Yeah, and while we're at it, let's get some Alliance love action going as well! Stormwind needs a queen (assuming Anduin decides to join the world of the living again at some point). Probably Taelia Fordragon? And Jaina could maybe rekindle her relationship with Kalec, especially now that they both got their "family " situation sorted out, Jaina becoming Lord Admiral and Kalec reassembling the blue Dragonflight. Also, Dagran Thaurissan II should come of age soon and probably needs a wife as King and High Thane of Ironforge and Shadowforge. We got Flynn and Shaw though which is cute 😊
I think this has the potential to be a great series! You should keep making videos on this such as leaders of enemy factions, minor races, as well as other minor factions, etc
Unfortunately for me it was the nail in the coffin for legion. It's not a popular opinion but the story was dull, the villain's 1 dimensional and demon hunters WOEFULLY inadequate. But I love Dranore so take it with a pinch of salt.
@@damiencrossley7497 I hate Draenor, I hate Legion and I hate BfA. All three were absolute ass while Legion was the strongest amongst them purely from the perspective of adding the concept of allied races and sparking improved customization for later. All of them had some good aspects and ideas but they got held back by their countless problems and Blizzard NEVER learned from their mistakes. BfA made me quit WoW a month into and i haven't played since besides Classic, BC and WotLK but even those can't save it anymore for me and I played on my account since 2008 without a break. Basically they did it so we had the good version of WoW to play because retail sucks so hard. I'm still interested and wish for the game to get good again but my hope is really low.
@@raydafuq3570 The game will never go back to the Classic you want. The world has become much more fast-paced, so the game had to evolve into that too. While I'm currently not playing WoW because I've done everything in Dragonflight until the next patch/raid, and I don't like the small patch we were given because I don't care about small patches, the game is in a decent spot right now.
Still think we should've gotten Mok'nathal and Taunka instead of Mag'Hars and Highmountains, they're more distinct and were both already part of the lore.
The Draenei left Argus on the Genedar before crashing in Draenor, the Exodar is what they later used to escape now outland before they crashed on Azeroth. gotta say they don't have a great flight record XD
The first one was piloted by a Naaru that began to go insane, the other Naaru had to try subdue him which led to a fight that damaged the ship, that's why they crashed into Draenor, the second one was sabotaged by Blood Elves before they launched, that's why the crashed on Azeroth
I do hope that either the second or third part of the War Within Trilogy will have the allied races consisting of Half Ogres and Taunka for the Horde and the High Elves and Wild Hammer Dwarves as allied races for the Alliance.
@@samflood5631 they join both factions. The Earthen will become the Horde Dwarves There are rumors that an additional race called the Haranir will also join Alliance and Horde, giving the Alliance a version of Trolls
if you plan on continuing this as a series, i think covering the reputation factions by expansion would be a neat idea. Assuming it isnt to tall a task that is
@@Skollshorties I imagine they mean the in-game reputations that we can get, divided per expansion. Things like the Wild Hunt, or Proudmoore Admiralty. Some could make sense, say the Night Fae's Wild Hunt and the Winter Queen. Others not so much as they are part of a bigger thing, eg Proudmoore Admiralty is just a part of the Kul'tirans.
Maybe you can talk about some of the class factions? like the uncrowned, guardians of tirisgarde and the earthan ring. there is a lot of members in there that are worth talking about.
@@Skollshorties yeah but i think while they don't have a leader the members are worth talking about anyway. Most of them are revered enough that they could be leader.
kinda sad i stopped playing BFA before actually unlocking any of these allied races. Really wanted to do the Mag'har orc story just to learn more about what they experienced during the 30-ish years they spent catching up to the timeline of Azeroth.
@@Skollshorties It's quite fun to watch. Perhaps a series where you could talk about each leader more in depth? Starting with the main ones, then allied races and last minor race leaders within each faction?
@@Feloarts Maybe. I don't know if I'll go that hard at it. But for now I'll cover the leaders of various groups and factions and go from there I think!
Who are the leaders of the various groups of dracthyr? I also like your races and speculation videos. If there was a 3rd faction, what do you think its races would be made up of? Maybe a better Axis of Awful? Lol.
The dracthyr are divided into armies known as weyrns, each led by a Scalecommander. Scalecommander Azurathel and the Obsidian Warders joined the Alliance. Scalecommander Cindrethresh and the Dark Talons joined the Horde. Scalecommander Viridia and the Healing Wings traveled to the Dragon Isles. Scalecommander Sarkareth and the Ebon Scales defected from the dracthyr army after feeling abandoned by Neltharion and renamed themselves the Sundered Flame. Scalecommander Emberthal's Adamant Vigil was wiped out by the Primalists, and she remained in the Forbidden Reach to search for answers.
I could do a video on the different Weryns maybe! And a Third Faction I imagine would've been the Night Elves or the Scourge/Forsaken if we had gotten them.
Killing Rastakhan is one of most pointless and stupidest attack alliance ever did. Worst part is, if you have played storyline, you can clearly that the main purpose of the attack is to kill Rastakhan, not to destroy the Zandalari Navi as said. Also Rastakhan was very chill peace loving king. Talanji is not.
Void Elf - Female leader Nightborn - Female leader Lightforge Draenei - Female leader Highmountain Tauren - Female leader Mag’har Orcs - Female leader Kul Tiran - Female leader Zandalar Troll - Female leader Seems like blizzard went full woke on the storytelling. If thats what people want to believe than I guess it’s time for female draft.
I really wish we had gotten the Outland Mag'har instead, we still could have had diverse looks from that due to members from all clans sent there for quarantine. I am really not looking forward to when we inevitably have to fight Yrel, that was such a bad story decision and it would have been better if we had just never seen her again.
The Earthen don't have a known racial leader yet for the Alliance and Horde. I'll likely do another video when we get more than one new allied race and learn who their leaders are.
@@Skollshorties I know that Olbarig is sent to Orgrimmar to speak with the horde council and I think Vokmar is in Ironforge to visit the dwarf leaders before going to stormwind. I hope we could see some racial faction leaders there
im bout to start a riot until blizzard releases ogres for the horde one head and 2 headed ogres, and for alliance off the top of ma head since i dont play alliance, maybe naga? or the jin which im pretty sure is those fish ppl, they have night elf animations so im sure they could make all new animations for them and have them join the alliance somehow, but idk if theirs another race actual alliance players want, i jus want ogres :(
Ogres for the Horde. Vrykul for the Alliance. Ogres were the progenitors to Orcs. While Vrykl were that for the humans. Works out perfectly - plus they're two large races!
Honestly she leads the One Race that I would Actually consider "Allied" rather than a Part Of the Faction... *Alliance:* Ei'shatar (Lightforged) consider Turalyon as one of their Leaders who is currently heading the Alliance.... - Moira the leader of the Dark Iron is also on the Council of Three Hammers, and they've been a Part of the Alliance since the Cataclysm. - Alleria the leader of the Ren'dorei (Void Elves) is married to Turalyon Leader of the Alliance. - Jaina has been an Alliance Leader for Far Longer than she's been the Leader of the Kul Tirans, as if she wouldn't have them folded back into the Alliance like during the Second War... Like she did when she was Head of Dalaran... - The Mechagnomes Literally declared the High Tinker of Gnomeregan their King........ *Horde:* Thalyssra leader of the Shal'dorei (Nightborne Elves) married one of the leaders of the Horde. - Same goes for Mayla of the Highmountain Tauren and her relationship with Baine. - Geya'rah has set up base in Orgrimmar the Literal Capitol of the Horde... - and the Vulpera are All over the Horde and did hard work to become a member of it. Talanji on the other hand has made it Clear from the Very Beginning that the Zandalari and the Horde are Separate, Equal, and Allied Entities.... Unlike the Other Leaders who swore Fealty to Sylvanas's Horde, Talanji Never Actually did >.>
Nah dude for real go check your left and right audio channels in whatever software you're using. Or center your mic or something. Great Content, can't watch it. Only muted with subtitles. It's like You're standing in front left of me and all videos after you sound like they are coming from front right. It's only your mic though, the rest of audio is ok
@@Skollshorties oh that’s right I get so confused by the lore lol I haven’t played in years so without videos like this I don’t know what the hell is going on 😂
Why are there so many female leaders? It’s fine for most races but some races like makghar orcs, the leader is someone who is strong, So a female character is odd. Others like Talanji are great.
@@Skollshorties Yes they can, but show it in game. strongest person should be bigger size wise, just odd when you have a skinny female character stronger than a huge buff male character. Also, did we need an alt-universe Thrall or his sibling? We still haven't had these guys talk about having the same parents or anything.
@@Vecleas yeah, just imagine it. Those wiegen being forced to join the horde or perish by the hands of some greater evil. As well as blood elves looking for help from the night elves. It won't happen but I would love for it to happen.
Explain to me how the Lightforged are allies to the Alliance. They should be way superior to the Alliance in every way, and could easily dominate all of Azeroth if they wanted to. They also have way more prestige than any faction on Azeroth, since all the struggles on Azeroth must look like child's play next to what they've done. At best, they would completely take over the Alliance, if not explicitly, at least implicitly.
Isnt it obvious? They are still Draenei and Velen is their official leader and literal Pope since the days on Argus. And The Horde wasn't quite nice to the normal Draenei. I understand the issue of power tho. Night elves were also originally powerful enough to eliminate both factions. Blizzard is just giving so much power to the Alliance and have to make the faction absolutely incopetent so The Horde can compete. It's just bad writing. I guess the Lightforged were weakened greatly when Xenedar was destroyed but Vindicaar, a ship made by the normal draenei got it's weapons and can shoot from orbit. Why such advantage wasnt used in BFA? Bad writing since Legion which just insults players who care about the race they play I am draenei main (both normal and LF) and I wonder why Stormwind isnt covered in draenei tech defensives which quite easily fends of Iron Horde bombardment in WoD.
@@Kbelikar Even if they still feel loyal to Velen and the other Draenei, there is no reason why they should feel on par with any of the other Alliance races, let alone submit in any way to them. They might even invite all the other Draenei back to form their own independent faction, most likely friendly to the Alliance. But even if they decided to integrate into the Alliance, maybe out of gratitude for how they treated the earlier arrivals, in fact they would dominate just about every aspect of the Alliance. In what sense are they really dependent on the other races? They can easily provide for themselves, they are militarily absurdly more powerful, and if everything still goes to shit, they could just fly to another planet. And imagine the Alliance planning some military campaign. Sure, there may be some High King who is supposed to be in charge, but which faction would really decide what to do? Probably the one that could win the war single-handed.
@@Zersetzor You are not wrong, same dilema with Night Elves, at least before the bfa crap. And well, Turalyon is memebr of The Army of the Light and kinda leads the Alliance in Anduin's absence. So they got the leadership for now.
@@Zersetzor Simple. The Draenei aren't as powerful as you think they are. They just became so powerful after the Lightforged arrived because their numbers, energy sources and technology basically boosted upwards again. There were very few Draenei survivors on Azeroth as they crashed. The Exodar is just a giant crash site that poisons the environment with literal radiation. They simply didn't have the means to do anything and could've been just wiped out by the people on this planet but were accepted and supported by the Alliance. They owe them big time and I think it's more likely to have a civil war between LF and regular Draenei over betraying the Alliance than them banding together and taking over the planet. It's also against the nature of the Draenei but here is where the Light comes into play when we look a Yrel. It's stupid to have helped that bitch all through out WoD only to see her become Space Hitler for no fucking reason. The Orcs would've ripped them a new one like they did when they were controlled by the Legion but the Iron Horde was weakened because of us. Looks like the Light just swooped in and took another planet under it's control when it had the chance. What sucks the most is that they wasted the huge opportunity to do more with Grommash and the other leaders / clans or to flesh out their lore more after WoD ended. In WoD and some addons before the Alliance basically got all their WC2 heroes back while the Horde basically got forced to kill every single one of them instead of having them change sides or interact with them in a non hostile way. Ner'Zhul got fucking killed in a 5 man and he is the literal Lich King. But Alleria and Turalyon and Falstad and so on and so forth is no problem at all to get all of them back. Favouritism from Blizzard goes both ways. Like Alliance gets Worgen and multiple kinds of Elves with the long requested High Elves (even with mad explanations like Alleria suddenly becoming a Void thingy) but the Horde still has no option for a simple Forest Troll? Although the Revantusk Tribe is allied with the Horde since Vanilla? Also the Shatterspear joined the Horde as well in Cataclysm if I'm not mistaken. So we literally have two Forest Troll Tribes in the Horde and it's literally just adding a green skin color. But most people who haven't played Classic don't even know that those two Tribes exist. Blizzard also seems to have forgotten about them because none of those Trolls ever shows up anywhere else besides Revantusk Village in the Hinterlands. Funny thing is Dwarves can choose Wildhammer Tattoos which are the exact counterpart to Forest Trolls but this is somehow perfectly valid. But they can't add a green skin option for Trolls? Or fix their back like Orcs or give you an option to make them a bit more bulky like the actual Ice and Forest Trolls you'll find in the world.
You know normally I would agree and point to toxic feminism, but I actually think it’s not that simple. Thalyssra and Alleria are elves- night elves (nightborne) were always matriarchal and void elves were invented following Alleria in Legion. Moira, Talanji, Mayla, and even Jaina all obtained their roles in the same way- the death of a strong male figure in their life- father for most and husband for Moira. A king dying and a young princess being forced to rule is a classic storytelling device regardless of feminism. Geya’rah and Fareeha are a bit shaky in terms of truly leading, as both races are culturally extremely similar to their main counterparts. Turalyon and Velen do more leading of the Lightforged Draenei than Fareeha, and the various Mag’har clans share a lot with their MU counterparts. Plus Geya’rah is literally the female version of Thrall/Go’el, so only exists to contrast with the former warchief as of now. I’d also remind you of the misc. races that are/will/could be future leaders, most of which are male. Chen and Cho seem to favor the Horde, while Taran Zhu prefers the Alliance. Neri Sharpfin leads the Unshackled while Rexxar’s dad rules the Mok’nathal. Due to their character models, I almost guarantee that official hozen, jinyu, and ankoan leaders will all be male. The Ogres aren’t fully incorporated but all their leaders have been male again due to models. So it’s not all females.
Don't know, don't care. I don't see a problem with it storywise and I also won't humour anyone going on a feminist rant either. Not that you are but theres always some idiots in the comments who go off on that if the characters aren't 90% male because there whiners.
Not the lightforged Draenei, though they do certainly respect him. Turalyon is the de facto leader of Stormwind until such time as Anduin Wrynn returns.
I thought Turalyon led the Lightforged first too. But upon further research he's only the Leader of the Army of the Light - not the Draenei themselves.
Am I the only one who is just waiting for Blizz to do with Baine and Mayla what they did to Lor'themar and Thalyssra? Have them get married?
I ship it.
No
@@renaultellis6188 Ye
Yeah, and while we're at it, let's get some Alliance love action going as well! Stormwind needs a queen (assuming Anduin decides to join the world of the living again at some point). Probably Taelia Fordragon? And Jaina could maybe rekindle her relationship with Kalec, especially now that they both got their "family " situation sorted out, Jaina becoming Lord Admiral and Kalec reassembling the blue Dragonflight.
Also, Dagran Thaurissan II should come of age soon and probably needs a wife as King and High Thane of Ironforge and Shadowforge.
We got Flynn and Shaw though which is cute 😊
@@Skollshorties I think he meant he's not the only one
I think this has the potential to be a great series! You should keep making videos on this such as leaders of enemy factions, minor races, as well as other minor factions, etc
That seems to be the plan now!
Great man keep it up! Love the vids
@@Bigbarbin Will do!
Watching this made me realize how awesome Legion was and made me sad that I wasn't able to play it more when it was live
For all its faults Legion was pretty dang good.
Unfortunately for me it was the nail in the coffin for legion. It's not a popular opinion but the story was dull, the villain's 1 dimensional and demon hunters WOEFULLY inadequate. But I love Dranore so take it with a pinch of salt.
@@damiencrossley7497 I hate Draenor, I hate Legion and I hate BfA. All three were absolute ass while Legion was the strongest amongst them purely from the perspective of adding the concept of allied races and sparking improved customization for later. All of them had some good aspects and ideas but they got held back by their countless problems and Blizzard NEVER learned from their mistakes. BfA made me quit WoW a month into and i haven't played since besides Classic, BC and WotLK but even those can't save it anymore for me and I played on my account since 2008 without a break. Basically they did it so we had the good version of WoW to play because retail sucks so hard. I'm still interested and wish for the game to get good again but my hope is really low.
@@raydafuq3570 The game will never go back to the Classic you want. The world has become much more fast-paced, so the game had to evolve into that too. While I'm currently not playing WoW because I've done everything in Dragonflight until the next patch/raid, and I don't like the small patch we were given because I don't care about small patches, the game is in a decent spot right now.
@@rhyslynch8285 that may be. Although i'll keep watch if it's really worth my money before I reactivate my subscription.
Still think we should've gotten Mok'nathal and Taunka instead of Mag'Hars and Highmountains, they're more distinct and were both already part of the lore.
100%
I really hope more allied/neutral races are introduced, loved the video!
I'm here for Dagrans acsenion one day for sure
Not a single allied race should be made before Horde gets Ogres. 20 years overdue.
@@heathmcrigsby
Stone Dwarves that worship machines are the newest..still no Ogres :
The Draenei left Argus on the Genedar before crashing in Draenor, the Exodar is what they later used to escape now outland before they crashed on Azeroth. gotta say they don't have a great flight record XD
Vindicaar was a succes tho. It haven't crushed while being bombarded by Legion :P
@@Kbelikar probably because the Naaru worked as some navigation computer probably lol.
@@raydafuq3570 The old ships had Naaru as powersource. It's why the 1st one crushed as they run out of their power. Vindicaar had no power onboard.
The first one was piloted by a Naaru that began to go insane, the other Naaru had to try subdue him which led to a fight that damaged the ship, that's why they crashed into Draenor, the second one was sabotaged by Blood Elves before they launched, that's why the crashed on Azeroth
Brought the leaders we adore!
Always.
I do hope that either the second or third part of the War Within Trilogy will have the allied races consisting of Half Ogres and Taunka for the Horde and the High Elves and Wild Hammer Dwarves as allied races for the Alliance.
A fellow Mok'Nathal enjoyer? You are welcome here.
Wildhammer and High Elves are customization options already
well..we got new Dwarves..in..a way
@ Why is that whenever there’s a new Dwarven Race, they tend to join the Alliance? Why can’t they join the horde to change things up a bit?
@@samflood5631 they join both factions.
The Earthen will become the Horde Dwarves
There are rumors that an additional race called the Haranir will also join Alliance and Horde, giving the Alliance a version of Trolls
if you plan on continuing this as a series, i think covering the reputation factions by expansion would be a neat idea. Assuming it isnt to tall a task that is
I'm not sure what that is or who they are - if you could name an example for that I could give it a shot maybe someday.
@@Skollshorties I imagine they mean the in-game reputations that we can get, divided per expansion. Things like the Wild Hunt, or Proudmoore Admiralty.
Some could make sense, say the Night Fae's Wild Hunt and the Winter Queen. Others not so much as they are part of a bigger thing, eg Proudmoore Admiralty is just a part of the Kul'tirans.
Maybe you can talk about some of the class factions? like the uncrowned, guardians of tirisgarde and the earthan ring. there is a lot of members in there that are worth talking about.
Possibly! The problem with that is some of them are currently leaderless or they were strictly led by the player.
@@Skollshorties yeah but i think while they don't have a leader the members are worth talking about anyway. Most of them are revered enough that they could be leader.
kinda sad i stopped playing BFA before actually unlocking any of these allied races. Really wanted to do the Mag'har orc story just to learn more about what they experienced during the 30-ish years they spent catching up to the timeline of Azeroth.
Loved the video
I have been waiting! Very nice video
I was just thinking how I wish you did this while watching the last video... subbed
Will we see a video done on the other races in the alliance and horde? Such as the high elves, hozen, stromgarde, and so on?
That's probably going to be my third video! I like this trend I have of talking on leaders of [x] so far!
@@Skollshorties It's quite fun to watch. Perhaps a series where you could talk about each leader more in depth? Starting with the main ones, then allied races and last minor race leaders within each faction?
@@Feloarts Maybe. I don't know if I'll go that hard at it. But for now I'll cover the leaders of various groups and factions and go from there I think!
@@Skollshorties Either way, no matter how you'll go at it and what the future plans are i'll still watch the videos! You make quality content.
Technically they're not really "in" the alliance/horde but more somewhat allies of those factions. Would love to see that though.
Great video dude 😄
Thanks!
I really like the video.
My question to you is, will you do a video for all current class leaders?
More than likely!
Great video! Even as a player from and since before Allied Races, I learned/recollected a lot!
Who are the leaders of the various groups of dracthyr?
I also like your races and speculation videos. If there was a 3rd faction, what do you think its races would be made up of? Maybe a better Axis of Awful? Lol.
The dracthyr are divided into armies known as weyrns, each led by a Scalecommander.
Scalecommander Azurathel and the Obsidian Warders joined the Alliance.
Scalecommander Cindrethresh and the Dark Talons joined the Horde.
Scalecommander Viridia and the Healing Wings traveled to the Dragon Isles.
Scalecommander Sarkareth and the Ebon Scales defected from the dracthyr army after feeling abandoned by Neltharion and renamed themselves the Sundered Flame.
Scalecommander Emberthal's Adamant Vigil was wiped out by the Primalists, and she remained in the Forbidden Reach to search for answers.
I could do a video on the different Weryns maybe! And a Third Faction I imagine would've been the Night Elves or the Scourge/Forsaken if we had gotten them.
Only the Dark Talons and the Obsidian Warders.
Killing Rastakhan is one of most pointless and stupidest attack alliance ever did.
Worst part is, if you have played storyline, you can clearly that the main purpose of the attack is to kill Rastakhan, not to destroy the Zandalari Navi as said.
Also Rastakhan was very chill peace loving king. Talanji is not.
Void Elf - Female leader
Nightborn - Female leader
Lightforge Draenei - Female leader
Highmountain Tauren - Female leader
Mag’har Orcs - Female leader
Kul Tiran - Female leader
Zandalar Troll - Female leader
Seems like blizzard went full woke on the storytelling. If thats what people want to believe than I guess it’s time for female draft.
@@mikaeusbznd744 You sound sad mate.
@@Skollshorties But am I wrong?
Great video, thanks for making it! I would love to see more lore videos, maybe zone lore or city lore.
Yay, I was waiting on this one :)
You could do a video on prominent lore character’s for each class :)
Mag'har orcs are my favorite!
It would be cool if you did a video going over the history/lore of each races homeland/starting zone. Great video btw
I really wish we had gotten the Outland Mag'har instead, we still could have had diverse looks from that due to members from all clans sent there for quarantine.
I am really not looking forward to when we inevitably have to fight Yrel, that was such a bad story decision and it would have been better if we had just never seen her again.
Can you do the best love stories in wow. From sylvanas and nathanos to tyrande and malfurion
Sub'd!, new wow creater in town:)
Haha! Been here for a while but I'll take it still!
unless theres a questline i'm missing i'm fairly certain Alleria is just helping them and Umbric is still the leader
Alleria Windrunner is the leader of the Void Elves. Umbric is one of the leaders but he serves and learns from Alleria directly.
Come on, man, we know who is the real leader and it's not Umbric.
Do you gonna add the Earthen into the video?
The Earthen don't have a known racial leader yet for the Alliance and Horde. I'll likely do another video when we get more than one new allied race and learn who their leaders are.
@@Skollshorties I know that Olbarig is sent to Orgrimmar to speak with the horde council and I think Vokmar is in Ironforge to visit the dwarf leaders before going to stormwind.
I hope we could see some racial faction leaders there
let's begin, shall wee, nice narc ref.
The promised video :)
Am I the only one who wants the Starks as an allied race? those snake are my dream :,)
im bout to start a riot until blizzard releases ogres for the horde one head and 2 headed ogres, and for alliance off the top of ma head since i dont play alliance, maybe naga? or the jin which im pretty sure is those fish ppl, they have night elf animations so im sure they could make all new animations for them and have them join the alliance somehow, but idk if theirs another race actual alliance players want, i jus want ogres :(
Ogres for the Horde.
Vrykul for the Alliance.
Ogres were the progenitors to Orcs. While Vrykl were that for the humans. Works out perfectly - plus they're two large races!
I like the Mag,har orcs
Talanji
Honestly she leads the One Race that I would Actually consider "Allied" rather than a Part Of the Faction...
*Alliance:* Ei'shatar (Lightforged) consider Turalyon as one of their Leaders who is currently heading the Alliance....
- Moira the leader of the Dark Iron is also on the Council of Three Hammers, and they've been a Part of the Alliance since the Cataclysm.
- Alleria the leader of the Ren'dorei (Void Elves) is married to Turalyon Leader of the Alliance.
- Jaina has been an Alliance Leader for Far Longer than she's been the Leader of the Kul Tirans, as if she wouldn't have them folded back into the Alliance like during the Second War... Like she did when she was Head of Dalaran...
- The Mechagnomes Literally declared the High Tinker of Gnomeregan their King........
*Horde:* Thalyssra leader of the Shal'dorei (Nightborne Elves) married one of the leaders of the Horde.
- Same goes for Mayla of the Highmountain Tauren and her relationship with Baine.
- Geya'rah has set up base in Orgrimmar the Literal Capitol of the Horde...
- and the Vulpera are All over the Horde and did hard work to become a member of it.
Talanji on the other hand has made it Clear from the Very Beginning that the Zandalari and the Horde are Separate, Equal, and Allied Entities.... Unlike the Other Leaders who swore Fealty to Sylvanas's Horde, Talanji Never Actually did >.>
@@durk5331 since Vol’Jins death we havent seen many strong troll leaders.. Rokhan maybe? Hope we’ll see his spirit again soon
@@Ragnarok6664 Rokhan is currently the de facto leader of the Darkspear, so yes Rokhan >.>
@@durk5331 good 🙏🏻
The dracthyr have now become an allied race.
The Dracthyr aren't an Allied Race. They're a base race just like the Pandaren.
@@Skollshorties Then why aren’t they in the other video?
@@cameronmcewen9666 They are at the very end of the video
Nah dude for real go check your left and right audio channels in whatever software you're using. Or center your mic or something. Great Content, can't watch it. Only muted with subtitles. It's like You're standing in front left of me and all videos after you sound like they are coming from front right. It's only your mic though, the rest of audio is ok
I really can't hear the problem when I do the editing and recording. I'll look again for my next videos but I wasn't able to see or hear that at all.
do minor factions and races that are part the horde and alliance and their leaders
It's on my to-do list!
@@Skollshorties it can be part of the why havent they made ogres an allied race to the horde yet XD and maybe Furbog for alliance or high elves.
Oh shit was High Elves in the other video
High Elves unfortunately aren't playable unless you count Void Elves or Blood Elves.
@@Skollshorties oh that’s right I get so confused by the lore lol I haven’t played in years so without videos like this I don’t know what the hell is going on 😂
yoo he made it
Mag'har should really have Au Grom his body was not shown i hope Yriel just kinda has him prisoner trying to break him and we can get him out
That does seem to be the trend with Grommash of getting captured and taunted by his enemies.
@@Skollshorties also would give us a cool orc char again.... kinda lost most of them
algorithm bless you
Technically Dracthyr ar also Allied Race
Ogre race when Blizz
The Vulpera really need more of a story.
Yeah, of any currently playable race, they have the least amount of established lore. Hopefully they get more fleshed out eventually.
Most allied races have more lore then the gnomes :(
Can’t believe we can never be ogres
Not Therazane, Thaurissan. Therazane is the elemental lord of earth.
Omg all girl bosses 😅 of course
Why are there so many female leaders? It’s fine for most races but some races like makghar orcs, the leader is someone who is strong, So a female character is odd.
Others like Talanji are great.
Female Orcs and characters can be strong too. Grommash Hellscream was her personal trainer and advisor too.
@@Skollshorties Yes they can, but show it in game. strongest person should be bigger size wise, just odd when you have a skinny female character stronger than a huge buff male character.
Also, did we need an alt-universe Thrall or his sibling?
We still haven't had these guys talk about having the same parents or anything.
8:03 *dead game*
Metzen disagrees. Fool.
@@Skollshorties Metzen is correct
Please give us an allied Race that is a cross for both sides, Like blood elves for allience and worgen for horde.
Worgen for the horde ? Side by side with the forsaken ? 😬😬😬
@@Vecleas yeah, just imagine it. Those wiegen being forced to join the horde or perish by the hands of some greater evil.
As well as blood elves looking for help from the night elves.
It won't happen but I would love for it to happen.
Lorthemar and Thalyssra are married?
Indeed! Got married in the new short story!:
worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23873866/warcraft-short-story-the-vow-eternal
thats a LOT of female leaders, i love it
Explain to me how the Lightforged are allies to the Alliance.
They should be way superior to the Alliance in every way, and could easily dominate all of Azeroth if they wanted to. They also have way more prestige than any faction on Azeroth, since all the struggles on Azeroth must look like child's play next to what they've done.
At best, they would completely take over the Alliance, if not explicitly, at least implicitly.
Isnt it obvious? They are still Draenei and Velen is their official leader and literal Pope since the days on Argus. And The Horde wasn't quite nice to the normal Draenei. I understand the issue of power tho. Night elves were also originally powerful enough to eliminate both factions. Blizzard is just giving so much power to the Alliance and have to make the faction absolutely incopetent so The Horde can compete. It's just bad writing. I guess the Lightforged were weakened greatly when Xenedar was destroyed but Vindicaar, a ship made by the normal draenei got it's weapons and can shoot from orbit. Why such advantage wasnt used in BFA? Bad writing since Legion which just insults players who care about the race they play I am draenei main (both normal and LF) and I wonder why Stormwind isnt covered in draenei tech defensives which quite easily fends of Iron Horde bombardment in WoD.
@@Kbelikar Even if they still feel loyal to Velen and the other Draenei, there is no reason why they should feel on par with any of the other Alliance races, let alone submit in any way to them.
They might even invite all the other Draenei back to form their own independent faction, most likely friendly to the Alliance.
But even if they decided to integrate into the Alliance, maybe out of gratitude for how they treated the earlier arrivals, in fact they would dominate just about every aspect of the Alliance. In what sense are they really dependent on the other races? They can easily provide for themselves, they are militarily absurdly more powerful, and if everything still goes to shit, they could just fly to another planet.
And imagine the Alliance planning some military campaign. Sure, there may be some High King who is supposed to be in charge, but which faction would really decide what to do? Probably the one that could win the war single-handed.
@@Zersetzor You are not wrong, same dilema with Night Elves, at least before the bfa crap. And well, Turalyon is memebr of The Army of the Light and kinda leads the Alliance in Anduin's absence. So they got the leadership for now.
@@Kbelikar I guess we'll have to see what happens when Anduin comes back into the picture.
@@Zersetzor Simple. The Draenei aren't as powerful as you think they are. They just became so powerful after the Lightforged arrived because their numbers, energy sources and technology basically boosted upwards again. There were very few Draenei survivors on Azeroth as they crashed. The Exodar is just a giant crash site that poisons the environment with literal radiation.
They simply didn't have the means to do anything and could've been just wiped out by the people on this planet but were accepted and supported by the Alliance. They owe them big time and I think it's more likely to have a civil war between LF and regular Draenei over betraying the Alliance than them banding together and taking over the planet. It's also against the nature of the Draenei but here is where the Light comes into play when we look a Yrel.
It's stupid to have helped that bitch all through out WoD only to see her become Space Hitler for no fucking reason. The Orcs would've ripped them a new one like they did when they were controlled by the Legion but the Iron Horde was weakened because of us. Looks like the Light just swooped in and took another planet under it's control when it had the chance.
What sucks the most is that they wasted the huge opportunity to do more with Grommash and the other leaders / clans or to flesh out their lore more after WoD ended. In WoD and some addons before the Alliance basically got all their WC2 heroes back while the Horde basically got forced to kill every single one of them instead of having them change sides or interact with them in a non hostile way. Ner'Zhul got fucking killed in a 5 man and he is the literal Lich King. But Alleria and Turalyon and Falstad and so on and so forth is no problem at all to get all of them back.
Favouritism from Blizzard goes both ways. Like Alliance gets Worgen and multiple kinds of Elves with the long requested High Elves (even with mad explanations like Alleria suddenly becoming a Void thingy) but the Horde still has no option for a simple Forest Troll? Although the Revantusk Tribe is allied with the Horde since Vanilla? Also the Shatterspear joined the Horde as well in Cataclysm if I'm not mistaken. So we literally have two Forest Troll Tribes in the Horde and it's literally just adding a green skin color. But most people who haven't played Classic don't even know that those two Tribes exist. Blizzard also seems to have forgotten about them because none of those Trolls ever shows up anywhere else besides Revantusk Village in the Hinterlands.
Funny thing is Dwarves can choose Wildhammer Tattoos which are the exact counterpart to Forest Trolls but this is somehow perfectly valid. But they can't add a green skin option for Trolls? Or fix their back like Orcs or give you an option to make them a bit more bulky like the actual Ice and Forest Trolls you'll find in the world.
Pretty sure mage is for both sexes
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Some of the pronunciations of these names makes me cringe
I'm cringing right now. Just not at the same thing apparently.
@@Skollshorties My main issue is "thalryssra"
Only 2 of them are men.
Feminism? or a coincidence?
Regardless, I like them all, except Jaina.
Yeah that's what I was thinking, almost no men
You know normally I would agree and point to toxic feminism, but I actually think it’s not that simple.
Thalyssra and Alleria are elves- night elves (nightborne) were always matriarchal and void elves were invented following Alleria in Legion.
Moira, Talanji, Mayla, and even Jaina all obtained their roles in the same way- the death of a strong male figure in their life- father for most and husband for Moira. A king dying and a young princess being forced to rule is a classic storytelling device regardless of feminism.
Geya’rah and Fareeha are a bit shaky in terms of truly leading, as both races are culturally extremely similar to their main counterparts. Turalyon and Velen do more leading of the Lightforged Draenei than Fareeha, and the various Mag’har clans share a lot with their MU counterparts. Plus Geya’rah is literally the female version of Thrall/Go’el, so only exists to contrast with the former warchief as of now.
I’d also remind you of the misc. races that are/will/could be future leaders, most of which are male. Chen and Cho seem to favor the Horde, while Taran Zhu prefers the Alliance. Neri Sharpfin leads the Unshackled while Rexxar’s dad rules the Mok’nathal. Due to their character models, I almost guarantee that official hozen, jinyu, and ankoan leaders will all be male. The Ogres aren’t fully incorporated but all their leaders have been male again due to models. So it’s not all females.
A lot of the Leaders in the Horde and Alliance were men currently. So I think this just evens things out a lot.
Don't know, don't care. I don't see a problem with it storywise and I also won't humour anyone going on a feminist rant either. Not that you are but theres always some idiots in the comments who go off on that if the characters aren't 90% male because there whiners.
@@patriot2741 Does that trigger you lol
I don't care if I get hate the Vulpera were a mistake! GIVE ME WATER GOBLINS!
World of StrongFemaleCraft 🤡🤡🤡
Tyrelon leads the lightforged.
Not the lightforged Draenei, though they do certainly respect him. Turalyon is the de facto leader of Stormwind until such time as Anduin Wrynn returns.
I thought Turalyon led the Lightforged first too. But upon further research he's only the Leader of the Army of the Light - not the Draenei themselves.