I think you just summed it up. I am conflicted in my feelings about these young men. They can't say they were not warned. Would we rather that people can just say "I'm sorry" and be allowed to go on their merry way? The punishment may not fit the crime but it is what it is, so to speak.
And these two guys decided to smuggle drugs there. Pretty bad decisionmaking. The paintings are really wonderful! A gifted painter. Pretty cool that the prison allows art inside.
IKR... absolutely nonsensical. At least have some standards for sentencing. Those bombers may have gotten away from life sentences and the death penalty for giving certain information or making a plea deal etc.. Hard to say because I didn't follow the legal side of things when it happened.
Double standards, I don't agree with what they did!! But no one has the right to take another person's life only god the father has that weight, god breathed life into us only he can take that away . R.I.P. boys
Precisely the reason Aussies should stop travelling to Bali that gives the corrupt Indonesian govt thousands in tourism revenue all while they continue to ask for handouts in aid to help their most vulnerable when they care more about freeing convicted terrorists
"When in Rome, do as the Romans"...Just respect the laws of another country and you'll be fine. Just as the respect you would expect from a visitor visiting your house 🙏
@@paulmitchell6485 doesn't change the fact that you should respect the law in other country or are you implying that if someone break a law in their country, you have the right to do the same in their country?
Risk/reward You do realise the real bosses of all the proceeds of drug sales, are the last people to be affected by law enforcement. They use people like this as their low level people to take all the risk. Same goes for biker gangs... They are the low level expendable cannon fodder for the people who really run the game. It's a shame these people went through with this, but a lot of them were desperate, and desperate people do desperate things.
@@DoubtingThomas333 I do realise that others are guilty, and probably more guilty than these two. That doesn't change the fact that they admit their guilt, and received the punishment that they knew was likely.
Malaysia has equally harsh penalties for drug trafficking that include death by hanging. Foreigners travelling by air to Malaysia will get a verbal reminder via anouncement on board certain airlines warning about the risks involved for drug smugglers before the plane touches down. Neighbouring Singapore imposes the death sentence for smuggling in a certain amount of drugs too. First time visitors to South East Asia - you have been warned.
You forgot an unwritten caveat, that those who can afford large bribes for corrupt government officials in this criminal system can alter their prospects and lessen their sentences, it's hypocrisy and greed by any other name.
@@WTG20233malaysia abolished mandatory death penalty. They still can sentence someone with it. And execution in Indonesia took very long time and usually done at once. Death sentence still given.
I am empathetic towards them and it's a shame they made such a bad decision. As someone who's been living in Vietnam for a decade, I see foreigners getting caught trying to smuggle class A drugs through the country every year, often getting the death penalty or life in prison for less than 10k USD. It's mind-boggling that many don't research the drug laws of the country they travel to in advance, often with extreme consequences.
@@darrenporter1850 I'm sure some do. There's an interesting video where some foreigners serving life in prison are interviewed for a Vietnamese TV channel. Some take responsibility for their actions and accept their future while others struggle. Not the future I'd want for myself but better than death by a shooting squad. What some smugglers fail to realize is that even if you just have a stopover in Southeast Asia, your bags get scanned just the same and the penalty isn't any different either.
@@VNExperience All westerners know. Lots are young, get into a lifestyle of fun, party, drugs, want easy money, and think about 6 months more of party, rather than the consequences. It would be hard to accept. Have you seen 'locked up abroad' (banged up abroad), some episodes can be found online.
If you're facing death by firing squad, would you put in some effort to have the sentence changed? They were no doubt sorry because they got caught. There are warning EVERYWHERE in Bali, Indonesia and Thailand about death penalties for drug trafficking.
In his letter, he never mentions the harm he brought to the victims of drugs that he supplied and the heartbreak of the families that lost loved ones .
What harm? He never succeeded in smuggling the 8kg of heroin from Indonesia to Austrealia. He was arrested at Bali airport. Who were the supposed victims he supposedly harmed and ruined the lives of?
The law in Indonesia says " Death penalty for drug smuggling"........ Perhaps show some respect to the law of the country that you visit. They were warned. No sympathy.
Yeah...I'm sure you take the "law book" of every country you travel to and check if they have the death penalty box checked ... Have some respect for them...they paid their dues...
@@mihaicostescu i'm pretty sure that you don't need the "law book" to know that EVERY COUNTRY has strict drug policies even the country that known for its drug lords... they knew it, everybody knew it.. even i know it and as much as i feel sympathy.. not because of their punishment but for bad choices they made before they got caught.. drug is not like prohibited food or fruit that can be easily disposed in the trash
The AFP gave them the death sentence, not the Indonesians. the AFP knew about the drug smuggling operation and could have intercepted them on return in Australia. Instead it was chosen to inform the Indonesian authorities when they knew the death penalty was on the table.
Yep imagine being the families of these people who,s taxes fund the AFP, they knew they were giving them a death sentence. The AFP seem to be answerable to know one.
What wrong with people they were drug dealers dealing Herion lots of people die from Herion it wasn't their first time dealing drugs nobody get caught first time
And some of us don't even need to do that. My boyfriend and I were told by a German traveller in Malaysia some years ago that travellers were planting drugs on other travellers unknown to them, to get the drugs through Customs - they'd arrange for someone on the other side to then 'retrieve' what they'd planted.
What you don't understand is that if they were never caught they would have continued ruining peoples lives for their own gain. Yeah because they were caught they reformed. But they cannot take back the damage already done. Simply put, the world has seen this happen and hopefully it deters others from doing the same.
Indonesia gave this opportunity thousands of times by announcing to all countries that Indonesia imposed the death penalty for narcotics dealers. that they became aware because they had been arrested and were facing the death penalty. If you follow your mindset, there is no need for prisons in this world, because everyone will wake up after being arrested.
@@Unfluencer And they also put a very big singages on the walls of Denpasar Airport as a final warning, from the terminal area all the way to immigration checkpoints.
I’m sorry but if you are set on the execution then just do it! Don’t reform them time and money and murdering these two men as different people! Absolutely wrong and in humane period.
@@flowerpower8722 you forget these men didnt force them to take those drugs. They also had a choice not to take those drugs! Stop shifting the blame only on the sellers but the smokers should also be held accountable.
Unfortunately we also need to take into consideration the 1000s of lives affected by their actions. How many people have overdosed by heroin smuggled into Indonesia by people just like the two of them? How many people have become addicted and lost their future and families because of drugs. Indonesia and Thailand are two countries that come to mind immediately when one thinks of death penally for drug smuggling, so why risk it? I absolutely believe they they have been reformed and could have been such positive example should the Indonesian government had chosen to spare them, but did they not only become reformed and also remorseful only after they were caught?
From my point of view, addicts have a responsibility, they shouldn’t be taking advantage of desperate people and creating a demand. Ppl with addiction should seek help, not blame the seller. No one blames liquor stores for selling to alcoholics, after all. But people blame those who are manipulated and taken advantage of for people choosing to take drugs and ruin their own lives. Of course, that’s just my own emotional response. The reality is that while people with addiction are responsible for their own behaviour, so are people who sell drugs, and both exist in a sick system that needs to be completely reformed. My emotions shouldn’t be taken into account here, but rather, we should all try to create a better system.
@@misskate3815 that logic can be applied to any criminal. I'm glad you're aware of your emotional bias because if we will follow your logic and apply it across the board, it will mean an absolute anarchy
No it wouldn't. Indonesia has a massive drug addiction problem - all the south asian countries do. Poor villagers with serious addictions sell their young daughters into prostitution to pay for their drug habits. There are more drugs inside the prisons and there there are outside and the guards sell them to prisoners. The entire system is corrupt, from the top to the bottom. Corrupt and hypocritical.
Crack down on heroin use and you'll get fentanyl,as in america.smoking heroin is not deadly.if a user shoots up and eventually dies that is their fault not the dealers/importers
The western world has so many rules /regulations a /laws and licence that if you live in poverty . There is literally no other way of getting out of it.. without smuggling drugs . All these things need to change to allow people to make an honest living.
They didnt give drugs for free. They didnt force people to buy drugs. People know drug is bad and have choice whether to consume it or not, so I really sorry for what these two men had to receive.
@@scorpy1224 you make alot more money and can get out of poverty smuggling drugs . Than working at slave labour pay at burget king etc . The west needs to open ecconomies up .. like China did . So people dont have to smuggle drugs
as if this 8 kg of heroin being taken off the market resulted , somehow, in some addicts not being addicts and overdose deaths not being overdose deaths. stg people cant think straight
What about the pharmacy's handing out drugs everyday people choose to take them as they know the risks people have been trying to find an escape for their problems since the beginning of time
Man I hope this become an education stuff for the next generation. I have been following this story when I first heard about Andrew Chan and 5 years later I still wanna know more story about him. And I gotta say they both have really inspired a lot of life changing not just for the inmate but also a role model.
They did handle the punishment. They were locked up in prison for 10 years. Instead of sitting around doing nothing all day, they HELPED other prisoners by leading Bible studies with them and helping them get to know Jesus as well as teaching them all sorts of classes like art, English, computer, and cooking. If that's not reformed, what is? How many criminals you know have "reformed" the way these two men had?
Having known at least 8 people from school or work who died from heroin overdoses. Having known even more who turned to crime or prostitution to support their drug addictions…I have absolutely no sympathy for drug dealers or smugglers who get the Death Penalty for the misery that they created for innumerable other people.
I remember this case up until the last days. Including the other 7 inmates. Really wanted them two to survive. Yes they made huge huge mistakes, but they did reform. That's the whole point of how prison should work. It's just that Indonesia have their laws, they are not gonna change it for two people.
Andrew Chan has beautiful handwriting and articulate. He would have been an asset in discouraging the Australian youth from taking drugs, but would they ever take his advise and be accountable for their own actions without blame on external factors. "What you do today is what you are tomorrow" - Andrew Chan, that's Kamma 101. Consider yourself lucky to be in this country and not in some 3rd world country with zero social benefits; learn to be content.
0 social benefit 🤣 Competitive society will grill your from being bad enough and it is your fault for being poor. At least they can dispose of their criminal.
@@graeme1744you think drug mules get rich smuggling drugs for traffickers? They probably weren't getting paid more than USD$5K-10k/trip... Even in impoverished global south countries with that amount you're far from wealthy, say you make ten successful trips at $8k. That's eighty grand, a pittance for the enormous risks taken.
People are always sorry and so forth after being caught. They knew the penalties. What message does it send out to future youngsters by letting them go free? The wrong message! Reform is like hindsight - too late, you should have made the commitment earlier!
I don't think anybody is saying they should not be punished and simply freed. Just that the death penalty is way too harsh 20 years is even harsh. 10 years seems appropriate
@@emilegriffith1473 Its not their first rodeo, no wonder AFP or even Indonesian police have no sympathy towards them unlike the Schapelle Corby who manages to serve only few years before banned permanently from Bali after her infamous suitcase filled with marijuana.
My heart breaks for these boys and their family. They were on a path to healing, giving back, and building a brighter future. I hope they are resting in sweet peace ❤️
Drugs smugglers and traffickers only turned around their lives because they got caught… What about the parents that lost their children because of the drugs that being pushed by these drugs traffickers. Every Australian living in Australia have all the opportunities to make a good living, these Bali 9 are all adults, they make their own choices and they have to live by it.
Drugs can be dangerous no doubt. However the most dangerous drug in the world is Alcohol. It kills more people than every other drug combined. Should we blame major Alcohol dealers like Woolworths and Coles?
My thoughts exactly. I don't even have remorse to these people. If they get the freedom after prison time, they will be back and their old ways and will be more cunning.
Damned if You do Damned if You don't once They got done for Drug Trafficking. If They did show the level of remorse and tried to make amends the way People said They should like reaching out to victims eg no one would ever believe it is genuine. On the other hand if They didn't reach out to People affected by Drug Trafficking They are called heartless monsters. It is sad for Everybody involved no one can win :'( .
EXACTLY! Australia could have saved their lives if they arrested them, but they chose to send them towards their deaths and pretended to wash their hands. It must be nice
@@jimmydee678Indonesia police told by Aussie police, these guys bringing drugs to bali. They (Aussie) already fed up by these guys several times got caught, but by Aussie law they get out again & again. Its on Indonesia news, bcoz Indonesia police being accused set trap by their lawyer
but the problem was, they did not have the means to detain them at the airport as there was no crime committed on australian soil. the plan was to smuggle drugs TO australia, not out of australia. they weren't doing anything wrong boarding a plane to bali and police couldn't stop them. it's just unfortunate because Scott's father tipped the police, without realising the information would be passed onto Indonesian authorities. I'm not sure if that's a legality thing that Australian police had to do. but even if none of these things happened, there was a likely chance of them getting caught sooner or later.
Your actions always have consequences. I hope people of all ages and walks of life learn from this video. No matter how well you behave and what good you do, the endgame is still the same. R.I.P. I hope your family has come to peace with your demise.
Country says if you smuggle drugs here, you WILL get the death penalty. 9 fucken geniuses say let's smuggle drugs in Indonesia. Please explain to me why should I feel bad for stupidity.
They were being aggressive during their trial, even motioning to cut the throats of the prosecutors yeah real tough guys. Guess they were even laughing at the airport signs on arrival that said the death penalty exists in this country if you are smuggling drugs. All of a sudden now they are patron Saints by doing all these paintings and acting as they are re-formed? This is a great outcome and hope it serves as a deterrent.
@@ghostspiritride He right i am from indonesia on trial they act aggressive so they have no remorse for their crime until death sentence fall unto them they act like saint (basically death penalty is maximum punishment's usually dealer sentence jailed 20 years or life imprisoned)
I wanna add i work in a homeless shelter for youth and am constantly calling ambulances for overdose, adminstering narcan, helping teen girls get out of addiction and sexual exploitation, chatting to family who are desperately looking for an addicted child. Trafficking drugs have such a devastating impact on our community...
They turned their lives around in the hope they’d get a reprieve, if they hadn’t of gotten caught I’m sure they’d have carried on importing drugs which ruins lives.
If the sentence was death, it should have been done immediately. These guys served a long prison sentence and then also got death. That wasn't the deal. Young people can be bad people, but its very common for them to become good people as they grow older. Nothing good came from their deaths. Drug addicts need to take responsibility for their actions too. Its not the fault of the dealer if they lose their life to drugs, they shouldn't be using dangerous drugs if they don't want to lose their life.
As a young kid I was taught that life without morals is not worth anything. I don't think these kids were taught this, or they wouldn't have behaved this way. Life in itself, if you behave in a way that has a high likelihood of killing others, ain't really worth anything. Do these kids' parents know this? If so, why didn't they teach it to their children? If not, what kind of people are those families?
You are dizzy from the lofty heights from which you cast your aspersions, who are you to judge others morality, so you sit there convinced of your moral superiority but condemn others for what you judge to be their immorality.....!? And that's what your Parents taught you....? The true example of these Men's morality is their overcoming the errors of the coping strategies they used to deal with life on life's terms, the strength of their morality can be seen in them transcending the beliefs that contributed to their downfall, they searched for guidance and asked for "the strength to accept the things they couldn't change, the courage to change the things they could, and the wisdom to know the difference"...
@@nicolasrose3064 I'm not judging Chan and Sukumaran after they were caught. Their achievements in that 10 year period are well known - it's clear that they rehabilitated and deserved a reprieve from capital punishment - they earned it. These were not Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy types - bizarre freaks who could never rehabilitate probably even after 40 years in jail. What I'm talking about is the antecedents to how they got there - what drove them to make these choices, why they went this way and not others. What were they taught as children? Were they disciplined for misbehaviour? I've never believed in condeming others for legal behaviour (though I have found many, many people who do this regularly and seek to destroy others (over decades even) who've committed no crimes), but coarsely illegal behaviour, or even illegal behaviour of any kind, is reprehensible and inexcusable if one knew about it. Most people learn this at a young age and are fully informed of what can be potentially severe consequences. However, their crimes would have gotten them not much more than a decade in jail in Australia - were they banking on that or something? I could never bring the shame upon myself that they did, because it would show contempt for the Law (something which is nonetheless very easy to find among countless self-righteous and upstanding "pillars of the community" in cultureless towns) and I believe in the Law's goal to foster a better society and future.
@@Piccolo... If I threatened someone else's life or well being/health, my own was likewise threatened. So I got the picture, and got to thinking about that fast. It wasn't a happy-go-lucky upbringing in that way, or one of relaxed or ambiguous morals. The boundary lines were pretty solidly drawn. Neither of my parents let me get away with much at all really.
Spoken like you are a perfect righteous human being free of sin. Who are you to judge Andrew and Myuran's parents? If anything, you seem cold hearted and cruel, just someone miserable to be in the company of.
Meanwhile in australia..Where laws are made based on feelings not facts.. drugs are getting worse and worse.. drug addicts are filling the mental health system which is now broken.. innocent lives are suffering victim of these drug addicts behaviours.. and tax payers have to pay for these drug addicts and dealers in prison to reward their behaviour by paying for a prison roof and 3 meals a day.. hence the economy is going down.
If you think Indonesia's so great, perhaps you should move there. Never know, you might end up living in the same town as one of the Bali bombers that they set free. What a great country hey?
All traffickers know full well the penalty. The tough talk, swagger and tattoos all fade away. Reality sets in and then suddenly they try to reform. What else can you do in prison? The tv crew just creates a sentimental side. They did not reform.
I must say, the prisoners look very healthy, training, having mobile phones, art classes and bible classes in an Islamic Country. Respect to Indonesia. The dichotomy is that the combined 14 Kgs of heroine would most likely have caused someone to OD, break up a families, increase in crime and basically cause havoc in Australia.
I don’t understand why the media hasn’t brought up that although AU believes the death penalty barbaric and, therefore, abolished it, the Australian Federal Police made sure the smugglers were judged by a country that has it for drug crimes, rather than wait for them to return to AU. AU also won’t extradite someone in their country - citizen or not - unless the prosecuting country promises not to seek the death penalty. Obviously, they were wanting to make examples of them, but that doesn’t negate the hypocrisy that the AFP sent them to their deaths.
At the time of the death penalty, Australia tried to intimidate Indonesia by sending warships, but Indonesia itself had already prepared several warships on the Australian border.
So your compassion goes to people who made a choice out of their own free will to buy and consume drugs? These people who No one put a gun to their heads to force them to buy drugs, who willingly chose to get high and ruin their and their families' lives? The word "victim" is reserved for people like innocent civilians in wars, people who got murdered etc. Not drug abusers who willingly chose to get high and blame others for the choices they make.
My goodness what a heart-wrenching story. I traveled to Indonesia many times and i witnessed their utter intolerance for crimes at any level. I am devastated for Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran and their families. I am confident these men did not die in vain. They clearly demonstrated poor decision making, a great lesson from which for many young people to learn. But they also showed it is never too late to change. I realize their death sentence and execution may have stood out. For me, their sincere transformation and a well-taught life lesson is the underlying element of this story. Rest in peace Andrew and Myuran.
Why is the sellers or manufacturers fault that alcohol and cigarettes freely legal for centuries 🤡 blame your government instead who make billions on taxes selling these products
@@nepalesenewar573 I don't understand It's very clear that drugs are illegal with harsh penalties in some Asian countries and most drug dealers only care about money and greed
That was an incredibly life like painting of his mother. It is so sad, but would they be still smuggling drugs into the country if they did not get caught? and I know from personal experience how addictive Opioids are. You are never released from the craving of this drug once addicted.
Maybe this had to be the offering they had to make. Knowing even if you are a reformed prisoner the sentence will still be carried out. Imagine what the consequences would have been if they managed to get through customs, the untold misery that holds over their country? I don't personally believe in the death penalty but they knew or should have known the reprocussions of such an act.
if they had been successful in smuggling heroin into Australia, i wonder how many Australians might've died becoz of this and as well as periphery effects ( crimes committed to buy the drugs). afaik they were both 1st gen australian citizens , a nice way to say thankyou for having the chance to live in one of the best countries in the world. THANKYOU INDONESIA
The CIA imports drugs into the USA from the poppy fields of Afghanistan and Cocaine from South America. There is just as much corruption and hypocrisy in Indonesia where prison guards sell drugs to prisoners. The entire system is corrupt from top to bottom.
Well, if they didn't get caught, people would've used heroin and some may have died. Killing them might be considered extreme, but that's what the Indonesian law says and it is very arrogant for Australians to tell the Indonesians what to do.
** I am from Singapore - and more than anything, i will just tell you the biggest reminder of my country BEFORE you land and enter the country - you will be reminded at least FOUR TIMES via the flight's intercom that you face the D-P if you try to smuggle drugs in. So don't even try to make this a conversation. It doesn't work to "negotiate" your way out if you try to commit crimes here.
Life in prison would have been justice enough. They where contributing to other's in a positive way. No good came out of their killings only more devastation and heartache. I was an ex heroin user and have totally changed my life and become a nurse and have helped many.
@@jucat60 Life in prison sentence in Indonesia means you would only do around 40-50 years before kicked out from the prison before your sentences would be reduced periodically trough amnesties and remissions during national holidays such as Christmas/New Year holiday and Independence Day. And after serving at least 2/3 of the sentence time, the convicts were allowed to leave the prison. So its not common thing for many people in Indonesia to count that if those lads got life in prison, in maximum they would only serve around 25 to 35 years before they were allowed to leave the prison.
Why can’t 3/4 of every single prison be set free. I bet they’re all reformed since they were caught. Everyone knows consequences whilst they are committing crimes but do it anyway.
99% of prisoners on death row have an epiphany, find God, and turn into a thoroughly decent person. Rarely do they (drug honchos) acknowledge and ask forgiveness from their victims or victims' families, it's always 'poor me'. That they were still 'on top of the game' is proven when they were asked if the cameras would be safe left alone "Myuran said we could leave it in the prison, I asked if it would be safe in a place filled with criminals, he said HE'D MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE TOUCHED IT, and no one did. This doesn't sound like a reformed person, this sounds like the standover person that got him there in the first place.
The people who really get affected are the people who buy the drugs and use them, THEY keep on using because of those drugs being addictive. It ruins their lives and the families and friends who love them is a big loss . And THATS sad.
I was a heroin addict, for years then on the methadone program. Yes we were victims but I don’t believe these men deserved to die. Anyone could see they used their time to better themselves
One can only hope that their " rehabilitation " gave them some comfort in their final months . But don't forget that this wasn't their first rodeo , they had previously had a successful importation , and who knows if that caused the death of any unfortunate addicts . I doubt that their actions had improved anyones lives except their own . My question is , does anyone think that they would have " rehabilitated " themselves if they had again been successful ? I suspect that they would have continued to organise drug smuggling operations untill such time that they had enough money and power to enable them to employ people to do the risky stuff whilst they lived a life of luxury and excess . Whether or not death is an appropriate punishment for getting caught is moot because it is the widely known and advertised penalty in much of South East Asia , they knew what they were risking , and furthermore knew what the mules that they had employed were risking and did it anyway . Any premature loss of life is sad but they were solely the architects of their own demise .
sad as all this is --- if they had succeeded in bringing drugs back to Aust. - how many of our kids would have died or would be hooked on those drugs. They got caught thankfully -- and although they have hurt family and friends because of their actions -- this is who i feel sorry for --- harsh as it sounds -- you did the crime in a country where you knew full well what would happen if you caught.
The lure of lots of money for drug smuggling can be very hard to resist. Don't judge too harshly - one day you might find your own kids caught in its clutches! The love of money is the root of all evil - not money itself but the LOVE of it - and for young people wanting to get rich quick it is a deceptive, but very glittering, bait. The ones who deserve the death sentence are the HEADS of cartels such as The Golden Triangle (Balinese) - not the small fry who do the risk work.
You just feel sorry for 2 people, look at the consequences of these 2 people if they get away with drugs, how many Indonesian children will die because of drugs?
This punishment was never to "rehabilitate" the offenders...It is to discourage other drug smugglers....
yes exactly!
Unfortunately or fortunately whatever way you look at it your 100 💯 % correct.
Because drugs are the government's business
If they were jihadist bombers they would be free by now.
very true.. but unfortunately, it has never worked, and does not show any results in any of the countries that practice it.
I remember stepping off the plane in Bali and seeing a sign that said if you bring drugs into the country you will be put to death.
I think you just summed it up. I am conflicted in my feelings about these young men. They can't say they were not warned. Would we rather that people can just say "I'm sorry" and be allowed to go on their merry way? The punishment may not fit the crime but it is what it is, so to speak.
Right? Why risk it? I wouldn't even have an Advil on me or in my luggage if I was ever to go to Bali
It's on the bloody entry card you fill out on arrival. In bold. In red
And these two guys decided to smuggle drugs there.
Pretty bad decisionmaking.
The paintings are really wonderful!
A gifted painter.
Pretty cool that the prison allows art inside.
@@harvey2609 I don't believe it was their first trip either.
meanwhile, the bali bombers were set free...
IKR... absolutely nonsensical.
At least have some standards for sentencing.
Those bombers may have gotten away from life sentences and the death penalty for giving certain information or making a plea deal etc.. Hard to say because I didn't follow the legal side of things when it happened.
Double standards, I don't agree with what they did!! But no one has the right to take another person's life only god the father has that weight, god breathed life into us only he can take that away . R.I.P. boys
Politically-motivated. I hate the hypocrisy.
Go figure. Unbelievable.
Precisely the reason Aussies should stop travelling to Bali that gives the corrupt Indonesian govt thousands in tourism revenue all while they continue to ask for handouts in aid to help their most vulnerable when they care more about freeing convicted terrorists
"When in Rome, do as the Romans"...Just respect the laws of another country and you'll be fine. Just as the respect you would expect from a visitor visiting your house 🙏
Funny you say that cos there's Indonesians on the street in Bali almost trying to force feed you drugs and getting g angry when you don't wanna buy
@@paulmitchell6485report them to the local police
@@paulmitchell6485 They hear a different drum.
@@paulmitchell6485 doesn't change the fact that you should respect the law in other country or are you implying that if someone break a law in their country, you have the right to do the same in their country?
Except the Romans did a lot of bad stuff. It was part of their culture. Much like the USA.
Having lived and worked in SEAsia for many years, it's always intriguing as to why so many folk think they can get away possessing/dealing in drugs.
You’re underestimating the stupidity of people.
Reality is many got away, few got caught.
*Don't forget:* some do it while being threatened or other family members are threatened 😞
Which I one?
Whichever one it may be some are yakuza.
And crime is crime.
Greed
Everyone changes when they get the death sentence.
Dark truth
Everyone changes when they get older.
A 20 year old drug dealer would want to go straight after 20yrs locked up.
That’s just fact.
Everyone changes with age so death penalty is not needed for anything less than murder.
@@d.tim1989Drug dealers don’t ruin lives and destroy communities?
@@d.tim1989 i agree
Don't go to countries with the death penalty for drug smuggling in order to smuggle drugs!
Risk/reward
You do realise the real bosses of all the proceeds of drug sales, are the last people to be affected by law enforcement.
They use people like this as their low level people to take all the risk. Same goes for biker gangs... They are the low level expendable cannon fodder for the people who really run the game.
It's a shame these people went through with this, but a lot of them were desperate, and desperate people do desperate things.
@@DoubtingThomas333 I do realise that others are guilty, and probably more guilty than these two. That doesn't change the fact that they admit their guilt, and received the punishment that they knew was likely.
Don’t smuggle drugs then you won’t have to worry!
@@garysleith6463the mistake should not warrant death. Thats an extreme punishment. Especially when these guys are at the bottom of the smuggling ring.
@JaiCahill-cd1uwsure 8kg is a trivial thing indeed. 😂
Malaysia has equally harsh penalties for drug trafficking that include death by hanging. Foreigners travelling by air to Malaysia will get a verbal reminder via anouncement on board certain airlines warning about the risks involved for drug smugglers before the plane touches down. Neighbouring Singapore imposes the death sentence for smuggling in a certain amount of drugs too. First time visitors to South East Asia - you have been warned.
You forgot an unwritten caveat, that those who can afford large bribes for corrupt government officials in this criminal system can alter their prospects and lessen their sentences, it's hypocrisy and greed by any other name.
@@amp279yes, but you don’t always that lucky dude, money couldn’t buy it
Malaysia has abolished the death penalty now and indonesia has not executed anyone since 2016 as far as i am aware
@@WTG20233malaysia abolished mandatory death penalty. They still can sentence someone with it. And execution in Indonesia took very long time and usually done at once. Death sentence still given.
I am empathetic towards them and it's a shame they made such a bad decision. As someone who's been living in Vietnam for a decade, I see foreigners getting caught trying to smuggle class A drugs through the country every year, often getting the death penalty or life in prison for less than 10k USD. It's mind-boggling that many don't research the drug laws of the country they travel to in advance, often with extreme consequences.
Yes choices are key
They know. They just think they will not be caught
@@darrenporter1850 I'm sure some do. There's an interesting video where some foreigners serving life in prison are interviewed for a Vietnamese TV channel. Some take responsibility for their actions and accept their future while others struggle. Not the future I'd want for myself but better than death by a shooting squad.
What some smugglers fail to realize is that even if you just have a stopover in Southeast Asia, your bags get scanned just the same and the penalty isn't any different either.
@@VNExperience All westerners know. Lots are young, get into a lifestyle of fun, party, drugs, want easy money, and think about 6 months more of party, rather than the consequences. It would be hard to accept. Have you seen 'locked up abroad' (banged up abroad), some episodes can be found online.
Not a single word from you on THEIR victims . Be they 3rd party or otherwise. I find that sad ,along with your comment about lack of research.
If you're facing death by firing squad, would you put in some effort to have the sentence changed? They were no doubt sorry because they got caught. There are warning EVERYWHERE in Bali, Indonesia and Thailand about death penalties for drug trafficking.
They made every effort to have the sentence changed.
In his letter, he never mentions the harm he brought to the victims of drugs that he supplied and the heartbreak of the families that lost loved ones .
What harm? He never succeeded in smuggling the 8kg of heroin from Indonesia to Austrealia. He was arrested at Bali airport. Who were the supposed victims he supposedly harmed and ruined the lives of?
Drug users aren't victims
Drug lords should not be blamed for “destroying” lives, these addicts chose to buy drugs from them smh get ur sense right mate
I'm a recovering addict and I don't blame dealers. I only blame myself for bad decisions.
@@RodneyS-yv8xbThat was the 3rd time
As harsh as this is, what is it that people don't understand about something being illegal .
The law in Indonesia says " Death penalty for drug smuggling"........ Perhaps show some respect to the law of the country that you visit. They were warned. No sympathy.
Yeah...I'm sure you take the "law book" of every country you travel to and check if they have the death penalty box checked ... Have some respect for them...they paid their dues...
If this happens to your own family members, I hope you say the same exact words to them. No sympathy.
@@mihaicostescu No one is claiming that the were too mentally defective to use google.
@@royywj Interesting that your respect for people is based on genetics and not on character.
@@mihaicostescu i'm pretty sure that you don't need the "law book" to know that EVERY COUNTRY has strict drug policies even the country that known for its drug lords... they knew it, everybody knew it.. even i know it and as much as i feel sympathy.. not because of their punishment but for bad choices they made before they got caught.. drug is not like prohibited food or fruit that can be easily disposed in the trash
The AFP gave them the death sentence, not the Indonesians. the AFP knew about the drug smuggling operation and could have intercepted them on return in Australia. Instead it was chosen to inform the Indonesian authorities when they knew the death penalty was on the table.
Yep imagine being the families of these people who,s taxes fund the AFP, they knew they were giving them a death sentence. The AFP seem to be answerable to know one.
It was the father of one of them who informed Australian Police who in turn told the Indonesian Police. WAFC.
@@killrustoleyum5177 They were still in Australia when the AFP were told.
What wrong with people they were drug dealers dealing Herion lots of people die from Herion it wasn't their first time dealing drugs nobody get caught first time
The crime occurred in Indonesia so the AFP did their job correctly. No crime was committed in Australia
That's the risk you take when you break the laws of another country.
And some of us don't even need to do that. My boyfriend and I were told by a German traveller in Malaysia some years ago that travellers were planting drugs on other travellers unknown to them, to get the drugs through Customs - they'd arrange for someone on the other side to then 'retrieve' what they'd planted.
@@goldenautumn3073"my boyfriend was told by" is best proof for international legal subjects.
Do you spread misinformation by purpose or just for fun?
'If you are caught smuggling drugs you will die" - smuggled drugs anyway
What you don't understand is that if they were never caught they would have continued ruining peoples lives for their own gain.
Yeah because they were caught they reformed. But they cannot take back the damage already done.
Simply put, the world has seen this happen and hopefully it deters others from doing the same.
If you don't believe people can change, then why should they even try?
Indonesia gave this opportunity thousands of times by announcing to all countries that Indonesia imposed the death penalty for narcotics dealers. that they became aware because they had been arrested and were facing the death penalty.
If you follow your mindset, there is no need for prisons in this world, because everyone will wake up after being arrested.
says it right on the visa: drugs are punishable by death.
@@Unfluencer if you play in your "house" doesn't mean you can play at other house.
What if you wrongly accused?
@@thandoiphone6485 if that's the way you think, then it's best to cancel the court and judge in this world, mybe they are "wrongly accused" 🤣🤣
@@Unfluencer And they also put a very big singages on the walls of Denpasar Airport as a final warning, from the terminal area all the way to immigration checkpoints.
I’m sorry but if you are set on the execution then just do it! Don’t reform them time and money and murdering these two men as different people! Absolutely wrong and in humane period.
All kind of "killing" is inhuman -- RIP
Yeah, I bet they held the hands and wept over the people who died of overdose at the hands of their 'business'.
Their way of torturing them psychologically
@@flowerpower8722 you forget these men didnt force them to take those drugs. They also had a choice not to take those drugs! Stop shifting the blame only on the sellers but the smokers should also be held accountable.
This country doesn't mess around, yet...there are people who know the law, but will test it.
Unfortunately we also need to take into consideration the 1000s of lives affected by their actions. How many people have overdosed by heroin smuggled into Indonesia by people just like the two of them? How many people have become addicted and lost their future and families because of drugs. Indonesia and Thailand are two countries that come to mind immediately when one thinks of death penally for drug smuggling, so why risk it?
I absolutely believe they they have been reformed and could have been such positive example should the Indonesian government had chosen to spare them, but did they not only become reformed and also remorseful only after they were caught?
From my point of view, addicts have a responsibility, they shouldn’t be taking advantage of desperate people and creating a demand. Ppl with addiction should seek help, not blame the seller. No one blames liquor stores for selling to alcoholics, after all. But people blame those who are manipulated and taken advantage of for people choosing to take drugs and ruin their own lives.
Of course, that’s just my own emotional response. The reality is that while people with addiction are responsible for their own behaviour, so are people who sell drugs, and both exist in a sick system that needs to be completely reformed. My emotions shouldn’t be taken into account here, but rather, we should all try to create a better system.
@@misskate3815 definition of gaslighting
This also wasn't the first time for some of them.
I immediately thought of all the people who have died because of people like this ,,
@@misskate3815 that logic can be applied to any criminal. I'm glad you're aware of your emotional bias because if we will follow your logic and apply it across the board, it will mean an absolute anarchy
If we started using the same laws in Australia today, our drug problem would be over by Christmas.
No it wouldn't. Indonesia has a massive drug addiction problem - all the south asian countries do. Poor villagers with serious addictions sell their young daughters into prostitution to pay for their drug habits. There are more drugs inside the prisons and there there are outside and the guards sell them to prisoners. The entire system is corrupt, from the top to the bottom. Corrupt and hypocritical.
So true…..Australia is heaven for drug lords and druggies…
Crack down on heroin use and you'll get fentanyl,as in america.smoking heroin is not deadly.if a user shoots up and eventually dies that is their fault not the dealers/importers
same in the US. instead we have gangs of murderers selling drugs and killing whomever happens to be in the way.
Bullshit.
Most criminals show remorse ........ once they are facing the death penalty.
What are you trying to say? They deserved to die? Even in spite of turning lives around inside? They didn't just show remorse, they changed.
@@ohenekojo2561don't fuck up the first time like they did, and you won't be begging like they did.
Wonder how many people die from drugs, and how many kids lose their future when a parent suffers from addiction or death.
Why use drugs in first place , drugs will be available always , so just dont be stupid and dont use it
Convicted as drug smugglers, they died as decent young men. Rest in peace
@russelsprout2155 because there is a thing called growing up and maturing,
Of course your going to plug the ,were reformed when you have a gun pointing at you..lol
How precious life is. Well did you think of the young lives taken with the drugs you wanted to smuggle.
The western world has so many rules /regulations a
/laws and licence that if you live in poverty .
There is literally no other way of getting out of it.. without smuggling drugs .
All these things need to change to allow people to make an honest living.
They didnt give drugs for free. They didnt force people to buy drugs. People know drug is bad and have choice whether to consume it or not, so I really sorry for what these two men had to receive.
@@scorpy1224 you make alot more money and can get out of poverty smuggling drugs .
Than working at slave labour pay at burget king etc .
The west needs to open ecconomies up .. like China did .
So people dont have to smuggle drugs
as if this 8 kg of heroin being taken off the market resulted , somehow, in some addicts not being addicts and overdose deaths not being overdose deaths. stg people cant think straight
What about the pharmacy's handing out drugs everyday people choose to take them as they know the risks people have been trying to find an escape for their problems since the beginning of time
Man I hope this become an education stuff for the next generation. I have been following this story when I first heard about Andrew Chan and 5 years later I still wanna know more story about him. And I gotta say they both have really inspired a lot of life changing not just for the inmate but also a role model.
Ppl will not change. Drugs changes ppl. All think will not get caught. Sadly.
Rules are rules. I feel sad for them but they know what they were in for
I feel so sorry for their families.
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How true.
If you can't handle the punishment, don't do the crime in the first place. They're no different from any other "reformed" criminals.
They did handle the punishment. They were locked up in prison for 10 years. Instead of sitting around doing nothing all day, they HELPED other prisoners by leading Bible studies with them and helping them get to know Jesus as well as teaching them all sorts of classes like art, English, computer, and cooking. If that's not reformed, what is? How many criminals you know have "reformed" the way these two men had?
Having known at least 8 people from school or work who died from heroin overdoses. Having known even more who turned to crime or prostitution to support their drug addictions…I have absolutely no sympathy for drug dealers or smugglers who get the Death Penalty for the misery that they created for innumerable other people.
Sometimes a gamble pays off, sometimes it don't, this time it didn't. One needs to know the risks!
They knew it
The thing that they bet on is not their own life, but many lives of Australians.
Thinking about their attempt to bring back 8 kg of drugs back home.
@@HoroscopeBaziwhy is everyone saying that, unfortunately, they will just get it from someone else nothing changes
I remember this case up until the last days. Including the other 7 inmates. Really wanted them two to survive. Yes they made huge huge mistakes, but they did reform. That's the whole point of how prison should work. It's just that Indonesia have their laws, they are not gonna change it for two people.
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Andrew Chan has beautiful handwriting and articulate. He would have been an asset in discouraging the Australian youth from taking drugs, but would they ever take his advise and be accountable for their own actions without blame on external factors. "What you do today is what you are tomorrow" - Andrew Chan, that's Kamma 101. Consider yourself lucky to be in this country and not in some 3rd world country with zero social benefits; learn to be content.
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Competitive society will grill your from being bad enough and it is your fault for being poor. At least they can dispose of their criminal.
Artist and writer only mayuran sukumaran
Andrew Chan thought he was smarter than the system. He could of done anything but took that direction to get rich fast, and it cost him his life.
@@graeme1744you think drug mules get rich smuggling drugs for traffickers?
They probably weren't getting paid more than USD$5K-10k/trip...
Even in impoverished global south countries with that amount you're far from wealthy, say you make ten successful trips at $8k.
That's eighty grand, a pittance for the enormous risks taken.
People are always sorry and so forth after being caught. They knew the penalties. What message does it send out to future youngsters by letting them go free? The wrong message! Reform is like hindsight - too late, you should have made the commitment earlier!
I don't think anybody is saying they should not be punished and simply freed.
Just that the death penalty is way too harsh
20 years is even harsh. 10 years seems appropriate
Exactly. My heart break for these idiots but they knew the risk they were taking. The height of stupidity.
@@emilegriffith1473 the law is the law. They can't say they didn't know the consequence.
@@harvey2609 you're right. I guess I just have some empathy for their family and loved ones mostly
@@emilegriffith1473 Its not their first rodeo, no wonder AFP or even Indonesian police have no sympathy towards them unlike the Schapelle Corby who manages to serve only few years before banned permanently from Bali after her infamous suitcase filled with marijuana.
It is a very tragic tale. Truly heartbreaking. REST IN PEACE. You are right again.
Most people would claim rehabilitation at gunpoint .
They knew Indonesian laws before they got on that plane but being too cocky, over confident & ignorant led them to think they would never get caught.
Love yourself first because no one else will.
Asian countries let you know that the penalties for drug offences are severe......no excuses....
My heart breaks for these boys and their family. They were on a path to healing, giving back, and building a brighter future. I hope they are resting in sweet peace ❤️
Why did the Australian authorities tip off the authorities instead of just letting them come to Australia ?
So we dont have to pay tax money to house these guys in jail?
AFP are a disgrace
To try and send a powerful message.
Nip it in the bud at the source?
So the suppliers and every one in Indonesia all get their money so they can grow their business peddling death so "our offenders " get an easy deal?
Drugs smugglers and traffickers only turned around their lives because they got caught…
What about the parents that lost their children because of the drugs that being pushed by these drugs traffickers.
Every Australian living in Australia have all the opportunities to make a good living, these Bali 9 are all adults, they make their own choices and they have to live by it.
Cant agree more
Drugs can be dangerous no doubt. However the most dangerous drug in the world is Alcohol. It kills more people than every other drug combined.
Should we blame major Alcohol dealers like Woolworths and Coles?
My thoughts exactly. I don't even have remorse to these people. If they get the freedom after prison time, they will be back and their old ways and will be more cunning.
Damned if You do Damned if You don't once They got done for Drug Trafficking.
If They did show the level of remorse and tried to make amends the way People said They should like reaching out to victims eg no one would ever believe it is genuine.
On the other hand if They didn't reach out to People affected by Drug Trafficking They are called heartless monsters.
It is sad for Everybody involved no one can win :'( .
those kids are gonna find the drugs regardless
If I remember correctly, the Australian cops/govt. knew about them when they boarded their plane to Bali. They could have stopped them in Australia 😢😢
EXACTLY! Australia could have saved their lives if they arrested them, but they chose to send them towards their deaths and pretended to wash their hands. It must be nice
@@jimmydee678Indonesia police told by Aussie police, these guys bringing drugs to bali. They (Aussie) already fed up by these guys several times got caught, but by Aussie law they get out again & again. Its on Indonesia news, bcoz Indonesia police being accused set trap by their lawyer
All cause of that Scott Rush father. Now his own son is rotting in jail. He should feel guilty and responsible as well.
but the problem was, they did not have the means to detain them at the airport as there was no crime committed on australian soil. the plan was to smuggle drugs TO australia, not out of australia. they weren't doing anything wrong boarding a plane to bali and police couldn't stop them.
it's just unfortunate because Scott's father tipped the police, without realising the information would be passed onto Indonesian authorities. I'm not sure if that's a legality thing that Australian police had to do. but even if none of these things happened, there was a likely chance of them getting caught sooner or later.
They could have chosen not to smuggle drugs for profit
Your actions always have consequences. I hope people of all ages and walks of life learn from this video. No matter how well you behave and what good you do, the endgame is still the same. R.I.P. I hope your family has come to peace with your demise.
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Meanwhile in America, repeated offenders, murders are set free after serving minimum sentences..
America is a lawless country
You are warned before you set foot in these countries of the consequences
Learn to respect other countries laws. Do the crime, do the time or the consequences of it.
Country says if you smuggle drugs here, you WILL get the death penalty. 9 fucken geniuses say let's smuggle drugs in Indonesia. Please explain to me why should I feel bad for stupidity.
They were being aggressive during their trial, even motioning to cut the throats of the prosecutors yeah real tough guys. Guess they were even laughing at the airport signs on arrival that said the death penalty exists in this country if you are smuggling drugs. All of a sudden now they are patron Saints by doing all these paintings and acting as they are re-formed? This is a great outcome and hope it serves as a deterrent.
Where you get all that info from... Share it please.
@@ghostspiritride He right i am from indonesia on trial they act aggressive so they have no remorse for their crime until death sentence fall unto them they act like saint
(basically death penalty is maximum punishment's usually dealer sentence jailed 20 years or life imprisoned)
that's the entire idea; they don't do 'reform' over there, it's not a girly place like the West
Amen🙏🏿
I wanna add i work in a homeless shelter for youth and am constantly calling ambulances for overdose, adminstering narcan, helping teen girls get out of addiction and sexual exploitation, chatting to family who are desperately looking for an addicted child. Trafficking drugs have such a devastating impact on our community...
Respect laws of countries you visit.
If you choose not ,remember no one forced you to go there......
RIP lads, you truly turend your lives around at the end, and that's more than most people can say when all is said and done!!!!
True statement...
@@serenasladecollis2665 🌠
They turned their lives around in the hope they’d get a reprieve, if they hadn’t of gotten caught I’m sure they’d have carried on importing drugs which ruins lives.
Turned their lives around 😂, only because they got caught… if they never got caught they would still be drug running
@@openminded4184I’m getting great human being vibes from u
If the sentence was death, it should have been done immediately. These guys served a long prison sentence and then also got death. That wasn't the deal. Young people can be bad people, but its very common for them to become good people as they grow older. Nothing good came from their deaths. Drug addicts need to take responsibility for their actions too. Its not the fault of the dealer if they lose their life to drugs, they shouldn't be using dangerous drugs if they don't want to lose their life.
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USA prison has the answer for you. Check it out.
Exactly
@@smoothride7841really?.
Exactly, drug addicts need to take reponsibility for their actions. Drug dealers need to take resposibility for theirs as well.
As a young kid I was taught that life without morals is not worth anything. I don't think these kids were taught this, or they wouldn't have behaved this way. Life in itself, if you behave in a way that has a high likelihood of killing others, ain't really worth anything. Do these kids' parents know this? If so, why didn't they teach it to their children? If not, what kind of people are those families?
You are dizzy from the lofty heights from which you cast your aspersions, who are you to judge others morality, so you sit there convinced of your moral superiority but condemn others for what you judge to be their immorality.....!?
And that's what your Parents taught you....?
The true example of these Men's morality is their overcoming the errors of the coping strategies they used to deal with life on life's terms, the strength of their morality can be seen in them transcending the beliefs that contributed to their downfall, they searched for guidance and asked for "the strength to accept the things they couldn't change, the courage to change the things they could, and the wisdom to know the difference"...
@@nicolasrose3064 I'm not judging Chan and Sukumaran after they were caught. Their achievements in that 10 year period are well known - it's clear that they rehabilitated and deserved a reprieve from capital punishment - they earned it. These were not Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy types - bizarre freaks who could never rehabilitate probably even after 40 years in jail. What I'm talking about is the antecedents to how they got there - what drove them to make these choices, why they went this way and not others. What were they taught as children? Were they disciplined for misbehaviour? I've never believed in condeming others for legal behaviour (though I have found many, many people who do this regularly and seek to destroy others (over decades even) who've committed no crimes), but coarsely illegal behaviour, or even illegal behaviour of any kind, is reprehensible and inexcusable if one knew about it. Most people learn this at a young age and are fully informed of what can be potentially severe consequences. However, their crimes would have gotten them not much more than a decade in jail in Australia - were they banking on that or something? I could never bring the shame upon myself that they did, because it would show contempt for the Law (something which is nonetheless very easy to find among countless self-righteous and upstanding "pillars of the community" in cultureless towns) and I believe in the Law's goal to foster a better society and future.
Doubtful that you were taught actual morals--- just moralising and judgemental thinking.
@@Piccolo... If I threatened someone else's life or well being/health, my own was likewise threatened. So I got the picture, and got to thinking about that fast. It wasn't a happy-go-lucky upbringing in that way, or one of relaxed or ambiguous morals. The boundary lines were pretty solidly drawn. Neither of my parents let me get away with much at all really.
Spoken like you are a perfect righteous human being free of sin. Who are you to judge Andrew and Myuran's parents? If anything, you seem cold hearted and cruel, just someone miserable to be in the company of.
Meanwhile in australia..Where laws are made based on feelings not facts.. drugs are getting worse and worse.. drug addicts are filling the mental health system which is now broken.. innocent lives are suffering victim of these drug addicts behaviours.. and tax payers have to pay for these drug addicts and dealers in prison to reward their behaviour by paying for a prison roof and 3 meals a day.. hence the economy is going down.
Do the crime, do the time. Their laws are there for all to see.
They knew what the punishment was but greed got the better of them..
Do the crime do the time, at last a country that has penalties which are a deterrent. We need this in Australia for violent offenders
Yeah, the same country that freed the Bali bombers....
If you think Indonesia's so great, perhaps you should move there. Never know, you might end up living in the same town as one of the Bali bombers that they set free. What a great country hey?
It’s not a deterrent
Could you explain how you came to the conclusion that it acts as a deterrent?
@@conjureboneswho are getting freed? They got capital sentence as well.
All traffickers know full well the penalty. The tough talk, swagger and tattoos all fade away. Reality sets in and then suddenly they try to reform. What else can you do in prison? The tv crew just creates a sentimental side. They did not reform.
I must say, the prisoners look very healthy, training, having mobile phones, art classes and bible classes in an Islamic Country. Respect to Indonesia. The dichotomy is that the combined 14 Kgs of heroine would most likely have caused someone to OD, break up a families, increase in crime and basically cause havoc in Australia.
Kerobokan prison is in Bali, a Hindu island that mostly more liberal than the rest of indonesia.
@@sanresmost prison in Indonesia is pretty much the same as they all managed by same department.
I don’t understand why the media hasn’t brought up that although AU believes the death penalty barbaric and, therefore, abolished it, the Australian Federal Police made sure the smugglers were judged by a country that has it for drug crimes, rather than wait for them to return to AU. AU also won’t extradite someone in their country - citizen or not - unless the prosecuting country promises not to seek the death penalty. Obviously, they were wanting to make examples of them, but that doesn’t negate the hypocrisy that the AFP sent them to their deaths.
At the time of the death penalty, Australia tried to intimidate Indonesia by sending warships, but Indonesia itself had already prepared several warships on the Australian border.
The many drug deads caused by this sort of people. My compassion goes to the real victims and their families!
Are you perfect are ya ya dog
How are they real victims? No one make them buy the drugs
@@Gamminnon ya bruv.
So your compassion goes to people who made a choice out of their own free will to buy and consume drugs? These people who No one put a gun to their heads to force them to buy drugs, who willingly chose to get high and ruin their and their families' lives? The word "victim" is reserved for people like innocent civilians in wars, people who got murdered etc. Not drug abusers who willingly chose to get high and blame others for the choices they make.
@@RodneyS-yv8xb Are you excusing their actions?
May their souls rest in peace
How? What about others they have been killing peddling their poison ☠? Don't they count?
I don't even want to see this video anymore
Everything is just sad
What they did and what Happened to them
@@taiwoidowu2854… No one ever forced to take drugs. Drug dealers don’t chase people to buy it.
Sad?
Why?
They are gangs.
Drugs are more dangerous than a killer on the loose?
Yes
Yes
My goodness what a heart-wrenching story. I traveled to Indonesia many times and i witnessed their utter intolerance for crimes at any level. I am devastated for Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran and their families. I am confident these men did not die in vain. They clearly demonstrated poor decision making, a great lesson from which for many young people to learn. But they also showed it is never too late to change. I realize their death sentence and execution may have stood out. For me, their sincere transformation and a well-taught life lesson is the underlying element of this story. Rest in peace Andrew and Myuran.
Moral of the story ,dont smuggle drugs in bali
I feel sorry for the families but not the smugglers.
People are lossing life due to alcohol and cigaratte. Can we please send the sellers/manufacturers to the firing squad as well?
Why is the sellers or manufacturers fault that alcohol and cigarettes freely legal for centuries 🤡 blame your government instead who make billions on taxes selling these products
@@Tibor860 read carefully and understand. Have an open mind
@@nepalesenewar573 I don't understand
It's very clear that drugs are illegal with harsh penalties in some Asian countries and most drug dealers only care about money and greed
@@Tibor860You just described tobacco, alcohol and big pharma companies as well.
you cannot gamble your chips......lose and ask for them back
That was an incredibly life like painting of his mother. It is so sad, but would they be still smuggling drugs into the country if they did not get caught? and I know from personal experience how addictive Opioids are.
You are never released from the craving of this drug once addicted.
Totally agree with your comment about opioids powerful grip.Been there,done that.Been clean from that for over thirty years now.
Maybe this had to be the offering they had to make. Knowing even if you are a reformed prisoner the sentence will still be carried out. Imagine what the consequences would have been if they managed to get through customs, the untold misery that holds over their country? I don't personally believe in the death penalty but they knew or should have known the reprocussions of such an act.
if they had been successful in smuggling heroin into Australia, i wonder how many Australians might've died becoz of this and as well as periphery effects ( crimes committed to buy the drugs). afaik they were both 1st gen australian citizens , a nice way to say thankyou for having the chance to live in one of the best countries in the world. THANKYOU INDONESIA
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The CIA imports drugs into the USA from the poppy fields of Afghanistan and Cocaine from South America. There is just as much corruption and hypocrisy in Indonesia where prison guards sell drugs to prisoners. The entire system is corrupt from top to bottom.
Well, if they didn't get caught, people would've used heroin and some may have died. Killing them might be considered extreme, but that's what the Indonesian law says and it is very arrogant for Australians to tell the Indonesians what to do.
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This story was a hot topic when I was at uni in Melbourne. That was over 20 years ago
Wish more people would understand life is precious
** I am from Singapore - and more than anything, i will just tell you the biggest reminder of my country BEFORE you land and enter the country - you will be reminded at least FOUR TIMES via the flight's intercom that you face the D-P if you try to smuggle drugs in. So don't even try to make this a conversation. It doesn't work to "negotiate" your way out if you try to commit crimes here.
" they thought they would get away with it !"
How about we line up all the families effected by drugs.... Did they all get the chance to turn their lives around.....
It just shows how useless the Australian government is
respect the laws of the countries you are going to be visiting
Life in prison would have been justice enough. They where contributing to other's in a positive way. No good came out of their killings only more devastation and heartache. I was an ex heroin user and have totally changed my life and become a nurse and have helped many.
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@@edmontoncouple1562 what is so funny about that?
@@jucat60seeing Mr Bean comedy.
@@jucat60 Life in prison sentence in Indonesia means you would only do around 40-50 years before kicked out from the prison before your sentences would be reduced periodically trough amnesties and remissions during national holidays such as Christmas/New Year holiday and Independence Day. And after serving at least 2/3 of the sentence time, the convicts were allowed to leave the prison. So its not common thing for many people in Indonesia to count that if those lads got life in prison, in maximum they would only serve around 25 to 35 years before they were allowed to leave the prison.
Why can’t 3/4 of every single prison be set free. I bet they’re all reformed since they were caught.
Everyone knows consequences whilst they are committing crimes but do it anyway.
People need to learn and be highly respectful to the laws of their own countries and other's. Don't want to get burn then don't play with fire 🔥
They played with fire 🔥
The worse part about living is to know when is dying.
99% of prisoners on death row have an epiphany, find God, and turn into a thoroughly decent person. Rarely do they (drug honchos) acknowledge and ask forgiveness from their victims or victims' families, it's always 'poor me'.
That they were still 'on top of the game' is proven when they were asked if the cameras would be safe left alone "Myuran said we could leave it in the prison, I asked if it would be safe in a place filled with criminals, he said HE'D MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE TOUCHED IT, and no one did. This doesn't sound like a reformed person, this sounds like the standover person that got him there in the first place.
standover man. . .why not 'man'?
Mayuran - you made Tamils proud by showing the greatness of positive change - Rest In Peace
The fact they knew that it was death penalty country is mind blowing 🤯
They’ll have known the consequences before they tried smuggling the drugs. They thought they’d never be caught. Hard lines
Melinda is the type of friend we all need❤
The people who really get affected are the people who buy the drugs and use them, THEY keep on using because of those drugs being addictive. It ruins their lives and the families and friends who love them is a big loss . And THATS sad.
I was a heroin addict, for years then on the methadone program. Yes we were victims but I don’t believe these men deserved to die. Anyone could see they used their time to better themselves
Hey man--- they knew the risk of doing their crime... so, be responsibile for you do--- USA, NZ, Uganda ...whatever
Uganda 🇺🇬 wat happened with my motherland?
The bottom line is that when you are in someone else's country, you follow their rules!
One can only hope that their " rehabilitation " gave them some comfort in their final months . But don't forget that this wasn't their first rodeo , they had previously had a successful importation , and who knows if that caused the death of any unfortunate addicts . I doubt that their actions had improved anyones lives except their own . My question is , does anyone think that they would have " rehabilitated " themselves if they had again been successful ? I suspect that they would have continued to organise drug smuggling operations untill such time that they had enough money and power to enable them to employ people to do the risky stuff whilst they lived a life of luxury and excess . Whether or not death is an appropriate punishment for getting caught is moot because it is the widely known and advertised penalty in much of South East Asia , they knew what they were risking , and furthermore knew what the mules that they had employed were risking and did it anyway . Any premature loss of life is sad but they were solely the architects of their own demise .
Dont play with your life. Say no to drugs
sad as all this is --- if they had succeeded in bringing drugs back to Aust. - how many of our kids would have died or would be hooked on those drugs. They got caught thankfully -- and although they have hurt family and friends because of their actions -- this is who i feel sorry for --- harsh as it sounds -- you did the crime in a country where you knew full well what would happen if you caught.
The lure of lots of money for drug smuggling can be very hard to resist. Don't judge too harshly - one day you might find your own kids caught in its clutches! The love of money is the root of all evil - not money itself but the LOVE of it - and for young people wanting to get rich quick it is a deceptive, but very glittering, bait. The ones who deserve the death sentence are the HEADS of cartels such as The Golden Triangle (Balinese) - not the small fry who do the risk work.
Far less than the pharmaceutical companies get away with
@@goldenautumn3073 I've hd lost a cousin & a brother to drugs -- so ppl stay the hell away fr drugs..
No kids just people already on Heroin
They just didn't have enough money to bribe officials like other smugglers. This changes nothing.
You just feel sorry for 2 people, look at the consequences of these 2 people if they get away with drugs, how many Indonesian children will die because of drugs?
I wish they would sit this president in America!
Should we feel sorry for those criminals? NOOOOO
Funny how being given a death sentence straightens you out eh ?