Modern Comics versus Manga

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024
  • The differences between modern comics and manga:
    1. Intro 0:03
    2. Comics are Periodicals, Manga are Books 0:10
    3. Comics are Collectibles, Manga are for Reading 03:50
    4. Comics are Gambling, Manga are for Entertainment 05:23
    5. Comic Buyers Buy Keys, Manga Buyers Buy Collections 07:26
    6. Intellectual Property 09:41
    7. Certified Grading Services 10:36
    8. Is Manga Collectible? 11:21
    9. Manga is ESL 12:31
    10. Comics Are Familiar, Manga is New 13:17
    11. Original Creator vs. Contractor 15:42
    12. The Outro 18:27

Комментарии • 101

  • @icephoenix3302
    @icephoenix3302 Год назад +23

    Comics vs manga has been a big topic for a while, politics aside comics biggest problem in last few years are the stories being repetitive and just bad most of the time also the formats, personally I believe compendiums should be released more frequently like manga’s tankobons because the only comics I even think about buying (I haven’t bought or read a comic yet) are the compendiums of older (just not new) series like watchmen (my favorite superhero film), umbrella academy and invincible. Side note variant covers seem to be a very annoying practice for customers and retailers in its current form, just making comics into collectible art pieces instead of a story with great art that will readers hooked so that they buy more but instead they just buy number 1 issues and variant covers and those people with time will disappear for multiple reasons, so what will these comic companies have then? Probably nothing. (Except Batman or Spider-Man)

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +1

      With declining sales and the rise of paper prices and AI to write movie scripts, I'm of the opinion that Marvel and DC will likely stop publishing comics soon. I could be completely wrong as many before me have decreed the end of the floppy, but I really don't see how it goes on. Most arcs in comics these days are designed for graphic novel serialization, the problem is that pretty much no one actually wants to read the story. They just want to know if their 1:50 variant cover went up in value...

  • @Rearnold1987
    @Rearnold1987 7 месяцев назад +4

    Here's my two reasons, why I prefer Manga over Comics.
    1. They're just easier to follow, start at Vol 1. go on to Vol 2 - Last Volume.. Easy.
    Comics on the other hand Read Issues 1-5 then go over to read this other Comic Issues 7-10 to continue the story Etc.. by the end of it you need several different Comics to complete the Full Story to get all of the Context. Marvel/DC anyway.. Walking Dead, Invincible and other Comics weren't guilty of that I don't think..?
    2 Basically same as your final point, Japan doesn't really care about Modern Politics and totally Bastardizing their own Characters by attempting to appeal to new fans while pissing off all of the loyal ones they've had for years. For Manga, It's all about the Story of that particular Authors vision.
    There's no forced agendas, or pandering or completely changing a character to fit a Narrative.
    That's not to say that Racial or LGBTQ+ Stories don't exist, because they do and there is room for them within the Manga community if that's what you're into.
    But the difference being, They're new stories, new characters, new worlds, Etc..
    Where as recently with Western Comics they have been... In my opinion bastardizing a lot of their Characters/Stories.

  • @iLoveLucy420
    @iLoveLucy420 Год назад +44

    Fairy Tail,Naruto and One Piece have made me cry at some point in their story…Marvel and DC have not

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +14

      Exactly! Marvel and DC are simply living on nostalgia, covers, and speculation at this point as no one feels any attachment to the story inside the comic, at least the ones put out over the past 20 years. If you're not emotionally invested, why financially invest in them? (i.e., why buy their books?) Thanks for the comment!
      Edit: Heh, I'm really old. I thought the "I Love Lucy" in your name was referring to Lucille Ball, not Lucy Heartfalia. I love them both.

    • @iLoveLucy420
      @iLoveLucy420 Год назад +8

      @@OtakuLad999 I love nostalgia when it’s not overused..take Pokémon for example,when ash brings back old Pokémon or older characters return it hits different cause it doesn’t happen very often.
      I was thinking of that show when I made my name lol.I like I Love Lucy,use to watch it on nick at night in the 90’s but I’m definitely referring to Lucy Heartfilia..I freaking love that girl.

    • @zaqqaz
      @zaqqaz Год назад +3

      In the comic medium I personally have not shed a tear but in Marvel and DC shows and movies I have.

    • @riversidecrooks1921
      @riversidecrooks1921 8 месяцев назад +2

      Fairy tail...

    • @jpeckdraws3932
      @jpeckdraws3932 6 месяцев назад

      Facts

  • @kernsanders3973
    @kernsanders3973 8 месяцев назад +3

    Tons of nails have been hit on the head in this video, but a big nail was left out. I use to read comics in addition to manga for decades. The compendiums were what I mainly bought instead of single issues. But that ALL stopped around the mid/end of the 2010s. I think you can guess why. That is lost sales of a returning customer that no longer returns. Only manga for me from here on out.
    All that aside, its great seeing someone your age still into these, with your figures there in the background. Love it! I'd always wondered if years from now I'd still be as much into this hobby as I've been for years. This video certainly showed me that probably will be the case.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  8 месяцев назад +1

      I was thinking yesterday that it wasn't just a single thing that led to the downfall of western comics but rather the 15 knives in Caesar's back from each Roman senator. They were all based on profit.

  • @NewDay-gt7
    @NewDay-gt7 Год назад +4

    First time viewer and I'm impressed by the structure of your discussion. For example, how your comparison starts at a book vs periodical

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +1

      Thanks! Yes, the business of books and the business of periodicals is very different. Just the fact that Amazon specializes in books gives manga a huge advantage in distribution. It's a big discussion where I just hit the basics. Thanks for the comment!

  • @tdotitan8855
    @tdotitan8855 Год назад +8

    Really enjoyed the video, I like the more opinion videos as well as the ebay hauls. I havent really been super into comic books mostly because I feel like characters have been around for too long to really tell an exciting story, since anything exciting or dark or like "wow this really changes the world" can be completely negated by a different author, Plus its hard to get into if you want to read "everything" if you want to read all of berserk you start on chapter 1 and read until the latest chapter (you can read the flame dragon knight I guess? but i havent heard very good things from that one. If you want to read batman or superman do you start on vol 1? well first thing is if you do want to do that you will have to read it online or digital lol. There are probably omnibuses where you can read them but the stories may feel kind dated cause it was made like in the 1940s era. The more common thing to do is start on "runs" where you need to look up what authors people like or what runs people said where good. If you know that the Joker is bad guy who is crazy you can read many of batman comics lol. But if you go in the middle of the run you may be confused.
    Personally I havent really got into comics that much, I always liked the comic book movies and stuff and i like for an example spiderman batman superman etc, but i like it in movie form or tv form because besides the action of a visual medium you dont need to know the backstory really. I mean it has gotten to the point they dont even mention uncle ben sometimes cause its so overplayed lol. But I really enjoyed Spiderverse as an example and the tobey mcguire movies were really good, and the new movies with tom holland are kinda ok but not the best, i did like the most recent one the best tho.
    I think you said it best when you said "comics are a business" and manga is a story. If someone is writing DC or Marvel stories they actually are not incentivized to create new characters or do new stories because what is the reward? you dont get to keep the rights to the character, and you dont want to write too good of a story because then if you do something similar later on in indie comics or whatever you could get sued or whatever. So you play it safe and try to write a solid story that is kinda predictable, with characters we already know. Sometimes this changes and people do interesting things with multiverse type things etc but really its kinda meh.
    I do like that manga creators after its published in shonen jump or whatever the original author can keep creative control for the most part and can even have the same story in different magazines, but as like a "part 2" or something, Gintama and Jojos did this but there are many others.
    Personally I just like Manga a lot more and think its more interesting, I like the artstyle and the varied stories even withing just shonen jump (which is probably the closest thing to a DC or Marvel comics) I dont like saying "Manga is better than Comics" because it feels kinda mean lol. And there are great stories still being published every once in awhile. I am really enjoying the Invincible tv series and I havent really got into the comic but i tried some and it was solid, granted thats image which is the 3rd largest besides the main 2 but yeah.
    I am really happy that manga and anime has become more mainstream especially in the past decade and a half. I think a solid part of that has to go to series like Attack on titan and My hero academia, and just people knowing how to buy and find it now, especially how back in the day people had to hope something good got picked up by a publisher to bring over to the US while there are entire communities that have existed for years that translate manga for people to read online and it doesnt cost anything (Kinda controversial nowadays but it is a big reason why anime and manga became as popular in the west I feel, that or people getting subtitles on VHS or whatever.) I remember when Anime and Manga was "that weird thing the weird kids did" and I was one of the "weird kids" because I enjoyed it lol and felt it was worth it. But thats kinda common anywhere especially when people are in high school, It was Anime and Manga and before that it was Comic books and video games and before that DND etc. And before that it was probably anything that wasnt blind obedience to your teachers lol. But I am very happy that nowadays Manga and Anime is pretty popular to the point that the Manga/Anime that gets translated into english gets translated multiple times sometimes by fansubbers and then by the rights holders and there are a huge amount of series to choose from.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +3

      This was a HUGE topic and I knew I'd only be able to scratch the surface. It really deserved a deep dive and I felt more like a tourist chartering a glass-bottom boat rather than a scuba diver exploring the fabled shipwreck below...
      One of the topics I really wanted to get into was Live Action vs Anime. If we look at Batman 1989 and Akira from 1988, it's almost like these films paved the way for the two industries, In the west, the characters of comics became real-life actors (mostly) while the characters from manga became animated (mostly). In Japan, anime is based on the manga while in America, a brand new story - which references parts of the comics narrative - is created.
      The 1978 Superman showed that superhero movies could turn a huge profit, but I believe it was the heavily-marketed Batman 1989 that proved the concept. In around the same time in Japan, Akira had come out and was blowing audiences away with what animation could do. Thirty-four years later, I look back at Tim Burton's Batman and know that I really enjoyed it, but it seems dated, perhaps because I associate it with the real-world Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson. Akira was also a product of its age, but it definitely has a more timeless feel to it, perhaps because it is NOT tied directly to the real world. It is its own entity, where its characters seem to exist independently in their world, clearly separated from our own because Tetsuo Shima is not Nozomu Sasaki, he's simply Tetsuo.
      Thanks for the comment! You've brought back some great memories of the fansubs on VHS I used to own and when I could visit Video and Sound and rent hundreds of anime titles back in the late 90's. Ah, the good old days...

    • @iLoveLucy420
      @iLoveLucy420 Год назад

      I feel like manga has better protagonist and antagonist..for example take Zeref from Fairy Tail,he’s the best villain(imo)…the more he loves,the more people die around him cause of his curse..a villain that’s not really a villain…brilliant

  • @____2080_____
    @____2080_____ Год назад +2

    I clicked only because I saw a classic Doctor Strange cover drawn by Frank Brunner.
    And even that story with the embodiment of Death, the storytelling makes this concept, soul, powerful, unlike the dreck that became that comic book character throughout, Jim Star Lanes, first run, and of course, for afterwards with characters like Knull or the Beyonders or others.

  • @lowresmk1149
    @lowresmk1149 Год назад +2

    you are right comics are collectibles. I buy the first issues of every comic I can find. And the thing about mangas are they tend to be unfinished or axed, which is frustrating

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +2

      Most of the English language manga that proves popular enough to get a translation are usually finished. Although if they get really successful, the pressure is certainly on the creator to keep it going, and produce more arcs.

  • @badguy8604
    @badguy8604 Год назад +2

    really informative video. i had no idea about any of this because i only read manga online.

  • @basilreid257
    @basilreid257 Год назад +2

    You done good a lot here I never realized.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад

      Thanks. Even though the medium is basically the same for comics and manga, they've become two completely different industries.

  • @JP-1990
    @JP-1990 Год назад +6

    Thank you for providing information that is purely technical and economical rather than just political.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +3

      Thanks! Over these past 4 months, the more I've thought about, I would have to say (English-language) manga owes a lot of its sales success to Amazon. Glad you enjoyed the video, even if I rambled on ab it. Thanks for the comment

  • @spinningtornado4543
    @spinningtornado4543 9 месяцев назад +3

    In current day,
    Manga has made me feel emotions through the story and characters, happiness, sadness, anger, despair, hope, ...
    Comics from the Big 2 have made me feel emotions towards the editors and writers... Mostly anger and annoyance.
    So like you yourself stated, when you look for entertainment, you pick manga.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  9 месяцев назад +1

      Japan really is a powerhouse in the entertainment industry. Not only manga and anime, but also in gaming. I would say South Korea is also gaining a wider audience for their entertainment industries. It's kind of ironic how the Big 2's push towards diversity has accomplished that goal by driving their customers away to consume the goods of other countries.

    • @spinningtornado4543
      @spinningtornado4543 9 месяцев назад

      @@OtakuLad999 Indeed.
      Although, my point of view on the matter is rather unusual compared to local customers : I am an international comicbook reader (currently taking a year long break from them).
      America's have a niche audience where I am and year after year, that group's numbers dwindle. As a direct consequence, the access to them gets reduced more and more with entire stores reshuffling them into smaller and smaller spaces or just taking them away all together. The most recent comicbook series get compiled, sold and, less than a few months later, get sold for a lower price at market squares (either from initial buyers or from stores that couldn't sell them) but most end up being thrown away.
      Manga has never really reduced in its audience in comparison. It only increased as it is far more accessible than anything from the Big 2.
      If I have to make an assessment of the Big 2's problems in regards to diversity, it would be that what is presented as diversity is rather shallow in nature and superficial in execution : When characters act, think and speak the same way regardless of whatever cultural background has been slapped onto them, it all feels cheap and disregards real things like language barriers, cultural barriers, historical differences, ... That exist, have always existed and are what make the world feel as vast as it is.
      When this aspect is not understood, the diverse characters that are being sold cannot be considered diverse or even characters within a story.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  9 месяцев назад +1

      @@spinningtornado4543 I did another video entitled "Why Are Modern Comics Woke?" which addresses some of these points. Since 2004, many large investment firms (Black Rock, Vanguard, and State Street, to name a few) have signed onto the UN's Principles of Responsible Investment (PRI) which factor in the customer's ESG and DEI scores when negotiating investment money. Basically: More Woke = More Access to $$$
      This is why the Big 2's attempts at diversity seem so shallow. To bolster their scores, they're simply checking boxes to gain access to capital, not using diverse characters to tell compelling stories. It is quite literally "representation" and nothing more. Of course, I would also argue that their work-for-hire contracts (where they own all IP), reduced royalty agreements and overall willingness to pay writers as little as possible have also contributed to this lower quality story-telling.
      You can see for yourself the results...

    • @spinningtornado4543
      @spinningtornado4543 9 месяцев назад

      @@OtakuLad999 I have learnt a lot thanks to you, Sir.
      Thank you very much.

  • @relickeep
    @relickeep Год назад +8

    Not all comic book collectors buy books for the value. I buy vintage books to read them. Slabbing, grading, and ridiculous prices are the result of speculators. Manga is becoming more popular because American publishers and writers are pushing the woke agenda, which is a small percentage of the market.

  • @pfeilspitze
    @pfeilspitze 8 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder if those comics will actually keep their value for another, say, 30 years as the people who actually care about them die off, rather than being at the age where they can afford to spend money on things locked up in acrylic.
    Comics only have value now because they *were* read back in the day.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  8 месяцев назад

      My own thoughts are that the classics, key issues from the Bronze Age (1970) and before, will definitively keep their value. Those are the ones people will always buy based on significance. Yes, that significance may wane with time, but even 'Falling in Love' #1 from DC will always fetch a couple hundred bucks or more. You're unlikely to lose money on that. Anything later than 1970 is a crap-shoot though. Will it go up based on what you paid for it? Who knows? One thing's for sure though, the comics not encased in plastic will degrade faster than those that are not. So if you are sitting on a significant comic, there's no shame in having in having it preserved. Buy what you like. Slab what you want to have around in 30 years. And don't treat comics as your 401k.

    • @pfeilspitze
      @pfeilspitze 8 месяцев назад

      @@OtakuLad999 Oh, definitely worth preserving things that have a shot at keeping value. No objection there.
      Just making a demographic point -- the value increase might have more to do with the generation that most cares having more disposable income than it does any intrinsic increase in value. Not that comics are this bad, but I can't help but think of people preserving the tags on their beany babies thinking that there was value there.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@pfeilspitze Totally agree. Anyone speculating on modern comics is likely to be disappointed in six months, let alone 30 years. Kids aren't reading western comics anymore, there's no emotional attachment to develop feelings of nostalgia and no sales. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd be surprised if the 22-page floppy format lasted another 5 years.

  • @etrx87
    @etrx87 9 месяцев назад

    Great video Edward thanks

  • @winry2357
    @winry2357 8 месяцев назад

    I collect and read manga a lot, but one of my prized possessions is a comic version of volume one of the very first Pokémon series. It has been well loved, it was that way before I even got it. I never know where to start with most American comics, especially marvel or DC comics. I have V for Vendetta, the original The Crow, and a couple of Constantine comics but that’s about it. It’s so hard to get into comics when you don’t know where to start. With manga, you just grab volume one and you’re good to go. I’ve only had trouble finding a handful of manga, and some of those are just because they stopped translating the manga.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  8 месяцев назад +1

      At the end of the day, if you have a book/comic you really enjoy and are connected to, that's a win. It's like giving a home to a cherished friend.

    • @winry2357
      @winry2357 8 месяцев назад

      @@OtakuLad999 they really are my cherished friends. Books are amazing. :)

  • @bondrewedthesoverignofdawn1477
    @bondrewedthesoverignofdawn1477 Год назад +1

    Another issue with marvels and DC is the multiverse for writers. Your character needs to be a part of the multiverse and this restricts a lot of quality writers to be creative and create their own verse and everything and this takes away a lot of creative freedom from the author unlike in the Manga industry which has its own verse, power systems and everything. This puts a lot of modren comic artist in a tight spot when it comes to creative writing

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад

      Another 'Made in Abyss' fan I see...
      Totally agree. DC and Marvel had the chance to negotiate with creators for original works, to bring in fresh new ideas and new worlds, but figured Image would never survive and they'd all be back anyways. These days, I'm not sure how many superhero movies WB and Disney plan to make, but we're definitely entering into diminishing returns here! I think someone was onto something when they ruled copyright enters public domain 70 years after its last surviving author has passed.
      Thanks for the comment!

  • @sirperybLakeney
    @sirperybLakeney Год назад +1

    Hmmmm. Manga are initially published in periodicals and sell bucketloads They are re-published in Tankobon format (books) afterwards.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад

      Yep. I think the plan for comics was the same, to maximize on the graphic novel sales, but very few graphic novels are big sellers.

  • @antonydrossos5719
    @antonydrossos5719 7 месяцев назад +1

    True; no manga collector are looking for that rise in value that N American collectors look for, but I’d still guess that some would find value in my old issues of Animag.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  7 месяцев назад

      I still remember buying those ani-mags! The NA Shonen Jump magazine #1 especially sealed is worth money.

  • @hellequinnz
    @hellequinnz Год назад +1

    I guess I’m not a traditional collector. Growing up in the 80s to 90s I ready every comic I collected and reread every single on every year for decades until it was too many to read ever year. If I didn’t enjoy it I sold it or gave it away. Never bought a “key” because it was valuable and have never graded a comic.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад

      I was the same way. I stopped buying comics after I completed my House of Mystery run (and yes, I read every issue) but got back into collecting a few years ago. This time it was as an "investor" and I soon realized that the story quality of modern comics wasn't what I remembered... Stopped buying comics and moved to manga and light novels. Still love my older comics though. Thanks for the comment!

    • @theshepherd2610
      @theshepherd2610 9 месяцев назад

      This why western comics does not sell as much mo ey per year as manga. Western comics catered to the collector instead of the consumer. Now they are endanger of going extinct where as manga is growing exponetially.
      If western comics thought of the consumer of comics more than the collector. I believe they could rise again. Also i think the realistic art sells less than stylized art that kids(future life long consumers) feel like they could draw.

  • @CoreyMason-r8g
    @CoreyMason-r8g Год назад

    Great topic ❗💯🔥👍

  • @waifubreaks1572
    @waifubreaks1572 10 месяцев назад

    I haven't read the Gunsmith Cats comic, but I love the OVA.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  10 месяцев назад

      Crank up the OVA to eleven, and that's the manga. It's like they created a PG animated version based on R-Rated source material. I actually enjoy (and own) the OVA as well, and it is a fun watch for sure.

  • @leandronc
    @leandronc 7 месяцев назад +1

    I only buy comics in collected editions. The book format is much more durable and manageable than these flimsy floppies. Also, you can read a floppy comic in the blink of an eye! A manga volume will get you quite a lot of reading for your buck.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  7 месяцев назад

      Agreed. Prices for the floppies have gotten way too expensive. Thanks for the comment!

  • @sigmaboi2946
    @sigmaboi2946 9 месяцев назад

    I sincerely want to be deep in comics because I just love the Batman character. I just bought the Hush Batman because it looks so cool to me. But comics can't give me the feeling that I get when I read manga. Manga is more immersive to me. Comics is just like reading the Art book of a game. The art is undeniably gorgeous but I don't feel much attachment to it because I know that everything that is happening in that comics is not canon. Nothing feels canon in comics and there is no progression in the story. Every artist and every writer has a different take. Unlike manga where it has a beginning and an expected end.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  9 месяцев назад

      That's a really good point. Reading the franchise western comics feels like you're reading a "version" of the character. I enjoyed 'Hush' as it had some clever ideas and beautiful art, but you're right, anything interesting in it could be disregarded by the next writers on Batman. With manga, there's the definitive version and that's all there is.

  • @greyfire64
    @greyfire64 Год назад

    I’m trying to get into comics as a manga fan this video was pretty interesting to watch
    would you just recommend to stick with those omnibus (since they seem like the manga equivalent of volume collections)

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +1

      Yes, definitely. And graphic novels. Read the online reviews to see if they're interesting. If you're looking at comics published today, stick to the independents like Image.

    • @greyfire64
      @greyfire64 Год назад

      @@OtakuLad999 i’ll check out image and do my research thank you for your response

  • @ryotgaming7511
    @ryotgaming7511 Год назад +2

    Manga made by the creators of Gacha: No Gacha
    Comics made by collectors: Gacha

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +2

      That's an excellent way to put it!

  • @rpg_haven
    @rpg_haven 6 месяцев назад

    Cool channel, man. You need better thumbnails-you'd get way more views and subs

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks! Yeah, I definitely didn't think this video would do more than 100 views when I made it. Thanks for the comment.

  • @jpeckdraws3932
    @jpeckdraws3932 6 месяцев назад

    I still by manga I by a new one every month ussally physical sometimes digital to. I used to by comics until they went off the rails crazy. I enjoy the experience of going to the store and buying a physical manga

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  6 месяцев назад

      I usually buy my new manga off Amazon, but I do enjoy going to local shows to buy secondhand manga. Currently collecting One Punch Man, Made in Abyss, and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid. Some of the light novel series are really good too!

  • @mohakadecincy2413
    @mohakadecincy2413 Год назад

    Hello,
    Interesting subject and analysis; however, I have many points of disagreement, especially regarding the difference between comics and manga.
    I agree that comics are inherently periodical, but just like manga.
    In Japan, all manga are initially published in magazines, whether they are weekly or monthly, and if they achieve a certain level of success, they are then released as bound volumes (this isn't unique to Jump titles).
    Additionally, concerning the "business" aspect, both manga and comics are driven primarily by business considerations.
    Take, for example, titles in Jump that get eliminated without any regard for the readers when their weekly rankings or sales numbers aren't up to par-there are quite a few.
    How many manga series are rushed to an ending because sales are declining and the publisher wants to make room for something new?
    Also it's essential to remember that manga authors work closely in collaboration with their editors, who adjust their stories daily to align with the magazine's readership.
    In essence, mangaka often don't have as much creative freedom as one might think; their manga is frequently guided by business interests (I recommend reading the manga "Bakuman," which provides an intriguing perspective on the life of a mangaka).
    Next, regarding the "collectible" aspect of manga, I also disagree, unless we're talking about the Anglo-Saxon market only.
    I've been a fan of manga and anime since the '80s and a manga reader since the '90s.
    I'm French who has been living in the USA for a few years now.
    In France, for example, manga has a strong following (it's the largest market outside of Japan), and there has been a culture of "collectors," "limited editions," etc., for decades.
    This has given real value to certain manga that can reach astronomical prices in the resale market.
    So, I believe it's more a matter of market maturity. In the US, the market is relatively young (readers over 30 are rare), which wasn't the case in France, for example.
    Until recently, there were few editions that could appreciate in value in the future, but I think that's changing.
    As manga gains popularity and the readership ages with more disposable income, we've seen some out-of-print titles becoming valuable in the secondhand market, attracting collectors. Many publishers are also offering high-quality editions at higher prices, turning manga more and more into collectible items.
    Regarding the rest, I agree with you on several points. I also enjoy comics, but it's true that the genre suffers from a lot of redundancy, and it can be challenging to dive into a story without prior research. Manga provides easier access and offers a lot of diversity within the genre (one author, one title, it is much easier as well). That's my perspective on the Western manga market. It was a cool video, and I enjoyed hearing your take on the subject.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад

      Many excellent points here. One I'd like to explore in more detail:
      "...both manga and comics are driven primarily by business considerations..." This is true, but I would contend that the nature of 'business' has evolved to be markedly different here in the West since 2008. I have a sneaking suspicion that DC and Marvel comics have been sacrificed to the altar of ESG/DEI in order to check all the right boxes for their (far more) expensive movie projects. Honestly, I think that's the only reason they're still publishing.
      Current manga production reminds me a lot of comics in the 70's, where the editor ran the show. If an artist couldn't make a deadline, they wouldn't be used and thus would not be paid. They had tight margins and tighter schedules. But it was in this highly competitive market environment, especially after the Code loosened in 1968, that some of the best comics were produced.
      Lastly, I've been doing a weekly video tracking English-language manga sales on eBay. There are indeed some rare, high-priced manga out there, but it won't hit the crazed heights of comic collecting until the certified grading companies become involved. If you think Air Gear 28 is expensive now, wait until you see it in a 9.8! I hope I'm joking, but there was a point when I thought D&D modules would never be graded either...
      Thanks for the great comment!

  • @ryuusaki7309
    @ryuusaki7309 7 месяцев назад

    Both are great in my opinion both manga is better manga tells one singular story comics tells plural sure ya got stuff like the original sandman comic or preacher,Spawn,Invincible For the most part have stand alone stories for themselves. But for the most part with Marvel/ Dc ya gotta remember issue number 29 go to crossover event this and that reference to west coast avengers 35 lol etc. Lastly with western comics is obviously the politics either changing the core character to be gay,Non binary change their race to something else etc to check some boxes. Now to be honest I am black I don’t mind original black characters or Asian or etc and so forth but now it seems checking boxes. Manga on the other hand it just tells it’s own story don’t matter what it is it can be something simple like a Girl isn’t popular and she has anxiety or a manga about Magical girls that have psychological issues and deals wit crazy things like depression,assault etc. Mangas like me and the devil blues about the jazz singer robert johnson who made a deal wit the devil to play jazz. Action stuff like One piece,Jujutsu kaisen,mature stuff like Berserk ,Vinland saga the list goes on and on !

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  7 месяцев назад

      In the end, they're basically the same medium. In my opinion, the 3 big differences are the work for hire contacts the early comic companies used, which created legacy characters through owning the IP, animated movies that stick to the source material vs live action movies that don't, and finally the subversion of ESG and DEI into western media through loans and investment. I did a video called Why Are Modern Comics Woke on that last one. Thanks for the comment!

  • @amigosmundousa2246
    @amigosmundousa2246 9 месяцев назад

    Amazon big seller another format of books of Japan light novels I'm buyer continued buying volumes digital format kindle or some fans prefer paperbacks

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  9 месяцев назад

      Manga has capitalized much more on digital sales vs western comics. That's mainly due to the collector mindset for the physical comic of buyers here compared to the people who actually want to read manga.

  • @magtegi2
    @magtegi2 7 месяцев назад

    this is really sad to hear 05:53

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  7 месяцев назад +1

      It's like gambling. Most people wind up with a lot of comics that aren't worth what they paid for them and stop collecting. So it is sad, for sure. At least if you buy what you like, you'll like what you have.

  • @KCComics
    @KCComics 9 месяцев назад

    Manga are not comic books because they are read from right to left. I enjoy some anime shows and live action out-of-sync sound to action, but I've never liked manga....opinion

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  9 месяцев назад +2

      For myself, I've adopted the Scott McCloud definition of comics which is "juxtaposed pictorial and other images in deliberate sequence, intended to convey information and/or to produce an aesthetic response in the viewer" which classifies manga as comics. That's my viewpoint.

  • @Trid3nt861
    @Trid3nt861 9 месяцев назад

    Manga has a diverse range of stories and characters with vast plots and dont lecture to the audience.
    Western mainstream comics are woke ideologically with bland stories and characters. Plus they lecture the audience and demonize them.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  9 месяцев назад

      I have another video called "Why Are Modern Comics Woke?" where I postulate that Marvel and DC have sacrificed their comics at the altar of ESG/DEI in order to obtain better financing for their movies.

  • @Amelia_PC
    @Amelia_PC Год назад +1

    Thanks for the clarification. As a comic book creator, my goal is to have people engage with and enjoy my story, rather than stow it away on a shelf. Thus, I'll be directing my focus toward graphic novels with a lower emphasis on collectability. If the intention is to create collectibles, I'd consider exploring NFTs or other fungible items.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад

      Do you have any of your work online? Would love to check it out.

    • @Amelia_PC
      @Amelia_PC Год назад

      @@OtakuLad999 RUclips keeps deleting my comment because of the link O__O

    • @Amelia_PC
      @Amelia_PC Год назад

      @@OtakuLad999 To be honest, I don't have much online content, since my "online selling skills are a disaster. I tried it before, in Gary V's way haha. So I solely deal with publishers and let them handle the audience. I have some outdated stuff online in the agency, though. Here it is (if RUclips allows me to paste a link. I'm testing it in this message. let me see it):

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад

      @@Amelia_PC Maybe just try some key words for a search? I know YT doesn't like links in the comments.

  • @pittcanna
    @pittcanna 8 месяцев назад +1

    Boomer mentality right there, reason why comics suck these days is because of the false economy of graded comics. Boomers essentially said screw stories and get involved in endless cash grabs. Your opinion is destroying comics. They bought comics to read back in the day, but boomers shit all over that and made it a collectors market.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  8 месяцев назад

      My opinion is that people should support what they like. That's always been my opinion. Please don't make generalizations about people you don't know. P.S. I like your dog videos.

    • @pittcanna
      @pittcanna 8 месяцев назад

      @@OtakuLad999 your whole video is a generalized statement on false hoods on comics vs manga. You have no idea how distribution works in Japan, manga is not collected in books off the bat. Multiple stories are collected in monthly digests from different artists/writers and told as normal comic lengths in 22 page formats. Then after 6 months they collect them in a digest like tpb.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  8 месяцев назад

      ​@@pittcanna Thanks, yes I can see how referring to manga as "books" when it starts off as a periodical in digests such as 'Shonen Jump' in Japan was misleading. I should have specified English-language manga (which is a collected foreign-language edition) is primarily distributed as books and has/had an advantage due to Amazon's rise as a distribution channel. Comics through graphic novels might also have prospered the same way, but did not because of the collector's market and the insistence on purchasing the original floppy due to rampant speculation and grading.
      My point is that DC and Marvel have also hurt comics by constantly screwing over their creators. For example, I consider Alan Moore one of the greatest living comic book writers. I love his 'Watchmen' and 'V for Vendetta' comics. He had a stipulation in his contract where the rights would revert back to himself and the artists after DC stopped publishing them. To prevent that from happening, DC has never stopped publishing them. How many people even know who Bill Finger is? Then there's the story of how Joe Shuster used to stand outside and watch people attend the musical of "It's a Bird... It's a Plane... It's Superman!" because he couldn't even afford a ticket.
      Constantly screwing over creators has consequences. Mainly, no one wants to be exploited by giving away their best ideas to have their Intellectual Property used in films that gross millions. A few creators managed to sign good deals for royalties back in the 80's and 90's, but many more had to take the page rate. Manga can be exploitative as well, but at least the creator gets to keep their IP so that if they have a hit series, they get paid.

  • @beefydonut6977
    @beefydonut6977 Год назад

    if you havent read one piece please do, its amazing in every sense

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +2

      Just picked up the first one, which is the 34th printing. I track manga sales on eBay and those box sets are selling like crazy! Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @VirideSoryuLangley
    @VirideSoryuLangley 8 месяцев назад

    Collectors are the cancer that killed comics. Greedy, selfish people.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  8 месяцев назад

      I would argue it was the work for hire agreements that allowed the greedy selfish publishers to retain the IP, but everyone has their own opinions. Thanks for the comment.

    • @pittcanna
      @pittcanna 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@OtakuLad999you are so wrong. Comics was a reader's market until graded comics, the biggest scam out there perpetually pushed by boomers wanting to cash in on others hard work.

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  8 месяцев назад

      @@pittcanna Not really. CGC started in 2000 and comics in the 90's were straight cash-grabs, including die-cut covers, variant covers (I'm looking at you, X-Men #1), foils, cross-overs, you name it.
      And what do you mean by "others hard work"? The writers and artists who created these characters?

    • @pittcanna
      @pittcanna 8 месяцев назад

      @@OtakuLad999 dude your information is so bad it's not even funny. Cgc is involved in multiple scandals right now. It's no more than paying for a false sense of collection. Mis counts for number of graded copies. Miss graded books.
      The only real collector worthy books ended 70-80's everything in the 90s and 2000's is all bullshit because of lack of history.
      The only reputable company to grade comics is Sotheby's auction house. Your a boomer I get it you want your books to grow in value but your collection is not all that great.
      Comics failed because boomers wanted to cash out and not tell a good story. Comics used to be good but because the story is shit, anime and manga have more presence at sdcc.

  • @figuredrawing4912
    @figuredrawing4912 Год назад

    Nah. It's pretty bad. NGL

  • @dimebang8052
    @dimebang8052 Год назад +1

    u need read berserk and vagabond bro

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +1

      I've watched all the Berserk there is to watch and I'd love to pick up the books, just a matter of affording them. Want to read Vagabond some time as well, it looks awesome. Currently working on my Overlord and Gunsmith Cats runs. Thanks for the comment!

    • @syntheticreality549
      @syntheticreality549 Год назад +1

      @@OtakuLad999I just discovered your channel and I’m loving the content! Also specifically about berserk, I enjoy some of the anime adaptations, but it’s just not anywhere near the canon story. 8 highly reccomend getting the deluxe editions of berserk from dark horse comics. They come with 3 volumes a piece and they’re hard cover. Reading the true story has been an incredible experience for me! Arguably the best art I’ve ever seen!

    • @OtakuLad999
      @OtakuLad999  Год назад +1

      @@syntheticreality549 Glad you're enjoying the channel! Yeah, the deluxe editions of Berserk are definitely on my wish list as I consider it as one of the best works of sequential art storytelling ever, but I need a few more volumes of Gunsmith Cats first. I don't know why I'm so invested in completing that run, but I am. It's also interesting for me to watch as secondary manga prices rise as more and more people enter the hobby. There is a big difference though, as reprints can happen at any time for manga. Thanks for the comment!