I've been a cyborg since I got my spinal cord stimulator implant back in 2015, & I can definitely say that the coolest part of being a cyborg by far is being able to say that I'm a cyborg
Lol. Ok so a device that shocks your spine makes you a cyborg? Then everybody with a pacemaker or insulin pump is a cyborg as well. Sorry but that seems like a pretty freaking low bar. What a waste of money. You could have just taken more opioids. I highly doubt you don't take any to begin with. In which case getting a device planted in your freaking body is akin to them adding Tylenol to hydrocodone to increase its "effectiveness". What a joke. When it comes to altering brain chemistry I would bet my money on actual chemicals working better than than still not fully understood electric shocks. It's no wonder why shock therapy is considered barbaric and hardly ever used nowadays. The back implant is nothing but a whiplash reaction to the opioid epidemic. Hey let's not use drugs which we know work and instead just stab about in the dark with a mosquito zapper. Go ahead call me an asshole. I'm ok with it.
Here in England 🇬🇧 October is real creepy , fog cold dark early 😮seriously creepy ,we got werewolves and vampire 🧛♂️ type creeps moving in the shadows 😳
@c21h30o2 just shuffle his "The Whole Channel" Playlist. Its what I do before bed lol. And if ads are an issue, well, midroll ads are a thing, and there's Brave browser to take care of the ads.
"I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization which is of course what this is all about." --Agent Smith
I would say a cockroach's processing is still more complex. As things stand, there appear to be unexplored complexities within cells, let alone them working on concert within eukaryotic bodies. The complexity of living is far greater than the complexity of doing one job extremely well. That's why we haven't created life or consciousness yet, just very basic facsimiles. Consider the amount of processing done as the cockroach dynamically senses its environment - sight, sound, smell, taste and touch - with its brain constantly filtering the complex suite of varies sensory inputs. The overall effect seems simple, but the biological processing to get there is forbiddingly complex. The AI is piggybacking on that complexity rather than replacing it.
My mom used to say I would forget my head if it wasn't attached. Every time I forget my phone I remember she was right. Being cybernetic is one of those gray areas that sneaks up on you slowly and then all at once. The better question would be to ask who isn't a cyborg? The North Sentinelese and that's about it?
Talos is hugely influential in movie special effects! Jason and the Argonauts was one of my favourite films growing up, and Talos scared the wits out of me. Probably the pinnacle of stop motion, and indeed the same team later brought to life the most famous cyborg of all: the Terminator. Coincidently, the actor who played Hylas, John Cairney, passed away just a month ago.
You could install a pacemaker in someone and call them a cyborg. There’s just a point where being a cyborg starts being cool. Multipurpose limbs are cool.
The part where being a cyborg becomes cool is when you can replace all internal organs (sans the brain of course.) That'd solve many of the illnesses we die to constantly.
@@ekothesilent9456the military is always a great place to do tech R&D, you don't want to involve the general public until you know your invention is worth it.
Honestly JMG I haven't read any of your books but I love your channel I'm gonna check them out. I really enjoy your content, so I just wanted to say thank you.
Dude I love all your videos. Thank you for all the hard work you put into your content. You make me excited to learn again. Your topics are so interesting and your way of breaking things down doesn't make me feel dumb.
Humans number one focus right now in technology, should certainly be on feeling out the molecular scale building capabilities. There needs to be a consistent, reliable way to assemble and observe at ultra small scales, while also having a large range. This definitely gets into the tool-fog area of thinking, i personally can't see any other way to get a base level of engineering efficiency superiority. Not only would there be techniques, but databases and everything would be quantized from the ground up.
I’m already a cyborg. I’m a type one diabetic who has a continuous glucose monitor and insulin pump. These devices do the job of my pancreas in maintaining my blood glucose levels. They can do things my body couldn’t do even if it were healthy, such as lower my blood glucose levels to an appropriate level well before I eat something containing a lot of carbs. Now, I’m not yet an AI-controlled cyborg. My devices still need to be programmed by humans and they can’t override the commands of a human. That’ll change soon, though. I, for one, welcome my pancreas-controlling artificial intelligence.
Posthumanist would say that the tools we use are both an artifice and an extension of our body, so we always were partly artificial because tools existed before the Homo sapiens
I hope they (as ethically as possible) try these experiments on social insects. It'd be fascinating to see colonies of ants and bees communicating with each other in real time
As much as I appreciate biotech and cybernetics, I wish that experts would spend a bit more time researching ways to kill cockroaches than researching ways to play with them using electrodes.
You just hook all of them up to electrodes and have some AIs control them in a destructive way. Like bug fighting where you can bet on which AI’s cybugs terminates all of the other one’s.
The Fifth Element had the spy cockroach in the capitol scene. But my major worry is trying to figure out how to use The Three Seashells when that technology comes out.
I think it can be argued we are already Cyborgs in that many of us are dependent on our laptops, smart watches, phones, extra. Take them away and we feel lessened. I know as an auto mechanic decades ago I relied solely on my own mind to diagnose and repair people's cars, but now I pretty much always rely on the internet to guide me. Even when I am sure I know what's wrong I will almost always go to the net to confirm and investigate the best way to execute the repair. As well I always photograph and video people vehicles before and during the repair to both augment my memory and document the condition of the vehicle. I scan the vehicle's vin with my phone to more quickly find info about it. I attach a Bluetooth scanner to the car so I can remotely interface with the car through my phone or tablet... So in a very real way I am not only a Cyborg mechanic I'm part of a hive mind like the Borg of Star Trek. The major difference so far being I still think I have freewill and am not yet surgically implanted with tech to connect directly to the hive mind that is the net.
I was one of the few people to think AI would take over art first. I can't speak for all disciplines, but as a musician, it's painfully obvious most music follows rather predictable structures. I'm an electronic music enthusiast as well and it's even more painfully obvious because we have a lot of gear that basically generates music for us. DAWs have had arpeggiators and riff machines forever and modular setups have so many options to make "generative" music. It's so easy to make music without a human touch. It may not be as obvious in other forms of art, but all art is just patterns at the end of the day. That's probably why autistic people, who see patterns in everything, often excel at art. It's all just patterns.
We're already cyborgs. We all outsource most of our memories to electronic devices now. And while I cant speak for everyone, I can say my girlfriend greatly enjoys the non-organic modifications I've made to other parts of me as well.
I loved Pohl's "Man Plus" and "Mars Plus" for his take on being a cyborg. Then there's the Murderbot diaries. If I could get an implant that would let me see more of the electromagnetic spectrum I'd definitely consider getting one. On the other hand the Butlerian J***d kind of sounds like a good idea atm.
Quick Dumb Question: So how much Adderall do you need, then, to manage all of this and NOT space out, dissociate and lose track of every thread of data? Neurotransmitters do have clear limits. :)
@@bradleypoe6846 😂You don't need any substances to benefit from an EEG headset, nor would you be missing out, please be responsible under guidance from your doctors. Analogue interpolation resolution has direct relation to the location, amount, and assortment of nodes on a headset, while the application-specific integrated circuits on a headset will affect the quality of digital interpolation. The digital signal goes into a desktop computer and machine learning software interpolates repeating unique brainwave patterns while using additional context to associate specific events, whether that be a sequence of thoughts or actions, with the patterns of activity. Basically digitalizing engrams, only slightly more difficult than digitizing VHS. After training a machine learning model (MLM) on the contextual brainwaves of an individual, merely thinking will produce brainwave patterns that match datasets from their specific MLM, and other software can include the MLM programming interface (API) to do stuff like print their thoughts, control a video-game character, or after enough practice, maybe a real swarm of those Black Ops 2 hunter drones. Pretty cool, _right?_
It could be worse. :) Be thankful he doesn't cover current events, on Earth. Then he might be tempted to quote a whole lyric: " . . . for in-depth explorations in this ever-changing world in which we liiiiiiiive. . . . . IN."
Excellent work JMG! As to the paths that no one saw that we humanity may go down; If earth is currently visited by nonterrestrial life, it would be invaluable to learn how older planetary cultures have handled the development of created intelligences, and technological bodily implants. When we are learning from older civilizations and adopting those standards and best practices, we will be truly free.
Ive always loved the Anime series Ghost in the Shell. It would be awesome to have a cybernetic body that has tactile abillities, able to feel the textures of warm blanket and able to taste sweat tea or a spicy pepper. They actually sell kits to control roaches online that connect to a nerve cluster behind the wings not a very invasive procedure.
John, question for you. Does technological progression reach an endpoint AND are there any new fundamental technologies left to discover like the computer and steam engine? Thanks!
Here is a question, what if a really smart A.I. managed to merge quantum mechanics with general relativity, but no human scientist could understand what it had done or how, we were just not smart enough. Do we believe it? or reject it because if we can't understand it, what good is it to us. How could we peer review it? then only the A.I.'s would have the intelligence to understand and use or implement it, what would we do?
many of us are already cyborgs ; but the chrome just hasnt gotten mainstream yet ; the only thing im truly interested in is the ship of theseus experiment , how the process is started and how it is incrementally pursued will be imho one of the most interesting journeys a human has ever taken
I do not disagree with any point but just to add a slight nuance: Technology used by humans still has to contend with the culture and the current economics of the situation. In some ways this might be a barrier. For instance: the woman with epilepsy whose neural implant was recalled because the company went bankrupt. Even though it worked just fine. If companies can not reliably maintain their neural implants, like the subscription model or something but the tech start ups can go out of business, than this technology will be hobbled. It won't be because it doesn't work, but because of the economic systems. Or the AI generated art of much controversy, where it might trick your customers, but don't let them find out that you used AI. Art and other cultural products have to be something people want to buy, and to a lesser extent, something that can be copyrighted. If people don't want to pay for an AI generated work of art than it is worse than worthless, because all of those servers and all of that computation has a real life detriment to the earth (water/energy consumption) Hiro of Alexandria might have invented a steam engine in antiquity, but it wasn't desired in his culture, more seen as a novelty. Everything a human does still exists within that cultural context and the economics of the situation.
Hey JMG, could you make an 30-60 minutes long video which slowly dips in volume of speech letting only cylinder8 to stand out which will fade away eventually too :D... would be the best lullaby in our observable bubble. Just talk about anything .. don't forget to use "spooky" word and keep the "liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive" for the first part of this best ever project :D. Love your stuff man! Yeah no monetizations! it will be your gift to humanity! I'm ready to sponsor that video!
I have hearing aids, corrective lenses, and I carry an entire library in my pocket that allows me access to the sum total of human knowledge. I am already a "cyborg" of sorts. 😊
When it comes to AI, we're still not at the level we think we're at now, if you get my drift. If the current technocrats have their way, the only thing AI will ever be really good at is targeting ads at you. But when I say these things, I feel like I'm whistling past the graveyard.
I'm fascinated how many people make definitive statements about what is and is not conscious even though we don't really have an idea what (subjective) consciousness is. It's not even possible to prove that any human other than you is conscious. Or that plants aren't.
I'm essentially a cyborg already, with a substantial titanium spinal implant, as well as implants in my teeth and nose due to reconstructive surgery. In the future, I'll likely need new knees and a new hip. Despite the chronic pain, I choose to laugh rather than cry, knowing that none of us are getting out of life alive anyway. Perhaps it's better to embrace life with passion, even if it means coming to a screeching halt with your hair on fire.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Someone who is an AI-scientist: When will organoids merge with AI and quantum computing? How far is we from creating ”Frankenstein’s monster” in a lab, in a way where we get these 3 things to work in a smooth way to upgrade computers, even if it will just be a big brain with the size of a house? I want to see that AGI doing some science to reserve aging among other things.
In a sense this happens and has happened over and over... do you think our individual cells planned to become humans? Very cool insights... it is a fascinating time to be experiencing the universe!
"...I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization which is of course what this is all about. Evolution, Morpheus, evolution, like the dinosaur. Look out that window. You had your time. The future is our world, Morpheus. The future is our time..."
AI has two problems: 1. energentically inefficient, 2. lacks the biological ethics we do inherit (psychopaths excepted?) The first problem is obvious: they use supercomputers that waste lots of energy, while our brains run on the power of a lightbulb. The second problem less so, it seems: some seem to give for granted that a mind can operate in a vacuum without major problem, but the reality is that there's both hardcoded and softcoded stuff that insert minds in a social context, the first one has been generated in humans by evolution, which has been social for a millions of years (and it's not just sociability/socialism but also the need for truth/honesty/science in that social context, the need for respect, i.e. freedom, etc.), this is surely hardcoded in us as genetic "ethics". The softcoding comes as we socialize as children and young adults especially. AIs lack both, thus they tend to be "psychopathic" liars, "yes-bots" but also deceitful bots, untrustworthy and thus quite useless and also very dangerous.
10:11 “From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.” I mean, that’s how I play Kenshi, so if it’s good enough for Beep, it’s good enough for me.
I think you underestimate our internal image of ourselves. I’ve been a cyborg since 1970s. I have always worn contact lenses. I had one of the first fittings of soft lenses as a teenager. I have been wearing contacts since June 1976 when Logans Run was released. 47 years, 4 months, 3 days. I merge seamlessly into my extensions. I can even live apart from them for short periods. 🛸 When I fly my plane I am not afraid of the hight, because those are not the airplanes wings I see out the canopy, they are my wings. They flex when I think about turning. They flair when I land. As the pilot I am the plane. Without me it has no purpose and is just an artifact of tech, not the tech it’s self.
Its funny to think that with steam engines and archimedes screw (from which modern propeller of a ship is derived from) romans couldve created ironclads, granted with no guns and worse armor, but full iron ship with a ram would certainly be a scary thing and largely counteract the incompetence of roman navy
Some other odds and ends here: --I'm just glad most researchers are still doing cockroaches and not bumblebees, or honeybees. Bees CAN count, add and subtract, generally, and certain species of eusocial bee do have unusually effective swarm-logic tactics baked in, as it were. Not that I want someone to create the "dissociated cyborg bee-hive" where the bees only have non-invasive implants, but the _other hive_ where the drones are gets to learn everything the bees know. No really, drones are bad enough, let's not make them smart AND armed to the teeth at once. --Peak Water may well put the kibosh on all of this anyway. In terms of cooling needs one ChatGPT4 session uses on average a half-liter of water (500 milliliters) to cool its computers off. This doesn't count any extra accessory water usage implicit in the electricity generation needed for the computers (whether it's from extra power plants or water used in fracking out natural gas for fuel). We might not have enough water for both 8 billion people and rising, and also agriculture, and also A.I. --The problem with cybernetic implants coming in from the field of medicine first? Is also that the first brains an A.I. will see are the damaged ones. Think about that: the first examples of "human mind" that an A.I. will encounter might well be the mentally ill ones. Or the ones with concussions. Or the ones with neurodivergent conditions like autism or ADHD. This could be the Black Swan that condemns A.I. to forever be poorly informed about human nature--even when the biases are gone and there's nothing but the best intent there, early influences are formative, and it's going to suck hard dealing with an A.I. that thinks Peak Humanity is some guy like Elon Musk. --Another problem: what happens when people, actual confirmed human beings, for whatever reason, start to "think too much like them"? For example: Say someone has an A.I. chip in their head, and its primary functions are to improve the person's brain health (and mental health by extension). Say the chip is there to both prevent seizures and severe moments of bipolar mood disorder. And let's say that one thing this chip does is, it monitors and filters the "chatter" between the two hemispheres of the person's brain, in effect acting as a dampener and editor of the person's impulses if not their surface, conscious thoughts. What happens, then, when that person gets too much "A.I. brain" going on and starts sounding like an algorithm no matter what they say or do? Do we help that person, and if so, how? Do we declare "mission accomplished" and then explain that (and offer the person some sort of accommodation or reparation to compensate for the loss of "I'm KILROY !!" levels of humanity)? And what if it's not just one person, but a whole demographic or subculture of them?
We are all cyborgs right now! Through our phones, I pads, and TV’s. , we have access to the total of human knowledge. The only difference in the future will be the interface being direct to our nervous system and be much faster. Surprisingly, this is way more advanced than most people realize, with many different approaches. NeuroLink has already been given the regulatory okay for human trials. AI is highly dependent on its data and algorithms biases. As we have recently learned AI can be taught to prefer a specific social political view. It can be trained to ignore what falls outside a trained set of rules. The big question is when will AI show curiosity and judgement about things that lie outside those rules. How AI makes it through this “crisis” will determine where humanity’s future leads.
I've been a cyborg since I got my spinal cord stimulator implant back in 2015, & I can definitely say that the coolest part of being a cyborg by far is being able to say that I'm a cyborg
Cyborgs are real, just not yet the way they’re depicted in Science Fiction like Cyberpunk and all
Hey I’m one too! I got one lens implant to fix bad vision in one eye.
Sooooo is it now LGBQTC C for cyborg
Lol. Ok so a device that shocks your spine makes you a cyborg? Then everybody with a pacemaker or insulin pump is a cyborg as well. Sorry but that seems like a pretty freaking low bar. What a waste of money. You could have just taken more opioids. I highly doubt you don't take any to begin with. In which case getting a device planted in your freaking body is akin to them adding Tylenol to hydrocodone to increase its "effectiveness". What a joke. When it comes to altering brain chemistry I would bet my money on actual chemicals working better than than still not fully understood electric shocks. It's no wonder why shock therapy is considered barbaric and hardly ever used nowadays. The back implant is nothing but a whiplash reaction to the opioid epidemic. Hey let's not use drugs which we know work and instead just stab about in the dark with a mosquito zapper. Go ahead call me an asshole. I'm ok with it.
Great story! We are living in the future!
Can we just have a year round spooky october ?
I'm still waiting for an 8 hour compilation to sleep to 🙄
Here in England 🇬🇧 October is real creepy , fog cold dark early 😮seriously creepy ,we got werewolves and vampire 🧛♂️ type creeps moving in the shadows 😳
@@C21H30O2you can already do this, he has a playlist of it
@c21h30o2 just shuffle his "The Whole Channel" Playlist. Its what I do before bed lol. And if ads are an issue, well, midroll ads are a thing, and there's Brave browser to take care of the ads.
❤❤ I'm lobbying for Halloween to become permanent this year. I like the cut of your jib.
"I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization which is of course what this is all about." --Agent Smith
You are drop dead gorgeous.
I would say a cockroach's processing is still more complex. As things stand, there appear to be unexplored complexities within cells, let alone them working on concert within eukaryotic bodies. The complexity of living is far greater than the complexity of doing one job extremely well. That's why we haven't created life or consciousness yet, just very basic facsimiles.
Consider the amount of processing done as the cockroach dynamically senses its environment - sight, sound, smell, taste and touch - with its brain constantly filtering the complex suite of varies sensory inputs. The overall effect seems simple, but the biological processing to get there is forbiddingly complex. The AI is piggybacking on that complexity rather than replacing it.
I'm already feeling like a cyborg with my earbuds that connect me to my phone, the internet, and the world in which we live...
My mom used to say I would forget my head if it wasn't attached.
Every time I forget my phone I remember she was right.
Being cybernetic is one of those gray areas that sneaks up on you slowly and then all at once.
The better question would be to ask who isn't a cyborg?
The North Sentinelese and that's about it?
SCP 001/person of interest/leader of the goi we will contain you dr wonder tainment your toys.
Hella dramatic
Don't you mean "In which we liiiiiiiiiiiiiive"
Talos is hugely influential in movie special effects! Jason and the Argonauts was one of my favourite films growing up, and Talos scared the wits out of me. Probably the pinnacle of stop motion, and indeed the same team later brought to life the most famous cyborg of all: the Terminator. Coincidently, the actor who played Hylas, John Cairney, passed away just a month ago.
Your uploads have been the highlight of my day as of late. Thank you JMG!!
"A computer can never be held accountable. Therefore a computer must never make a management decision."
A computer 🖥 with a Gun 🔫 😅 A computer with arms and legs 🦵 ,a cyberman😅 an ANDROID 🤖
Humans are rarely held accountable either. At least computers are staring to be designed which can learn. Humans rarely do that either.
Great video dude. Loving the spooky October!
For the algorithm!
Sweet
For me? How thoughtful!
Nice
Ad algorithmus!
@@Taipan108 Ad *algorithmum.
You could install a pacemaker in someone and call them a cyborg. There’s just a point where being a cyborg starts being cool. Multipurpose limbs are cool.
I have a micro chip in my arm constantly measuring my blood levels. So I can see the effects of stuff I eat. Which is fun.
I don’t want cops to have baton arms and taser hands. They, and soldiers will be the first people to have these sorts of things.
The part where being a cyborg becomes cool is when you can replace all internal organs (sans the brain of course.) That'd solve many of the illnesses we die to constantly.
@@ekothesilent9456the military is always a great place to do tech R&D, you don't want to involve the general public until you know your invention is worth it.
@@tncorgi92well it is government funded
Honestly JMG I haven't read any of your books but I love your channel I'm gonna check them out. I really enjoy your content, so I just wanted to say thank you.
@@SoiSomethingis that a thing? Does he read his own material ? Just imagine a whole book in audio form spoken by the man the myth jmg
I can definitely recommend Supermind, really good read and creepy as hell.
That was so damn exciting. Another stellar production from John Michael GOATier. 😁
I do enjoy his regular in depth exploration into the interesting and unknown aspects of this amazing universe in which we liiiiiiiive.
lol
Perfectly said brother
Are they just ai written now?
@@savvytriesYOU are AI written now
Dude I love all your videos. Thank you for all the hard work you put into your content. You make me excited to learn again. Your topics are so interesting and your way of breaking things down doesn't make me feel dumb.
Humans number one focus right now in technology, should certainly be on feeling out the molecular scale building capabilities. There needs to be a consistent, reliable way to assemble and observe at ultra small scales, while also having a large range. This definitely gets into the tool-fog area of thinking, i personally can't see any other way to get a base level of engineering efficiency superiority. Not only would there be techniques, but databases and everything would be quantized from the ground up.
I give it less than 20 years, provided that we aren't in an irl version of Fallout before then.
Way less
I'd give it 10
Great vid
MOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! i find your voice oddly soothing keep up the awesome work my dude
Love this spooky October and only half way there 🎉 much lv JMG and team❤
In a world w unlimited content options to choose from, very few take precedent above all else. JMG stands alone at the top. Much love for you John
I’m already a cyborg. I’m a type one diabetic who has a continuous glucose monitor and insulin pump. These devices do the job of my pancreas in maintaining my blood glucose levels. They can do things my body couldn’t do even if it were healthy, such as lower my blood glucose levels to an appropriate level well before I eat something containing a lot of carbs.
Now, I’m not yet an AI-controlled cyborg. My devices still need to be programmed by humans and they can’t override the commands of a human. That’ll change soon, though. I, for one, welcome my pancreas-controlling artificial intelligence.
Posthumanist would say that the tools we use are both an artifice and an extension of our body, so we always were partly artificial because tools existed before the Homo sapiens
I hope they (as ethically as possible) try these experiments on social insects. It'd be fascinating to see colonies of ants and bees communicating with each other in real time
Thank you John
SPOOKY
Always happy to see a new JMG video!
Much Appreciated.... Great Content...Thank you JMG....👍
As much as I appreciate biotech and cybernetics, I wish that experts would spend a bit more time researching ways to kill cockroaches than researching ways to play with them using electrodes.
You just hook all of them up to electrodes and have some AIs control them in a destructive way. Like bug fighting where you can bet on which AI’s cybugs terminates all of the other one’s.
Fascinating topic indeed! Thanks a bunch, John!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
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I like that you're just flat out, full on, embracing it.
One could say the same thing about your name...... 😆
It's all fun and games until AI gets ahold of cockroaches with wings!
Excellent commentary… so glad I discovered this channel.
Finally subbed 😂. I don’t know what took me so long I absolutely devour your videos lol. Thanks for the great content John!!
This one frightened me. I’m shook.
This is an awesome episode!
The Fifth Element had the spy cockroach in the capitol scene. But my major worry is trying to figure out how to use The Three Seashells when that technology comes out.
You beat me to it
You mean you don't know how to use the Three Seashells?
My thoughts exactly. Glad to see someone else remembered that part of The 5th Element.
Wrong movie
I think it can be argued we are already Cyborgs in that many of us are dependent on our laptops, smart watches, phones, extra. Take them away and we feel lessened. I know as an auto mechanic decades ago I relied solely on my own mind to diagnose and repair people's cars, but now I pretty much always rely on the internet to guide me. Even when I am sure I know what's wrong I will almost always go to the net to confirm and investigate the best way to execute the repair. As well I always photograph and video people vehicles before and during the repair to both augment my memory and document the condition of the vehicle. I scan the vehicle's vin with my phone to more quickly find info about it. I attach a Bluetooth scanner to the car so I can remotely interface with the car through my phone or tablet... So in a very real way I am not only a Cyborg mechanic I'm part of a hive mind like the Borg of Star Trek. The major difference so far being I still think I have freewill and am not yet surgically implanted with tech to connect directly to the hive mind that is the net.
Ugh.. now this is getting unsettling and really spooky..
Thank you John for yet another well made, thought provoking episode.
Probably my new favorite JMG video
I can't stop the video until I hear "In which we livvvvvvvve"
Same 😂
really great episode! thank you!
I was one of the few people to think AI would take over art first. I can't speak for all disciplines, but as a musician, it's painfully obvious most music follows rather predictable structures. I'm an electronic music enthusiast as well and it's even more painfully obvious because we have a lot of gear that basically generates music for us. DAWs have had arpeggiators and riff machines forever and modular setups have so many options to make "generative" music. It's so easy to make music without a human touch.
It may not be as obvious in other forms of art, but all art is just patterns at the end of the day. That's probably why autistic people, who see patterns in everything, often excel at art. It's all just patterns.
Minor note, organoids are not just mini-brains; pretty much any bonsai organ counts.
We're already cyborgs. We all outsource most of our memories to electronic devices now. And while I cant speak for everyone, I can say my girlfriend greatly enjoys the non-organic modifications I've made to other parts of me as well.
Always refreshing!
I loved Pohl's "Man Plus" and "Mars Plus" for his take on being a cyborg. Then there's the Murderbot diaries. If I could get an implant that would let me see more of the electromagnetic spectrum I'd definitely consider getting one. On the other hand the Butlerian J***d kind of sounds like a good idea atm.
Just finished reading We Are Bob. We are Legion. Its fun and interesting series of books dealing with exactly this.
😮Donk
Me sitting here with an EEG headset and AI brainwave interpolation to write "what do you mean, when?"
Oh, maybe I can control an army of cockroaches too!
I'm also able to photocopy engrams into text descriptions or image format, this stuff is pretty insane.
Now imagine being able to simultaneously manage an entire cabinet of CG meta-human politicians, and at least three actors with ear pieces.
Quick Dumb Question: So how much Adderall do you need, then, to manage all of this and NOT space out, dissociate and lose track of every thread of data? Neurotransmitters do have clear limits. :)
@@bradleypoe6846 😂You don't need any substances to benefit from an EEG headset, nor would you be missing out, please be responsible under guidance from your doctors. Analogue interpolation resolution has direct relation to the location, amount, and assortment of nodes on a headset, while the application-specific integrated circuits on a headset will affect the quality of digital interpolation. The digital signal goes into a desktop computer and machine learning software interpolates repeating unique brainwave patterns while using additional context to associate specific events, whether that be a sequence of thoughts or actions, with the patterns of activity. Basically digitalizing engrams, only slightly more difficult than digitizing VHS. After training a machine learning model (MLM) on the contextual brainwaves of an individual, merely thinking will produce brainwave patterns that match datasets from their specific MLM, and other software can include the MLM programming interface (API) to do stuff like print their thoughts, control a video-game character, or after enough practice, maybe a real swarm of those Black Ops 2 hunter drones.
Pretty cool, _right?_
JMG i fall asleep to this PLEASE stop saying “in which we liiiiiiiive” it wakes me up
“in which we sleeeeeeeeeeeeep”
It could be worse. :) Be thankful he doesn't cover current events, on Earth. Then he might be tempted to quote a whole lyric: " . . . for in-depth explorations in this ever-changing world in which we liiiiiiiive. . . . . IN."
Excellent work JMG! As to the paths that no one saw that we humanity may go down; If earth is currently visited by nonterrestrial life, it would be invaluable to learn how older planetary cultures have handled the development of created intelligences, and technological bodily implants. When we are learning from older civilizations and adopting those standards and best practices, we will be truly free.
Always good JMG!
This was just fantastic had everything
Thanks for these awesome videos. You are the man
Neuralink just kept popping in my head🤔 strange?! Happy Spooktober JMG!
Let's go!
Ive always loved the Anime series Ghost in the Shell. It would be awesome to have a cybernetic body that has tactile abillities, able to feel the textures of warm blanket and able to taste sweat tea or a spicy pepper. They actually sell kits to control roaches online that connect to a nerve cluster behind the wings not a very invasive procedure.
John, question for you. Does technological progression reach an endpoint AND are there any new fundamental technologies left to discover like the computer and steam engine? Thanks!
Here is a question, what if a really smart A.I. managed to merge quantum mechanics with general relativity, but no human scientist could understand what it had done or how, we were just not smart enough. Do we believe it? or reject it because if we can't understand it, what good is it to us. How could we peer review it? then only the A.I.'s would have the intelligence to understand and use or implement it, what would we do?
many of us are already cyborgs ; but the chrome just hasnt gotten mainstream yet ; the only thing im truly interested in is the ship of theseus experiment , how the process is started and how it is incrementally pursued will be imho one of the most interesting journeys a human has ever taken
The ship can change, but overall, it's still has the same capitan. That's my take on it.
Since I was a child I've dreamt of being a full conversion cyborg. I want that robot arm so bad that it hurts to think about.
Same
a natural born (heh) transhumanist, I see
2:59 Wow that's actually crazy... How come I've never heard of this?
John Michael GOAT-ier.
I do not disagree with any point but just to add a slight nuance:
Technology used by humans still has to contend with the culture and the current economics of the situation. In some ways this might be a barrier.
For instance: the woman with epilepsy whose neural implant was recalled because the company went bankrupt. Even though it worked just fine.
If companies can not reliably maintain their neural implants, like the subscription model or something but the tech start ups can go out of business, than this technology will be hobbled. It won't be because it doesn't work, but because of the economic systems.
Or the AI generated art of much controversy, where it might trick your customers, but don't let them find out that you used AI. Art and other cultural products have to be something people want to buy, and to a lesser extent, something that can be copyrighted.
If people don't want to pay for an AI generated work of art than it is worse than worthless, because all of those servers and all of that computation has a real life detriment to the earth (water/energy consumption)
Hiro of Alexandria might have invented a steam engine in antiquity, but it wasn't desired in his culture, more seen as a novelty.
Everything a human does still exists within that cultural context and the economics of the situation.
Hopefully AI would recognize that politicians are a waste of oxygen.
Hey JMG, could you make an 30-60 minutes long video which slowly dips in volume of speech letting only cylinder8 to stand out which will fade away eventually too :D... would be the best lullaby in our observable bubble. Just talk about anything .. don't forget to use "spooky" word and keep the "liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive" for the first part of this best ever project :D. Love your stuff man! Yeah no monetizations! it will be your gift to humanity! I'm ready to sponsor that video!
Your show is next level 💪 wishing you many, many more subs and success on the RUclips’s 🤙
I have hearing aids, corrective lenses, and I carry an entire library in my pocket that allows me access to the sum total of human knowledge. I am already a "cyborg" of sorts. 😊
When an IA bot decides it needs to do math on its own, unprompted by a human, we are fucked...
"Gentlemen, we can rebuild him...."
the spookiest spooky october video by far.
01:10 [Hephaestus PTSD intensifies]
Context, plox.
A space "gun" is all very well but how would you get back? 🤔
When it comes to AI, we're still not at the level we think we're at now, if you get my drift. If the current technocrats have their way, the only thing AI will ever be really good at is targeting ads at you. But when I say these things, I feel like I'm whistling past the graveyard.
I'm fascinated how many people make definitive statements about what is and is not conscious even though we don't really have an idea what (subjective) consciousness is. It's not even possible to prove that any human other than you is conscious. Or that plants aren't.
I'm essentially a cyborg already, with a substantial titanium spinal implant, as well as implants in my teeth and nose due to reconstructive surgery. In the future, I'll likely need new knees and a new hip. Despite the chronic pain, I choose to laugh rather than cry, knowing that none of us are getting out of life alive anyway. Perhaps it's better to embrace life with passion, even if it means coming to a screeching halt with your hair on fire.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have Cochlear implants. I'm a cyborg too! 😂
This one is a bit scary. The implications you point out with the theoretical CEO and politician sound completely valid to be.
Great stuff. If we cant draw a line of consciousness, that suggests its an illusion, a construct.
Someone who is an AI-scientist:
When will organoids merge with AI and quantum computing?
How far is we from creating ”Frankenstein’s monster” in a lab, in a way where we get these 3 things to work in a smooth way to upgrade computers, even if it will just be a big brain with the size of a house?
I want to see that AGI doing some science to reserve aging among other things.
Remember the cockroach spy camera from "The 5th Element" lol
Some of that at the end reminds me a bit of the shenanigans the AI were up to in the Hyperion Cantos.
Unity through technology!
In a sense this happens and has happened over and over... do you think our individual cells planned to become humans?
Very cool insights... it is a fascinating time to be experiencing the universe!
Aww yeah! Tnis is what I’m talking about!
And now I await the valient story of Rescue Roach Rudy and the AI companion
I welcome cybernetic parts. I would love to have a new voice box so I can sing again. Thanks for the video!
"...I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization which is of course what this is all about. Evolution, Morpheus, evolution, like the dinosaur. Look out that window. You had your time. The future is our world, Morpheus. The future is our time..."
AI has two problems: 1. energentically inefficient, 2. lacks the biological ethics we do inherit (psychopaths excepted?)
The first problem is obvious: they use supercomputers that waste lots of energy, while our brains run on the power of a lightbulb. The second problem less so, it seems: some seem to give for granted that a mind can operate in a vacuum without major problem, but the reality is that there's both hardcoded and softcoded stuff that insert minds in a social context, the first one has been generated in humans by evolution, which has been social for a millions of years (and it's not just sociability/socialism but also the need for truth/honesty/science in that social context, the need for respect, i.e. freedom, etc.), this is surely hardcoded in us as genetic "ethics". The softcoding comes as we socialize as children and young adults especially. AIs lack both, thus they tend to be "psychopathic" liars, "yes-bots" but also deceitful bots, untrustworthy and thus quite useless and also very dangerous.
10:11 “From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.”
I mean, that’s how I play Kenshi, so if it’s good enough for Beep, it’s good enough for me.
That's the most subtle way I've heard from JMG of calling me a cockroach 🤣
All in all, I'm in for becoming a cyborg! 😉
Well, the machines couldn't screw up any worse than we already have. I for one welcome our benevolent and merciful AI overlords.
With AI, keep it simple, keep it dumb, or else you will end up under Skynet's thumb. - Isaac Arthur.
I think you underestimate our internal image of ourselves. I’ve been a cyborg since 1970s. I have always worn contact lenses. I had one of the first fittings of soft lenses as a teenager.
I have been wearing contacts since June 1976 when Logans Run was released.
47 years, 4 months, 3 days.
I merge seamlessly into my extensions. I can even live apart from them for short periods. 🛸
When I fly my plane I am not afraid of the hight, because those are not the airplanes wings I see out the canopy, they are my wings. They flex when I think about turning. They flair when I land. As the pilot I am the plane. Without me it has no purpose and is just an artifact of tech, not the tech it’s self.
Awesome
Its funny to think that with steam engines and archimedes screw (from which modern propeller of a ship is derived from) romans couldve created ironclads, granted with no guns and worse armor, but full iron ship with a ram would certainly be a scary thing and largely counteract the incompetence of roman navy
Some other odds and ends here:
--I'm just glad most researchers are still doing cockroaches and not bumblebees, or honeybees. Bees CAN count, add and subtract, generally, and certain species of eusocial bee do have unusually effective swarm-logic tactics baked in, as it were. Not that I want someone to create the "dissociated cyborg bee-hive" where the bees only have non-invasive implants, but the _other hive_ where the drones are gets to learn everything the bees know. No really, drones are bad enough, let's not make them smart AND armed to the teeth at once.
--Peak Water may well put the kibosh on all of this anyway. In terms of cooling needs one ChatGPT4 session uses on average a half-liter of water (500 milliliters) to cool its computers off. This doesn't count any extra accessory water usage implicit in the electricity generation needed for the computers (whether it's from extra power plants or water used in fracking out natural gas for fuel). We might not have enough water for both 8 billion people and rising, and also agriculture, and also A.I.
--The problem with cybernetic implants coming in from the field of medicine first? Is also that the first brains an A.I. will see are the damaged ones. Think about that: the first examples of "human mind" that an A.I. will encounter might well be the mentally ill ones. Or the ones with concussions. Or the ones with neurodivergent conditions like autism or ADHD. This could be the Black Swan that condemns A.I. to forever be poorly informed about human nature--even when the biases are gone and there's nothing but the best intent there, early influences are formative, and it's going to suck hard dealing with an A.I. that thinks Peak Humanity is some guy like Elon Musk.
--Another problem: what happens when people, actual confirmed human beings, for whatever reason, start to "think too much like them"? For example: Say someone has an A.I. chip in their head, and its primary functions are to improve the person's brain health (and mental health by extension). Say the chip is there to both prevent seizures and severe moments of bipolar mood disorder. And let's say that one thing this chip does is, it monitors and filters the "chatter" between the two hemispheres of the person's brain, in effect acting as a dampener and editor of the person's impulses if not their surface, conscious thoughts. What happens, then, when that person gets too much "A.I. brain" going on and starts sounding like an algorithm no matter what they say or do? Do we help that person, and if so, how? Do we declare "mission accomplished" and then explain that (and offer the person some sort of accommodation or reparation to compensate for the loss of "I'm KILROY !!" levels of humanity)? And what if it's not just one person, but a whole demographic or subculture of them?
Hopefully soon. I have some parts that are outside manufacturer's warranty!
We are all cyborgs right now! Through our phones, I pads, and TV’s. , we have access to the total of human knowledge. The only difference in the future will be the interface being direct to our nervous system and be much faster. Surprisingly, this is way more advanced than most people realize, with many different approaches. NeuroLink has already been given the regulatory okay for human trials.
AI is highly dependent on its data and algorithms biases. As we have recently learned AI can be taught to prefer a specific social political view. It can be trained to ignore what falls outside a trained set of rules. The big question is when will AI show curiosity and judgement about things that lie outside those rules. How AI makes it through this “crisis” will determine where humanity’s future leads.
John Michael Godier can literally NEVER disappoint us.
Maybe a collab with Ian Davis? That would be awesome cause he doesn't get enough publicity!
Why do you draw out the word "live" at the end of your videos?