As a Manjaro developer, I really enjoyed this comparison. Pop os is great, and their tiling extension is the most mature option out there despite its young age. That's why it is in manjaro repositories too, and shipped in the next release of Manjaro gnome edition too. Pop os devs are also really nice to collaborate with.
Huuuuge thank you for your kind development efforts and work. Since December last year I'm a happy Manjaro-KDE user and it totally won my heart. I use it on my main desktop and working laptop, too. For me Manjaro is a 100% top one.
Really wow I have problem on manjaro when I install wine I get this Dre or has well Vulkan support is incomplete but on any other distro I do not get that error
I bought a System76 laptop last year, which came with PopOS. I immediately scraped for Void for no other reason than that I wanted to try something new. Now, jump to today & I am just exhausted with configuring things myself. I decided to give Pop a shot, and Installed about a month ago. I am truly impressed. Out of the box, things worked perfectly (expected as I have a system76 machine). The gnome-based DE is just beautiful, snappy & a joy to look at and use. I'm also loving their tiling window manager; it brings me back to the custom tiling WM I had on my other linux boxes. Now, sure, with Pop's default apt pkg manager, I'm missing a few things and packages have a higher chance of being outdated; but, If i need a package that doesn't exist, or if the package version in apt is outdated, then I'll just use linuxbrew to install. I am super happy with Pop and even prefer using it over my Mac work machine lol.
Now that it's not being maintained anymore, I'd say it's 66,6%. Not knowing what to do to actually make it work exactly the expected way makes you want to make deals with satan.
Pop!_OS has been a great OS for me, in fact my first distro ever! Good for beginners like me and good for gaming too! I also like the fact that it comes with drivers out of the box, super friendly
Just want your opinion on something: I just have one desktop and I want to switch from windows to linux but i don't lnow too much about it. I also game a little bit like maybe 2 times a week and I've seen that gaming is not on windows level yet. Pther than that i just browse(e.g YT, and other stuff). I watch shows and movies a lot(Netflix). So would ypu recommend the switch from windows to linux or not?
I have tried PopOS as a live usb in a laptop with 2 graphic cards ,nvidia 1650 and Radeon ,but IT doesnt appear wireless,what should I do? Also what software should I install in order to play Windows games ,especially older Windows games that are not playable in Windows 10 cause are too old ?
@@daniahmed I also have one gaming desktop, and have made the switch 100%. I think the deciding factor for me was if the games I wanted would work or not. I would check on ProtonDB to see how well they work either natively on linux or through the proton layer. Gaming was the only thing holding me back from the switch, and turns out that it has progressed leaps and bounds in the last year even. Hopefully that helps you figure out if its worth it for you
@@daniahmed Yes, Linux is actually very good for web browsing. I'd say it's superior in many ways, especially pertaining to security. Gaming is pretty much flawless, I use Steam to manage my library and the only games I really _can't_ get to work are using some tier 0 (root authority) anti-cheat. Whatever you do, especially if you're new, make sure you use an application like TimeShift. It's a very good tool that is akin to system restore on Windows.
As a choice between the two I've always leaned more towards an arch experience which is why for me anyway Manjaro provides the best out of the box setup and gives me a hassle free instant arch system. Most Ubuntu systems feel a little restricted in the sense that if you want something specific you have to tweak, download a new repository and so on just to get what you want to work. Manjaro just let's you do what you need to and is miles more bleeding edge with newer kernels helped by the kernel tool😁. I think it does just come down to what you prefer, some like fedora, some like Ubuntu, some Slackware but for me Arch will always be top.
Pop! was a godsend on my dual-graphics laptop. It usually froze when trying to so much as install any distro, but Pop! installed fine and worked like a charm. I prefer Manjaro as a daily driver on my gaming rig, but highly recommend Pop! to those that may have the same issues I had with my dual-graphics laptop.
If you run Manjaro, run a backup of your system configuration (e.g., using Timeshift) before applying updates. Also, run updates frequently. The longer you go between updates, the more the risk of something breaking increases. One time I went 2 or 3 months without updating Manjaro. When I finally did update it, it was completely borked. I could not even chroot into it.
I for one am enjoying Manjaro with the Cinnamon DE, feels like I'm running Linux Mint but it's better having the AUR and not having to store a bunch of PPA's to keep up to date software packages.
@Major Gear It's a single large repoository maintained by the Arch community, it's got a very large collection of packages for just about anything you could ever need on the off chance your distros official and community repos don't have something you need. For example I have a Canon MG 2400 printer (old printer) that didn't work on linux for some reason. I found out I needed a certain driver that wasn't in the manjaro repos but it was available on the AUR (Arch User Respository) luckily.
@Major Gear aur repo has every app from every distro converted for arch. And mostly you dont have to worry about what drivers or libraries you're missing. Best example would be installing amd opencl drivers for dual GPU's is a nightmare. On pacman they have a amd opencl package after installing both GPU's work. Otherwise only one gpu works from amd website. And most importantly it updates automatically, and never breaks on kernel update. On fedora and ubuntu amdgpu drivers always broke on kernel update.
Old video but I wanted to let you know, your videos helped me pick a distro after a while of struggling to find one for me. As a gamer I took a liking to the concept of pop os, though I had a bit of trouble getting comfortable with it. I switched to Manjaro an I love it so much
I am a linux newbie and just came back from a video of the person you1ve showed with a red cross (0:15). Why are people hating on him? He is quite informative
- Bleeding edge software: Install via pop shop as flatpak. It is maintained by flathub which does a good job releasing new versions. The original project authors are often involved. You can also use Linuxbrew to install bleeding edge software from source. - Long term support: Pop has the faster release version too. LTS is only recommended for people who want extreme stability and don't mind old packages. - Pop is not gnome dependent. You can super easily swap desktop environment with 1 command and 1 click. First sudo apt install the environment you want (system76 has an article about this). Then (without configuring anything) just log out and click a drop down on the login screen to select another environment. You can easily swap between desktop environments at any time.
Thank you for your clear and concise comparisons of these two distros. I am relatively new to Linux but have been around the block quite a few times with Windoze PC builds (been building systems since 1996) and have rarely been satisfied with any Microsoft OS - hated MSDOS and still do but can work with it if I have to, the early MS Windows 1-Me were horrible, I got along with XP and 7, 8 was a horrifying nightmare and 10 can't decide what the hell it wants to be. I got my wifi software ripped to shreds by the May 2020 update and it's been downhill ever since. I have now gotten into Raspberry Pi SBCs and am enjoying the Rasbian based OSs but I would like to work with some beefier Linux distros and finally LEARN how to code and work with the non-GUI interfaces like a grown-up guy! Gosh darn it! I am converting a two year old Dell Inspiron 17 (AMD Ryzen 3 with Radeon Vega Gfx, 8 gigs of RAM, 1 terabyte HD - which I recently broke) into a Linux machine. I've already installed a 500 GB M.2 SSD for the boot drive and replaced the broken HD with a 256 GB SSD for extra storage and adding 8 more gigs of RAM. NOW I know what Linux OS I want, thanks to you. Have subscribed and glad I did!
I've been using Manjaro KDE for some time and love it. It's rock solid and stable. The few minor issues I experienced I was able to fix on my own as the documentation & user community for Manjaro is top notch. I have tried PopOS few times, but prefer the Manjaro over the two. Personal preference I guess.
Since you have used both Manjaro and PopOS, can I ask you some questions ? the difference between the two Which one uses least resources while still not being boring ? Which one is user friendly for a noob ? Which one is faster ? [Very important] Also, do all Linux distros support all Linux softwares and IDEs ?
As a Manjaro KDE User myself this is a great compareson. I've been using Manjaro for School Work and Gaming and Had 0 crashes which i can't say about windows
So difficult to pick. Manjaro Xfce, is perfect. So fast, so complete, with all the Arch goodness without any of its pitfalls. Pop!_OS is so refined and easy to use out of the box. Only criticism would be that there’s too many keyboard shortcuts to memorise to really be productive
I used to run Pop. It was my favorite until the latest version used up so much ram I ditched it for Ubuntu. Ubuntu's theme is by far the best. But left it due to so many errors and problems with it. Went to Manjaro i3wm with gaps, Polybar, and Alacritty terminal. Takes a long time to configure but I really like it and keep going back to it when I want to try something else. I also tried Manjaro XFCE and love it as well. I've never liked XFCE before but all the bugs and screen tearing are fixed now. This is my order of favorites: Manjaro i3wm, XFCE, Gnome, Cinnamon, KDE.
i tried Pop OS a few years back and had major issues adding custom Repos and GPG Keys, it was just insane to get a third party repo going but i installed Manjaro and everything worked, the AUR worked, and i got the software i needed in a few minutes, just my experience. Just a note, im not saying Pop OS is bad, i can see for new users how amazing it is, and how simple it is, but manjaro's AUR and accessibility was more for me personally so just want to share my experience.
I tried several Linux based OS’ recently; so far Manjaro with KDE Plasma is working the best. I haven’t much cared for Gnome but perhaps a “pre-tweeked” version like Pop OS would work. We shall see when my new computer is built.
I am running Vanilla Arch on my System 76 Galago Pro. I ran into some problems with Pop. I use i3, so a lot of the things people like about Pop just don't help me at all. Manjaro is a nice distro, but I prefer to build my own system and use the regular Arch repos. You did a fine job in comparing them. Both are great
As a PopOS user myself, you forgot the most important thing. You can tell people "I use Arch BTW". I'm sorry I had to 😂 And I don't mean that as an insult, it's just funny
2020 might not be a year any of us wants to remember, but honestly-- this is the year of tech. So many tech launches, games, etc. I made the 24/7 switch to Arch earlier this year, leaving windows forever on my main rig. If I had to argue, honestly, I think 2020 is the year of the gnu Linux operating system. So many good options, and gaming friendly these days thanks to the efforts of Steam and Lutris. I've got a 2020 Acer Nitro 5 laptop on the way that will see mostly mobile use, and this sells it for me-- as much as I'd love to run Manjaro on it, I'd rather not eat my phones (will use tethered for internet access) data plan downloading updates all the time. Thanks for the video!
PopOS is awesome for making a big shift for gaming on Linux, super simple out of the box experience. This could increase Linux usage biggest reason for not leaving windows is gaming. I also like that they also do hardware. I know the Linux community wants to keep things hidden from the consumer side of things but i wanna see it get more notice and start getting attention of commercial apps & support to be a full replacement
Love both but using PopOs just for the out of the box shortcuts for productivity, I don't even need to use the mouse to navigate and this without installing tiling managers, writing configs, etc...
i love both of them 🤩...i use kde for manjaro...looks pretty hi tech and it should..as manjaro is considered "bleeding edge" ...also the forum is very helpful and friendly...from the other hand Pop Os is pretty smooth fast and has amazing amd powerful hardware support (thanks system 76!) I think this two distros will become mainstream soon as windows can't Keep up with open software..when gaming comes to Linux .... it's over...is just a matter of time
I use to love Manjaro, I've used it for about 5 months. I don't do system wide changes, i used it mainly for watching, listening to music and artworks and some video editing on Kdenlive. Until recently it gave me headache, unstable symptoms, like turning off suddenly and various other things. Also it boots slow overtime ( i don't use snap), i use regular hdd but pop!_os boots faster, i'm on 2nd week, so far i 'm loving it!
Using Manjaro right now and love it. I have 3 desktops attached to it which are gnome, cinnamon, and KDE. I switch depending on how I feel. Currently using gnome because of the snow extension that falls down the screen. Gnome seems more like a better desktop when it comes to adding different features in a simple way with extensions. I don't mind arch and just know that when using the terminal I have to use "sudo pacman -S" to install apps instead of the "sudo apt install" of pop os. I am i young Linux who has been using it for the past 10 years or so but still learning as I go along. I love pop since i first started using it in the early days. If i had a big enough hard drive and I could do more than the dual boot i have now i would have triple boot Manjaro, Popos and win11 as backup.
I have used Ubuntu/Debian based distro and then Manjaro (+ Plasma) is my first Arch experience. I have stuck with it for about 6 month, which is actually my longest stay on linux ever. But I have love and hate relationship with Manjaro. I love they what they did updates. And I love AUR. Also, pretty subjective stuff but I also like the name and logo haha. But I also get overwhelmed by manual configs or tweaking stuff when somethig is broken. So I might hop into Pop!_OS in the future.
Very insightful. Loved the end when you explain that you personally use both, Manjaro for production work and Pop OS for writing... but what about gaming ?! 😆
My take is they're both fantastic. If you like apt, Debian or Pop OS If you like pacman, Arch or Manjaro. I prefer APT so I use Pop OS on my main rig, but use manjaro on my laptop
PopOS is probably the best bet if you have one computer you use for a lot of different things (like me). Manjaro is a great option if you have a dedicated system for gaming, and are familiar with terminal. To me though, I really like the stability of PopOS, while still getting a very modern UI that is intuitive and straightforward, and native support for many devices without having to constantly fight with drivers.
My manjaro had an update and it broke my login. Couldn't even use a time shift or recovery to fix it. But it still is a decent os, but I will switch back to pop.
@Killk4809 Yep, I updated my system with Pamac last time and I borked my login screen. I couldn't do anything except for live booting and reinstalling which also allows me to backup my files. Just a note for y'all...
My pop os had a crappy update and it started using 100% of cpu even without anything running. The whole system was freezing up. This was recent, temporarily using Kubuntu
I use Pop OS for my machine learning as it is very easy. It comes preinstalled with Nvidia video drivers, Cuda preinstalled and it is easy to install Cudnn and install tensorflow and other packages needed for my needs. It is also a pleasure to use otherwise and everything is setup to run Steam too, so it is great for gamed if you like to buy your games on Steam.
Do distrubution really matter in the end tough? I mean, all things can be done on any distrobution and you can get them to look exactly the same. For me they are all the same, just different DE's(sometimes just the theme of these) and different package managers. Some are made easier to use and some come with nothing and are harder to use, but you can still do anything on them. Same same but different.
Been a distro hopper on various Ubuntu based distro but Pop OS! really matches my needs. Even on Gaming, Pop OS! can render 3d models without any lags unlike on my experiences on the other Ubuntu based distro.
Thank you for this video! I’ve been hoping for years that another option besides windows and mac would become available for general daily usage. I have known about linux for many years but always felt it wouldn’t be realistic to use as a daily driver. I finally installed Pop OS onto my laptop this weekend and i absolutely LOVE IT. I’m so ready to be done with Windows and all of its intrusive, shady practices. Very cool to see that we finally have other options!!!
Manjaro's easy to customize any way you want. PopOS is really user friendly but you need some tweaking to customize. They're both stable but manjaro requires little bit more tweaking and some command line to run some applications. I used both but stick to manjaro because of the easy customization.
POP is really nice. Its beautiful. Its Stable. It uses APT and DPKG, so learning POP OS will give transferable skills which can be used for a job. Let be honest, the majority of people who use linux for something that isnt an actually in productioin , or are trying to learn linux, do it to gain skills for a career. Using manjaro uses a package manager that is rarely, if ever, used in enterprise environments. Those skills will not be transferable to a job. with that said, I used fedora as my main OS. Its stable, has nice features and with FC34, I can use KDE with it. It uses rpm and dnf .
@@psyno1856 red hat or a spin-off of it. You want something that uses yum/dnf and rpm. If you can’t get redhat then you can use alma Linux or rocky Linux. Pop OS is a derivative of Ubuntu. Ubuntu uses a different package manager then red hat and also uses a few different config files. Many corporations run red hat on their servers so when learning Linux for a job , you’d be best served by learning red hat.
I also heard that pop OS is the best distro for web developers. At the moment, I just installed MX linux KDE and it's nice but I cannot get my development stuff to work with it, lost half a day and it still will not work. It works fine with ubuntu, bodhi, and many others that's I've used in the past. Greate video man! New subscriber here.
I was a big ubuntu fan, But on my new laptop, ubuntu and all all debian based distros like POP OS installer simply hanged so I tried manjaro and that came with lots of issues but with a simpole system upgrade everything just became bug free and fantastic and AUR is something that will pull me from switching away from Manjaro and yeah I switched to Manjaro beacuse of Gnome desktop environment. I just love it. :)
@@GetGood5 but that doesn't explain why you need to reconfigure something. Ive used manjaro for over a year and never needed to reconfigure something. The worst case was a new kernel update and I just swapped to the previous one. That's literally it. No reconfiguring
@@duckmeat4674 I believe you. Maybe I used the wrong word, but the gist of it was that I don't like having to adjust things once I have it set up. It's not a problem with Manjaro. It's just me.
I found the Pop OS! version that comes with the Nvidia Drivers to be very resource hungry on my system. And this was on an ASUS Rog g75vx i7 2.40GHz quadcore with hyperthreading, 32gb ram, and booting from an SSD. Oh, and when I switched the desktop from that god awful Gnome3 to xfce (via the command line), the OS was buggy on boot and the screen had lines and whatnot. Making it (seem) unusable. Im not faulting it all to the OS, I'm sure I could have worked out the issues if I spent more time with it but Im not really one renown for my patience with such things. My gear: Asus Rog G75VX, Intel Core i7-3630QM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670MX (3GB GDDR5), 32gb ram, SSD, etc.
I just recently switched to Linux and I’m using manjaro so far absolutely no crashes or glitches for about 2 weeks But maybe if it starts having major issues I’ll checkout pop os
I wish I’d have seen this five months ago! I’ve installed many distressed during the same time and have come down to these two.. I’m running both now on separate machines.
At 5:44 you say that Manjaro has architect DE. Architech on Manjaro is not a desktop environenemt, it's an installation wizard allowing you to install Manjaro in any configuration you want. You can choose from any DE, file system, software, etc... And you're comparing Manjaro XFCE to Pop'OS (gnome), If you choose Manjaro Gnome you will have the exact level of customization and if you take Majaro KDE then you're customization will be to the roof.
I really liked pop OS but the sound issues were too much to deal with and after struggling without any sound for a week and constantly searching the internet for fixes that didn't work anyway, I decided to switch over to Manjaro. Manjaro had no sound problems and it installed flawlessly without any problems. But I still couldn't find any working solutions to the sound problems in Pop OS. Another thing to mention is that I recently switched over to linux from windows and I am by no means a linux veteran, which made solving issues like this much harder. But so far, I haven't got any issues with Manjaro.
I used Pop OS for a while as my first linux distro, but I HATE Gnome and other desktops were messy to use in Pop OS, which only officially supports Gnome. I also had several annoying graphical bugs with Pop OS. Manjaro in KDE Plasma is perfect for me with gaming and regular use. Plus the AUR kicks ass! Protip: If you're using Manjaro for gaming, consider this before thinking of using XFCE. If you turn off mouse acceleration in XFCE, it will slow your cursor down, and there is no mouse cursor speed option to speed the cursor back up without acceleration. I think KDE is best.
I would personally prefer PopOS, but the only reason really is because it has full access to the ubuntu repositories. I have changed the desktop env on my PopOS install. If manjaro was based on Ubuntu and had access to ubuntu repos then I would choose it any day, Let's be real. A lot of linux applications being developed today still focus on ubuntu, which means that having an OS based off of it can be very beneficial.
Pop!_OS is great but i found a lot of problems with it on my Sons(9 years) game PC, so in the end i give him a USB with Manjaro and 22 mins after he was playing any of he's steam games and now it has been 2 years without any problem on Manjaro, before Linux he have Windows and WINDOWS BREAK ever week, or need a video driver or from thing
Awesome video, I tried both and I must admit, manjaro crushing over updates is really something that drives me mad sometimes... BUT isn't KDE their flagship? You mention XFCE but I was sure it was KDE EDIT: I have OpenSuse as may main distro but also have installed Pop_OS for few things which are easier on Debian or exist there easier to install, while Manjaro because obviously I can use AUR and test some bleeding edge stuff, so I live both and again they are super good distros depending on your needs, but I still think for "new" people Linux Mint is the way to go and also what I install for them most of time
No, Manjaro's flagship is XFCE. It's right on their website - first one listed. It is their most prized and polished DE of them all. A lot of people still prefer to use XFCE because of how light and nimble it feels.
I've been using Arch based distros for about two years. Started with Antergos, then migrated to vanilla Arch when the project died. Since Arch has a bleeding edge always fresh policy I ran into some issues. When I first used Manjaro (Gnome) I had some personal opinions concerning how they've changed the DE. It seems to me that Gnome is the DE they hated most. Why so many changes? They've practically tried to turn Gnome into some XFCE/KDE hybrid like stuff.
Manjaro kde is the best desktop I've heard of even though I've never tried it for myself when I was researching this desktop it has a lot of great features that I don't think Nome has.
like someone else said, if you're on Nvidia and think your machine's too new for full compatibility, just try Pop OS since it's NVIDIA support is solid & mostly automated.
I have to hand it to Manjaro XFCE. Pop is good but I feel far more natural with xfce compared to gnome. Manjaro xfce is beautiful in a minimalistic way.
As a Manjaro developer, I really enjoyed this comparison. Pop os is great, and their tiling extension is the most mature option out there despite its young age. That's why it is in manjaro repositories too, and shipped in the next release of Manjaro gnome edition too. Pop os devs are also really nice to collaborate with.
Thanks you for watching and thank you for all the work you do!
Huuuuge thank you for your kind development efforts and work. Since December last year I'm a happy Manjaro-KDE user and it totally won my heart. I use it on my main desktop and working laptop, too. For me Manjaro is a 100% top one.
Keep up the good work!
thank you kind sir
Really wow I have problem on manjaro when I install wine I get this Dre or has well Vulkan support is incomplete but on any other distro I do not get that error
I bought a System76 laptop last year, which came with PopOS. I immediately scraped for Void for no other reason than that I wanted to try something new. Now, jump to today & I am just exhausted with configuring things myself. I decided to give Pop a shot, and Installed about a month ago. I am truly impressed. Out of the box, things worked perfectly (expected as I have a system76 machine). The gnome-based DE is just beautiful, snappy & a joy to look at and use. I'm also loving their tiling window manager; it brings me back to the custom tiling WM I had on my other linux boxes. Now, sure, with Pop's default apt pkg manager, I'm missing a few things and packages have a higher chance of being outdated; but, If i need a package that doesn't exist, or if the package version in apt is outdated, then I'll just use linuxbrew to install. I am super happy with Pop and even prefer using it over my Mac work machine lol.
Is it sad im switching from manjaro gnome to manjaro lxqt kwin?
Ah yes, manjaro architect ...
Arch with 50% the struggle
Might just installing vanilla arch
Now that it's not being maintained anymore, I'd say it's 66,6%. Not knowing what to do to actually make it work exactly the expected way makes you want to make deals with satan.
I love how anthony from ltt is becoming more of an important figure in the linux community than freakin linus torvalds😂
His last name is tips but ik it's easy to get confused
the fact that LTT hasn't given Anthony a Linux series is a crime.
@@amb600cd0 the linus on LTT is a different linus. linus torvalds is the man who created the linux kernel.
@@RagingInsomniac went a bit over your head
How is that relevant to this video?
Good one! My limited gravitated me more towards Pop Os and I've been enjoying it ever since!
Pop!_OS has been a great OS for me, in fact my first distro ever! Good for beginners like me and good for gaming too! I also like the fact that it comes with drivers out of the box, super friendly
Just want your opinion on something:
I just have one desktop and I want to switch from windows to linux but i don't lnow too much about it. I also game a little bit like maybe 2 times a week and I've seen that gaming is not on windows level yet. Pther than that i just browse(e.g YT, and other stuff). I watch shows and movies a lot(Netflix). So would ypu recommend the switch from windows to linux or not?
I have tried PopOS as a live usb in a laptop with 2 graphic cards ,nvidia 1650 and Radeon ,but IT doesnt appear wireless,what should I do?
Also what software should I install in order to play Windows games ,especially older Windows games that are not playable in Windows 10 cause are too old ?
@@daniahmed I also have one gaming desktop, and have made the switch 100%. I think the deciding factor for me was if the games I wanted would work or not. I would check on ProtonDB to see how well they work either natively on linux or through the proton layer. Gaming was the only thing holding me back from the switch, and turns out that it has progressed leaps and bounds in the last year even. Hopefully that helps you figure out if its worth it for you
Manjaro also comes with drivers put of the box, it's literally the first thing you see when booting into it
@@daniahmed Yes, Linux is actually very good for web browsing. I'd say it's superior in many ways, especially pertaining to security. Gaming is pretty much flawless, I use Steam to manage my library and the only games I really _can't_ get to work are using some tier 0 (root authority) anti-cheat. Whatever you do, especially if you're new, make sure you use an application like TimeShift. It's a very good tool that is akin to system restore on Windows.
To switch from Windows to Linux, I switched to pop-os, love it since 6months I discovered it.
Same, it's amazing!
Add/Remove Software has an actual name, it's called Pamac.
from what i remember this isnt the same on all the desktop environment options available though.
@@supremedeity9003 ...all versions of manjaro come with pamac and the GUI application is called Add/Remove Software, but it's part of pamac
i see.. i thought octopi was used in some distributions but seems that was a thing of the past then.
@@supremedeity9003 octopi still exists but no longer comes with the distro
@@raeedibnzaman1 Exactly, they ditched Octopi in favor of Pamac
Thank you. Pop has been my favourite distro since 17.10 and I run it on various boxes.
Great comparison, keep up the great work! I'm also a Manjaro KDE user and I love it. I might try POP OS on my back up laptop one of these days.
As a choice between the two I've always leaned more towards an arch experience which is why for me anyway Manjaro provides the best out of the box setup and gives me a hassle free instant arch system. Most Ubuntu systems feel a little restricted in the sense that if you want something specific you have to tweak, download a new repository and so on just to get what you want to work. Manjaro just let's you do what you need to and is miles more bleeding edge with newer kernels helped by the kernel tool😁. I think it does just come down to what you prefer, some like fedora, some like Ubuntu, some Slackware but for me Arch will always be top.
*_i use arch btw_*
Pop! was a godsend on my dual-graphics laptop. It usually froze when trying to so much as install any distro, but Pop! installed fine and worked like a charm. I prefer Manjaro as a daily driver on my gaming rig, but highly recommend Pop! to those that may have the same issues I had with my dual-graphics laptop.
If you run Manjaro, run a backup of your system configuration (e.g., using Timeshift) before applying updates. Also, run updates frequently. The longer you go between updates, the more the risk of something breaking increases. One time I went 2 or 3 months without updating Manjaro. When I finally did update it, it was completely borked. I could not even chroot into it.
This
@SNES Nes 😂🤔😩
why would one want to run a OS that may be fucked up by an update at any moment?
@@francescom2027 because we like rolling release and to have the latest and greatest packages
So it's like windows but doesn't run adobe stuff
Like manjaro but use pop, for stability and ease of use
Manjaro has all of these, what are you on about?
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I for one am enjoying Manjaro with the Cinnamon DE, feels like I'm running Linux Mint but it's better having the AUR and not having to store a bunch of PPA's to keep up to date software packages.
@Major Gear It's a single large repoository maintained by the Arch community, it's got a very large collection of packages for just about anything you could ever need on the off chance your distros official and community repos don't have something you need. For example I have a Canon MG 2400 printer (old printer) that didn't work on linux for some reason. I found out I needed a certain driver that wasn't in the manjaro repos but it was available on the AUR (Arch User Respository) luckily.
@Major Gear aur repo has every app from every distro converted for arch. And mostly you dont have to worry about what drivers or libraries you're missing. Best example would be installing amd opencl drivers for dual GPU's is a nightmare. On pacman they have a amd opencl package after installing both GPU's work. Otherwise only one gpu works from amd website. And most importantly it updates automatically, and never breaks on kernel update. On fedora and ubuntu amdgpu drivers always broke on kernel update.
Old video but I wanted to let you know, your videos helped me pick a distro after a while of struggling to find one for me.
As a gamer I took a liking to the concept of pop os, though I had a bit of trouble getting comfortable with it. I switched to Manjaro an I love it so much
That intro joke killed me.
0:10 - This one? Lol. Yeah it was great.
I am a linux newbie and just came back from a video of the person you1ve showed with a red cross (0:15). Why are people hating on him? He is quite informative
- Bleeding edge software: Install via pop shop as flatpak. It is maintained by flathub which does a good job releasing new versions. The original project authors are often involved. You can also use Linuxbrew to install bleeding edge software from source.
- Long term support: Pop has the faster release version too. LTS is only recommended for people who want extreme stability and don't mind old packages.
- Pop is not gnome dependent. You can super easily swap desktop environment with 1 command and 1 click. First sudo apt install the environment you want (system76 has an article about this). Then (without configuring anything) just log out and click a drop down on the login screen to select another environment. You can easily swap between desktop environments at any time.
Thank you for your clear and concise comparisons of these two distros. I am relatively new to Linux but have been around the block quite a few times with Windoze PC builds (been building systems since 1996) and have rarely been satisfied with any Microsoft OS - hated MSDOS and still do but can work with it if I have to, the early MS Windows 1-Me were horrible, I got along with XP and 7, 8 was a horrifying nightmare and 10 can't decide what the hell it wants to be. I got my wifi software ripped to shreds by the May 2020 update and it's been downhill ever since. I have now gotten into Raspberry Pi SBCs and am enjoying the Rasbian based OSs but I would like to work with some beefier Linux distros and finally LEARN how to code and work with the non-GUI interfaces like a grown-up guy! Gosh darn it!
I am converting a two year old Dell Inspiron 17 (AMD Ryzen 3 with Radeon Vega Gfx, 8 gigs of RAM, 1 terabyte HD - which I recently broke) into a Linux machine. I've already installed a 500 GB M.2 SSD for the boot drive and replaced the broken HD with a 256 GB SSD for extra storage and adding 8 more gigs of RAM. NOW I know what Linux OS I want, thanks to you. Have subscribed and glad I did!
How's it been?
I've been using Manjaro KDE for some time and love it. It's rock solid and stable. The few minor issues I experienced I was able to fix on my own as the documentation & user community for Manjaro is top notch. I have tried PopOS few times, but prefer the Manjaro over the two. Personal preference I guess.
Since you have used both Manjaro and PopOS, can I ask you some questions ?
the difference between the two
Which one uses least resources while still not being boring ?
Which one is user friendly for a noob ?
Which one is faster ? [Very important]
Also, do all Linux distros support all Linux softwares and IDEs ?
@Faris Yusof Thanks bro.
I love my Manjaro KDE, wouldnt trade it for Pop OS in any case at all
Manjaro KDE is solid.
I also love Manjaro KDE after I riced it with i3wm
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As a Manjaro KDE User myself this is a great compareson. I've been using Manjaro for School Work and Gaming and Had 0 crashes which i can't say about windows
@gghhkm for safety i am installing 2 kernel...
So difficult to pick.
Manjaro Xfce, is perfect. So fast, so complete, with all the Arch goodness without any of its pitfalls.
Pop!_OS is so refined and easy to use out of the box. Only criticism would be that there’s too many keyboard shortcuts to memorise to really be productive
NOTE: Add/Remove software really is just Pamac, so you can get that from the AUR if you need that.
I used to run Pop. It was my favorite until the latest version used up so much ram I ditched it for Ubuntu. Ubuntu's theme is by far the best. But left it due to so many errors and problems with it. Went to Manjaro i3wm with gaps, Polybar, and Alacritty terminal. Takes a long time to configure but I really like it and keep going back to it when I want to try something else. I also tried Manjaro XFCE and love it as well. I've never liked XFCE before but all the bugs and screen tearing are fixed now. This is my order of favorites: Manjaro i3wm, XFCE, Gnome, Cinnamon, KDE.
i tried Pop OS a few years back and had major issues adding custom Repos and GPG Keys, it was just insane to get a third party repo going but i installed Manjaro and everything worked, the AUR worked, and i got the software i needed in a few minutes, just my experience.
Just a note, im not saying Pop OS is bad, i can see for new users how amazing it is, and how simple it is, but manjaro's AUR and accessibility was more for me personally so just want to share my experience.
OpenSUSE Should be recommended more as well. Its so underrated
Mmm, gotta love that smooth 60FPS camera footage :D
Love your tutorials on Ardour 🔥
@@aranyadas5919 Thank you!
I tried several Linux based OS’ recently; so far Manjaro with KDE Plasma is working the best. I haven’t much cared for Gnome but perhaps a “pre-tweeked” version like Pop OS would work. We shall see when my new computer is built.
I am running Vanilla Arch on my System 76 Galago Pro. I ran into some problems with Pop. I use i3, so a lot of the things people like about Pop just don't help me at all. Manjaro is a nice distro, but I prefer to build my own system and use the regular Arch repos. You did a fine job in comparing them. Both are great
As a PopOS user myself, you forgot the most important thing. You can tell people "I use Arch BTW". I'm sorry I had to 😂
And I don't mean that as an insult, it's just funny
I love LMG Anthony. subscribed for the hella good meme.
Anthony is truly a respectable person in linux community
2020 might not be a year any of us wants to remember, but honestly-- this is the year of tech. So many tech launches, games, etc. I made the 24/7 switch to Arch earlier this year, leaving windows forever on my main rig. If I had to argue, honestly, I think 2020 is the year of the gnu Linux operating system. So many good options, and gaming friendly these days thanks to the efforts of Steam and Lutris. I've got a 2020 Acer Nitro 5 laptop on the way that will see mostly mobile use, and this sells it for me-- as much as I'd love to run Manjaro on it, I'd rather not eat my phones (will use tethered for internet access) data plan downloading updates all the time. Thanks for the video!
PopOS is awesome for making a big shift for gaming on Linux, super simple out of the box experience. This could increase Linux usage biggest reason for not leaving windows is gaming. I also like that they also do hardware. I know the Linux community wants to keep things hidden from the consumer side of things but i wanna see it get more notice and start getting attention of commercial apps & support to be a full replacement
Great comparison! Keep it up the great work. I’m also Manjaro Xfce user and love it.
we need that pop tiling manager in all manjaro DEs
i can confirm for gnome. idk bout others tho.
Just install i3 or awesome wm lol
Gnome it works popshell , but not as good as pop os
Love both but using PopOs just for the out of the box shortcuts for productivity, I don't even need to use the mouse to navigate and this without installing tiling managers, writing configs, etc...
i love both of them 🤩...i use kde for manjaro...looks pretty hi tech and it should..as manjaro is considered "bleeding edge" ...also the forum is very helpful and friendly...from the other hand Pop Os is pretty smooth fast and has amazing amd powerful hardware support (thanks system 76!) I think this two distros will become mainstream soon as windows can't Keep up with open software..when gaming comes to Linux .... it's over...is just a matter of time
Manjaro is first Linux I enjoy using. It is in my main rig now.
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I use to love Manjaro, I've used it for about 5 months. I don't do system wide changes, i used it mainly for watching, listening to music and artworks and some video editing on Kdenlive. Until recently it gave me headache, unstable symptoms, like turning off suddenly and various other things. Also it boots slow overtime ( i don't use snap), i use regular hdd but pop!_os boots faster, i'm on 2nd week, so far i 'm loving it!
I'm on Pop! rn lmao, love it and don't plan to change ever again
Manjaro kde for but Pop!_Os is great too!
Using Manjaro right now and love it. I have 3 desktops attached to it which are gnome, cinnamon, and KDE. I switch depending on how I feel. Currently using gnome because of the snow extension that falls down the screen. Gnome seems more like a better desktop when it comes to adding different features in a simple way with extensions. I don't mind arch and just know that when using the terminal I have to use "sudo pacman -S" to install apps instead of the "sudo apt install" of pop os. I am i young Linux who has been using it for the past 10 years or so but still learning as I go along. I love pop since i first started using it in the early days. If i had a big enough hard drive and I could do more than the dual boot i have now i would have triple boot Manjaro, Popos and win11 as backup.
1:26 coffee is the most important member.
I have used Ubuntu/Debian based distro and then Manjaro (+ Plasma) is my first Arch experience. I have stuck with it for about 6 month, which is actually my longest stay on linux ever. But I have love and hate relationship with Manjaro.
I love they what they did updates. And I love AUR. Also, pretty subjective stuff but I also like the name and logo haha.
But I also get overwhelmed by manual configs or tweaking stuff when somethig is broken.
So I might hop into Pop!_OS in the future.
I used Pop os almost a year and was great, now in manjaro. Right now I prefer manjaro :D
Very insightful. Loved the end when you explain that you personally use both, Manjaro for production work and Pop OS for writing... but what about gaming ?! 😆
My take is they're both fantastic.
If you like apt, Debian or Pop OS
If you like pacman, Arch or Manjaro.
I prefer APT so I use Pop OS on my main rig, but use manjaro on my laptop
PopOS is probably the best bet if you have one computer you use for a lot of different things (like me). Manjaro is a great option if you have a dedicated system for gaming, and are familiar with terminal. To me though, I really like the stability of PopOS, while still getting a very modern UI that is intuitive and straightforward, and native support for many devices without having to constantly fight with drivers.
I installed POP!_OS 20.10 on my T450s and it works like a charm. Even installed KDE PLASMA on it...UBUNTU done right...✅
My manjaro had an update and it broke my login. Couldn't even use a time shift or recovery to fix it. But it still is a decent os, but I will switch back to pop.
@Killk4809 Yep, I updated my system with Pamac last time and I borked my login screen. I couldn't do anything except for live booting and reinstalling which also allows me to backup my files. Just a note for y'all...
My pop os had a crappy update and it started using 100% of cpu even without anything running. The whole system was freezing up. This was recent, temporarily using Kubuntu
I'm a happy user of ZorinOS. Works like a charm.
I use Pop OS for my machine learning as it is very easy. It comes preinstalled with Nvidia video drivers, Cuda preinstalled and it is easy to install Cudnn and install tensorflow and other packages needed for my needs. It is also a pleasure to use otherwise and everything is setup to run Steam too, so it is great for gamed if you like to buy your games on Steam.
Do distrubution really matter in the end tough? I mean, all things can be done on any distrobution and you can get them to look exactly the same. For me they are all the same, just different DE's(sometimes just the theme of these) and different package managers. Some are made easier to use and some come with nothing and are harder to use, but you can still do anything on them. Same same but different.
I guess some stuff i shard to implement in every distro.. like the concept of qubes OS and so on
Been a distro hopper on various Ubuntu based distro but Pop OS! really matches my needs. Even on Gaming, Pop OS! can render 3d models without any lags unlike on my experiences on the other Ubuntu based distro.
Thank you for this video! I’ve been hoping for years that another option besides windows and mac would become available for general daily usage. I have known about linux for many years but always felt it wouldn’t be realistic to use as a daily driver. I finally installed Pop OS onto my laptop this weekend and i absolutely LOVE IT. I’m so ready to be done with Windows and all of its intrusive, shady practices. Very cool to see that we finally have other options!!!
Manjaro's easy to customize any way you want. PopOS is really user friendly but you need some tweaking to customize. They're both stable but manjaro requires little bit more tweaking and some command line to run some applications. I used both but stick to manjaro because of the easy customization.
POP is really nice. Its beautiful. Its Stable. It uses APT and DPKG, so learning POP OS will give transferable skills which can be used for a job.
Let be honest, the majority of people who use linux for something that isnt an actually in productioin , or are trying to learn linux, do it to gain skills for a career.
Using manjaro uses a package manager that is rarely, if ever, used in enterprise environments. Those skills will not be transferable to a job.
with that said, I used fedora as my main OS. Its stable, has nice features and with FC34, I can use KDE with it. It uses rpm and dnf .
which linux os would you recommend to start working with, in regards to industry relevance ?
@@psyno1856 red hat or a spin-off of it. You want something that uses yum/dnf and rpm. If you can’t get redhat then you can use alma Linux or rocky Linux.
Pop OS is a derivative of Ubuntu. Ubuntu uses a different package manager then red hat and also uses a few different config files.
Many corporations run red hat on their servers so when learning Linux for a job , you’d be best served by learning red hat.
@@human151 hey thanks for the reply, I will definitely look into it. but I think I ought to satiate my curiousity by trying MX linux first.
I actually had this same dilemma two years ago and went with manjaro as i had amd video card. Never had a problem till today.
Add/Remove software is actually pamac which can be used from CLI as well unlike pop shop.
I also heard that pop OS is the best distro for web developers. At the moment, I just installed MX linux KDE and it's nice but I cannot get my development stuff to work with it, lost half a day and it still will not work. It works fine with ubuntu, bodhi, and many others that's I've used in the past.
Greate video man! New subscriber here.
I was a big ubuntu fan, But on my new laptop, ubuntu and all all debian based distros like POP OS installer simply hanged so I tried manjaro and that came with lots of issues but with a simpole system upgrade everything just became bug free and fantastic and AUR is something that will pull me from switching away from Manjaro and yeah I switched to Manjaro beacuse of Gnome desktop environment. I just love it. :)
I use manjaro and it runs like a charm.
Thanks for video. I'd recommend you add a low cut filter on your audio to remove the background hum.
Nice comparison. For me it comes down to Manjaro: cutting edge=needs to be configured more often. And PopOS: Install and get to work.
Why do you need to configure something more often on bleeding edge?
@@duckmeat4674 Things change more often, so more adjusting things to make them work when broken
@@GetGood5 but that doesn't explain why you need to reconfigure something. Ive used manjaro for over a year and never needed to reconfigure something. The worst case was a new kernel update and I just swapped to the previous one. That's literally it. No reconfiguring
@@duckmeat4674 I believe you. Maybe I used the wrong word, but the gist of it was that I don't like having to adjust things once I have it set up. It's not a problem with Manjaro. It's just me.
Thanks for this, have used pop os but I always seem to go back to Manjaro kde
I need my continual app updates, and I need my Plasma. Cannot live without them.
PopOS is great but I switched to Manjaro for personal preference and the rolling release. Both are amazing distros.
Be ready for packages (software) to break if you live on the edge. :)
I found the Pop OS! version that comes with the Nvidia Drivers to be very resource hungry on my system. And this was on an ASUS Rog g75vx i7 2.40GHz quadcore with hyperthreading, 32gb ram, and booting from an SSD.
Oh, and when I switched the desktop from that god awful Gnome3 to xfce (via the command line), the OS was buggy on boot and the screen had lines and whatnot. Making it (seem) unusable.
Im not faulting it all to the OS, I'm sure I could have worked out the issues if I spent more time with it but Im not really one renown for my patience with such things.
My gear:
Asus Rog G75VX, Intel Core i7-3630QM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670MX (3GB GDDR5), 32gb ram, SSD, etc.
I just recently switched to Linux and I’m using manjaro so far absolutely no crashes or glitches for about 2 weeks But maybe if it starts having major issues I’ll checkout pop os
I wish I’d have seen this five months ago! I’ve installed many distressed during the same time and have come down to these two.. I’m running both now on separate machines.
At 5:44 you say that Manjaro has architect DE. Architech on Manjaro is not a desktop environenemt, it's an installation wizard allowing you to install Manjaro in any configuration you want. You can choose from any DE, file system, software, etc... And you're comparing Manjaro XFCE to Pop'OS (gnome), If you choose Manjaro Gnome you will have the exact level of customization and if you take Majaro KDE then you're customization will be to the roof.
For gaming Voyager GE , (ubuntu based or debian 10) , manjaro and pop OS !.
The best low maintenence distro for beginners is vanilla Debian. The best bleeding edge for more advanced users with newer hardware is vanilla Arch.
Very good video and just what I was looking for.
Ill choose manjaro
I really liked pop OS but the sound issues were too much to deal with and after struggling without any sound for a week and constantly searching the internet for fixes that didn't work anyway, I decided to switch over to Manjaro. Manjaro had no sound problems and it installed flawlessly without any problems. But I still couldn't find any working solutions to the sound problems in Pop OS.
Another thing to mention is that I recently switched over to linux from windows and I am by no means a linux veteran, which made solving issues like this much harder. But so far, I haven't got any issues with Manjaro.
I used Pop OS for a while as my first linux distro, but I HATE Gnome and other desktops were messy to use in Pop OS, which only officially supports Gnome. I also had several annoying graphical bugs with Pop OS. Manjaro in KDE Plasma is perfect for me with gaming and regular use. Plus the AUR kicks ass!
Protip: If you're using Manjaro for gaming, consider this before thinking of using XFCE. If you turn off mouse acceleration in XFCE, it will slow your cursor down, and there is no mouse cursor speed option to speed the cursor back up without acceleration. I think KDE is best.
The quick Anthony clip had me in stitches😂👏🙏
arch actually can be used as os for newbie, just installation may be weird for new user
I'm just sick of toggle switches. What happened to check boxes?
I feel you! Sometimes it isn't clear if something is on or off
Both are the best Linux distro I've ever used
Would like to see you do a review of Pop! OS when they come out with their new Cosmic desktop.
yo uso manjaro y estoy feliz por ello, desde la primera vez me enamore de esta distro, y prove muchas
I would personally prefer PopOS, but the only reason really is because it has full access to the ubuntu repositories. I have changed the desktop env on my PopOS install. If manjaro was based on Ubuntu and had access to ubuntu repos then I would choose it any day, Let's be real. A lot of linux applications being developed today still focus on ubuntu, which means that having an OS based off of it can be very beneficial.
Pop!_OS is great but i found a lot of problems with it on my Sons(9 years) game PC, so in the end i give him a USB with Manjaro and 22 mins after he was playing any of he's steam games and now it has been 2 years without any problem on Manjaro, before Linux he have Windows and WINDOWS BREAK ever week, or need a video driver or from thing
very interesting video and you are really a polite and nice guy.
Awesome video, I tried both and I must admit, manjaro crushing over updates is really something that drives me mad sometimes... BUT isn't KDE their flagship? You mention XFCE but I was sure it was KDE
EDIT: I have OpenSuse as may main distro but also have installed Pop_OS for few things which are easier on Debian or exist there easier to install, while Manjaro because obviously I can use AUR and test some bleeding edge stuff, so I live both and again they are super good distros depending on your needs, but I still think for "new" people Linux Mint is the way to go and also what I install for them most of time
No, Manjaro's flagship is XFCE. It's right on their website - first one listed. It is their most prized and polished DE of them all. A lot of people still prefer to use XFCE because of how light and nimble it feels.
I've been using Arch based distros for about two years. Started with Antergos, then migrated to vanilla Arch when the project died. Since Arch has a bleeding edge always fresh policy I ran into some issues. When I first used Manjaro (Gnome) I had some personal opinions concerning how they've changed the DE. It seems to me that Gnome is the DE they hated most. Why so many changes? They've practically tried to turn Gnome into some XFCE/KDE hybrid like stuff.
I am using Fedora i think is it one of the best gnome linux .
The Coffee on the Manjaro Website Killed me 😂😂
@Aditya Bhattacharya really? 😂😂😂
First tried ubuntu but then it was unstable as hell on new generation processors(10th gen i5 processor) , switched to manjaro best decision I made
That Anthony joke killed me😂😂😂
Installed pop os with xanmod increase frame rates and stunning extreme graphics pop
Manjaro kde is the best desktop I've heard of even though I've never tried it for myself when I was researching this desktop it has a lot of great features that I don't think Nome has.
Wonderful Anthony cameo. Well played
like someone else said, if you're on Nvidia and think your machine's too new for full compatibility, just try Pop OS since it's NVIDIA support is solid & mostly automated.
but Manjaro would probably be fine too!
I have to hand it to Manjaro XFCE. Pop is good but I feel far more natural with xfce compared to gnome. Manjaro xfce is beautiful in a minimalistic way.