VW XL1 | Fully Charged

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

Комментарии • 135

  • @mulreay
    @mulreay 10 лет назад +39

    My right ear loved this.
    But my left hated it..

  • @MakeSteelBattalion2
    @MakeSteelBattalion2 10 лет назад +13

    Can we get the unedited version of the test drive? 8 minutes does not do justice to such an extraordinary car!

  • @knoxieman
    @knoxieman 10 лет назад

    Great to see you back and great to see you being supported by Ecotricity as well, looking forward to the upcoming videos

  • @krimke881
    @krimke881 3 года назад +2

    I still. cannot understand why they are not building more of this. I need one.

  • @stevefambro189
    @stevefambro189 10 лет назад +1

    Very cool! This was the vehicle that inspired me to start Aptera when the first prototypes came out in 2005.

  • @zikzakfr
    @zikzakfr 10 лет назад +21

    The sound is terrible until the episode is filmed onboard, else only the right channel is used. Quite weird.

  • @robinyates9426
    @robinyates9426 10 лет назад

    welcome back Robert, I'm looking forward to this series

  • @JeaneGenie
    @JeaneGenie 10 лет назад

    Great to see the show back, always enjoy these.

  • @nicevideomancanada
    @nicevideomancanada 10 лет назад +1

    I am glad you came back with another season Robert. And I am glad to see more companies introducing electric cars. However, so far my favorite electric car is the Tesla model S. It's not a limited version like this VW and it seats more and costs less and also doesn't burn any fossil fuels at all. It still costs too much for me though. Maybe I'll be able to afford one when I finish my 3 year college course in Energy Systems Engineering Technologies a Renewable Energy Engineering course.

  • @johannes914
    @johannes914 10 лет назад +12

    Return of the one eared editor ...

  • @margannaful
    @margannaful 10 лет назад

    That giddy laugh at 5:11! Awww,He really LOVES his job!

  • @DrKlausReichert
    @DrKlausReichert 2 года назад

    the VW XL1 is one of my favorite cars - had the chance to drive one a few years ago

  • @puggle63
    @puggle63 10 лет назад

    Welcome back, great first episode

  • @100MPG
    @100MPG 7 лет назад +4

    Best car tested on fullycharged! Shame about the price!

  • @moreboost
    @moreboost 10 лет назад

    I like the idea that he can do a video intro in his garage. :) Personal and down to earth.

  • @IanYatesDude
    @IanYatesDude 10 лет назад +3

    Good episode, however all the audio from the first half with the pieces to camera have distorted audio which (for me at least) is also largely shifted to the right ear.

  • @Fillbe
    @Fillbe 10 лет назад +2

    I like to imagine that the cut at 'Screen Wash' masks a 37 minute rant about screen wash.

  • @heatleynoble
    @heatleynoble 10 лет назад

    How are the batteries holding up in your leaf Robert? Are they worth a second hand buy?

  • @TVFILMBUFF
    @TVFILMBUFF 10 лет назад

    Love your vids Robert. Looking forward to the new series.
    Seems like the sound was a bit off at the start. Was only getting your voice properly through the right channel with the left channel very muted.

  • @docgalen
    @docgalen 10 лет назад +1

    I love Ecotricity! The vox is all on the right channel btw. In case you didn't notice. :P

  • @Mladjasmilic
    @Mladjasmilic 10 лет назад

    It is a true supercar - it has looks , exclusivity , mid-engine layout , price , and it does over 200 MPG instead MPH . Imagine every Ferrari , Lamborghini etc. in Holywood , Monaco or Dubai replaced by this .

  • @essi2
    @essi2 10 лет назад

    HOLY MONO BATMAN! Also, Welcome back!

  • @ChrisMcEvoy72
    @ChrisMcEvoy72 10 лет назад +1

    Great to see this back - but please fix the audio for the next one - dialogue is only coming through the right channel... ;)

  • @DC_Aviation_Daily
    @DC_Aviation_Daily 9 лет назад +7

    of all the questions i have about this car the biggest one of them all is was this car affected by the emission scandal?

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 8 лет назад +1

      No there simply wasn't enough dealer orders and customer demand because the price was ludicrously high. VW simply had it as a public test for the hybrid system.

    • @100MPG
      @100MPG 7 лет назад +2

      No. Emssions scandal was about old engines VW couldn't sell in EU so they increased Urea injection onn EPA tests that didn't activate on road. BMW X5 diesel passed both without issue becuase it was basically Euro 6 engine. If VW had sold Euro 6 engine to USA there would be no scandal! Both Euro 6 cars beat much sticter Euro 6 emissons targets both on stupid NEDC tests and in real world independant tests. Sadly most media now demonises diesel which could mean we go down an even more polluting route in the future.

  • @AndrewBryantPianoTuner
    @AndrewBryantPianoTuner 10 лет назад

    The sound is working perfectly, but a decent set of speakers

    • @paulekstorm-hughes1894
      @paulekstorm-hughes1894 10 лет назад +13

      No, it isn't. only the intro is stereo and from 3:50 onwards. The dialogue track is only on the right side from 0:17 to 3:50. it's not a "decent speakers" thing it's a "audio not mixed properly" thing. if you're getting dialogue from your left speaker during the affected time then your speakers are only working in mono mode

  • @Jyroskope
    @Jyroskope 10 лет назад

    The Volvo V60 plugin-hybrid actually has a Diesel engine. It's very popular in the Netherlands and in Sweden.

  • @PierreBelance
    @PierreBelance 10 лет назад

    Does the side cameras eliminate the blind spot problem of normal door mirrors with wide angle camera lenses?

  • @BairdJoshua
    @BairdJoshua 10 лет назад +2

    Sounds comes through right speaker, not left. Left is just static.

  • @OllieJonsson
    @OllieJonsson 10 лет назад

    Finally! Great first episode...

  • @zlozlozlo
    @zlozlozlo 10 лет назад

    Took you long enough. Welcome back :)

  • @MatthewWilliamsFly
    @MatthewWilliamsFly 10 лет назад

    Loved the stats at the beginning of the show. Sadly being poor and renting I cant get into this wonderful electric world - it will be nice when the poor can partake of the benefits too. Tell you what tho... Electric pushbikes from the US... 50mph and can do 70 miles! They wheelspin pulling away. Now those the poor can afford! Do a show on those please!!!!

  • @freddotu
    @freddotu 10 лет назад

    It appears that the seating is staggered, likely for narrower cabin aerodynamics. The passenger seat seems to be behind the driver's.

  • @WindyJAMiller
    @WindyJAMiller 10 лет назад

    How many kWh has the Leaf taken to charge over the milage please?

  • @lucasskywalker
    @lucasskywalker 10 лет назад

    Well done old friend!

  • @meals24u
    @meals24u 10 лет назад

    Great vid. Wish we Canadians would get a diesel hybrid some time...

  • @jamesrodrigues7391
    @jamesrodrigues7391 6 лет назад

    Just moved house and hoping to get a second hand leaf it seems the energy company i was using (scottish power) just changed my tariff from 8 pence a kilowatt hour to 18 pence per kilowatt hour the reason of the change is I moved house 650 metres is that right or justified I dont think so maybe i will start to produce my own energy

  • @dashcam55
    @dashcam55 3 года назад

    Where do you put your groceries?

  • @manoman0
    @manoman0 10 лет назад +1

    EREV ist the way to go. GM got it all right.

  • @electrictroy2010
    @electrictroy2010 10 лет назад +1

    (puts on engineering cap).. So why does this EV/diesel car cvost 90,000 euros when the unlimited-range Volt EV only costs ~25,000? Perhaps the high expense is caused by an aluminum body and various magnesium parts? I'd like to see this car produced using steel & iron to make the cost equal the Volt. Even if it only got 200mpg, that's still impressive
    .

  • @markweatherill
    @markweatherill 10 лет назад

    The XL1 reminds me very strongly of a Toyota Sera, at least from the front with the doors up.

  • @BubbaYoga
    @BubbaYoga 10 лет назад

    Great series!

  • @bhapi
    @bhapi 2 года назад

    I wonder how the xl1 would be today with actual technology and fully electric and solar panels like the aptera.

  • @sjbuck
    @sjbuck 10 лет назад

    I know you like saving power, but surely using both channels of sound is mandatory these days? Couldn't listen on headphones with causing a migraine.

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan 8 лет назад +4

    The body looks quite a bit like the EV1.

  • @petersachs764
    @petersachs764 8 лет назад

    should I assume that the lack of a SCR would possibly have qualified this car both as one of the world's most fuel efficient cars as well as a excessive NOx producing Dieselgate vehicle?

  • @kieron82
    @kieron82 5 лет назад

    If they made a centre front seat and two rear seats then it can be sold everywhere in the world, it would be able to take a 2 parent 1 child family (and the dog between the childs legs), one production line and reduced production costs

  • @mitchellsteindler
    @mitchellsteindler 10 лет назад +4

    What really struck me, "8000 miles without burning anything."

    • @schlusselmensch
      @schlusselmensch 10 лет назад +2

      SOMETHING was very likely burned in the production of that electricity!

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler 10 лет назад +1

      Schluesselmensch While absolutely true, the energy transfer of turning any fossil fuel into electricity to be used by an electric vehicle is many times more efficient than the energy transfer in turning fossil fuels into gasoline and your engine turning about 50% of that into forward motion.
      Additionally, I want to share my vision of the not so distant future.
      I imagine houses where the roofing is made of photovoltaic cells. That energy can be used to charge your electric cars and to power your house. Yes there are problems with that vision but science is constantly working to fix problems.

    • @schlusselmensch
      @schlusselmensch 10 лет назад

      Mitchell Steindler We're getting there. Slowly, but getting there. With LED lighting, superinsulation and some decent batteries, a house that runs on solar and wind power is easily buildable these days.

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler 10 лет назад

      Schluesselmensch Not necessarily in all climates though. Some climates are not sunny enough, but clouds do not always mean more wind. There's still a lot of work to be done. But also I was thinking on a more affordable scale than what is currently possible. For example the Tesla Gigafactory is supposed to be 100% energy independent, but you know the Muskador through a ton of money at it.

    • @ronaldderooij1774
      @ronaldderooij1774 10 лет назад +3

      Schluesselmensch No, he explains in the video that those miles were driven on electricity that he generated with his own solar panels. So nothing was burned (unless you mean that something probably had to be burned producing the solar panels).

  • @wolfyweir
    @wolfyweir 10 лет назад

    love the show, would be good if you could do an episode about China's plans to phase in electric vehicles to combat the recent smog problems in their big cities.

  • @UBUYGASCOM
    @UBUYGASCOM 10 лет назад

    When i first saw this car I thought it was the Car from Logan's Run!

  • @pedrolopes5664
    @pedrolopes5664 10 лет назад

    Hi
    Is it really a production car? With a total of 250 cars built isn't it more a "small series" prototype?
    On another tone: we were promised electric cars efficient and cheap to run and I'm getting this feeling that the great advantage of electric cars, their efficiency, less moving parts, less prone to failures/repair and very low cost maintenance, switches the benefits from the seller to the buyer/user and this is the main reason electric cars will take a lot longer to establish their "dominance" compared to ICE; traditional car builders are used to huge profits on after sales: not only very regular maintenance costs but also repair costs; with the electric car you need to change the AC cabin filter and that's it, almost no maintenance costs, no repairs.
    The time car makers figure out a way of keeping the money coming in after the car sale is done, by that time may be we will see lots of affordable electric cars. In my opinion that is the reason some car makers are testing the battery leasing model: do your math and you find out that the annual value of the battery lease is more or less equivalent to the ICE maintenance costs. But Better Place, with that model, went bankrupt, were they too ambitious? What about a move by Renault on their Zoe model that does not enable you to charge from a regular AC plug? Gone is the universal possibility of recharging! What are they up to? And the electric car project by Michelin? Not a car maker, a tire maker, the Michelin project promised a revolution, the wheel, suspension, brake and motor in one piece (do a Google search, you can find the prototype demo, quite impressive); what happened to this project?
    The main point: there is already battery technology to enable better and cheaper batteries, but current installed battery production facilities have to be paid and so the "battery dilemma" is the short term justification for short range capable vehicles that makes the electric car an expensive niche product. Again, the time traditional car makers figure out a way to keep money coming in after the sale, all the problems will miraculously be solved and electric cars will become common place.

  • @GeoStreber
    @GeoStreber 8 лет назад

    Is it an inline engine or a boxer?

    • @edstratton
      @edstratton 4 года назад

      Inline. Literally they cut in half a 4 cyl TDI as found in a VW Golf.

  • @bowtalk
    @bowtalk 10 лет назад

    I am not getting any sound?

  • @apkungen89
    @apkungen89 7 лет назад

    What was the consumption in wh/km?

    • @edstratton
      @edstratton 4 года назад

      The XL1 travels 10 Km on 1 KW/hour. It has a 5.5 Kw battery which is good for 50 Km when forcing the car to drive purely on electric power.

  • @TheJAMF
    @TheJAMF 10 лет назад

    No word on regenerative braking?

  • @TWBrit
    @TWBrit 10 лет назад

    Wow.... that's out there.

  • @nothandmade5833
    @nothandmade5833 10 лет назад

    Did u tell Autocar that you ripped there intro sound?

    • @fullychargedshow
      @fullychargedshow  10 лет назад +21

      I think you'll find that Autocar use the same 'royalty free' music clip that comes with the editing software we both use. It's a common problem. In fact, I'll go further, Autocar ripped off my intro music!

    • @_-_-_-_9407
      @_-_-_-_9407 8 лет назад

      +fullychargedshow you should use AC/DC music...

  • @davidraynorsnow
    @davidraynorsnow 9 лет назад +2

    passenger looked terrified lol

  • @daytimeslacker
    @daytimeslacker 8 лет назад +4

    It looks like GM's old EV1. Which they took back from everyone and destroyed. But never said why.Everyone that used them said they were great.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 8 лет назад +2

      It's just a aerodynamic teardrop design. Hundreds of competition EV cars have been designed this way.

    • @iloveamerica1966
      @iloveamerica1966 5 лет назад +1

      Daytimeslacker
      It's simple: they were pulled from service because battery and charging technology limitations did not make the car desirable to a market large enough to be profitable. Not to mention it would have begun the mass transition to EVs 30-40 years before the oil industry was ready. Would you have have given up 30 years of profits?
      They destroyed all the cars because they didn't want their proprietary technology reverse engineered and stolen like a certain country (or two) we all know tends to do.

  • @johnbenton4488
    @johnbenton4488 9 лет назад

    The one equaliser in all this is the energy used to produce the vehicle in the first place. The bottom line is simple; If you want it, it will cost the environment.

    • @100MPG
      @100MPG 7 лет назад

      Yes but at least this is light weight and uses the least amount of materials unlike SUV PHEVs and heavy pure EVs. However the earlier diesel only design got more mpg than the XL1.

    • @johnbenton4488
      @johnbenton4488 7 лет назад

      You make some excellent points, "100MPG"

  • @JohnMetsn
    @JohnMetsn 3 года назад

    Went through comments and didn't find a single one about Kryton. SAD!

  • @quantum12b
    @quantum12b 9 лет назад

    Nice review ;0) Thanks :0)

  • @JeanPierreWhite
    @JeanPierreWhite 10 лет назад

    Agree with others. The sound is poor in this video. Much of the spoken parts of the video are limited to the right channel.
    Xl1 looks like an interesting car!!

  • @stewbaby23
    @stewbaby23 10 лет назад +1

    sound is on right channel if you've got one headphone in...

  • @MarkKeightley
    @MarkKeightley 10 лет назад

    Is it just me or did the VW guy look really worried all of the time in the car!?
    Surely he wasn't passing comment on your driving.

  • @LouRaX
    @LouRaX 3 года назад

    didnt knew that car exists :D

  • @gtweedie
    @gtweedie 10 лет назад +1

    The sounds not working!!!

  • @justinhaller2055
    @justinhaller2055 6 месяцев назад

    Do you ever look beyond the plug? Not everyone has a garage... 10 years later the only diesel hybrid out there are in trains.

  • @JRo250
    @JRo250 10 лет назад +3

    Great video, Robert. This car is a lame attempt by VW to throw a smoke (literally) curtain and hide the fact that they have zero electric vehicles in production. They are way behind and refuse to come up with something sensible. Why on earth would they spoil a perfectly good EV powertrain with a smelly diesel? Besides, GM and then Honda already did cars just like this so there's nothing groundbreaking here. Tesla had a prototype with side view cameras but were not approved for production by Gov regulators. Yep, nothing but lame sputtering out of VW. Too bad, VWs would be perfect for an all electric drive.

    • @emilenossin5098
      @emilenossin5098 10 лет назад

      VW actually have the e-Golf en e-Up in production now (or any moment now), completely electric.

    • @JRo250
      @JRo250 10 лет назад

      Emile Nossin
      What VW has in production, and is very good at, is a press release. They produce an EV press release seemingly every month. It's always coming, have you noticed? The eGolf is scheduled for Spring of 2015 and likely go to California only to comply with their Gov regulations. VW had an electric car, the Citystromer, since back in the 70s so this isn't new ground for them. They have said they intend to dominate the EV market by 2018. Sure. The thing is VW needs to be in it now and they aren't.

    •  10 лет назад

      JRoque250 www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/VW-E-Up-2013-CAR-review/

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 10 лет назад +1

      Because I have to drive 200 miles a day, I need the "smelly engine" to keep the car running when the pathetic ~70 mile EV would have run out of electric. It's also nice to have a car that can take me 3000 miles from LA to New York, and this L1 car can do it..... no Leaf or Fit EV could ever do that
      .

    • @JRo250
      @JRo250 10 лет назад

      electrictroy2010
      It sounds like you'd do better with a straight diesel. Why carry a bunch of batteries around you will rarely use?

  • @WindyJAMiller
    @WindyJAMiller 10 лет назад

    Sounds a bit odd, only one side

  • @illustriouschin
    @illustriouschin 10 лет назад

    the audio sounds really really bad.

  • @PistonAvatarGuy
    @PistonAvatarGuy 10 лет назад

    I don't normally like VWs because they're absolute junk in the US, but that is one good looking car.

  • @JonathanTracey
    @JonathanTracey 10 лет назад

    Great looking car from the outside but like all VWs its inside looks very 20th century, screen looks like a tom tom from 1990 and not even controls on the steering wheel

  • @desert1able76
    @desert1able76 5 лет назад

    There is no free lunch! Electric power requires something being burned whether from an off-site power supply or the process of making a solar panel or wind turbine. Depending on where you live electric vehicles can actually be more environmentally damaging then a fossil fuel powered vehicles with good fuel mileage. The key is finding the sweet spot in the power generation process.

    • @edstratton
      @edstratton 4 года назад

      Absolutely!! You are so right. The fantastic thing about making the most EFFICIENT production car in the world is that it then uses up less energy per mile than any other, so no matter what the original source of the energy was, the net effect on the environment of getting from A to B is at the minimum damage possible. The whole point of the XL1.

  • @salvadormarley
    @salvadormarley 9 лет назад

    Fucked in a car park with those doors.

    • @100MPG
      @100MPG 7 лет назад

      like Tesla X? Both actually work ok.

    • @edstratton
      @edstratton 4 года назад

      Not so! The opposite is true! Try opening a normal car door to the minimum amount that allows you to squeeze into the car comfortably and measure that amount, then open the XL1 door and you'll see that at no point does it stick out sideways from the car as much as the amount you measured on the normal car.

    • @salvadormarley
      @salvadormarley 4 года назад +1

      Well you learn something new everyday.

  • @bowtalk
    @bowtalk 10 лет назад +1

    sorry - my error !

  • @johnkiene
    @johnkiene 10 лет назад

    Background music could be lower

  • @joshuakeeling1
    @joshuakeeling1 9 лет назад

    Seems a bit pointless now that the model S has better performance, costs less to run and is less expensive to purchase.

    • @100MPG
      @100MPG 7 лет назад

      70% of roadside emissions are from tyres and road surface wear , 30% from tailpipes according to independent UK tests this year. The real issue is weight: 790kg vrs over 2000kg. Tyre contact minimal in this thing. But yes VW is overpriced.

    • @joshuakeeling1
      @joshuakeeling1 7 лет назад

      100MPG hence why I came up with this:
      www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/autocar-courland-next-generation-award-2016-winner-announced

  • @4priusnt
    @4priusnt 10 лет назад

    what is the issue you have voice like the whole thing is muted.................................................................................................................................................

  • @vicosdivicos
    @vicosdivicos 9 лет назад

    passenger made me nervous..

  • @josephbrody3663
    @josephbrody3663 10 лет назад +1

    36,000 Miles in 2 years is a lot of driving for the UK. To be eco is more about conservation, bike riding, walking and transit than driving 3500 lb EV. Its nice to see that he is using solar to offset his fossil fuel burning.
    Even though I have some criticism, I really like electric cars. Yet, so far I dont need one, because I can get anywhere I need to go with a EV to offset a lot of fossil fuel use.
    Producing 200 VW XL1s is not really "production"

  • @fuelenergy1
    @fuelenergy1 10 лет назад

    I think this is a great car but again the MPGs on this car are tricky because it drives on only electric again and it runs diesel. I think the best car ever on the market is the remarkable Toyota Prius and it's synergy drive as well as it's great sister the plug in. I think Prius will deliver us the best of green energy in the future. VW will just keep the good old fahsion european mind of using diesels and add it will a limited range electric motor. Totally agains it, if I want an electric car, I would just buy the leaf: Bigger 5 people in it and quite cute! I wouldnt buy the VW cuz first I hate diesels, I hate the fact that its SUCH a small diesel too , such economies on the cars made and VW still wants to sell it 90,000 pounds. Seriously. I rather buy a 30,000 pound toyota prius plug in with all the tech and way better and amzing ALL EV and great 80 mpg not all ev.

  • @marknquinn
    @marknquinn 10 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing the running costs for your electric car. You quoted roughly £850 per 36000miles, that's 2.4p per mile.
    Its at least 20p per mile for a petrol car according to the AA (see the data at goo.gl/MbdEUu) ... giving a cost of £7200 for the same 36000miles!
    Comparing £850 versus £7200 means you saved at least £6000 over two years!
    £6k !

  • @oojimmyflip
    @oojimmyflip 2 года назад

    make some sugar wash and distil your own screen wash, as long as your not drinking the alcohol you make your not breaking the law. you can colour it with blue food colouring if you want to. plenty of info on you tube how to make it. I wont buy screen wash im not going to pay for water diluted mentholated spirits and soap which often freezes in cold weather.

  • @manuelcarmo22
    @manuelcarmo22 8 лет назад +4

    with that money.... buy a Tesla!!
    100% electric!!

  • @nutzeeer
    @nutzeeer 7 лет назад

    and just like the mercedes concept iaa it will never be produced...

    • @nutzeeer
      @nutzeeer 7 лет назад +1

      appearently i should have watched until minute 2:30 first

  • @maikydb
    @maikydb 10 лет назад +1

    Yay a new fully charged! Only wish you would only focus on real solutions and not the in between's and excuses from the car industry "range extender" "Green Gas" and “range anxiety” Why is it that Tesla can do everything that all car developers say that it cant be done. How is it that Tesla is the only car company without a government loan over the entire world? I know why. They are doing something right and the old school car developers are doing it wrong!
    Anyway the first Formula E is coming closer and closer. And you might remember that the formula industry used to be the top tech of the car industry. But it kept the fossil fuel engine while 25 years ago they already knew that electric would be the better option in f1 racing.

  • @fahmad7194
    @fahmad7194 10 лет назад

    it's a rip-off not a bit expensive

  • @hypervlogz9507
    @hypervlogz9507 5 лет назад

    BUT ITS A DIESEL!!!!!!!

    • @edstratton
      @edstratton 4 года назад

      Yes - diesel is a more efficient fuel than petrol, so they had no choice since the only point of this car is to be as efficient as possible.

  • @schlusselmensch
    @schlusselmensch 10 лет назад

    Your passenger looks like he could have done with about 3,416 less Cornish Pasties haha! Not a car for big lads, or ........Americans?

  • @clonatul1
    @clonatul1 10 лет назад

    Finally

  • @DanFrederiksen
    @DanFrederiksen 10 лет назад

    The glide was impressive unless it was cheating. But alas the douche nazis sabotaged the project. Otherwise it was close to something significant.
    The closest to an efficient car any automaker ever has been. Like the dumb king who wouldn't throw the ring of power in the volcano :)

  • @BeeRich33
    @BeeRich33 10 лет назад

    What an ugly car. Prius owners already get many jokes, so I think VW doesn't quite get it yet.