6 Reasons Why Walk In Tubs Aren't Good for Seniors
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024
- 6 Reasons Why Walk In Tubs Aren't Good for Seniors
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Intro: 00:20
Walk in tubs lack safety features: 01:30
Walk in tubs are not customized to the individual client: 03:03
Walk in tubs take a long time to fill up with water: 04:12
Walk in tubs are expensive to install: 05:59
Walk in tubs are not safe for people with progressive medical conditions: 07:19
Walk in tubs are difficult for caregivers to help people: 08:43
What do you think of walk in tubs? 09:48
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They have lower profile tubs now that are walk in as well. Along with duel gravity drains so they drain very quickly. Most have handicap accessibility if they are meditubs or the like. I would agree with what is said here mostly except the fact no everyone likes showers. My uncle hates them and after his last fall. He won't use one again. I get the arguments for caregivers but showers arn't always a option here.
Totally agree! For people who absolutely love baths, there are bath tub lifts that lower people into an already existing bathtub. These types of lifts generally cost $2-3,000. It's cheaper than a walk-in tub, but still an investment!
@@toilettalkmeinsurance cover walk in tub’s if you own your home and land but they don’t cover bath tub lifts
@@BlondeTanTan That's interesting! I'd like to understand more about which insurance provider is covering walk in tubs.
Yes, I understand that the newer tubs have got to have better access than mine does. It’s about seven years eight years old. I’m not much of a bath taker anyways.
@@juliehargrove605 Thank you for sharing your experience!
As someone considering a walk in tub for her parents, I've found this video and all the comments for and against the tubs incredibly helpful. Perhaps most importantly, I was looking at these tubs as the perfect solution for my aging parents, and now I have more to consider based on their needs and preferences. Really appreciate this and you leaving the good discussion in the comments.
I'm happy you found this video helpful. You've got it right, considering needs and preferences is always the best way to approach these types of solutions.
I love mine it has a non slip seat and floor and has two grab bars, my hand held shower is adjustable and has an overhead shower head too , it has a heated seat and back rest and it empties in 2 timed minutes and it fills in less than 5 minutes and if I get degenerated I’ll probably be in a home, as far as the price ya it was expensive, but it was this or a new Indian roadmaster motorcycle, they cost about the same, and I figured I’d get more use out of the tub, I use it every night
It sounds like you've got the cadillac of walk-in tubs! Whoo! Yes, if I had the funds, that'd be the way to go. The heated seat and backrest would feel nice and toasty while you're waiting for water to warm up. I love that you have a hand held shower head within reach and grab bars. Non slip seating and flooring is an absolute must!
I'm so glad to hear that you use this every night. I wish that everyone had your experience, especially patients I've worked with who've had poor experiences with their walk-in tubs. They certainly did not have all of the features that you have in your walk-in tub.
I'm also glad that you chose this over a new motorcycle :) This sounds like you're getting your money's worth!
What brand tub did you get ?
@@nanja1946 safe step
Scary maybe not for me.
A curbless shower would be a better investment.@@LucilleMcknight-z9y
We got one for my elderly mother, back around 2005. It's not bad, but as she got older and weaker, it became difficult for her to step over even that small threshhold, and harder for me to help her to her feet, to get her out. We resolved the "cold" issue by placing a towel over her shoulders while filling/emptying the tub. My biggest complaint, is now, the door gasket is leaking and needs replacing, and the expense to find someone to do that. I now wish we had installed a zero-entry shower.
I'm so sorry you had that experience with your mother. That's exactly the situation I try to prevent for people I work with. It's awful to pay thousands of dollars and not be able to use the walk-in tub for as long as you'd like, especially when they're not functioning correctly!
If people really really want walk in tubs, I always recommend they make sure to install a curbless (AKA zero-entry) shower before the walk-in tub. I'd rather have a shower that I can use in my home no matter my age or abilities.
I hope you're able to find some solutions with your walk-in tub. I have a Financial Resources page (toilettalk.me/financial-resources) where you can find funding options to remove the walk-in tub and replace it with a curbless shower.
@@toilettalkme The link to the financial resources page does not work- it gives a 404 error message.
Whoops! I must have typed it wrong. Here we go: toilettalk.me/financial-resources
Why not raise the temperature in the bathroom with a small electric tub.
Your are so right on.. I have a walk in and I would give it away if I could just get someone to remove it.. I’m 81 and they are very dangerous..
I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. What services have you looked into removing it?
Yep. Just bought a house and it has one in the master bathroom. We want someone to tear it out. Absolutely hate it!
Looking to remove ours, the seat is slippery and so is the floor, large step up into tub, I am non weight bearing on one foot for a month or so. I have grab bars but not in the right place!. Water takes too long to fill and drain!
Use a $30 space heater in the bathroom to warm it up -- solves the "cold" problem.
I'm wary about space heaters because the cord becomes a trip hazard and if it comes into contact with water, then there could be electrical damage from that.
A good solution would be to install radiant floor heating! It quickly heats the bathroom and keeps everyone comfy during the cold months.
@@toilettalkme Yes but most folks can’t afford that. I’m an in-home caregiver and space heaters can certainly be hazardous but also can be used carefully.
@@wendyread1183 Oh yes, I understand that a lot of people can't afford to just tear up their bathroom floors and redo them. I'm in that category as well 😂That's something that definitely takes planning and time. I have financial resources page (toilettalk.me/financial-resources) that shares ideas to pay for bathroom remodeling. The resources are focused in Missouri and Kansas with the hopes that it gives people an idea where to look for funds in their community.
With the space heater, I don't want people to think that it's a safe, immediate solution they should use. (Only because I've working with people in the hospital and nursing homes who've injured themselves this way!)
An inexpensive option is to have a robe within reach after getting out of the shower. Or placing a dry towel on someone's head and shoulders while their lower body is being washed.
A towel warmer would cost money, but it'd still be safer than a space heater in the bathroom.
Does anyone else have suggestions on safe, inexpensive ways to keep warm in the bathroom? Put them in the comments!
Thank you so much. This was very informative. I was seriously considering a walk-in Tub. But I have definitely changed my mind. I’m a very cold natured person as well. I didn’t think about the filling and emptying of the tub. Thank you again.
It's my pleasure! I'm glad this was helpful to you!
thanx i was considering this as an option because i like baths vs showers so i am going to research other options to keep my tub with some adaptations i have a grab bar which i can still use but it is a far reach and takes some strength
Baths are so good! Of course, I'd never want anyone to give them up, but they can be a huge safety concern.
There are a lot of different adaptations out there. If you'd like some suggestions, please reach out at maria@toilettalk.me or ask your primary care provider to refer you to an occupational therapist!
As a remodeling contractor this was extremely helpful
You have no idea how happy your comment just made me! Thank you so much for your time and interest!
You are so right! We have a walk in tub, was here when we moved in. We were just getting ready to do a bathroom remodel, putting in a low profile tub with a fold down seat and handheld shower option. Then I severed a tendon in my foot/ankle, post surgical, no weight bearing for 4-6 weeks. The step into the walk in tub is very high! The seat is to the left and my grab bars are too far away, so I am currently doing sponge baths since surgery. I cannot use crutches due to recent shoulder & arm repair, so keep looking at my tub from my knee scooter & trying to figure the angle to get in without stepping on my foot! I'm not a bath taker, just want a shower! With a regular tub, I could use a transfer seat, but not with this one. This tub has to go!
Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear about your experience! I hope you get a real shower soon. Wishing you a very speedy recovery!
Thank you!
5 years ago, we got walk-in tub which is excellent except instead of going into tub as we wait until the water would be high enough we walk over safety washroom chair to get in warm water. 2. My wife lost her mother with grief open the door by accident, of course costing us money to replace water damages. 3. I was so tired that it was so nice being in the tub and I felt fast asleep causing the water to be overflowing over the tub. Again other cost of water damages. The insurance inspector asked me why there is no water drain or water stop and he was wondering it may fail to meet CSA code. We have to call CSA and manufacture to find about it. Also, we learn our lessons. never never sit in the tub while running the water.
Thank you for sharing your walk-in tub experiences. I'm so sorry to hear about the water damages and your mother-in-law's passing.
I hope that you're able to have the tub repaired to include a water drain and stop! Hopefully, that'll at least prevent future water damage.
My husband and I use our walk-in tub daily. I have every safety device. Our door opens out, there are two safety bars, our handheld shower is within easy reach. It is then able to be pulled out to the full length of the hose and hung on a wall bracket for my husband to shower. The water tap handles, plug levers and shower diverter are all handles you don’t need to grasp and turn. They just take easy push and pull. I have a towel hook within easy reach so if at any time I feel cold I can grab that towel to wrap around myself. Our tub has two huge drains so it drains very quickly. My bath mats have Velcro on the bottom and the floor. It keeps the rug secure so it doesn’t move when I step out. Also, it is easy to clean. I wash it down with the shower, spray cleaner on, use my o’cedar spin mop to swizzle everything clean and rinse with the shower. It is by far the best bathing solution we have ever had.
Excellent! It sounds like your set up was well thought out and works great for you.
Very educational, stuff I did not think about, thank you.
My pleasure!
Thank you these are also things I did not think about and I was considering getting one installed………… I do not like to be cold!!!
It's my pleasure! I don't like to be cold either!
Thank you , you educated me before I invested in a WIT. Curb less shower is a better investment for me.
I'm so glad this video helped you weigh your options better. I'm a strong believer that curbless showers are a better, longer lasting investment in keeping you at home instead of a nursing home!
I agree totally with these conclusions. These tubs are just cumbersome. Right now we only take showers in it.
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
Not all what she is saying is true. I am a healthcare give and also owned a walk-in tub that grab bar and with heated seat. I am very happy with mine walk in tub
There are definitely walk-in tubs with grab bar and heated seat features. The problem is that if people don't choose those features (or don't know to ask if those features are available) and find themselves feeling cold and unable to safely get in and out of the tub, then they often don't use the walk-in tub. It's a total waste of time and money.
It's more worthwhile to spend the same amount of money on a curbless shower that can be used no matter if I'm a wheelchair user or walk around with no devices.
As a healthcare giver (provider?), maybe your experienced helped you when choosing features during your walk-in tub installation. I'm glad that you enjoy it. I hope that you're able to use it for your lifetime.
I agree. This person is not informed, but only looking to make a useless video 👎
if you're worried about filling and draining the tub, you could just install a shower jet on above on the wall, like in a regular bathtub.
For people who like deep pressure from the water spray, this would be a good option!
If you buy a wheelchair accessible style walk in tub, even if you don't yet need it (yet)and a wheelchair with removable arms you can just slide across without standing and the falling issue is dramatically reduced. This also solves the progressive illness issue. You can easily heat the bathroom with a space heater. If you have a spouse or caregiver, they can help you in and out, provide towels etc. All of the points brought up in this video can be easily addressed. Now there are important things to consider when buying one. If you get a step in style, make sure the door to the tub is wide enough for the person that will be using it. Also, make sure the doors in your home, throughout the path to the tub are at least 2' wider than the tub(or buy a narrow profile one). Also, you may need to provide some additional support under your home for the tub. The weight of the tub, the water, and the person have to be supported. This video does not present reasons not to buy a tub, but things to consider and address when you do. My wife has had several occupational therapists here and she does not do most of the things they have suggested. We have found better ways, and you can too.
Thank you! For this video.
It's my pleasure! I hope it helped!
They have seatbelts now, heated seats, and a good way to do water exercises easy on the joints.
But you do have a point. If I ever got to a point where I needed help cleaning, that would be hard for the care giver.
Fortunately I have more than 1 bathroom, one is already almost a walk in . A low 3” threshold. I’ll preserve that one just in case. I’m 68 yrs with 23 spinal discs fused. I just may need that shower, thank you!!
Great tips to watch out for💭 thank you for caring ❤
God Bless!
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Thank you so much, I'm glad this video was helpful. Yes, there are a lot of cool features on walk in tubs, however, I'm so glad that you have that other bathroom as an option to install that curbless shower if needed. I appreciate you sharing your experience. Have a wonderful day!
i just came from a health provider who has recommended a power lift which looks interesting costs around 1 thousand dollars canadian
I'm glad you're talking with a health provider about this. Yes, there are lifts specifically for the tub. Clarke Healthcare is a good supplier in the U.S.
Thanks for the information. It was very useful.
That makes me happy to hear. 😊
What's the tub name pls
It's from Bath Planet
Why not heat the bathroom up with small heater. Simple solution for grandma getting cold.. you can add hand rails to most bath tubs by anchoring into stud walls around the tub. They make kits now to cut existing tubs and put in doorways to keep the cost down. Do your homework before buying a walk in shower tub.
Yes, I totally agree with you to always do the homework! Tub cuts cost a couple of several hundred dollars compared to 10-15K for a walk in tub. Grab bars are perfect to help with fall prevention! I recommend one at the tub shower entry (where ever you get in) to keep you steady when getting in and out.
I'm not a fan of heaters because they're often placed on the floor and the cord is a trip hazard. Keeping towels and robes on hooks within reach of the tub helps people dry off quickly.
Caregivers can place a towel over someone's shoulders and lap to keep them warmer while assisting with washing hair and body.
If anyone else has any ideas on walk in tub alternatives, please share them here!
WOW! you were amazing with your presentation. I have no need of a walk-in tub after your review
I'm so glad to hear that this video helped you! Thank you for watching!
She’s a medical professional? Omg
I sure am!😃 Some of us are goofier than others!
you talked me out of wanting a walk in tub. .. cost, safety, present and future needs. Not mentioned was they can leak, gasket on door not effective. i worked in a residential home for clients with tbi...more than once the bathroom got flooded....
Thank you for that extra insight, I'm glad you brought those points up in this conversation.
Iv'e just moved into a flat that has no bathtub, just a shower with only a curtain around it. When I shower water goes everywhere. I miss my bathtub.
Oh no, that sounds like a tough situation.
I can't believe you have a ten-minute video about walk-in tubs, and don't seem to tave photos or videos of them....
Sadly, I didn't have access to a walk-in tub at the time of filming the video.
yep thats all i need is grandma using a space heater (#one fire and eletracution hazard in the country) in the wet bath room
and this thing must take 60 gal of water stupid for home use
I couldn't agree more!
Do any middle aged people get these and enjoy them? Do you have any clients that like them?
The majority of people I've talked to who installed walk-in tubs are in their 60s and older or are young adults born with certain conditions like cerebral palsy.
I've only talked with one person who loved his walk-in tub! He was a really active old man and had all of the bells and whistles you'd want with a walk-in tub. This man also had curbless shower in case he wasn't able to use the walk-in tub anymore.
If someone has the space in their home and is able to install a curbless shower and a walk-in tub, that ensures that they're able to use a shower no matter their age or abilities. A walk-in shower is only good for people who are able to move themselves in and out of the tub shower.
Middle-aged people with no ability issues would spend less money on a hot tub. I definitely encourage everyone to thoughtfully plan bathroom remodels to be set up so that you can take care of yourself in case of injury or illness. Walk-in tubs just aren't useable for the entire lifespan.
@@toilettalkme Thank you.
My pleasure! @@msbgone
I think using the seat heater before getting in the tub would be of help same as when draining. My walk in tub is being installed as I write. They are very expensive. I have paid 50,000 for the tub and install. I pray you are wrong about people getting them and not using them! I plan on several times per week😊. Happy bathing, thinking color therapy will add to the relaxing soak😊
Very insightful!
Thank you! I'm so glad to share my perspective!
Manufactured reasons, poorly supported. Cautioning about installation quality, for example, is an argument that applies to ALL field work, not just WI tubs. Best argument was sitting naked in the cold, but wrapping a towel around would negate much of that. Safety features are not an argument against WIT, but they're an argument FOR WIT with safety features. Etc.
Thank you for sharing.
The problem with a curbless shower is that there is no tub....
Very helpful
I'm so glad to hear that! Thank you for the feedback.
Thank you for the insight into walkin tubs.
Thank you for your time watching this video! I'm happy to help!
Very disappointing info my wife hates taking showers, she says she doesn't feel clean afterward.
Finding an honest contractor will probably be an issue also...wish me luck
I'm wishing you the best of luck!
If you haven't had a chance yet, I recommend looking at bath tub lifts to help your wife get in and out of the tub safely.
Wow😮
👍
I love my walk in tub
I'm so glad to hear that!
Walk in showers are cold!
They can be! But I also find other types of showers to feel really cold as well after I step out of warm water.
Something that I'm going to install with my bathroom update is radiant floor heating. The floor feels warm and the system quickly and efficiently warms up the room.
Would do a walk in shower if o were to do it again.
Thank you for sharing! When I remodel, I plan on doing the same! It's always good to be prepared for injury or illness.
So lame, after three I concluded: Be smart, research and prepare. Hire a decent contractor that will listen to your needs. Buy a small space heater.
Do be dumb.😂
Thanks for watching!
My Lord, you are wrong on all 6 accounts Maria. Embarrassing! I sell the Boca Walk In tub and that system alone counters ALL of your negative talking points. I strongly suggest you do your due diligence before you publish a video sharing false information and scare tactics.
#1: Boca systems come with grab bars 24" or 36" in addition to anti slip seating and floors. Customers can also request additional grab bars if they prefer.
#2: Boca WIT are ALL made to order based off the needs of the client. And hey...guess what...a 5 ft hand held shower wand is STANDARD for every tub.
#3: Boca WIT offer as a small upgrade, HEATED SEAT and BACK for the client to stay warm while filling or draining their tub.
#4: Boca WIT without jets can range from $12 to $16k INSTALLED. With jets, $16 to $22k and that depends to what other options they add. Rarely do I sell a tub over $20K.
#5: Boca WIT has the LOWEST step in threshold in the market of 2" or less due to their internal frame. You barely have to lift your foot to enter or exit. Its a true WALK IN TUB.
#6: The whole point of getting a WIT is to NOT HAVE A caregiver bath you and have the easier access to bath yourself. If someone is past that point of being physically able to move extremities to wash themselves, then they are beyond the point of owning a WIT. That is very rare however.
Again, what a terrible video and I hope everyone reads my comments to see that a WIT is very beneficial to seniors and people with limitations.
Hi Jonathan Reed! I could see how my video would make you feel threatened and scared about your livelihood. If I sold walk in tubs, I wouldn't want other people to bring up the points that I did because it negatively affects your sales.
Lucky for me, I don't sell walk in tubs or any kind of shower system. So I'm able to share my experience about walk in tubs as an occupational therapist without financial incentive.
In my professional experience, I've only talked with two people who were able to use their walk in tubs for the long term. This is because as people age they may have joint problems that make it more difficult to safely move in and out of the walk in tub, even if it has grab bars.
I'd be interested to see a third party gather information from people about the long term use of their walk in tubs. Are walk in tub users still bathing in their tubs 5, 10 years later? Are they getting their 15-20K worth out that tub? Sadly most of the people I've worked with can't say they have.
I'll leave your unkind comment up because I think it'd be good for people to consider all perspectives. And I think it'd be good for people to see and judge how a walk in tub sales person behaves towards a health care professional who disagrees with their perspective on walk in tubs.
@toilettalkme Unkind? You are incorrect...and petty. You should be ashamed of your tone.
I think walk in tubs are a big BENEFIT for seniors! The video was negatively exaggerated. . .a little over the top.
@@JonathanReed1970 As a caregiver, for the second time in my life, and as a retired RN your response to her comment did you no favors, IMHO. You come across as Unprofessional and biased. And BTW not everyone can afford the product you install, especially after all the additional safety features are added. Another issue that wasn’t addressed by you, in your comprehensive comment, is how much the price could increase if you’re installing the WIT in an older home with possible issues like foundation problems, to name just one.