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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Cy_Borg is the new tangent from Mork Borg, an artpunk book with old-school rules, style over substance and a hefty price tag. It's a lovely object, but is it a good and useful game? How does it compare with its older brother?
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"See... I can get you what you want, I can. I can get you anything, you just have to talk to me, you have to trust me. You can trust me, 'cause I'm your priest, I'm your shrink... I am your main connection to the switchboard of the soul. I'm the magic man... Santa Claus of the subconscious. You say it, you think it, you can have it."
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What I like about this book is invites you to discover on your own, what the game is. For example I figured, the center part of the city Cy is not Go, but „G Zero“ as in „ground zero“, where the incident happened. And as soon as you discover those bits and pieces, it made me instantly feel clever and smart as hell. 😁😄
Which led me wanting to read and discover more
I found a supplement that adds races like orcs, dwarves, trolls and elves to the game making it a grim dark version of Shadowrun
WOW! What is the supplement called?
My group and I played this last night ( I was the GM ) and they LOVED it. It was quick, dirty and fun. As a matter of fact they loved it so much they want to make this THE game that we play going forward.
Doesn't maybe look like a game for a long campaign though?
40pounds for being told you are not allowed to be a capitalist. ok.
Thx Grim!
If the original is meant to be a swedish death metal album of a t t r p g. This is a e d m album that has been taken by somebody who is on methamphetamine's and literally decided that they would try and turn it into audio drugs.
I almost bought this book..still might which is why I watched the review. And yeah that "Rule Zero" didn't sit right with me. I also wanted to then run a corpo campaign and break the rule zero. In a TTRPG you should never tell the GM what they cannot do. Plain and simple. Once the game is at my table I dictate what can and cannot be done. That's how it works.
Still on the fence about buying it. If I did I'd just make "Rule Zero" not exist. A rules lite Cyberpunk style game is something I'm looking for. I do have original Cyberpunk 2020 but I wouldn't call it rules lite.
I mean, technically part of the core of cyberpunk in and of itself is looking at the rules and saying, screw the rules.I do what I want. By putting rule zero as it is , I see it as an encouragement and an invitation to the g m to be like hey , if you really think you can pull it off and make them want to be corporate Merks go ahead and try. But with the unspoken concept that it's not gonna be easy if you're fighting as the bad guys
7:56 is the exact same thing I said to myself when I read this section as well. Haha!
I just started a Cy Borg game. Didn't read anything, just let the Dm inform me about stuff. Then someone was like, yeah the world is ending. I was like, well damn! lol. So i rolled this into my character. My guys like, nah society is just going to keep on keeping on baby! Lets commit crime and make money!
Better not ever bring up not liking "Rule 0" in their Discord, lol. Apparently it's okay to troll and bully opinions, just as long as you don't think like them.
8:05, something that rtg's cyberpunk not only talks about but encourages
Not something I've noticed in previous Cyberpunk games from TTRPG to Video Games.
@@dagazrune6453 I mean corpo has always been a role in their games but red makes it clear you can be one of the few execs (the red version of corpo )trying to bring something of a peace of mind to the public and using the system against itself
@@Ike_of_pyke What I was saying is that previous versions of Cyberpunk games were never directly anti-police or really ant-capitalism. They were anti-corruption. Players could be members of Trauma Team, the Police, or even from a Corp. The campaign would have a different feel but it was never stated that every single Cop or Corpo was evil.
@@dagazrune6453 so they have gone on record saying that in the vanilla setting if you play rules as written and setting as is , the corps that exist in 2013/2020/red are all evil but since they allow people to make this world their own , it's 100% in the rules to make a sympathetic Corp/corpo
@@Ike_of_pyke thanks for the clarification.
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Odd concept, being forced to be anti cop anti corporation and not allowed to have a dissenting opinion. Would you call that “anarchofascism?”
Bootlicker
Then you're not playing the cyberpunk genre, you're playing future Corp drone. The whole point of the dystopia is that it is bad. Wanna be the bad guy? Fine. But you're not one of the punks. You're the boot or the ones who kiss it.
The contrarian position is childish. The devs had a very specific reason for the rule, everyone but the punks are sniveling, spineless spitlickers.
Great, honest review! Thank you!🙏🏾
I will never understand this childish and ineffectual desire to tell people how to run games or what character concepts are allowed.
All I can think is that it is a way for the author to signal his allegiance to a certain brand of politics.
I suspect that is the case. Preaching to the choir here though. I don't understand leaning so hard into being contrarian. I understand the impulse to buck a directive, but why feed the impulse?
I have used the cyberpunks in a decaying sim idea as well, so I can't fault that. What I don't like is there is an end-case in the setting. I am not a fan of planned fate type games, which the exception of historical ones, I suppose.
I also share your contrarian nature and your unwillingness to mess up gaming materials, so I was nodding at those parts.
I hate artpunk. I understand the effort put into layout but it seems to come at a cost on the design side of things.
My copy of Wightchester is in production now, estimated to ship tomorrow, looking forward to it.
To be fait, the rules are consolidated in a clean format on the inside covers of the book.
@@tomwisniewski8988 I am not required to be fait. Format wasn't my concern.
All of these artpunk games are, at core, incomplete and shoddy. They make design decisions that beg questions then don't even begin to answer, just move on to the next thing like a dog chasing squirrels. It's a bizarre and (design-wise) lazy direction for the OSR and that is why I hate them.
OTOH Wightchester looks great, lots of effort in design there. I am not sure I'll use it but I appreciate the effort put in regardless and I'm looking forward to the read.
@@Eron_the_Relentless Ok
But the book is gorgeous and the game is very easy to understand. Have you actually read it?
@@markbaker465 Yes.