Wow, good display of a crazy gust front Ian, I had a brutal one earlier this year, thankfully was a bit shorter the worst of it but certainly a scary experience. Glad you were able to capture it, mine was just on helmet cam but on some stupid timelapse mode by accident, but come to think of it, I don't want to relive it in the sky or on the screen. haha.
A lot of PPG pilots are flying corn fields and don't realize there is a lot more to it when flying in the mountains or around water! I fly in North Idaho and it can get wild! Good vid!
Every direction I looked in that video had ZERO outs for landing out over the water. I realize this type of flying is personal choice, but it speaks volumes to new pilots that maybe I should/could do the same thing. Eventually this will lead to us getting restricted in someway when we have paramotors falling from the sky. Good video, but please remember, there are some people that will emulate your actions. Seeing that you have the skills to pull this off is awesome, but the others may not and if will eventually come back to haunt us in the way of restrictions. Subbed anyhow :)
This is why we send students to schools to learn about the things you mention, and to trust local pilot knowledge. So may times I have to tell visiting pilots that I don't feel comfortable taking them on a flight either because of the conditions or their skill level. So this video is to show when I don't think the conditions are going to be stable and flyable...... It's always better to be on the ground wishing you where in the air than in the air wishing you where on the ground.... Thanks for the SUB!!
Thanks for sharing and showing what these wings are capable of. I live in a mountainous area and will be sure to try to avoid that kind of air!! Nice flying skills :)
Hey Ian, I’m glad your okay, that is some rough ish!! Do you mind if I use clips of this footage in an instructional weather video I’m putting together?
Yes that's a good point. To see the floats in action check out my other video "Crashing a Paramotor Into Water" I real think its a great tribute to how well the floats work.
Yes to your video title Ian. I’ve seen videos of it. Well played given the circumstances. Consider a retreat to the woodlands, away from an open body of water where the cool air coming from the water rises to meet the morning heat of the day. Your options were limited with the wake turbulence created by the plane. Also, the water can be glass like peeps are mentioning, but the winds aloft as you know can be considerably different.
Alot of people watching this don't realize the gopro on the chase cam is auto stabilizing the video, the reality would have been far worse than it looks.
Yeah I've tried to take MayBell on XC free flights but the thermals just make the footage all shaky as well. Here I'm glad she didn't end up in my prop!!
There are a few other things at play, on this particular day.....If you watch the previous video, you can see both sides of the water around that peninsula, pretty much glass..... also boats and flags had the flow going out of the bay which is pretty normal Katabatic flow. I kinda got pinned low by the plane circling laps in the bay, and was forced to take a line that I didn't want to take. The sun went behind the clouds and things began to change fast. The upper flow dropped about 1,000ft and ripped over that ridge, which created the rotor putting me on the lee side of the ridge, and in prop wash from the plane. You are right that you can see the Zephry's on the water when I'm in it, but by that point I was pretty committed to that line, and wanted to be as close as I could be for a retrieve if I didn't make it.
Hey! I found your channel and now you got a new sub.. wish I could pick your brain tho. I was born and raised in south lake but live in Reno these days. I am super interested in getting into Paramotoring but kinda intimidated about the area that I have to learn in. I did watch your explanation videos but you never really talked about motor out scenarios… when your over Emerald Bay, you are either in the trees, or in the drink… Emerald Bay doesn’t look like a safe PM location to me.. I’d love to hear your thoughts about that
Yeah most of the flying on this channel is super high end, high risk, and high consequence. There are way safer places to learn. I learned in the Salton Sea area. Low elevation take offs with light winds make this sport way easier to learn. You can also hit me up on Instagram @IanRyanKirk if you have more questions....
I experienced some turbulence similar to that recently. I threw up several times before I got back on the ground. Super motion sickness, and lots of adrenaline, equals throwing up while flying... no fun.
Just liked & subbed! You deserve it for that one! Friend & I flew under a roll cloud in a trike ultralight. If we'd been in a Paramotor we'd be dead. Wave action showed wind coming from your right combined possibly with the edge of a thermal causing your right tip to partially collapse. Be glad it was overcast, for the most part, when the collapse happened. Thermal, if there was one, could've been much stronger. Great video! Thanks! Could you tell us what type of Trailcam you used? It was very stable once you got settled down.
Link posted above goes to something called "tribrain tutor," which has nothing to do with flying. Is this the one that captured the footage? ---> skysportsusa.net/accessories/chase-cams/
thanks for sharing, since i dont have any ppg experience (only hg and pg) i am wondering: why did you not try to climb instantly to get above the lee, head back to from where you came or head further over water? all those would have likely gotten you out of it faster? Or did you not notice you where lee surfing at that time?
Ummmm, I'm going to say a hard NO! You have to manage the glider with the correct inputs at the correct time in a situation like this one. If you have no clue on how to manage a glider in turbulence, holding constant pressure and praying is better than being a toggle monkey. With a Paramotor you also have throttle to manage as well. If you don't let off the throttle when you get twisted you'll twist more. If you listen to the motor between my F-bombs you hear the changes in throttle to counter the sink, the twists, and the lift.
That looked sketchy. If it came down to it you looked to have 2 landing options, in the water, or hanging up in trees. Not a pleasant choice. Thanks for posting.
@@IanRyanKirk hahaha right! Do u fly here a lot? How far out do u go from ur launch area? That cove looks somewhat close, withing 5 miles. And that rotor off those trees and mountains looks brutal. When u said the air was pushing u down it made my muscles tense up. The thought of going down out there in that water is not my idea of a good time. But u managed to find ur way back to the safe LZ w no incident. Good job. Live and learn.
@@JulietsMan my take off area is the SLT Airport. It's my home flying sight. Well over 1,000 hrs of flight time if you count all my free flight as well. You can find video's of me doing guided flights around the lake which is about 70-80 miles. But I always encourage other pilots to know their glide triangle and always be re evaluating their options every 1-10 mins. That is about the limit of most paramotors on fuel.
I've got to say, I was on the edge of my seat watching this. Thanks for sharing. Glad you landed safely.
I posted two follow up videos for more insight.
That's the best display of turbulence on a video I have seen yet. The chase cam shows it well. Bet it didn't feel fun at all.
Yeah its crazy how much it gets tossed around. Glad it didn't end up in my prop.
I'm going to stick with FLPHG, despite the weight and rigging time!
Fixed wing can handle way more turbulence then these Paragliders.... I'd love to have one!!
It looked fun tho
@@IanRyanKirk fixed wing is a way dangerous than PPG. Much more fatalities.
Wow, good display of a crazy gust front Ian, I had a brutal one earlier this year, thankfully was a bit shorter the worst of it but certainly a scary experience. Glad you were able to capture it, mine was just on helmet cam but on some stupid timelapse mode by accident, but come to think of it, I don't want to relive it in the sky or on the screen. haha.
I posted two follow up videos for more insight.
A lot of PPG pilots are flying corn fields and don't realize there is a lot more to it when flying in the mountains or around water! I fly in North Idaho and it can get wild! Good vid!
Thanks for watching buddy!! Flying above a Density Altitude of 8000ft is a whole different world for sure then the flat lands!!
Every direction I looked in that video had ZERO outs for landing out over the water. I realize this type of flying is personal choice, but it speaks volumes to new pilots that maybe I should/could do the same thing. Eventually this will lead to us getting restricted in someway when we have paramotors falling from the sky. Good video, but please remember, there are some people that will emulate your actions. Seeing that you have the skills to pull this off is awesome, but the others may not and if will eventually come back to haunt us in the way of restrictions. Subbed anyhow :)
This is why we send students to schools to learn about the things you mention, and to trust local pilot knowledge. So may times I have to tell visiting pilots that I don't feel comfortable taking them on a flight either because of the conditions or their skill level. So this video is to show when I don't think the conditions are going to be stable and flyable...... It's always better to be on the ground wishing you where in the air than in the air wishing you where on the ground.... Thanks for the SUB!!
The PPG did not fall. Everything was safe
Thanks for sharing and showing what these wings are capable of. I live in a mountainous area and will be sure to try to avoid that kind of air!! Nice flying skills :)
I posted two follow up videos for more insight.
Hey Ian, I’m glad your okay, that is some rough ish!!
Do you mind if I use clips of this footage in an instructional weather video I’m putting together?
Go right ahead bud. I'm happy to help
@@IanRyanKirk awesome, thanks man!
Good to see you have floatation over all that open water . Never know when that Vitto Exhaust is going to explode into your prop .
Yes that's a good point. To see the floats in action check out my other video "Crashing a Paramotor Into Water" I real think its a great tribute to how well the floats work.
Yes to your video title Ian. I’ve seen videos of it. Well played given the circumstances. Consider a retreat to the woodlands, away from an open body of water where the cool air coming from the water rises to meet the morning heat of the day. Your options were limited with the wake turbulence created by the plane. Also, the water can be glass like peeps are mentioning, but the winds aloft as you know can be considerably different.
I hope you'll Subscribe and come back for the Break Down and Explanation of what happened that day. Some good lessons to take home on this one.
Alot of people watching this don't realize the gopro on the chase cam is auto stabilizing the video, the reality would have been far worse than it looks.
You are correct. Ninja
I was scared just watching that! Must have been terrifying to be in it 😳
I'm was about as scared as I would ever want to be on a paramotor...
Wow, the Chase Cam is very telling of how rowdy it was!
Yeah I've tried to take MayBell on XC free flights but the thermals just make the footage all shaky as well. Here I'm glad she didn't end up in my prop!!
hit that little Subscribe Button so you don't miss the break down of what really happened that day..... :-)
Next time look at the water, you can see the rotor on it... Instead you just went back for more! Lol
There are a few other things at play, on this particular day.....If you watch the previous video, you can see both sides of the water around that peninsula, pretty much glass..... also boats and flags had the flow going out of the bay which is pretty normal Katabatic flow. I kinda got pinned low by the plane circling laps in the bay, and was forced to take a line that I didn't want to take. The sun went behind the clouds and things began to change fast. The upper flow dropped about 1,000ft and ripped over that ridge, which created the rotor putting me on the lee side of the ridge, and in prop wash from the plane. You are right that you can see the Zephry's on the water when I'm in it, but by that point I was pretty committed to that line, and wanted to be as close as I could be for a retrieve if I didn't make it.
Oh yeah..... Thanks for watching!!
Damn, I was just praying that you had floatation for 3 minutes straight!
That was a bil ole collapse! Glad you made it out unscathed.
Not that bad, but pretty big for having a motor on your back.
WOW that was crazy. This video showed the turbulence very well.
I posted two follow up videos for more insight.
Hey! I found your channel and now you got a new sub.. wish I could pick your brain tho. I was born and raised in south lake but live in Reno these days. I am super interested in getting into Paramotoring but kinda intimidated about the area that I have to learn in. I did watch your explanation videos but you never really talked about motor out scenarios… when your over Emerald Bay, you are either in the trees, or in the drink… Emerald Bay doesn’t look like a safe PM location to me.. I’d love to hear your thoughts about that
Yeah most of the flying on this channel is super high end, high risk, and high consequence. There are way safer places to learn. I learned in the Salton Sea area. Low elevation take offs with light winds make this sport way easier to learn. You can also hit me up on Instagram @IanRyanKirk if you have more questions....
I experienced some turbulence similar to that recently. I threw up several times before I got back on the ground. Super motion sickness, and lots of adrenaline, equals throwing up while flying... no fun.
Just had a friend of mine throw up after learning how to heli his wing.....
That looked Scary Fun ! Great Video ! Are you staying with the Sirocco or switching to another wing?
I highly recommend the Sirocco... its a great wing
Man, best turbulence video I've ever seen...
I assume the turbulence is from the hills? Im not familiar with the area.
I posted two follow up videos for more insight.
Just liked & subbed! You deserve it for that one! Friend & I flew under a roll cloud in a trike ultralight. If we'd been in a Paramotor we'd be dead.
Wave action showed wind coming from your right combined possibly with the edge of a thermal causing your right tip to partially collapse. Be glad it was overcast, for the most part, when the collapse happened. Thermal, if there was one, could've been much stronger. Great video! Thanks! Could you tell us what type of Trailcam you used? It was very stable once you got settled down.
I used the Trailcam from Skysports.net
@@IanRyanKirk Thanks for going to the trouble of replying Ian! Will check the link now.
Link posted above goes to something called "tribrain tutor," which has nothing to do with flying. Is this the one that captured the footage? ---> skysportsusa.net/accessories/chase-cams/
thanks for sharing, since i dont have any ppg experience (only hg and pg) i am wondering: why did you not try to climb instantly to get above the lee, head back to from where you came or head further over water? all those would have likely gotten you out of it faster? Or did you not notice you where lee surfing at that time?
It's a complicated scenario...... Stay tuned for the video explanation
@@IanRyanKirk oh great! Looking forward to that. Saw you also do pg so extra interested :) keep up the good work, i know how much work it is!
Are you in Washington state?
no I live in TAHOE
Very nice display of active piloting👍
Thanks 👍
Sure can, especially flying an awak 3 15m.
with a rocket loop 🤫
In those type of situations, (with a normal, non reflex, wing) is it recommended to hold light pressure on the brakes to pressurize the wing?
Pray is the better recomendation
Ummmm, I'm going to say a hard NO! You have to manage the glider with the correct inputs at the correct time in a situation like this one. If you have no clue on how to manage a glider in turbulence, holding constant pressure and praying is better than being a toggle monkey. With a Paramotor you also have throttle to manage as well. If you don't let off the throttle when you get twisted you'll twist more. If you listen to the motor between my F-bombs you hear the changes in throttle to counter the sink, the twists, and the lift.
What wing are you on? Ozone what?
19m Sirocco 2
That looked sketchy.
If it came down to it you looked to have 2 landing options, in the water, or hanging up in trees.
Not a pleasant choice.
Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching
Probably rotor off of the hill to your right. BTW engine out...and your swimmin.
I posted two follow up videos for more insight.
It's sketchy, flying in the lea side of a hill. The evidence is in the water.
Cood call...the water tells the story
@@glideamerica Thank you, I call it as I see it. Hopefully I can raise some awareness. (>*
I posted two follow up videos for more insight.
personally i would never fly here. from what i cna see there are zero landing options besides water.
You are correct. Zero landing options besides the water which I can't say is actually a "landing" Option more of a "Crash" option.
@@IanRyanKirk hahaha right! Do u fly here a lot? How far out do u go from ur launch area? That cove looks somewhat close, withing 5 miles. And that rotor off those trees and mountains looks brutal. When u said the air was pushing u down it made my muscles tense up. The thought of going down out there in that water is not my idea of a good time. But u managed to find ur way back to the safe LZ w no incident. Good job. Live and learn.
@@JulietsMan my take off area is the SLT Airport. It's my home flying sight. Well over 1,000 hrs of flight time if you count all my free flight as well. You can find video's of me doing guided flights around the lake which is about 70-80 miles. But I always encourage other pilots to know their glide triangle and always be re evaluating their options every 1-10 mins. That is about the limit of most paramotors on fuel.