Remember this like it was yesterday. Lloyd's son and daughter went to the same primary school as me in Walworth, about a week after this fight he turned up at the school to pick his kids up with the belts over his shoulder and he was mobbed by all the us kids. A true South East London legend 🥊
I was there the night Lloyd was beaten by Mark Breland. Honeyghan had trouble making the weight and looked a shadow of the fighter you see here. There was a story that he put his entire purse on him winning; not sure if this is true, but it makes a great tale.
I remember some cold winter mornings as a kid doing my paper round on.I would see Lloyd running down the Walworth rd every morning. He put the work in, total respect. That was at a time when you could get to see a mandatory defence fight between boxer's at there prime with unbeaten records, now the champ would give up one of the belts for a easier pay day.
Those guys were real warriors during that time, I respect them to the fullest,but what saddens me is when those guys end their career broke and in bad health.so I respect these new age champions for securing their future,over their legacy.its prize fighting. They should be consciously chasing the biggest prize,especially if it's an easier pay day.
One of the greatest performances by a british fighter abroad EVER against the best pound for pound of the time. Thanks Lloyd - stunning and never forgotten.
@blah blah I watched it on world of sport the following afternoon and I remember jumping up and down buzzing,shouting YEAHHHH DON CURRY,HE DID IT,HE BEAT DON CURRY!
I would rate Michael Spinks at this time higher than Curry, mike had dominated the light heavies and beaten Larry Holmes, first time a ligt hea had done that, also i would rate J C Chavez higher than curry, but to each their own, Curry was a damn good fighter and Lloyd went in there and got it done.
@@robertsaladino who said it was his greatest knockout apart from you? It's his greatest win. And if the fight didn't get stopped, it would have ended up been a KO or Curry would quit. Curry didn't want to fight any more, he was dejected and looked relieved it was over.
Yes definitely a masterclass performance! Funny, what prompted me to watch this fight, I was watching a nature program where a mongoose was fighting a Cobra. Our English Mongoose did us proud!
Great upload thank you. Maybe Curry was weight drained but still, he believed along with 99% of others he'd still have too much for Honeyghan. What a win this was, one of the best performances of the whole 1980's.
@coffeeinthemorning if any other fighter had that record today they would be in a p4p shout. you can do the "oh who did he beat?" but a hair above everyone else at the time and young as well. every curry fight he was on level reputation with his opponent. milton mccrory, marlon starling, colin jones, la rocca he was on a level pegging and he seemed to just get better and better with every performance and emphatic. hearns, spinks hagler and i think wilf gomez had titles at the time. it was still curry who was considered p4p at the time. add to the fact that this fight was just to get it done and move up to 154 then 160 eventially. think of it more like tito trinidad before he goes in against hopkins. we know what we know now.
I was a huge Curry fan but had never seen this fight. I only gave him one round. That first big punch by Honeygan just seemed to take the starch out of him. What a shocker. Thanks for posting!!!
I remember watching this fight live. I had told my dad we were going to see a Brit get knocked out by The Cobra. How wrong I was and how delighted to see the quality of Lloyd Honeyghan with a fantastic win.
Don Curry was ‘the man’ at the time of this fight, ranked pound for pound the best fighter in the world. Nicknamed the Cobra, Curry’s left right combination was delivered at lightening speed, and very dangerously for a succession of opponents. That makes Lloyd Honeyghan’s performance on the night, even more remarkable. I was mesmerised at the time, as I saw this brilliant performance unfold. Totally took the steam away from Curry, perhaps the greatest Brutish performance on American soil, given the undeniable quality of his unbeaten opponent.
First boxing match I recall seeing on TV as I think it was shown earlier in the day, plus my aunt was one of his many girlfriends at the time so mum made me watch it. LEGENDARY moment in British boxing.
Yes, I was about to post the same statement. The Cobra was a Superstar. I networks over here didnt even show the fight. They looked at it like the fasty LLoyd was gonna get his head bus by Curry.
Yeah, whilst being a great and deserved win for Honeyghan, in terms of Boxing Curry's loss robbed us of some potential superfights down the line, as his potential was much bigger than Lloyd's. Honeyghan went on to have a fairly average reign as Champion. His biggest fight after this was probably his defeat to Starling a few years later. have fought Hagler before Leonard got to him, or at least been in a great position to fight the winner.
Why? Lloyd was the no1 contender for a reason. He only started dropping after a couple of years after this fight because his hands turned to dust. Up until that point he was unfightable at WW. Don didn't pick Lloyd he had to fight him, he just was a mismatch against a slippery quick high work rate fighter like Lloyd.
@@ravenaussie3760strewth you are a raving aussie arent you with all your outback prejudices. Lloyd was a Londoner yer drongo...cant you hear the cockney accent...he had a British psssport so did Laing. In case youve been at the 4x mate they were British West Indians.
I remember how big Curry became after he knocked out McCrory. Always kind of felt the boxing establishment was trying hard to fill the void of Sugar Rays retirement by really pushing Curry. He was obviously good, but I felt they overdid it. I remember him gracing the cover of many magazines. The guy was close to being a household name for a year.
I remember things exactly the same way. Once he stopped McCrory, he was catapulted by the writers, reporters, etc. All in the name of minting A brand new " Sugar Ray . "
@@HemanParkFilms mark Breland being one of America's best ever amateurs, and a world champion. A very, VERY good boxer, and it's absolutely no stain whatsoever to lose to mark Breland.
@@HemanParkFilms He wasn't in his prime in those fights, he had alot of problems going on outside of the ring. And yes, he is underrated. He beat Donald Curry at his best and also beat an undefeated Maurice Blocker. He's a top 10 welterweight of all time IMO but he doesn't get the recognition other welterweight champions do.
Micky Duff. Legend. I remember someone on the radio (UK) saying he asked his friend on the train to work what round Honeyghan got knocked out in (the fight being sleep time UK and Curry regarded as the new Sugar Ray Leonard) and was astounded to hear Honey was world champion!
A masterclass by the “RAGAMUFFIN”. Exceptional nimble footwork always up on his toes which I feel was why Curry couldn’t catch Lloyd cleanly, also added to amazing hand speed and sharpness of punch. Just an immaculate display of cool,composed and controlled aggressive boxing. Lovely 😊 to watch. Hats off to LLOYD “Ragamuffin” HONEYGHAN Undisputed Welterweight Champion. ♥️🙏☝️
Thanks for the upload mate, remember watching it live. Yep Curry had weight issues but sometimes a boxer peaks in one fight and this was Lloyd's, a very good and often overlooked Brit 🥊
36 years later its still the best performance by a british fighter in a American ring , Curry at the time was ranked top pound for pound fighter by ring magazine
People say that Curry lost to Honeyghan because he was weight drained. However, Curry has said that the reason why he lost wasn't because he was weight drained. But because he couldn't get motivated to fight Honeyghan. He had become the undisputed welterweight champion of the world with his win over Milton McCrory and wanted to move up in weight to fight the likes of Hagler, Hearns and Leonard. However, whilst waiting for the big fights to materialise he decided to keep busy by fighting Honeyghan in a mandatory defence of his titles. Honeyghan won because he was far more motivated than Curry. He realised that this was his opportunity to achieve fame and fortune and he took it with both hands. In contrast Curry had started believing in his own hype and thought that he was a certainty to win against an unknown fighter from England. As such, he didn't prepare as well as he could have and received a nasty shock on the night, one from which his career never really recovered. The moral of the story is 'there is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.'
Curry says the same about all his losses. It's was well-known beforehand that Curry had major problems making 147 and was really fighting at a weight he could no longer healthily make. I remember pics of him training and running in a full plastic suit shortly before the Colin Jones fight and that was 20 months before this fight. I think killing himself to make weight (he was 11 pounds over 3 days before the fight) for a fight against a guy he knew nothing about demotivated him too, not to mention the management hassles he was having at the time. Regardless, he looked drained coming into the ring and had no sharpness or strength. Honeyghan looked much stronger in close, yet Curry was known for being strong and well-balanced inside (see Jones, Starling etc). He was rocked badly by the first clean shot Honeyghan landed. I agree with you that for Honeyghan, this was the biggest moment of his career, but for Curry it was a necessary obligation and that motivation was lacking. But the weight was the biggest deciding factor imo.
@@johnniea4684 It's a boxer's responsibility to be in the best possible condition . If a champion can't make the weight , then vacate the title and move up a weight class . No shame in that , in fact that's the smart thing to do . Over the years I've lost count of the cheats , excuses and bent decisions that British fighters have suffered fighting American fighters in America . The only place harder to win a decision is Italy !
@@johnniethepom2905 Completely agree. I will say that Curry's lawsuit against Ray Leonard + his manager/lawyer Mike Trainer alleged that they'd advised him to delay vacating his welterweight title (he was due to challenge McCallum at light middle in 1986 + had been testing the waters at 154 in no title bouts). The McCallum fight was the first step to a projected mega fight with middleweight champion Marvin Hagler. Curry's suit stated that Leonard/Trainer were confidants who deliberately mislead him as they had their own secret plan for Sugar Ray to make a comeback + fight Hagler himself. Just his story.
bigdaddy4069 lol,cannot remember just remember jumping around the living room with my brother when Lloyd won. ...being boxing fans...my bro’s regular read was the ring ...no internet then...no bloody mobiles.
I remember this as a kid the raga muffin man doing the business me and my brother travelled 250 miles 2 c the champ parade the belt round carnby st on a truck magic performance
Don't blame them mate. Nobody saw that coming who knew anything about boxing! The Mirror boxing guy actually thought that Honeyghan shouldn't be allowed to fight Curry (despite being his mandatory), is was that much of a mismatch.
I was 17yrs old at the time and thought Curry would stop Honeyghan but i wanted Lloyd to win so bad. I couldn’t believe my eyes the way he came out so sharp and determined putting Curry on the back foot in what to me is the greatest upset by a British fighter, with a legendary performance.
This was massive back then, people were saying Curry could not be beat and he's a all time great!! The Ragga muffin man had other ideas! One of my favourite fights ever!!
@@2000Majicman Better to have tasted success and spent the rewards than be living in your mum's basement , criticizing a world champion while you have Macca's burger sauce dribbling down your chin .
One of the Greatest British victories EVER! Don Curry was by far the best fighter in this division by far! Curry was in same class as Sugar Ray Leonard! Almost unbeatable! To do this in the States too was incredible! I remember it well, and honestly love Lloyd Honeygan, but I didn't give him a chance to be honest! He shud have been called The Legend Lylod Honeygan after this win! Performance of his life!😮
Honeyghan shook up the world that night nobody though he could win including me curry was never the same after one of the greatest performances of any boxer ever probably the greatest by a British boxer
To win this against at the time the current p4p best,was, absolutely stunning,incredible win,right up there with Tyson v Douglas,seriously,it was massive.Maybe not as recognised in terms of household names et cetera but this was enormous.
God bless you brother. I trained at the Karmand centre in bradford, which gave us the likes of Junior Witter, Bobby Vanzie, Femi Fehintola and many other great boxers. Peace and blessings to you brother.
I was 12 watching this...loved Lloyds energy and how fearless he was coming in to this fight. You can see round by round how he was slowly demoralising Curry. Curry didnt want to know anymore, even if the cut never happened Curry knew he wasn't beating Lloyd on this night...laser focus
Bigger upset? Honeyghan defeating Curry inspired a tribute song by The Jesus and Mary Chain: Just Like Honey. Name me one song inspired by Biggie Smalls KOing Tyson ? i'll wait .... thought so
Great Knowledge x 2. Octavio got to witness some big upsets. No one and mean no one gave Honeyghan chance in this fight. Honeyghan's unorthodox boxing just caused Curry some many problems. SRL said it best, the unorthodox fighters are harder to fight than conventional fighters.
I was at the NEC in Birmingham watching Bruno against Fergusson and Lloyd was next to me in the toilet. It was just after he was attacked with a hammer. I remember him telling me he was feeling better but couldnt fight again
From Abergavenny in South Wales; our hero Colin Jones had been cut to pieces by Curry and we thought the man was unbeatable. What Honeyghan did was truly incredible and we all loved him for it. Incidentally, you will notice that the referee is the same referee who officiated in the Tyson v Douglas fight. You don’t want this man standing in a fight if you’re the champ 😂
Loyd was the reason why tboxer have to stand up from the stool before the bell rings. In one fight the bell rang and he jumped up ran over to the other boxer wnd hit him before he got off his stool
Honeyghan said that the only time he has seen Don Curry since their fight was in a Las Vegas gym. Curry was working out and after he had finished he went up to Curry and said "Do you remember me?" Curry said "Man you ruined my career" and walked away without another word.
Does anyone remember him being interviewed by Harry Carpenter and say “The bell went ding and I went dong” after charging over to Johnny Bumphus’s corner and banjoing him before he barley got from his stool?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I remember the Americans saying that there should be an ambulance outside waiting to take Honeyghan to hospital when the fight was stopped. There was an ambulance waiting when the fight was stopped. And it took Curry to hospital to be checked over. 🥊
This is the first time I watched Honeyghan and I'm impressed. He kinda reminds me of Featherweight Champion Eusebio Pedroza. I came here because of an article made by a Filipino writer comparing Manny Pacquiao to the champion of 80's. He said Honeyghan won't stand a chance against Pacquiao.
Omg ron still goes on about the old skool days when he went to some of ur fights and after u didn't wanna party just watch boxing on tv after hahaha omd that dedication but yeh still top dog although u retired ages ago legend 1love jah bless always
Good performance by Honeyghan but it was well known Curry was having big problems making the weight and it showed from round one. Fighters who take a beating when weight drained never have much punch resistence from then on.
Me and 2 friends had been out clubbing in London and listened to this fight live on my car radio at about 5am.I think we woke up most of the neighbourhood when this was stopped!. Whether Curry was weight drained or not, Honeyghan did what he had to do and beat what was in front of him,top performance.I was a fan of Curry and there was talk at the time of a potential fight with Marvin Hagler, instead Curry fought Mike McCallum and we know what happened there
In my opinion the greatest victory ever by a british fighter - lest not forget, at the time Donald Curry was not only considered the P4P best at the time, but was already being mentioned as a potential GOAT.
I never liked Curry as a fighter, he had skills, power and decent speed but, he had the fatal habit of not utilizing strategic lateral movement. He would stand in front of his opponent too long and get nailed. Say you want about Ray Leonard, in his prime he knew how to use that movement.
Yeh he was always there for the receipt. I didn't like the way Curry used to bend forward on the inside and leave himself open to chopping hooks or uppercuts either. I think defensively he was poor. Great at slipping and countering from within the pocket, but open on the inside, and would go straight back when attacked (McCallum)
@@davidbowen6284 McCallum was the ultimate exposer of Curry because he pointed out after their fight that he easily decoded his patterned movements and after a few rounds he could simply time him coming in and then moving out wide open. Not useful attribute for a fighter to give everything away by being a telegrapher in the ring.
Got up to listen to this live on the radio.. I thought the lonestar cobra was unbearable, how wrong I was. Des Lyneham was the commentators on bbc radio. I still have that comentary.
That right hand in the first round made curry afraid to throw his jab for the rest of the fight...if i can see it written all over Curry's face you can be dam sure honeyghan knows it... you've got to forget about it... it's like curry wasn't mentally prepared for honeyghan...
I remember watching this as a 13 year old! Great fight. Unfortunately this was the high water mark for LH, and he never really kicked on. I'm not sure why.
Remember this like it was yesterday. Lloyd's son and daughter went to the same primary school as me in Walworth, about a week after this fight he turned up at the school to pick his kids up with the belts over his shoulder and he was mobbed by all the us kids. A true South East London legend 🥊
That's some story.
Great story brother
I was there the night Lloyd was beaten by Mark Breland. Honeyghan had trouble making the weight and looked a shadow of the fighter you see here. There was a story that he put his entire purse on him winning; not sure if this is true, but it makes a great tale.
Great memories 👍🏾
That is class mate 👌🏼
I watched this on a Saturday afternoon on BBC's "Granstand".
Nowadays you'd have to sell your car to watch a fight of this magnitude.
I remember some cold winter mornings as a kid doing my paper round on.I would see Lloyd running down the Walworth rd every morning. He put the work in, total respect. That was at a time when you could get to see a mandatory defence fight between boxer's at there prime with unbeaten records, now the champ would give up one of the belts for a easier pay day.
Those guys were real warriors during that time, I respect them to the fullest,but what saddens me is when those guys end their career broke and in bad health.so I respect these new age champions for securing their future,over their legacy.its prize fighting. They should be consciously chasing the biggest prize,especially if it's an easier pay day.
One of the greatest performances by a british fighter abroad EVER against the best pound for pound of the time. Thanks Lloyd - stunning and never forgotten.
@blah blah I watched it on world of sport the following afternoon and I remember jumping up and down buzzing,shouting YEAHHHH DON CURRY,HE DID IT,HE BEAT DON CURRY!
he won by headbutt....is this part of his greatest knockouts?
Spot on Nigel, Honeyghan provided one of THE greatest moments in sporting history.
I would rate Michael Spinks at this time higher than Curry, mike had dominated the light heavies and beaten Larry Holmes, first time a ligt hea had done that, also i would rate J C Chavez higher than curry, but to each their own, Curry was a damn good fighter and Lloyd went in there and got it done.
@@robertsaladino who said it was his greatest knockout apart from you? It's his greatest win. And if the fight didn't get stopped, it would have ended up been a KO or Curry would quit. Curry didn't want to fight any more, he was dejected and looked relieved it was over.
Back again watching this masterclass for the 40th time. A legendary night for British boxing.
We share the last name Zami?
Yes definitely a masterclass performance! Funny, what prompted me to watch this fight, I was watching a nature program where a mongoose was fighting a Cobra. Our English Mongoose did us proud!
Great upload thank you. Maybe Curry was weight drained but still, he believed along with 99% of others he'd still have too much for Honeyghan. What a win this was, one of the best performances of the whole 1980's.
Honeyghan was butting Don Curry all throughout can't believe people don't see it smh
Lloyd was a massive underdog. I remember just a small write up in the newspaper about the upcoming fight but after Lloyd won it ws full page news
I remember that too, literally front and back pages of the Daily mail.
Outstanding performance from Lioyd Honeyghan.
I always thought Curry was overrated and thought Honeyghan would win, despite the odds.
@coffeeinthemorning
if any other fighter had that record today they would be in a p4p shout. you can do the "oh who did he beat?" but a hair above everyone else at the time and young as well.
every curry fight he was on level reputation with his opponent. milton mccrory, marlon starling, colin jones, la rocca he was on a level pegging and he seemed to just get better and better with every performance and emphatic. hearns, spinks hagler and i think wilf gomez had titles at the time. it was still curry who was considered p4p at the time. add to the fact that this fight was just to get it done and move up to 154 then 160 eventially.
think of it more like tito trinidad before he goes in against hopkins. we know what we know now.
i watched this with my dad with on itv brought back great memories Llyodd said I don't get paid for overtime
waiting years for good quality viewing of this fight thanks dave kirkwood
This was Honeygans absolute peak and all against the odds he beat Curry convincingly.
Saw it live in September of 1986 ! My eyes could notbelieve what i was seeing i thought at that time that Curry was unbeatable!!!
Honeyghan underrated fighter...loved his style and character
I was a huge Curry fan but had never seen this fight. I only gave him one round. That first big punch by Honeygan just seemed to take the starch out of him. What a shocker. Thanks for posting!!!
I remember watching this fight live. I had told my dad we were going to see a Brit get knocked out by The Cobra. How wrong I was and how delighted to see the quality of Lloyd Honeyghan with a fantastic win.
the great legends Mickey duff reg gutterigge some fantastic memories God bless you guys
dont forget dickie davies
Jack Singh , 100% mate,remember watching this with my dad(RIP). Brings a tear of joy every time I’ve seen this since!
Even Teddy Atlas had respect for Mickey!
And Jim Watt - the best summariser of all time. And a world champion too.
Don't forget dear old Harry
The Cobra locked horns with the mongoose and the mongoose ripped him apart. Magnificent Honeyghan.
Remember watching this on tv and being shocked by the result and having no one to share it with, thanks for the upload!
Don Curry was ‘the man’ at the time of this fight, ranked pound for pound the best fighter in the world. Nicknamed the Cobra, Curry’s left right combination was delivered at lightening speed, and very dangerously for a succession of opponents. That makes Lloyd Honeyghan’s performance on the night, even more remarkable. I was mesmerised at the time, as I saw this brilliant performance unfold. Totally took the steam away from Curry, perhaps the greatest Brutish performance on American soil, given the undeniable quality of his unbeaten opponent.
First boxing match I recall seeing on TV as I think it was shown earlier in the day, plus my aunt was one of his many girlfriends at the time so mum made me watch it. LEGENDARY moment in British boxing.
best performance by a british boxer over seas ever
Yes, I was about to post the same statement.
The Cobra was a Superstar.
I networks over here didnt even show the fight.
They looked at it like the fasty LLoyd was gonna get his head bus by Curry.
@@xr6607 the fight was on bbc as i remember
Agreed, that this was the best overseas performance although Fury beating Wilder must run it close.
MiiiĆHÄËL ÄFRiiiCÄ TUCKER That’s where I saw it too. Reg Gutteridge and Jim Watt were always ITV commentators.
agreed
As a big Curry fan at that time, this fight broke my heart
Yeah, whilst being a great and deserved win for Honeyghan, in terms of Boxing Curry's loss robbed us of some potential superfights down the line, as his potential was much bigger than Lloyd's. Honeyghan went on to have a fairly average reign as Champion. His biggest fight after this was probably his defeat to Starling a few years later. have fought Hagler before Leonard got to him, or at least been in a great position to fight the winner.
This Joker didn't defeat the Real Donald Curry!
@@2000Majicman Curry was undefeated at the time, you spoon.
Why? Lloyd was the no1 contender for a reason. He only started dropping after a couple of years after this fight because his hands turned to dust. Up until that point he was unfightable at WW. Don didn't pick Lloyd he had to fight him, he just was a mismatch against a slippery quick high work rate fighter like Lloyd.
@@2000Majicman Are you a bit simple?
What a golden age of boxing it was for G.B at that time.... Honeyghan, Mcguigan, Benn , and the underrated Laing
Laing v Duran was the biggest upset ever!
Honeyghan is Jamaican, McGuigan is Irish, and Laing was Jamaican. Nigel Benn is the only British one.
@@ravenaussie3760strewth you are a raving aussie arent you with all your outback prejudices. Lloyd was a Londoner yer drongo...cant you hear the cockney accent...he had a British psssport so did Laing. In case youve been at the 4x mate they were British West Indians.
I remember how big Curry became after he knocked out McCrory. Always kind of felt the boxing establishment was trying hard to fill the void of Sugar Rays retirement by really pushing Curry. He was obviously good, but I felt they overdid it. I remember him gracing the cover of many magazines. The guy was close to being a household name for a year.
I remember, your right.
true say
I remember things exactly the same way. Once he stopped McCrory, he was catapulted by the writers, reporters, etc. All in the name of minting A brand new " Sugar Ray . "
Only in a Boxing fan's house would Curry have been a household name. The guy had absolutely no charisma at all.
Honeyghan is the most underrated welterweight of all time.
How was he underrated? He defeated some top quality fighters and won the world title. However, he was stopped by Marlon Starling and Mark Breland.
I agree
@@HemanParkFilms mark Breland being one of America's best ever amateurs, and a world champion. A very, VERY good boxer, and it's absolutely no stain whatsoever to lose to mark Breland.
@@HemanParkFilms He wasn't in his prime in those fights, he had alot of problems going on outside of the ring. And yes, he is underrated. He beat Donald Curry at his best and also beat an undefeated Maurice Blocker. He's a top 10 welterweight of all time IMO but he doesn't get the recognition other welterweight champions do.
@Paul Blackman Never said he was but Mayweather is far from underrated.
Used to see Lloyd down the Walworth rd often. Great boxer
Micky Duff. Legend. I remember someone on the radio (UK) saying he asked his friend on the train to work what round Honeyghan got knocked out in (the fight being sleep time UK and Curry regarded as the new Sugar Ray Leonard) and was astounded to hear Honey was world champion!
A masterclass by the “RAGAMUFFIN”. Exceptional nimble footwork always up on his toes which I feel was why Curry couldn’t catch Lloyd cleanly, also added to amazing hand speed and sharpness of punch. Just an immaculate display of cool,composed and controlled aggressive boxing. Lovely 😊 to watch. Hats off to LLOYD “Ragamuffin” HONEYGHAN Undisputed Welterweight Champion. ♥️🙏☝️
Thanks for the upload mate, remember watching it live.
Yep Curry had weight issues but sometimes a boxer peaks in one fight and this was Lloyd's, a very good and often overlooked Brit 🥊
Jim Watt the man. Loved his perceptive insight and think his commentary set off the English love of the Glaswegian accent!
Wow, I remember this, what a fantastic fight and once in a lifetime win!!!! well done Lloyd - this makes you a legend!
That evening Honeygham was possessed and took no prisoners. Brilliant display against all the odds.
Curry wot a wanker
36 years later its still the best performance by a british fighter in a American ring , Curry at the time was ranked top pound for pound fighter by ring magazine
Honeyghan ripped the crown from the champs head. This was the perfect challenger. Fantastic preparation for this fight
People say that Curry lost to Honeyghan because he was weight drained. However, Curry has said that the reason why he lost wasn't because he was weight drained. But because he couldn't get motivated to fight Honeyghan.
He had become the undisputed welterweight champion of the world with his win over Milton McCrory and wanted to move up in weight to fight the likes of Hagler, Hearns and Leonard. However, whilst waiting for the big fights to materialise he decided to keep busy by fighting Honeyghan in a mandatory defence of his titles.
Honeyghan won because he was far more motivated than Curry. He realised that this was his opportunity to achieve fame and fortune and he took it with both hands. In contrast Curry had started believing in his own hype and thought that he was a certainty to win against an unknown fighter from England. As such, he didn't prepare as well as he could have and received a nasty shock on the night, one from which his career never really recovered.
The moral of the story is 'there is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.'
Very well stated.
Curry says the same about all his losses. It's was well-known beforehand that Curry had major problems making 147 and was really fighting at a weight he could no longer healthily make. I remember pics of him training and running in a full plastic suit shortly before the Colin Jones fight and that was 20 months before this fight. I think killing himself to make weight (he was 11 pounds over 3 days before the fight) for a fight against a guy he knew nothing about demotivated him too, not to mention the management hassles he was having at the time. Regardless, he looked drained coming into the ring and had no sharpness or strength. Honeyghan looked much stronger in close, yet Curry was known for being strong and well-balanced inside (see Jones, Starling etc). He was rocked badly by the first clean shot Honeyghan landed. I agree with you that for Honeyghan, this was the biggest moment of his career, but for Curry it was a necessary obligation and that motivation was lacking. But the weight was the biggest deciding factor imo.
@@johnniea4684 It's a boxer's responsibility to be in the best possible condition . If a champion can't make the weight , then vacate the title and move up a weight class .
No shame in that , in fact that's the smart thing to do .
Over the years I've lost count of the cheats , excuses and bent decisions that British fighters have suffered fighting American fighters in America . The only place harder to win a decision is Italy !
@@johnniethepom2905 Completely agree. I will say that Curry's lawsuit against Ray Leonard + his manager/lawyer Mike Trainer alleged that they'd advised him to delay vacating his welterweight title (he was due to challenge McCallum at light middle in 1986 + had been testing the waters at 154 in no title bouts). The McCallum fight was the first step to a projected mega fight with middleweight champion Marvin Hagler. Curry's suit stated that Leonard/Trainer were confidants who deliberately mislead him as they had their own secret plan for Sugar Ray to make a comeback + fight Hagler himself. Just his story.
@@johnniea4684 That version is plausible . A life lesson in the treachery that friends and confidante are capable of when big $$$ are on the table .
Jeez I remember watching this like it was yesterday ...brilliant 👌
A saturday afternoon on ITV wasnt it ?
GREAT days
bigdaddy4069 lol,cannot remember just remember jumping around the living room with my brother when Lloyd won. ...being boxing fans...my bro’s regular read was the ring ...no internet then...no bloody mobiles.
MiiiĆHÄËL ÄFRiiiCÄ TUCKER What is it time of the month.🤣😂🤣😂🤣
MiiiĆHÄËL ÄFRiiiCÄ TUCKER Yah got the the double whammy there lol
I remember this as a kid the raga muffin man doing the business me and my brother travelled 250 miles 2 c the champ parade the belt round carnby st on a truck magic performance
Yes fantastic fighter he used to take his staffys with him when he had a fight.
Everyone at work laughed at me when I said Honeyghan would do a number on curry.
What year was that
Don't blame them mate. Nobody saw that coming who knew anything about boxing! The Mirror boxing guy actually thought that Honeyghan shouldn't be allowed to fight Curry (despite being his mandatory), is was that much of a mismatch.
I was 17yrs old at the time and thought Curry would stop Honeyghan but i wanted Lloyd to win so bad. I couldn’t believe my eyes the way he came out so sharp and determined putting Curry on the back foot in what to me is the greatest upset by a British fighter, with a legendary performance.
This was massive back then, people were saying Curry could not be beat and he's a all time great!! The Ragga muffin man had other ideas! One of my favourite fights ever!!
@8yrs old,we stayed up to watch (UK time) with Pops 💙
If he was around now he’d have made millions
But he's broke like a joke, a joke champion!
@@2000Majicman Behave yourself kid and show some respect. The guy had more talent in his pinkie than you’ll have in your life.
@@2000Majicman Better to have tasted success and spent the rewards than be living in your mum's basement , criticizing a world champion while you have Macca's burger sauce dribbling down your chin .
One of the Greatest British victories EVER! Don Curry was by far the best fighter in this division by far! Curry was in same class as Sugar Ray Leonard! Almost unbeatable! To do this in the States too was incredible! I remember it well, and honestly love Lloyd Honeygan, but I didn't give him a chance to be honest! He shud have been called The Legend Lylod Honeygan after this win! Performance of his life!😮
I remember watching this fight live . Probably my most favourite fight of all time .
Honeyghan shook up the world that night nobody though he could win including me curry was never the same after one of the greatest performances of any boxer ever probably the greatest by a British boxer
Great fighter always use to see him around walworth road area around that time he always approachable good guy .
Remember this fight. A year after Barry McGuigan won the world championship. We had some great boxers in the 80’s. A young Michael Buffer as well !!
I remember Jim Watt said when sparring Honeyghan, Lloyd was incredibly hard to catch cleanly.
you remember it, because he says it at the biggining of the broadcast. Damn how much weed you been smoking man. 😂😂
When honeyghan trained hard for a fight he was excellent. When he did not train hard and partied hard he was anything but excellent.
Lloyd has the best cockney/Jamaican accent ever!
Raggamuffin style
To win this against at the time the current p4p best,was, absolutely stunning,incredible win,right up there with Tyson v Douglas,seriously,it was massive.Maybe not as recognised in terms of household names et cetera but this was enormous.
Same referee in both fights by the way.
I know Mark I said that in my other comment. Cheers though buddy
Remember this like yesterday, he was the reason I started fisher boxing club
God bless you brother.
I trained at the Karmand centre in bradford, which gave us the likes of Junior Witter, Bobby Vanzie, Femi Fehintola and many other great boxers.
Peace and blessings to you brother.
That is beautiful.
Legendary boxing club
I listened to this fight on the radio so exciting!!
Young people will never quite understand what a shock result this was...
Thanks David for a good memory
I was 12 watching this...loved Lloyds energy and how fearless he was coming in to this fight. You can see round by round how he was slowly demoralising Curry. Curry didnt want to know anymore, even if the cut never happened Curry knew he wasn't beating Lloyd on this night...laser focus
A great victory for Lloyd Honeyghan.
The same referee oversaw an even bigger upset in Tokyo in 1990.
Buster Douglas dethroning Iron Mike Tyson.
Great knowledge
Bigger upset? Honeyghan defeating Curry inspired a tribute song by The Jesus and Mary Chain: Just Like Honey.
Name me one song inspired by Biggie Smalls KOing Tyson ? i'll wait .... thought so
Great Knowledge x 2. Octavio got to witness some big upsets. No one and mean no one gave Honeyghan chance in this fight. Honeyghan's unorthodox boxing just caused Curry some many problems. SRL said it best, the unorthodox fighters are harder to fight than conventional fighters.
Octavio Meyran, king of the upsets
@bam bam I was just thinking the same thing. It wasn't Google.
I was at the NEC in Birmingham watching Bruno against Fergusson and Lloyd was next to me in the toilet. It was just after he was attacked with a hammer. I remember him telling me he was feeling better but couldnt fight again
I remember that Deb.
And do you know what?
Lloyd still told 'ARRY he felt good lol
From Abergavenny in South Wales; our hero Colin Jones had been cut to pieces by Curry and we thought the man was unbeatable. What Honeyghan did was truly incredible and we all loved him for it.
Incidentally, you will notice that the referee is the same referee who officiated in the Tyson v Douglas fight. You don’t want this man standing in a fight if you’re the champ 😂
The greatest upset victory by a British fighter ever.
SuperRayrobinson Curry was thinking about his gay lovers a little too much that fight👀
@SuperRayrobinson With a name like yours, I thought you would have heard of Randolph Turpin...
@@ppuh6tfrz646 😆👍
Kirkland Laing beating Roberto Duran was up there with it to.
@@yorkieelliot2487 I would have to disagree there.
It wasn't a title fight and I think that makes a big difference.
Memories of when I was a kid.
when my mate told me this fight was being made i
told him Honeyghan wont last 5 rounds Lol
Stunning win against the odds. The Raggamuffin Man dethrones the P4P No.2.
Curry never recovered from this defeat😒
Loyd was the reason why tboxer have to stand up from the stool before the bell rings. In one fight the bell rang and he jumped up ran over to the other boxer wnd hit him before he got off his stool
I remember this, think it was Gene Hatcher? When they interviewed Lloyd he said, "The bell went ding and I went dong!"
LH threw every punch with bad intentions, he was and still is a very hard man. Remember this so well he was class!
This fight changed the landscape of boxing in the 80's.
Curry was looking like a legend in the making before this.
For me, this is in the Top 5 performances for a UK fighter.
Honeyghans best performance, he was never this good again….
Always one of my favourites honeyghan 🥊👍
Class Honeygan,,,,he was great
barrow boy from bermondsy shook up the boxing world,lovely story
i can remember watching this, no-one expected him to beat curry,great performance
Honeyghan said that the only time he has seen Don Curry since their fight was in a Las Vegas gym. Curry was working out and after he had finished he went up to Curry and said "Do you remember me?" Curry said "Man you ruined my career" and walked away without another word.
Lots of oohs and arghs from the Americans as Honeyghan lays into the champ, the great Reg Gutterigde my favourite boxing commentator
Great memories of a great night for Lloyd & the team.
Does anyone remember him being interviewed by Harry Carpenter and say “The bell went ding and I went dong” after charging over to Johnny Bumphus’s corner and banjoing him before he barley got from his stool?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
remember that
I don’t get paid overtime!
I remember the Americans saying that there should be an ambulance outside waiting to take Honeyghan to hospital when the fight was stopped.
There was an ambulance waiting when the fight was stopped.
And it took Curry to hospital to be checked over. 🥊
My dad boxed for fisher boxing club in the late 50s xxx❤❤
i said to all my mates on day of fight honeyghan would destroy curry was laughed out the bookies but i had last laugh at 10 to 1 odds
I would really have loved to see Honeyghan vs Laing.
Steve Bailey and Honeyghan vs Colin Jones also 👍🥊🇬🇧
@BestCanKeanRob2 Twice in the 9th round by knockout.
What an upset this was it was unbelievable a real highlight for me in the golden era of boxing in the 80's.
I remember this being a massive boxing upset at the time - no one saw it coming.
@coffeeinthemorning I agree, could never understand the fuss around him and thought Lloyd would win and so it proved.
This is the first time I watched Honeyghan and I'm impressed. He kinda reminds me of Featherweight Champion Eusebio Pedroza. I came here because of an article made by a Filipino writer comparing Manny Pacquiao to the champion of 80's. He said Honeyghan won't stand a chance against Pacquiao.
Now that's the definition of an athlete who works harder trains harder tries harder and plays harder
Omg ron still goes on about the old skool days when he went to some of ur fights and after u didn't wanna party just watch boxing on tv after hahaha omd that dedication but yeh still top dog although u retired ages ago legend 1love jah bless always
This was a complete shock.At the time curry was pound for pound top 5.He wasnt given a chance to win by all experts.
At the time Curry was P4P number one. Hagler was on the decline and inactive and Tyson and Julio Cesar Chavez hadn't quite got to their top.
My dad boxed for fisher boxing in the 50s and 60s ❤
I remember watching this...Not seen honeyghan for years..
Good performance by Honeyghan but it was well known Curry was having big problems making the weight and it showed from round one. Fighters who take a beating when weight drained never have much punch resistence from then on.
Was too slow .
Me and 2 friends had been out clubbing in London and listened to this fight live on my car radio at about 5am.I think we woke up most of the neighbourhood when this was stopped!. Whether Curry was weight drained or not, Honeyghan did what he had to do and beat what was in front of him,top performance.I was a fan of Curry and there was talk at the time of a potential fight with Marvin Hagler, instead Curry fought Mike McCallum and we know what happened there
Incredible performance from the whole team.
In my opinion the greatest victory ever by a british fighter - lest not forget, at the time Donald Curry was not only considered the P4P best at the time, but was already being mentioned as a potential GOAT.
Curry's people were taunting honeyghan about DC's making 147lbs, repeatedly telling LH it was Curry's "knockout weight."
I never liked Curry as a fighter, he had skills, power and decent speed but, he had the fatal habit of not utilizing strategic lateral movement. He would stand in front of his opponent too long and get nailed. Say you want about Ray Leonard, in his prime he knew how to use that movement.
Yeh he was always there for the receipt. I didn't like the way Curry used to bend forward on the inside and leave himself open to chopping hooks or uppercuts either. I think defensively he was poor. Great at slipping and countering from within the pocket, but open on the inside, and would go straight back when attacked (McCallum)
@@davidbowen6284 McCallum was the ultimate exposer of Curry because he pointed out after their fight that he easily decoded his patterned movements and after a few rounds he could simply time him coming in and then moving out wide open. Not useful attribute for a fighter to give everything away by being a telegrapher in the ring.
And that's the same ref who refereed Tyson Vs Douglas Two massive upsets,Octavio Mayran.
Still my favourite ever British fighter!
Got up to listen to this live on the radio.. I thought the lonestar cobra was unbearable, how wrong I was. Des Lyneham was the commentators on bbc radio. I still have that comentary.
That right hand in the first round made curry afraid to throw his jab for the rest of the fight...if i can see it written all over Curry's face you can be dam sure honeyghan knows it... you've got to forget about it... it's like curry wasn't mentally prepared for honeyghan...
I remember watching this as a 13 year old! Great fight. Unfortunately this was the high water mark for LH, and he never really kicked on. I'm not sure why.
FANTASTIC
This is undoubtedly the most talented fighter to come out of Europe. He was americanesque
lloyd has a crazy different collection of accents part british , part jamican and a little bit of new York in there
I was thinking the same thing.