Very true. It rings true with how they were talking about themselves. Telling anyone that would listen how good they were and what extreme circumstances they work in. Merely subterfuge to aollow them to try and make some money before they got found out.
Weeeeellllllll...its better to be looking at it than for it!! What a disgrace! It's a shame that they didn't take pride in their work....I've been a sparks for 20 years, industrial, commercial and domestic...I always take a photo of my work....not for anyone else, just me, because I'm proud of my work...Great job and video my friend
Sorry to see it get you so down mate! It’s a terrible situation that. Cowboys bro 👍 So now every cable has to be tested due to them not rewriting the specified number so the next person can verify it! That’s pure incompetence!
I have walk away from jobs like that, simply because I would of lost money on the job, because they didn't want to pay for me putting the job right, before I could could do my job properly
😮😮😮 wtf... that is horrific Good solid work by yourself thou😊😊😊😊 love watching your videos. Everything we do needs to have pride in our work Seen one "Electrician" tell me hes done 11kv cabling, big contracts this and that...and then put live conductor to earth on a light fiting and couldn't get it to work on council contract....i had to go out after hours to see why the rcd wouldnt go back on... Its absolutely shocking why tell big porkies...just say and be honest if your a new electrican and need help or something 😲 . We all start somewhere but shouldn't take something on if your clueless...
Hello again Ynot 👊 Can you explain how this impacts you financially? Fixing those fcuk-ups is just like installing the cable again, and more, is it not? Or am I missing something I'm not aware of?
It impacts me because it slows me down. Taking them out and making things correct takes longer than doing it right the first time. I wasnt thousands of pounds out of pocket but it will have been a few hundred by the time it was fixed.
I have said this before. A clerk of works (CoW) is needed before people/contractors get paid. Once people are paid they are less inclined to come back to resolve issue for free. People who pride their work would not leave it like that in the first place and secondly if they were called back for an issue. They would get there and fix the issue FOC (Free Of Charge). This is why people like Tony have a great reputation at doing his job. When Tony leaves site and tells you it's done, you know it is done properly.
I completely agree with the first statement you've made. In the long run it would keep costs down too. I will just say thank you for your second statement 👍🏻👍🏻
Problem is RUclips, when experts in their field like Tony make jointing look easy anybody watching thinks I can do that. However as Tony will testify it's far from straightforward and only experience gets you to the finish line correctly. Was the jointing firm just full of labourers with ideas above their station?
Man, man, man, what a bunch of amateurs. We have figures like that here in Holland too. Guys who don't master the profession, but want to make a quick buck. Professionals like you can fix it because it is totally irresponsible to leave it like that. And when asked later who made this shit, you will be unjustly accused. I can stand that so badly too if it's not professionally installed.
This affects other industries too where it appears that young inexperienced staff are behaving in an overly self assured manner - which they must have learned at skool... Then when they inevitably make a big mistake - zero remorse, efforts to learn from it, or offer to make right.
I don't get why you have to suffer financially (apart from psychologically), whoever pays you to do your job should pay you to fix that shit and invoice the cowboy firm for the time involved 🤷♂️
It's the whole industry going the same way Tony. People taking on work, but they don't have a clue how to do it properly or safely & a lot of them are leaving stuff in a lethal state.
@@rscelectrical7091 that’s why I went into maintenance. They were letting labourers loose on containment and wiring on a few jobs I was on. That was enough for me to pack the hard hat and SJIB card away. Labourers giving me drawings and telling me how to wire
Is it a UK thing to use armoured cables in domestic and industrial? Not very common in other parts of Europe, unless at a farm, where rodents are present.
I agree it's not good workmanship but I must say, one day, we need to improve the way cables are terminated. The design of glands is terrible and we have tolerated it for years.
Aye even treating it like big diameter Ho7n run it through an ip68 stuffing/compression gland strip to reveal armour inside enclosure snd maybe a constant tension spting with a braided earth like you find in resin/torpedo joints.
Point it out to your customer, and offer to fix it. For a price added to your original offer, of course. They can go claim it from the original installers. Make sure you have everything properly recorded before you offer it. Pointing out to the customer that that shitty job could cost them the building if it burns down might motivate their choice. Then offer to come check any other work that person did for your customer. :)
I think that was the route they went down. I have put in my invoice all of the relevant info of what i had to do. Plus i can direct them to this youtube video if they dont believe me
That looks like the work of someone who did a week with an actual cable jointer,then someone asked them if they could do this work & they said "yeah of course I can" 🙄🙄
Welcome to the new era of instant slideshow-trained experts. It's all gone a bit qualifications-4-cash.
Very true. It rings true with how they were talking about themselves. Telling anyone that would listen how good they were and what extreme circumstances they work in. Merely subterfuge to aollow them to try and make some money before they got found out.
I watch this channel for the pleasure of seeing a professional doing a job with skill and pride.
The lack of QC or clerk of works on sites are shocking now. Used to have everything checked. Now it’s just get it in and worry about it later
Can we appreciate the effort gone into the editing recently too
I've been making a point of trying to get a video per week uploaded. It made a difference to my analytics, that's for sure.
The whole industry is like it and getting worse, way too many times ive lost money putting others shi* right, i feel your pain
Weeeeellllllll...its better to be looking at it than for it!! What a disgrace! It's a shame that they didn't take pride in their work....I've been a sparks for 20 years, industrial, commercial and domestic...I always take a photo of my work....not for anyone else, just me, because I'm proud of my work...Great job and video my friend
Lost for words with this one…
Anyway, great vid as always Tony, I’ve just ordered some exhaust cutters
I've been on jobs like that, poor subbies chucking it in, then the regulars have to spend twice the time putting it right.
Sorry to see it get you so down mate! It’s a terrible situation that. Cowboys bro 👍
So now every cable has to be tested due to them not rewriting the specified number so the next person can verify it! That’s pure incompetence!
I have walk away from jobs like that, simply because I would of lost money on the job, because they didn't want to pay for me putting the job right, before I could could do my job properly
That was the thing. Exactly as youve stated, i couldn't continue with my work until id sorted that mess out. Very frustrating.
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Glad i was only there for the week doing/rectifying those 150's mate. Wouldn't have made a bean on messing around with all that small stuff.
Shocking that....
Very shocking indeed.
😮😮😮 wtf... that is horrific
Good solid work by yourself thou😊😊😊😊 love watching your
videos.
Everything we do needs to have pride in our work
Seen one "Electrician" tell me hes done 11kv cabling, big contracts this and that...and then put live conductor to earth on a light fiting and couldn't get it to work on council contract....i had to go out after hours to see why the rcd wouldnt go back on...
Its absolutely shocking why tell big porkies...just say and be honest if your a new electrican and need help or something 😲 .
We all start somewhere but shouldn't take something on if your clueless...
They clearly messed it up knackered the gland realised they couldn’t put it right easily, packed up and ran.
All of the above except they were told to leave. They got sussed out.
Surely the work has to be signed off before they leave site
Youd think wouldnt you. Most of the time ive have to give a list of cables ive connected. Once theyve been verified, then i get paid.
I take it that no one is checking there work plus get them back to to it right
I dont think anyone checked. I think people trust in the fact that men employed to do a job can actually do it.
Hello again Ynot 👊 Can you explain how this impacts you financially? Fixing those fcuk-ups is just like installing the cable again, and more, is it not? Or am I missing something I'm not aware of?
I suspect that Tony does not get paid to fix the previous teams work but he needs it finished so he can start his work.
It impacts me because it slows me down. Taking them out and making things correct takes longer than doing it right the first time. I wasnt thousands of pounds out of pocket but it will have been a few hundred by the time it was fixed.
I have said this before. A clerk of works (CoW) is needed before people/contractors get paid. Once people are paid they are less inclined to come back to resolve issue for free. People who pride their work would not leave it like that in the first place and secondly if they were called back for an issue. They would get there and fix the issue FOC (Free Of Charge). This is why people like Tony have a great reputation at doing his job. When Tony leaves site and tells you it's done, you know it is done properly.
I completely agree with the first statement you've made. In the long run it would keep costs down too.
I will just say thank you for your second statement 👍🏻👍🏻
Problem is RUclips, when experts in their field like Tony make jointing look easy anybody watching thinks I can do that. However as Tony will testify it's far from straightforward and only experience gets you to the finish line correctly.
Was the jointing firm just full of labourers with ideas above their station?
Man, man, man, what a bunch of amateurs. We have figures like that here in Holland too. Guys who don't master the profession, but want to make a quick buck. Professionals like you can fix it because it is totally irresponsible to leave it like that. And when asked later who made this shit, you will be unjustly accused. I can stand that so badly too if it's not professionally installed.
This affects other industries too where it appears that young inexperienced staff are behaving in an overly self assured manner - which they must have learned at skool...
Then when they inevitably make a big mistake - zero remorse, efforts to learn from it, or offer to make right.
I don't get why you have to suffer financially (apart from psychologically), whoever pays you to do your job should pay you to fix that shit and invoice the cowboy firm for the time involved 🤷♂️
Wow!😮
It's the whole industry going the same way Tony. People taking on work, but they don't have a clue how to do it properly or safely & a lot of them are leaving stuff in a lethal state.
Yeah its bad news at the minute.
Don't I know it mate, I'm doing a 32 plot private housing estate at the minute. I've never seen so much crap work in my life.
Do you try and educate people who need a bit of guidance or do you get all swinging dick about it. As that’s also a big problem so far as I can see.
@@rscelectrical7091 that’s why I went into maintenance. They were letting labourers loose on containment and wiring on a few jobs I was on. That was enough for me to pack the hard hat and SJIB card away. Labourers giving me drawings and telling me how to wire
*SHOCKING*
Is this at Edinburgh
Is it a UK thing to use armoured cables in domestic and industrial? Not very common in other parts of Europe, unless at a farm, where rodents are present.
I agree it's not good workmanship but I must say, one day, we need to improve the way cables are terminated. The design of glands is terrible and we have tolerated it for years.
Aye even treating it like big diameter Ho7n run it through an ip68 stuffing/compression gland strip to reveal armour inside enclosure snd maybe a constant tension spting with a braided earth like you find in resin/torpedo joints.
Chop out the spar or spars on the rack then refit using L brackets etc etc
I took the rungs out above the cables. They wont get replaced because the cables go exactly where the should be.
Point it out to your customer, and offer to fix it. For a price added to your original offer, of course. They can go claim it from the original installers. Make sure you have everything properly recorded before you offer it. Pointing out to the customer that that shitty job could cost them the building if it burns down might motivate their choice. Then offer to come check any other work that person did for your customer. :)
I think that was the route they went down. I have put in my invoice all of the relevant info of what i had to do. Plus i can direct them to this youtube video if they dont believe me
That looks like the work of someone who did a week with an actual cable jointer,then someone asked them if they could do this work & they said "yeah of course I can" 🙄🙄
If the Adams family put it in if it was thing he's done OK withnone hand
It’s not your fault that those cables where terminated like there where, so the time you spent re-terminating should be charged on day works
I put them on my invoice as extra works. Hopefully ill get paid.