the society is good, but also bad
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If Netflix gave the society as many episodes as they did insatiable it would have been paced right
Ty twi yeah there's zero reason this should've been a 10 episode show...this isn't GOT or westworld...society is low budget and should've been at least 16 episodes a season...
Slenderfoxx37 HONESTLY, like Netflix needs to stop giving shows only 10 episodes to work with, cause that’s honestly barely anything to work with, with some of the show concepts.
Ty twi ikr. The only show I've seen work with low episodes is stranger things...Orange is the new black worker fairly good...could've used another season or two though.
I think it's a magic number. Netflix needs to stop doing that.
@@slenderfoxx3797 bruh what the hell would they film for the other 6eps, the 8/10 were pretty boring already
Campbell and Elle’s relationship was a huge reason why I love the show. Everytime they were in a scene I literally got chills because I never knew what Campbell was going to do. The actress who played Elle is amazing. Her expressions and emotions are so amazing.
kcheesa RIGHT?!
When Elle first appeared I thought she would be a basic ballerina girl, but she turned out to be such an interesting character who brought so much to the show. Also, when those two are on it always puts me in the edge of my seat, for example in the thanksgiving episode, I was sooooo nervous for Elle
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sam: campbell is a psychopath, he doesn't feel remorse and guilt
campbell: *is revealed to be evil*
everyone on the show: what?!/?!?! but hOw!?11?!11!???
edit: having antisocial personality disorder isn't the same thing as being evil, ofc, so the way the show frames that is kinda problematic, but it's still weird that ppl were surprised that campbell was an asshole
Moral of the story: When in doubt, ALWAYS listen to Sam, and never trust the obviously evil, untrustworthy psychopath.
Sam: he's a psychopath
People who knows this: *doesn't warn Campbell's girlfriend*
just an alternative emo kid RIGHT
Clarisa Gonzalez EXACTLY LIKE WHAT TF
just an alternative emo kid I get it. Like come on because everyone expects him to be evil he was supposed to contradict that but the didn’t. He did exactly what we didn’t want him to do.
imagine a dystopia story
without romance subplots..
It’s like...I feel like that’s not the most important thing right now you guys might die any minute LOL
I'd be fucking like crazy tho if I knew shit was dreadful
True, the most interesting aspect of this show is the teen government/no adult society/alternative dimension plot, yet they felt that it wouldn't hold up without some sort of dramatic teen love square entanglement.
Also highly unrealistic... Believe it or not, teens actually fuck a lot and get very caught up in relationships lmao
idk, the world might implode
i completely agree with how rushed the society is. it makes the series less sentimental in my opinion. i also completely agree with your take on the relationships. i was trying to figure out why grizz and sam were the only relationship i was invested in, and i think its because the show didnt outright say that they were going to be together. we got to watch their relationship form and grow which is why i love them so much
Even grizz and sams relationship could be better if they slowed it down. If we had more moments of Grizz’s inner conflict with allowing him to be himself and be with Sam since coming out is a pretty big deal to most people even if you know the person would accept you. I just feel like his character would feel more like a person
Alana Brown
I feel like the only reason everyone likes their relationship is because they're GAY
honestly, i don't think grizzam had as much of a well-developed relationship as they could have had, because of how fast it all was. i mean, i absolutely ship them and i'd love them to see them develop in their relationship more in the next season (if there will be one), but it seemed like the creators rushed their relationship in one episode. for one, they met the first time in the prom episode (i forgot which ep it was) and they did have a little funny scene, and it was clear that the two had a lot of chemistry. after that scene, however, the interaction was brushed off and ignored UNTIL ep 8. in that episode, grizz met sam the second time and they bonded over interests, struggles, etc. but that was only for one day, and then suddenly they're in love and then they kiss? whereas with relationships like will x allie and helena x luke, they were given the whole show to develop their relationship. if other relationships are given so much time to develop, then why is grizzam the exception? maybe love at first sight? doubtful. because to me, it just felt like lazy writing.
of course, you dont have to agree and i completely accept that, but that's just my take on it. again i do ship grizzam a lot but i just wish the creators did better at portraying their relationship (esp since it's the only lgbt rep in the show)
I'm not trying to offend anyone here but throughout this whole thing I've just kept wondering, what is the point in Sam signing? It's like incredible how he can just read everyone's lips so easily and knows what everyone is saying, but then that add the signing along with the words, and it makes it a little confusing for me. Like when Campbell and Sam would argue, but it would be in sign-language it almost softened Campbell as a character because he was signing for Sam even when he didn't have to. Only the people that cared about Sam tried to sign for him; this is shown for Becca and especially Grizz. If Campbell is obviously a psychopath who doesn't care about anyone, then why would he bother to sign for Sam? I might be reading too much into this, but I can't help feeling like the severity and emotions of certain scenes was watered down when they started signing. I know that the representation is really important and I was so excited to see this deaf character, but I am so not used to it shown in media that I think it's hard for me to understand. When Grizz signed it was really powerful and emotional and important to the story, but when some other characters did, it didn't strike me the same way. I think it would be really cool for season 2 to have flashbacks, for many reasons such as plot development. And for the flashbacks for Sam, they had the audio muted or dulled so that we would see what it's like for Sam and help us understand his character.
@@skullkid6439 I don't agree. It was really sweet. Grizz trying (and initially failing) to learn Sign Language to talk to Sam, their nervous/cute interaction with each other, the fact that (at least in my opinion) they were both actually likable characters. I don't feel like any of the others really had that chemistry. I was kinda holding out hope for Gordie/Cassandra, but that ended when she died so...
For a second when I saw the title I thought that she meant like society in real life and I was really confused.
Same, also because I didn't know this show existed lol
Missing out, you guys should watch it.
Netflix needs to stop limiting shows to 10 episodes a season.
I agree with almost everything you said but I honestly can't believe that you didn't even mention Elles and Campbells relationship, like that was probably the biggest reason that I finished the show, because the were the least boring "couple", ya know, since Campbells a psychopath
Alva hejsan ikr I was surprised she didn’t mention it
Ditto, they make be the most unpredictable couple in the show, but they're by far the most problematic, due to how Campbell constantly manipulates and controls Elle.
Exactly. This was exciting to watch
yeah, specially since Becca is so annoying. I much prefer to follow Elle.
@@juliagaaszewska1275 I actually found it awful to watch. It always made me feel frustrated because elle's forced to be with him because everyone else shunned her and treated her like she was a shitty person or something. Like, what's the point of showing a girl going into an abusive relationship without any hope of her getting help and getting out of it? It's just depressing and, frankly, boring to watch for me. she literally tries to kill herself by eating the poisoned pie, but the writers still won't let her have peace. it's just sad to see, knowing that if anyone had been kind to her, she would've avoided it.
my only real problem with the show is actually the characters. i find most of them irritating. i feel like the dialogue is unnecessarily aggressive like even though the circumstances are serious i often found myself being like calm down. they take themselves so seriously and they snap at each other so much to the point where its kind of weird to me. and a lot of the time when i knew i was supposed to be feeling sympathy toward certain characters i just felt annoyed and thought they were being dramatic
Most of the time my response was: this could all be solved if people just sat down, took a breath and...talked.
I agree, I had real issues with the dialogue and the behaviour of characters. The lines were super vague and expressionless. It took me out of episode because they were all so weird and dramatic.
I rewatched it recently and it Allie’s pretentious monologues really annoyed me, like in the first episode where she tells Elle a random story (o forgot what about) that wasn’t linked the situation at all because she didn’t give someone some carrots.
I love grizz and Sam, the rest are just annoying
@@jikkebouma5512 Even Sam pissed me off near the end. Grizz clearly cared for him and wouldn't have told everyone that he wasn't the father of his friends baby (despite the fact that no one cared). It wasn't even entertaining drama.
I agree that it was rushed. I wish there were flashbacks to show what their lives were previously like, or at least have that as the first episode. This can show why everyone hates Elle, shots of Allie being in Cassandra’s shadow, the tensions between Sam and Campbell. This way, the audience would be able to connect to the characters and better understand them. It also would have been cool to see the town have conflicts for more than five minutes. Like people accepted the coup waaayyy too easily and what if they were to show people becoming desperate for food. Also, Grizz’s struggle with himself would have been an amazing addition.
i totally agree with the flashbacks. that would've been such an interesting thing to see to build story arc but all we saw was the characters in their new environment and we were just presented with the backsory (it was very 2 dimensional)
ALSO Lexi was the hoarder girl????
Hmm... I'm starting to think you're absolutely right when you mentioned the show had way too many characters and was way too short to properly introduce all their stories 🤔
I literally lost track of most story arks now that I think about it
Diogo I thought she was, but I didn’t check to make sure so I could be wrong
julia cudney yeah it was her, I remember
I literally can't remember half of the characters names
@@williamshinn1319 right, crazy!
Diogo not to mention a lot of them look alike. Every time I was watching and they would mention Clark I thought he was suppose to be Campbell.
“What if we knew that girl that died long enough that I could remember her name?”
Honestly same. I just call her ‘snake bite girl’
the show definitely should have ended with Cassandra's death. I mean, I was shocked and saddened by it when it did happen, in episode 3, bc I loved her character so much and felt like she had a lot of potential to be a great protagonist. I can't imagine how I would have felt having 7 more episodes with her and then watching her tragically die in the end. Perhaps they wanted to get everything jammed into the 1st season because a) they didnt know if there would a 2nd or b) wanted more room to once again cram way too much into the next season lol. but I loved it anyways
I feel like it would’ve been a lot better if:
1) they don’t return home until the beginning of the second episode (spending more time on life before everything happened)
2) they “stretched” what happened in one episode into two episodes
3) explained the smell??? What even was that lmao
I’m sure they’ll explain the smell in season 2
Weed. They were all high. This didn’t even happen.
@@amalia9285 we won’t kno that. Cause Netflix cancelled it . Soooo…
All I care about is grizz and sam tbh
Ekin Akkilic
Because they're gay? Let's be honest
@@skullkid6439 No, cause they are the nicest people 🙄 Literally Sam lied to everyone to help his best friend, even though it really hurt Grizz. And Grizz is just a bean, like he is so nice 😊
Doireann Graham
You can't speak for someone else, I'm not asking you this question so why reply?
The only reason I'm watching is specifically Grizz, he is the best character in my opinion, because he's smart and he cares about all the other main characters. And I liked Sam because he and Becca were honestly the best duo of the show. Non-romanically obviously.
bel410la
I mean to be frank, Cassandra was smart and also cared for everyone else, if she had stayed longer she would've been the best character tbh. Griz honestly just seems like your average foot-ball player with actual brains which makes him stand-out more from the rest.
The will harry ally kelly thing confused me. Also i feel like there was no point to kelly except for when she became a doctor
literally same. lol i was trying to figure their love square out in every episode
The only problem I had was how no one found out about Harry and Allie sleeping together when Harry and Kelly were still together. They could have used that later on to help show that that is another reason that Kelly wanted to break up.
F G tbh yeah but at the last episodes she really got character development and she became one of my favs
F G same Kelly is so boring lol
Ally and will felt soo forced. Like, i didn't even saw it coming. Also, i am so mad that Campbell turned out to be a real psycho, they could have made him a really interesting character
Agreed!
cami 1999 I think they show his complexity when he cares for Ellie and breaks when he speaks about his family. But I think people dismiss this because they aren’t positive feelings lol but that’s the point - he can’t feel right and wrong so he just does whatever he wants - but his evil behavior comes from a place deep rooted. So I can’t wait to explore this in S2
i hated hallie too tho
Last time I was this early, Campbell was a likable character
So, since the 12th of Never?😉
So never
First 5 seconds where we don't know anything about him, before he insults Sam, Threatens to shoot Cassandra and convinces all the snobby kids to go party with him while all the other kids are trying to find a solution to the problem?
i actually love the show but i have to agree with you when you say it is very rushed. i feel like the show's pacing, characters, etc could've been better and could've explored more themes that displayed in real life. also i feel like most of the storylines are drifted away after one or more episodes. also cassandra died in episode 3....fucked up. we should've seen her live in the next few episodes. even though i love the society, i expected more from the series.
I was so disappointed that the show was not renewed as I really appreciated it’s different take on a teen “dystopian” drama. I loved the characters and was really invested in how the season would leave them.
I have enjoyed these actors in other projects and they all excelled in this as well.
For people who have watched the society, here’s the best theory (imo)
First of all Pfeiffer (the man who dropped them off in the bus and was hired to remove the smell) is the German word for piper. There is a German fairytale. It’s called the “pied piper of NEW HAMelin”. Get it ? New ham is the town the society takes place in and New Hamelin is the town in the pied piper fairytale. Anyways, the story take place in new hamelin and a man (pied piper) comes into the town which is infested with rats and tells the mayor that he can play a rat friendly tune on his flute that would send all the rats down to the river and they would drown in the currents... for a certain amount of cash. The mayor agrees and tells him he’d pay for it. The pied piper does his job and comes back to the mayor which has now changed his mind and says that he won’t pay. He ripped the pied piper off. The pied piper gets mad and plays a tune that lures the children of the town down towards the river and they drown.
What have we gathered?
Pied piper (pfeiffer) gets set to do a job but doesn’t get payed (the rat infestation would be the smell of West ham) Kelly and harry saw pfeiffer leaving in a fit because they wouldn’t pay. So what does pfeiffer do ? Takes the kids.
I think it’s roughly based around that story.
I also wonder.......if pfeiffer and whoever drove the other buses dropped them off in new ham and then drove off ..............where did they go ? They’re landlocked. Maybe pfeiffer is still in town. Maybe he’s the one who killed Cassandra because she was too good at her job. She was winning. He was losing. The kids were figuring stuff out too fast and it all stemmed from her. She did look really confused for like a good 5 seconds then asked “why-what are you doing”. Maybe she couldn’t figure out where she had seen his face and then finally figured it out.
positive things: GRIZZ
and like more stuff but you know GRIZZ
"Bughead's first time but edited 10 different ways" JESUS CHRIST
i saw an edit of that scene where all the boys broke in somewhere and one of them was using a gun and he was like "i've never used one but like... how hard can it be lmao" and it was just rly funny lol
just an alternative emo kid YES I loved the raid scene. “This is a fucking raid,” why thank you for clarifying. I thought this was an aggressive invitation to a tea party.
I think that was the point tho the comment was supposed to be about how easy a gun is to use when it can literally kill people
the “guard” were legit some of the best characters until the end when they went to the dark side😔
The raid scene was great,
Grizz: *Mid Raid* "Oh Hey, Carla"
Ummm are we getting a separate Elle and Campbell video bc like that was a super interesting story
YOU COULDN'T FIND ONE THING TO SAY ABOUT ELLE AND CAMPBELLS RELATIONSHIP?
Believe me, Campbell and Elle's relationship is a major talking point, more for the iffy, problematic elements!😱
@@trinaq it's not problematic at all, i mean the show is just portraying an abusive/manipulative relationship.
@callie corriene well I mean thats because it's a major plotline to the story. I think it's a good thing they spent so much time with them because it gives the audience a really expanded view of what the dynamic is.
@@smarty2985 I agree, because the spent so much time on it rather than other couples I got a better idea of who they were and it made me care about Elle more, compared to Cassandra, I didn't even start liking her character, but I had a big idea to who she might become, and they could have waited.
When you click so fast that RUclips finally works and says "0 likes and 0 views"
the fact that campbell is an actual psychopath when he would’ve been such a good candidate for a redemption arc otherwise 😔
I feel like Harry’s gonna be the one with the redemption arc, especially now that he’s being so manipulated. Campbell has gone too far to have a redemption arc now.
Uh? I’m not sure you can redeem someone who threatens and tries to drown his girlfriend if she leaves the house without him
@@fart63 that’s actually exactly what i said :)
When you miss one field trip:
Does anyone else remember the episode of magic School bus where Arnold doesn't have to go on the field trip and the rest of the kids go inside his body
Holla Back lol yeah
i literally could not remember any of the main characters names the entire show
I just looked them up lol
Fun fact this show was filmed near where I live and I was an extra in it
oh nice! what episode were u in?
btw the shot at 3:05 is literally in my hometown
it was filmed in my school too!! massachusetts privilege
@@fiona-zn3ln oh cool! where r u from?
I was in the court scenes in the church, they were filmed on a set in Massachusetts
tbh i thought it was pretty bad
edit: i think the actress portraying elle was sooo good tho
IKR! Elle's character and acting was the best part for me, I was always rooting for her, but when she betrayed Allie I was like WHAT
c a l l i e Yeah, I don’t even think Allie was upset at her. Her face showed she recognized the girl was just trying to play along and survive.
i cant help but worry the ending to the show will be like that one episode of spongebob where everyone in town leaves
personally i really enjoyed the show as I was watching it. it didnt feel all that rushed to me but ig thats just cause it took me a long time to watch each episode. i did like the rush of it and it really did keep me on my toes, i probs wouldn't have finished it if it wasn't so fast. I think the shows main fault is how the ships and characters don't have enough depth (like u said) my favorite part of the show was when they did this a little with elle and helena. the viewers didn't rly know anything about helena except that she was christian and was really big on religion and believed in God and also had a quarterback boyfriend. the same thing with elle: we never rly knew anything about her except that she didn't have a lot of friends and thats why it was so easy for her to trust campbell. The part that i liked was when elle was staying with helena and she told helena the story about when she called elle a thot. I thought this was a rly cool small little detail that if the show went into more depth with (gave us actual flashbacks or just more stories like that) then all the characters would be more like highschoolers and less like adults. don't get me wrong i love a lot of the characters but most highschoolers don't talk like that even when they're put in high pressure situations. The same thing with the ships the reason i liked sam and grizz and luke and helena so much was because they didn't have to open their relationship with a makeout scene or saying they have a crush on someone. their relationships unfolded as the show went on. all of that aside tho i do think the show has a lot of potential and if done right could have a rly great second season.
The actor of Harry in the show actually came to my school for a lesson in Drama class, and Alex is extremely nice an his entire personality is very down to earth and so kind and his acting (to me) is very very good & believable.
Netflix needs to stop giving us great, ambitious shows, then cancelling them after one or two seasons.
I honestly think the reason for the rushed plot line is not because they wanted everything in by season 1. I honestly think they would've ended with the execution, however so many Netflix shows are picked up and dropped ever year that if a Netflix original is slow or boring not immediately a hit it won't get a season 2. I genuinely see the writers love for this show but I think they fell in love with so many great ideas for the show that when Netflix only granted 1 season, with a season 2 only confirmed if the show does well, that the writers wanted to include all the plots they fell in love with rather than be canceled after season 1 and have so many plots that they loved be not included. Also if they did not include everything the best plot in my opinion which is Elles (however this plot is one of the only ones to extend more than an episode or two) I think that if they did not include Elles storyline or beef up the other ones to make them more interesting ending with the time skip would've meant cancellation before a season 2 however naturally the pie wouldn't have made a satisfying ending to the show and I think the writers saw this so they drew the show out even more. I believe if this show wasn't in the fight that is Netflix's competitive originals lineup and maybe a given 2 season or even 3 from the beggining the flow would've been better. the fault is not the writers nor Netflix but rather the competitive market/bingability of shows
anyways sorry for rambling
This exactly how i felt
I came from watching jtv a fast pace telanovella to the society so i didnt realise how bad the pacing was untill after i finished the show if it had 20 episodes rather than 10 it wouldve been perfect
I finished this series yesterday and I had such a bittersweet feeling about IT , I liked the idea,not the actors and definitely NOT the characters I want them all dead and to be replaced because I like the plot
i just want to know how they got there and why they're there
Sarah Hutabarat yeah I feel like there was too much politics and not enough of the mystery, which is what I wanted more of
two words : Pied Piper
@@masha1683 if they're going for the long haul then it doesn't make sense for this group of teens to immediately have the means to get all the answers
Sarah Hutabarat personally I think they’re dead. The bus driver said “Due to a rockslide” then the buses disappeared. So I think to get back at the town they took the kids to kill them then the rock slide came out of no where and killed all the teens anyway. Just my thought.
@@OpossumOnTheMoon so they were all in the afterlife? together, living in like a midde phase??
It is literally almost the same as “Between” on Netflix but teen characters (not saying between was better Im just saying)
It has a really similar concept but I think the society did a better job with executing it. Between didn’t have the best acting and felt even less serious/believable than the society.
Between was when they turned 21 they died from a disease this guy made
This reminds me of a CBBC show, a UK show for pre to early teens I watched. It was called sparticle mystery and basically all the parents disappear one day from the entire world.This means teens struggle with being the new adults taking care of thier younger siblings and it follows a band of kids travelling to find out how to get the parents back. There's actually some really cool plots about alternate dimentions and a young girl with powers and teens disappearing when they turn 18. Decent diversity when it comes to race and disability. 8 out of 10 would recommend
I watched a few episodes but ultimately stopped because I thought the dialogue was so bad, it wrecked my enjoyment of the show. You're right, a lot of it is just things real people would never say
Yeah, I agree with what you said about ships. Teen shows nowadays really only focus on ships because they think it’s all the fans care for, which is untrue. It’s just apart of the deal. That is part of what made Teen Wolf start to suffer. It became all about the ships and what the fans wanted out those ships, and less about the story (aka Season 6B). If teen shows worried less about ships then a lot of them could be a lot better.
And also, I see you ship stydia, do you ship scira? Those two are my number one always and forever. They were done so dirty.
Ugh I’m so glad somebody else sees what I saw in the society no one is watching it!
Netflix legit has another tv show just like it called the between
I didn't like this show it could've been good but the main guy was so monotone and such a bad actor that he ruined the show for me it also got cancelled like 3 years ago I think
@@bradyarnold8450i couldn't finsh it i just wanted to say there a show with the same concept
The only difference between the two are that between is absolute garbage
i thought the title was "the society is bad, but also bad"
ally and harry >>
Grizz and Sam >>>>>>>
Ijdijsbnmls
No (imo)
@@spreadingthedrewth4643 Hallie is better
for anyone who’s curious the “coin toss play” is called rosencrantz and guildenstren are dead and it’s a screenplay that uses characters from hamlet
seeing this pop up in my notifications without knowing about the show makes this seem like a we live in a society meme
*get a load of this society*
Omg yes Julia is a Hallie shipper !
I watched Sam and Grizz's story on RUclips and decided to watch the show. I'm struggling to get through it (I've watched through episode 4). It's oddly paced and super tense and gross at times (Campbell, when Harry talks about raping and killing Cassandra, etc..), I don't like/know much about most of the characters, it's just messy. I'm gonna finish it, mostly because I agree with all of your pros list and that I wanna follow the characters that I do like, and read Grizzam fanfiction until Season 2 comes out.
I watched this whole show in one day and I still can’t discern who’s who and who they’re dating because there’s too many one dimensional characters
I watched a couple episodes but couldn’t stop shouting “Who’s paying the bills???”
Conspiracy they're in an experiment
This is just Jimmy Neutron but they don't go to space.
They hated him because he spoke the truth
What really confuses me the most is how these 'teens' almost don't have hobbies or likes. They're like the most one dimesional characters in a teen drama.
grizz is my FAVORITE character
I know this is an old video but now that The Society is done, I'm kinda glad it was a fast pace so at least there's more of the show now that it's never coming back
I have been on the last episode for about a month now. I literally have 10 minutes left of the whole series but I just like haven't watched it?? Ig idk
1800-Sip-The-Tea ooh same here like uuuugh
WATCH IT it’s so good!
Is it because it’s boring or because you don’t want it to end?
Lol update I just watched it😂😂😂
@@masha1683 irdk like I just forgot about it ig🤷🏻♀
I actually like it a lot. Like a crazy a lot. I particularly liked everything.
The characters are real.
The acting is quiet good for most of them not being “established” actors.
The relationships, when being built upon, have depth and are interesting. Elle and Cam are so intriguing to watch. Sam and Grizz are so cute. Will and Kelly are cute.
The writing is PHENOMENAL for a teen show. This isn’t a Riverdale type of show. It’s a teen show, with relatable teens and rootable teens.
I’m very excited for season two and while I agree with some points you made in the video, with a rewatch a lot of the problems kind of go away.
I agree the first episode should’ve been more of an introduction. It could’ve been a day at the school so you could see how they all interacted with each other before the trip. I guess they kind of did that with the play but they’re relationships with each other could’ve been better developed and established. Maybe then you could also see the part where Helena called Elle a thot so later it could’ve been a subtle reference to how things have changed
So sad to watch this knowing season 2 is canceled 😭
this video gave me the final push to finish the series i had stopped before the time jump lmao
ALSO the coin-toss-play is Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead by Tom Stoppard and it a really great piece of absurd theatre from the 1960s that is hilarious and makes you question your own existence!!!!!!
I can agree with you on the pacing being the big issue. With so many characters and issues to deal with, the show should've gotten more episodes. My best example why is Emily (The girl that died from the snake bite) and Luke's relationship, I'm not saying I don't like Helena and Luke together but I could see from when they were in the forest they had an intimate dynamic that should've been explored more before she died. I think it could've brought a lot more seriousness with Emily's death to their situation and driven the fear factor the teens have of running a new society. There should've been a prequel episode from, for example, a week before the trip to help people understand the environment and community of West Ham before the "Removal". Mainly so we can understand the history of people's relationships with one another, and how the "Removal" changes their relationships in a greater sense. Hopefully, they can find a way to fix the problems created in the first season storytelling-wise and create a better flow of the show. I can see it if it were paced out better it could've gotten a much hype as Stranger Things did when it first came out. Other then that, I love the show and I've also been almost combusting with my own theories about the ending.
I really like your voice during the videos! Idk why
I've been waiting for a video like this on this show for so long.
If you liked the society, Netflix is giving it a season 2, in case you wanted one. Idk when but it’s this year
My sole true problem with the show is the time jumps rapidly and everything, everything you said about the pacing is so true - I couldn't have said it better. I was constantly confused about how much time passed. I love the show, but that was so jarring to me. Ugh, so happy my feelings are being reaffirmed.
Aside from Grizz, Campbell is one of my favorite characters...even tho I hate what he's doing to Elle and expect him to die
i've never heard of this show so i assumed you made a 15 minute video about the joker meme and i have to admit that i happily clicked on it
It sucks how they always present psychopaths as evil when they arent always like that
this series isn’t very popular but verrryy similar to this show. it’s called gone it’s really good and it has really similar characters it’s about how one day all the adults 15 and up just suddenly disappear. and the kids left are...14 and under. and they discover powers and have to survive and it’s distopian and science fiction! and it’s based in the home town they grew up in
i really wish they could have opened up more about why Harry and Cassandra hated each other.
I noticed the pacing problems too... like I could skip through 10 minutes per episode and not miss any important details. These writers assume audiences want more conflicts quickly due to them "assuming" we have short attention spans. But in reality, we don't want more and more meaningless but "exciting" details. We want thought-out and fully developed ideas. A big thing we can learn from this is that if your show/story can have over 40% omitted due to it being "fluff" or having no impact on the plot development... change it and don't keep it in! lmao
the most joyful moment of my drab life is seeing that you've posted a new video
Me too I just wanted to see what it would about and stayed up all night to finish it.
im sooooo sad they cancelled it, i was looking forward to s2 so much T--T
I 100% agree with you, Cassandra’s dead must have be first season finale and they needed to expand the time between their departure to the trip and her dead, maybe in that way we could have actually watched the society working.
Didnt netflix already make a show where all the people in town over the age of like 20 die and all the kids are left to their own devices, where order is attempted to be restored, theres drama over having guns, and someone is pregnant and has a baby? It had the blonde from icarly in it as the pregnant teen
Cant we just get a remake of the gone book series it takes the adults are gone premise and then makes it insane
all i have to say is:
better then riverdale...
*very* low bar
The ending felt like you're playing a video game that you really like and you get half way and then you choose a bad option and get a non conclusive and unfinished bad ending. That's what it felt like
The reason why i don't mind the ships thing is because they are teenagers, away from their families, having the city all for themselves and they can do whatever they want so of course they'd want to hook up with as many people as possible, you know? I agree on the 'being told that they love each other' and i also agree that harry and allie are the best out of the four for that reason.
I clicked so fast thank goooooooood u uploaded ♥️♥️😩
personally I didn’t really find it rushed but I guess that’s like what you were saying with the different preferences thing, I feel like a lot of people get bored with shows that are stretched out a bit - even good ones
actually yeah I just finished the video and I do get your points about the rushing thing and the ships and character stuff - I’d still say that I liked it a lot and didn’t really consciously notice those things as a sort of criticism for the show, more just say like ‘eh I’m not that invested in that whole will/allie etc. square’ but I didn’t really think about why that was, and I also think the rest made up for things like that - really good overall
Girl same I keep trying to CONVINCE my friends to watch but no one is budging
lmao i literally watched the show bc my friends were buzzing about grizz and sam and now i love them
My only complaint - and it’s not that big of a complaint lol - is that there’s a lot of characters and it’s so hard to keep track cuz a lot of them look alike. But I love all the characters because I think if there were less characters there would be gaps in the story. Each character plays a role because it’s much more believable with more people rather than one person. Hope that made sense lol
Before episode 5 or 6 I didn't even know everyone's name
I think the thing about Elle's and Campbell's relationship imo is that like... Yes, Campbell was a literal psycho and all but... I feel like it gets even better when at times, Elle/the person that plays Elle is so convincing that you just can't really tell what she's thinking or like who's side she's on. Like it's obvious that she wants to kill Campbell or get rid of him somehow but like... The scene where Elle spits in Allie's face and walks away, it really makes you wonder who's side she's actually on because she makes it so convincing. Becca, in the beginning, is like a cool person. I mean, I started to like her but then she becomes this really moody and annoying person. I mean I don't hate her but the fact that she gets mad at Sam for trying to help is so rude and annoying. I get that she should be like that because like... she's pregnant and all but I mean... I feel like she should've had more time to be... not pregnant. Going with the fact that everything is rushed, I feel like I would like Becca more if I really got to know her before she got pregnant so that she could be more likable. And like... Is it just me or like... does nobody know how people forced Lexie out of her house? I can't remember a scene where they force Lexie out.
14:58 Exactly...as a show you have to actually SHOW us...not just always TELL us.
A con of the show for me was that it didn’t go into the mystery of it all enough. Like in the beginning it was more creepy and stuff and then the rest was just like politics and other stuff. I wanted them to learn more about where they are and how they got there. But the mystery aspect of the show was mainly shown in the beginning and the end
I wish that live in you shadow scene was written has Allie saying that instead of her disappearing thing, that she just kept saying things about how everyone needs her and that she can't just check out. Then continue later on to show it instead of telling. That's what I agree with the most. I think it was a great show, love Sam and Grizz as individuals before they became a couple which was cute, but I do also think there were some things that weren't that good, one that you didn't mention was the power problem, they talked about it like any moment they might lose power, and they did, but only once and it was never an issue again. I get that they moved houses to save power, but it would still be an issue.
Hey wait, there’s another comparison you left out. Animal farm.
eh more lord of the flies bc it's about young boys being deserted on an island and trying to establish a society so everything goes smoothly and things don't go awry and nobody has too much power but then it does. animal farm is about overthrowing the person in power and then trying to better the system but eventually doing the same things the previous ruler did.
@@shannonranalli8688 I guess I should read more books more. Or hear them on audio books that most you tubers advertise.
@@alejandracervantes7837 same here haha. i only know lord of the flies from my middle school days and i read animal farm in my sophomore year. similar themes of power and control over a group. animal farm was wack tho cuz it was just funny to visualize animals talking dictating other animals
@@shannonranalli8688 well there was a cartoon movie of it and it was messed up. Thought the adaptation of Lord of the flies .... idk the Simpsons did a episode of kids and their classmates stranded in a island
@@shannonranalli8688 you should reread lord of the flies. It's actually my favorite book because of the symbolism. The fire and the pig head mean stuff and it really makes sense when you figure it out.
FINALLY a new video of yours showed up in my feed! 😆👏🏻🤸🏻♂️
to me it was weird how harry just falls into a depression. i don’t remember it well but it seems like it just happened. i completely agree with how rushed it was. like one minute he was with kelly, they break up. then in another (i think maybe even in the same episode) hes hooking up with allie, the play this game and they form a bond. 6 months later he’s in this depression and him and allie don’t even show any interaction besides when she was forced to.
I don’t think I can really relate to too many subplot things bc I really payed attention and rewatched it six times I just really fucking love this show sk
I COMPLETELY AGREE with so many of the points you raised. While I was watching the show and reflecting on it after I thought there was so much unlocked potential and it was so rushed through. It is entertaining and many viewers have enjoyed the series, however, there so many characters and undeveloped subplots that never reached any conclusion. I mean, I only knew who Lexi was because I recognised her from The Heathers but it would be so easy to remember who she even was. I really hope they renew the second season and it’s even better.
Whoops, *forget who Lexi was
THAT'S WHAT SHE'S FROM. I couldn't tell because she was blonde in that
no one asks for your videos julia....
but we sure as hell do enjoy them
i think most of the problems about the society is just that a lot was rushed. i think the creators wanted to cram in as much entertainment as they could because they didn't know if they'd get a second season. the more plots and characters, the more you give the audience to think about, so they'll want another season. now that everyone's hooked and there is going to be season 2, i think the plots will develop better and they'll slow everything down.
Clicking on this not knowing that 'The Society' is a tv show gave me completely different expectations about what this video was going to be about
I think the society is paced well, alhought I do wish there was more episodes
the fast paced nature in my pov realistically portrayays for teenagers would act if everyone they knew and loved was gone making fast and irrational decisions is something that would happen naturally
It's interesting that everyone seems to hate the characters when in fact this is the first time in a show that I've liked more than one character (even if I hate Will and what's here name Cassandra's sister? Idk lmao)