SPOILERS FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T FINISHED FONTAINE STORY YET: *sigh* Yes, I'm well aware Furina isn't a "real" archon, as told by the story. When she was released in the game though, she was still assumed to be (not just by the community, but by the game itself). Chapter V was released alongside her, canonically confirming she's not the real Archon, but still chooses to hold the title, and I'll respect that. Source from wiki: "After some time passed, Furina abdicated from her role as Hydro Archon and left the related affairs (though not the title) to Neuvillette before leaving the Opera." Neuvillette is considered to be the real archon of Fontain, but I don't think that's necessarily accurate either. He's some kind of dragon bro (one of the Seven Sovereigns). The source of the Archon's power. So, I'd consider Neuvillette as something higher than Archons, and Furina the closest thing we have to THE Archon of Fontaine (kinda like if you were raised by your step-dad, he's still your real dad even though you're not blood related lol). Also, yeah. I'm not a lore master. There are things I could be misinterpreting or misremembering, but I think it's OK to consider her an Archon for banner reasons alone, as that's how she was "marketed" before her release, much like Mavuika.
People who pull for him WILL use him because of how much they depended on him, remember the % used in abyss is based off of how many ppl have him and how many are using him.
yeah and he is mostly used as a cope option cuz people already got baited pulling him in the past for c0 Neuv teams, like if you are meta player and wants to improve Neuv teams, I would never even consider zhongli and instead go with c1 Neuv that way, you can use him with xilonen without issues and deal way way more damage. Also most used does not equal to how strong a unit is. Keep in mind Mualani is one of the best dps and yet her usage is much lower compared to someone like alhaithm for example. And even in c0 neuv teams, citlali is gonna be way better than zhongli just because of the fact she can use scroll and shreds the same amount. Dont give some cope like using petra on zhongli thats like 50% uptime and zhongli needs to get the shard on top.
incredibly good is a big word It's just that between pamber and tome of the eternal flow almost every weapon perform similarly His sig is still way better pamber is just one of the best if you don't have it
Honestly, I got cursed at and a witch-hunted the last time I mentioned it, but both on paper and in practice, there are a decent amount of teams where I'd drop 4-8% to buff an off-field with TTDS. Ambers energy can be useful, if you have no other extra energy sources, but most people can't be optimised enough to stand on the bleeding edge where it's necessary.
no its not is just a cope option that f2p's have. keep in mind his sig is around 34-37% increase in damage just from amber going to his sig, its a night and day difference lmao like going from raiden c0 to raiden c2. So yeah amber is bad, its just f2p's have no choice since its the best they got, and only sac jade is comparable to his sig.
@schehreh Uhhh Hu Tao is still one of the highest DPS characters in the game and the National team can still 36 star abyss Newer characters are much easier to make strong, old characters need more work but can be just as powerful. Genshin is unique in this way
@@PlatAPotato i have both hu tao and childe and i love them but look how hoyo is making natlan characters to complete each other through that nightsoul burst mechanic and pyro archon's fighting spirit mechanic. And i'm not even talking about how natlan units bring comfort for exploration and traversing and these are the facts that can't be ignored. That's hoyo's policy to make more money. But at the end, everone should pull for whoever they like :)
@schehreh Yes Natlan characters compliment each other but Hu Tao with decent supports doesn't need to compliment other characters. The Natlan characters are much easier to make stronger because of the interactions and their ceilings of power may be a bit higher but even 1.x 5 stars are capable of clearing the highest level content
For real. I was honestly surprised. Like ok, yes based on team structure you need more supports than dps, but you still need a dps, and Neuvi is _THE_ dps. If you don't have him, you should definitely get him.
I recommend pulling for neuvi cuz he’s probably not gonna get a rerun until the next region while mauvika is guaranteed to get a rerun around 5.6/5.7. Also from leaks, mauvika is said to be a dps
Idk why is everyone mad lol he literally says wait for official info to see what the upcoming units do and see if you like them and if you dont pull for nuev/zhongli, yk wait for the livestream and if you dont like what you see you will still have time to pull
THISS, its funny when they said, "i love your content moga, but you r wrong, based on leak bla bla bla" bro u got your source from leak and bashing people that purposely avoid leaks??
@@hanifkhairy3682 i dont think they are trying to "bash" anyone, but since we already know they are just giving the correct information, its not the time of speculation anymore, we know Mavuika is a DPS, if someone is unsure of pulling on this banner because of the possibility that Mavuika might be a support, i feel like this is information that they might want to know
because he’s making the best dps in the game and one of the best support in the game look mid atm where as if you don’t have them it’ll always be an upgrade, even neuvi’s early cons and weapon are really good upgrades.. and whats the point of doing a whole video to say « wait until the livestream » when we already have the leaks? if u don’t wanna consider them then what is the genuine use of this video lol
been seeing sm switch ups w hoyo creators on mavuika and about skipping the banners etc lmao 😭 hoyo is so desperate about the upcoming banners, this is def NOT a coincidence
I saw tgs being not that fond of mavuika on twitter and now he is like "guys, mavuika is great, her stupid restrictions aren't a problem so pull for her☺️"
@@lupi3606 he never said that lol if you're talking about the xianling vs mavuika video that's because people thought mavuika's dps off field is weaker than xianlings that's not him saying mavuika is great or anything
@@Wrath0well kinda, but i'm talking about his post after he read the comments not the video, he said that Natlan units and specifically xilonen are meta so it's not a problem that mavuika relies on them that much. And he said that because it's not a problem mavuika is a great sub dps that is much better than xiangling
@@lupi3606 yeah you're right actually i kinda felt some love from him towards mavuika especially since he defended her so much but i guess he never said that mavuika is bad in his initial impression iirc
Too late, already got C1R1 Neuvillette, granted was insanely lucky and only spent about 120 pulls, so still have 400+ pulls saved up for Mavuika etc. Having only pulled for Furina, Clorinde and Xilonen since 4.0 (and now Neuvillette) have gathered quite the stockpile.
skipping mavuika. waiting for wriothesley. I skipped all natlan units and im generally less attached to natlan as far as a narrative goes. unless of course they make capitano playable. if mavuika holds up to be super great for Non-natlan characters, i might pick her up in her rerun.
0:34 "She's going to be a game breaking support" So nobody told Moga eh? 0:45 "Zhongli isn't used as much anymore" Uhh.... have you been following the data lately? His usage dipped throughout Sumeru during the hyperbloom meta, but has gone way up in Abyss since Fontaine and held steady as among the top 5 to 10 most used characters.
Nuevelette is far from worth it unless you whale for all the needed constellations, weapons, and supports which is incredibly expensive. Not to mention his playstyle is terrible
Please don't listen to moga. Firstly mavuika will rerun much faster than Neuvillette so you might pull for him now because god knows how long it will take for him to rerun again. And secondly when he said dps characters aren't as valuable as supports i just bursted out laughing and the only thing that came to mind was just that meme "does he know?" Lets just say you should wait untill the official info about mavuika comes out and not make assumptions based on previous regions
@@beachbaal9060bruh she only does the dps part very good, her support capabilities are just a both bennet and xiangling downgrade respectively not to mention she’s glued to other natlan characters if you want to get the most of her kit and oh you just wanted a good off field pyro? good luck getting her c1 so you can have up to 80% up time on it
@@UnazoSama her support is way better than Xiangling. Like xiangling is only better in raiden national, raiden OL, International all of which are outdated teams. Other teams like Mualani team, kinich team, chlorinde OL, Navia team, wrio melt, etc. Mavuika is always better than xiangling in those teams, its already been calced on top of having the highest dps ceiling.
Mavuika's looking to be the firefly of Genshin, requiring Nightsoul specific characters that aren't main dps. Don't even think of getting her if you plan to use her without any nightsoul characters in the team. Very limited teambuilds with her. She's strong ofc, but y'know Arlecchino's easier to build, doesn't need ER like Mavuika, isn't limited in team building and she unlike Hutao has a permanent pyro infusion. She's a very flexible main dps that does big NA damage. Don't get Mavuika if you don't have or plan to get and use Xilonen or Citlali with her.
@nikothesealfan12 I meant it like that. Like mavuika, arlecchino too doesn't need ER. For mavuika ER is useless sincr she relies on nightsoul - and for arlecchino she doesn't need ER since her damage comes from her NAs.
For newer players, please pull for Neuvi and Zhongli, theyre a great help to your account ( checkout their kits and playstyle though and see if its to your liking ) BUT im sure they arent a waste of primos. Mavuika will rerun after a couple of patches, and youll have to wait for the dragons to rerun prolly a year or less.
Ppl who want citlali >>>>>>>>> Like I care about her more than the pyro archon why you might ask? First she is so cool,grandma, and she is Cryo sooooo gurl isn't coming back until danslif's banner
Don't listen to some doomposters here. As stated, you'll have plenty of time before the banner ends to know more about mavuika, and if you really like the character and the value she brings, then pull for her.
@@agentorder4604 that's basically what he said, mostly to people who's not sure about pulling or skipping these banners. I don't know why people are hating
Guys pls don't listen to him i love you moga but you can't make assumptions on mavuika's kit and advise people to skip the best character in the game for speculations I won't leak anything but let's just say neuvillete is better than mavuika
Current theory crafting Calcs post V3 update say she has the current highest dps team in the game as a dps, and is comparable or better than Xiangling as a offield dps support
@@KgaogeloNdhlovu Yes she's good but only better by around 10% than arlecchino and since she's a dps she'll get powercrept sooner than you think and finally she still gets out dpsed by neuvillete in aoe
@@Starrofheart in single target scenarios only and with a restricted team to another character running alongside her "citlali" so a high cost little improvements character
I was pulling for Heizou at 30 pity and 50/50. I got C1 Neuvillette instead and still no Heizou. Yeah, he's the only 4-star I don't have. Looks like it's going to remain that way.
"Archons are flexible." Yes, true, and that's exactly why the Pyro Archon will be a skip because she is the only one who won't be. Not only is she an onfielder and has much worse off field presence than any previous Archon but also requires Natlan units on the team to not underperform massively in the on field role.
While I do agree, there should definitely be an asterisk to this. He mentioned it but it got a little buried: just wait until there is official information on Mavuika released. We will know her official kit before the banners for 5.2 end. And who you pull on really comes down to who you personally like and what other characters you have built. If you have every character in the game, and many of them well built, Zhongli isn't the best option for most teams. And also, if you have many on-field DPS characters built pulling another on-Field DPS character often has lower account value than a new off-field DPS or support character, and though Neuvi is the best DPS in the game he can only function as an on-field character. For example, on my alt account that has Furina, Xilonen, and Kazuha all built with Ayato, Ayaka, and Chlorinde being the only decent on-field DPS character it has, I went for C1 Neuvi since I don't have a very solid 2nd side team and I already have his most meta team already built, and I also have an r5 sac jade on that account. Great pull for that account. However, on my main, I have Hu Tao, Chasca, Arlecchino, Raiden, Keqing, Mualani, Navia, and Ayaka with most of them well built. I also have supports for them all built, with most of the 4* supports being c6. Neuvi on that account isn't needed at all. I also have 5 characters built for shields and a c0r1 Xilonen, making Zhongli not really worth it either. But if Mavuika is an off-field pyro DPS, that is also from Natlan, then that is a great pull for my account since I'll have a character that can hold cinder city in my overload teams and many others that can make use of off-field pyro. It really comes down to personal preference and how your account is built. For Moga's account, these characters aren't worth it. However for an account that has no good on-field DPS carry or one that doesn't have Xilonen or any decent 4* shield character, then Neuvi and Zhongli will go up in account value.
Neuvillette slander is crazy🤣🤣. He is the most broken hydro DPS in the whole game. He might have a simpler playstyle than most of the other DPS in the game but he is so strong. I kid you not I use him in every spiral abyss run. If you're looking for a strong DPS that can bring you through the hardest content in the game get neuvillette and if you want to make him even stronger get furina on her next rerun but he's still really good even without her
@@joshuaw.7882 yeah people should just get over it when hoyo finally had the chance to give us a better xiangling+bennet replacement after literally 4 years with mavuika but no they said we just need another pyro dps that maybe support the team if you give her the specific artifact set
@@UnazoSama you can make her a pyro applicator with her skill, and her burst also gives damage bonus, y’all just continue to overlook that and focus only on her being a dps, I feel like she could be both, just depends on how you want to build her.
@@UnazoSamaShe is literally better than Xiangling. Y’all just live in the past and can’t seem to accept it for some reason. Every reputable TC is saying she’s better than Xiangling. Bruh, y’all are like those people that said Nahida and Furina are trash before their release, yet look where we are now. I’m calling it right now, Mavuika is gonna have high usage rates and steady meta presence both as an on-fielder and off-fielder.
Let's not forget she also need another natlan character if you want to utilise her kit comfortably. Meanwhile, Neuvillette is a proved and tested meta character. Also, she's just another pyro dps that will also most likely get powercrept in the future, that's just how gacha works
Agreed and disagreed, you do need a natlan character but not as much as you think to be exact but, yes she will lose out on a decent amount of DPS damage after the first burst and I do agree with the point that her f2p weapon is not better than that of Neuv's ones, (My guy is really flexible.) She does have those restrictions but in return, you get her supporting capabilities (for off-field support, I believe you might have already seen the TGS video but if you haven't I recommend you see the TGS video after this, the vid is flawed but it does its thing). If you have Xilonen then you are good to go, and hey Xilo is a meta character who doesn't love her or even Citlali is enough (not as much as xilo but) to do some serious damage but a less on field time for Mavuika. For a player like me who doesn't have well built pyro DPS, I'm decently happy about her kit but her motorcycle animations are a bit goofy but still, DEVIL MAY CRY MOTORCYCLE AND DOOM CRUCIBLE SWORD REFERENCE!!!
They should add an artifact set effect that has an all elemental res shred when applying shield to you or the party. Zhongli would sky rocket with that set, to balance it, you can only take it into effect for one character wielding the set. And the effect can persist even when the wielder of this set is not on the field. And the 2pc gives 25%hp. Cool idea tbh
yall DONT pull for constellations, mavuika is gonna be an on field/sub dps rather than a support (afawk), dont pull for constellations on them but if u dont have neuvillette he is a must pull (zhongli less so bcuz citlali is coming soon and bcuz hes not useful against rifthounds or with characters like furina) but constellations dont do too much in terms of boosting your progression/account/abyss capabilities
pulling for neuvillette because 1. i like his playstyle 2. he’s pretty 3. i want him in a team with furina 4. don’t need or want zhongli 5. don’t care about upcoming characters rn the only time i really saved for a character was for kinich because pretty and cannon
I like your content Moga but this is the kind of video you shouldn't make. 1) Yaoyao is pretty good at C0. Her constellations don't do much for her. 2) F2P weapon for Neuvillette isn't that good for him? Brother, Prototype Amber is one of his best weapon and synergizes with a Furina team. Saying Ash-Graven is better is wild. These 2 banners are the example of best shield and best DPS (imo). They will vastly improve any account without them, evidently by their usage rate (yes, Zhongli has always been top 1 or 2 tier in abyss).
I hate all those meta heads in the comment section. Genshin is a game, for God's sake-pull for who you want! Though, keep in mind, Mauvica is reliant on Xilonen and Citlali.
I mean, while I'm skipping these banners for already having both of them, the thing about the pyro archon doesn't excite me, meaning I'll lean towards Citlali on 5.3
zhongli is God for me who just started on 5.0 and rushed to world level 8 without even my characters properly built, and I honestly don't care about speedrunning or even high damage competition or even the abyss, unlike other players I can live without doing them
I don't care. I got my c1 and I will keep pulling since I like the 4 stars. If I get another neuvi then great. If I don't get another, also fine. I will build pity. (Up till now I had c2 Fischl. And that's counting the ones I got for free for events. I have been here since Childe's first banner. I just necer get fischls. But at least I got her c3 now).
Zhongli's usage has seen some rises since the release of chiori. Not every chiori havers has her c1, meaning at most of the time beside itto team comps, chiori is run with zhongli. Apart from giving a strong shield, he gives geo construct to maximize chiori's passive.
I pulled for nuvi cuz I know mavuika will have a rerun eventually and want to wait and see if she is worth it while everything settles down, while I don't know when he will have a rerun.
Ight I was a day one player havent played since the shougun came out is it possible to still get good even though i probably missed years of stuff that’ll never come back
I would say to pull on these banners if you want the characters cuz mavuika will have a rerun soon after her release just like other archons' first banners and these characters may not have a rerun (especially neuvillette) till version 6.x so its gonna be a lot longer than mavuika's rerun.
PSA: info from videos like these must be taken with a grain of salt. After all, it's just the CC's opinion. And everyone has their own preferences, needs, and priorities… I suggest actually playing and replaying the Trial to see if you really want to play that Character for months, years on end. For me though, I'm skipping. I'm still not done with Mualani and Tartar Sauce, both Hydro on-fielders, and I already have Zhongli, C6 Fischl, and C6 Heizou. I also have Fontaine at 100% already, so Neuvillette's underwater stamina saver isn't gonna help me much anymore. I also have a lot of other DPS built already, so another isn't really gonna help me, and with Kazuha and Xilonen on my roster, I'm set for life. And finally, there's the budget issue… I'm saving as much as I can for Mavuika, and I can't afford any more impulse rolling, not with all the pulling I did in 5.0 and 5.1…
so tl;dr for anyone who isn't at the top 0,1%: yes it's incredibly worth pulling. the sheer amount of characters we have so far opens up enough options for anyone at any level to build incredibly strong teams. Most characters you get early and often are extremely good supports/off dps (fischl, xiangling, xingqiu, bennett, dendro mc,etc.) to the point it is kind of difficult to really get good main dps at the very beginning unless one is lucky with their pulls. this is why i can justify getting neuvilette. and zhong li is still incredibly strong and a staple in many team comps and the minimizing language used in the video really undersells him. also regarding the char being potentially incredibly strong: the same could be said, like you said, for all the other archons and many other characters. as far as i know the games difficulty hasn't increased a ton over the years yet most characters have gotten much stronger (whether through stuff like new characters being added that help them shine more or new artifacts, weapons, etc.). The game is powercrept. i think it's good to remind oneself that this isn't 1.0 anymore where there were not a lot of characters yet.
Ngl im hating these region exclusive characters. Navia was fantastic in Fontaine. Bring her to Natlan and it feels like I went from a nuke warhead to a BB Gun. I now have a half as built Chases with her weapon and I’m nuking again. These characters are only good for whatever path we’re on now :/
Well ama be honest yall. Shes ass as a support even with the natlan set. Shes worst than xianglung as a sup dps. And as a dps shes around 20 to 15% better than arlecchino. Honestly just save if you have arlecchino and we are absolutely getting furina in 5.4. And if anything mavuika will rerun again around 5.6 5.7
Thank you, someone with a brain. Citlali worths it more atp cus theres not much of cryo supports like her in the game but then again shneznaya is coming so idk but i'm once again more hyped about the new 4 star more than anything.
You're telling people not to pull the best on field dps in the game because her bonus role is "only" a sidegrade to fucking XL.. the character so strong that the xl copypasta exists?? wtf else do you want in Mavuika's kit before you admit she's insanely good? Do you need her to fly further than Chasca and have 100% IR and fuck it might as well add in Bennett buff too?? Or would you still be doomposting even with all that lmao
@@dalzmc but that's not what he said. She's not a good support and that's a fact she was meant as a dps. Her sub dps is worse than xiangling that's also a fact bc for hydros to shine they need a ton of off field application which mavuika doesn't provide and dmg wise it's basically the same. Her dps is great but we have soooo many pyro dpss atp and she's not even that better than arlecchino yeah a bit more like 10%/20% more dmg but she's also quite clunky so if you have arlecchino she does not worth it and it's better to have a neuvi and arlecchino (2 different element dps) than to have two pyro dps. Also she will return sooner or later bc she's an archon. Not like citlali will. And she really wants xilonen while, it's like the xiao xianyun or wanderer and C6 faruzan and neuvi and furina situtation again, bc yeah they are good but theres always that one support who is always like a need to them (C6 mika for eula, shenhe for ayaka etc theres soooo many)
Zhongli's shield is twice as good as Citali's, or three times under more optimal circumstances. So the one to be skipped there is unfortunately Citali. (She was the unit I was most looking forward to but it can't be helped, weak shield and EM on Cryo units is just garbage) The archon is not an off field unit and is a cope for that role, and I don't need an onfielder. The 4 star will be free in Lantern Rite. No, the new units provide zero reason to save this time, unfortunately. And we've already seen the last beta update to those units. They'd need to do a last second complete overhaul on the release to change that for me.
Pull both and never have to pull again! They both require minimal investment to be insanely impactful. Archons are usually just dmg buffers all archons can be skipped if your carry is as good as neuvilette.
@@cancer5950 but if she spplies to much pyro, she going to ruin team comp rotation. A whole lot of characters can not keep up that and pyro is very reactive element. Once a target is hit with pyro it creates a reaction and instantly removes the other element involved. That is the whole purpose of making it 2 secs not instant.
@thatguy2nice so does XL ruin team comps? No. People want an XL powercreep because of her limited range and huge energy requirements. Other than that,XL is perfect. We don't want another on field frontloaded Pyro dps.
Agreed that supports are more valuable than dps characters but Mavuika isn't gonna be an excellent support like Nahida or Furina She'll be a dps and TCs are saying she's still stronger than Arlecchino even after the v2 nerfs. Also, she has off-field pyro application and doesn't have an insane ER requirements like Xiangling Overall, Mavuika is worth skipping Neuvillette IMO. Same case for Zhongli since 2 new shielders are coming the next patch.
Why is there so much negativity in the comments, isn't is obvious the archon is the most anticipated character in the game every region ? He's just recommending to think a little before pulling. In a month either my comment will age poorly or half of these people in the comments will be crying to get mavuika.
the only reason neuvillete is good enough, is because we don't have much alternative hydro unit, like we only have three of 4* hydro, and hydro reaction are one of the most flexible reaction and is disgusting how much hoyo gate keeping the element
I think you should be fine if you summon... I mean you won't be missing out that much 😭 You can get Zhongli instead of weaker zhongli with off field application and Nuevillette instead of restricted Nuevillette with kinda ok off field application
Why dont you people just wait to the end of the patch... mavuika kit and numbers would be rreleased and then you could comfortably decide who you want or whos more valuable
@@Moontonboss oh I didn’t get vortex vanquisher. I’m too f2p to afford the weapon banner, I ain’t risking primos on that. But nobody’s happy to get the most useless 5 star sig weapon in the game😅😅
"I personally wouldn't summon for him", and here me who did main him till loke AR45, that too totally new as when i came to genshin he dropped too i.e. 2.8. Ppl forget he is ANEMO DPS.
I’m just happy to be a Neuvilette main from the get go😊😊😊. Got him on release then got teammates like Furina and Baizhu on reruns (already have Kazuha since 2.8), then got his C1 on rerun as well. Now I’m getting his signature to truly complete everything.
From i started genshin back when it first launched i made up my mind i would pull for characters that i like. So mainly waifus. The two male characters i use as the exception are bennet and cyno. Meta dont matter and abilities dont matter. If i like the characters, their designs and they are fun to play then they get pulled for
SPOILERS FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T FINISHED FONTAINE STORY YET:
*sigh* Yes, I'm well aware Furina isn't a "real" archon, as told by the story. When she was released in the game though, she was still assumed to be (not just by the community, but by the game itself).
Chapter V was released alongside her, canonically confirming she's not the real Archon, but still chooses to hold the title, and I'll respect that.
Source from wiki: "After some time passed, Furina abdicated from her role as Hydro Archon and left the related affairs (though not the title) to Neuvillette before leaving the Opera."
Neuvillette is considered to be the real archon of Fontain, but I don't think that's necessarily accurate either. He's some kind of dragon bro (one of the Seven Sovereigns). The source of the Archon's power.
So, I'd consider Neuvillette as something higher than Archons, and Furina the closest thing we have to THE Archon of Fontaine (kinda like if you were raised by your step-dad, he's still your real dad even though you're not blood related lol).
Also, yeah. I'm not a lore master. There are things I could be misinterpreting or misremembering, but I think it's OK to consider her an Archon for banner reasons alone, as that's how she was "marketed" before her release, much like Mavuika.
‘Zhongli isn’t used as much’ and he’s still in the top 5 of most used units 😭
Thats mostly for nuev teams, he means in most teams of never characters a need for a shielder isnt there
he said as much ANYMORE meaning he isn't where he once was in the meta. Doesn't mean he isn't used, use the context of the full sentence
People who pull for him WILL use him because of how much they depended on him, remember the % used in abyss is based off of how many ppl have him and how many are using him.
yeah and he is mostly used as a cope option cuz people already got baited pulling him in the past for c0 Neuv teams, like if you are meta player and wants to improve Neuv teams, I would never even consider zhongli and instead go with c1 Neuv that way, you can use him with xilonen without issues and deal way way more damage. Also most used does not equal to how strong a unit is. Keep in mind Mualani is one of the best dps and yet her usage is much lower compared to someone like alhaithm for example.
And even in c0 neuv teams, citlali is gonna be way better than zhongli just because of the fact she can use scroll and shreds the same amount. Dont give some cope like using petra on zhongli thats like 50% uptime and zhongli needs to get the shard on top.
@@beachbaal9060 There's no reasonable interpretation of his words that could make that leap of assumption. You're being an apologist here.
3:42 Prototype Amber is incredibly good on Neuvillette. You don't need to build any energy recharge with it at r5, and HP is really valuable on him.
I don’t even have it at r5. I’ve got like zero energy recharge and he still gets his burst back, I just make sure every other character has er
incredibly good is a big word
It's just that between pamber and tome of the eternal flow almost every weapon perform similarly
His sig is still way better
pamber is just one of the best if you don't have it
Honestly, I got cursed at and a witch-hunted the last time I mentioned it, but both on paper and in practice, there are a decent amount of teams where I'd drop 4-8% to buff an off-field with TTDS.
Ambers energy can be useful, if you have no other extra energy sources, but most people can't be optimised enough to stand on the bleeding edge where it's necessary.
@@Hlebuw3k lemme guess, u dont have his sig weapon
no its not is just a cope option that f2p's have. keep in mind his sig is around 34-37% increase in damage just from amber going to his sig, its a night and day difference lmao like going from raiden c0 to raiden c2. So yeah amber is bad, its just f2p's have no choice since its the best they got, and only sac jade is comparable to his sig.
RULE #1: PULL FOR WHOEVER MAKES YOU HAPPY THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS
...And if you want to be happy you HAVE TO pull for newer characters. That's just the way gatcha games work.
@schehreh Uhhh Hu Tao is still one of the highest DPS characters in the game and the National team can still 36 star abyss
Newer characters are much easier to make strong, old characters need more work but can be just as powerful.
Genshin is unique in this way
@@PlatAPotato i have both hu tao and childe and i love them but look how hoyo is making natlan characters to complete each other through that nightsoul burst mechanic and pyro archon's fighting spirit mechanic. And i'm not even talking about how natlan units bring comfort for exploration and traversing and these are the facts that can't be ignored. That's hoyo's policy to make more money. But at the end, everone should pull for whoever they like :)
@schehreh Yes Natlan characters compliment each other but Hu Tao with decent supports doesn't need to compliment other characters.
The Natlan characters are much easier to make stronger because of the interactions and their ceilings of power may be a bit higher but even 1.x 5 stars are capable of clearing the highest level content
@@schehrehI still can comfortably 36 abyss with melt ganyu and hu tao double hydro
The Neuvillette downplay is crazy. He is by far the best dps in the game even with craftable weapons his damage is insane.
For real. I was honestly surprised. Like ok, yes based on team structure you need more supports than dps, but you still need a dps, and Neuvi is _THE_ dps. If you don't have him, you should definitely get him.
Mauvika is going to be comparable and Mulani is also close. Mauvika also has the added benefit of being able to somewhat support.
@@D4C_267 he is far from the best dps in the game tf
@@Moontonboss that's absolutely cap. Nuevelette is straight ass
@@Cr1msonval3 He is and only mavuika is giving him a run for his money. Don’t have time for arlecchino and mualani copers lol
I recommend pulling for neuvi cuz he’s probably not gonna get a rerun until the next region while mauvika is guaranteed to get a rerun around 5.6/5.7. Also from leaks, mauvika is said to be a dps
Idk why is everyone mad lol he literally says wait for official info to see what the upcoming units do and see if you like them and if you dont pull for nuev/zhongli, yk wait for the livestream and if you dont like what you see you will still have time to pull
THISS, its funny when they said, "i love your content moga, but you r wrong, based on leak bla bla bla" bro u got your source from leak and bashing people that purposely avoid leaks??
@@hanifkhairy3682Avoiding character kit leak is dumb. Genshin cc are obligated to avoid it, we aren't
@@hanifkhairy3682 i dont think they are trying to "bash" anyone, but since we already know they are just giving the correct information, its not the time of speculation anymore, we know Mavuika is a DPS, if someone is unsure of pulling on this banner because of the possibility that Mavuika might be a support, i feel like this is information that they might want to know
because he’s making the best dps in the game and one of the best support in the game look mid atm where as if you don’t have them it’ll always be an upgrade, even neuvi’s early cons and weapon are really good upgrades.. and whats the point of doing a whole video to say « wait until the livestream » when we already have the leaks? if u don’t wanna consider them then what is the genuine use of this video lol
been seeing sm switch ups w hoyo creators on mavuika and about skipping the banners etc lmao 😭 hoyo is so desperate about the upcoming banners, this is def NOT a coincidence
I saw tgs being not that fond of mavuika on twitter and now he is like "guys, mavuika is great, her stupid restrictions aren't a problem so pull for her☺️"
@@lupi3606 he never said that lol if you're talking about the xianling vs mavuika video that's because people thought mavuika's dps off field is weaker than xianlings that's not him saying mavuika is great or anything
@@Wrath0well kinda, but i'm talking about his post after he read the comments not the video, he said that Natlan units and specifically xilonen are meta so it's not a problem that mavuika relies on them that much. And he said that because it's not a problem mavuika is a great sub dps that is much better than xiangling
@@lupi3606 yeah you're right actually i kinda felt some love from him towards mavuika especially since he defended her so much but i guess he never said that mavuika is bad in his initial impression iirc
Genshin fans dont act delusional challange failed
Too late, already got C1R1 Neuvillette, granted was insanely lucky and only spent about 120 pulls, so still have 400+ pulls saved up for Mavuika etc.
Having only pulled for Furina, Clorinde and Xilonen since 4.0 (and now Neuvillette) have gathered quite the stockpile.
He's making suggestions. You can choose what you want. Get it together "community"
skipping mavuika. waiting for wriothesley. I skipped all natlan units and im generally less attached to natlan as far as a narrative goes. unless of course they make capitano playable. if mavuika holds up to be super great for Non-natlan characters, i might pick her up in her rerun.
0:34 "She's going to be a game breaking support"
So nobody told Moga eh?
0:45 "Zhongli isn't used as much anymore"
Uhh.... have you been following the data lately? His usage dipped throughout Sumeru during the hyperbloom meta, but has gone way up in Abyss since Fontaine and held steady as among the top 5 to 10 most used characters.
I'm sorry Moga but you really didn't cook with this one
Moga fell off
0:31 oh no he doesn't know, guys if you already have arlecchino and don't have neuvilette get him now
Nuevelette is far from worth it unless you whale for all the needed constellations, weapons, and supports which is incredibly expensive. Not to mention his playstyle is terrible
@@Cr1msonval3 i got him and he is fun asf
@Trickdulasince1999yeah. you just got him 😂😂 wait a week
@@BestKazuhaFani use him for over a year and i think he is fun
@@lupi3606 totally fine opinion. it’s just a lot of people dislike his play style.
Please don't listen to moga. Firstly mavuika will rerun much faster than Neuvillette so you might pull for him now because god knows how long it will take for him to rerun again. And secondly when he said dps characters aren't as valuable as supports i just bursted out laughing and the only thing that came to mind was just that meme "does he know?" Lets just say you should wait untill the official info about mavuika comes out and not make assumptions based on previous regions
Shes a top tier dps, support and a really good sub dps so he wont be wrong she does all of it really good
@@beachbaal9060bruh she only does the dps part very good, her support capabilities are just a both bennet and xiangling downgrade respectively not to mention she’s glued to other natlan characters if you want to get the most of her kit and oh you just wanted a good off field pyro? good luck getting her c1 so you can have up to 80% up time on it
@@UnazoSamaexaclty,, which is why i lost interest
@@UnazoSama her support is way better than Xiangling. Like xiangling is only better in raiden national, raiden OL, International all of which are outdated teams. Other teams like Mualani team, kinich team, chlorinde OL, Navia team, wrio melt, etc. Mavuika is always better than xiangling in those teams, its already been calced on top of having the highest dps ceiling.
that zhongli to 5 star wish transition was SMOOTH
What time
@@McWriotheslay like 7-8 seconds in
Mavuika's looking to be the firefly of Genshin, requiring Nightsoul specific characters that aren't main dps. Don't even think of getting her if you plan to use her without any nightsoul characters in the team. Very limited teambuilds with her. She's strong ofc, but y'know Arlecchino's easier to build, doesn't need ER like Mavuika, isn't limited in team building and she unlike Hutao has a permanent pyro infusion. She's a very flexible main dps that does big NA damage.
Don't get Mavuika if you don't have or plan to get and use Xilonen or Citlali with her.
but mav doesn’t need ER, it’s literally a dead stat on her?
@nikothesealfan12 I meant it like that. Like mavuika, arlecchino too doesn't need ER. For mavuika ER is useless sincr she relies on nightsoul - and for arlecchino she doesn't need ER since her damage comes from her NAs.
With that logic, don’t get Arlecchino cuz all she can do is on-field DPS. While Mavuika can provide off field sub DPS and supportive capabilities.
For newer players, please pull for Neuvi and Zhongli, theyre a great help to your account ( checkout their kits and playstyle though and see if its to your liking ) BUT im sure they arent a waste of primos. Mavuika will rerun after a couple of patches, and youll have to wait for the dragons to rerun prolly a year or less.
His beam is indeed long and wet
in the end it comes down to if you like wet Horizantal beam or rock hard vertical beam
to each their own
Ppl who want citlali >>>>>>>>>
Like I care about her more than the pyro archon why you might ask?
First she is so cool,grandma, and she is Cryo sooooo gurl isn't coming back until danslif's banner
@@mohamedalawety3549 she synergizes really good with arlecchino chasca and neuvillete 🥳 i love her definitely skipping mavuika for granny
😂😂😂😂
Granny is mine
Gonna pull for granny 100%, fell in love with her design as soon as i saw her on the AQ and her personality is just the best (for me)
@@dysvara8975 i like her both in character and story wise and a usefull cryp support
She is perfect
Don't listen to some doomposters here. As stated, you'll have plenty of time before the banner ends to know more about mavuika, and if you really like the character and the value she brings, then pull for her.
So is the tdlr; wait for a special program before pulling phase two banners? Cause I can get behind that
Yes that is precisely what he is trying to say.
@@agentorder4604 that's basically what he said, mostly to people who's not sure about pulling or skipping these banners. I don't know why people are hating
Guys pls don't listen to him i love you moga but you can't make assumptions on mavuika's kit and advise people to skip the best character in the game for speculations I won't leak anything but let's just say neuvillete is better than mavuika
Its better to wait until near the end of the banner , so there is a better previews for mavuika
Current theory crafting Calcs post V3 update say she has the current highest dps team in the game as a dps, and is comparable or better than Xiangling as a offield dps support
So far she's comparable to neuvi what are you on about
@@KgaogeloNdhlovu Yes she's good but only better by around 10% than arlecchino and since she's a dps she'll get powercrept sooner than you think and finally she still gets out dpsed by neuvillete in aoe
@@Starrofheart in single target scenarios only and with a restricted team to another character running alongside her "citlali" so a high cost little improvements character
I was pulling for Heizou at 30 pity and 50/50. I got C1 Neuvillette instead and still no Heizou. Yeah, he's the only 4-star I don't have. Looks like it's going to remain that way.
"Archons are flexible."
Yes, true, and that's exactly why the Pyro Archon will be a skip because she is the only one who won't be. Not only is she an onfielder and has much worse off field presence than any previous Archon but also requires Natlan units on the team to not underperform massively in the on field role.
These banners up together should be a crime! Right before Mauvika. I am livid.
While I do agree, there should definitely be an asterisk to this. He mentioned it but it got a little buried: just wait until there is official information on Mavuika released. We will know her official kit before the banners for 5.2 end. And who you pull on really comes down to who you personally like and what other characters you have built.
If you have every character in the game, and many of them well built, Zhongli isn't the best option for most teams. And also, if you have many on-field DPS characters built pulling another on-Field DPS character often has lower account value than a new off-field DPS or support character, and though Neuvi is the best DPS in the game he can only function as an on-field character.
For example, on my alt account that has Furina, Xilonen, and Kazuha all built with Ayato, Ayaka, and Chlorinde being the only decent on-field DPS character it has, I went for C1 Neuvi since I don't have a very solid 2nd side team and I already have his most meta team already built, and I also have an r5 sac jade on that account. Great pull for that account.
However, on my main, I have Hu Tao, Chasca, Arlecchino, Raiden, Keqing, Mualani, Navia, and Ayaka with most of them well built. I also have supports for them all built, with most of the 4* supports being c6. Neuvi on that account isn't needed at all. I also have 5 characters built for shields and a c0r1 Xilonen, making Zhongli not really worth it either. But if Mavuika is an off-field pyro DPS, that is also from Natlan, then that is a great pull for my account since I'll have a character that can hold cinder city in my overload teams and many others that can make use of off-field pyro.
It really comes down to personal preference and how your account is built. For Moga's account, these characters aren't worth it. However for an account that has no good on-field DPS carry or one that doesn't have Xilonen or any decent 4* shield character, then Neuvi and Zhongli will go up in account value.
Neuvillette slander is crazy🤣🤣. He is the most broken hydro DPS in the whole game. He might have a simpler playstyle than most of the other DPS in the game but he is so strong. I kid you not I use him in every spiral abyss run. If you're looking for a strong DPS that can bring you through the hardest content in the game get neuvillette and if you want to make him even stronger get furina on her next rerun but he's still really good even without her
Who's gonna tell him about Mavuika 😭
She’s actually really good, y’all are just mad she’s more of a dps than a support, get over it.
I know she's good and I'm obviously not mad you're just making stuff up
@@joshuaw.7882 yeah people should just get over it when hoyo finally had the chance to give us a better xiangling+bennet replacement after literally 4 years with mavuika but no they said we just need another pyro dps that maybe support the team if you give her the specific artifact set
@@UnazoSama you can make her a pyro applicator with her skill, and her burst also gives damage bonus, y’all just continue to overlook that and focus only on her being a dps, I feel like she could be both, just depends on how you want to build her.
@@UnazoSamaShe is literally better than Xiangling. Y’all just live in the past and can’t seem to accept it for some reason. Every reputable TC is saying she’s better than Xiangling.
Bruh, y’all are like those people that said Nahida and Furina are trash before their release, yet look where we are now. I’m calling it right now, Mavuika is gonna have high usage rates and steady meta presence both as an on-fielder and off-fielder.
Let's not forget she also need another natlan character if you want to utilise her kit comfortably. Meanwhile, Neuvillette is a proved and tested meta character.
Also, she's just another pyro dps that will also most likely get powercrept in the future, that's just how gacha works
Agreed and disagreed, you do need a natlan character but not as much as you think to be exact but, yes she will lose out on a decent amount of DPS damage after the first burst and I do agree with the point that her f2p weapon is not better than that of Neuv's ones, (My guy is really flexible.) She does have those restrictions but in return, you get her supporting capabilities (for off-field support, I believe you might have already seen the TGS video but if you haven't I recommend you see the TGS video after this, the vid is flawed but it does its thing). If you have Xilonen then you are good to go, and hey Xilo is a meta character who doesn't love her or even Citlali is enough (not as much as xilo but) to do some serious damage but a less on field time for Mavuika. For a player like me who doesn't have well built pyro DPS, I'm decently happy about her kit but her motorcycle animations are a bit goofy but still, DEVIL MAY CRY MOTORCYCLE AND DOOM CRUCIBLE SWORD REFERENCE!!!
If we talking about other archon yes but this archon is pure dps who need xilonen or citlali (kachina can't because her skill cd is long)
Natlan's characters feel really weak outside Natlan due to shorter time on their skills so I'll probably skip Mavuika
They should add an artifact set effect that has an all elemental res shred when applying shield to you or the party. Zhongli would sky rocket with that set, to balance it, you can only take it into effect for one character wielding the set. And the effect can persist even when the wielder of this set is not on the field. And the 2pc gives 25%hp. Cool idea tbh
yall DONT pull for constellations, mavuika is gonna be an on field/sub dps rather than a support (afawk), dont pull for constellations on them but if u dont have neuvillette he is a must pull (zhongli less so bcuz citlali is coming soon and bcuz hes not useful against rifthounds or with characters like furina) but constellations dont do too much in terms of boosting your progression/account/abyss capabilities
Whales might not use zhongli but I am 100% sure 85% of the players do pick zhongli
I thought about pulling for Neuvi cons, but Id rather get Mavuika.
2 new shielders are coming next patch so I'm not sure about anything pulling for him right now
i am glad i alrady have nev and zhongli so i can focus on mauvika or citlali or any upcoming character
pulling for neuvillette because 1. i like his playstyle 2. he’s pretty 3. i want him in a team with furina 4. don’t need or want zhongli 5. don’t care about upcoming characters rn
the only time i really saved for a character was for kinich because pretty and cannon
Zhongli is the reason i started playing genshin, his 4.0 banner ended before i could get eny 5 stars, i'm going to pull for him goddamit
I like your content Moga but this is the kind of video you shouldn't make.
1) Yaoyao is pretty good at C0. Her constellations don't do much for her.
2) F2P weapon for Neuvillette isn't that good for him? Brother, Prototype Amber is one of his best weapon and synergizes with a Furina team. Saying Ash-Graven is better is wild.
These 2 banners are the example of best shield and best DPS (imo). They will vastly improve any account without them, evidently by their usage rate (yes, Zhongli has always been top 1 or 2 tier in abyss).
I’m gonna get hydro daddy, I’m GONNA DO IT!!
Me who got neuvi at 80 pulls and Zhongli in 21 pity,
Me watching this video: hmmmm interesting
I hate all those meta heads in the comment section. Genshin is a game, for God's sake-pull for who you want! Though, keep in mind, Mauvica is reliant on Xilonen and Citlali.
I mean, while I'm skipping these banners for already having both of them, the thing about the pyro archon doesn't excite me, meaning I'll lean towards Citlali on 5.3
Don't listen to Moga, pull neuvi, mavuika would have rerun soon enough
0:05 DAYMMM THE TRANSITIONNNNNNN
zhongli is God for me who just started on 5.0 and rushed to world level 8 without even my characters properly built, and I honestly don't care about speedrunning or even high damage competition or even the abyss, unlike other players I can live without doing them
I don't care. I got my c1 and I will keep pulling since I like the 4 stars. If I get another neuvi then great. If I don't get another, also fine. I will build pity.
(Up till now I had c2 Fischl. And that's counting the ones I got for free for events. I have been here since Childe's first banner. I just necer get fischls. But at least I got her c3 now).
God bless you 🙏 your pulls
Zhongli's usage has seen some rises since the release of chiori. Not every chiori havers has her c1, meaning at most of the time beside itto team comps, chiori is run with zhongli. Apart from giving a strong shield, he gives geo construct to maximize chiori's passive.
I pulled for nuvi cuz I know mavuika will have a rerun eventually and want to wait and see if she is worth it while everything settles down, while I don't know when he will have a rerun.
Ight I was a day one player havent played since the shougun came out is it possible to still get good even though i probably missed years of stuff that’ll never come back
God that transition at 0:05 was so clean I can see my own reflection from the moon with eyesight of a koala.
I would say to pull on these banners if you want the characters cuz mavuika will have a rerun soon after her release just like other archons' first banners and these characters may not have a rerun (especially neuvillette) till version 6.x so its gonna be a lot longer than mavuika's rerun.
PSA: info from videos like these must be taken with a grain of salt. After all, it's just the CC's opinion. And everyone has their own preferences, needs, and priorities… I suggest actually playing and replaying the Trial to see if you really want to play that Character for months, years on end.
For me though, I'm skipping. I'm still not done with Mualani and Tartar Sauce, both Hydro on-fielders, and I already have Zhongli, C6 Fischl, and C6 Heizou. I also have Fontaine at 100% already, so Neuvillette's underwater stamina saver isn't gonna help me much anymore. I also have a lot of other DPS built already, so another isn't really gonna help me, and with Kazuha and Xilonen on my roster, I'm set for life. And finally, there's the budget issue… I'm saving as much as I can for Mavuika, and I can't afford any more impulse rolling, not with all the pulling I did in 5.0 and 5.1…
so tl;dr for anyone who isn't at the top 0,1%: yes it's incredibly worth pulling. the sheer amount of characters we have so far opens up enough options for anyone at any level to build incredibly strong teams. Most characters you get early and often are extremely good supports/off dps (fischl, xiangling, xingqiu, bennett, dendro mc,etc.) to the point it is kind of difficult to really get good main dps at the very beginning unless one is lucky with their pulls. this is why i can justify getting neuvilette.
and zhong li is still incredibly strong and a staple in many team comps and the minimizing language used in the video really undersells him.
also regarding the char being potentially incredibly strong: the same could be said, like you said, for all the other archons and many other characters. as far as i know the games difficulty hasn't increased a ton over the years yet most characters have gotten much stronger (whether through stuff like new characters being added that help them shine more or new artifacts, weapons, etc.). The game is powercrept. i think it's good to remind oneself that this isn't 1.0 anymore where there were not a lot of characters yet.
Ngl im hating these region exclusive characters. Navia was fantastic in Fontaine. Bring her to Natlan and it feels like I went from a nuke warhead to a BB Gun. I now have a half as built Chases with her weapon and I’m nuking again. These characters are only good for whatever path we’re on now :/
I got all 3 4 stars, Razor, The Bell, and Neuvillette within 25 pulls lol
Well ama be honest yall.
Shes ass as a support even with the natlan set.
Shes worst than xianglung as a sup dps.
And as a dps shes around 20 to 15% better than arlecchino.
Honestly just save if you have arlecchino and we are absolutely getting furina in 5.4.
And if anything mavuika will rerun again around 5.6 5.7
Of yeah forgot to say that she has aloot of restriction that if you don't have xilonen you litterly can't use her right
You restarts are still going around spreading misinfo huh?
Thank you, someone with a brain. Citlali worths it more atp cus theres not much of cryo supports like her in the game but then again shneznaya is coming so idk but i'm once again more hyped about the new 4 star more than anything.
You're telling people not to pull the best on field dps in the game because her bonus role is "only" a sidegrade to fucking XL.. the character so strong that the xl copypasta exists??
wtf else do you want in Mavuika's kit before you admit she's insanely good? Do you need her to fly further than Chasca and have 100% IR and fuck it might as well add in Bennett buff too?? Or would you still be doomposting even with all that lmao
@@dalzmc but that's not what he said. She's not a good support and that's a fact she was meant as a dps. Her sub dps is worse than xiangling that's also a fact bc for hydros to shine they need a ton of off field application which mavuika doesn't provide and dmg wise it's basically the same. Her dps is great but we have soooo many pyro dpss atp and she's not even that better than arlecchino yeah a bit more like 10%/20% more dmg but she's also quite clunky so if you have arlecchino she does not worth it and it's better to have a neuvi and arlecchino (2 different element dps) than to have two pyro dps. Also she will return sooner or later bc she's an archon. Not like citlali will. And she really wants xilonen while, it's like the xiao xianyun or wanderer and C6 faruzan and neuvi and furina situtation again, bc yeah they are good but theres always that one support who is always like a need to them (C6 mika for eula, shenhe for ayaka etc theres soooo many)
To late, already burned 150 pulls and finally got my funny hydro pump.
And i still have more or less 120 pulls and counting for Mavuika's banner
Does He Know? Clueless
Zhongli's shield is twice as good as Citali's, or three times under more optimal circumstances. So the one to be skipped there is unfortunately Citali. (She was the unit I was most looking forward to but it can't be helped, weak shield and EM on Cryo units is just garbage)
The archon is not an off field unit and is a cope for that role, and I don't need an onfielder.
The 4 star will be free in Lantern Rite.
No, the new units provide zero reason to save this time, unfortunately. And we've already seen the last beta update to those units. They'd need to do a last second complete overhaul on the release to change that for me.
Pull both and never have to pull again! They both require minimal investment to be insanely impactful. Archons are usually just dmg buffers all archons can be skipped if your carry is as good as neuvilette.
I am pulling Neuvilette againg because I like the characters and he is the best dps in my opinion
Trying for C2 now
Genshin’s marketing team is really smart lol
This feels like a forced video making it obvious you ran out of ideas and adding a controversial clickbait title just to get a bit more views
Sorry but with the drought of any new 5* males, I need Neuvi and Zhongli
Mavuika will come early January - so after the current banners
But i need big zhongli ball😔
Then pull for him his shield is amazing! Just because there’s “better” characters out there doesn’t mean the other ones aren’t useable
@ yeahhh, I tried and I lost to tignari lmao😭
@ rip 😭 u still have some time tho so good luck if you keep pulling!
@ ahhhh thankyou sm!😭Need all the blessings I can get
that transition from Zhongli's burst to the wish animation was pretty cool
Everyone talks about Spiral Abyss teams and not Imaginarium Theater teams.
Because for IT people focus more on their 4 stars
2:13 I'm gonna hold your hand when i say this but...Mavuika is a dps
She can also be used as a sub dps like Raiden
@thatguy2nice that's one of my frustrations... her tap E is like a downgraded version of XL's burst with worse Pyro app
@@cancer5950 but if she spplies to much pyro, she going to ruin team comp rotation. A whole lot of characters can not keep up that and pyro is very reactive element. Once a target is hit with pyro it creates a reaction and instantly removes the other element involved. That is the whole purpose of making it 2 secs not instant.
@thatguy2nice so does XL ruin team comps? No. People want an XL powercreep because of her limited range and huge energy requirements. Other than that,XL is perfect. We don't want another on field frontloaded Pyro dps.
@@thatguy2nicegang if that was a problem XL wouldn't be meta
Another Pyro carry, impressive Hoyoverse😯
Agreed that supports are more valuable than dps characters but Mavuika isn't gonna be an excellent support like Nahida or Furina
She'll be a dps and TCs are saying she's still stronger than Arlecchino even after the v2 nerfs. Also, she has off-field pyro application and doesn't have an insane ER requirements like Xiangling
Overall, Mavuika is worth skipping Neuvillette IMO. Same case for Zhongli since 2 new shielders are coming the next patch.
Why is there so much negativity in the comments, isn't is obvious the archon is the most anticipated character in the game every region ? He's just recommending to think a little before pulling. In a month either my comment will age poorly or half of these people in the comments will be crying to get mavuika.
the only reason neuvillete is good enough, is because we don't have much alternative hydro unit, like we only have three of 4* hydro, and hydro reaction are one of the most flexible reaction and is disgusting how much hoyo gate keeping the element
Got c1 Nuvi this time (got his c0 at like 20 pity when he came out)
Got C2 neuvi in some 40 pulls super happy bcz who knows how good mauvika would be as iam hearing she works better with only natlan characters
0:06 that transition was CLEAN😲
imagine still not having the storage for 5.2:
😭
I think you should be fine if you summon... I mean you won't be missing out that much 😭
You can get Zhongli instead of weaker zhongli with off field application and Nuevillette instead of restricted Nuevillette with kinda ok off field application
I did two summons and got Neuvillete which is who I wanted 😩, I alr had zhongli so the rest of my summons imma save for archon
Support?😭😭😭I wishhhh!😭
that thumbnail is godly.
Me: Pulls neuvilette C1, absolutely demolishes every boss in the game with 60k charged atk (with furina, kazuha, and xilonen).
I got C1R1 Neuvillette in 180 pulls, worth it
Your so lucky 🤓
@Moontonboss why the nerd emoji lol
@@reikougasfind it funny 😂 I don't mean (offens)😊 congratulations 👏
Pull for Neuvi C1 and Lost 50/50 to Jean. So right now I've got C6 Jean as F2P. But all is forgiven since I've got him like 1 pull later.
Heizhou is having his stonks rising up because people are using him as a VV+TTDS Bot in IT.
Please dont go for Zhongli rn wait till the livestream SERIOUSLY
Why dont you people just wait to the end of the patch... mavuika kit and numbers would be rreleased and then you could comfortably decide who you want or whos more valuable
Are there any people here happy getting vortex vanquisher?
No
@kawansiesquad6659 fr😭 pls be happy ☺️
@@Moontonboss oh I didn’t get vortex vanquisher. I’m too f2p to afford the weapon banner, I ain’t risking primos on that. But nobody’s happy to get the most useless 5 star sig weapon in the game😅😅
"I personally wouldn't summon for him", and here me who did main him till loke AR45, that too totally new as when i came to genshin he dropped too i.e. 2.8. Ppl forget he is ANEMO DPS.
I lost the 50/50 on neuvilette banner. If i get a 5 star on mauvika orr citlali banner will it be guaranteed to be one of them?
Well let me say
Xilonen skippers are not gonna enjoy the next version 💀💀💀💀💀
EVERYONE mavuika will be dps, if you have arlechinno get Neuvillete
Damn that was a smooth transition in the beggining 😭
I got both with no guaranteed in 60 wishes, Im not really interested in mavuika, but if she ends up being strong i might get her in a rerun
I’m just happy to be a Neuvilette main from the get go😊😊😊. Got him on release then got teammates like Furina and Baizhu on reruns (already have Kazuha since 2.8), then got his C1 on rerun as well. Now I’m getting his signature to truly complete everything.
From i started genshin back when it first launched i made up my mind i would pull for characters that i like. So mainly waifus. The two male characters i use as the exception are bennet and cyno.
Meta dont matter and abilities dont matter. If i like the characters, their designs and they are fun to play then they get pulled for
I have 50* pulls built up on both weapon and character banner so I’m pulling on weapon cuz why not