Thanks for the vid. Excellent. The clone is so good that (at the price) I'd probably prefer it. Especially with that funky blade shape. Well done China..
Exactly my thought. Americans need to understand that the rest of the world uses metric. Strider knives are american designed so therefore use imperial units
You know, Mick Strider should shift production of his knives to China, put a new logo on them, bring the price down, and continue some professional series in the US. This way he would hit 2 birds with one stone: He would make knives for the people and to the professionals. He would have the elite for 400 USD and the hobby for 30 USD. The difference would be in perception and minute quality. And no more clones. Chinese would be happy, as these introduce the wish for the elite version. Mick would be happy, because he would produce 1000X more knives.
Clone looks better. Much better :) Dear Chinese manufacturer! Thank you for such a wonderful knife. You are very rich, because you can afford to manufacture a wonderful knife for cheap price, making many people happy. Please put logo made in China, so that I know this is better than the original! Keep up the good work!
+Andras Havas I bought a Case bone handled 3 blade folder. It was such a piece of shit I had to send it back. They sent the same knife back in even worse shape! I returned it and bought a similar imported Buck SET (that's 2 knives) for $20. 1/3 the cost of the Made in USA junk. When I spoke to Case on the phone they didn't give a fuck. Why should I?
Although there must be many poor companies, the copies of best knives for a bit more cash should be good. I believe the cheapest is bad in all countries. However this is just a feeling. I.e. There is the Linton Seal 9008. Aaah a strider copy shit. And in the end, it is better looking, and just as good. Maybe the edge does not hold that long, but I heard somebody made a bigger angle and its good as the best.
The biggest way to tell besides the obvious gunner grip would be its missing the M.Strider stamp. Any Strider with a nightmare grind would be a custom done by Mick.
Another thing is that the fake is supposed to be a custom Strider and therefore should either be stamped M. Strider or etched M. Strider (depending on era), but it is just stamped Strider.
Seems you have saved a lot of people from being ignorant.....including myself now. Thank you VERY much Brother!!! i have such an urge to own a Strider and i hope that i learned enough information to keep me from buying a knock off. Thumbs up and Favorites!!!
So 10 years later, I go to the Mick Strider site, and compare my brand new SMF to the pictures. It’s real. I looked at certain sections of the grip, and they matched up perfect. Also, 1/8” Allen key fit the pivot.
Man I wish Mick and Dwayne were still together pumping out knives. I deeply regret selling my DGG SnG’s because the new DGG striders aren’t the same. Makes me sad. Glad you got yourself a legit one though!
@@jdavis882 I had held off on getting a Strider, because they were not hard to get. Then I found out they shut it down. I finally had to break down, and pay the middle man. I was dead set on G-10 presentation side, but ended up with the aluminum gunner grip. It’s very strong, and light. The jimping matches up very nice. The grinds are perfect. On the tanto end though, is not super sharp, but the flat part is. It feels as if they barely missed going deep enough on the tanto tip. I can fix that easy enough, but I’m just going to leave it that way. It’ll do the job as intended.
check the Usual Suspects Network, Mick Strider stated that they are getting away from the radiused blade Lock Face to a more Linear Blade Lock Face to rectify the blade locking issues that they have been having. You forgot to spot the missing Lanyard Hole on the Clones G-10 handle side.
Pretty wild how close these look man. Thanks for offering some thoughts on this - kinda scares me since I'm considering picking up a used strider at some point.
@dazi4131 Actually the DGG fakes use 440c, but some fakes from the same manufacturer that were available a few months ago used D2. Also the manufacturer is releasing another batch of fake strider SMFs with D2 blades, though the new batch are not DGG. I wish I would have gotten one of the ones that were available a few months ago since those had titanium on both sides.
Very good video, helped 100%. I was afraid I had purchased a clone but not the case, I have a real Strider and now I know it due to your video. Nice and Thanks
The new smfs have smaller opening holes. I have a fairly new one (that i bought new from bladehq in january 2012)post radius and a older radiused one. The older one has a larger hole. Flaming is the same. The new one though has the feathers etched into the logo, the older one does not. Just thought id throw it out there
These knock offs are getting better and better. I've also seen some fake Sebenzas that look 90% like the real thing. Getting worried about buying used Striders and CRKs now.
This video was made 8 years ago. The clones they have now are %100 better. They are better than even the real Strider, I know cause I owe 2 of them and I owned a real Strider 6 years ago. The handles are made from real titanium, the blade steel is S35v. The lock up on those things are solid, no play at all, and the tolerance on them are spot on, dead center. And the insane part is they are going for $65-$120, depending on the type of steel and handle you want. I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for saying this, but I'm simply stating the facts and my observations. Am I upset that a Chinese replica that costs 6-8 times cheaper appears to be build better, with higher percision and quality, you damn right I am, but it's just the way it is. Ultimately it's up to a consumer do decide what they want to spend their money on. If you are a collector than it would be stupid to buy a fake. But if you just want a high quality knife that is solid and looks like the real deal but u intend to use it and abuse it then beating the he'll out of a $60 dollar knife makes way more seance than destroying a $600-$1000 dollar knife. That's my two cents on the topic.
I agree 100%. BUT, I own a real SNG and a SMP and would like to find one of the high quality clones. A $75 dollar knife that one can actually abuse with no worries is not a bad thing.
I'll add something else to this...the clip looks quite a bit off from the real one as well. It's almost touching the edge of the lock bar on the fake. Actually at an angel unlike the real one which is clearly pointing straight. Might not be the case on all, but something I've noticed.
The price is also a big giveaway. A few years ago at my local flea market the old man who sells knifes had a benchmade presidio auto. I took a look at it thought it was cool, but 190 dollars was a little more than I wanted. to spend. I recently went back there a saw the same knife all corroded in the case. Went home and did some research, found out that the knife sells for 250, also, his knife was in a blue box and benchmade uses a black box on this model. I wonder if he knows its fake.
this will most likely be the reason i don't buy any striders from ebay. all a person has to do is buy it cheap and price it high and no one would know they were buying a counterfeit.
Imagine you opened a business, spent years perfecting your product and name, and paid your employees a fair wage. Then a company from overseas steals your idea, steals your work and image and brand you've spent years building and developing, pays their employees 1/10th of what you're paying, and charges way less for their product. Do you still think it's fair? Do you still support these thieves?
I just ordered a Strider SMF clone with nightmare grind for 58.5$ :P just to get the feel of the SMF, i do got a real Strider WP and a Emerson Gentleman Jim so im geting this just to feel if i like the SMF size. Its really scary that china clones are that close to the real thing and for like 1/10 of the price :O
Just saw a clone sell on ebay for over 666.00 was from a estate sale company. I informed and where I found the clone, pretty sure the buyer paid it and all. Sucks how people throw out so much money and don't first research! The name in the title didn't match the listing! So weird, if anything I research too much
Couple more obvious flaws, the lanyard hole isn't drilled on the G-10 side. And their flame treat pattern will never look like that, gunner grip or not.
I've got a KO for $30. For what it is it's a great knife. Holds a great edge and has good ergos. I use it for a edc work knife so if it breaks or gets lost no big deal. Just be sure of what your buying.
The thing is that a real STRIDER is not likely to break unless you're trying to destroy it. I have a SNG and have used it to split firewood into kindling. A good whack on the spine of the blade not the end of the handle, makes quick work of red oak firewood into red oak kindling. Yeah, I know. Who would do such a thing?I did. Stupid? Yeah, probably. But, the damn thing just works. Only drawback is trying to put on a new edge. The steel is soooo hard its really no easy task.
Good video, I am not a knife expert but its nice to know the difference, I personally would buy the chinese clone. The quality is too close a call, but the price far outweighs the ridiculous overpricing of a genuine strider or any original U.S.A. made knife, strewth and I thought it was expensive here in rip off UK.
so the clone is a better deal? everything I hear except from the kind of steel seems better. Thicker stronger g10 and TI on the clone and a linier contact point on the tang.The knife comes rock solid as well which striders not know for :( Idk because Ive never felt a strider but the videos I watch seem to show the exact same knife with different cosmetic markings with a better lock at a price tag thats half the cost. I would like to get my hands on one just to see. JMHO thanks for the great vid
impressive....when i saw the nightmare grid, i got confused...a friend of mine was claiming he saw striders on craigslist for 200-300 bucks.....great vid, that just goes to show you, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.
there are some higher end clones that goe for up to $99, but i opted for one that looks like the one in this vid (drop point though) for 20 bucks. i will probably never handle a real one since i don't personally know many knife people and i can't afford one, so i just want to know why people hate them or love them. china does make really good knives from time to time. it is beyond me why they wouldn't produce their own designs and brand them correctly. i have a spyderco dragonfly for $10 that is shocklingly close to the original. if you don't have the real thing right next to it it's really hard to tell! (video on my channel)
Tactical X-Rays Its because they wanna be special...If we can't afford the over priced one they love that status symbol. But, it pisses them off that we can get a knife that is as good looking or sometimes better for 1\10 the price they paid....Now watch someone say something about my statement....It shouldn't matter what other people buy or where, but, they keep trying to convince people that its wrong....Well if they intellectual property owners don't even try to stop them from doing it, It must be all good. LOL I even watched nutnfancy's boy say on video, that when we buy copies, It promotes terrorism. I highly doubt it.
@kirimikium You don't think I tried both?! It actually IS some kind of mystery size. Most likely meant to be a set size, but poor quality makes it something......else
I really enjoyed this video and now must have one of those fake striders. If you know or can figure out any more info on them please let me know jd! I honestly think they are really cool lol I'm gonna have to get one.
It's a shame that they don't just go ahead and make a quality knife. From what you've said they are only lacking proper steel/heat treat. They have all the tooling in place, obviously. Use that tooling and draw up some new designs of their own and they would be off and running.
Sorry, I misspelled strider. I collect $100.00 or less tactical folding knives d2 steel and g10 or titanium scales the Chinese made knives from aliexpress are 100% perfect. Ball bearing pivot, lockup,centering fit and finish they are all perfect. Of my 25 or so knives, the Chinese made knives are the best, most perfect knives.
You mentioned blade thickness, but didn't say what the thickness should be. Is it 4.0 mm or more/less? Which one? The " female part" of the screw you were talking about is called a ' blind nut' or ' recessed blind nut ' And the " lock face " on a STRIDER is angled and not flat. With one edge higher or lower than the other. The fake is flat, no angle and 90* to the inner handles. Not a " radius or linear" like you stated. Also, on the real Strider knife, the blade just beyond the thumb button protrudes more in the notched area than a clone which is flatter and less pronounced. This point is clearly evident when comparing the two side by side. The difference is probably close to 1/10 mm or so, and shoes more exposed steel in the original than the clone.
You hit it right on the head. Just saw this video. Been wanting a Strider for a long time. If the fake can be made and sold for $70-$90 and be so close to the original that Mick Strider had a hard time telling, then the original IS a scam IMO.
hey jdavis just wanted to ask if you could tell me where you got the fake strider i want a high end knife but i can't afford anything like a real one i have to pay for my dorms and classes so i'd settle for a fake one i like how it looks i was looking at aliexpress is that a good place? and hey just want to thank you for the videos you make they're very interesting and i've learned great sharpening skills from you thinking of buying stropman now thank you keep up the nice work
Hey buddy. Just bought a strider on bf, it’ll be my first. Now I’m worrying it’s a fake. It’s an smf, can u help me tell if it’s real? Maybe what size Alan key is that? Maybe some measurements on the thickness of the titanium. I’d really appreciate it buddy. It’s an smf btw
VIDEOS great but if I'm out to buy my FIRST strider I don't have anything to compare it too now Im hesitant on buying I love Amazon but I'm afraid to buy knives from there any way of knowing on amazon if its a fake or real deal thanks------scott
I don't condone purchasing or supporting the manufacturers of the knock off.....but....to be able to handle a $90 clone that is 85-90% accurate in order to ensure I like the ergonomics enough to spend $500-$700 on an authentic edition is almost worth it for the piece of mind. If we look at it as a try before you buy purpose.....maybe.
I just placed a bid on a strider with that fire logo, but it doesn't have a flying sword logo. Did Strider use to do that or is this knife a clone (i havn't bought it yet)
So I could use a little help here if you have a moment. I have a long time friend who's grandfather passed away and he passed a few of his old stuff down to him and this happen to include a Strider knife. He was actually offering to sell it to me, as he has no real interest in knives and doesn't mean as much to him as some of the other things passed down to him. I was really considering and about to make the deal since he offered it to me for $250 and it's in basically mint condition. I took a look at the details you described here but there is something that seems way off to me, as I'm far from a Strider expert. It does not have the STRIDER or the "flying penis" on the blade at all, but in the finger choil is an engraved signature that reads M. Strider. Has this been done in the past and is this possibly a real Strider? As I said it was passed down and could be quite old. Neither of us know for sure. Thanks for the video man. Thumbs up.
Right.......and all of those costs apply here, in an order of magnitude. Now tell me again why some knife makers are "out of their minds with pricing."
Stop pin diameter - Yours look slightly larger. Maybe like that to adjust your U/D blade play. Clip alignment looks different too. Do you have brick shit houses in the USA?
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I love the fact that its smoother than the real one.
We miss you buddy. Come back to knife content please.
Thanks for the vid. Excellent. The clone is so good that (at the price) I'd probably prefer it. Especially with that funky blade shape. Well done China..
At 6:00 try metric and standard allen wrenches.
Exactly my thought. Americans need to understand that the rest of the world uses metric. Strider knives are american designed so therefore use imperial units
SO how do you tell if it's a real strider? Wimpy stock, gritty action, and crappy machining marks. LOL..awesome.
lol thanks for the good laugh.
lol basically, 'looks like a worse flimsy made version? ah that's the real one folks'
the screws are probably metric sizes i am in canada and we need to deal with both kinds
It's clear that the maker has talent. If they made their own designs then I probably would have bought one.
Very accurate knockoff.
You know, Mick Strider should shift production of his knives to China, put a new logo on them, bring the price down, and continue some professional series in the US. This way he would hit 2 birds with one stone: He would make knives for the people and to the professionals. He would have the elite for 400 USD and the hobby for 30 USD. The difference would be in perception and minute quality. And no more clones. Chinese would be happy, as these introduce the wish for the elite version. Mick would be happy, because he would produce 1000X more knives.
But he could say, that his knives are affordable and good. And the fakers would be no cheaper than the original....
+Paddy B. The clone makes have their knives being copied now. They all get fucked in the end.
@enCasinoJack Thanks for chiming in. I still cannot give over how accurate this thing is, amazing!
Clone looks better. Much better :)
Dear Chinese manufacturer! Thank you for such a wonderful knife. You are very rich, because you can afford to manufacture a wonderful knife for cheap price, making many people happy. Please put logo made in China, so that I know this is better than the original! Keep up the good work!
+Andras Havas I bought a Case bone handled 3 blade folder. It was such a piece of shit I had to send it back. They sent the same knife back in even worse shape! I returned it and bought a similar imported Buck SET (that's 2 knives) for $20. 1/3 the cost of the Made in USA junk. When I spoke to Case on the phone they didn't give a fuck. Why should I?
Although there must be many poor companies, the copies of best knives for a bit more cash should be good. I believe the cheapest is bad in all countries. However this is just a feeling. I.e. There is the Linton Seal 9008. Aaah a strider copy shit. And in the end, it is better looking, and just as good. Maybe the edge does not hold that long, but I heard somebody made a bigger angle and its good as the best.
Correct me if I'm wrong. The only Striders with swedges are the TAD Striders. That has always helped me.
draco00 you're wrong
great clone
The biggest way to tell besides the obvious gunner grip would be its missing the M.Strider stamp. Any Strider with a nightmare grind would be a custom done by Mick.
Another thing is that the fake is supposed to be a custom Strider and therefore should either be stamped M. Strider or etched M. Strider (depending on era), but it is just stamped Strider.
Seems you have saved a lot of people from being ignorant.....including myself now. Thank you VERY much Brother!!! i have such an urge to own a Strider and i hope that i learned enough information to keep me from buying a knock off.
Thumbs up and Favorites!!!
not sure if anyone mentioned this but the pivot is most likely a Torx pivot.
So 10 years later, I go to the Mick Strider site, and compare my brand new SMF to the pictures. It’s real. I looked at certain sections of the grip, and they matched up perfect. Also, 1/8” Allen key fit the pivot.
Man I wish Mick and Dwayne were still together pumping out knives. I deeply regret selling my DGG SnG’s because the new DGG striders aren’t the same. Makes me sad. Glad you got yourself a legit one though!
@@jdavis882
I had held off on getting a Strider, because they were not hard to get. Then I found out they shut it down. I finally had to break down, and pay the middle man. I was dead set on G-10 presentation side, but ended up with the aluminum gunner grip. It’s very strong, and light. The jimping matches up very nice. The grinds are perfect.
On the tanto end though, is not super sharp, but the flat part is. It feels as if they barely missed going deep enough on the tanto tip. I can fix that easy enough, but I’m just going to leave it that way. It’ll do the job as intended.
The anodizing actually looks pretty cool.
check the Usual Suspects Network, Mick Strider stated that they are getting away from the radiused blade Lock Face to a more Linear Blade Lock Face to rectify the blade locking issues that they have been having.
You forgot to spot the missing Lanyard Hole on the Clones G-10 handle side.
Pretty wild how close these look man. Thanks for offering some thoughts on this - kinda scares me since I'm considering picking up a used strider at some point.
Also the new one has the knurled females in it. The new ones have a similar lockface to the clone.
Dang I can't believe how real the fake looks! Thanks for educating us
you said 440c steal was cutting edge 20 years ago, I see what you did there
I have seen multiple new ones with the feathers on the logo. The one on the fake is close to the new striders logo.
@dazi4131 Actually the DGG fakes use 440c, but some fakes from the same manufacturer that were available a few months ago used D2. Also the manufacturer is releasing another batch of fake strider SMFs with D2 blades, though the new batch are not DGG.
I wish I would have gotten one of the ones that were available a few months ago since those had titanium on both sides.
the space between the 2 scales gave it off for me, and ive never had experience with a strider lol
Do you know where they got it?
on striders there is a flange of metal on the end of the clip that seats down into the handle so it doesn't swivel if the screw comes loose.
But, if the screw is loose for long enough, the little lip or protrusion will cut away at the handle and it will still .move a bit with a loose screw.
@@brianroberts5740 that's why I use loctite on those screws, defined not on the pivot though
The pocket clip was my first soot along with the tiger stripes
Strider must have learned something about lockup from the clone LOL
Very good video, helped 100%. I was afraid I had purchased a clone but not the case, I have a real Strider and now I know it due to your video. Nice and Thanks
The new smfs have smaller opening holes. I have a fairly new one (that i bought new from bladehq in january 2012)post radius and a older radiused one. The older one has a larger hole. Flaming is the same. The new one though has the feathers etched into the logo, the older one does not. Just thought id throw it out there
These knock offs are getting better and better. I've also seen some fake Sebenzas that look 90% like the real thing. Getting worried about buying used Striders and CRKs now.
@knifelover1225 You mean a Torx driver? No, it doesn't.
It's an out of spec metric allen head.
my first view of your channel, extremely well presented!
Allen keys probably aren't fitting because of the coating they put on the pivot. Perhaps it's a tad too thick.
This video was made 8 years ago. The clones they have now are %100 better. They are better than even the real Strider, I know cause I owe 2 of them and I owned a real Strider 6 years ago. The handles are made from real titanium, the blade steel is S35v. The lock up on those things are solid, no play at all, and the tolerance on them are spot on, dead center. And the insane part is they are going for $65-$120, depending on the type of steel and handle you want. I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for saying this, but I'm simply stating the facts and my observations. Am I upset that a Chinese replica that costs 6-8 times cheaper appears to be build better, with higher percision and quality, you damn right I am, but it's just the way it is. Ultimately it's up to a consumer do decide what they want to spend their money on. If you are a collector than it would be stupid to buy a fake. But if you just want a high quality knife that is solid and looks like the real deal but u intend to use it and abuse it then beating the he'll out of a $60 dollar knife makes way more seance than destroying a $600-$1000 dollar knife. That's my two cents on the topic.
Interesting. I’d love to have a new one just to check it out as a comparative.
I agree 100%. BUT, I own a real SNG and a SMP and would like to find one of the high quality clones. A $75 dollar knife that one can actually abuse with no worries is not a bad thing.
I'll add something else to this...the clip looks quite a bit off from the real one as well. It's almost touching the edge of the lock bar on the fake. Actually at an angel unlike the real one which is clearly pointing straight. Might not be the case on all, but something I've noticed.
@kirimikium On reals strider knives the logo is actually stamped into the steel. :)
One thing I noticed was the lanyard hole, on the clone, there is no hole on the g-10 side of the handle. What do you think?
The price is also a big giveaway. A few years ago at my local flea market the old man who sells knifes had a benchmade presidio auto. I took a look at it thought it was cool, but 190 dollars was a little more than I wanted. to spend. I recently went back there a saw the same knife all corroded in the case. Went home and did some research, found out that the knife sells for 250, also, his knife was in a blue box and benchmade uses a black box on this model. I wonder if he knows its fake.
"Kinda sad" is a repeat phrase when describing the real Strider....
this will most likely be the reason i don't buy any striders from ebay. all a person has to do is buy it cheap and price it high and no one would know they were buying a counterfeit.
So if someone is building a quality clone for half the price that performs equally to a real strider why buy a real strider??
Ellijah Smith Because of lifetime warrenty and pride of ownership.
So you can pay extra for a name...
Imagine you opened a business, spent years perfecting your product and name, and paid your employees a fair wage. Then a company from overseas steals your idea, steals your work and image and brand you've spent years building and developing, pays their employees 1/10th of what you're paying, and charges way less for their product. Do you still think it's fair? Do you still support these thieves?
Dear Sir
I don't know if it's me, but the copy doesn't seem to have a lanyard hole in the G10 slab.
I just ordered a Strider SMF clone with nightmare grind for 58.5$ :P just to get the feel of the SMF, i do got a real Strider WP and a Emerson Gentleman Jim so im geting this just to feel if i like the SMF size. Its really scary that china clones are that close to the real thing and for like 1/10 of the price :O
Just saw a clone sell on ebay for over 666.00 was from a estate sale company. I informed and where I found the clone, pretty sure the buyer paid it and all. Sucks how people throw out so much money and don't first research! The name in the title didn't match the listing! So weird, if anything I research too much
Couple more obvious flaws, the lanyard hole isn't drilled on the G-10 side. And their flame treat pattern will never look like that, gunner grip or not.
It doesn't, if you look closely you'll see that there is a little bar going from the top of the clip into a hole on the Ti.
First thing I noticed is that the fake doesn't have a lanyard hole on the G10 side.
Thanks for the info.
@snoozymoo I was going to suggest the metric allen keys as well.
Is that genuine titanium on the fake? Seems like it took some money to make if so.
I've got a KO for $30. For what it is it's a great knife. Holds a great edge and has good ergos. I use it for a edc work knife so if it breaks or gets lost no big deal. Just be sure of what your buying.
The thing is that a real STRIDER is not likely to break unless you're trying to destroy it.
I have a SNG and have used it to split firewood into kindling. A good whack on the spine of the blade not the end of the handle, makes quick work of red oak firewood into red oak kindling.
Yeah, I know. Who would do such a thing?I did. Stupid? Yeah, probably.
But, the damn thing just works.
Only drawback is trying to put on a new edge. The steel is soooo hard its really no easy task.
Good video, I am not a knife expert but its nice to know the difference, I personally would buy the chinese clone. The quality is too close a call, but the price far outweighs the ridiculous overpricing of a genuine strider or any original U.S.A. made knife, strewth and I thought it was expensive here in rip off UK.
Whether it's an original or a clone, the real STRIDER uses superior grade steel that the clone doesn't use.
so the clone is a better deal? everything I hear except from the kind of steel seems better. Thicker stronger g10 and TI on the clone and a linier contact point on the tang.The knife comes rock solid as well which striders not know for :( Idk because Ive never felt a strider but the videos I watch seem to show the exact same knife with different cosmetic markings with a better lock at a price tag thats half the cost. I would like to get my hands on one just to see. JMHO thanks for the great vid
I thought Strider changed the radiused lockface to a linear one?
Fake Or Not for as long as it can cut, slash and stab its fine with me....for what is a knife if it can't serve its primary purpose.....
but if you pay $500 for a genuine Stider and get a knockoff that might not be made of the desired steel, then you are getting ripped off.
PikkupAndropov Clones are D2 tool steel.
impressive....when i saw the nightmare grid, i got confused...a friend of mine was claiming he saw striders on craigslist for 200-300 bucks.....great vid, that just goes to show you, if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.
there are some higher end clones that goe for up to $99, but i opted for one that looks like the one in this vid (drop point though) for 20 bucks. i will probably never handle a real one since i don't personally know many knife people and i can't afford one, so i just want to know why people hate them or love them. china does make really good knives from time to time. it is beyond me why they wouldn't produce their own designs and brand them correctly. i have a spyderco dragonfly for $10 that is shocklingly close to the original. if you don't have the real thing right next to it it's really hard to tell! (video on my channel)
Tactical X-Rays Its because they wanna be special...If we can't afford the over priced one they love that status symbol. But, it pisses them off that we can get a knife that is as good looking or sometimes better for 1\10 the price they paid....Now watch someone say something about my statement....It shouldn't matter what other people buy or where, but, they keep trying to convince people that its wrong....Well if they intellectual property owners don't even try to stop them from doing it, It must be all good. LOL I even watched nutnfancy's boy say on video, that when we buy copies, It promotes terrorism. I highly doubt it.
@kirimikium You don't think I tried both?! It actually IS some kind of mystery size. Most likely meant to be a set size, but poor quality makes it something......else
Is the thumb stud 1 piece forced into the blade or 2 pieces joined in the middle ?
You forgot the price difference!!! HAHA!
@njadam78 No... it's not. None of my metric or standard keys fit it. Probably just a sloppy made out of spec part.
Buck 882 tarani if you can find one is the best approved clone out there.
@joebob4501 They did, recently. This video was before that....didn't you notice the upload date?
I really enjoyed this video and now must have one of those fake striders. If you know or can figure out any more info on them please let me know jd! I honestly think they are really cool lol I'm gonna have to get one.
what about the lanyard hole on the fake one, it isnt through both sides, is it like that on the real ones?
It's a shame that they don't just go ahead and make a quality knife. From what you've said they are only lacking proper steel/heat treat. They have all the tooling in place, obviously. Use that tooling and draw up some new designs of their own and they would be off and running.
Sorry, I misspelled strider. I collect $100.00 or less tactical folding knives d2 steel and g10 or titanium scales the Chinese made knives from aliexpress are 100% perfect. Ball bearing pivot, lockup,centering fit and finish they are all perfect. Of my 25 or so knives, the Chinese made knives are the best, most perfect knives.
he says its sad that the fake is smoother than the real one. can that be true?
You mentioned blade thickness, but didn't say what the thickness should be.
Is it 4.0 mm or more/less? Which one?
The " female part" of the screw you were talking about is called a ' blind nut' or ' recessed blind nut '
And the " lock face " on a STRIDER is angled and not flat. With one edge higher or lower than the other.
The fake is flat, no angle and 90* to the inner handles. Not a " radius or linear" like you stated.
Also, on the real Strider knife, the blade just beyond the thumb button protrudes more in the notched area than a clone which is flatter and less pronounced.
This point is clearly evident when comparing the two side by side. The difference is probably close to 1/10 mm or so, and shoes more exposed steel in the original than the clone.
The pocket clip looks a bit off to me.
it may be a 5.5mm or another size and a half metric allen key of which you may need to talk to a snap-on man
You hit it right on the head. Just saw this video. Been wanting a Strider for a long time. If the fake can be made and sold for $70-$90 and be so close to the original that Mick Strider had a hard time telling, then the original IS a scam IMO.
Mine has some of the characteristics you show but it is a "for review, from the factory knife". How do you explain that?
Is there any other company in the world that does the nightmare grind? I love the grind but I don't love the price of striders.
hey jdavis just wanted to ask if you could tell me where you got the fake strider i want a high end knife but i can't afford anything like a real one i have to pay for my dorms and classes so i'd settle for a fake one i like how it looks i was looking at aliexpress is that a good place?
and hey just want to thank you for the videos you make they're very interesting and i've learned great sharpening skills from you thinking of buying stropman now thank you keep up the nice work
It seems like from this video the clone is made better than the real thing.
it might be an SAE, metric, and imperial hex keys? anyway thats scary close.
Hey buddy. Just bought a strider on bf, it’ll be my first. Now I’m worrying it’s a fake. It’s an smf, can u help me tell if it’s real? Maybe what size Alan key is that? Maybe some measurements on the thickness of the titanium. I’d really appreciate it buddy. It’s an smf btw
VIDEOS great but if I'm out to buy my FIRST strider I don't have anything to compare it too now Im hesitant on buying I love Amazon but I'm afraid to buy knives from there any way of knowing on amazon if its a fake or real deal thanks------scott
Yo where can I get the clone? Looks much better than the Strider.
Did you try metric and inch allen keys for the pivot?
I don't condone purchasing or supporting the manufacturers of the knock off.....but....to be able to handle a $90 clone that is 85-90% accurate in order to ensure I like the ergonomics enough to spend $500-$700 on an authentic edition is almost worth it for the piece of mind. If we look at it as a try before you buy purpose.....maybe.
may i ask where do you find this clone? i am frequent china but there are rarely cases of high quality knife copies..
Excellent!
I just placed a bid on a strider with that fire logo, but it doesn't have a flying sword logo. Did Strider use to do that or is this knife a clone (i havn't bought it yet)
Who sells the best clones in 2022 ? Thanks 😊
The word "STRIDER" is closer to the thumbstud on the fake as well and the lettering looks bigger.
So I could use a little help here if you have a moment. I have a long time friend who's grandfather passed away and he passed a few of his old stuff down to him and this happen to include a Strider knife. He was actually offering to sell it to me, as he has no real interest in knives and doesn't mean as much to him as some of the other things passed down to him. I was really considering and about to make the deal since he offered it to me for $250 and it's in basically mint condition. I took a look at the details you described here but there is something that seems way off to me, as I'm far from a Strider expert. It does not have the STRIDER or the "flying penis" on the blade at all, but in the finger choil is an engraved signature that reads M. Strider. Has this been done in the past and is this possibly a real Strider? As I said it was passed down and could be quite old. Neither of us know for sure. Thanks for the video man. Thumbs up.
another great vid brother, very interesting.
the Chinese watch these videos and use them to improve on the copy.That's why they get harder to spot
Thanks for this video.
Lord, now I am worried that I just traded my Sebenza for a fake SMF DGG.
Right.......and all of those costs apply here, in an order of magnitude.
Now tell me again why some knife makers are "out of their minds with pricing."
excellent video...thank you!
Where can I buy that clone knife?! It's beautiful!
Are there any legit ddg striders with flamed ti? I really want one but it seems like they're all stonewashed
where can I get one of those knock-offs?
Stop pin diameter - Yours look slightly larger. Maybe like that to adjust your U/D blade play. Clip alignment looks different too. Do you have brick shit houses in the USA?