Consoles are definitely good enough for me and I have a high end PC as well. It all depends on the game, some PC games scale well above the console version and it looks like a night and day difference, but other games I struggle to tell the difference in terms of visuals.
Dragons Dogma 2 is at 30 unless you want to pay $800 for a PS5 Pro and get a wobbly 45-60. The reason I have a high end PC, is the image quality and I want the best possible graphical settings. Yes the consoles can hit 60 but the image quality is usually not that great in those performance modes.
Thank God for Game Pass. People don’t appreciate a good thing until it’s gone. I’m snowed in and finally decided to play Indiana Jones. Used my Microsoft Rewards for Ultimate, downloaded the game and now I’m technically playing it for free.
Got a prebuilt pc over a week ago. I’m perfectly happy with. And the reason is,the availability of games you can’t get on either consoles. I don’t mess with anything. Go with the recommend setting. If it plays looks good I’m good. So there is nothing wrong with prebuilt,folks need to get off their high horse. Some want race car and others are fine a Toyota. Because it gets the job done for them. P.s know this didn’t exactly have and thing to with video. Just comment to something you said
Dragons dogma 2, Farm simulator 25. Not out yet but will be soon Monster hunter wilds will be 30fps and I heard Avowed will also be 30 fps when it's released. That's all I can think of at the moment
Consoles are definitely enough and they're some of the best ever, only letdown by the lack of games. Personally i went to PC due to MS policies i didn't agree with and PC offered me the ability to counter/remove/Fix said policies with Mods.
As a PC gamer, 120fps is the minimum standard for me. I don't mind 60fps for certain games that are emulated but I like to play my games at 120fps or higher. This has been my standard for years now. Not sure about consoles though. I come from the Xbox360 generation as it was my last console.
Consoles are fine. They aren't enough for me though. I like having my own hardware options and options of how I play the game that isn't just 2 modes. Also, I will never sit here and pretend as if 60FPS is a guarantee on the consoles it isn't, but I can always get 60FPS on my PC though.
@@DOC_DARK1985 Yes they can if they can make developers prioritize it as the baseline and it goes up from there. If I have different hardware configurations that would be good. As long as I get 60FPS Ultra settings at 1440P I'm fine. More is better though but 60 is the baseline unless it's a power limited handheld or something.
Consoles are the entryway into gaming and are supposed to be the cheap alternative to rendering graphics so achieving 60fps on console has always been luck of the draw so this current generation has done well on that regard; being on PC for 5 years and haven't gamed under 80 since and even that is a rarity; typically around 100+.
Consoles are cheaper than PC to get into but total cost of usage is not that different from 2025 midrange PC. Subscriptions, expensive games and replacement accessories more double the price of system alone. Consoles also use scaling in almost every game to display picture in 4K - they use 1080p(Series S even 720p) and higher resolution to get there. At the end you still will pay big buck for owning console. Being 5 years on PC you forgot to mention what resolution and games that you are playing. That’s not honest picture of PC gaming.
@@Ornal64 1440p ultrawide/ some ue4 games, some ue5 games. Consoles are designed for the consumer to walk into the store, drop a couple hundred and be on to the races. Pc is much more involved but you will get a much wider experience with and beyond gaming and between my many years on both platforms i can say that even at 1080p on a gaming monitor is far more responsive than any tv/console. Night and day difference but you get what you pay for. Consoles are a toy with two things in mind, cheap gaming and nothing wrong with that.
@@Ornal64 PCs are really good for Spec Nuts like you. Otherwise, not worth the time for casuals who play COD/Fortnite and don’t want to deal with all the cheating.
I really like your content. I dont understand why you won't upgrade to a better graphics card. Just pull the trigger and get it. I don't regret owning a rx 7800 xt.😂
I wanted to not pay for Sony’s ps5 membership this year……apparently they delete accounts for inactivity???? What?!!! To be completely fair, i tried to research and found people saying it happened to them and others saying it doesnt. Regardless, NOPE!! Was level 40 in Helldivers 2 and bought it again on pc. Bought a bunch of steam games this past winter sale…..repurchased a lot of my collection for less than $200!!! Easily could have been close to $1500+ at retail price. Yea man, PC is pretty freaking awesome! Running Helldivers 2 native at max settings on a 4080super. Averaging 62 fps. Image looks SOOOOO much sharper. Next upgrade is the TV. Can only do 120hz at 1080p and 4k at 60ps. It’s a 2017 Sony Tv (Bravia X930e. Really good tv for the time it released. Still looks amazing! But i want higher fps panel now. My monitor is 1440p 144hz tho.
If I remember the lower then low setting was the ray tracing which not too long after digital foundry videos there was an update for the series x that improved the ray tracing
it will be interesting for sure. Can't wait to see how that'd work. Either way I already built a PC that will be better than the next Xbox so it won't change my mind anytime soon but I can't say no definitively given I can't see the future
the XSX from launch was a 1440p upscale to 4k machine, the XSS was. 1080p upscale, the PS5 was also a 1080p and maybe a few 1440p upscale , except when it tried to run games it couldn't at, which point it became a 720p-900p upscale. machine. Now the PS5 Pro caught up to the XSX and is a 1440p upscale machine.
Maybe it’s time to upgrade your RX7600 or your GPU if you want better performance. It’s funny people like to say Walmart PC but Walmart is actually a good place to upgrade. Right now theres a RTX 4070 super I’m eying thats on roll back for $499. Original price $600
I dont think the devs lied per se, I think they're just out of touch. I like Bethesda, but Starfield felt outdated at times, so it wouldn't surprise me if they genuinely felt like 30 fps was ok. I truly believe Ninja Theory was ok with HB2 being 30 fps. I'm not sure what lie you're referring to with Redfall, but they probably did lie...🤷🏿♂️ ...just realized Doc failed his own challenge. 😂
Doc Im tired of all the fake grift'n of bots and bots stay letting guys who no longer part of the bot community grift off there misguided influencer clicks and like button bot passion naive sensitivity 💯
This dude always trying to drag PlayStation into Xbox’s mess. There is no PlayStation studio game at 30fps on the PS5. From day1 to now. What Microsoft and other 3rd party studio does is on them. Talking bout integrity but Keep supporting the lies. This dude. 🤣😂🤣
Tbh arkham knight to me looks ok im not impressed by the grittyness of it. But ima graphics snob i olayed it on xsx and the game look so horrible i just wish it had a mod for 4k resolution and it would be cool but the game itself just bored me
Omfg. Just stop yousing computers to play games at. Its so pathetic. I rather play on an xbox than fucking wirh a PC to play games. But oh... xbox console aint no more. Nice work MS xD Unbeliveble ppl who support MS... I got no words... Buy 4090 or what its name.. 1500 $ for 20 %of the games working with out without freezing and not even working. Pc gamers are a joooooooke! xD Yes to read my text is like playing a game on PC. Bugs everywhere
Dragons Dogma 2 is at 30 unless you want to pay $800 for a PS5 Pro and get a wobbly 45-60. The reason I have a high end PC, is the image quality and I want the best possible graphical settings. Yes the consoles can hit 60 but the image quality is usually not that great in those performance modes.
For me it's the convenience of having all my games in one spot and backwards and forward compatibility for my games and emulation and everything else. Idk too many things to list for me.
This dude always trying to drag PlayStation into Xbox’s mess. There is no PlayStation studio game at 30fps on the PS5. From day1 to now. What Microsoft and other 3rd party studio does is on them. Talking bout integrity but Keep supporting the lies. This dude. 🤣😂🤣
I didn't say PlayStation studio bro. I said in the consoles. PlayStation has games stuck at 30 FPS on their console that's not their fault. Like Gotham. Everything is not an attack on Sony bro
@@DOC_DARK1985 Yet you keep bringing up PlayStation when you’re supposed to be a (Walmart) PeeCee/Xbox guy. You specifically mentioned HellBlade2, and if I recall correctly, Thats an Xbox “exclusive,” that’s NOT on PlayStation. So that’s an XBOX PROBLEM. You said your brother and smooth made videos and you didn’t like your brother’s cause he kept mentioning Xbox. Seems like you can’t make a compelling video either without mentioning PlayStation. Your horrible decisions are yours and yours alone my guy. Stop trying to take Sony down with you.
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Consoles are definitely good enough for me and I have a high end PC as well. It all depends on the game, some PC games scale well above the console version and it looks like a night and day difference, but other games I struggle to tell the difference in terms of visuals.
Same. Yes on my PC there are games that look so much better, but those games are few and far between.
Dragons Dogma 2 is at 30 unless you want to pay $800 for a PS5 Pro and get a wobbly 45-60.
The reason I have a high end PC, is the image quality and I want the best possible graphical settings. Yes the consoles can hit 60 but the image quality is usually not that great in those performance modes.
Thank God for Game Pass. People don’t appreciate a good thing until it’s gone. I’m snowed in and finally decided to play Indiana Jones. Used my Microsoft Rewards for Ultimate, downloaded the game and now I’m technically playing it for free.
Just don't get a pre built 😂.
Eh too late
Got a prebuilt pc over a week ago. I’m perfectly happy with. And the reason is,the availability of games you can’t get on either consoles. I don’t mess with anything. Go with the recommend setting. If it plays looks good I’m good. So there is nothing wrong with prebuilt,folks need to get off their high horse. Some want race car and others are fine a Toyota. Because it gets the job done for them. P.s know this didn’t exactly have and thing to with video. Just comment to something you said
All I know is... "There's Levels To This" - Doc_Dark1985
The reason why you don’t feel frame rate dips on console is because of motion blur and better optimization
Dragons dogma 2, Farm simulator 25. Not out yet but will be soon Monster hunter wilds will be 30fps and I heard Avowed will also be 30 fps when it's released. That's all I can think of at the moment
Consoles are definitely enough and they're some of the best ever, only letdown by the lack of games.
Personally i went to PC due to MS policies i didn't agree with and PC offered me the ability to counter/remove/Fix said policies with Mods.
As a PC gamer, 120fps is the minimum standard for me. I don't mind 60fps for certain games that are emulated but I like to play my games at 120fps or higher. This has been my standard for years now. Not sure about consoles though. I come from the Xbox360 generation as it was my last console.
Consoles are fine. They aren't enough for me though. I like having my own hardware options and options of how I play the game that isn't just 2 modes. Also, I will never sit here and pretend as if 60FPS is a guarantee on the consoles it isn't, but I can always get 60FPS on my PC though.
Fair. Can steam make a console like you would be interested in?
@@DOC_DARK1985 Yes they can if they can make developers prioritize it as the baseline and it goes up from there. If I have different hardware configurations that would be good. As long as I get 60FPS Ultra settings at 1440P I'm fine. More is better though but 60 is the baseline unless it's a power limited handheld or something.
I still game at 1080p, because I doubt I'd be able tell a difference on a 4k display
Oh you would but if you're happy at 1080p stay there.
If the indie market was bigger on consoles, games were cheaper and online access was free, consoles would be in a much better place.
26:11- GET INTO EMULATION ALREADY
Don't worry. He said he is considering getting into it! I asked him on Steam and offered to help him get that setup!
@@DreamyAbaddon wasted oppurnity if he doesn't
Consoles are the entryway into gaming and are supposed to be the cheap alternative to rendering graphics so achieving 60fps on console has always been luck of the draw so this current generation has done well on that regard; being on PC for 5 years and haven't gamed under 80 since and even that is a rarity; typically around 100+.
Consoles are cheaper than PC to get into but total cost of usage is not that different from 2025 midrange PC. Subscriptions, expensive games and replacement accessories more double the price of system alone. Consoles also use scaling in almost every game to display picture in 4K - they use 1080p(Series S even 720p) and higher resolution to get there. At the end you still will pay big buck for owning console. Being 5 years on PC you forgot to mention what resolution and games that you are playing. That’s not honest picture of PC gaming.
@@Ornal64 1440p ultrawide/ some ue4 games, some ue5 games.
Consoles are designed for the consumer to walk into the store, drop a couple hundred and be on to the races. Pc is much more involved but you will get a much wider experience with and beyond gaming and between my many years on both platforms i can say that even at 1080p on a gaming monitor is far more responsive than any tv/console. Night and day difference but you get what you pay for.
Consoles are a toy with two things in mind, cheap gaming and nothing wrong with that.
@@Ornal64 PCs are really good for Spec Nuts like you. Otherwise, not worth the time for casuals who play COD/Fortnite and don’t want to deal with all the cheating.
Indiana Jones running on Low settings but no mention of downloading the "High Texture Pack".
I really like your content. I dont understand why you won't upgrade to a better graphics card. Just pull the trigger and get it. I don't regret owning a rx 7800 xt.😂
I wanted to not pay for Sony’s ps5 membership this year……apparently they delete accounts for inactivity???? What?!!! To be completely fair, i tried to research and found people saying it happened to them and others saying it doesnt. Regardless, NOPE!! Was level 40 in Helldivers 2 and bought it again on pc. Bought a bunch of steam games this past winter sale…..repurchased a lot of my collection for less than $200!!! Easily could have been close to $1500+ at retail price. Yea man, PC is pretty freaking awesome! Running Helldivers 2 native at max settings on a 4080super. Averaging 62 fps. Image looks SOOOOO much sharper. Next upgrade is the TV. Can only do 120hz at 1080p and 4k at 60ps. It’s a 2017 Sony Tv (Bravia X930e. Really good tv for the time it released. Still looks amazing! But i want higher fps panel now. My monitor is 1440p 144hz tho.
MS also erases inactive accounts. Not sure how long it is but they do. It's a few years though. Like 4+ iirc but you may want to look it up
With consoles you get whatever the devs allow you to get, no need to really play with settings.
If I remember the lower then low setting was the ray tracing which not too long after digital foundry videos there was an update for the series x that improved the ray tracing
Welcome to the round table….
Backlogs to max settings out from the guy who criticized remasters that basically do just that......whew! You guys are hilarious 😂
Sleeping dogs still at 30
Dark you need to go ahead and get that 12GB Intel B580
Dark don’t do that go for NVIDIA OR AMD.
It's a good card but id advise putting extra and getting a 16gb card more future proof
@SnoopWog yeah but the B580 is only $250.
What about an Xbox that could also play your steam library, would that win you back?
it will be interesting for sure. Can't wait to see how that'd work. Either way I already built a PC that will be better than the next Xbox so it won't change my mind anytime soon but I can't say no definitively given I can't see the future
God of war doesn’t run at 120fps lol it gets to the 70s at most and usually drops down to 60FPS and below when combat starts
Wait until you upgrade to a 4090 it’ll blow your mind doc you gotta go high and gaming, bro
The reason you hate HDR on PC is because AMD cards cant do it right. If you get a Nvidia card the RTX HDR feature will nail it every single time.
I cant think of any ps5 game that Ive played that's stuck at 30 fps. Most run Native 4k 60
Facts. Gotham night is the only one I know and that's not Sony fault
Upscaled 4K at 60fps. There are almost no Games on PS5/Xbox Series X that run at a True and Native 4K Resolution.
the XSX from launch was a 1440p upscale to 4k machine, the XSS was. 1080p upscale, the PS5 was also a 1080p and maybe a few 1440p upscale , except when it tried to run games it couldn't at, which point it became a 720p-900p upscale. machine. Now the PS5 Pro caught up to the XSX and is a 1440p upscale machine.
A lot of them can’t even hold 60 fps like Final Fantasy XVI and only a few of them can do native 4K 60 fps. 😂🤣
Red Dead II is stuck. RockStar could easily update it and probably will and charge you for a remaster.
Yup HDR on Pc looks washed out unlike on consoles
You don’t feel the dips on console because of VRR, especially on Xbox. PS5 has worse VRR than the Xbox One 😂.
PC has v-sync and G sync ..which are better versions of VRR
Maybe it’s time to upgrade your RX7600 or your GPU if you want better performance. It’s funny people like to say Walmart PC but Walmart is actually a good place to upgrade. Right now theres a RTX 4070 super I’m eying thats on roll back for $499. Original price $600
I dont think the devs lied per se, I think they're just out of touch. I like Bethesda, but Starfield felt outdated at times, so it wouldn't surprise me if they genuinely felt like 30 fps was ok.
I truly believe Ninja Theory was ok with HB2 being 30 fps.
I'm not sure what lie you're referring to with Redfall, but they probably did lie...🤷🏿♂️
...just realized Doc failed his own challenge. 😂
Get a 1440p ultrawide gaming monitor for PC as it will blow away any 4ktv
Doc Im tired of all the fake grift'n of bots and bots stay letting guys who no longer part of the bot community grift off there misguided influencer clicks and like button bot passion naive sensitivity 💯
Indiana Jones is really good. I didn't think I would like it either.
dang that theres levels to this dont hit the same ever since u copped that walmart pc
most pc gamers only have 8gb gpus and the series s has 10gb of shared ram its enough you just need experienced dev teams to optimized right.
This dude always trying to drag PlayStation into Xbox’s mess. There is no PlayStation studio game at 30fps on the PS5. From day1 to now. What Microsoft and other 3rd party studio does is on them. Talking bout integrity but Keep supporting the lies. This dude.
🤣😂🤣
until dawn remake
sit down, shut up
doc somebody who plays video games for a couple of hours is a better gamer than you 😂
also you clearly have no idea what you are doing with a pc
Tbh arkham knight to me looks ok im not impressed by the grittyness of it. But ima graphics snob i olayed it on xsx and the game look so horrible i just wish it had a mod for 4k resolution and it would be cool but the game itself just bored me
Of course the game is stuck at 900p on Xbox lmao
Omfg. Just stop yousing computers to play games at.
Its so pathetic.
I rather play on an xbox than fucking wirh a PC to play games.
But oh... xbox console aint no more.
Nice work MS xD
Unbeliveble ppl who support MS...
I got no words...
Buy 4090 or what its name.. 1500 $ for 20 %of the games working with out without freezing and not even working.
Pc gamers are a joooooooke! xD
Yes to read my text is like playing a game on PC.
Bugs everywhere
There's no way a human wrote this😂😂
Dragons Dogma 2 is at 30 unless you want to pay $800 for a PS5 Pro and get a wobbly 45-60.
The reason I have a high end PC, is the image quality and I want the best possible graphical settings. Yes the consoles can hit 60 but the image quality is usually not that great in those performance modes.
For me it's the convenience of having all my games in one spot and backwards and forward compatibility for my games and emulation and everything else. Idk too many things to list for me.
This dude always trying to drag PlayStation into Xbox’s mess. There is no PlayStation studio game at 30fps on the PS5. From day1 to now. What Microsoft and other 3rd party studio does is on them. Talking bout integrity but Keep supporting the lies. This dude.
🤣😂🤣
I didn't say PlayStation studio bro. I said in the consoles. PlayStation has games stuck at 30 FPS on their console that's not their fault. Like Gotham. Everything is not an attack on Sony bro
@@DOC_DARK1985 Yet you keep bringing up PlayStation when you’re supposed to be a (Walmart) PeeCee/Xbox guy.
You specifically mentioned HellBlade2, and if I recall correctly, Thats an Xbox “exclusive,” that’s NOT on PlayStation. So that’s an XBOX PROBLEM.
You said your brother and smooth made videos and you didn’t like your brother’s cause he kept mentioning Xbox. Seems like you can’t make a compelling video either without mentioning PlayStation.
Your horrible decisions are yours and yours alone my guy. Stop trying to take Sony down with you.