I get a nice sound with my Korg SDD 2000 delay by overloading it ,also I love my Yamaha D5000 delay.They are a real sleeper that create reverb out of delays.
Ascoltando il cuffia, secondo me h8000 suona più grosso, più esteso in frequenza ma anche più "preciso". Pcm80 è più vicino come timbrica a pcm42 ma suona più fine, eclipse suona meno esteso in basso e con alti più duri, è il meno musicale. Non potendo prendere pcm42 prenderei pcm80. In realtà stavo pensando di prendere eclipse in questi giorni ma adesso mi è passata la voglia 😂
In h8000 ed eclipse sento la durezza che mi ha fatto vendere Orville. Ho avuto anche h3000 e, secondo me, ha una morbideza che gli Eventide successivi non hanno
the king might still be the Korg ! Lexicon Vortex has 3d modulation delay very nice, for me the Pcm80 is warmer more 3d than the more transparent Pcm81. Pcm80 is my favourit, Prime Blue preset and adjust for that super delay and massive chorus delay reverb Lexicon sound
@@italoop7850 yes you are right, sorry i was just sharing my 2cents :-) ... imo , the Pcm80 just sounds better weither it's the preamp on board (or the 24bit of the 81 that made it less good) , i don't know.... my point is the delay in that preset "Prime Blue" has that modulating 3dness (or it feels like it does) and has that magic Lexicon
@@smartti1970 Yeah. That PRIME BLUE is the greeting preset on the 80/81. The first one hears when powering on the unit for the first time... and it does it job with its strong signature sound AND the Soft Knob leading to different balance of chorus/delay/reverb. It really shows off the PCM. Now, back to the 42. As you notice the difference in conversion between the 80 and the 81, imagine the 42 with 12 bit converters. That's light years back in time, with all sorts of imperfections, compared to current tech. And the way those old delays worked, with analog filters, analog LFOs whose sample rate was shifted to get pitch modulation and time compression/expansion, analog feedback and what not... That stuff is simply no longer available on DSP based machines. They just can't get that sound. It's like a 50s car and a currente e-car. They won't ever drive and feel the same.
The 8000 is the most digitally sounding to me. The 81 sounded the second closets but the 42 still has something special to it.
Nice video
Very well done video!! I really liked the eclipse !
I get a nice sound with my Korg SDD 2000 delay by overloading it ,also I love my Yamaha D5000 delay.They are a real sleeper that create reverb out of delays.
Old converters (Korg) and sample rate modulation DO actually create that reverb_like space. Hard to replicate for DSP based machines !
Same here with SDD-3000 rack… wish I’d bought more of them … 😏
pcm42 hands down. still ubeatable!
The 81 was more accurate but I preferred the Eclipse overall. Really need some good headphones to tell too much of a difference overall though.
I have a similar feeling. Thanks for posting!
Ascoltando il cuffia, secondo me h8000 suona più grosso, più esteso in frequenza ma anche più "preciso". Pcm80 è più vicino come timbrica a pcm42 ma suona più fine, eclipse suona meno esteso in basso e con alti più duri, è il meno musicale. Non potendo prendere pcm42 prenderei pcm80. In realtà stavo pensando di prendere eclipse in questi giorni ma adesso mi è passata la voglia 😂
Il PCM81 ci va molto vicino.... ma anche Eclipse non scherza. Ascolta bene, con cuffie serie.
In h8000 ed eclipse sento la durezza che mi ha fatto vendere Orville. Ho avuto anche h3000 e, secondo me, ha una morbideza che gli Eventide successivi non hanno
To my ears the best
1 eventide h8000 fw
2 eclipse
3 pcm 81
4 pcm 42
Italo ma i delay e parlo solo di delay dell mpx 1 e g2 reggono il confronto? Quello del mio g2 mi piace moltissimo.
Belli... MA il PCM42 è un'altro universo!
the king might still be the Korg ! Lexicon Vortex has 3d modulation delay very nice, for me the Pcm80 is warmer more 3d than the more transparent Pcm81. Pcm80 is my favourit, Prime Blue preset and adjust for that super delay and massive chorus delay reverb Lexicon sound
Different things.... not what this video is about!
@@italoop7850 yes you are right, sorry i was just sharing my 2cents :-) ... imo , the Pcm80 just sounds better weither it's the preamp on board (or the 24bit of the 81 that made it less good) , i don't know.... my point is the delay in that preset "Prime Blue" has that modulating 3dness (or it feels like it does) and has that magic Lexicon
@@smartti1970 Yeah. That PRIME BLUE is the greeting preset on the 80/81. The first one hears when powering on the unit for the first time... and it does it job with its strong signature sound AND the Soft Knob leading to different balance of chorus/delay/reverb. It really shows off the PCM.
Now, back to the 42. As you notice the difference in conversion between the 80 and the 81, imagine the 42 with 12 bit converters. That's light years back in time, with all sorts of imperfections, compared to current tech. And the way those old delays worked, with analog filters, analog LFOs whose sample rate was shifted to get pitch modulation and time compression/expansion, analog feedback and what not... That stuff is simply no longer available on DSP based machines. They just can't get that sound. It's like a 50s car and a currente e-car. They won't ever drive and feel the same.