eBay finger-chopping pocket chainsaw
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- There are two distinct sides to this product. One is the extremely good value for the components alone - including two seemingly decent batteries and a matching charger. The other is the fact it's a competent little chainsaw with absolutely no interlock to reduce the risk of accidental operation. And that's not a great thing for chainsaws as they have a voracious appetite for human flesh.
The unit does at least come with a small shield to reduce the risk of injury due to kickback (When the blade suddenly bites and throws the unit back forcibly.)
Other gardener-style reviews of these common units rave about how long the battery lasts, and how effortlessly they cut through branches. It certainly made short work of fresh and old dried out branches when I tried it.
Internally it's very simple, just like other modern cordless tools. A fairly rugged battery connector, common pulse width modulation speed control and a motor with a thermal trip/fuse attached to the side. (Possible failure point?)
The gearbox is made of plastic with steel gears and is very minimalist. The motor cog drives directly onto a larger cogwheel with a long sleeve bearing. That larger cog has a keyed shaft for the chain drive sprocket, which is held on by a wire circlip/snap-ring.
As with most other chainsaws the chain rides in a bar, which is a sandwich of two metal plates spaced apart to guide tabs on the inside of the chain. That bar can be moved forwards or backwards to tension the chain correctly at a point where it's not so tight that it binds on the guide bar, and not so loose that it can skip out.
Full size chainsaws have a simple oil wicking system that keeps the chain lubricated with a very sticky oil. This one has no lubricator and is not supplied with oil. I added some around the chain and bar before using it.
The charger's LED indicator is a very crude current sensing circuit that will indicate that the pack is at least near full charge. It appears to be using the lower voltage of the red LED to extinguish the higher voltage green one.
If you get one of these units I strongly recommend removing the battery when not in use, as an accidental operation of the trigger will cause serious wounds. Definitely make sure the battery is removed before adjusting the chain. Keep it away from kids and make sure you attach the anti-kickback guard. This unit will require extra care in use as its size and convenience belie its dangers.
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A friend of mine was given one of these for last Christmas. He used it once and said it was useless, when i had a look at it, it had been sent with the chain fitted backwards. once fitted properly i was quite impressed with what it could cut through.
Was probably that was so it couldn't fully tear apart I'll the other shopping outside the box
He's probably the person you don't want to have this if he couldn't see the chain was backwards.
I pulled out my old electric chainsaw once and it didn't cut for shit until I realized that someone (likely me) put the chain on backwards.
Who hasn't cursed their blunt drill bits that won't drill into butter only to find that they've got the drill rotation set to "unscrew".
@@petehiggins33 definitely not me! That’s really a dumb thing to do.
"Angel of Chain" would be an awesome name for a metal album.
Yes, "Battery Metal" xD
And zombie chopper would be a good punk album name
@@benholroyd5221 Zombie Chopper is the band dummy.
Couldn’t agree more. Need more metal 🎸⚡️⚡️⚡️
Im so starting a band "angel of chain"
When I first saw this, my reaction was -WOW! the Pound Shop has upped its game. It was just a chain reaction.
Lol
I just love how Clive explains everything with pictures so everybody,even people who do not understand electronics can get a grasp how things operate
The biggest safety issue with this is that it's designed to be used with one hand - normal chainsaws have two handles and are of a size and weight that you need to keep both hands on them while using it. With this one it will be tempting to hold the thing you're cutting with your spare hand (as Clive did). You're going to lose a finger sooner or later doing that.
This is why chainsaw gloves have protection on the back of the left hand.
@@meta0269 that more so if your hand slips or you get kick back the chain would hit the back of your hand, this is a hang over from when we didn't have chain guards on the top of chainsaws (normally now built in to the chain brake).
This device is missing basically every safety feature a chainsaw has to have, including a trigger interlock (or throttle interlock in petrol terms), 2 handles, a chain brake, a chain catcher, a rear hand guard.... I spose it kind of has a front had guard but no where to put your hand.... And no inertia brake either..... Tbh as a chainsaw user I would not consider this as a good idea!
@@derekwright2388 I am also trained chainsaw user and can see how its completely different to a petrol saw. It can be used two handed if desired. The motor brakes the chain very effectively and does not have the torque to produce kickback, it just stalls. For basic crosscuts doing pruning its a great tool. Newer models are available with an interlock.
Top handled petrol saws are designed for one handed use. These fit a similar role, pruning etc.
@@WineScrounger but only to be used up a tree, and still has all the other safety items, my biggest worry with this is the lack of an interlock
I can attest to the ferocity of chainsaws from the experience I had the first winter I was cutting fire wood. I had just felled a dead tree, and when I was stepping back the still-moving chain brushed against my pant leg. I was fortunate on two counts that day: First I was uninjured, and second, I didn't encounter a single person on the way home, thus sparing me from trying to explain what I was doing out in the woods in the middle of winter with no pants.
You still had a chainsaw. A pantsless man holding a running chainsaw in the dead of winter will find that he can go through his day answering very few to zero questions.
@@capturedflame that is so true! Honestly, I get tired of that happening so often!! After a long day chainsawing various things, sometimes I just want to go home! I’m tired and hungry ! No I do not want to dance the night away!
Finally a budget AvE unboxing saw. This is going to be fun!
He didn't even analyzed the composition of the plastic and metals... Amateur!
Now Clive has something to open future boxes :-)
A treat especial to be sure
Yes, I also saw the unboxing. I am wrestling with the temptation of buying one myself.
He cut the branches and the voice in my head went, "TIME!!"🤣🤣
I can sense AvE shedding a tear right now. He's proud of his big bear 🐻
He's proud of the lack of safety
The way the tool was framed in the thumbnail I thought it was an ave video at first
Sounds like you should probably eat some broken glass.
@@technoman9000 What?
@@brad885 Not to be operated by fuckwits.
The ornamental chain brake is absolutely glorious.
This video is filling a big BOLTR hole in my life right now. Thank you.
loved the appearance of a genuine AvE swing press.
While the content is comparable to classic AvE, i love the thoroughness of Clive so much more! This is educational as well as entertaining.
The only downside of this chainsaw I can see is that once you’ve cut of eight of your fingers, it will be difficult to chop off the remaining two.
Could that be a safety feature?
lol.
I agree with what you're saying. To be that boring person though, cutting 8 fingers would leave the average person with zero.
@@Christopher_S Because a thumb isn’t a finger?
@@Conservator. Indeed.
@@Christopher_S On the off chance that you have finger(s) remaining after losing eight, Inigo Montoya would like to speak with you.
Damn that gives me the heebie-jeebies just the lack of safety alone and seeing it work.
Its like the ripper from fallout
I ripped one just looking at it
Wouldn't be too hard for a creative, motivated individual to turn it into an AR Bayonet... 😎
Finally, my fantasies of Lumberjack Clive have come to life. The beard is so well-suited.
Those gloves look neatly designed to snag on the chain and pull your wrist right into it.
Gloves when operating any kind of saw are risky. If you're going to wear gloves around a saw, please make sure they are cut-resistant and/or specifically designed for working with the sort of saw you are using. These included gloves are a hazard.
Or you could use chainsaw specific gloves which are designed to jam up the mechanism before your digits are shredded.
this thing doesnt even have a safety brake, youre just supposed to never have an accident 🙂
@@MeFreeBee Can confirm this, had a family member have an incident with chainshaw gloves and yeah, glove clogged the thing up before it could do damage.
@@MeFreeBee
"Or you could wear chainsaw specific gloves..." ~ MeFreeBee
Yeah, he should have said that instead of, "...cut resistant, and specifically designed for working with the sort of saw you are using."
Yeah, don't worry about that. The bones in your wrist usually stop the chain doing any more damage... hopefully! ;)
I didn’t even know I _needed_ a mini chain saw! But I want this now.
Also, slightly off subject but I do love listening to Big Clive. Such a restful and relaxing voice.
And it fits in the glove box for random road rage defense
Like 'stone-paper-scissors' - they pull a wooden bat, chainsaw beats wooden bat. 👊😗
You'd have to be a special kind of lunatic to continue roadraging once the other person has brought the microchainsaw out.
True story, I was with some friends leaving a Yankee game in the Bronx Ny maybee 20 years ago and my buddy that was driving was driving like an D bag and cut this guy off
The guy in the other car jumped out with a bat so my friend grabbed his bat then the guy grabbed a huge knife so my friend grabbed his giant knife
Once the guy saw my friends knife he popped the truck and pulled out a gun so I decided to jump out and push stupid friend back into the car
After that everyone got in their cars and drove away like nothing happened
I wish there where dash cams back then and also mini chainsaws
RIP AND TEAR!
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"We have a charger that's very hard to open."
Why do I see Clive in my mind doing the natural D&D thing and "use chainsaw on charger"?
"Taahm!!"
But of course. The solution is soooo close at hand!
I came here to make the same comment. Really missed the opportunity to use the saw to open its own battery charger. Would have been much more entertaining to use the Chainsaw of Knowledge.
Same here!
Ye cannot get ye flask...
I bought one of these a couple of months ago - one of the most useful things I've bought for the garden. I paid a bit extra to get a model with a safety button on it as well as a chain guard. The batteries which came with mine have different connectors from those in the video, but they are indeed Makita compatible.
Wow, nice that this is an option!
@@BestHakase For any petrol chainsaw I've ever seen it's a standard feature because of legislative safety requirements. Not having a safety interlock is a big oversight in a product that will, as Clive hinted at, eat you alive.
@@cericat yeah... having a safety feature as optional seems dodgy.
@@Kila-Innova very. Back in high school on a farm safety day we had a double amputee turn up to talk chainsaw safety. Yes, he lost both his arms to a chainsaw accident. I try to be careful with power tools, I like having all my appendages where they were when I was born.
Admit it BC, you just wanted to sing "I'm a lumberjack.." Nice teardown, with the noted possible missing safety bits.
We call that circular ring that retains the drive sprocket a “Jesus Christ Ring”. They often spring off the removal tool and fly somewhere, perhaps into another dimension, causing the verbal “Jesus Christ” reaction.😉
Yep, we call them Jesus clips because you are always saying, 'Jesus' as you are looking for it when it pings off.
Ah yeah, on the average good quality RC cars of the 80's and 90's there was about 30 circlips and e-clips and no young one invests in proper tools... I think I've lost about the entire RC cars weight in e-clips over the years...
First time hearing that term. Very apropos
Is this derived from the Jesus nut on a helicopter?
My family bought me one of these as a prank present. It turned out to be simply awesome. Very handy garden tool!
I open these chargers (and notebook chargers as well) with gentle but firm strikes with a rubber mallet.
The two halves magically separate even when glued/thermo welded.
Magic
option A: gasoline on a cloth, rub the sides continuosly for a minute or so and pop
option B: use carpenter pliers on the angles, pressing the pliers and the PSU with one handful, crack!!! mercyless... watch out to not pinch your palm... it doesn't work the same with electrician snippers, they slip
@@redoverdrivetheunstoppable4637 I'll need to try these as well, thanks.
I've had tons of success opening them up by putting them in a bench vise and cranking down until you hear a "Pop". Works every time and with zero damage, so they can be super glued closed again.
@@motosk8er2 vice is good, or if there is no hammer in reach, try a bigger screwdriver handle. Hold onto the tip and use it to hammer on the seam, the glue will crack.
Those batteries bear a strong resemblance to the ones for my Black and Decker tools, right down to the colors and text on the label. They are 20V at 1.5Ah. Maybe produced by the same folks.
That's what I was thinking when I first seen the batteries, many of these cheap lifi-po-4 battery tools seem to like using black and decker style batteries
Those look just like my Makita batteries, at least in overall design. The colors are Black and Decker-ish, though.
Not just me then. Only just got round to this video and as soon as i saw the batteries I recognised them instantly. They are identical to the Black & Decker drill I'm repairing except these are rated at 18v. The only difference is the battery has no protection board and 2 extra contacts in the middle. Starting to wonder if B&D are now rebranding generic tools.
@@cyberraxx9268 B-I-N-G-O Same batteries in my B&D Weed Eater that is about 12 years old. Just replaced 1 cell with a new one from a battery pack on sale at Family Dollar.
Also the same batteries in a box of dead hp laptop batteries I salvaged the cells from for building battery packs
I once bought my nephew an educational Lego set which could be used to make working models of twenty different everyday things - a car gearbox, a crane, a food mixer, a lawnmower, and so on. One of them was a chainsaw. It worked pretty well, but Lego chain is not sharp - or I would never have given it to a little boy.
Lol isn't that what Uncles are for though? Give potentially dangerous toys to the kids, because the parents won't. 🤣 plus added bonus of siblings getting mad at you. Haha
Wow man that sounds really neat, I’ll keep an eye out for it.
@@gnic76 😂 great comment! I'm a grandad and fit that description.
Lego chain isn’t sharp? I am scandalized!
I have to say, that thing seems reasonably well put together. A simple, no nonsense design, but with enough thought and care put into it to actually work. Seen worse from way more reputable brands.
Except for missing obvious safety features, and the minimal cost savings causing problems with the battery pack.
"Mom, I want a Bosch Nanoblade Easycut 12"
"We have a Nanoblade at home..."
Nanoblade at home...
I love when he says "one moment please" so polite and sometimes posh
And after the cut there's a pile of shrapnel sitting on the table, with the device's innards exposed and reverse engineered.
Goes over to Ralf's and starts chopping up his barrel to emotionally torment him even further after the Whisky/SodaStream 'event'. 😂
0:53 That was a much needed belly laugh! As usual Big Clive with the super dry humor I love!
I must say for a cheap no-name tool the build quality seems to be not too bad. I have seen worse, even from "reputable" tool brands.
A safety interlock would be a good addition, of course. But I think one could easily add that by putting a second switch on the back of the grip, that cuts off the battery when you are not gripping it.
Yeah I thought the same, quality was quite reasonable, especially inside the chainsaw itself. I was expecting a nightmarish quality.
@@CheapCheerful When Clive said ''plastic gears '' i thought mmmm, short life span but its just a plastic shroud with metal gears inside . As long a you dont push it to hard it looks a useful tool in the right hands , not literally )))
@@UserUser-ww2nj You could reinforce it even further with a CNC'd billet shroud lol
@@MiGujack3 True if you had a CNC and the know how to do it . I wonder what type of plastic it is . If its nylon it should last a fair while and at the price so long as you do not abuse it then its good value at about $50 direct from China . Depends how much you would use it of course
Should be an interesting addition to a battle bot.
I got one off wish, it was stamped "Makita" :D it did a good job cleaning out the bamboo in my yard. Was scary when placing it down on the ground because you could bump the power button.
Good old Wish. Interestingly I had an opportunity to compare a real Makita impact wrench with the exact same Wish knock-off. It didn’t have the same speed or power but on the face of it, it wasn’t bad for £30 compared to the £250 Makita.
I have zero need of use for any kind of chainsaw. yet, I chose to watch this and now I want one.
I would say it's dangerous without the trigger safety, but every chainsaw is dangerous.
You are NOT telling me something I don't already know... perhaps a post-midnight visit might make the point clearer.
Sincerely,
Ed Gein
(AKA: Freddie Kreuger)
p.s.: Welcome to my nightmare (on Elm Street).
@G.A. MAKIN ....The O.G. "Norman Bates"....
@@GAMakin Don Dokken is slightly more scary though.
Everything is dangerous (explosive, according to AvE) if you use it wrong enough 🤭
I wont use a chainsaw unless it is 100% safe. Do they sell this with a plastic, fur covered chain?
I love how this is now a category of tools. Bosch made them first, AvE made them famous, and now all kinds of folks have them and make them I guess?
i wanted the bosch one as it looked cool but not any good for anything large so got the stihl one instead.
Best way to do an unboxing.
This isn't a micro chainsaw like the Bosch though. It uses actual chainsaw chain.
And Makita made these things (with like 4-6" bars) way back in the NiCad days, probably 20 years ago or more at this point. Model UC120DWD, first cordless battery powered chainsaw on the market.
All the latest hype has stemmed from the Milwaukee M12 hatchet though.
@@jaywelker5566 > Milwaukee M12 hatchet
I don't need one. But I want one.
And Johnny Q 90 converted one of these Bosch mini chainsaws into a nitro powered one.
Another great video Clive. Though when you were trying to get the gearbox out I was screaming at the screen "Take the circlip off Clive!!" But then I have taken apart a few electric chainsaws over the years. They are all basically the same inside but usually there's a chain brake and oil pump in there too.
I wish you would do a similar teardown of one of the Aldi 20/40V Activ Energy tools, battery and charger.
I also was shouting at the screen...
I used one to take down a whole tree and cut it into small enough pieces to go in my burn bin. The trunk was about 4 inches in diameter and it was around 12ft tall. It worked well but the thermal fuse started kicking in quite regularly once I'd been using it for a while, which was quite frustrating. It takes about 30 seconds for it to reset itself but to be fair, I was asking a lot of it. I only bought it for that one tree but it was cheap enough to justify the purchase. Once I started I was unsure if it would even last for the whole job but it's still going strong. I didn't have chain oil but some general purpose machine oil worked well enough. It's not the safest of tools, but I still have all 11 fingers.
Amazon has almost the same exact thing in the US. The only difference is there's a trigger guard over the trigger and a chain guard
I feel like this is a solution looking for a problem. That being said, definitely a cool tool.
It’s physically easier than using snips to clean up a garden but not as precise. Also the size means you’ll be cutting things you don’t want to.
I think these work great. I've use the Milwaukee one and it's great. I can limb small/medium trees(I don't use it on all trees) and hold on the the branch. Which makes it faster then other ways. And helps keeps the mess clean.
its just a considerably more dangerous and generally worse alternative to something like a black and decker alligator which doesnt have any risk of kickback and can cut much bigger stuff if needed
I have a really big globe willow tree, but the actual branches on it are mostly really small. They're too small to be particularly useful for burning, and there's never anywhere near enough to justify getting a dumpster to just drop entire branches in, so I have to cut them down small enough to fit in the garbage bin. Using a fullsize chainsaw to chop them up to go in the bin would make no sense for 2-4" branches - I'd either cut more dirt than wood and destroy my chain, or spend more time fussing with setting it against a brace than cutting. A two-handed reciprocating has the same problem. A one-handed reciprocating saw allows you to just hold the branch with one hand and cut directly into the bin with the other, but even with a good pruning blade made specifically to cut big chips through fresh wood, it's a lot slower than a chainsaw. With my M12 FUEL Hatchet, I can make 3-4 cuts before the first cut's finished using my M12 FUEL Hackzall. Considering the sheer number of cuts I'm making, it's the difference between finishing up by lunch and finishing up by dinner. Since almost every branch I ever need to cut is within its cutting capacity, it makes more sense for me to spend less on a smaller lightweight tool that does the job I need better than a larger, heavier tool designed for a much bigger task that'll be much more frustrating to use for what I need. If I did find a need to cut a larger branch, it uses standard 3/8" pitch chains, so I can stick a longer bar on in a pinch.
Those fingers aren't going to amputate themselves!
I like how the circuit diagram switches effortlessly between little rectangles and little zigzags to represent resistors.
And I look forward to Elon Musk adding these as "hands options" for his new Tesla Bot. :-)
It's representing which resistors are American and which ones are European
What, a "not a chainsaw" to complement your "not a flanethrower"?
@@gabotron94 resistors science and resistors freedom.
Wow! This is a perfect "persuasion" tool that any Soprano's type guy would want in his toolkit! Thanks for the demo, Clive! :=)
I think my main concern with this would be how it would cope after its first use, wood shavings and resin cloggin up a supposedly cheap chain is incredibly dangerous
Its weak spot is the lack of automatic lube in the right place.
And the lack of a long-reach handle ;)
Probably works ok for opening boxes though 😉
I'm sure that gearbox isn't all that either lol
A two stroke chainsaw gets clogged up also. If you're cutting messy wood, you have to stop every once in a while and clean the sprocket area up, and retension the chain when you're done.
@@millomweb yes, no auto lubrication will lead to premature bar and sprocket death...but you can tell that plastic gears turning metal parts is also a fatal design decision for longevity. Someone disregarded the class where they covered Moh's scale of hardness. It must be the same guy who worked for Ford and designed the power window motors, where a brass worm gear turns a nylon cog...
Completely agree with you on this one, with a safety and maybe a bit of redesign here and there this could be a very handy tool! Even as it is, if you know what you're doing (and I hope you do if you're buying a chainsaw) and some extra care to always remove the battery, this is pretty impressive for a clearly mass produced, cheap tool.
I've had one of these cheapie chinese chainsaws for a few months now and I've found that although it cuts well, it seems to cut out after a few minutes of use. I initially thought it might be a crappy battery pack, as if I left it for a few mins, it seemed to recover and work for a few secs then cut out again. Maybe its the thermal switch cutting in? Probably. I didn't oil it so, yeah, its probably that.
The lack of a safety switch is a bit of a worry as, well, its a frickin chainsaw! Maybe a followup vid where a switch can be modded in. Even something like a flick up toggle missile switch so that the safety switch itself is physically protected from unwanted turn ons.
As an aside, Lidl had something very similar to this in last week, as part of their 20V Parkside range, where the batteries and chargers are sold separately. Julian Illet seemed to rave about Parkside's heat gun (and I've got one too, its very good).
I'm just waiting on either Lidl or Aldi getting in a small cordless circular saw. You can get chinesiums on Ebay and Ali but they are kinda pricey right now. About £80 or so.
If the chain is too taught in the bar it will put a lot of strain on the motor and wear the bar. Some chainsaw lubricant will probably help too. One other possibility is a bad contact in the cutout causing it to heat itself.
@Gazr Gazr These are actually not turning at gas chainsaw speeds so are a little more forgiving. But yeah, they do need lubed some. One of my chainsaws is big enough and old enough that it uses a one quart pump oil can to lube the chain thru quarter inch copper tubing.
Thanks CLive. After seeing this video, I went to Banggood and Ebay. Both sell identical units and Ebay is cheaper. I just ordered the one from Ebay for around $28.00 with tax and free shipping. I have a bunch of heavy pruning to do and this looks like a work saver. I totally agree, you gotta be very careful using this finger remover. Cheers.
At $28 (assuming the cells are actually somewhere near 2000mAh) this would be worth getting for the cells alone. The last time I bought individual 18650s they were $4-$5 each, the cells I bought were 2500-3000mAh. I would think these aren't as high quality (the cells I bought were either Sony or Samsung, I bought some of both) but if you are going to use them in the $2-$3 USB charging boxes with a simple charging circuit board and the necessary connections they would probably be fine. Even the Shen Zhen Crap Land 18650s with low capacity are $2-$3 each, I suspect since the chainsaw actually worked that the cells in this kit are better than the Shen Zhen cheap 18650s.
As for the battery charger, instead of the red and green LEDs being the same time during charging. The red LED has a lower forward voltage which clamps the voltage also feeding green LED (which requires a higher forward voltage) and therefore turns it off. This ‘trick’ gives a more of a decisive red vs green indication.
I updated that in the description afterwards. It is the posher "forward voltage" version.
@@BigClive I keep forgetting to read the description!! Thanks bigclive!!
In the US, you can take the cells in for recycling at most home improvement and battery stores.
And have them back again next time you order "brand new & genuine 8000mAh 18650" bats from Ali/bang etc.. 👌😂😩
I was wondering if it wouldn't be worth adding in a small microswitch in the handle to act as a deadmans safety.
Safety mods I love this community
NO NO NO WIRED DIRECT USE THE SWITCH FOR SOMETHING ELSE AND REMOVE THE BAT TO SHUT HER DOWN .10 FINGERS JUST GET IN THE WAY A LOBSTER HAS NO WORRIES . SAFETY SALLY.
Why corrupt such a pure design with safety add-ons? You don't put a guard on a bulldozer blade!
@@77thTrombone one day when your a man you will understand why you wear the cup why you always have 2 points of contact and until then wear a damn condom
@@GREATLORDPOOH whoosh / sigh
While the roar of concepts going over people's heads is always exciting, it reminds me how many people spend their lives in the troughs.
I enjoy AVE channel and am glad you do also. Your component knowledge takes me way back in life. I can't say I miss those days. However, I still enjoy component electronics. Thank You.
Clive seems to be feeling very loved up given then sheer number of hearts he's dishing out.
Not for you though!
Gifted one of these, a slightly more improved model, different brand...I am quite impressed having tons of experience with gas saws. Does good for yard and camp. Basically don't be an idiot with this one be safe!
I bought a similar saw, but it does have the safety interlock, a thumb button. Otherwise it looks identical.
The thermal cutoff resets after a minute or two. It runs well up to about a 3-inch branch. It will cut normal boards, but bogs down on anything heavy. The chains stay sharp for a good while, and are readily available on Amazon. I also picked up an extra battery on eBay. Very handy for trimming bushes or small limbs. Much lighter and easier to handle than my 20” gas saw.
I bought a similar version a few months ago and I love it. Mine has a spring loaded guard above the chain. It's great for those tree trimming jobs that are just a bit too large for my "Loppers". I'll bet I have "sold" several of them to friends after demonstrating their use. Now I don't have to get out the gas powered saws for small jobs. And, being a one handed tool is just an added benefit. The longest that I have used mine was for about 10 minutes of more or less continuous cutting. It didn't run out of battery in that period of time.
Clive you can do a scene from the Shinning of Jack Nicholson cut the door open on Rolf.
"Heeeeere's..." *rrrrrrrrrrrrt* "...."f*ck hang on a minute" *rrrrrt rrrrrr rrrrrrt* "Clive!"
@@jimsvideos7201 One moment, please!
@@jimsvideos7201 Uhm, wouldn't that be: "Heeeeere's..." rrrrrrrrrrrrt "...."One moment, pleeease" rrrrrt rrrrrr rrrrrrt "Clive!"
He use an axe, not a chainsaw
@@newgnu5779
This is the 2021 version.
Bought one for my dad. It's had plenty of use clearing some overgrown garden tanglel weed, and conifer . It's quite happy. It has required the removal of shrubbery as the chain has sucked flexible sticks in.
It's proven itself more hardy than the Bosch mini chainsaw, and is a more useable size.
After using chainsaws for the last 45 years...
I would really like to see a built in oil system for this saw...
not necessarily an auto oiler, but a container with say a primer bulb you could squeeze (say with the tip of your holding-hand's thumb) and direct oil onto the chain...
just like the early chainsaws I used had a push-button oiler!
A kick-back chain guard would be superfluous...the kick back would be minimal...and your won't be holding this anywhere any other part of your body if you know what's good for you....
Great tip about the reversible screwdriver, I hadn't realised that, no mention in the instructions!
Thought you'd burned that text into the bench for a hot second at the start 😂
Your such a worldly man Clive! are you not? Nothing is beyond your scope of expertise.
I was going to buy a Sawzall but this looks like alot more fun!
I bought a Sawzall instead because this looked too dangerous. And the Sawzall can be used with other blades. One of the scariest days of my life was loaning a gas chainsaw to a neighbor.
Fifty years ago, I was using gas operated chain saws. There was little in safety features included. I can't recall any. Later on they included "chain brakes"; I never used a saw that included these so I have no idea how they worked. We always used those saws like we would handle rattle snakes, viz: very carefully.
Chain brake is typically a band brake around the clutch drum.
I'm wondering if this could be turned into a poor mans chain mortiser with a little creative frame building, those are handy tools and the size of the bar looks nearly perfect.
a machine vise is a handy tool to open wall-wart boxes that have been glued together, it takes some trial and error to learn how much you should squeeze, but your ears tell when the glue breaks enough to make prying open easier.
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I bought a similar sized (black not orange) chainsaw from amazon. Fitted the chain and tensioned it (not my first rodeo), hit the trigger and it ran backwards, along with a lot of sparks from inside the case. Returned it and bought this identical orange unit. I was initially a bit disappointed as the black one had a proper plastic carry case for it, while the orange doesnt have anything other than the cardboard box it came in. But what a great little tool. I was seriously impressed with how capable this little tool is. It made short work of stuff out in the garden that I really thought it would struggle with. There is a big clump of pampas grass down the bottom of the garden with an tree in the centre that needed cutting back. The stuff was the size of an average mans wrist and it went through it really easily. The only negative was the pampas grass that got in the way as that stuff basically gets pulled in and jammed up between the chain and case. But for the wood? awesome.
Edit:- I forgot to add, thanks for doing this video, it was nice to see the info that it is unlikely to burn the house down. Appreciated.
Wow dangerous, I must buy one for each of my kids this Christmas 🎄
Thank you so much, Clive-I have one of these that I use for tree branch removal on a ladder as it is so light. after about 10 large branches it would cut out until it cooled.I always suspected it was a thermal cut-out.
I want to thank you for pointing this out to other people who want to buy one. It is much more convenient than lugging around a hand saw.
Got to get me one of them, uh yep, have someone I want to give it too, and that is the only reason to buy this miserable thing...damn, that is dangerous! I love it!
And why has Clive playing with this dangerous thing fired off the Monty Python doing the LumberJack song in my head?
After seeing your video I've just bought a couple of these for my grandkids (3 and 7) as an early surprise birthday present. They're going to have so much fun chopping things up! Like scissors but better!
Good grief, full size chain saws are dangerous enough, but at least when i did my city and guilds horticulture ( many years ago ), even then if you were employed by somebody you had to have a licence to use a chainsaw, but there was nothing to stop you going out as an individual, buying one and doing yourself great personnal injury. But the big boys have anti-vibration guards and anti-kick back guards. I only once, in about 90° F heat, did i not wear the safety jacket and at the top of a tree, watched the chainsaw kickback, not get stopped and only stopped when it chewed into my jumper. I realised then that you can wipe sweat off, but you cannot just pick up an arm and re-attach it. This was in about 1979.
Children love to take things apart. This saw loves to take children apart. A perfect Christmas present.
What do you mean its hard to open the charger? You've got a chainsaw right there at the table. It's just a question on how hard it will be too reassemble.
Is big Clive the emperor of mankind? He's got chainswords, hammers if ultimate truth and fizzy whisky. Legend
_"I'm going to oil this thing"_
Oh Clive.
This is a terrifying implement. Good thing you gutted it before it hurt anyone.
I put these things back together afterwards.
I know. Thought it was funny.
This would be a neat little tool for the small branches that get in the way. Though i would definitely want to add some kind of basic switch before the battery to give extra safety against the switch on if i would buy it.
To get into stubborn wall warts I always just use a hacksaw to cut into the seam at one or 2 corners then use a flat blade to pry it from there. Often super cheap stuff made of ABS like that is acetone welded, not glued so they can be pretty solid. They all give up the goods eventually though once you cut enough corners.
Ave don't do much tool teardowns anymore thank you for filling the spot
His interests drift just like mine.
He’s been very involved with his chickens of late.
My heartbeat rises every time you put your hand on the chain :D
I have absolutely no need for one of these. I have nothing I'd expect to use it on if I had one. But somehow I just feel that I've got to get one and see if I can find something that needs chopping up. I think there must be an undocumented subliminal feature in Clive's voice that hypnotises people into wanting technical toys. He could make a fortune by adding the right affiliate links.
I've locked the credit card in a drawer and will try to avoid accidental late night online purchases made after consuming alcohol.
Yes! You've hit on the answer to something that's been puzzling me for years! I could resist if I wanted to, just one more leettle treasure first, waffe r thin Safety. Can one get the bank to timelock credit cards I wonder?
I bought a nearly identical one of these via eBay last year. Very impressed with it's performance until the battery died. Exactly the same inside the battery pack except there were two protection mosfets. Replaced the faulty battery and it's back in use again. Very pleased with it's performance. It even has a second button on the grip for protection - have to push both to make it work. Still got all my fingers.
It looks cheap on the outside but the electronics and motor/gearbox actually seem pretty decent
What is the actual measured capacity of the battery by the way? They're stamped 2000mAh but as we all know that's not always accurate..
I would suspect the 2000 mAh rating to be correct since if they had decided to fake it they would have used a highly inflated value.
how can you not like the enthusiasm and knowledge this guy have - THANK YOU
"Dispose of it in a controlled manner"
Is a controlled manner where you overcharge the battery, then start hammering a nail into the pack like in that video you made a few weeks ago? ;)
It's my way of saying "do your own thang" so I don't pander to the Karens.
I just replaced the battery in my phone as the old one was bulging and pushing the back off. This was exactly my disposal technique... I took it into to the garden and banged a 4-inch screw straight through it several times. Annoyingly, I was most disappointed by the result, just a few pathetic wisps of smoke. Can I get my money back? 😀
So it's "controlled" in the same sense as "controlled substances"?
I bought something similar. Use it in place of my gas powered arborist chain saw for trimming side branches before using the gas to cut off the main branch. Tool paid for itself in the first outing. Great units!
This is a warning in waiting as to why chainsaws have at least 2-3 safeties in them. People make mistakes all the time and with this that means hospital if they make it (you injure yourself with this you'll most likely need stitches at minimum). If I got it I'd probably use it as a "don't do this you flipping idiot" item in show-and-tell all while keeping and using those packs for projects. Those look useful and fairly safe. The case alone is worth some cash saved, the balance board is almost icing.
I'd say it's more a cell protection board. It lacks proper balancing just like the prominent brands.
And sadly if you cut off your finger theres no hope of re-attaching it since it isn't a clean cut. And a normal modern chainsaw has roughly 5 to 10 safety devices this has zero.
A great video - explains a lot of the mystery of battery packs
Will the hammer of ultimate knowledge from now be partnered with the new dangersaw of ultimate knowledge for extreme cases?
tbh that cut 1000x better than I was expecting, I honestly wouldn't mind one
Looks to me the sensible thing to do would be remove the chainsaw parts, leaving the motor/gearbox and make a different kind of tool out of it. Does the output bearing look strong enough to make a mini angle grinder out of it?
Could a fog generator and fan be mounted on it to make a fog gun? should be plenty of juice in the battery. A couple of high-powered LEDs would light up the fog stream nicely.
Ooh. Find that "holographic" disco light you featured a while back to light up the fog. Should be trippy as hell.
They probably do an angle grinder in the same series.
I don't think an angle grinder/fog machine/disco light combo is necessarily a good idea... But now I kinda want one
@@samuelmellars7855 Probably not, and me too...
I brought the Makita compatible version off Bangemgood. Seriously impressed in particular when I added the roller tipped bar and give the chain a touch up. The thermal cutout works maybe a bit well under heavy load but keeps the smoke in the overvolted motor in nicely. And Put the Guard on you wacker unless you want the name of Lefty :D
The only safety interlock on this thing, is the one between your ears.
A power pack full of metal, that would be a Metallica Battery pack then!
A wonderfully dangerous contraption. What's not to love?
"makita type clones"
REEEE THEY'RE CLEARLY PARKSIDE RIPOFFS
Black & Decker knock-off - change my mind.
I use this as a personal trimmer, I'm a bushcrafty guy and sometimes my bush needs a trim especially after a rough winter, this does the perfect job of taming my manly vines, just be careful around the scrotal region! I'd give it a 4/7
A BigClave episode! Now we have a chainsaw of knowledge!
Awesome episode!
Bought one recently that looks very similar - but has carry case and the unit has a safety button on the side as well as the trigger and a guard along the top of the chain. Used it for cutting down bits of tree that came down in storms the other year; very impressed with it (so far)
I've got a Parkside 12volt. I take it with me when I go for a walk after high winds. Useful for clearing footpaths.
I bought a 6" model from BG with 2 similar 21V batteries. I use it to trim my tree branches. It easily cuts 4" diameter branches. Like you said... Wear thick gloves when using.
Thanks for the analysis, and circuit diagrams. I have a similar machine but with a trigger guard button. I have used it for about an hour, on one of its batteries, to cut a 1km long overgrown hedge. It works very well and with the humping of the cut material, is a good work-out..! The only annoying thing is that it tends to bind up in the kerf, when cutting larger wood of over 5 inches diameter. . Oh, and the chain goes slack twice for every battery used, so take the spanner and screwdriver with you to the workplace.
Looking at those batteries they maybe roughly the size of the old Ever Ready No 8 3v battery which is hard to find nowadays. I once found a discarded vaping device with such a battery, I charged it an taped a few pennies on to make the length up, changed the bulb in my vintage No 8 battery torch from a 2.5v bulb to a 4.8v because the lithium battery would have blown the original bulb, hey presto I have a rechargeable No 8 battery, it's amazing what you can salvage from other things an repurpose them for something else, once again Clive an excellent informative video giving excellent technical information.