This vod makes me so sad 😢 Tango, I, for one, watch Hermitcraft because watching other people truly nerd out and get excited about a project fills me with joy. The fact that people's comments have dimmed your flame is painful to see. There are hundreds of people playing vanilla Minecraft. There is only one Tango Tech, and I want to follow your spark wherever it leads, be it custom models or anything else. Please don't listen to the killjoys; they're loud, but they're not all of us. I was delighted to see how excited you were in your last episode, and I hope you can find a way to shake off the comments and ignore them; they Don't Get It.
Love this comment - Tango what brings you joy brings us joy - you are the one playing and few mealy mouthed typers shouldn’t deter you from your vision.
Tango, I'm a lurker by trade so I don't usually comment, but I wanted to let you know that I love how creative the custom models allow you to be. Sure, I don't like to *play* minecraft with custom models, but watching the atmosphere you hermits can achieve with yours, like the mailbags, Scar's hats, the custom paintings, the fun food items, is so incredibly enjoyable for me to watch. Do what makes you happy. I'll be here regardless of how far your game strays from traditional "vanilla", because mostly I love your wacky shenanigans and unfiltered joy as you play on hermitcraft with your friends.
And this is coming from a person who likes vanilla. My husband and i weren't thrilled. But if removing it and the comments got him that down i think i would rather watch a happy Tango with the conveyor belts
Tango you might never see this, but if you somehow did i thought you might find it super cute that ive been watching you for 10 years and my now 10 yr old son on his own accord started watching you and as soon as he mentioned yours and other hermits names the biggest and proudest smile came over my face, and his face lit up when he realised i already know everything about what he wants to tell me. "How do you know about the hermits Dad!?" "Ah my son, the Hermits were around even before you were little one!" ❤😂😂
I’m just going to throw my 2 cents out there on your frustration topics. Take it for what it’s worth. 1) The red stone deal. I’m not sure if anyone making the “fleeced” comments has actually watched you over the seasons. It’s evident to me that you don’t care about the diamonds. You care about the playing Minecraft. Decked out and the Deep Frost Citadel were master pieces constructed with virtually no diamond funding. 2) The conveyor belts. Hermitcraft has long been using retexturing packs for hats, snacks, etc. Impulse made moving mob skins for Scarland. I’m sure every time it’s done, there are folks on both sides of the aisle. I just hope that you will make the decision based on what keeps you excited. When you debuted the conveyor belts, the only thing that mattered to me was seeing your excitement. The Hermit’s excitement in what they’re doing is what makes it worth watching. It prevents burn-out and it’s the real working component of the server. My husband and I love watching all the Hermits and have picked up so many phrases from you all. 😂 If you knew my husband, you’d know this is special. Keep being excited Tango. It’s infectious and such a highlight for people.
@@4203105 that may be true for you but not all players play like you. Not all hermits are looking purely at diamond profits for the deal. I think it was an excellent trade. Tango gets all the red stone he loves to play with and still gets half the diamonds he doesn’t care about. Perfect win for him and Wels. Profits aren’t the only valuable item.
@@4203105amazing that you children love being so negative in comments ...think growing up with the internet has let you all become the most boring rude people
@@alopry11 Amazing that you children think creators are your friends and you have to defend them from the tiniest bit of criticism. Reality check: They don't know you and they are grown men and women who can handle it. Maybe once you grow up you'll learn these things.
Twenty-seven Hermits to watch, and custom-model haters decide to pick on one of the few who uses them regularly. If people want to see vanilla-only detailing, there are plenty of other videos out there. Scar's train and Joel's buildings come to mind. I'm happy to see so much support in the comments here, although I know it probably won't get through to the ones who were complaining in the first place. Personally, I love seeing what can be done with custom models and sounds--it's part of what led me to love HC!
I'd like to preface this by saying I'm only 16 mins into the video.. That being said, I'm fairly new to watching anything hermitcraft, but anyone who watches Tango AT ALL knows that his passion for creating the best most unique Redstone contraptions and builds in general. Who cares about the diamonds at this point, we are here for tangifcated Redstone and happiness. Anyone who says otherwise, I don't think is actually a fan and is just a troll
i didnt read any comments on the video but when he said that people were commenting that, i facepalmed so hard, like??? seriously?? diamonds? unbelievable what people worry about
People tend to forget that every single hermit is roleplaying, and they've known each other long enough to make humorous content even unscripted. Diamonds aren't really the point for any of them, at all. It's all for the fun of it.
15:50 I think custom models are in the spirit of Minecraft and of Hermitcraft. It's just an artistic lift. Decked out used them for items and it was amazing, we have custom sounds people love, the permits and stamps, even pearls bag. They completely lift vanilla Minecraft to a new level.
Hermitcraft may not be a pure vanilla server these days. but you guys are really good about making sure that nothing you introduce or do trivializes GAMEPLAY (like doc duping sand or using free cam to find ore or whatever), which i think is the important bit. I dont think a lot of viewers who think it should be pure vanilla understand what theyre asking for. and i doubt they were watching back before stuff like voicemod lol
Its still vanilla completely, I dont understand why people nitpick about like one or 2 quality of life mods. The gameplay is what matters. Like the voice mod is just simply a requirement if you want to play on an SMP. Otherwise you have to usw game chat or set up a discord call or just mime (grian and iskall with the boat lol). The thing that really annoys me is that the same people complaining about the custom music discs and such are often ones who have like a world eater or tunnel bore in their world. Cause you know what DOES massively affect gameplay? Duping....
@@andrewbloom7694 because vanilla means completely unmodded. I personally am for hermitcraft being as modded as they want it to be, but I am also for people using the correct terminology and not saying it's vanilla when it is clearly modded.
@@kiratwo4u my wording was unclear. I intended those to be examples of lines the hermits won't cross in the name of keeping things more or less "vanilla". I don't actually think freecam was a problem with anyone in particular anyways. I think it was more of a hypothetical thing
He used to say he was "not a builder" too. One comment I remember said something like "If Tango ever says he's not a lizard person, I'll check for a tail".
@@dbseamz he literally said he wasn't a builder in the ep where he made the steampunk workshop this season, the lizard person comment is so valid lmaoooooo
34:45 Sir Scar, Czar of Star Wars, 1st of his Meme: sadly: The chest monster ate my paperwork. I know it's in there, somewhere, just not exactly sure where" I'm crying
I use to be against the custom models thinking you should just play modded but now I love them because sometimes I want to add flair to my vanilla game. Love Scar's hats, everything you did for Decked Out, Grian's painting and the many more great things they have been used for I can't name. I have been playing since early alpha and love that now I can bring into vanilla minecraft visuals that use to be the realm of mods without changing the core of Vanilla.
My honest opinion about the costum models is that- i dont like them, but i have come to exept them. When tango first introduce the cards for decked out 2 he was very awere that not everyone are going to be happy with it, he said something like 'i know it isnt very mincrafty and i dont care, this looks cool and this is how i want it to be'. Ever since that i learned to accsept tango for how he is. And hey, i can always watch bdubs, gem, pearl and other people work their magic with interiors and push the vanila textures to their limits, every hermit offer something different and as a viewer i can only pick and choose which one i am watching
To people upset about the Wels profit split- ITS FAKE MONEY. ITS NOT REAL. IT’S AN ARBITRARY INCENTIVE FOR FUN SHOPS. I think people forget that at the end of the day the end goal of all the players on Hermitcraft is ENTERTAINMENT, not to win. Tango gets to make all the automated redstone he wants and make a cool factory, and Wels doesn’t lose out on a huge amount of “profit” for the season. And since Wels isn’t spending all his time scrounging diamonds- guess what! He has time to do more entertaining stuff! I didn’t even CONSIDER people would be ragging on that deal, it works out for everyone involved.
The fact that people are saying he got fleeced when it's literally the standard deal people have been making, even Doc is making it and he's the last person who would let himself get fleeced... why do they forget the shops are for convenience, not actually simulating capitalism??
I didnt see the vision at first when Tango showed the custom art for Decked Out 2, but you know what i didnt do? Moan about it and make him feel bad about something he was excited about. Trust the process, enjoy the ride. The hermits are being playful and sociable and experimental in such a fun way this season, to complain because they're not having fun your way is childish and selfish
I'm only like fifteen minutes into the video but TANGO if people don't get it, that's a THEM issue. Even if you WERE wanting the moolah, we both know that a complete redstone shop would make bank, not even counting the creative vision that you've so recently proven to be completely awesome in the oldest sense of the word. I haven't been following for long but I've seen some of your things over the years from other Hermits' POVs and its obvious that you bend your considerable brain and imagination towards everything you've made up your mind about. I don't understand quite what your vision is just yet, but I'll admire anything and everything that you do.
The ecstatic of how the water look to move the item is ugly though. In the end they probably hide it behind wall or trap door. I like Tango idea, i don't understand why people mad about it.
@@johnrodgers8457 of course it's obvious and stupid, just like criticizing Tango for using a model he enjoys. When you are stressed from negative views sometimes the obvious escapes you
I love the conveyor belts, it's a very creative idea with the water streams, and seems to work incredibly well & look amazing. I'm surprised people don't like it, I'd be surprised if they weren't the minority. Your manipulation of (mostly) vanilla Minecraft is part of your appeal. It's like criticising your amazing dungeon door, or the fact that crowns & embers weren't vanilla looking anymore.
I love the custom models and audio. I think it’s one of the best things about your channel. There’s other hermits who do great redstone things without the art and audio but your so good at that stuff and it makes you unique. I love seeing the blend of your custom ideas and the base game.
Man, I wish I could build on the Nether roof in Bedrock. Etho's froglight farm is great. I built one in a treasure bastion that I took over, and it's also very productive, but it took a fair bit of time to set up. As for the custom models, the only complaint I have is that I can't do that as easily in Bedrock. It's fun to see what you all manage to do... and really, that tree prank from season 8 is still top tier shenaniganry in my book, so keep it coming!
I think I need to comment more 😂 I’d say the majority of your viewers love the custom models, it’s just we don’t always comment, the small minority will always be loud. But do what makes you happy man. We all love what you’re doing.
I'm here to watch you enjoy yourself and explore what's possible in this game (and others)! The custom models add a nice aesthetic, a little extra flair to things, but they're not some massive game-changing thing. As for the QOL stuff, I think some of those are pretty much essential, just based on the amount of time you spend playing this game. If people really want to see vanilla Minecraft, they can just rewatch older seasons. Edit: It is absolutely 'nip it in the bud'. And it most likely did come from gardening (there's a thing you do with roses where you cut off all but one of the new buds when they're really small so you just get one flower, but it grows much bigger because all the energy that would have gone to those other buds goes to that one bud instead; it gives you a really big, beautiful rose).
Do the conveyor belts. Because at the end of the day you have to do what makes you happy and not what makes a handful of people who complain about everything unhappy. Like there are a ton of people who don't like the fact that you guys use custom data packs and mods and it's silly you're improving the game and making it more fun for yourself and that's all that really matters
Hey Tango! Long-time lurker and, first-time commenter! I must admit that watching your video - I was pulling my hair out because of the Wels deal - but ultimately came to the conclusion that the deal was secondary to the prospect of a fully Tangofied Redstone shop! Because as we all know - a Tango who is fully immersed and fully creatively invested in what he's doing, is what is the best for the Hermitraft server and for your peace of mind as a creator - which is what we're all here for! P.S. For extra context, I'm obsessed with the conveyor belts - I honestly can't wait for how all these small, Tango details will transform your factory into something that we haven't seen before! Which is why we click on your videos in the first place!
At the risk of sounding supportive, I love the conveyor concept. I was racking my brain wondering how you were going to get functioning conveyors in minecraft and you pulled off yet another feat of half magic, half science. Your videos are an inspiration, don't let naysayers get you down!
Hey Tango! Screw the diamonds, what you’re doing will be groundbreaking!! I love that you’re making it in your steampunky style…. I am imagining lots of fancy red lights!! You’re making your own redstone shopping district 🔥 Have a fantastic holiday! ❤
To back up what others have been saying, Hermitcraft is about the Hermits first and foremost. What Hermits do should reflect the desires and creativity of every Hermit. What we love about Hermitcraft and what makes it so different to other SMPs is that Hermitcraft feels like a piece of the internet that still feels human. You guys treat Hermitcraft the way any server should be and that's an openhanded road of potential, with plenty of room to experiment with datapacks and vanilla assets. We're not the Hermits. We're not the ones who have to decide how to make Hermitcraft fun. We're not the ones who have control (nor should we). Do what it is you actually want to do and bring your imagination to life however you and the other hermits please. Its your server, your place to hang out with friends, you do you. The audience can simply sit and enjoy what the result is and if they don't like it, hey, its one less viewer who never was going to contribute anyways. Anyone who reads this needs to remember that content creation is fundamentally about artistic expression and the ability to share what one enjoys to the world at large. It must come from the heart of the artist, not from the ramblings of the crowd.
Ever since the naked blaze rod run, I've thought the blaze head would be perfect as ambient sound wherever there are pipes, with the steampunk theme. And hearing the wither projectile, combine that alternating with the blaze on a clock and you have a steam engine.
I wanna say regarding the conveyor belt custom models. Throwing it back to when you first introduced the custom sliding door for DO2, all honesty I hated it because it wasn't vanilla, but by the time the game debuted, it was already so iconic and I loved it. Same will go for the conveyors. Pretty much everyone will either love them or grow to love them.
Tango you can't please everyone Most of us who have been watching skizz tell him the same thing We enjoy watching you for you and what you create. If people are really that unhappy let them go into Minecraft and make their own things Don't ever change or second guess yourself 😊
Aww Tango, please always remember that the commenters that just don't get it...are kids. I mean literally...9 year old kids. The rest of us get it and if it makes you giggle, it's probably gonna make us giggle too. I am adamantly pro giggle.
I generally don't really like all the custom textures... with every texture it gets less and less vanilla.. but in the end I'm NOT on the server and that is the way I would play minecraft.. you and all the other hermits are playing and creating so much amazing stuff and entertainment. I really think you should play minecraft however you want to!
Tango, if you wanted to keep the conveyer belt feel without the custom items, you could push the aligned items across blue ice with carpet or bottom slabs on top. The belt would not be animated, but it would be fully vanilla. You might have to have mid-belt item pushers or reconfigure to have more corners. You could use either hidden water streams or piston pushers.
My thoughts on the custom models is that they aren't for me, but that does not matter. You are the one that is in your base everyday and have to live with seeing what is going on in your base. If you dont like your base, you arent going to want to spend time there. Look at what happened to Iskall last season. He hated the way his base was going for a long time, and admitted that it was a factor in his not wanting to play. It is your base. You can do what you want to make it look how you like. In the end it is entirely your choice.
Absolutely agree with you as far as the redstone shop, permits, and the like. I can't wait to see your design for the shop, I think the fun part is gonna be seeing how you set it up with everything in one place, and it's definitely cooler to be able to sell them all
For me, I love the concept you have for the belts, it is definitely how I, and probably most people, would have done it. It's just the art that's the issue, especially the background. Once you fix that I guarantee 90% of people will be fine with it and actually love it.
I totally get Etho and the Snow humor, as a Canadian we've all been there and it's always funny even when I happens to you. But animals and people who have very little experience on sown is always the funniest
Prefacing this with it doesnt make enough of a difference for me, and I'd prefer Tango do what he want, but I find there's a line with custom models, and for me that is decorative blocks like (unfortunately for the conversation) the conveyers. I think custom hats and bundles and music disks add a lot of flavour within minecraft, but I think fundamentally minecraft builds is about making something out of the tools provided. I think of things like the "chair" that are stairs with signs on each side, or the planters that are minecarts with flowers or crops in. The sort of ingenuity of it all would be reduced if you just instead had a custom model for a chair or planter. I also wasn't a fan in season 8 when Xisuma made the derpcoin blocks, but didn't mind derp coins themselves. Cos at what point do you just build the whole build, assign it a customer model, and paste that over just a tonne of dirt.
Tango constantly saying "Scar's got this, he's doing great," and then the redstone session with him later... you can't plan that kind of contrast-based comedy 😂
The whole Wels thing, at the end of the day, you're happy about owning all the redstone. That's what matters. And who gives AF if people don't like the belts, it's diet Create and you love Create. Too many people are Vanilla purists and they frankly, can eat an eggplant
I think the issue is more the clashing high-res textures. They don't need to be that detailed, and making them that detailed doesn't look great in Minecraft. Edit: Nvm, he discussed that later in the stream. As long as the art is cleaned, I'm game.
In response to the controversy over the conveyor belts: maybe you could do slime block piston launchers to slide over ice paths? I think that would look more steam-punk, having machinery clunking along and the items sliding around.
I was about to comment this, glad I checked first. I thought it might be nice to also have trapdoors that open to release camp fire smoke to add to the effect
I really liked the tricky solution to the disappearing belts. I'm super stoked to see how your factory turns out, and I think every one wins since you're making it all. Bummed to hear that the comments have got you down. Thanks for doing what you do - looking forward to the next episode!
I'm not too bothered by the conveyor belt model as it's not even functional. It still has a modded feeling to it and I have to wonder what an actual conveyor belt would look like, built in vanilla. So something like a piston feed tape going around the storage room, either with slabs and full blocks, cauldrons, or honey and slime blocks. It'd be a lot more work, but it could be pretty fun.
In terms of the bee sounds I think it might matter how you're listening to the game. I was listening to this video through my computer's speakers and I couldn't hear the buzzing at all. Even if I turned it up and held my ear right to the speaker. I plugged my headphones in the test it and suddenly the sound was super obvious even though they're pretty crappy headphones. So maybe some speakers/headphones just can't make that particular pitch or play that sound super quietly or something. Also yeah some people may keep their block sounds turned down.
55:42 a soul sand bubble column can launch entities upward several blocks, he could just put a hopper minecart halfway on top of a hopper positioned one block to the side and launch the item up through the bottom of the minecart, which would then get pushed/pulled into the regular hopper and thus into the mailbox.
@3:00:00 I am also okay with that. Found Etho in decked out 1 if you can believe it. Watched some.... okay a lot of his content. Dude is really clever and he makes me laugh. Y'alls interactions in decked out 2 were my favorite part of the streams besides the redstone, and I must say it's the same here. I am currently making a very similar build in my solo world to what you're making with the factory. Mine is way uglier and more spaghetti but they are exactly the same. Don't look at it. Haha. Looking forward to stea.... I mean getting inspiration from your factory to fix some of the less optically pleasing parts of my redstone.
Maybe on a more economy focused server the "fleeced" comments would've been correct but this is a friendly server where you guys are constantly doing nice things for each other for free or almost free. Besides, every hermit seems to end up with multiple stacks of diamond blocks by the end of the season. I don't think any of the Hermits genuinely care that much about how many diamonds their shops generate, it's literally just a catalyst for plots involving the economy and the permit office.
Agree! Generate that factory white noise which one has to yell over when they do a walk though. Throw in a few good 'thunk' and 'clink' noises, etc. Perfect!
Always remember the people that complain play Minecraft for free and have no accolades to their name. You've come a long way and have suffered throughout many Vanilla playthroughs, it's more than fine to spice things up. Also those commenters are just jealous cause they don't know how to change textures 😂. Love all that you and the hermits put out, number one smp for a reason, keep it up!
The custom models and stuff are great when they're purely cosmetic. If I can download the map later and everything looks and works great even without the data pack, great! It's when it starts being vital to the experience (looking at you decked out 2) that it irks me.
aslong as tango sees the sky in every episode this season i dont care what he does. enjoy being among the hermits tango you deserve it more than anyone after building Decked Out2.
If you still don't get ethos sorting system, just think of the chest as the item filter, the hoppers leading into test items against the chest, if they don't go in, they return to the minecart.
43:30 Ya know, it's pretty crazy there are people so harped on about it. Like these things have been used on hermitcraft for years at this point, and like they're purely visual (or audio, in some cases), so I don't think it should be that big of a deal. It's adds a lot more fun to these things, right?
re: the mob music, the iron golem head feels like it would make an excellent noise in the background of the factory. It almost sounds like a metal press or something!
15:50 Im personally not a huge fan of the conveyor belt model, it feels too moded. Id like to see piston feed tapes used, although I wouldn't mind if some of the blocks like slime/ honey blocks had their textures changed. That way it still feels "Minecrafty" while keeping the same aesthetic. I also recommend only running the pistons when a player is inside the factory too reduce lag.
Suggestion for the layout of the redstone corner: Redstone Torch Repeater Comparator (these go together thematically for me) Dropper Dispenser Piston Sticky piston Observer Then continue with whatever is next. I think this is the same amount of space required, but could be wrong. Also don't forget you can always extend the platform by a block or 2 to give you a little more space. I would probably do so here. Looking awesome man, can't wait to see how it all comes together!
I get the resistance to the conveyors because of its similarities to existing mods. But I love that the *function* is 100% vanilla driven and only the visual is from a mod. It still fits the feel of Hermitcraft while being totally Tango. I think to ditch them would be a huge, huge loss. The vanilla mechanics that drive them are what makes them so amazing. Please don’t lose them.
My opinion on custom models and data packs comes down to the fact that I enjoy trying to use Minecraft's limitations to still make an interesting build. In my own worlds, bringing in someone else's art in place of my own creativity defeats the purpose of that. I've never had a problem with what you've done with the custom models, because like you say it isn't taking it to the extreme, it's just a cool touch that helps bring your vision to life. And on top of that, you're super involved with creating the models, so it's not like you're stealing someone else's ideas; it's just a different medium for your own creativity, and it really brings life and a unique style to your builds
Until the bee buzzing was discussed, I couldn’t hear anything. But listening closely in between the dialog I could hear a faint buzzing. And then Tango increased the volume. I was getting kinda scared!
Man, people always gotta drop a hot deuce on fun, I dont know why people hate fun so much. Id like to see the fully tricked out factory, but do what ya want.
When I first started playing Minecraft my first thought after learning you could put colored glass on a beacon beam to color it was. I wonder if you could use tinted glass to hide the beam. I am still disappointed to this day.
with respect to the minecraft purists, this is your vision your builds, you gameplay, do what makes you happy, and what represents your vision best. They can love or hate it, but that's for them to decide and live with. Chin up me ol'muka. Also, is the the beauty and freedom of Minecraft as both a game and a tool not to bring your imagination and creativity to life? When did that stop being the message?
Tango vods have become my background entertainment for quite some time and they never disappoint.
Ikrrrr addicted since deckedout
Long vods to sleep to or work
yep, been that since DO1, its amazing
minecraft vods to code along with
Same!
This vod makes me so sad 😢 Tango, I, for one, watch Hermitcraft because watching other people truly nerd out and get excited about a project fills me with joy. The fact that people's comments have dimmed your flame is painful to see. There are hundreds of people playing vanilla Minecraft. There is only one Tango Tech, and I want to follow your spark wherever it leads, be it custom models or anything else. Please don't listen to the killjoys; they're loud, but they're not all of us. I was delighted to see how excited you were in your last episode, and I hope you can find a way to shake off the comments and ignore them; they Don't Get It.
Nicely worded!
Love this comment - Tango what brings you joy brings us joy - you are the one playing and few mealy mouthed typers shouldn’t deter you from your vision.
I agree!
Tango, I'm a lurker by trade so I don't usually comment, but I wanted to let you know that I love how creative the custom models allow you to be. Sure, I don't like to *play* minecraft with custom models, but watching the atmosphere you hermits can achieve with yours, like the mailbags, Scar's hats, the custom paintings, the fun food items, is so incredibly enjoyable for me to watch. Do what makes you happy. I'll be here regardless of how far your game strays from traditional "vanilla", because mostly I love your wacky shenanigans and unfiltered joy as you play on hermitcraft with your friends.
The custom models mostly just feel like a texture pack given how they can only be reskins of other items, so it still feels vanilla-y
Yeah, I feel that the key thing here (for me, at least) is that it's purely cosmetical
Very well put!
I think that he should do it because then we get to watch happy Tango. Who wants to watch sad Tango....
And this is coming from a person who likes vanilla. My husband and i weren't thrilled. But if removing it and the comments got him that down i think i would rather watch a happy Tango with the conveyor belts
Tango you might never see this, but if you somehow did i thought you might find it super cute that ive been watching you for 10 years and my now 10 yr old son on his own accord started watching you and as soon as he mentioned yours and other hermits names the biggest and proudest smile came over my face, and his face lit up when he realised i already know everything about what he wants to tell me. "How do you know about the hermits Dad!?"
"Ah my son, the Hermits were around even before you were little one!" ❤😂😂
Oh that is the most adorable thing ever!
I’m just going to throw my 2 cents out there on your frustration topics. Take it for what it’s worth.
1) The red stone deal. I’m not sure if anyone making the “fleeced” comments has actually watched you over the seasons. It’s evident to me that you don’t care about the diamonds. You care about the playing Minecraft. Decked out and the Deep Frost Citadel were master pieces constructed with virtually no diamond funding.
2) The conveyor belts. Hermitcraft has long been using retexturing packs for hats, snacks, etc. Impulse made moving mob skins for Scarland. I’m sure every time it’s done, there are folks on both sides of the aisle. I just hope that you will make the decision based on what keeps you excited. When you debuted the conveyor belts, the only thing that mattered to me was seeing your excitement. The Hermit’s excitement in what they’re doing is what makes it worth watching. It prevents burn-out and it’s the real working component of the server.
My husband and I love watching all the Hermits and have picked up so many phrases from you all. 😂 If you knew my husband, you’d know this is special. Keep being excited Tango. It’s infectious and such a highlight for people.
The redstone deal was still disappointing. The haggling is half the fun of the permits.
@@4203105 that may be true for you but not all players play like you. Not all hermits are looking purely at diamond profits for the deal. I think it was an excellent trade. Tango gets all the red stone he loves to play with and still gets half the diamonds he doesn’t care about. Perfect win for him and Wels. Profits aren’t the only valuable item.
@@4203105 besides, if the haggling is what you like, there are 26 more Hermits and a possible 161 more trades to look out for. 🤷♀️
@@4203105amazing that you children love being so negative in comments ...think growing up with the internet has let you all become the most boring rude people
@@alopry11 Amazing that you children think creators are your friends and you have to defend them from the tiniest bit of criticism. Reality check: They don't know you and they are grown men and women who can handle it.
Maybe once you grow up you'll learn these things.
The conveyor belts were cool. I'm with the "Do what makes you happy" group.
Pearls warden symphony actually feels like it could be the background hum of a factory
The Post Office team inspecting Scar's redstone was one of the most wholesome things I've ever seen
Twenty-seven Hermits to watch, and custom-model haters decide to pick on one of the few who uses them regularly. If people want to see vanilla-only detailing, there are plenty of other videos out there. Scar's train and Joel's buildings come to mind.
I'm happy to see so much support in the comments here, although I know it probably won't get through to the ones who were complaining in the first place. Personally, I love seeing what can be done with custom models and sounds--it's part of what led me to love HC!
I really loved grian and scar so aggressively defending the models, warmed my lil heart
I'd like to preface this by saying I'm only 16 mins into the video..
That being said, I'm fairly new to watching anything hermitcraft, but anyone who watches Tango AT ALL knows that his passion for creating the best most unique Redstone contraptions and builds in general. Who cares about the diamonds at this point, we are here for tangifcated Redstone and happiness. Anyone who says otherwise, I don't think is actually a fan and is just a troll
PREACH!!
i didnt read any comments on the video but when he said that people were commenting that, i facepalmed so hard, like??? seriously?? diamonds? unbelievable what people worry about
People tend to forget that every single hermit is roleplaying, and they've known each other long enough to make humorous content even unscripted. Diamonds aren't really the point for any of them, at all. It's all for the fun of it.
Also... it's a game with friends. It's not real economics
I love the conveyer belts. They don't change the game mechanics. It's just a fun illusion.
15:50 I think custom models are in the spirit of Minecraft and of Hermitcraft. It's just an artistic lift. Decked out used them for items and it was amazing, we have custom sounds people love, the permits and stamps, even pearls bag. They completely lift vanilla Minecraft to a new level.
So true.
I am aware now I've watched more that Grian and Scar said exactly this
Hermitcraft may not be a pure vanilla server these days. but you guys are really good about making sure that nothing you introduce or do trivializes GAMEPLAY (like doc duping sand or using free cam to find ore or whatever), which i think is the important bit.
I dont think a lot of viewers who think it should be pure vanilla understand what theyre asking for. and i doubt they were watching back before stuff like voicemod lol
I’d still call it vanilla. 100%. What have they actually changed? Nothing but some visuals.
Its still vanilla completely, I dont understand why people nitpick about like one or 2 quality of life mods. The gameplay is what matters. Like the voice mod is just simply a requirement if you want to play on an SMP. Otherwise you have to usw game chat or set up a discord call or just mime (grian and iskall with the boat lol).
The thing that really annoys me is that the same people complaining about the custom music discs and such are often ones who have like a world eater or tunnel bore in their world. Cause you know what DOES massively affect gameplay? Duping....
Using free cam to find ores is vanilla?!?
@@andrewbloom7694 because vanilla means completely unmodded.
I personally am for hermitcraft being as modded as they want it to be, but I am also for people using the correct terminology and not saying it's vanilla when it is clearly modded.
@@kiratwo4u my wording was unclear. I intended those to be examples of lines the hermits won't cross in the name of keeping things more or less "vanilla".
I don't actually think freecam was a problem with anyone in particular anyways. I think it was more of a hypothetical thing
Scar very confidently placing that bell down next to the floating comparator is one of the funniest things ive seen in a while
1:06:10 that's some mighty fine imposter syndrome you got there. You can't accomplish something like DO2 without being good at redstone
He used to say he was "not a builder" too. One comment I remember said something like "If Tango ever says he's not a lizard person, I'll check for a tail".
@@dbseamz he literally said he wasn't a builder in the ep where he made the steampunk workshop this season, the lizard person comment is so valid lmaoooooo
34:45 Sir Scar, Czar of Star Wars, 1st of his Meme: sadly: The chest monster ate my paperwork. I know it's in there, somewhere, just not exactly sure where"
I'm crying
I use to be against the custom models thinking you should just play modded but now I love them because sometimes I want to add flair to my vanilla game. Love Scar's hats, everything you did for Decked Out, Grian's painting and the many more great things they have been used for I can't name. I have been playing since early alpha and love that now I can bring into vanilla minecraft visuals that use to be the realm of mods without changing the core of Vanilla.
My honest opinion about the costum models is that- i dont like them, but i have come to exept them. When tango first introduce the cards for decked out 2 he was very awere that not everyone are going to be happy with it, he said something like 'i know it isnt very mincrafty and i dont care, this looks cool and this is how i want it to be'. Ever since that i learned to accsept tango for how he is. And hey, i can always watch bdubs, gem, pearl and other people work their magic with interiors and push the vanila textures to their limits, every hermit offer something different and as a viewer i can only pick and choose which one i am watching
2:18:20. Thank you, Etho! My brain tripped when Scar said “Butt”. It’s totally a gardening phrase! ‘Nip it in the bud.’
To people upset about the Wels profit split- ITS FAKE MONEY. ITS NOT REAL. IT’S AN ARBITRARY INCENTIVE FOR FUN SHOPS. I think people forget that at the end of the day the end goal of all the players on Hermitcraft is ENTERTAINMENT, not to win. Tango gets to make all the automated redstone he wants and make a cool factory, and Wels doesn’t lose out on a huge amount of “profit” for the season. And since Wels isn’t spending all his time scrounging diamonds- guess what! He has time to do more entertaining stuff! I didn’t even CONSIDER people would be ragging on that deal, it works out for everyone involved.
The fact that people are saying he got fleeced when it's literally the standard deal people have been making, even Doc is making it and he's the last person who would let himself get fleeced... why do they forget the shops are for convenience, not actually simulating capitalism??
@@johnnyshortforwels literally doesn't have to do anything and gets the profit
I love how Tango asks Etho a question then Etho stands there for second and just gives a quick “Yep!”
I didnt see the vision at first when Tango showed the custom art for Decked Out 2, but you know what i didnt do? Moan about it and make him feel bad about something he was excited about. Trust the process, enjoy the ride. The hermits are being playful and sociable and experimental in such a fun way this season, to complain because they're not having fun your way is childish and selfish
I'm only like fifteen minutes into the video but TANGO if people don't get it, that's a THEM issue. Even if you WERE wanting the moolah, we both know that a complete redstone shop would make bank, not even counting the creative vision that you've so recently proven to be completely awesome in the oldest sense of the word. I haven't been following for long but I've seen some of your things over the years from other Hermits' POVs and its obvious that you bend your considerable brain and imagination towards everything you've made up your mind about. I don't understand quite what your vision is just yet, but I'll admire anything and everything that you do.
I’m indifferent in regards to conveyor belts but I wanted to mention I think water is also very steampunk. Steam is just water in vapor form
The ecstatic of how the water look to move the item is ugly though. In the end they probably hide it behind wall or trap door. I like Tango idea, i don't understand why people mad about it.
Steam is just water in vapor form?!? My mind is fucking blown.
@@johnrodgers8457 lmao came here to say that too... 9000 iq guy right here
@@johnrodgers8457 of course it's obvious and stupid, just like criticizing Tango for using a model he enjoys. When you are stressed from negative views sometimes the obvious escapes you
I love the conveyor belts, it's a very creative idea with the water streams, and seems to work incredibly well & look amazing. I'm surprised people don't like it, I'd be surprised if they weren't the minority.
Your manipulation of (mostly) vanilla Minecraft is part of your appeal. It's like criticising your amazing dungeon door, or the fact that crowns & embers weren't vanilla looking anymore.
I love the custom models and audio. I think it’s one of the best things about your channel. There’s other hermits who do great redstone things without the art and audio but your so good at that stuff and it makes you unique. I love seeing the blend of your custom ideas and the base game.
Man, I wish I could build on the Nether roof in Bedrock. Etho's froglight farm is great. I built one in a treasure bastion that I took over, and it's also very productive, but it took a fair bit of time to set up. As for the custom models, the only complaint I have is that I can't do that as easily in Bedrock. It's fun to see what you all manage to do... and really, that tree prank from season 8 is still top tier shenaniganry in my book, so keep it coming!
This is so true! But I mean bedrock ruins a lot of the redstone from the world downloads so it makes sense the mods don't work
I think I need to comment more 😂 I’d say the majority of your viewers love the custom models, it’s just we don’t always comment, the small minority will always be loud. But do what makes you happy man. We all love what you’re doing.
I'm here to watch you enjoy yourself and explore what's possible in this game (and others)! The custom models add a nice aesthetic, a little extra flair to things, but they're not some massive game-changing thing. As for the QOL stuff, I think some of those are pretty much essential, just based on the amount of time you spend playing this game.
If people really want to see vanilla Minecraft, they can just rewatch older seasons.
Edit: It is absolutely 'nip it in the bud'. And it most likely did come from gardening (there's a thing you do with roses where you cut off all but one of the new buds when they're really small so you just get one flower, but it grows much bigger because all the energy that would have gone to those other buds goes to that one bud instead; it gives you a really big, beautiful rose).
Do the conveyor belts. Because at the end of the day you have to do what makes you happy and not what makes a handful of people who complain about everything unhappy. Like there are a ton of people who don't like the fact that you guys use custom data packs and mods and it's silly you're improving the game and making it more fun for yourself and that's all that really matters
Hey Tango! Long-time lurker and, first-time commenter! I must admit that watching your video - I was pulling my hair out because of the Wels deal - but ultimately came to the conclusion that the deal was secondary to the prospect of a fully Tangofied Redstone shop! Because as we all know - a Tango who is fully immersed and fully creatively invested in what he's doing, is what is the best for the Hermitraft server and for your peace of mind as a creator - which is what we're all here for!
P.S. For extra context, I'm obsessed with the conveyor belts - I honestly can't wait for how all these small, Tango details will transform your factory into something that we haven't seen before! Which is why we click on your videos in the first place!
At the risk of sounding supportive, I love the conveyor concept. I was racking my brain wondering how you were going to get functioning conveyors in minecraft and you pulled off yet another feat of half magic, half science. Your videos are an inspiration, don't let naysayers get you down!
Hey Tango! Screw the diamonds, what you’re doing will be groundbreaking!! I love that you’re making it in your steampunky style…. I am imagining lots of fancy red lights!! You’re making your own redstone shopping district 🔥
Have a fantastic holiday! ❤
To back up what others have been saying, Hermitcraft is about the Hermits first and foremost. What Hermits do should reflect the desires and creativity of every Hermit.
What we love about Hermitcraft and what makes it so different to other SMPs is that Hermitcraft feels like a piece of the internet that still feels human.
You guys treat Hermitcraft the way any server should be and that's an openhanded road of potential, with plenty of room to experiment with datapacks and vanilla assets.
We're not the Hermits. We're not the ones who have to decide how to make Hermitcraft fun. We're not the ones who have control (nor should we).
Do what it is you actually want to do and bring your imagination to life however you and the other hermits please. Its your server, your place to hang out with friends, you do you.
The audience can simply sit and enjoy what the result is and if they don't like it, hey, its one less viewer who never was going to contribute anyways.
Anyone who reads this needs to remember that content creation is fundamentally about artistic expression and the ability to share what one enjoys to the world at large. It must come from the heart of the artist, not from the ramblings of the crowd.
Ever since the naked blaze rod run, I've thought the blaze head would be perfect as ambient sound wherever there are pipes, with the steampunk theme. And hearing the wither projectile, combine that alternating with the blaze on a clock and you have a steam engine.
I wanna say regarding the conveyor belt custom models. Throwing it back to when you first introduced the custom sliding door for DO2, all honesty I hated it because it wasn't vanilla, but by the time the game debuted, it was already so iconic and I loved it. Same will go for the conveyors. Pretty much everyone will either love them or grow to love them.
Tango you can't please everyone
Most of us who have been watching skizz tell him the same thing
We enjoy watching you for you and what you create. If people are really that unhappy let them go into Minecraft and make their own things
Don't ever change or second guess yourself 😊
Aww Tango, please always remember that the commenters that just don't get it...are kids. I mean literally...9 year old kids. The rest of us get it and if it makes you giggle, it's probably gonna make us giggle too. I am adamantly pro giggle.
I second this, I am also adamantly pro-giggle!
I generally don't really like all the custom textures... with every texture it gets less and less vanilla.. but in the end I'm NOT on the server and that is the way I would play minecraft.. you and all the other hermits are playing and creating so much amazing stuff and entertainment. I really think you should play minecraft however you want to!
When I saw the video I thought the conveyor belts were the coolest thing ever.
Hey tango, can you do a horn of sleep deprived doc saying anyways what?
this x1000
Tango, if you wanted to keep the conveyer belt feel without the custom items, you could push the aligned items across blue ice with carpet or bottom slabs on top. The belt would not be animated, but it would be fully vanilla. You might have to have mid-belt item pushers or reconfigure to have more corners. You could use either hidden water streams or piston pushers.
My thoughts on the custom models is that they aren't for me, but that does not matter. You are the one that is in your base everyday and have to live with seeing what is going on in your base. If you dont like your base, you arent going to want to spend time there.
Look at what happened to Iskall last season. He hated the way his base was going for a long time, and admitted that it was a factor in his not wanting to play.
It is your base. You can do what you want to make it look how you like. In the end it is entirely your choice.
Build the factory of your dreams tango!! More gears! More conveyor belts! The whole shebang!!!
Trolling Scar with G just made my morning
Hi Tango! Thank you so much for the content you create! I always love coming in to watch your episodes and other fun offerings!
Etho and Tango being so patient with Scar and his redstone is adorable. ❤ And then there's Pearl making "That's what she said" jokes 🤣
Absolutely agree with you as far as the redstone shop, permits, and the like. I can't wait to see your design for the shop, I think the fun part is gonna be seeing how you set it up with everything in one place, and it's definitely cooler to be able to sell them all
I love the frequent conversations that spring up on Hermitcraft around accents and misheard sayings.
For me, I love the concept you have for the belts, it is definitely how I, and probably most people, would have done it. It's just the art that's the issue, especially the background. Once you fix that I guarantee 90% of people will be fine with it and actually love it.
Listening to a grown man talk about naked sponging his friends on stream and thinking yeah on brand
I totally get Etho and the Snow humor, as a Canadian we've all been there and it's always funny even when I happens to you. But animals and people who have very little experience on sown is always the funniest
Prefacing this with it doesnt make enough of a difference for me, and I'd prefer Tango do what he want, but I find there's a line with custom models, and for me that is decorative blocks like (unfortunately for the conversation) the conveyers. I think custom hats and bundles and music disks add a lot of flavour within minecraft, but I think fundamentally minecraft builds is about making something out of the tools provided. I think of things like the "chair" that are stairs with signs on each side, or the planters that are minecarts with flowers or crops in. The sort of ingenuity of it all would be reduced if you just instead had a custom model for a chair or planter. I also wasn't a fan in season 8 when Xisuma made the derpcoin blocks, but didn't mind derp coins themselves. Cos at what point do you just build the whole build, assign it a customer model, and paste that over just a tonne of dirt.
Tango constantly saying "Scar's got this, he's doing great," and then the redstone session with him later... you can't plan that kind of contrast-based comedy 😂
I like the conveyor belts, they need a little work but I hope you keep them.
The whole Wels thing, at the end of the day, you're happy about owning all the redstone. That's what matters. And who gives AF if people don't like the belts, it's diet Create and you love Create. Too many people are Vanilla purists and they frankly, can eat an eggplant
I think the issue is more the clashing high-res textures. They don't need to be that detailed, and making them that detailed doesn't look great in Minecraft.
Edit: Nvm, he discussed that later in the stream. As long as the art is cleaned, I'm game.
You do good work, I don't use the new stuff cuz I'm like a granny newbie, but y'all all make so many fun and delightful things.
In response to the controversy over the conveyor belts: maybe you could do slime block piston launchers to slide over ice paths? I think that would look more steam-punk, having machinery clunking along and the items sliding around.
And it's still "minecrafty" for those naysayers
I was about to comment this, glad I checked first. I thought it might be nice to also have trapdoors that open to release camp fire smoke to add to the effect
I really liked the tricky solution to the disappearing belts. I'm super stoked to see how your factory turns out, and I think every one wins since you're making it all. Bummed to hear that the comments have got you down. Thanks for doing what you do - looking forward to the next episode!
I'm not too bothered by the conveyor belt model as it's not even functional. It still has a modded feeling to it and I have to wonder what an actual conveyor belt would look like, built in vanilla. So something like a piston feed tape going around the storage room, either with slabs and full blocks, cauldrons, or honey and slime blocks. It'd be a lot more work, but it could be pretty fun.
Do what makes YOU happy! You are playing the game, my friend. Your true followers will be behind you 99% of the time.
Have a great vacation Tango. Love the streams
I like the conveyer belts
Her to say I love your style, custom models and all. Keep on doing what makes you love the game and the server.
In case anyone is wondering, the IP address Tango makes up belongs to the U.S. Army Information Systems Engineering Command.
"why is this kelp in this unrelated chest"
*proceeds to put it into a different unrelated chest*
In terms of the bee sounds I think it might matter how you're listening to the game. I was listening to this video through my computer's speakers and I couldn't hear the buzzing at all. Even if I turned it up and held my ear right to the speaker. I plugged my headphones in the test it and suddenly the sound was super obvious even though they're pretty crappy headphones. So maybe some speakers/headphones just can't make that particular pitch or play that sound super quietly or something. Also yeah some people may keep their block sounds turned down.
55:42 a soul sand bubble column can launch entities upward several blocks, he could just put a hopper minecart halfway on top of a hopper positioned one block to the side and launch the item up through the bottom of the minecart, which would then get pushed/pulled into the regular hopper and thus into the mailbox.
I personally loved the conveyor belts Tango. You do you, I’m a fan of whatever you do with the game
It's nip it in the bud,
It's talking about pruning a plant
The phrase is part of a wider category of words known as eggcorns
@3:00:00 I am also okay with that. Found Etho in decked out 1 if you can believe it. Watched some.... okay a lot of his content. Dude is really clever and he makes me laugh. Y'alls interactions in decked out 2 were my favorite part of the streams besides the redstone, and I must say it's the same here. I am currently making a very similar build in my solo world to what you're making with the factory. Mine is way uglier and more spaghetti but they are exactly the same. Don't look at it. Haha. Looking forward to stea.... I mean getting inspiration from your factory to fix some of the less optically pleasing parts of my redstone.
I love seeing Sir Star, the Scar of Szar Wars.
Maybe on a more economy focused server the "fleeced" comments would've been correct but this is a friendly server where you guys are constantly doing nice things for each other for free or almost free. Besides, every hermit seems to end up with multiple stacks of diamond blocks by the end of the season. I don't think any of the Hermits genuinely care that much about how many diamonds their shops generate, it's literally just a catalyst for plots involving the economy and the permit office.
Tango tek has been my favorite hermit to watch the past 2 seasons
Great content as always Tango👍
the symphony of wardens would make a great factory machine sound!
Agree! Generate that factory white noise which one has to yell over when they do a walk though. Throw in a few good 'thunk' and 'clink' noises, etc. Perfect!
Please dont let people dictate your use of custom models, do your thing and make the atmosphere you want for your build
57:53 in fact, that might be better because it will ding when he's around and thus can hear it rather than when he's absent and can't hear it.
Always remember the people that complain play Minecraft for free and have no accolades to their name. You've come a long way and have suffered throughout many Vanilla playthroughs, it's more than fine to spice things up. Also those commenters are just jealous cause they don't know how to change textures 😂. Love all that you and the hermits put out, number one smp for a reason, keep it up!
The custom models and stuff are great when they're purely cosmetic. If I can download the map later and everything looks and works great even without the data pack, great! It's when it starts being vital to the experience (looking at you decked out 2) that it irks me.
aslong as tango sees the sky in every episode this season i dont care what he does. enjoy being among the hermits tango you deserve it more than anyone after building Decked Out2.
I love that the permit office is ran by vogons.
If you still don't get ethos sorting system, just think of the chest as the item filter, the hoppers leading into test items against the chest, if they don't go in, they return to the minecart.
43:30 Ya know, it's pretty crazy there are people so harped on about it. Like these things have been used on hermitcraft for years at this point, and like they're purely visual (or audio, in some cases), so I don't think it should be that big of a deal. It's adds a lot more fun to these things, right?
re: the mob music, the iron golem head feels like it would make an excellent noise in the background of the factory. It almost sounds like a metal press or something!
15:50 Im personally not a huge fan of the conveyor belt model, it feels too moded. Id like to see piston feed tapes used, although I wouldn't mind if some of the blocks like slime/ honey blocks had their textures changed. That way it still feels "Minecrafty" while keeping the same aesthetic. I also recommend only running the pistons when a player is inside the factory too reduce lag.
Suggestion for the layout of the redstone corner:
Redstone Torch
Repeater
Comparator (these go together thematically for me)
Dropper
Dispenser
Piston
Sticky piston
Observer
Then continue with whatever is next.
I think this is the same amount of space required, but could be wrong.
Also don't forget you can always extend the platform by a block or 2 to give you a little more space. I would probably do so here.
Looking awesome man, can't wait to see how it all comes together!
2:28:33 I love just how unhinged Pearl is in these collabs lmao
I get the resistance to the conveyors because of its similarities to existing mods. But I love that the *function* is 100% vanilla driven and only the visual is from a mod. It still fits the feel of Hermitcraft while being totally Tango.
I think to ditch them would be a huge, huge loss. The vanilla mechanics that drive them are what makes them so amazing. Please don’t lose them.
My opinion on custom models and data packs comes down to the fact that I enjoy trying to use Minecraft's limitations to still make an interesting build. In my own worlds, bringing in someone else's art in place of my own creativity defeats the purpose of that.
I've never had a problem with what you've done with the custom models, because like you say it isn't taking it to the extreme, it's just a cool touch that helps bring your vision to life. And on top of that, you're super involved with creating the models, so it's not like you're stealing someone else's ideas; it's just a different medium for your own creativity, and it really brings life and a unique style to your builds
Until the bee buzzing was discussed, I couldn’t hear anything. But listening closely in between the dialog I could hear a faint buzzing. And then Tango increased the volume. I was getting kinda scared!
Man, people always gotta drop a hot deuce on fun, I dont know why people hate fun so much. Id like to see the fully tricked out factory, but do what ya want.
When I first started playing Minecraft my first thought after learning you could put colored glass on a beacon beam to color it was. I wonder if you could use tinted glass to hide the beam. I am still disappointed to this day.
Yay! Another Tango stream! 😊
We need the goldeneye pause music played with note block heads. Iron golem is the perfect snare for that
Enjoy your vacation!!! We'll be here when you get back. I'm going to watch your vods and videos at.25 speed so they last longer!
Ooo I didn't know you were streaming regularly! I have a huge backlog of vods to watch now while programming :)
I don’t think you got fleeced by wels, I think of him as being a silent partner in the factory.
with respect to the minecraft purists, this is your vision your builds, you gameplay, do what makes you happy, and what represents your vision best. They can love or hate it, but that's for them to decide and live with. Chin up me ol'muka.
Also, is the the beauty and freedom of Minecraft as both a game and a tool not to bring your imagination and creativity to life? When did that stop being the message?