Open Differential vs Limited Slip Differential (Yukon DuraGrip POSI Traction) | AnthonyJ350
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- In this video we compare an Open Differential (Ford Ranger) to a Yukon DuraGrip limited slip differential (Chevy Silverado). We are going to put them in a situation where they don't perform well at all, when one tire has lots of grip while the other side nearly doesn't have any.
Open Diff versus LSD
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the best video on RUclips that clearly explains the operation and characteristics of the two differentials. Bravi!
Thank you!
Yeah it’s the only one I could find on google
Bravo !
I really appreciate how thorough you are with you test examples! I certainly have learned the difference between the two diffs, nicely done!
Thank you for watching, and I'm glad it helped you understand 🙂
in Australia we call an open diff a single pegga
Our slang term is similar. We call it a "peg leg".
lol typical Australian funny term.
I've heard that here in the states
lol, yeah we called them 'single tracks' back in the day.
I call’em one tire fire:)
I've got a factory limited slip in my 2000 jeep cherokee and I can have 1 tire in mud 1 tire on asphalt and it spins both.
Nice!
big bro this is the greatest yt video of all time
So glad you found the video helpful!
@@AnthonyJ350 it helped me understand why other ppl are so confused and how to explain to them better I think lol
I’m thinking about adding a limited slip diff to my truck. the plow operators don’t seem to do their job. So in low speed area’s the roads are full of ice and patches of pavement below. It takes too long to get going, and I can feel the tires spinning and it irritates me. Knowing that one tire just spins.
Adding in a good traction device like a Limited Slip will make a world of a difference how the vehicle drives in general, you won't regret it.
@@AnthonyJ350 I’ve come across something that I think would suit my needs. However I’m trying to figure out if it would be possible to install a Torsen diff in my truck, and what brand is the best.
@@Zulfburht Look into the Eaton TruTrac.
studded snow tires.
Thank you as this seems like one of the few if not only video that shows some isolated, trackable results and reasons for how different products work. And I'm STILL confused. I don't think it's anything you missed... I just tend to be one of those people who has to eliminate all possible wrong thoughts to totally understand something, or... some people say they got it when they're actually still learning and I'm the type who wants complete mastery otherwise I feel lost.
I have an old Isuzu Trooper (it's all I could afford but I desperately missed being off-road for years, so I bought it). It's a '99, so actually one of the last versions, but still that's old tech. It actually does well off-road because of the good rear wheel travel (quite a range for stock!), but i think the front is open and rear is limited slip.
Here's some stupid questions;
With GM parts used in "Frankenstein" joint-products like the Trooper, it actually says "G80" on the plate under the hood where options are listed. I've heard this is sometimes what is labeled even though the version may only be limited slip, not an actual "locker". The behavior of my Trooper's "G80" option tends to support this, as I was stuck like a helpless baby when bogging down in foot-deep icy snow... you know the type of snow like a snow cone consistency-- the worst. The layers underneath slightly melt if you spin, compact into a dense, sweating, ice-ball if you continue to spin in place. The other rear tire did not spin. This is in 4 "Hi" and 4 "Lo". The "Hi" in this case is Isuzu's T.O.D. part-time 4WD system, sending power to the front only if needed... a precursor to what most 4WD trucks offer today. I finally got out by using my little shovel do dig out around the wheels somewhat, threw some dirt and sticks in front and behind each wheel, and aired-down to about 27psi all around. It just walked right out after that. No winching.
I went straight to some large dirt shoulders of rural roads after that to test it in 2WD to see if anything kicked in besides one wheel... yup.
Interestingly though, one test gave me a right wheel long continuous peel-out, and the other kicked in for about 10 feet and then no dirt torn up... just the right. That's right side about 20 feet, left side maybe ten.
The second time... I floored it good and got two long torn up patches in the dirt about 15 feet each. Even a slight fish-tail. Started and stopped at the same spots with enough throttle. I'm confused. Wished it did that when gently trying to go through slushy snow. You know what? In fluffy, new, well below-freezing snow, it DOES kick both wheels in better it seems. I even feel it kick in kinda hard with not much throttle. I'm still confused.
The old Trooper does okay, and actually rarely gets stuck. When it does get stuck though, or fails a climb (VERY rare actually)... it is very stuck. I wish the limited slip was always ready to engage but ALSO a locker could be flicked on just in case. I want both in one. Does that exist?
Finally.. I didn't know the "open" diffs would actually send power to the other side. I guess I never understood it. Does that mean it's just never going to turn both wheels at the same time, because it's "open"? I thought only one wheel turned the whole time. Just ignorant, but mostly because many, MANY people are lousy teachers and can't explain something to save their lives. When I was young they just said stuff like "yeah that's open diff... just one wheel" and left it at that. No internet back then... it came down to how much time and money you had to mess with that stuff.
Anyway, that means if you apply the E-brake, somehow that can make power shift to the other wheel even on an open differential? I didn't know that.
Front and rear Eaton True Tracs would be awesome in your application.
open diffs will spin both in dirt and sometimes wet tar. It sends torque to the wheel with the least resistance. A lunchbox locker in the rear might be worth looking into. You will have to be careful turning not to accelerate or it'll lock/bind and wet/snow covered roads it'll want to come sideways on you since it locked. It basically acts like a welded rear end or a spool unless your off the gas turning. It also will click in turns. But they are cheap, relatively easy to install and are locked except when turning carefully. It is like gm's g80 locker, a simpler design but a little more aggressive.
Like the video stated none are perfect. His recommendation in the reply is probably your best, most practical option.
Any locker in the rear if you're willing to deal with on road characteristics.
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I really like my G80's, but I do take my trucks off road as they are 4x4. True, on wet pavement you have to be careful, because when that locker engages it can cause you to spin out if you are not expecting it.
I would look into Redline, they have a shock proof gear oil I think that might work great for the G80.
@@AnthonyJ350 so is this yukom duragrip good to use in snow i jist had one installed on my ram just wondering
@@sergiozamora5693 Ya I like it in the snow. It's always engaged so it's good when there's ice on ine side of the truck. After you drive it for a bit let me know what you think
An Eaton g80 disengages above like 12 mph. It’s designed that way to keep you from losing control at high speeds.
g80s are the most fun on wet pavement by far quarter throttle and you can spin through 2nd, have definitely spun out on accident a couple times though
Fantastic demonstration
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video 🙂
The yukon duragrip as far as i know is a spring loaded type, not a proper clucth type, so it's like always "locked" until the differencies in resistence torque overcome the spring loaded torque.
In both autolocking differential, clutch type and torsen, the locking activation is from the torque applied from the engine to the tyre, so if you have zero traction on one wheel also the clutch type will slip, it locks partially because of the inertia of the tyre.
In offroad you want to use a manual lock to overcome this problem.
Thanks for your video, it's strange that even with an open differential without the obstacle the behaviour is quite similar.
Thanks for your insight!
Auto locking differentials, such as lunchbox lockers do not require any tire to have traction in order to lock.
Lunchbox lockers are held locked by the center pin of the differential and therefore only need torque from the driveshaft to keep them locked.
That is why you can jack up one side and rotate that tire by hand. But if you have one side jacked up and give it throttle in gear, both tires will spin.
Great advice with the parking brake and it makes perfect cense and a great video thanks.
Glad you liked the video!
*sense
hey, does it impact a lot on daily driving scenarios? like tight parking turn or a traffic jam? im planning to install limited slip diff on my daily driven sedan car, is it any good? do you recommend it?
I love my limited slip for daily driving. It's much more planted and the wet traction is awesome.
You'll be fine it's actually a great addition.
kinda pointless in an econobox sedan, especially if it isn’t rwd
I have a 2016 Ford expedition, 2 Wheel Dr. I moved from California to Tennessee. My right rear wheel seems to lock up when I make right hand turns on a slight incline my trac light comes on but it flashes and goes off. It also spins out in wet services and kind of loses control more so on right hand turns. Your video has helped me. I do have an opened differential. I must admit my car does not feel like it has control on wet services on incline at all, it also has a hard time backing up slight inclines on gravel what would you recommend. Or is this just something I have to live with? Thanks for your advice and advance. Appreciate it.
I would head over to your local trust drive train shop and ask for a good quality limited slip differential.
It'll cost some money, but if the vehicle is in good condition, it's worth to keep driving it and have it be safer and more effective on the road.
@@AnthonyJ350 thank you
This is the style ford used in everything before elockers. Truetrak.
Even that will send you in a spinout if you stomp it in the rain, or if you had 4:10 + in the rear, it do it on tar no brake from a stop. 2v 5.4 f150 im talking. If you cut it hard before you get the rpm up , it has a tendency to 1 wheel though.
You mean Ford's Traction-Lok?
nice outro beat!
Thanks!
Has the dura grip improved now days? If not, would it be better to upgrade the springs and clutches? I just bought dura grip for my 08 silverado.
I use Redline Fluid for clutch LSDs and the engagement is pretty good.
We call open diffs one wheel wonders. very fun turning left, not so much turning right lmao.
That's a new nick name. What area are you from?
1 tire fryer where I'm from lol Maine
Thanks. Question; If your buying a used vehicle how can you tell what combo you have for the rear end? Is it stated on the door tag? On the Trans case? (If they don't have the maintenance repair records?) Looking forward to your test on the logging trails.
You can take the VIN to a dealer and asked if it's a equipped with a traction device.
@@AnthonyJ350 Thanks!
@@bern1228 you probably figured it out by now but gm trucks (and cars probably) have RPO codes in the glove box, g80 is the code for locking rear ends in gm trucks.
7:25 is the most accurate info in this video and is exactly what a good limited slip does and why its a desirable device is.
Thanks for watching!
with a clutch pack LSD there are times like on ice when you can actually overrun the clutchpacks and you'll end up with an open diff
Applying a little parking brake will help or left foot braking a bit.
Can u put locker on the limited slip? I’m about to pick up this 8.8 limited slip wiry posi or does the posi serve the purpose of a locker? Thanks
You can replace a LSD with a locker. You can only have one or the other as it's built into the differential.
@@AnthonyJ350 well if I’m going through all the work to put the 8.8 limited slip in with posi then I guess I’d wait to get an open diff so I don’t have to switch the diffs out again eh?.
@@ryanhayward5910 If you put an open differential in you will have to take it out a again and do the work over. "POSI" is a General Motors term for Limited Slip. I would save your money up and just install whatever differential (Locker or Limited Slip) is best for your ACTUAL driving needs. Your local transmission/ gear shop will be able to help you.
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Hey Anthony, I want to ask you cuz I am planning to install LSD on my 2022 Isuzu Dmax and I have been asking around, is it true that LSD does not perform well in zig zag roads? Also they don't perform well when your in the highway and your turning on high speed?
LSD is designed for corners. Most sports cars have limited slip differentials. What are your intentions of how you're doing to use the vehicle?
@@AnthonyJ350 My intention is to use my Dmax on our coconut farms which I really need traction so I won't get bogged down especially when two wheels are hanging( One front and another one on the rear), is LSD ok?
@@Shimabuku A locker would be better for your application. Or a helical LSD works well with traction control
@@AnthonyJ350 My Dmax has no traction control so that's why I was thinking for LSD. Does LSD work well if one of my wheels in the front and rear ate hanging cantransfer power on the other side of the wheel? The only think I don't like about installing lockers is that they have to drill a hole on my carrier in my diff, what's your opinion with that? If they drill a hole in the future it might leak or water can get in with the hose. I would love to listen to your opinion on my matters.
@@Shimabuku A "locker" in the rear from Eaton would probably be better for your application with a helical LSD in the front differential.
The only one thing that you should have specifically mentioned is what gears are you dealing with and what size is the drum??
Thanks for the feedback!
better use truetrac or elocker for overland?(light offroad situation)
Trutrac front and rear would be awesome. Elocker in the rear if you think you're going to be picking up a tire
AnthonyJ350 okey, maybe I will buy 4runner 2WD and install elocker in rear
I have an f250, 2 WD. I plan on towing a trailer. do you recommend going posi or limited slip?
Posi is a limited slip differential. That's just the marketing name General Motors gave it back in the day.
On ford vehicles the sticker that’s around the driver side door that has the information on it if the axle has a Alphabet letter and a number you have limited slip
Just a number it open diff. Unless someone has changed it out
Example: keep in mind there are many combinations of numbers and or alphabet letters
If it reads: 39 it’s 3.55 open diff.
If it reads: C5. It’s 4.10 limited slip
These are 2 examples of many
So is limited slip best for 2wd ( rear wheel drive) or us an e-locker, or locker in general better? I daily driver alot but the rain and snow is bad. And I do like to offroad.. occasionally.
If it's a daily on pavement most of the time I would say limited slip is best.
This is my truck offroad with an aftermarket Limited Slip and it's 2WD ruclips.net/video/uVxLAoJZuOo/видео.html
So the red truck only uses the passenger rear tire to drive it forward? The driver side is just neutral? Thanks
The red truck will deliver power to the wheel with the least resistance. If resistance is equal, power is equal on both wheels.
Great vid how long do the clutches last on the yukon duragrip?
Hard to answer because it depends how you use it. I would just make sure to use a good gear oil and try to put a magnet on the drain plug.
So would you suggest a switch to the duragrip?
It depends how and what kind of terrain you're going to use your vehicle. If it's mostly street and you want to slide the vehicle and do burnouts the Duragrip is awesome. Also like I stated in the video, the wet pavement grip is a lot better than the G80 because it's always engaged. I still have to do some offroad tests to see how it compares to the Eaton G80 the truck used to have.
The Eaton TrueTrac is another great limited slip you might want to look into.
Thanks for the tip....i use it like u mostly. Diff is lots of snow in winter hehe
More interested in bucking during turns on dry payment. I don't see a lot of people ratcheting the parking brake while mountain driving on clean and packed snow pavement.
I have this video as well ruclips.net/video/uVxLAoJZuOo/видео.html
@@AnthonyJ350 Thanks. This was better info, but does the Yukon LSD cause any kind of chirping or bucking driving on normal dry pavement. The ability for one wheel to spin at a different rate is really what all these diffs are about. I have a Rubicon JK with air lockers. It climbs chain-link fences with its 4:1 transfer case. However, any locking on dry pavement turns it into Mr. Toad's wild ride. Now I also have an older 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 with a LSD. It does great burnouts, but on wet payment, the hemi motor puts down too much power. With no weight in the rear, it slides big time. So much so, I can't pull out in front of anyone. The reason for all of this, I am having a new OLD 1974 Chevy K5 Blazer being delivered. It's retired, so no off-roading. However, we do live in wet Washington State and it does snow. The open diff it has now will not work 365-days a year, so I want a LSD that truly works without drivability issues during nice weather. The K5 makes a nice sound with the 383 stroker, but no racing. Just pleasure driving. The Yukon LSD is recommended, or do you have a better solution? Thank you!! 👍
@@bibleortraditions My truck has good lock up but smooth in the parking lot. I use Redline gear oil with the friction modifier for limited slip differentials.
@@bibleortraditions The other solution to look into is a Eaton True Trac helical limited slip.
@@AnthonyJ350 TY
Will it do better on the sand and mud ?
It will do ok. If you're in those situations you might want to look into a locker.
I got closer to a 35° angle.
35° tangent=0.7002
30.000×0.7002=21.006
21.006×2=42.012
Thats just twelve thousandths over your 42" measurement, so maybe 34.9° is closer.
There's a pretty simple formula for figuring that out I know very little about trigonometry but I do work in a machine shop so I know a few simple formulas
Thanks for the comment
I went from a Colorado with a G80 to a Sierra with open diffs. Can anyone tell me anything good about an open diff? The G80 just kicked in on snow and ice. I just kept on trucking. This Sierra gets stuck in a parking lot and I have to engage the 4wd just to get started moving. Total waste. Plus in bad off-road situations I had 3 wheels getting power, now I barely have 2.. if they feel like getting traction.
Open diffs turn smooth in parking lots. You need to install some sort of traction device to make the truck affective.
So if i install a lsd on rear i have to do it in the front diff 2?
You don't have to, but your offroad capability will go up a lot if you do front and rear LSD.
I have issues with right turns on wet pavement in my navigator and I'm considering getting one of these Yukon LSDs.
It's working pretty good, here it is in action ruclips.net/video/uVxLAoJZuOo/видео.html
Just make sure you bring the SUV to an experienced drivetrain shop. Needs conventional fluid with LSD additive. Don't put synthetic in when it's new.
My truck has a open differential but it brings auto lsd will that help both of them burnout ?
I recommend installing some sort of limited slip differential. The vehicle drives so much better.
Use 3 rollers to demonstrate. It would have simplified in a way for most viewers to understand your point.
Gotta use what you got
Actuality people understand better this way. It is more practical. Rollers are either 100% on or 100% off. In practice this only happen when one or two or three wheels are off the ground. Driving with three wheels off the ground is not reality. When 3 out of 4 wheels don't touch the ground, you'll have much bigger worries than the sleep condition of your diff 😂
what year is the chevy
2005
How's a ranger gunna put up with a v8 tho man
It's a traction test, not a towing test. Power doesn't matter. It's HOW the power is distributed.
Probably easier to get over that block honestly. The V8 would need extra traction to get that heavy engine over it.
The 8 has more low end torque.
What does the handbrske do for you?
It helps send power to the other side
AnthonyJ350 does it help build up speed
Where can I get an LSD kit for the ranger?
Your local parts store. I would have an experienced drivetrain shop order it and install it for you, unless you have a lot of experience setting up axles.
Parking brakes? 4:47 Tire studs?! 6:40 😅 Cool demonstration 👍
Thanks for the comment
I have a 1994 gmc c2500 only does one wheel burn out. I would like 2 wheel burn out which differential do you recommend
How are you using the truck and what type of surface do you need traction?
AnthonyJ350 am using it truck meets and some light off-roading
@@juanlucio628 So mostly street duty. I would do the clutch based Yukon Duragrip or Eaton's hellical gear Trutrac. A limited slip of some sort seems the best for your application, vs a locker.
So would I be able to install one and be able to finally do doughnuts with my toyota?
Yup, you'll have a lot more predictable control from your truck. It will just work better in almost every scenario. Highly recommend.
@@AnthonyJ350 cool good to know 🤣 it’s embarrassing when I’m in the rain on a super slick surface and it won’t kick out. Thanks for the reply lol
@@Chopshop573co It can be tough to manage too. If you're sliding it then wait transfers it might kick in and gets all over the place.
@@AnthonyJ350 true true
air lockers u have to go so slow so they lock or stop lock go get safe unlock, on semi truck
Thanks for sharing your experience!
I saw perfect burnout n nee subs for you
Did this burnout ruclips.net/video/wdY4TZeUHM8/видео.html
So what happens when you put and open diff into 4wd L?
It will act the same but it will have more torque and slow down in rotation.
Your transfer case is the one going into 4WD low, not the differentials technically.
The g80 is the best stock differential for oem part but a limited slip is better suited for a car not truck/SUV and yes i get that the g80 cause the tires to chirp on payment while turning but the g80 will get you out of the muck quickly than a lsd. And in this video the g80 would win in this test over the LSD and the "peg legger". Lol
It would, but LSD is way better in the raid because it's always working. Here's how my truck works offroad ruclips.net/video/uVxLAoJZuOo/видео.html
He called the Ford Ranger a Range Rover lol😂😂😂
I think I had a Range Rover in the shop we were working on and had it on the mind lol
What if you turn off trac control?
Neither vehicle in the test had it equipped
@@AnthonyJ350 damn. Looks like if i dont have a lsd im toast.
Let the fun begin!!!
Video could have been done in only 60 sec...jeeeeeeez!
Still trying to figure out how fast forward works I see
Tortion diffs and Posey traction diffs are the closest you'll get to perfection
For on road and off road performance and enhancing traction, yes they work really well.
This isn’t a posi. Posi is just GMs name for its limited slip. As this isn’t a factory limited slips it’s not a posi
Pretty sure I mention that.
Truetac would climb easily over the chalked wheel
If you don't have traction control and don't apply the parking brake a little?
The wd40 in a spray bottle was so weird to me
It's soooooo much cheaper to buy the spray bottle and refill with one large can. If you're in a shop you'll save a lot of money.
@@AnthonyJ350 I just feel like if I've never seen one of them
@@Titoo.1 It's rare. I found the spray bottle and refill tins at Home Depot.
This is very tough to follow.
Thanks for the feedback
Lol, "tough to follow"
You must have an IQ of 40
Didn't get past the burnout and music.
But then you'll never see them work.
Why did you have to tell us that though? Are you trying to hit a quota?
6:42 you sad it had studs on the tires. Sounds like a pretty bias video
Are you saying you think open differentials are almost as effective? How much of a traction advantage do you think metal studs have when I cover them in lubricant?
@@AnthonyJ350 metal studs are definite advantage. I’m not saying that open diffs are great or effective but this is not a good test/show of the differences. Studs add a lot of traction
@@tjlqk3 Thanks for the feedback! Feel free to donate money so I can buy the exact same tires and trucks for the next test 😉
You talk about 2 tires and what they do, but only show what 1 does? Wtf?
The other wheel is either turning or not. If it doesn't turn the vehicle doesn't move. If it turns the vehicle goes up the incline.
I was thinking the same, maybe show both tires from the rear ? I understand if it goes up the incline the other wheel is engaging but it's nice to get a visual. Otherwise, great video
Got any fwd vids with a birds eye view? 🤣
The other tire is just on the ground moving with the truck.. not much to see
The LS is not good you need a locker.
I think it depends on the application though. Lockers aren't better than LSD in all situations and vice versa.
@@AnthonyJ350 I have a LS in the back I still have to use 4x4 in snow.
@@jack0903 And what makes you think a locker would do better in the snow in 2WD?
What kind of tires are you running and is there any weight in the back?
@@AnthonyJ350 no weight in back. General grabber APT
@@jack0903 Those are good tires. Put weight in the back. An LSD or locker will act pretty similar in the snow on the street.
Your wrong on torson .
Only loss is if in air . 0 resistance
Ice is pretty close to being in the air.
@@AnthonyJ350 no slick yes but no . ice won't matter what u have. . have u ever even had torson lsd ?
Had 99tj Sahara with factory lsd. Rear open front .
Put in sparton locker rear & Detroit true track front . would climb up tree with one front tire .
14jk sport open open .
Torson lsd rear . Detroit locker front . best option so far fun on street and offroad .
@@street_legal_go_kart7356I've only owned two clutch style, G80 and driven a Ram and Crown Victoria with hellical. When I was referring to ice the scenario is ice on one side and pavement on the other, requiring you to left foot brake the hellical gear.
If I had a 4X4 I would totally go with True Trac front and rear or just upgrade the front if the rear had an e-locker already equipped.
@@AnthonyJ350 never a good idea to run a Torsen style LSD front and rear for the same reason you wouldn't want to do an E Locker on both ends. Because if you crossed up axels with one on air would have no traction with a wheel in the air. Elocker suffers from a neutral space going from forward to reverse.
And the LSD should make 0 different putting ice on one side unless you're throttling the crap out of it. An automatic Locker on the other hand can make you skip sideways a little bit because the tire with the most traction is going to push regardless of the other.
@@street_legal_go_kart7356 Weird because military Humvees are euipped with hellical front and rear. ruclips.net/video/EZFVKFyOgqY/видео.html
Eaton true trac
Thanks for the comment!
Sorry but no quema cuh
Thanks for the feedback!
No quema cuh
Will what burn?
@@AnthonyJ350 When you can't do a burnout
This is boring
Thanks for the feedback!
Bro, you drive a Suzuki!
Enough said
@@GratefulOverlander Haha... You drive a Toyota? Enough said.
Booorrrrrrriiiiiinggg
What were you expecting? A Marvel movie? Dude there's a Ford Ranger and old Silverado in the thumbnail....
this is the most fisher price test I've ever seen. grow up and use rollers.
The only time you come across rollers is African Lion Safari tours. Leonard, if this test is so unaffective, why don't you show us how it doesn't work in your own video?
Someone didn't pay attention in high-school and doesn't understand how friction works it seems.
@@AnthonyJ350 I fully agree you didn't pay attention in school. You're not proving anything with your test idiot. Maybe stick your finger up your butt while you do these test so you can feel the pucker factor in your dangerous test lol.
@@RUclipscansuckmyshithole Actually do show what happens. We clearly gave one side of the axle virtually no traction simulating ice. What would you say we did when we reduced friction on one side. Please explain what happened in the video then please.