NYT email slip-up exposes paper's spin on Amsterdam violence, with Asa Winstanley

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
  • This week, The Electronic Intifada broke a major story: An internal email between New York Times staff reveals how the newspaper killed a visual investigation that would have debunked claims that violence in Amsterdam earlier this month was characterized by “anti-Semitic attacks” on Israeli football fans.
    The investigation squashed by editors would have established that it was Israeli hooligans who began a rampage in the city, attacking residents, vandalizing property and then crying victim. Associate Editor Asa Winstanley brings us all the latest.
    This is a segment from The Electronic Intifada's day 411 livestream. Ali Abunimah, Nora Barrows-Friedman, Jon Elmer and Asa Winstanley were joined by contributor Abubaker Abed live from the Gaza Strip, and Kaleem Hawa and Nas Abd Elal from the Palestinian Youth Movement. You can watch the entire broadcast here: ruclips.net/user/li...
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Комментарии • 146

  • @jann5362
    @jann5362 11 часов назад +73

    Thanks for delivering *Actual* journalism

  • @davidm1673
    @davidm1673 11 часов назад +63

    That's solid advise for any mayor: before you regurgitate what another country's embassy tells you is happening in your city, take a look for yourself. That way you won't have to apologize for playing the goon in someone else's sick joke.

  • @sharpshot6111
    @sharpshot6111 12 часов назад +74

    Every accusation is a confession.

    • @markjapan4062
      @markjapan4062 11 часов назад +1

      SAME TO YOU GUILTY OF BLASPHAMY

    • @1BigCREE1Redtail
      @1BigCREE1Redtail 11 часов назад +1

      An accutession. Yes.

    • @aneurindavies5943
      @aneurindavies5943 11 часов назад +10

      There is a phrase which encapsulates and explains that statement; "Deceit's. favourite role is to play the victim. To make the innocent appear guilty, and the guilty seem innocent" Paul Galindo.

    • @rodgerasai
      @rodgerasai 11 часов назад

      Yes. AiM (Accusation in a Mirror) first documented as the main method of propaganda in Germany mid 1930's - mid 1940's.
      Not sure if 'ironic' is correct term when pointing out that it has been fully embraced by Zionists the pas several decades.

    • @cheesepizzaparty
      @cheesepizzaparty 8 часов назад

      @@markjapan4062 ZioTrash nutbag lowlyf3 alert!

  • @HughSansom
    @HughSansom 9 часов назад +35

    Phil Pan was one of the two editors directly responsible for the Times directive requiring NYT journalists to use the paper's sanctioned newspeak - no mention of "genocide," avoid referring to "occupation," etc.

  • @unknownuser11237
    @unknownuser11237 11 часов назад +22

    This exchange around Asa Winstanley's article was quite a brilliant discourse analysis! Thank you, EI. Greatly enjoyed it.

  • @e.t.finger7215
    @e.t.finger7215 9 часов назад +23

    Thank you for your work

  • @MinooDaemi
    @MinooDaemi 11 часов назад +23

    You guys are unrelenting and beautiful in your pursuit of the TRUTH ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @GRTRU-hv1dg
    @GRTRU-hv1dg 12 часов назад +26

    Thanks for all your great work guys. Just started watching 🙏🙌✌️

    • @markjapan4062
      @markjapan4062 11 часов назад

      ALL OF YOU ARE RETARDED STUPID UNINFORMED OF THE TRUTH, ISLAM IS SATAN NOT ABRAHAMIC NOT MONOTHIESTIC NOT THE SAME GOD , THERE IS NO PALESTINE THEY ARE SERYIAN THEY KILLED THE KING OF JORDAN NO ONE WANTS THEM,

    • @HenriqueDeSousa
      @HenriqueDeSousa 8 часов назад

      ​@@markjapan4062 forgot to take your meds?

    • @Allaahesuno
      @Allaahesuno 55 минут назад

      Welcome to the family. :)

  • @highonheroin5352
    @highonheroin5352 11 часов назад +23

    You guys are awesome

  • @anamulrahman543
    @anamulrahman543 10 часов назад +25

    Free Palestine Free Lebanon

  • @End_Illegal_Apartheid_israhell
    @End_Illegal_Apartheid_israhell 10 часов назад +14

    thank you

  • @fuckbankers
    @fuckbankers 9 часов назад +21

    The ICC has issued arrest warrants for Nutenyahu and Gallant.

  • @newearthmirror186
    @newearthmirror186 10 часов назад +10

    What an inspiring team....and as individuals!

  • @lyle4244
    @lyle4244 11 часов назад +28

    "O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!"
    Walter Scott

  • @coldpotatoes2556
    @coldpotatoes2556 9 часов назад +18

    Conspiring to pevert the course of justice, a New York Times initiative.😂

    • @HenriqueDeSousa
      @HenriqueDeSousa 8 часов назад +4

      They got caught with their pants now and will carry on about their lives as nothing had happened.

  • @kfiege01
    @kfiege01 8 часов назад +11

    When the Amsterdam Mayor doesn't have the facts herself ,like she stated, why the hell parrot Netanyahu's point of view..?
    BS-excuses imo..

  • @philippa5400
    @philippa5400 6 часов назад +6

    The Maccabis in Amsterdam, aka The Graveyard of MSM. Keep at it. This story doesn't stop giving!

  • @kabiruzzaman5129
    @kabiruzzaman5129 11 часов назад +6

    Peace 🕊️

  • @maxgurman633
    @maxgurman633 9 часов назад +5

    ‘Perhaps accidentally on purpose’
    Always open..

  • @coyotaurbana
    @coyotaurbana 11 часов назад +19

    Qué viva Palestina libre y soberana 🇵🇸 ✊🏼

  • @douglasmasuku3844
    @douglasmasuku3844 11 часов назад +10

    😂Freudian slip

  • @fanarazzou3292
    @fanarazzou3292 8 часов назад +1

    yeah, Essa is back, welcome back sir.
    Nice to see you all together. You Rock & we SALUTE YOU.

  • @Bewell200
    @Bewell200 11 часов назад +11

    Im a physician from Nigeria who would want to go to gaza or southern lebanon to help . How do i go about it .

    • @donnavorce8856
      @donnavorce8856 10 часов назад +2

      Get in touch with doctors without borders

    • @Dee-JayW
      @Dee-JayW 6 часов назад +1

      I have friends, A HUSBAND dr and wife nurse, from Canada, who work with Médecin sans Frontiers…contact them! English translation of MSF is Doctors Without Borders .

    • @fancyprinter
      @fancyprinter 5 часов назад +3

      Wishing you the best of luck - it's a brave thing to do!

  • @bendyrland7213
    @bendyrland7213 5 часов назад +1

    NYT has jumped the shark

  • @arthurmcgonnell1179
    @arthurmcgonnell1179 9 часов назад +5

    More Bibi impressions please! The world is waiting ,watching & wanting! So much hidden talent @ the E I ! Please don’t hide from us!! Comedy is gonna be key to moving forward.. thank you for continuing the conversation

    • @melotone3305
      @melotone3305 7 часов назад

      You'd think there must be an inflatable Bibi balloon, like the Trump balloons. Right? 😂😂😂😂

  • @tonycooper5599
    @tonycooper5599 11 часов назад +5

    @The Electronic Intifada: get Christiaan Triebert on your payroll! The more honest journalists with integrity that you can poach from other agencies the better! Build yourself up by bringing the others down (and by 'others', I mean the ones that have proven to be biased and wavering, journalistically speaking).

    • @PCMcGee1
      @PCMcGee1 5 часов назад

      Can't pay salaries with good intentions.

  • @gabeyousofunny
    @gabeyousofunny 11 часов назад +3

    lmao not the impression ali 🤣🤣🤣

  • @faizaambah
    @faizaambah 8 часов назад +3

    All the news that’s fit to print protecting the only democracy in the Middle East 😂😂😂

  • @murb2586
    @murb2586 10 часов назад +3

    Be an interesting thing to see an accounting of all of the other chaos, or notable the incidents that happened that very same day around the world that we seem to not care about because, well you know. Whats this obsession with the sensitivity to even the trivial discomforts, if not all out fabricated events for 'them.' not to mention its backfiring

  • @muradtalukdar4401
    @muradtalukdar4401 6 часов назад +2

    Quelle surprise

  • @ashdog9235
    @ashdog9235 4 часа назад +1

    NYT really seems like it’s slowly tearing itself apart.

    • @1being
      @1being 23 минуты назад

      There's always a market for fiction.

  • @muradtalukdar4401
    @muradtalukdar4401 6 часов назад +1

    He's likely going to get sacked... and you should follow up with him.

  • @cbrace
    @cbrace 7 часов назад +4

    As someone who lives in Amsterdam I've not in the past been a huge fan of our mayor, but I do give her credit for acknowledging her mistakes. This kind of honesty is exceedingly rare in politicians.

    • @Dee-JayW
      @Dee-JayW 6 часов назад

      That is only fair! Recognizing a rare apology!

    • @NarcissistAU
      @NarcissistAU 4 часа назад

      The question is would she have apologised if she hadn't been backed into a corner?

  • @philmckay9973
    @philmckay9973 6 часов назад +2

    NYT documented as a psy ops

  • @1being
    @1being 20 минут назад

    Thanks for putting names to these propagandists at nyt. There needs to ge accountability. Nyt - such a sleazy crooked operation.

  • @Allaahesuno
    @Allaahesuno 55 минут назад

    Cheers. Free Palestine

  • @sabrinayounisaden7238
    @sabrinayounisaden7238 8 часов назад +2

    EI ❤❤❤

  • @ambikaleigh
    @ambikaleigh Час назад

    I've been following this story closely and well aware that the media completely misled about who was attacked in Amsterdam... so this comment is not in reference to or in denial of those facts. I'm just so curious why the email from Christiaan is formatted so haphazardly, with phrases and words appearing in a different font/size. Does anyone know what's up with that? Am I just insufferably Type A? 🤓

  • @SavePlanetPlease
    @SavePlanetPlease 11 часов назад +1

  • @babycakes9337
    @babycakes9337 5 часов назад

    Unintentionally cc or not, accept the gift from heaven 😂

  • @mariothirtythree9666
    @mariothirtythree9666 7 часов назад +1

    I agree with all you say except using the term pogrom in any capacity. That is such a heinous act of such magnitude it should not be assigned to any form of hooliganism as equivalent.

    • @Dee-JayW
      @Dee-JayW 6 часов назад +2

      It wasn’t first used by them, but by the liars reporting.

    • @fancyprinter
      @fancyprinter 5 часов назад

      It drives me mad as well. The worst part of all of this crying wolf is that genuine anti-semitism will be fueled by it, and actual anti-semities will point to all these false accusations/equivalencies to disguise their hatred. What a horrible cycle we find ourselves in.

  • @andreadaleyutronebel5894
    @andreadaleyutronebel5894 3 часа назад

    Europe is being colonized by Africa and Muslim World like Palestine was colonized by Jews and like how Algeria was once colonized by the French.
    We support Palestine but we also support European national right to preserve its race and culture.

    • @thetriumphsprint
      @thetriumphsprint 2 часа назад

      The African and Muslim world is still feeling the effects of European colonisation. Certain countries are still paying reparations to their colonisers, because they got independence. If you don't want to be "colonised" then your countries, and the organisations they created, such as the IMF and World Bank, need to end reparations and provide economic assistance to establish first world level infrastructure, especially in energy generation, which cannot rely on solar panels and windmills.

  • @hyperionsixzeroeight5064
    @hyperionsixzeroeight5064 12 часов назад +21

    A very old Polish saying: "The jew cries out in pain as he stabs you in the back".

    • @markjapan4062
      @markjapan4062 11 часов назад

      ALL EUROPEANS ARE HEBREW,

    • @highonheroin5352
      @highonheroin5352 11 часов назад +4

      That’s antisemitism man cmon

    • @1BigCREE1Redtail
      @1BigCREE1Redtail 11 часов назад +7

      Indeed!!

    • @andreastokes9413
      @andreastokes9413 11 часов назад +5

      Change it to the “zio cries out in pain…” and then you’re not being antisemitic just anti zio

    • @magspies
      @magspies 10 часов назад

      are you so dumb you still know/say the difference between Js and ISRs...🙄

  • @jasperchance3382
    @jasperchance3382 6 часов назад

    Justifying pogroms against jews. How low can you get?

    • @gertvanderstraaten6352
      @gertvanderstraaten6352 4 часа назад +1

      Still lying to whatabouter and distract from genocide is a lot lower...

    • @jasperchance3382
      @jasperchance3382 4 часа назад

      @@gertvanderstraaten6352 what genocide? Palestininas have grown five times since 1948.

  • @huughr
    @huughr 11 часов назад

    +

  • @frwansie
    @frwansie 6 часов назад

    There are always two sides to a story. So yes there were Israeli Hooligans among the Maccabi supporters that sang horrible songs, chanted distasteful slurs, ripped Palestinian flags off of buildings and maybe even scuffled/beat a taxi driver.
    Then on the other hand there is the call to hunt down these hooligans and violence that ensued against mainly Israelis and Jews.
    Both sides of this are as guilty as the other one, pots and kettles and both sides feel shortchanged by the Press/media/police/authorities.
    And both sides now bombard social media wjth complaints. Although the thugs amongst the Bontkraagjes seem to get more exposure.... those little darlings just in all this drama for the greater good, heartily supported by useful idiots, pied pipers and others on the barricades.

    • @ntigcide
      @ntigcide 6 часов назад +1

      You should've just kept your thoughts to yourself instead of making a blatant F👀L of yourself.

  • @nimrodaisen8887
    @nimrodaisen8887 11 часов назад

    Do some homework on Hamas history

    • @HenriqueDeSousa
      @HenriqueDeSousa 8 часов назад +3

      Enlighten us

    • @tuantauntuantaun
      @tuantauntuantaun 8 часов назад +3

      ​@@HenriqueDeSousa imagine some 'nimrod' get to enlighten us 😂😂😂

    • @cheryllines4106
      @cheryllines4106 7 часов назад +5

      I HAVE WHATS UR POINT?

    • @Dee-JayW
      @Dee-JayW 6 часов назад +1

      Clearly WE have, Nimrod! 😂

    • @nimrodaisen8887
      @nimrodaisen8887 6 часов назад

      @ when 200000 human beings, being slaughtered made you over joyful it’s time to stop and think if you and the likes of you don’t need to look for a professional intervention. In any case it’s a very sad day. And I can only wish the best for you and your loved once. I hope that they will take care of you.