William could’ve easily escaped the acid needle trap, he should’ve laid down in the corner opposite to where the needles were gonna land. And the needles would’ve missed him barely.
I would love to see more of mark hoffmans origin story!! More in depth of his sisters death, why he has no other family in his life What made him the way he is! His character is so fascinating
Just a theory… but Hoffman could easily escape the bathroom by breaking his foot like Eric Matthews does. Just because Dr Gordon threw the saw away doesn’t mean Hoffman will die. I mean… Hoffman did break his wrist and rip his own face off to get out of the reverse bear trap so he’s not afraid to mutilate himself to survive. So I refuse to believe Hoffman will die int he bathroom as he can easily escape by smashing his foot
But this has been done already. Gotta think of something original and different. Having Hoffman escape the same way Eric did would make the whole chaining people to the bathroom kinda pointless wouldn’t you think?
@@Mac_Kymera Not to mention how there's no way Dr. Gordon, having gone out of his way to toss the hacksaw out of Hoffman's reach, would neglect to lock and bar the freakin' bathroom door.
In no particular order, my top 10 characters throughout the franchise are John Kramer, Amanda Young, Detective Rigg, Detective Kerry, Mark Hoffman, Agent Strahm, Agent Perez, Jill Tuck, Lawrence Gordon, and Adam Stanheight. Honorable mention to Lynn Denlon from Saw 3 and Billy the Puppet (he should be counted as a character too even if he is not a real person as he brings so much personality to these movies).
Glad to see Strahm, Scott Patterson played him perfectly, and I felt he was just more intelligent than his coworkers and the only one good enough to solve things. thought he was really badass and that's the only reason I really like Saw 5 really. thought his character was really entertaining.
Detective eric Matthew’s was one of my my fav detectives. I didn’t know he didn’t want to be in the saw movies anymore. He was a good character. Mark hoffman is a great character I knew he had to come back, I really want to see how he escaped the bathroom. I’ve always said that saw is one of my fav franchises.
Ooh yes Daniel Matthews (petty theft but hes a kid) Adam Zep (hospital orderly) Paul leahy (wire maze trap. He was suicidal/depressed) Allison Kerry Doctor Lynn (had an affair but she was mostly a pawn/they needed a doctor) Jeff Joyce Daygen (bc of bobby) The janitor from the health insurance company The secretary as well These are the ones that had almost 0 reason, esp the ones that were mainly pawns (Daniel, Joyce, the Janitor and Secretary). And the other few were just either struggling with depression/grief, had an affair (lynn), investigating (kerry), or gossipped? Low self esteem? Envy? (Zep, unclear. Saw some people say like an earlier script or commentary claimed he gossipped about coworkers but idk) Many others also didnt deserve it, but these were the ones that had the least justification on their own merits imo Ivan is the one person i think truly deserved his game
That's how you know you love a franchise, you remember all the characters (ok, because you've rewatched to death), and even the ones you hate, you love. I specially hate Bobby Dagan, because I'm a writer and I hate the ones who lie in their writing, but the actor is super funny in press conferences
Happy to see a shoutout for Strahm here, he’s been a favorite of mine for a while and I wish he could’ve stuck around as the new Detective Kerry-like character for a while. While I may be in sparse company on this, though, I actually really like both Rigg and Jill Tuck. Saw IV with Kerry in the lead would’ve been cool, but the way Rigg becomes more and more sympathetic the more friends and colleagues he loses to Jigsaw and Lyriq Bent’s solid performance still place Rigg among the better crop of Saw protagonists to me. Also, while they sadly totally betray her character in Saw 3D, I love Jill’s portrayal as a Karla Homolka-like ice queen who plays her cards extremely close to her chest until the moment is right. The gradual drip-feed of information we got about her throughout the films was really neat to see, and it would’ve been cool to see her still working around the edges of the other characters out there somewhere like Dr. Gordon.
I almost could put Mark Hoffman in the first place but obviously one can't put Jigsaw himself in the second place. Saw movies without John and Hoffman just felt empty for me and to be fair I haven't enjoyed a Saw movie since Saw VII with the obvious exception of the last movie which was amazing with the added bonus of having Mark Hoffman even of only for like a minute or less, with such a cheesy line but I fangirled all the same!
I mean, technically, the only Saw movie without John or Hoffman was Spiral, which was originally meant to be a spinoff, not Saw9. And that movie was anything but empty. John was in Saw 8 (Jigsaw) and only skipped one movie (Spiral) before returning in X with Hoffman. Your comment made me think that those characters missed several movies, not just one, and caused me to go back and make sure I wasn't forgetting a movie. For my own opinion, I know that the next movie will probably take place in the past, and I could never pass up the promise of more John/Hoffman/Amanda shenanigans. But Jigsaw, Saw3D and Spiral set up some interesting implications for the future. Is Hoffman dead, or did he escape again, because he tends to have a habit of clutch victories. What about Gordon and Jigsaw's cult(?) are they still running amok? We still have Logan unaccounted for and William Schenk using Jigsaw's methods to upend an entire justice department and traumatize Zeke Banks. How will that all hash out? I hope those stories reach some conclusions or get expanded upon more.
I 100% agree with William being on the list! Like you said with Strahms death.. every time I watch saw 6.. I hope the ending changes and they choose to forgive Willaim instead. He’s a great character who had such growth in just one movie!
I agree with your list I will add imo a honorable mention goes to Rigg, Fisk( who I hope comes back for saw 12) I did like will Schank and Eleanore from jigsaw
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Mybe Dr Gordon rushing to get Hoffman in that bathroom he missed emptying Hoffmans pockets and he has something he can pick the lock with. It would also explain how he opens the sliding door to the bathroom too. We want a mobile returning Hoffman, not a missing or bashed in foot Hoffman lol. X
Indeed, it would be weird having Dr. Gordon and Hoffman both missing a leg. If they let him survive it must be very creative and thinking out of the box, just like he did with the reverse bear trap. I bet no one expected him to survive when there was like 5 seconds left till he actually did it by using his surroundings in a very clever way.
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on the topic of lawrence, i keep thinking about how different the franchise would've been compared to what we have if cary elwes was paid fairly by lionsgate. he was apparently supposed to be in lynn denlons place n all.. so many things would've come out differently it's crazy
I thought Cecilia was one of the worst in the franchise but she was downright ruthless and badass in that regard. I can understand why they let her live.
Exactly, I need to know more about Larry. He's so interesting character and the fact that he's another appearance just blowed my mind lmao. He has to be in the new Saw movie 🙏🙏
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It would be nice to know if Eric Matthews ever did find out about his son. That would place his struggle in perspective when "saying i don't want to play anymore"
I believe he never did, that's a person who has no motivation to fight for his life. He believes he failed to save his son (to be fair he did fail), but the idea that his son died because of him being a corrupt cop must be torture by itself, so all this is a pointless “prolonging the inevitable” for him. Had he known his son survived he wouldn't have given up in my opinion.
I'm a firm believer that Adam is still alive because, after the bathroom stuff, John started having A LOT of pictures of the victims and their schedules and who else but Adam - whose job literally was to stalk people - would be good at taking pics of the victims and finding out their schedules?
just on the hoffman section and you're talking about him in the bathroom. thought it would be funny if there was a gag scene. everyone thinks its gonna be a scene of him escaping. instead, its just him sitting down, unable to do anything and he's just singing or humming to himself. then theres cut cuts of him doing random stuff to keep himself occupied, humming, playing eye spy, tapping the floor to make a tune. just odd random things
Characters like Lynn Denlon, Detective Perez, Simone Bethson, Jill Tuck, Zepp, Daniel Matthews, Eleanor Boneville and William Schenk should have a honorable mention or bonus
We rewatch the entire franchise haha! We’re actually currently working our way through all the classics- and also a lot of films starring saw cast members(like costas Mandylor) which is a lot of fun!
@HorrorSauce ha ha, I have watched the franchise 4 times, I never get bored of it, it took me 2 runs to get my head around what was happening 😀 you're big fans of Costas that's quite clear. I'll check out what else he is in, thanks for the reply 👍
Eric although he was a corrupt cop he did always care for daniel also it annoys me so much when people say he shouldve just listened to a SERIAL KILLER who was telling him to wait out a timer after being told ur son would die after 2 hours i would do the same as him
I would love for the end of saw 11 to be that we flash fowards to the end of saw 7 and we see logan enter the bathroom and helps hoffman escape and that maybe they are freinds then once tobin bell doesnt want to do anymore films could have a film with logan and hoffman after Gordon i think it would also make the film jigsaw a little better.
The reason william easton died is because he was tested and became a rehabilitated man, a good man after that but he had his live or die moment decided by somebody else just how he would choose theirs.
saw 11 theory: It will follow Hoffman and show him escape the bathroom and design his own new traps. also do you think I should but the trick or treat studios life size billy puppet ???
William Easton is the only member of the Unfortunate Trifecta: deserved to be in his trap/game, seemed to genuinely change by the end, and dies anyway.
When Tobin passes, they MUST retire the Saw franchise! I've always been a believer in John's philosophy & I don't think he's ever do anything wrong (Saw X strengthened that further) Tobin is John & John is Tobin! I love the Saw franchise to bits but it CAN'T continue without Tobin & q reboot will fail!
My: 1. John Kramer 2. Eric Matthews 3. Mark Hoffmann 4. Peter Strahm 5. Schenk 6. Bobby 7. Rigg 8. Jill 9. Laurence Gordon 10. Kerry 11. Logan Nelson 12. William Easton 13. Daniel Matthews 14. Mitch 15. Amanda Young 16. Ezekiel Banks 17. Perez 18. Cecilia Peterson 19. Art Blanc 20. Adam
Ah I love this ranking! I’m also in a very happy fan girl mood today as I’ve just got tickets to meet my man Costas Mandylor in May 😱 I’m very happy but also nervous and hoping I don’t make a fool of myself 😂 but he seems and sounds amazing from what I’ve heard from others. I can’t wait. Hopefully meeting Shawnee in October too 😱 my top 10 characters would be … 1. Hoffman 2. Amanda 3. Jigsaw 4. Gordon 5. Adam 6. William 7. Strahm 8. Kerry 9. Matthews 10. Jill
Great list! Very jealous about costas! Make sure to ask him heaps about saw 11 haha, he’s very easy to squeeze info out of! We might even see you at the con in October 😉, we’ll see! Haha
@@HorrorSaucehaha yes!! Definitely going to try and get Saw 11 details out of him 😂 it would have all been completed by then too 😱 though I don’t know how I’m going to meet him and not faint 😂 I’ve been obsessed with both the franchise and him since my teens. I’m now 34. So it’s going to be a overwhelming feeling for sure haha. And that’s awesome !! Be cool if I did get to see you both at the Manchester con. I’ve been a big fan of this channel just before Saw X. I’m not the biggest commenter but I watch every video. Love watching you both talk all things about Saw, my favourite franchise 🥰
prediction before i watch: allison kerry, amanda young, agent strahm, hoffman, jeff, john kramer, dr gordon, maybe logan, adam and eric matthews (also i used to hate jeff but after watch ur videos it made me realise that he's actually good)
I despise Hoffman! The fact that no one could take him down and seeing his ambiguous demise is nerve-wracking. The fact that he may have survived another trap makes me want to see the next installment just to hope he finally goes down in the worst possible way
Only 45 seconds in and I am calling it... Your Number 1 is HOFFMAN! EDIT: OK! You blew my mind... MARK HOFFMAN ONLY NUMBER 2??? Great Placement I wont lie... I am just very shocked!
In Saw the list will be very short with Eric’s son on top of it because he is obviously truly innocent, a teenager involved in this mess because of his father and for a kid he was pretty brave and showed to have a good moral compass. -The wife of the man who pretended to be a Jigsaw survivor (the lady didn't even know about it and ended up having one of the most horrible deaths in Saw). -Detective Straham and his partner (forgot her name) because they weren't corrupt and just wanted to solve the case and made more progress than the police in year's. Kerry (technically she is not the married one so…). -The main character from Spiral but I don't even remember his nam- - Dr. Lynn maybe but she was the cheating one (seeing how Jeff was her husband I can't blame her for looking for another person but she had a daughter with whom she could have spend that free time). - The kid from saw X, despite having like 10 he was very brave and didn't want to harm a man he talked like once even if it may have cost him his life. I don't really have in mind someone else in mind. Given that the all team Jigsaw are serial killers, the police department is corrupt and like 99% of the victims were garbage human beings it's difficult to find a morally good personage with more than one minute of screen time.
I don’t understand the Jeff hate, he didn’t even deserve to be put in those situations and at the end he did try and save multiple people even if he failed. I’m a Jeff enjoyer I don’t care what anyone else thinks.
It would have made way more sense for her to be the protagonist because of her relationship with Eric. Perhaps it was because the actor wanted the least screen time possible and her being connected to Eric on a personal level would have involved at least one flashback with him in it.
yeah, makes me wonder too. I think his heart wanted to but he put his survival as a priority.... But, Saw 7 kind of reveals that he crawled out and then sort of passed out after heating his foot up, so he couldn't really go back could he, it was just a mess, he meets with John and just doesn't really question anything.
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Cecilia’s quote on John doing ”the scary voice” is sooo good! That scary voice is very iconic after all.
"gom nom johnm use the scary voice"
So good!! 😍😍
The desires of the Saw Fandom as follows.
1: Adam revealed as alive and an apprentice
2: Mark leaving the bathroom
3: Cecilia dying
William Easton had one of the best character arcs. Clearly was redeemed by the end of Saw: The Healthcare one 😂
Yes! 100%! 😍
He's one of my favorites!!
William could’ve easily escaped the acid needle trap, he should’ve laid down in the corner opposite to where the needles were gonna land.
And the needles would’ve missed him barely.
I would love to see more of mark hoffmans origin story!! More in depth of his sisters death, why he has no other family in his life
What made him the way he is! His character is so fascinating
We are so ready for this! 🤩
Just a theory… but Hoffman could easily escape the bathroom by breaking his foot like Eric Matthews does. Just because Dr Gordon threw the saw away doesn’t mean Hoffman will die. I mean… Hoffman did break his wrist and rip his own face off to get out of the reverse bear trap so he’s not afraid to mutilate himself to survive. So I refuse to believe Hoffman will die int he bathroom as he can easily escape by smashing his foot
But this has been done already. Gotta think of something original and different. Having Hoffman escape the same way Eric did would make the whole chaining people to the bathroom kinda pointless wouldn’t you think?
@@Mac_Kymera Not to mention how there's no way Dr. Gordon, having gone out of his way to toss the hacksaw out of Hoffman's reach, would neglect to lock and bar the freakin' bathroom door.
There is no way hoffman isnt alive
"BRUTALITY"
Also I never understood how people would say how William Easton wasn't changed/rehabilitated.
In no particular order, my top 10 characters throughout the franchise are John Kramer, Amanda Young, Detective Rigg, Detective Kerry, Mark Hoffman, Agent Strahm, Agent Perez, Jill Tuck, Lawrence Gordon, and Adam Stanheight. Honorable mention to Lynn Denlon from Saw 3 and Billy the Puppet (he should be counted as a character too even if he is not a real person as he brings so much personality to these movies).
I think Cecelia is an amazing character as well
Totally totally agree with you on William Easton. So glad to see someone share my views on him and saw vi
We’re starting to enjoy him a little too much haha 😆
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We’ll keep ‘em coming! 😍
Glad to see Strahm, Scott Patterson played him perfectly, and I felt he was just more intelligent than his coworkers and the only one good enough to solve things.
thought he was really badass and that's the only reason I really like Saw 5 really. thought his character was really entertaining.
Hoffman's discussion in this video was the longest (deserved) shows how important he was in the story
I really hope we see more of Daniel. Maybe he becomes an investigator after his fathers death and avenges his father
Detective eric Matthew’s was one of my my fav detectives. I didn’t know he didn’t want to be in the saw movies anymore. He was a good character. Mark hoffman is a great character I knew he had to come back, I really want to see how he escaped the bathroom. I’ve always said that saw is one of my fav franchises.
Donnie Wahlberg killed it in the role! We’ll always love Eric Matthews! 😍
I'm actually incredibly surprised that Slow Ass Motherfuckin' Jeff wasn't somewhere on your list!
It was tempting! Hahaha we love Jeff, but there are too many great characters! 🤩
@@HorrorSauce Honorary mention? =p
😂😂😂😂😂
I got a video idea. What if you make a video of the top 10 most innocent people that were in a saw trap. I would love to see that
Ooh yes
Daniel Matthews (petty theft but hes a kid)
Adam
Zep (hospital orderly)
Paul leahy (wire maze trap. He was suicidal/depressed)
Allison Kerry
Doctor Lynn (had an affair but she was mostly a pawn/they needed a doctor)
Jeff
Joyce Daygen (bc of bobby)
The janitor from the health insurance company
The secretary as well
These are the ones that had almost 0 reason, esp the ones that were mainly pawns (Daniel, Joyce, the Janitor and Secretary). And the other few were just either struggling with depression/grief, had an affair (lynn), investigating (kerry), or gossipped? Low self esteem? Envy? (Zep, unclear. Saw some people say like an earlier script or commentary claimed he gossipped about coworkers but idk)
Many others also didnt deserve it, but these were the ones that had the least justification on their own merits imo
Ivan is the one person i think truly deserved his game
That's how you know you love a franchise, you remember all the characters (ok, because you've rewatched to death), and even the ones you hate, you love. I specially hate Bobby Dagan, because I'm a writer and I hate the ones who lie in their writing, but the actor is super funny in press conferences
Happy to see a shoutout for Strahm here, he’s been a favorite of mine for a while and I wish he could’ve stuck around as the new Detective Kerry-like character for a while.
While I may be in sparse company on this, though, I actually really like both Rigg and Jill Tuck. Saw IV with Kerry in the lead would’ve been cool, but the way Rigg becomes more and more sympathetic the more friends and colleagues he loses to Jigsaw and Lyriq Bent’s solid performance still place Rigg among the better crop of Saw protagonists to me. Also, while they sadly totally betray her character in Saw 3D, I love Jill’s portrayal as a Karla Homolka-like ice queen who plays her cards extremely close to her chest until the moment is right. The gradual drip-feed of information we got about her throughout the films was really neat to see, and it would’ve been cool to see her still working around the edges of the other characters out there somewhere like Dr. Gordon.
Your top 3 are the same as my top 3 !!! Why are we so obsessed with Hoffman lmao, I am part of the delusion and I love it
Hahaha just wait till saw 11!
He’s #1!!
I almost could put Mark Hoffman in the first place but obviously one can't put Jigsaw himself in the second place. Saw movies without John and Hoffman just felt empty for me and to be fair I haven't enjoyed a Saw movie since Saw VII with the obvious exception of the last movie which was amazing with the added bonus of having Mark Hoffman even of only for like a minute or less, with such a cheesy line but I fangirled all the same!
I mean, technically, the only Saw movie without John or Hoffman was Spiral, which was originally meant to be a spinoff, not Saw9. And that movie was anything but empty. John was in Saw 8 (Jigsaw) and only skipped one movie (Spiral) before returning in X with Hoffman. Your comment made me think that those characters missed several movies, not just one, and caused me to go back and make sure I wasn't forgetting a movie.
For my own opinion, I know that the next movie will probably take place in the past, and I could never pass up the promise of more John/Hoffman/Amanda shenanigans. But Jigsaw, Saw3D and Spiral set up some interesting implications for the future. Is Hoffman dead, or did he escape again, because he tends to have a habit of clutch victories. What about Gordon and Jigsaw's cult(?) are they still running amok? We still have Logan unaccounted for and William Schenk using Jigsaw's methods to upend an entire justice department and traumatize Zeke Banks. How will that all hash out? I hope those stories reach some conclusions or get expanded upon more.
I 100% agree with William being on the list! Like you said with Strahms death.. every time I watch saw 6.. I hope the ending changes and they choose to forgive Willaim instead. He’s a great character who had such growth in just one movie!
I honestly dont like how William Easton's life was ended.
He could of been much more , but ofc Brent messes that up 😢
Damn you Brent!! 😭😭
John is the number 1, obviously.
listen i don't if its me alone or but i prefer hoffman number one john number two i love john but hoffman was just the best character to me
@@wishkaroti1587 Very well, you should be careful the next days. I have a game for you...
@@wishkaroti1587Hoffman was an amazing character.
I agree with your list I will add imo a honorable mention goes to Rigg, Fisk( who I hope comes back for saw 12) I did like will Schank and Eleanore from jigsaw
I need u to do 10 worst characters in Saw, love u guys❤ The part where u were joking abt Zeke being the best character of the franchise was so funny 😹😹😹
Jeff Denlon
Zeke's corrupt former partner
Dec Holleran
Zep
Logan
Bobby Dagen
Cecil Adams
Parker Sears
Xavier
Dinna
In no particular order
Forgot about Seth Baxter
😂😂 worst characters list coming soon!!
Gibson #1
Logan #2
Halloran #3
Mybe Dr Gordon rushing to get Hoffman in that bathroom he missed emptying Hoffmans pockets and he has something he can pick the lock with. It would also explain how he opens the sliding door to the bathroom too. We want a mobile returning Hoffman, not a missing or bashed in foot Hoffman lol. X
Indeed, it would be weird having Dr. Gordon and Hoffman both missing a leg. If they let him survive it must be very creative and thinking out of the box, just like he did with the reverse bear trap. I bet no one expected him to survive when there was like 5 seconds left till he actually did it by using his surroundings in a very clever way.
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I agreed with every pick… my order may have been slightly different but agreed… glad my guy Strahm was in there
Our boy Strahm will always be taken care of in this house! 😍
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on the topic of lawrence, i keep thinking about how different the franchise would've been compared to what we have if cary elwes was paid fairly by lionsgate. he was apparently supposed to be in lynn denlons place n all.. so many things would've come out differently it's crazy
I thought Cecilia was one of the worst in the franchise but she was downright ruthless and badass in that regard. I can understand why they let her live.
Exactly, I need to know more about Larry. He's so interesting character and the fact that he's another appearance just blowed my mind lmao. He has to be in the new Saw movie 🙏🙏
Let’s hope the negotiations with Cary are going well! 🙏
Your channel is my discovery this year. I love saw and I really needed to hear someone talk about it with such passion. I'm looking forward to the next videos ❤️❤️❤️
Welcome aboard! Great to have you with us! 😍🧩
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Great list . Agree with the list especially John Kramer and Mark Hoff . ❤
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its so funny to me that all these characters are either dead or villains or both, its so telling about what the saw series is like.
They all end up there eventually! Haha
It would be nice to know if Eric Matthews ever did find out about his son. That would place his struggle in perspective when "saying i don't want to play anymore"
I believe he never did, that's a person who has no motivation to fight for his life. He believes he failed to save his son (to be fair he did fail), but the idea that his son died because of him being a corrupt cop must be torture by itself, so all this is a pointless “prolonging the inevitable” for him. Had he known his son survived he wouldn't have given up in my opinion.
I want to see Gordon kill the killers in 8 and 9. In an intro scene.
In all honesty, I cried at the end of Saw III. I hope Amanda really isn't dead cause she's definitely one of my favorite characters
I'm a firm believer that Adam is still alive because, after the bathroom stuff, John started having A LOT of pictures of the victims and their schedules and who else but Adam - whose job literally was to stalk people - would be good at taking pics of the victims and finding out their schedules?
Hmmmm good point
Cecilia deserves better! Eric Matthews above Cecilia?! No way!
just on the hoffman section and you're talking about him in the bathroom. thought it would be funny if there was a gag scene. everyone thinks its gonna be a scene of him escaping. instead, its just him sitting down, unable to do anything and he's just singing or humming to himself. then theres cut cuts of him doing random stuff to keep himself occupied, humming, playing eye spy, tapping the floor to make a tune. just odd random things
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17th Gabriella (10)
16th Allison Kerry (1-3)
15th Xavier (2,5)
14th Addison (2,4-5)
13th Eric (2-4)
12th Jeff Denlin (3-4)
11th Tapp (1)
10th Riggs (2-4)
9th Lauren (2,5)
8th Sing (1)
7th Jonas (2)
6th Hoffman (3-7, 10) Killer
5th John (1-8, 10) Killer
4th Amanda (1-7, 10) Killer
3rd Lawrence (1,3,7) Killer
2nd Daniel (2)
1st Adam (1,3)
Characters like Lynn Denlon, Detective Perez, Simone Bethson, Jill Tuck, Zepp, Daniel Matthews, Eleanor Boneville and William Schenk should have a honorable mention or bonus
Hi Zoe, Adam love the channel. What is your go to horror while i wait for Saw 11? Best suggestion please guys
We rewatch the entire franchise haha!
We’re actually currently working our way through all the classics- and also a lot of films starring saw cast members(like costas Mandylor) which is a lot of fun!
@HorrorSauce ha ha, I have watched the franchise 4 times, I never get bored of it, it took me 2 runs to get my head around what was happening 😀 you're big fans of Costas that's quite clear. I'll check out what else he is in, thanks for the reply 👍
Detective Kerry should've never died IMO.
Well! You might be interested in our new Saw top 10 launching this weekend! 👀
@@HorrorSauce can't wait... she's my favorite.
@HorrorSauce I would've loved a movie featuring Strahm and Kerry.
@@calvincameron354 we can still dream that they might turn up in saw 11!
@HorrorSauce I hope!
The disrespect for detective Matthews is crazy. If you leave out jigsaw, he’s a top three character.
Matthews is sooooo good.! 😍
I absolutely love John Kramer and Dr Gordon . Mark Hoffman, I hate his face sooo much.. but he's a good actor lol
Hahaha the best!!
Nice list guys .. I’m truly surprised you didn’t include Jeff on it
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Had to keep you on your toes haha!
There was just too many great characters to choose from!
Eric although he was a corrupt cop he did always care for daniel also it annoys me so much when people say he shouldve just listened to a SERIAL KILLER who was telling him to wait out a timer after being told ur son would die after 2 hours i would do the same as him
I would love for the end of saw 11 to be that we flash fowards to the end of saw 7 and we see logan enter the bathroom and helps hoffman escape and that maybe they are freinds then once tobin bell doesnt want to do anymore films could have a film with logan and hoffman after Gordon i think it would also make the film jigsaw a little better.
Was getting ready to suggest the top 10 worst Saw characters, then you brought it up! Looking forward to that and any other Saw news you send our way!
We’re working on it! 😍
Great list, idk about Gordon tho he’s just so blah in saw 3D compared to Saw 1 he’s great. Not enough of him
The reason william easton died is because he was tested and became a rehabilitated man, a good man after that but he had his live or die moment decided by somebody else just how he would choose theirs.
Great list. I would love to see more Perez, she is so underrated!
Not really😆
saw 11 theory: It will follow Hoffman and show him escape the bathroom and design his own new traps. also do you think I should but the trick or treat studios life size billy puppet ???
William Easton is the only member of the Unfortunate Trifecta: deserved to be in his trap/game, seemed to genuinely change by the end, and dies anyway.
this isnt related to the video at all but where did you get the purple and black shirt with the wolves and stuff on it?? its super cute
I love that Billy the mug on the shelf 😂
When Tobin passes, they MUST retire the Saw franchise!
I've always been a believer in John's philosophy & I don't think he's ever do anything wrong (Saw X strengthened that further)
Tobin is John & John is Tobin!
I love the Saw franchise to bits but it CAN'T continue without Tobin & q reboot will fail!
Agreed. There IS NO Saw with Tobin Bell!
My:
1. John Kramer
2. Eric Matthews
3. Mark Hoffmann
4. Peter Strahm
5. Schenk
6. Bobby
7. Rigg
8. Jill
9. Laurence Gordon
10. Kerry
11. Logan Nelson
12. William Easton
13. Daniel Matthews
14. Mitch
15. Amanda Young
16. Ezekiel Banks
17. Perez
18. Cecilia Peterson
19. Art Blanc
20. Adam
David tapp should be in the top 10 imo he kind of set the tone for cops anyway lol.
He was great, albeit short lived 😬
Im early FOR THIS BANGER
And what a banger! Haha 😂 😍
Really thought you guys might have Hoffman at #1! But love this list. Can’t wait for the 10 worst characters! Lots to choose from 😂
Coming soon! 😍
I don't want to see Hoffman escape the bathroom. cheap twist
I agree if anything I’d rather see Adam make a return
i hate cecilia but her charecter is so intresting and i do enjoy watching her in Saw X, so in a way i do like her too
Ya gotta love to hate her! 😆
@@HorrorSauce frrrrr😭
Babe, wake up new HorrorSauce video just dropped ❤
Ah I love this ranking! I’m also in a very happy fan girl mood today as I’ve just got tickets to meet my man Costas Mandylor in May 😱 I’m very happy but also nervous and hoping I don’t make a fool of myself 😂 but he seems and sounds amazing from what I’ve heard from others. I can’t wait. Hopefully meeting Shawnee in October too 😱 my top 10 characters would be …
1. Hoffman
2. Amanda
3. Jigsaw
4. Gordon
5. Adam
6. William
7. Strahm
8. Kerry
9. Matthews
10. Jill
Me too!!! 🙌🏻
Great list! Very jealous about costas! Make sure to ask him heaps about saw 11 haha, he’s very easy to squeeze info out of!
We might even see you at the con in October 😉, we’ll see! Haha
@@HorrorSaucehaha yes!! Definitely going to try and get Saw 11 details out of him 😂 it would have all been completed by then too 😱 though I don’t know how I’m going to meet him and not faint 😂 I’ve been obsessed with both the franchise and him since my teens. I’m now 34. So it’s going to be a overwhelming feeling for sure haha.
And that’s awesome !! Be cool if I did get to see you both at the Manchester con. I’ve been a big fan of this channel just before Saw X. I’m not the biggest commenter but I watch every video. Love watching you both talk all things about Saw, my favourite franchise 🥰
If you need more list ideas, I'd love to see a top 10 minor Saw characters
If Brenda from Saw IV returns in Saw XI, I think she might be a new villain on John and Amanda's side.
Adam and amanda are my personal favorites
They are amazing staples of the franchise! 🤩
How does everyone forget that Adam is in Saw 3? It's a short scene but he's in there.
I'm sure Cody Leach won't be happy if Dr. Gordon would make a return 😅
prediction before i watch: allison kerry, amanda young, agent strahm, hoffman, jeff, john kramer, dr gordon, maybe logan, adam and eric matthews (also i used to hate jeff but after watch ur videos it made me realise that he's actually good)
Pretty close list!
I despise Hoffman! The fact that no one could take him down and seeing his ambiguous demise is nerve-wracking. The fact that he may have survived another trap makes me want to see the next installment just to hope he finally goes down in the worst possible way
Jeff is defo topping a last of worst characters, he is so jarring. I think Eleanor from Jigsaw deserves a mention Just imo
Also, Carrie was what upset me...I hoped she would carry (pun intended) saw 4.
Billy’s #1 sorry haha
Billy is our special little boy
Only 45 seconds in and I am calling it... Your Number 1 is HOFFMAN!
EDIT: OK! You blew my mind... MARK HOFFMAN ONLY NUMBER 2??? Great Placement I wont lie... I am just very shocked!
As much as I love Hoffman, nobody's gonna top John Kramer, come on now.
@@realhousewifeoftransylvania1.0 Yup, must agree
Haha we couldn’t play you guys like that!
Gotta respect the OG 👌
Im waiting for the mark Hoffman vs doctor Gordon saw movie since we all know if he gets out he is not going to let doctor Gordon get away with it
So...are we going to get the best (morally) characters?!? Please???
In Saw the list will be very short with Eric’s son on top of it because he is obviously truly innocent, a teenager involved in this mess because of his father and for a kid he was pretty brave and showed to have a good moral compass. -The wife of the man who pretended to be a Jigsaw survivor (the lady didn't even know about it and ended up having one of the most horrible deaths in Saw). -Detective Straham and his partner (forgot her name) because they weren't corrupt and just wanted to solve the case and made more progress than the police in year's. Kerry (technically she is not the married one so…).
-The main character from Spiral but I don't even remember his nam-
- Dr. Lynn maybe but she was the cheating one (seeing how Jeff was her husband I can't blame her for looking for another person but she had a daughter with whom she could have spend that free time).
- The kid from saw X, despite having like 10 he was very brave and didn't want to harm a man he talked like once even if it may have cost him his life.
I don't really have in mind someone else in mind. Given that the all team Jigsaw are serial killers, the police department is corrupt and like 99% of the victims were garbage human beings it's difficult to find a morally good personage with more than one minute of screen time.
Those thumbnails are becoming too goofy ngl 😂
No Billy the puppet?
#justiceforJeff 😂
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Favorite character his name is VERY FUKIN CONFUSED
John is number 1
Jigsaw is a close 2nd
HORROR FANS!!!!!!
#JusticeforJill
I thought number one was gonna be John Kramer
everyone watching this video came to see who's 2 and who was 3. Did you guess right?
William easton and saul goodman shouldve like partnered up
John Kramer and det hoffman
I don’t understand the Jeff hate, he didn’t even deserve to be put in those situations and at the end he did try and save multiple people even if he failed. I’m a Jeff enjoyer I don’t care what anyone else thinks.
STRAHM #1 RIP
And I was right
1. Special agent Peter Strahm
2. John Kramer
3. Detective Kerry
4. Mateo
5. Adam
6. Jill
7. Charles (Saw V)
8. Amanda
9. Custodian
10. Lawrence
kerrys death was like the biggest fuck you imo
It would have made way more sense for her to be the protagonist because of her relationship with Eric. Perhaps it was because the actor wanted the least screen time possible and her being connected to Eric on a personal level would have involved at least one flashback with him in it.
Why did he not go back for adam like he said he would?
Big question lol
yeah, makes me wonder too.
I think his heart wanted to but he put his survival as a priority....
But, Saw 7 kind of reveals that he crawled out and then sort of passed out after heating his foot up, so he couldn't really go back could he, it was just a mess, he meets with John and just doesn't really question anything.
hmmmmm i sure wonder what the best character is going to be hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Did you guess correctly? 🤔😂
Dear god no, not Adam any higher
I think that if they have Hoffman survive the bathroom then the ending of Saw 7 is ruined.