Anyone else prefer Lucas over Ness? Don't get me wrong, Ness is great, and better competitively, but I just find Lucas more fun to play as, even if his competitive game isn't as strong as Ness'.
True. Lucas does have some great kill throws, but Ness can pull of his back throw kill at much lower percents than Lucas can. Ness does not have to work as hard for his throw kill, while Lucas needs to rack up some damage first.
Redgrave192 Yeah. One of my friends got salty that I beat him with some top-20 tier characters a bunch of times whilst he was playing as Rosalina and whined that my characters needed to be nerfed. I mean, seriously?
I secondary Lucas, and my main is Ness. My friends are terrified of my Ness. You can imagine their reaction to Lucas' reveal. After playing with him, they didn't think my Lucas would be as much of a threat. And then I saw this video. Thank you, My Smash Corner. Thanks to you, my Onett Onslaught and PK Powerhouse are going to destroy everything.
Thanks for this dude! I just uploaded a Lucas video all about his z-air today actually. I knew about the magnet lock setup, but the one with down air I hadn't thought of! Thanks!
Ive found at least on 3ds I can keep using the d-throw nair combo by jumping and right before I reach the highest arc of my first jump, jumping again, and then nairing.
Jack Trimboli I'm implying that Sepha has no fucking idea what he's talking about and is just repeating what he heard from Zero's salty Twitter rant on Lucario being "overpowered" and "rewards sandbagging"
BugCatcherWill Uh, but he DOES reward sandbagging, just focus on DI for the majority of a stock, and then once at a high percent, kill them with ridiculous knockback/damage.
My own combo I made up. D throw short jump neutral air try getting under them then footstool and quickly use psi magnet then side tilt walk up a little bit then side tilt again then where you're standing on the 2nd side tilt down tilt then do whatever you want. D smash,u smash.
I'm looking forward to the Roy Combo video you'll be putting up soon. Since Roy can IASA his FAir into any of his Specials. But its more useful to IASA his FAir into his Up B since it true combos into it. And his Neutral B makes a great edgeguarding tool.
Thanks so much for this video! I've been finding some combos out for Lucas myself, and most of these I wasn't aware of. Well, time to spend several hours trying to mimic this tech.
PokePacksNPlays A "sour" spot is a hitbox of an attack that deals less knockback and usually damage. Contrast sweetspots, which deal more damage and knockback when hit. Note this also isn't the same as a "strong" or "weak"/"late" hit, which refer to moves that have a lasting hitbox that are stronger if they hit early and are weaker if they hit later.
***** Uh that's what I said though. You mean Knee's late hit? Because yes that's also a thing, it has both. I didn't say they were mutually exclusive, just that they're different terms.
Where you at dude? Hands down you make the BEST SMASH TURORIALS. Always really really clear as to how/ what to do and when with top notch production quality videos. Hope all is well and look forward to the day you make any more videos about ANY Topic. CHEERS
My Smash Corner This one video was so well made and it has helped me so much that I subscribed on it alone. Thank You! Hope you make more lucas videos lol
I watched Apex and CEO. I don't see those players often. They don't go to big tournaments. I've only seen a couple of Dapuffster but I didn't see him footstool.
Yami That's not that much viewing experience, lol. I see footstools at big tournaments fairly frequently. Maybe you're not paying enough attention? Who knows, but obviously they're there and you're missing them..
My favorite opening combo is a simple one and is great for some quick damage: D-Throw Jump up for a N-Air 2nd jump for a second N-Air Then depending on where they go, do U-Air/B-Air/F-Air or if they're still close enough, you can use N-Air again You can usually get about 30 damage minimum
+Hello There I know this was 9 months ago but it isn't hard to footstool, just jump when you are above them that's all. Practice it on a grounded level 1 CPU
You forgot something pretty important, lucas' works the same why bowsre jrs dair does, if you're falling down and hitting the opponent and touch the ground during the attack animation, you will have no lag and the opponent will be directly in front of you still in hitstun. This is a really good way to confirm jabs, grabs, or even an f smash if you read the spot dodge or roll behind.
Hey! I can do the combos sometimes. I find it easier to do the magnet cancel. I am having trouble doing this against a mobile opponent, any tips? Also, my biggest problem is that I have a ton of trouble hitting the forth hit of d-air, any advice?
If you aren't close enough to get he fourth hit then try fast falling. If you are too close and get multiple hits wait a bit before starting the falling dair.
Infinites and 0-to-deaths won't bring Claus back. Neither will Lucas's Bair "L-Cancel into Wavedashing follow-up". "I'm going to where Mom is now." -Claus
Idk, I have a hard time preforming both... maybe I just am not good. But you can BELIEVE that I try as soon as they lose there invincibility frames after platform and at the start of the match. Why? Because I like to think I get better the more I do it... which (I would believe, is true. 😊
Final Shine actually, now I did. Let me tell you, rob actually makes a good lab punching bag in training mode for Lucas. So, whenever you want to test some wombo combo with Lucas, use rob! (Hopefully some beginners find this comment ^-^)
After getting re-acquainted with my Brawl secondary, I've found that it's possible to do a fastfall N-air to grab as well, but you have to grab as soon as you land. Without DI, you seem to be able to continue it for around 1-2 more strings.
Hey smash corner, I think you should do a general video about footstooling and how to set them up, as most combo videos of yours shows a lot of footstooling, and I can almost never get it to work. It would be cool to see some setups and techniques for successfully footstooling opponents.
One combo that i've found is when doing the PSI magnet combo, instead of fair, use bair and then they will get placed right behind you ready for a side smash
Lucas can also combo with a short hop nair with a fast fall If you hit them with the last hit, that won't work Hit them with the fourth hit, go to the ground, and execute with what ever you like. Also, it looks like it works on almost any percentage
I made up my own combo, but I only tested it with Marth. At around 30%, you can get a down throw and then immediately footstool him and lock him with the last hit of down air. You can extend the lock with a forward tilt, then wait for the on-spot getup, then use up tilt. Then you can double jump and footstool him again and lock him with the last hit of down air. Then you can simply finish the combo with an up smash.
MSC, I have lots of trouble getting the dair after the footstool. I do the dair, but momentum from the footstool keeps me going up, and my opponent gets of the ground. PLZ help, I really need advice. :- I
Msc, I have so much problem with this combo. when I do the footstool, sometimes I jump pretty high compared to other attempts. And everytime I hit last his of dair, they often jump out (computers) immediately. Then if they don't, I do the f-tilt sourspot as fast as I can but they just lie on the ground! they never go up like a lock force them to do... Is it because I do the dair to late or what? Please help me.
I was playing around and noticed that downthrow to a quick double jumb footstool is also possible, its easier to and the footstool but harder to land the locking hit though
The only combo my friend needs is standing by the edge, grabbing whoever comes near, then back throws them off the edge only to finish it off with his back air spike. So now my other friends and I are terrified of his Lucas.
I enjoy watching all of these video tutorials you do, I really do, but I hardly apply myself to use 'em or master them...I mean, I'm still struggling with Fox's double jab lock thing...
All the new DLC characters are so good, but Lucas is the most fun imo
IntroSpecktive Bro... uour so fucking right and you name a big reason why I main lucas!
Good choice
I'll spare you when the day comes
AAYYYYYYYYY
Look guys it ya boy introspecktive
Lyca for da win
"I'll be breaking down Lucas" You can't break him down more than his childhood did.
Looool
I know this comment is REALLY old, but that was actually a CLEVER dead mom joke.
Anyone else prefer Lucas over Ness? Don't get me wrong, Ness is great, and better competitively, but I just find Lucas more fun to play as, even if his competitive game isn't as strong as Ness'.
Ness just cant do any cool stuff imo. Lucas is more fun to play as
I prefer Lucas.
Skeltal Man I do
Skeltal Man yesss
He actually can be played competitively if you know how to play him, since he is my main and all.
So basically its Lucas The Combo King vs Ness The Backthrow Behemoth.
Weeeell Ness has combos too. But the back throw behemoth sounds nice =D
Roronoa Uchiha Well, the king of combos is going to be mad with Lucas's new nickname.
Ha, let him.
Roronoa Uchiha But Lucas has 2 good kill throws and a combo throw that can combo into a kill move (almost like a 3rd kill throw)
True. Lucas does have some great kill throws, but Ness can pull of his back throw kill at much lower percents than Lucas can. Ness does not have to work as hard for his throw kill, while Lucas needs to rack up some damage first.
Lucas has combos?
Better nerf grenin- wait he got buffed
Better nerf diddy kong
Jacob Baggett Giving Luma more health just _baffled_ me, "Let's buff the top tier character in the whole game", lolwat
Redgrave192 Yeah. One of my friends got salty that I beat him with some top-20 tier characters a bunch of times whilst he was playing as Rosalina and whined that my characters needed to be nerfed. I mean, seriously?
Robert Yang Wait Greninja got buffed? When? How?!
DarmanitanMan In your dreams, Fireboy.
Jacob Baggett No? HADOKEN!!!
"Today, I'll be breaking down Lucas-"
No need for, Miiverse already did.
+AblazeSky7 My English isnt perfect, sorry if I messed up the joke; but I am referring to the Claus posts on his Miiverse.
+AblazeSky7 he means "breakdown" meaning a Mental pain breaking a victims mind.
Perfect.
Shots fired... toward me as a Lucas main. why disrespect an already emotionally unbalanced child like Lucas. What the hell?!
+Jeffy Topaz I just made a joke. I cried just as hard when he was confirmed. I am also a dedicated Lucas main.
I felt like I was listening to rocket science.
Love the work you do bro! Thanks so much!
***** whoah I watch you undefeatable series! I didn't know you take tips from MSC(MySmashCorner)
***** Wut
Hey Ace!
Ace I just saw you on the last video I watched! Hi again!
***** Ya know in my tree in East Australia, about three trees away from yours
combos won't bring claus back
Damnn..... That was uncalled for :'(
it really was :[
They also won't bring back Hinawa
Tyler Gerardo Too far
***** Umm,, SPOILERS ALERT
I secondary Lucas, and my main is Ness. My friends are terrified of my Ness. You can imagine their reaction to Lucas' reveal. After playing with him, they didn't think my Lucas would be as much of a threat. And then I saw this video.
Thank you, My Smash Corner. Thanks to you, my Onett Onslaught and PK Powerhouse are going to destroy everything.
no one cares about you nor your casual friends lmfao
cedo2325 You seemed to care enough to comment.
Dan The Gengar ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Dan The Gengar Just ignore cedo. Whenever he comments, he just rants about Smash 4 and calls everyone a casual. No exceptions.
Dan The Gengar Holy shat same
"No you can easily tech a footstool!" - 1/4 of the Sm4sh Community.
Really cool ! I was searching for Lucas combo for my next video. This'll help us a lot :) Really good job discovering that !
No "My Splat Corner" as splatoon channel name? 2.8/10
I literally was just watching an old video of yours and thinking, " Upload something, dammit."
I can't do any of this but it is entertaining to watch!
Lol
***** Lol he has a Nintendo 64 and A Gamecube!
***** I love how he also owns a sonic, cloud, and pikachu figurines.
I love SU and I play Smash :D
I'm always happy to see a new video from you. Keep on doing this MSC!
Great work as always :)
Down Throw into Up-Air? HooHah 2.0? Good enough.
I thought R.O.B's Ho-Ha was called the Beep Boop?
Just imagine Lucas saying "Hoo Hah!" lol
Krissen The Fraud Footstool > Lock kills are WAY more stylish than a boring down throw > up air... but kill confirms are always awesome
Thanks for this dude! I just uploaded a Lucas video all about his z-air today actually.
I knew about the magnet lock setup, but the one with down air I hadn't thought of! Thanks!
Splatoon channel not called "My Splat Corner", 0/10
Nice vid here though! Keep up the great work!
@MySmashCorner
Is the Lucas 0-death guranteed on all characters with frame perfect timing?
+7 cross Not against floatier characters. But against others, yes, provided you react quickly enough to their DI.
+My Smash Corner Does the n-air footstool still work? The patch increased the dmg on his n-air but the final hit still has the same knockback.
+My Smash Corner Yo, since the buffs the lock combo got affected
lmao so old bro ik
how did it affect it?
Ive found at least on 3ds I can keep using the d-throw nair combo by jumping and right before I reach the highest arc of my first jump, jumping again, and then nairing.
I really needed this!
Never knew Lucas was this good :)
Will there ever be a Lucario video in the future?
***** The ignorance is strong with this one. Lemme guess, you follow Zero on Twitter?
BugCatcherWill implying that zero is ignorant??? Hes best the best player in the world, his opinions mean a lot
Jack Trimboli I'm implying that Sepha has no fucking idea what he's talking about and is just repeating what he heard from Zero's salty Twitter rant on Lucario being "overpowered" and "rewards sandbagging"
***** Ha, if only that worked.
BugCatcherWill Uh, but he DOES reward sandbagging, just focus on DI for the majority of a stock, and then once at a high percent, kill them with ridiculous knockback/damage.
Wow I'm early! Thank you My Smash Corner! This was one of my requests!
My own combo I made up. D throw short jump neutral air try getting under them then footstool and quickly use psi magnet then side tilt walk up a little bit then side tilt again then where you're standing on the 2nd side tilt down tilt then do whatever you want. D smash,u smash.
I'm looking forward to the Roy Combo video you'll be putting up soon.
Since Roy can IASA his FAir into any of his Specials. But its more useful to IASA his FAir into his Up B since it true combos into it. And his Neutral B makes a great edgeguarding tool.
the first hit of lucas' neutral air locks
Thanks so much for this video! I've been finding some combos out for Lucas myself, and most of these I wasn't aware of. Well, time to spend several hours trying to mimic this tech.
Winning won't bring Claus back
I just practiced Lucas for about three hours today. This guide will help even more!
i lost you on "today..."
My Smash Corner be like: *Footstools intensify*
It’s funny how Lucas has 5 moves that jab lock and none of them are jab
Can you update the list of jab resetting, I would really like to know what could be able to reset after the patch 1.0.8 thanks :)
What do you mean by "sour"?
PokePacksNPlays A "sour" spot is a hitbox of an attack that deals less knockback and usually damage. Contrast sweetspots, which deal more damage and knockback when hit. Note this also isn't the same as a "strong" or "weak"/"late" hit, which refer to moves that have a lasting hitbox that are stronger if they hit early and are weaker if they hit later.
Vulcapyro Actually Sourspots do apply for moves that have multiple hitboxes, most notoriously, Falcon's knee.
***** Uh that's what I said though. You mean Knee's late hit? Because yes that's also a thing, it has both. I didn't say they were mutually exclusive, just that they're different terms.
***** Knee is second most notorious. Luigi's up b is the most.
A Channel General sex kicks are notorious as well - Mario, Luigi, Fox, Jiggs, Yoshi nair, Wario fair etc.
Great video as always! I love Lucas xD
Can we get a Footstool guide lol
Bruh, a splatoon tech channel sounds hilarious for a game that I didn't expect to be played to a mechanical extend
Also awesome lucas tutorial btw
I can never land the dair! I can never hit because I'm too high, or I fall too fast and don't hit the last time.
I tend to do a down air, then footstool, instead of adding Nair. I can never get the neutral air, so I just don't do it. Will that work for you?
Blazing Kurama Thanks! It is easier to do now.
joshodude no problem, I'll always try to help a fellow Lucas main :)
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Where you at dude? Hands down you make the BEST SMASH TURORIALS. Always really really clear as to how/ what to do and when with top notch production quality videos.
Hope all is well and look forward to the day you make any more videos about ANY Topic.
CHEERS
The dislikes on this video are Ness mains.
From what i've learned with my friend.
All of Lucas' combo games revolve around predicting DI correctly.
That's really all it is to Lucas.
idk if you would answer but would you ever do a tutorial on how to deal with Cloud he's too good 😂
Zair with lucas against cloud. Before, i had problem against cloud player. its probably your shielding the main part of your problem
Am I talking to me I barely sheild😂 ig cloud has to versions of playing with him
Three words: Down Smash Edgeguard. It hits him too far sideways at the ledge for him to recover.
ToKe Dr. two words. Pk. Fire.
Pk freeze works to.
My Smash Corner This one video was so well made and it has helped me so much that I subscribed on it alone. Thank You! Hope you make more lucas videos lol
I don't know any competitive players footstooling on purpose.
Yami Dapuffster
Yami Sethlon
Yami Guess you should pay more attention to competitive Smash then
I watched Apex and CEO. I don't see those players often. They don't go to big tournaments. I've only seen a couple of Dapuffster but I didn't see him footstool.
Yami
That's not that much viewing experience, lol. I see footstools at big tournaments fairly frequently. Maybe you're not paying enough attention? Who knows, but obviously they're there and you're missing them..
damn bro you hit the lab hard on this. awsome video !
Am I the only one who thinks this guy sounds a bit like False?
Yes.
2:33 This... is... CRITICAL. Knowing Lucas's Zair, now Fox isn't my only For Glory Link option.
Unsurprisingly, you missed a ton of combos. Probably intentionally, since there are so many.
teach me sensei
My favorite opening combo is a simple one and is great for some quick damage:
D-Throw
Jump up for a N-Air
2nd jump for a second N-Air
Then depending on where they go, do U-Air/B-Air/F-Air or if they're still close enough, you can use N-Air again
You can usually get about 30 damage minimum
NinjaStar531 that's the beauty of Lucas my friend.
Ugh, I hate anything involving footstools.
+Sean Erignima so precise its not worth it
Agreed lol
+Hello There I know this was 9 months ago but it isn't hard to footstool, just jump when you are above them that's all. Practice it on a grounded level 1 CPU
You forgot something pretty important, lucas' works the same why bowsre jrs dair does, if you're falling down and hitting the opponent and touch the ground during the attack animation, you will have no lag and the opponent will be directly in front of you still in hitstun. This is a really good way to confirm jabs, grabs, or even an f smash if you read the spot dodge or roll behind.
Hey! I can do the combos sometimes. I find it easier to do the magnet cancel. I am having trouble doing this against a mobile opponent, any tips? Also, my biggest problem is that I have a ton of trouble hitting the forth hit of d-air, any advice?
If you aren't close enough to get he fourth hit then try fast falling. If you are too close and get multiple hits wait a bit before starting the falling dair.
I wanted to get back into lucas, but so far havnt felt him this smash, this helped a lot!
Infinites and 0-to-deaths won't bring Claus back. Neither will Lucas's Bair "L-Cancel into Wavedashing follow-up".
"I'm going to where Mom is now."
-Claus
This video helped a lot MSC. Thanks! ^^
With all these videos and techniques, he is probably a God at this game that never goes to tournaments.
Tip: I like to use the PSI magnet version of this combo at 0-5 percent. In my opinion, it is easier to do the down air version at 10-35%
Idk, I have a hard time preforming both... maybe I just am not good. But you can BELIEVE that I try as soon as they lose there invincibility frames after platform and at the start of the match. Why? Because I like to think I get better the more I do it... which (I would believe, is true. 😊
Jeffy Topaz Trust me, I was confused at first. Put 30 minutes and and I found out what made it easier for me. (You'll get it :D)
Final Shine actually, now I did. Let me tell you, rob actually makes a good lab punching bag in training mode for Lucas. So, whenever you want to test some wombo combo with Lucas, use rob!
(Hopefully some beginners find this comment ^-^)
Thanks for the tips I main lucas and you helped shine some light on his deadly combos.
Knowdlege is power, now i've been illuminated with the ligth of smash corner sensei. Thank you. Very Helpful :)
My Smash Corner can you do a tutorial on greninja combos and his/her 0 to death combo?
Totally gonna check out the new channel!
My GOD, that's a true 0-death. IceClimbernatti confirmed.
Also, My Smash Corner I'd love it if you could do a kirby video!
it's not true
If you di ur save
After getting re-acquainted with my Brawl secondary, I've found that it's possible to do a fastfall N-air to grab as well, but you have to grab as soon as you land. Without DI, you seem to be able to continue it for around 1-2 more strings.
I'm glad I bought him. I used Ness occasionally, but now that I think about it, Lucas is far better.
Up smash kill to Lucas jog (where you just run across the stage as Lucas) is a true combo
i love smsh 3ds itz like my teen childhoods and i have this urge to become one of smah 3 ds gods! thanks my smash corner!
This video was incredibly helpful, thanks!
Will you do a megaman combo video eventually? I know you did a video for glide tossing that has megaman in it.
This Lucas vid is really good. It will be useful for when I actually get Lucas XD
Hey smash corner, I think you should do a general video about footstooling and how to set them up, as most combo videos of yours shows a lot of footstooling, and I can almost never get it to work. It would be cool to see some setups and techniques for successfully footstooling opponents.
Unironically, this was the video that got me interesting in Lucas.
One combo that i've found is when doing the PSI magnet combo, instead of fair, use bair and then they will get placed right behind you ready for a side smash
This is why Lucas is my main since brawl, he’s so much fun, I can do these combos with ease and it’s so much fun to win with it!
Lucas can also combo with a short hop nair with a fast fall
If you hit them with the last hit, that won't work
Hit them with the fourth hit, go to the ground, and execute with what ever you like.
Also, it looks like it works on almost any percentage
Might pick up Lucas as one of my pocket characters then. Thank sir for the instructional video.
Dude all this stuff was useful! Thanks!
will u be doing a Roy (from fire emblem the one who is our boy) guide?
I glad that 2 years ago Lucas was a playable character because he was my main in brawl
did you happen to discover the lucas downthrow footstool from acestar? just wondering :^)
I made up my own combo, but I only tested it with Marth. At around 30%, you can get a down throw and then immediately footstool him and lock him with the last hit of down air. You can extend the lock with a forward tilt, then wait for the on-spot getup, then use up tilt. Then you can double jump and footstool him again and lock him with the last hit of down air. Then you can simply finish the combo with an up smash.
After a Side Tilt Lock, aren't you spaced enough for the edge of down tilt?
MSC, I have lots of trouble getting the dair after the footstool. I do the dair, but momentum from the footstool keeps me going up, and my opponent gets of the ground. PLZ help, I really need advice. :- I
Down throw-up tilt: works up from 0-30ish percent. Small trick I picked up.
Hey man, you can be proud of you for your hard work!
I have a question: How dou you spell ,,Zare"
Like this or how?
Wow. Didn't know Lucas had so much jab-lock potential. I'll start trying this out soon.
I think I've finally settled into Lucas/Roy/ROB mains.
Can you update the Jab-Lock tutorial list with the three new DLC characters?
Msc, I have so much problem with this combo. when I do the footstool, sometimes I jump pretty high compared to other attempts. And everytime I hit last his of dair, they often jump out (computers) immediately. Then if they don't, I do the f-tilt sourspot as fast as I can but they just lie on the ground! they never go up like a lock force them to do... Is it because I do the dair to late or what? Please help me.
Is the jab-lock combo also doable on the 3DS? I am finding it very difficult to perform it effectively.
Yes, it is perfectly doable on both but it may be harder on 3ds
For me its easier on 3DS and every time i use lucas i always do the footstool combo its pretty ez
8-Bit Maestro of course its on 3ds. The games work almost the exact same
So do I. I can confirm that it works, you just need to practice with factors like DI and platforms.
Thanks for the video, and in what place of the tier list do you think lucas is?
I was playing around and noticed that downthrow to a quick double jumb footstool is also possible, its easier to and the footstool but harder to land the locking hit though
The only combo my friend needs is standing by the edge, grabbing whoever comes near, then back throws them off the edge only to finish it off with his back air spike.
So now my other friends and I are terrified of his Lucas.
Can you please do a Game and Watch Up-Smash invincibility video or an Olimar Down-Special invincibility video??
All these videos are so amazing man! If only I could be good enough to pull it off :/
At earlier percents, Lucas can also follow his Dthrow into an Utilt. Pretty fun.
will you ever do a bowser combo vid?
I found that d throw to up tilt to nair works pretty well. Also d throw to pk freeze can work every time unless they jump.
I have recently found out that if you down smash while facing behind the opponent it will jab lock, however it is pretty hard to do.
There's one Lucas combo you missed, It goes like this: Down-Grab into a Up-Tilt and then a Up-Smash. Only works at low percentage though...
I enjoy watching all of these video tutorials you do, I really do, but I hardly apply myself to use 'em or master them...I mean, I'm still struggling with Fox's double jab lock thing...