12:52 What the narrator isn’t telling you is that Scottie & Horace were getting punked by the dirty boy pistons, MJ had to take his teammates under his wings and show them tough competition, he had to be an azz-hole in order to strengthen their mentality, that’s why they were finally able to get past the pistons, thanks to Jordan’s high standards for his teammates!!!
Bruh , believe me when I say that there has NEVER been a player like MJ ... Before or After. I watched him since his freshman year UNC. He would completely destroy today's players.
The ballhog thing early in his career is BS. He averaged more assists pre-Championships than he did once he started winning Championships. Both Jordan's points and assists decreased once they started winning. His efficiency stayed pretty much the same at around 50%. So saying he was a ballhog is inaccurate. You don't average 8 assists in a season as a ballhog.
Yes Jordan needed Pippen. But Lebron needs 3 to 4 All Stars to win and still fell short against The Mavericks. Then when Lebron doesn't win with 3 other All stars he blames everyone else besides himself.
I’m sorry, he did things then that people still can’t do. To this day he still holds the largest vertical leap in the NBA. I think some people just don’t realize how much a freak of nature Jordan really is.
Lmfao 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣! How many times does Michael Jordan have to say he couldn't have done it without Scottie Pippen? I've heard him say it many time's many time's!
I think you’re missing 1 important fact… Jordan only played with 1 All-Star his whole career. LeBron has played with how many? NVM LeBron has played like 20 years, created multiple super teams and only 4 rings? Can’t blame golden state….LeBron kicked off the super team era
Jordan has always openly acknowledged that the 6 championships would have never happened without Pippen. Even Jordan's Hall of Fame speech, he credits Pippen. No one disputes that.
See this video was good because these are the things I bring up when having these discussions. With LeBron fan’s because Jordan was different and they always talk about the losses in the beginning of his career. But even in those losses he was always the best player on the court. And i remember when the media used to criticize him about that the points the awards but they getting him nowhere regardless how hard he tried to pull off the win. But on the flip side people always said he needed help which was true. But it wasn’t until Phil became head coach that things changed for MJ. The reason why I say this is because he took the ball out of MJ hands got him to trust his teammates. And that they put the right pieces around him to fit the game plan in which Phil and Tex Ryan who invented the triangle offense was trying to run at the time. And it all came together in the end and as we see six championships. Once Jordan which the top he never fell off the mountain. No other superstar won in his era he didn’t share the spotlight with no one. And the things in this video is the reason he was regarded as the best ever. LeBron fan’s like to use that he lost but never talk about the teams he faced in the playoffs. Boston Celtics had five future hall of famers on that team. And I believe the pistons had future hall of famers to. And the bulls had no body but MJ and George gervin who getting old. So really it wasn’t and even fight but at the end of they lost. I dispute that them facts. but i remember the media used to always say he just need a little help to get over the hump. And once that help came he started winning. But I would like to say this if Jordan never would bought into the system that Phil was trying to run and if he never humbled himself. MJ wouldn’t have the success he had in the later years of his career in my opinion. That’s the reason LeBron will never which the status of MJ ever. Because he refuse to play team ball and try to run everything on the floor. And I blame the owners of every team he played for because they allow him to do this to there teams. LeBron just care about stats it’s not about the team he still chasing Jordan and he know he will catch him so the only thing he doing is trying to stack the odds in his favor at this point. Because majority will never see as the goat because of how he approached the game and cheated it.
Unlike LeBron who won 4 career rings by picking up his ball and joining the opposition to win those rings with the help of 7 or more great players, MJ beat his opposition and went 3-0 against the opposition with just Pippin. He didn't rely on the opposition, he beat the opposition. When he returned on the back end of his career they added Rodman, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper he picked up another 3-peat. LeBron was great (not so much at the free throw) MJ once won MVP, offensive player and defensive player of the year all in the same year.
Who’s ever narrated this video is not telling the full truth Pippen only guarded Magic part of that second game then Phil went back to Jordan on Magic for the rest of that series and everyone needs a good team and a good sidekick what would LeBron have won without Wade, Kyrie, AD,? 🤔🤷🏽♂️
I agree,he's doing a lot lying . Phil didn't just arrive in 90' . Phil was hired as an assistant coach to the Bulls in 87' and the architect of the triangle offense was teaching it to the Bulls since 85' when was hired two years before Phil. Right ,in the first game of the 91' finals Magic was cooking Pollen so Phil put Jordan on Magic for the rest of the series.
The thing I appreciate about Jordan is that he didn't go from team to team trying to play with superstars to win a title. Jordan constantly worked harder to improve his game. That's what I call the G.O.A.T.
MJ is the GOAT. It's not what you think, it's a fact. Get over it. He already has down everything in a much shorter career. He is the best an it's time we stopped talking about this stupid debate because there never was a debate to begin with. He's been retired for almost 25 years so just be quiet about it. And move on...
Every Star has a Co-Star -MJ and Pip -Shaq and Kobe -Lebron and Kyrie, Wade, Bosh, AD, Kevin Love etc.. -Kobe and Gasol -Steph and Klay -Bird and Celtics -Magic and Lakers
listening to LeFraud stans makes me chuckle, how is the biggest loser in NBA history the GOAT? A dude that never even dominated his prime when he stacked the shit out of his teams in order to do it all he could get was a back to back, every other star eat with LeTrafficCone was "dominating", he's been playing in the easiest era ever to score for almost 10 more years and he still has less 30 point games than MJ, but but but he's a pass first dude... well he still has way less assists than Stockton, he's a choking machine, a turnover machine and a god damn traffic cone in defense... I'm convinced that the only people who are fans of this garbage are the ones who never watch basketball but only watch the highlights, stats and media. Dude is horrible to watch, I legit cringe every time I watch a Lakers game (usually I watch them just to see him lose put 6 turnovers and have a +/- of -24, that sh!t makes my day) specially since the lakes have been my favorite team of all time for over 20 years and watching this bum ass cry baby destroy the franchise makes me just so mad.
This guy is a dope. It’s obvious MJ was more important. The bulls only got to the playoffs during the time he retired because he had instilled the mentality needed to succeed during the season and into the playoffs. Thing is without him they couldn’t win it all and when he returned they won again.
Lebron is not the most complete player and not even close. Lebron can't shoot free throws and is a liability on defense. Lebron has the ball in his hands the majority of the game and is not clutch.
ok 12:54 .. Lets Talk about this. (and I DONT LIKE SPORTS.. But watched Jordan play because he was so different.) Now you asked scottie or jordan... if you listened and look at the stats.. JORDAN is the BEST.. his stats proved it.. Yes its a TEAM sport and MJ learned it, BUT remember WHILE MJ didnt have the good enough teammates HE WAS PLAYING EVERY position... SO he didnt win also because HE couldn't be at every position at the same time.. Scottie and rodman HELPED him by letting him now not have to be the whole team.. so who is better.. Scottie will even tell you MJ.. So whe you sit and ask WHO IS THE GREATEST PLAYER of all times Its JORDAN.. he is the GOAT... Now if you ask WHO had the GREATEST TEAM it might not be the BULLS
Players don’t get beat up w fouls as MJ did. Players today have more of a lane because of the rule changes after MJ. More players def would’ve took more lanes
Let’s relax. Jordan played in the illegal defense era. He did get fouled a lot. But he definitely had plenty of one on one plays with no help defense like today. U had to commit to the double which left guys wide open. They just could not shoot as well as today. The 90s very similar to today’s game. A lot of iso ball. Just more bigs able to camp in the paint because the role players couldn’t score. If the bulls had shooters around mj like Hakeem had in 93, they would look like pretty much every team on the league today. Mj woodbe had a wide open lane and plenty of shooters to kick to if they doubled.
ReDawg let me see your reaction to Jordan vs LeBron: This is the best comparison I've ever seen. ruclips.net/video/tl3mR6eoEa8/видео.htmlsi=BjI-tXGhR8e7gk9p
How u going to have a title like this with the words or nah smfh then going to say he not aging well that ain't got shiiii to do with his game n he had to b a ball hog his teammates was trash can but his passing was was elite u heard the man say when he played pg for 11gms he had 10 trip dubs out of 11 which is amazing he a shooting guard so he aint supposed to pass key word SHOOTING guard...the GOAT an it aint even close lebum not even top 10
They might be doing them now but it's a hand full of people and they can't do what jordan done. They may do some of it it takes 5, 6, 7 together to do what he did by his self
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12:52 What the narrator isn’t telling you is that Scottie & Horace were getting punked by the dirty boy pistons, MJ had to take his teammates under his wings and show them tough competition, he had to be an azz-hole in order to strengthen their mentality, that’s why they were finally able to get past the pistons, thanks to Jordan’s high standards for his teammates!!!
All the Lebron fanboys have NO IDEA what MJ did for this sport he was bigger than life
Bruh , believe me when I say that there has NEVER been a player like MJ ... Before or After. I watched him since his freshman year UNC. He would completely destroy today's players.
FACTS!
Amen
Exactly Pippen didn't win a championship when he left
He had his chance to do it since MJ retired
He didn't pass the ball until teammates prove they would make the shot
I never watched Basketball until MJ came into the league. And haven’t since he left.
The ballhog thing early in his career is BS. He averaged more assists pre-Championships than he did once he started winning Championships. Both Jordan's points and assists decreased once they started winning. His efficiency stayed pretty much the same at around 50%. So saying he was a ballhog is inaccurate. You don't average 8 assists in a season as a ballhog.
If it wasn't Jordan, then why didn't the Bulls win a championship when Jordan had retired?
Yes Jordan needed Pippen. But Lebron needs 3 to 4 All Stars to win and still fell short against The Mavericks. Then when Lebron doesn't win with 3 other All stars he blames everyone else besides himself.
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I was born in 93 and remember like you said when jordan did something it was breaking news
in '87 averaged 35 points a game and won defensive player of the year and MVP.....but he didn't win anything until Scottie?
That was in 88. In 87 he averaged 37 per game. Insane
Anything that says Lebron is the Goat is like reading the National Enquire for news.
I’m sorry, he did things then that people still can’t do. To this day he still holds the largest vertical leap in the NBA. I think some people just don’t realize how much a freak of nature Jordan really is.
Phil didn't arrive in 1990 .He was hired as an assistant in 87'.
Lmfao 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣! How many times does Michael Jordan have to say he couldn't have done it without Scottie Pippen? I've heard him say it many time's many time's!
I think you’re missing 1 important fact… Jordan only played with 1 All-Star his whole career. LeBron has played with how many? NVM LeBron has played like 20 years, created multiple super teams and only 4 rings? Can’t blame golden state….LeBron kicked off the super team era
Love the reaction @Red Dawg
Jordan has always openly acknowledged that the 6 championships would have never happened without Pippen. Even Jordan's Hall of Fame speech, he credits Pippen. No one disputes that.
See this video was good because these are the things I bring up when having these discussions. With LeBron fan’s because Jordan was different and they always talk about the losses in the beginning of his career. But even in those losses he was always the best player on the court. And i remember when the media used to criticize him about that the points the awards but they getting him nowhere regardless how hard he tried to pull off the win. But on the flip side people always said he needed help which was true. But it wasn’t until Phil became head coach that things changed for MJ. The reason why I say this is because he took the ball out of MJ hands got him to trust his teammates. And that they put the right pieces around him to fit the game plan in which Phil and Tex Ryan who invented the triangle offense was trying to run at the time. And it all came together in the end and as we see six championships. Once Jordan which the top he never fell off the mountain. No other superstar won in his era he didn’t share the spotlight with no one. And the things in this video is the reason he was regarded as the best ever. LeBron fan’s like to use that he lost but never talk about the teams he faced in the playoffs. Boston Celtics had five future hall of famers on that team. And I believe the pistons had future hall of famers to. And the bulls had no body but MJ and George gervin who getting old. So really it wasn’t and even fight but at the end of they lost. I dispute that them facts. but i remember the media used to always say he just need a little help to get over the hump. And once that help came he started winning. But I would like to say this if Jordan never would bought into the system that Phil was trying to run and if he never humbled himself. MJ wouldn’t have the success he had in the later years of his career in my opinion. That’s the reason LeBron will never which the status of MJ ever. Because he refuse to play team ball and try to run everything on the floor. And I blame the owners of every team he played for because they allow him to do this to there teams. LeBron just care about stats it’s not about the team he still chasing Jordan and he know he will catch him so the only thing he doing is trying to stack the odds in his favor at this point. Because majority will never see as the goat because of how he approached the game and cheated it.
He would still be the goat even with less than 6 ships
Unlike LeBron who won 4 career rings by picking up his ball and joining the opposition to win those rings with the help of 7 or more great players, MJ beat his opposition and went 3-0 against the opposition with just Pippin. He didn't rely on the opposition, he beat the opposition. When he returned on the back end of his career they added Rodman, Steve Kerr, Ron Harper he picked up another 3-peat. LeBron was great (not so much at the free throw) MJ once won MVP, offensive player and defensive player of the year all in the same year.
Who’s ever narrated this video is not telling the full truth Pippen only guarded Magic part of that second game then Phil went back to Jordan on Magic for the rest of that series and everyone needs a good team and a good sidekick what would LeBron have won without Wade, Kyrie, AD,? 🤔🤷🏽♂️
I agree,he's doing a lot lying . Phil didn't just arrive in 90' . Phil was hired as an assistant coach to the Bulls in 87' and the architect of the triangle offense was teaching it to the Bulls since 85' when was hired two years before Phil. Right ,in the first game of the 91' finals Magic was cooking Pollen so Phil put Jordan on Magic for the rest of the series.
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Are you imagine larry bird magic jonson and michael Jordan playing in the same team.🎉🎉🎉🎉
Every great in team sports has some kind of supporting cast. LJ had/s the same. Support
The thing I appreciate about Jordan is that he didn't go from team to team trying to play with superstars to win a title. Jordan constantly worked harder to improve his game. That's what I call the G.O.A.T.
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MJ is the GOAT. It's not what you think, it's a fact. Get over it. He already has down everything in a much shorter career. He is the best an it's time we stopped talking about this stupid debate because there never was a debate to begin with. He's been retired for almost 25 years so just be quiet about it. And move on...
Every Star has a Co-Star
-MJ and Pip
-Shaq and Kobe
-Lebron and Kyrie, Wade, Bosh, AD, Kevin Love etc..
-Kobe and Gasol
-Steph and Klay
-Bird and Celtics
-Magic and Lakers
People act like those other players weren't super athletes
listening to LeFraud stans makes me chuckle, how is the biggest loser in NBA history the GOAT? A dude that never even dominated his prime when he stacked the shit out of his teams in order to do it all he could get was a back to back, every other star eat with LeTrafficCone was "dominating", he's been playing in the easiest era ever to score for almost 10 more years and he still has less 30 point games than MJ, but but but he's a pass first dude... well he still has way less assists than Stockton, he's a choking machine, a turnover machine and a god damn traffic cone in defense...
I'm convinced that the only people who are fans of this garbage are the ones who never watch basketball but only watch the highlights, stats and media. Dude is horrible to watch, I legit cringe every time I watch a Lakers game (usually I watch them just to see him lose put 6 turnovers and have a +/- of -24, that sh!t makes my day) specially since the lakes have been my favorite team of all time for over 20 years and watching this bum ass cry baby destroy the franchise makes me just so mad.
Agreed the flopping gets me every time MJ would never!
LMAO !!!!
This guy is a dope. It’s obvious MJ was more important. The bulls only got to the playoffs during the time he retired because he had instilled the mentality needed to succeed during the season and into the playoffs. Thing is without him they couldn’t win it all and when he returned they won again.
Yeah he lost the Boston he was the only player on the team in Boston have five Hall of Famers
They actually had six hof'ers .....their starting 5 and their 6th man of the year Bill Walton.
You take it wrong. all these now admired players got their fame only because of one guy who always did what he had to do
You need to watch the one where he was on the wizards
Lebron is not the most complete player and not even close. Lebron can't shoot free throws and is a liability on defense. Lebron has the ball in his hands the majority of the game and is not clutch.
It's another false narrative spewed out by "klutz" sports and the lying sports media.
Without him there is no iverson, Kobe etc… they developed there game around MJ
ok 12:54 .. Lets Talk about this. (and I DONT LIKE SPORTS.. But watched Jordan play because he was so different.) Now you asked scottie or jordan... if you listened and look at the stats..
JORDAN is the BEST.. his stats proved it.. Yes its a TEAM sport and MJ learned it, BUT remember WHILE MJ didnt have the good enough teammates HE WAS PLAYING EVERY position... SO he didnt win also because HE couldn't be at every position at the same time.. Scottie and rodman HELPED him by letting him now not have to be the whole team.. so who is better.. Scottie will even tell you MJ.. So whe you sit and ask WHO IS THE GREATEST PLAYER of all times Its JORDAN.. he is the GOAT... Now if you ask WHO had the GREATEST TEAM it might not be the BULLS
Players don’t get beat up w fouls as MJ did. Players today have more of a lane because of the rule changes after MJ. More players def would’ve took more lanes
Let’s relax. Jordan played in the illegal defense era. He did get fouled a lot. But he definitely had plenty of one on one plays with no help defense like today. U had to commit to the double which left guys wide open. They just could not shoot as well as today. The 90s very similar to today’s game. A lot of iso ball. Just more bigs able to camp in the paint because the role players couldn’t score. If the bulls had shooters around mj like Hakeem had in 93, they would look like pretty much every team on the league today. Mj woodbe had a wide open lane and plenty of shooters to kick to if they doubled.
ReDawg let me see your reaction to Jordan vs LeBron: This is the best comparison I've ever seen. ruclips.net/video/tl3mR6eoEa8/видео.htmlsi=BjI-tXGhR8e7gk9p
Gotcha I can get this one up tomorrow afternoon.
Here it is...anything else you want me to react to lmk!
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How u going to have a title like this with the words or nah smfh then going to say he not aging well that ain't got shiiii to do with his game n he had to b a ball hog his teammates was trash can but his passing was was elite u heard the man say when he played pg for 11gms he had 10 trip dubs out of 11 which is amazing he a shooting guard so he aint supposed to pass key word SHOOTING guard...the GOAT an it aint even close lebum not even top 10
You're wrong. People still are not as insane as Jordan and I always hated him.
They might be doing them now but it's a hand full of people and they can't do what jordan done. They may do some of it it takes 5, 6, 7 together to do what he did by his self
You call him a ball hog if you seen the way the other players shout the ball you would have took a shot to
It don't take a dumb ass to figure out jordan couldn't win by his self neither did anybody else. If he could win by his self why pay other players