My favorite fight on this show. I maintain my theory that Infinity Ultron was allowed to exist instead of having his universe erased, because he was meant to happen in order to encourage the creation of the Guardians of the Multiverse.
To be fair if Ultron was actually a threat The Living Tribunal would probably step in and delete him. Or the TVA could probably pop in, freeze him, then take him in and dissolve him in the anti-robot metal detector looking machine.
Technically according to comic book lore, the stones don't work outside their own universe, so using the stones to beat him up across the multiverse was impossible
@@xandervogel8638 the Stones only stop working if they're outside of time, reality and space themselves. Plus, they're integrated into Ultron itself, who alters reality within and around him like an invasive species.
Mcu infinity stones work different, as long as they are in a universe or a nexus of universes like the one shown , they would work . They simply don't work inside the TVA
Someone here theorized like Ultron evolved into something similar to God, the Stones did as well, becoming multiversal like it. I think that's the most logical explanation, because we have seen the Stones are implied to possess a certain degree of sentience.
yes but they made them only work in there original universe to stop the logical problems of multiversal travel it means infinitestones will never face off so they dont have to figure out what would happen you also only have to worry about securing your own stones not all of infinitely imagine infinite stone welders running around the multiverse @IwakuraYumeko7
The Watcher mostly observes the Marvel multiverse. But, can he observe beyond that ? If he wanted to, could he look at the Omniverse (DC term refering to the multitude of MULTIverses).
@@pokebreederrichard1200so, theoretically, there could be a Watcher for DC, one "Nier/Drakengard", one for "Kingdom Hearts", one for "Evangelion" one for "Naruto", etc. ? There's an anime called "The Grimm Variations". I like to think the three narrator characters of that show are like the Watchers of the stories/worlds they observe.
If Ultron wants his version of a perfect universe that serves as an example to others/stands tall above the others, why doesn't he do what Darkseid did with his Absolute universe ? Sure beats genocide.
If there's a Watcher assigned to every Multiverse across the Omniverse, then I like to believe the Grimm Brothers from the anime "The Grimm Variations" are their own Multiverse's Watchers.
@@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon Except the Stones shouldn't work outside of his Universe. The second he went into The Watcher's relam he should've been weaker.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 The director of What If...? made it very clear they're not following comic book rules here, and thus, the stones work outside they're native universe.
Someone here theorized like Ultron evolved into something similar to God, the Stones did as well, becoming multiversal like it. I think that's the most logical explanation, because we have seen the Stones are implied to possess a certain degree of sentience.
I mean, the Mind stone is clearly like unto a brain in itself, so it would make sense that at the very least with the infinite feedback loop the stones already produce, and the hyper advanced AI + body of Ultron, it could create itself to be something better that itself, thus surpassing their previous abilities
For everyone talking about Ultron's universe being destroyed or not, u are drastically forgetting that all these events exist after Loki S2. (Make this the top comment ot inform everyone)
"oh anythings possible in a multiverse" with that logic couldn't there be an ultron who was more powerful than this, so powerful it's capable of winning this fight and destroying every universe, just something to think about
Infinity Ultron attacking the Watcher is like attacking the comic book reader. It's borderline impossible. That's breaking the 4th wall and shattering it
Watcher: "No I mean this Literally shouldn't be possible. Infinity Stones aren't supposed to work outside of their universe. You should just be a supped up robot in guady armor. "
My theory behind the whole "Oh tHe StOnEs dOn'T WoRk oUt oF ThE TiMeLinE" is that Ultrons entire thing was evolution. He evolved from form to form, with his grand evolution being to that of a god. After his god-like power, what was left for there to evolve into? He was basically a god, had the power of the entire universe, he evolved into a multi-versal being. And guess what was constantly connected to him? The infinity stones. I believe that as much as he used them, and he was tied into their power, they evolved with him to become more than normal infinity stones.
Well, I'm pretty sure. That whole thing is just a misconception. Infinity Stones work outside their home universes, just they don't work in the TVA. And people interpretted that as infinity stones don't work outside their own universe
People well versed in the Multiverse ? Two questions: -What are the most underrated alternative universes in both Marvel and DC ? -That handicapped Spider-Girl in "Across the Spiderverse"...What's her name ?
@JabamiLain cause she had some really bad comics that people didn't like for being really woken up and just bad in the first place. They did like the appearance in spider verse tho.
@@bigman5823 I know we have Professor X, but seeing a handicapped hero actually throw hands is a rarely seen level of cool. Plue, she is a different character from Peter, from a different universe. Doesn't make much sense.
The watcher feels underpowered just to sell an amazing 2-sided fight. Not to mention they used the logic of Gamoras machine couldn't destroy his realities infinity stones but by that logic his infinity stones shouldn't work outside his home universe 😅
Considering what happened to Infinity Stones in the TVA, I would've thought that Ultron would have lost most of his power when he left his own reality.
Ultron and Watcher, enters the Deadpool universe. Ultron: You will not stop me, Watcher. You will die here- Deadpool: HEY! Watcher and Ultron, turns to the stranger in red spandex. Deadpool: You're not supposed to be in this movie set yet! Grabs subtitles and smacks both Watcher and Ultron out from his universe. Wolverine, eating a taco: Who were those clowns? Deadpool: Oh, just cosmic beings being cosmic beings. Wolverine: Oh, so who are they really. Deadpool: "Just a bunch of clowns." Wolverine, shrugs and enjoys his taco.
The watcher fight was one of the best fight scene in the show but he's not using his teleportation powers for combat not very often. He could've just abuse it and teleport Ultron all of the place while beating the shit of him.
so, how would this ultron do against darkseid, considering he was able to break the rule of the stones being unable to work outside the universe they're from
infinity ultron is a great villain. but wouldnt it make more sense that if something is able to break the multiversal barrier and get to the space between stories, that would give him free pass to exert as much power as he needs to to take care of the threat?
My only issue with this is that the infinity stones don't work outside their main universe meaning Ultron wouldn't be able to fight the Watcher it go outside his universe
There is something that doesn’t seem right in these “what ifs” which is the fact that the infinity stones are shown to not work outside of their own universe. As seen with the Loki series.
Marvel MCU really does fuck everything up and make it confusing. In the comic, they stated that the stones is useless when they are out of there origin Universe. ( The council of Reed stated that). At the end of the fight in this what if series Gamora and Ultron also stated that. Then how can he be using them in all different universe or even able to access the multiverse. Also, the Watcher is powerful enough to lock Evil Strange in a pocket dimension, Evil Strange can go toe to toe with Ultron just slightly weaker. Then how can the Watcher get his ass handed to him?
The director of What If...? made it very clear they're not following that rule. Gamora and Ultron never said the stones don't work outside their universe.
But.. infinity stones are paper weights.. if they go out of their respective universe they lose their power and these two have been brawling through the multiverse right?..
Anything is possible in a multiverse, Kang to still be the big bad=No Have more crossovers from old franchises into the MCU=No only one or two films worth To see the conclusions to all these stories you set up= FUCK NO! Sony's universe to have a Spider-Man=Not Up to us.
Did the watcher actually swear an oath? Or is he just making that his catchphrase? “I mustn’t, I swore an oath!” “Oh hey it’s Uatu again, who is it this time buddy?”
“You cannot compute the power of my will” goes so unnecessarily hard
No, it was *_completely_* necessary
I dont know if this applies to other people
But putting will and hard together is very funny to me
Fr
Meanwhile, Hal Jordan: I don't even know what will is
😂
Scp pfp straight flames in the tunnel
"I didn't evolve by staying inside the lines."
Ngl as much of a bad guy he is, thats a good saying
True.
No one liner quite like a villain one liner
No it’s not a good saying
My favorite fight on this show.
I maintain my theory that Infinity Ultron was allowed to exist instead of having his universe erased, because he was meant to happen in order to encourage the creation of the Guardians of the Multiverse.
I think the watcher lost the fight on purpose because he is not allowed to intervene
@@incycloidblitz569 but then, why would he fight at all ?
@@Angelus_The_Red_Dragonso Ultron doesn't kill him 😭🤣
I think not a single thought went into wether or not the Loki-Story and the What If-Story could even exist in the same multiverse.
@@CeptermanI think that’s been proven, since the writers for different shows and movies had very little, if any, communication between them
Ultron successfully attacked and nearly killed the narrator
Cameraman shaking in his boots
Haahahaaha 😂😂
Plot? What plot
The camera man never dies
Camera man can not be defeated tho, it's what the source has ruled
Cameraman may be unable to die, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be beaten, scarred, crippled, and driven insane…..
Rare footage of a marvel character being more powerful on the screen than on the pages... Yes Uatu, I'm talking about you
Uatu looking through the multiverse just to find this comment
@@Boba-Fett32who tf is Uatu ?
@@lawson176 Uatu is The Watcher (the guy fighting Ultron)
@@randomguy3162 they got names I thought they were all just called the watcher / watchers
To be fair if Ultron was actually a threat The Living Tribunal would probably step in and delete him. Or the TVA could probably pop in, freeze him, then take him in and dissolve him in the anti-robot metal detector looking machine.
"You can not compute the power of my will"
Ultron: *proceed to compute the power of his will*
Indeed I did. It was very minimal, less than a megabyte in size.
@@TheUniversalDestroyerUltron what are you doing here?
Technically according to comic book lore, the stones don't work outside their own universe, so using the stones to beat him up across the multiverse was impossible
Like he just said in the clip. Anything is possible inside a multiverse. Even stones that work outside their universe.
@@xandervogel8638 the Stones only stop working if they're outside of time, reality and space themselves.
Plus, they're integrated into Ultron itself, who alters reality within and around him like an invasive species.
Mcu infinity stones work different, as long as they are in a universe or a nexus of universes like the one shown , they would work . They simply don't work inside the TVA
Someone here theorized like Ultron evolved into something similar to God, the Stones did as well, becoming multiversal like it. I think that's the most logical explanation, because we have seen the Stones are implied to possess a certain degree of sentience.
yes but they made them only work in there original universe to stop the logical problems of multiversal travel
it means infinitestones will never face off so they dont have to figure out what would happen
you also only have to worry about securing your own stones not all of infinitely imagine infinite stone welders running around the multiverse
@IwakuraYumeko7
"Oh But anything is Possible In Multiverse™" I swear to god they gonna make it a trademark for a marvel movie
it’s basically the excuse to get away with any sort of writing. Good or bad
@@Beebok_BeebopOriginally it was pretty much an excuse to get away with so many plot holes because so many writers were writing the comics
Bro other watchers be like Damn this is some good shit
The Watcher mostly observes the Marvel multiverse. But, can he observe beyond that ? If he wanted to, could he look at the Omniverse (DC term refering to the multitude of MULTIverses).
yea, assuming they can get the licensing and make up a good enough story lol
@@Robodude212 so...only if Marvel editors allow it, or if any other Multiverse becomes entangled with the Marvel Multiverse.
I think one watcher is assigned to a multiverse, and they answer to someone above them who is able
@@pokebreederrichard1200so, theoretically, there could be a Watcher for DC, one "Nier/Drakengard", one for "Kingdom Hearts", one for "Evangelion" one for "Naruto", etc. ?
There's an anime called "The Grimm Variations". I like to think the three narrator characters of that show are like the Watchers of the stories/worlds they observe.
It stood out to me that Ultron said "anything is possible in A multiverse" implying there are multiple multiverses
"I think you'll find that our will is equal to yours"
"You cannot compute the power of my will"
If Ultron wants his version of a perfect universe that serves as an example to others/stands tall above the others, why doesn't he do what Darkseid did with his Absolute universe ? Sure beats genocide.
he never met darkseid
@@LewislfI know. This was an attempt at a joke.
Well Darkseid has heart and soul
@@JabamiLain mine was a worse attempt 🤣
@@Lewislfwe're so bad, we're good. 😂😂
i hope the galaxy tasted good
Yumby
Taste like dirt
milkyway
Probably tasted like nougat, caramel, and milk chocolate.
The fact that the Watcher was holding back shows how strong he is
Watching the watcher throw hands with ultron was insane
I love how "compute" is a word that gives so much flex when you talk to an AI
If there's a Watcher assigned to every Multiverse across the Omniverse, then I like to believe the Grimm Brothers from the anime "The Grimm Variations" are their own Multiverse's Watchers.
i would have actually loved it better if the watcher had beaten the crap out of the ultron, cause hes a literal god
So is Ultron, with the Stones.
to quote the watcher "I'm not a God, and neither are you"
@@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon Except the Stones shouldn't work outside of his Universe. The second he went into The Watcher's relam he should've been weaker.
@@Angelus_The_Red_Dragon But plenty of times it is shown that having all stones doesn't get you anywhere close to being the strongest/most pwoerful
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 The director of What If...? made it very clear they're not following comic book rules here, and thus, the stones work outside they're native universe.
This show was absolutely amazing
My boy just *CRONCHED* an entire galaxy
I thought that was Galactus at his hungriest😂
If Ultron found the TVA instead of the Watcher, everyone would be doomed
Maybe not. The stones don't work in the TVA.
i think this took place after season one
Someone here theorized like Ultron evolved into something similar to God, the Stones did as well, becoming multiversal like it. I think that's the most logical explanation, because we have seen the Stones are implied to possess a certain degree of sentience.
I mean, the Mind stone is clearly like unto a brain in itself, so it would make sense that at the very least with the infinite feedback loop the stones already produce, and the hyper advanced AI + body of Ultron, it could create itself to be something better that itself, thus surpassing their previous abilities
Heh, you used to word logical to describe marvel bs😂
@@88HELLJUMPER88as logical as possible, that is. There are always rules that are common in the Marvel multiverse.
I love fights like this just showing how powerful both opponents are to the point of shattering dimensions it just looks so cool
I think his thinking is correct. He sees all this suffering without helping any being.
“I didn’t evolve by staying inside the lines” goes unreasonably hard…
This fight scene was almost better than Obi Wan vs Darth Vader on Disney plus
Bro Ultron always has the best lines.
Definitely some of the best to come from the multi-verse saga.
This fight is one of the best ever. Just absolutely love it
Most powerful being like Watcher,Evil Strange and Thanos are having a hard time when fighting 6 stone user.
Meaning while Kong hold my beer😎.
Kong wouldn't last a second :p
Who the fuck is Kong, the big ass monkey?
Evil strange god bodied by Captain carter and that one girl although to be fair he was putting up a decent fight
@@TooobContseason 2 finale was a crime against this series.
I think you got it wrong.....
Did you mean:
Meanwhile us: fine I'll do it myself *deletes/erase Ultron's data
For everyone talking about Ultron's universe being destroyed or not, u are drastically forgetting that all these events exist after Loki S2. (Make this the top comment ot inform everyone)
"oh anythings possible in a multiverse" with that logic couldn't there be an ultron who was more powerful than this, so powerful it's capable of winning this fight and destroying every universe, just something to think about
loved when ultron ate the galaxy
Infinity Ultron attacking the Watcher is like attacking the comic book reader. It's borderline impossible. That's breaking the 4th wall and shattering it
This fight is literally the biggest thing I’ve ever seen
Bros sounds like zamasu and is doing project zero mortals
No camera man needed. Ultra carries his tripod for moments like this.
Bro actually went toe-to-toe with the full infinity gauntlet.
Bro ate the galaxy like a pie 😂😂
Watcher: "No I mean this Literally shouldn't be possible. Infinity Stones aren't supposed to work outside of their universe. You should just be a supped up robot in guady armor. "
The fact that this was a possibility in the main universe still baffles me 😮
After hearing the watcher saying "RUN" offscreen, i need to see the rest
if me I would bring him to the TVA
I cant intervene... Says the guy who is essentially known for intervening...
My theory behind the whole "Oh tHe StOnEs dOn'T WoRk oUt oF ThE TiMeLinE" is that Ultrons entire thing was evolution. He evolved from form to form, with his grand evolution being to that of a god. After his god-like power, what was left for there to evolve into? He was basically a god, had the power of the entire universe, he evolved into a multi-versal being. And guess what was constantly connected to him? The infinity stones. I believe that as much as he used them, and he was tied into their power, they evolved with him to become more than normal infinity stones.
@@0_Knightmare I like this interpretation.
Well, I'm pretty sure. That whole thing is just a misconception. Infinity Stones work outside their home universes, just they don't work in the TVA. And people interpretted that as infinity stones don't work outside their own universe
My man just ate the entire galaxy lol
People well versed in the Multiverse ? Two questions:
-What are the most underrated alternative universes in both Marvel and DC ?
-That handicapped Spider-Girl in "Across the Spiderverse"...What's her name ?
Sun-Spider
@@EvilLobsterKingthank you. I hear she was hated for being handicapped. Why ?
@@JabamiLain because some sad people have nothing better to do than hate on things that dont affect them
@JabamiLain cause she had some really bad comics that people didn't like for being really woken up and just bad in the first place. They did like the appearance in spider verse tho.
@@bigman5823 I know we have Professor X, but seeing a handicapped hero actually throw hands is a rarely seen level of cool.
Plue, she is a different character from Peter, from a different universe. Doesn't make much sense.
The ultron using himself as armor is sick
Nice invincible reference there with the multiverse punches
The watcher feels underpowered just to sell an amazing 2-sided fight. Not to mention they used the logic of Gamoras machine couldn't destroy his realities infinity stones but by that logic his infinity stones shouldn't work outside his home universe 😅
“I cannot intervene” DUDE HES IN THE 4th wall FIGHT HIIIIM
“The truth is often seen as impossible, especially by the foolish.”
Do wish he pointed out Ultron doesn’t want peace, he wants silence
Considering what happened to Infinity Stones in the TVA, I would've thought that Ultron would have lost most of his power when he left his own reality.
This makes you realize how kind Thanos was
The watcher not losing but running and his speech makes it sound like he could defeat Ultron if he tried but he cant directly do it himself
I wonder how crazy Ultron would be if he was made to be an average human life form.
Yall dont get it, ultron was pressing THE WATCHER. HES LITTERALLY BEATING THE CAMERA MAN💀
WHAT IF is a goated show
Has this Vision Vision ever broken the Fourth Wall.
This is how Possible Tony Stark can be
Give this man a green lantern ring
Watcher: you cannot compute the power of my will.
Proceeds to get whooped by ultron
God level battle ❌
Battle Against A God ✅
He got beat by an old 1900s AI somehow
Honestly watchers right those stones should never have worked outside there intended universe
Ultron and Watcher, enters the Deadpool universe.
Ultron: You will not stop me, Watcher. You will die here-
Deadpool: HEY!
Watcher and Ultron, turns to the stranger in red spandex.
Deadpool: You're not supposed to be in this movie set yet!
Grabs subtitles and smacks both Watcher and Ultron out from his universe.
Wolverine, eating a taco: Who were those clowns?
Deadpool: Oh, just cosmic beings being cosmic beings.
Wolverine: Oh, so who are they really.
Deadpool: "Just a bunch of clowns."
Wolverine, shrugs and enjoys his taco.
😅For a guy who watches, he sure knows how to fight.
A universes infinity stones hold no power in another universe, and the power of the infinity stones is of the weakest caliber in the cosmic realm
If anything is possible then nothing is, because there'll always be something that cancels whatever may happen.
So God's a fight with punches and kicks?
I forgot that Ultron almost ate a freaking universe?!?!💀
And then Marvel/Disney retconned to make infinity stones useless outside of their own universe (see Loki).
The watcher fight was one of the best fight scene in the show but he's not using his teleportation powers for combat not very often. He could've just abuse it and teleport Ultron all of the place while beating the shit of him.
Tony made a monster here
so, how would this ultron do against darkseid, considering he was able to break the rule of the stones being unable to work outside the universe they're from
I thought the stones outside their own universe were just essentially shiny rocks
The watcher could just teleport ultron to the tva 😂
Infinity stones shouldn't be able to work outside of the reality they originated from. 😭
infinity ultron is a great villain. but wouldnt it make more sense that if something is able to break the multiversal barrier and get to the space between stories, that would give him free pass to exert as much power as he needs to to take care of the threat?
Man, this should've been big caps, the infinity stones don't work out of their own continuity.
My only issue with this is that the infinity stones don't work outside their main universe meaning Ultron wouldn't be able to fight the Watcher it go outside his universe
Cosmic power= Fist fiiiiiight 📢📢📢
This was always really cool but i never understood how this was the biggest threat when theres other characters that are above the infinity stones
All they had to do is make cool alternate scenarios but instead we got this
All he does is watch... why is he a target to ultron making peace 😂
Infinity ultron already see the watcher but cannot see the cameraman and us
I swear he sounds like zamasu from dragon ball
There is something that doesn’t seem right in these “what ifs” which is the fact that the infinity stones are shown to not work outside of their own universe. As seen with the Loki series.
The director of What If...? made it very clear they're not following that rule. The TVA just happens to be a rather special place
Marvel MCU really does fuck everything up and make it confusing. In the comic, they stated that the stones is useless when they are out of there origin Universe. ( The council of Reed stated that). At the end of the fight in this what if series Gamora and Ultron also stated that. Then how can he be using them in all different universe or even able to access the multiverse. Also, the Watcher is powerful enough to lock Evil Strange in a pocket dimension, Evil Strange can go toe to toe with Ultron just slightly weaker. Then how can the Watcher get his ass handed to him?
The director of What If...? made it very clear they're not following that rule. Gamora and Ultron never said the stones don't work outside their universe.
Haha. Infinity armor vs infinity ultron. Still some anime fan was into this and animated their fanfiction
Except for the fact that stones dont work outside their own universe.
When you don't have a TVA
Kirby crackle goes brrrrrr
Did i do it right? I'm just getting used to the modern lingo.
But.. infinity stones are paper weights.. if they go out of their respective universe they lose their power and these two have been brawling through the multiverse right?..
If they go out of time and space, then they're useless, but since they're in the multiverse the stones still work
@@deadbread2449Yeah, the TVA is outside time & space, so that's why they are paper weights there. Right?
Anything is possible in a multiverse,
Kang to still be the big bad=No
Have more crossovers from old franchises into the MCU=No only one or two films worth
To see the conclusions to all these stories you set up= FUCK NO!
Sony's universe to have a Spider-Man=Not Up to us.
Me in blox fruits minding my own business:
Did the watcher actually swear an oath? Or is he just making that his catchphrase? “I mustn’t, I swore an oath!” “Oh hey it’s Uatu again, who is it this time buddy?”
Bro did obama voice this guy? Cuz i swear he sounds exactly like obama
When the pro beats the admin:
1 set of infinity stones should not give Ultron or anyone else that much power, certainly not enough to exceed the Watcher.