10 Cinematic CHORD PROGRESSIONS (To use in your own music)

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
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    In this video, I show you 10 of the most widely used Chord Progressions used in Hollywood Soundtracks, Movie Trailers and Video Game Music. These progressions are used frequently by composers such as Hans Zimmer, Brian Tyler and Two Steps From Hell. You will then be able to take these Chord progressions and apply them to your own music, providing inspiration when creating your tracks.
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  • @elyzius7725
    @elyzius7725 7 месяцев назад +36

    The 10 Timestamps
    1:42 1. vi IV I V (epic)
    2:21 2. I V vi IV (pop)
    2:54 3. I IV vi V (heroic)
    3:26 4. vi I V ii (sad)
    3:57 5. vi iii V II (somber then uplifting)
    4:35 6. Vi IV V iii (sad)
    5:04 7. vi IV V II (inspiring and uplifiting)
    5:35 8. I IV ii V (moving forward on the journey)
    6:04 9. I iii V II (uplifting)
    6:33 10. ii IV vi V (majestic and soaring)

  • @jfcomposition
    @jfcomposition 3 года назад +113

    If you would have uploaded 10 years before i wouldnt break my brain for years. On point, well explained.

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  3 года назад +7

      Thanks watching - I hope you enjoyed it!

    • @jfcomposition
      @jfcomposition 3 года назад +2

      @@composingacademy8270 i really do ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 2 года назад +1

      I know it's a small thing, but thank you for not saying "would of".

    • @DaveTaste
      @DaveTaste 2 года назад +1

      @@SynthApprentice should of though

    • @tonyr.4778
      @tonyr.4778 6 месяцев назад

      It took you ten years to figure out simple chord progressions?! 😮

  • @MasterKnutA
    @MasterKnutA 2 года назад +17

    I've been playing piano for 22 years, and today I learned about the roman numbers 😶
    Guys, believe in yourself 😂👏🏼 There is hope

  • @ducxandy9889
    @ducxandy9889 3 года назад +79

    Progression 1: Literally all Illenium songs. Avicii - Wake Me Up
    Progression 2: Mike Williams - Bambini
    Progression 4: Mike Williams x Brooks - Jetlag
    Progression 5: Bigman - Get Tired Of My Love, Bigman - Confused
    Progression 6: Martin Garrix, David Guetta - So Far Away, Maurice West - In The Zone
    Progression 10: Daft Punk - Get Lucky, Dubvision - Keep My Light On, Brooks - ID (Loneliness)

    • @TheBarOst
      @TheBarOst 2 года назад

      thank you very much!

    • @lorenzoamaro1335
      @lorenzoamaro1335 Год назад +7

      5 is more recognisably as Time of Inception

    • @mucknog
      @mucknog Год назад

      True, shows how unimaginative electronic music really is.

    • @lexruptor
      @lexruptor Год назад +6

      @@mucknog On the contrary, it shows how creative it is. All music is stolen, but it takes creativity to break that limitation and make something new out if it

    • @paulhope8045
      @paulhope8045 Год назад

      Even music has patterns and designs and we as humans connect to it universally. Minor chords are sad throughout all kinds of people. Major chords feel happy and blissful for everyone too. Music is a language of the soul and is not bound by territories.
      God had made it for the purpose of reaching out to us even when His word, the bible has not reached us yet.

  • @Siriusb27
    @Siriusb27 2 года назад +29

    Progression 1 to my hears sound minor, it is the famous I ; VI ; III ; VII used in lots of music of the aeolian minor
    Progression 4 is natural minor too (Im ; III ; VII ; IVm)
    Progression 5 is dorian with a F# in the D chord which is the raised sixth of the mode
    Progression 6 is again natural minor (Im ; VI ; VII ; Vm)
    Progression 7 is dorian (Im ; VI ; VII ; IV)
    Progression 9 can be interpretated either in G major (IV ; VIm ; I ; V) or C major with a raised fourth which is the lydian mode in C
    Progression 10 is dorian (Im ; III ; Vm ; IV)

  • @squeakD
    @squeakD Год назад +3

    This is a great video for budding musicians looking to get into composing cinematic scores for film. Those 10 chord progressions can provide endless material just for the composition of ostinatos alone. I wish vids like this existed when I started composing cinematic music.

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  Год назад +1

      Hi, thank you for watching and your positive feedback, it is very much appreciated.

  • @TrickArrow
    @TrickArrow 3 года назад +4

    This was great. Super straight to the point and easy to follow.
    Thanks for this!

  • @mikeysplayhouse1971
    @mikeysplayhouse1971 3 года назад +3

    This is FANTASTIC! One of the most useful channels so far.

  • @erastudio8097
    @erastudio8097 13 дней назад

    just by one topic i learn 10+ things. thank you sir

  • @SonOfManMusic
    @SonOfManMusic Год назад

    I enjoyed following along by playing the chords before I heard them on the video. It's a fun way to discover progressions lying within the fretboard. Your videos are very informative. Thanks for them.

  • @soundsfortoday3623
    @soundsfortoday3623 Год назад +1

    This ia a great video. Prefer seeing the chords using keys than in DAW format, since I don't use DAWs. Will definitely refer back to this channel!

  • @handfarts
    @handfarts 3 года назад +8

    Progression 1 takes me straight to to the Lord of the Rings.....
    Progression 7 straight to the 90s and happy hardcore
    Good memories. Thanks for a superb explanation; I have clicked that subscribe button.

  • @NatureRecordsChannel
    @NatureRecordsChannel Год назад +7

    Gonna use these. Thanks. 5:15 is just beautiful.

  • @andreasl3974
    @andreasl3974 6 месяцев назад +1

    The progressions with D are dorian mode progressions. Dorian mode is used frequently on film music. Using dorian mode progressions with dorian scale is so good

  • @echoesofthefuture5811
    @echoesofthefuture5811 2 года назад

    This is a really great channel, when I keep getting RUclips adds for amazing midi chord packs! You can see from this amazing and straight forward video you don't need any midi chord packs! Just great RUclips videos like this.

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад

      Haha yes that is true! Those chord packs might have a few more chord progressions, but you can't beat learning the knowledge for yourself so you can use your own progressions as well!

  • @robotbarbarian
    @robotbarbarian 2 года назад +15

    Great video! Love how it’s very concise. Most all of these chords/progressions sound similar so I’m wondering if all 10 progressions can be interchangeable and/or used together

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад +10

      Thanks! Yes as I kept them within the key of C major (or Aminor), then it would be very easy to interchange them and use them together. You could also change key with them as well, so instead of C major, you could play them in G major instead

  • @MrProteusink
    @MrProteusink 3 года назад +4

    Straight forward, no bullshit, no ads. . Perfect!

  • @jimrogers7425
    @jimrogers7425 2 года назад

    Thanks so much for this video. Your channel is a treat to watch and learn from. Cheers!

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад

      Hi Jim, thank you so much for watching and for your kind words. I'm glad the content is proving useful!

  • @issiewizzie
    @issiewizzie Год назад

    This is the best explanation ever seen in terms of making things simple to understand. You shall be rewarded greatly.

  • @iWhy_Music
    @iWhy_Music 3 года назад +1

    Respect man for such content, ur channel is rare gem on youtube!

  • @matrixate
    @matrixate 2 года назад +2

    This was helpful and inspiring. It's like to see more of this.

  • @dankelly4984
    @dankelly4984 Год назад +1

    These simple examples really got me thinkjng of chord progressions in a different way. Very nice.

  • @FlowElectron
    @FlowElectron 3 года назад +6

    I have definitely heard some of these in films before, good video

  • @WDSCRNRAD
    @WDSCRNRAD 2 года назад

    Love this. Had ago at doing my first score myself

  • @freecadantibugs8697
    @freecadantibugs8697 2 года назад +1

    You are an amazing instructor.

  • @edgarsnake2857
    @edgarsnake2857 9 месяцев назад +1

    Simple and effective. Cinematic and impactful. It doesn't need to be difficult to be moving emotionally. Thanks.

  • @jim476a
    @jim476a 4 месяца назад +1

    Very helpful! I've been using your chord progression videos for my own music. Your comentary is direct and easy to follow.
    Would you be able to do similar chord progression videos geared toward pop music? I'd REALLY steal from them.

  • @nickmuzekari6124
    @nickmuzekari6124 2 года назад +5

    Super excited to have found your channel. This is perfect for someone like me who is just beginning the journey of cinematic composing. Sub'd and can't wait to dive into your content. Thank you!

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад +1

      Many thanks for your kind words-I hope you find the content useful and please do not hesitate to let me know if you have any questions!

    • @nickmuzekari6124
      @nickmuzekari6124 2 года назад

      @@composingacademy8270 Great, thank you, will do!

    • @nickmuzekari6124
      @nickmuzekari6124 Год назад

      @@composingacademy8270 After having spent some dough on paid courses, I'm actually coming back to your channel. It's that good and I realize there's so much here to learn from. Thank you and hope to continue to see content from you!

  • @j.veroni
    @j.veroni 2 года назад

    Thank you. The way you put this across was very concise.

  • @GreenHope42
    @GreenHope42 3 года назад

    Thanks for the music theory refresh. Nice explanations.

  • @stakolachook2581
    @stakolachook2581 3 года назад

    Thanks! Keep ’em coming..you earned a sub!

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    @noahslack9794 Год назад

    Glad I found this channel definitely subbing I like your teaching style very clear and descriptive

  • @BoogieBear
    @BoogieBear Год назад

    Another excellent tutorial, thanks Simon 🙏

  • @Markrspooner
    @Markrspooner 3 года назад +3

    Great intro to chord progressions!

  • @ameenapatel5319
    @ameenapatel5319 3 года назад +2

    Whaaaa these are popular pop chords I want some interesting advanced cinematic chords

  • @masihadasmusic2981
    @masihadasmusic2981 Год назад

    I m playing in church so I v to learn from you ....thank u for wonderful lesson

  • @clydesight
    @clydesight 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent! Thank you very much! Am now subscribed.

  • @joseferro1432
    @joseferro1432 Год назад

    Great Video! I really enjoy and learn from all your videos. I did notice you use different inversions on some of the chords. Am I correct to assume you used them to create better melodic content or movement?

  • @Dangzag
    @Dangzag 2 года назад

    Nicely done, very helpful video. Thanks!

  • @ksmithreps1
    @ksmithreps1 2 года назад

    Great lesson, thanks for sharing!

  • @canlee7818
    @canlee7818 3 года назад +2

    This Channel is so underated! I'm not able to understand how this channel can only have 200 Subscribers

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  3 года назад

      Thank you! Your comment is humbling to read!

    • @canlee7818
      @canlee7818 3 года назад

      @@composingacademy8270 Wow you made about 500 subs in 2 months, you deserve it

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      @darotm7628 Год назад

      @@canlee7818 on 24k a year later

  • @tatarin-1982
    @tatarin-1982 Год назад

    Fire tutorial.... More and more strings, violins, chord progression.... Please!

  • @brianhanington470
    @brianhanington470 3 года назад

    Love it. Thank you!

  • @shidohasugami9878
    @shidohasugami9878 Год назад

    Thank u for this! this actually helped me a lot! 🙏

  • @MrMalmsuite
    @MrMalmsuite Год назад

    Very useful!. Thank you and greetings from Spain.

  • @ravivpinhas9740
    @ravivpinhas9740 Год назад

    This is such a useful channel!!! Thanks you!

  • @5966ramesh
    @5966ramesh Год назад

    Superb. Explained in a very Simple and easy way. Thanks Simon.

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  Год назад +1

      Glad it helped, thank you again!

    • @5966ramesh
      @5966ramesh Год назад

      @@composingacademy8270 Absolutely. Thank you so much Simon

  • @senseimoon4853
    @senseimoon4853 Год назад

    thanks - great ideas, will use immediately

  • @AterrMD
    @AterrMD 3 года назад +17

    It's weird why this channel has so little subscribers and views. It's a very useful info and visuals. Liked and subscribed. Hope to see more videos in future like this one.

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  3 года назад +4

      Thanks so much for your kind words and for Subscribing!

    • @mikeysplayhouse1971
      @mikeysplayhouse1971 3 года назад +1

      They don't want anyone to know this their "secret sauce. " That's why. They think they are keeping it to themselves and out awesoming everyone...

  • @tobydegard147
    @tobydegard147 Год назад

    Great info. Glad I found your site.

  • @allanmacuser
    @allanmacuser Год назад

    thank you for your help since having a slight stroke l have forgot many chords but back into getting my keyboards to make some kind of sense lol
    regards
    Allan UK

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  Год назад

      Hi Allan, I am sorry to hear you have been unwell but so pleased that you are found the video useful. I wish you the best of health & happy composing!

  • @tonesstudio1821
    @tonesstudio1821 2 года назад

    Thanks very insightful that it's got my subscription

  • @FabianKreutzerSound
    @FabianKreutzerSound 2 года назад +1

    Very helpful, thanks mate.

  • @TheArmanito
    @TheArmanito Год назад

    Continue to do your work and you will be rewarded for your deeds ❤

  • @happysinha
    @happysinha 2 года назад

    Thanks for this video ........... very informative straight to the point ......love from Ind ❤️ +1subs

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад

      Thanks so much - I'm glad you enjoyed it! Greetings from the UK!

  • @mikolajfilipmusic
    @mikolajfilipmusic 2 года назад

    Very helpfull. Thanks!!!

  • @minggnim
    @minggnim 3 года назад

    Very informative. Thanks.

  • @MrMikomi
    @MrMikomi 2 года назад

    Not sure about your assignment of Roman numerals for four-chord progressions without the I chord. But some interesting ideas for unusual song starters (for me) nonetheless. Thanks.

  • @masihadasmusic6788
    @masihadasmusic6788 2 года назад

    Thank u sir very nice taeching

  • @user-sm3uc8wf6r
    @user-sm3uc8wf6r 2 года назад +5

    Turns out Hans Zimmer used the progression 5 in his "Time" soundtrack for Inception :D

  • @Martinbeef
    @Martinbeef 2 года назад

    Very helpful!!

  • @widelens5551
    @widelens5551 Год назад

    Excellent

  • @Meadowcroftsound
    @Meadowcroftsound 2 года назад

    So helpful, thank you so much! Please do more of these! What instrument/synth were you using for this demonstration? It sounds epic! 🎼🎙🎧🎤🎶

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching! If I remember rightly, Strings were Cinematic Studio Strings, Albion One for the Brass and Metropolis Ark 1 for the Choir

    • @Meadowcroftsound
      @Meadowcroftsound 2 года назад

      @@composingacademy8270 thanks so much for the reply, I'll check those out!

    • @echoesofthefuture5811
      @echoesofthefuture5811 2 года назад

      @@composingacademy8270 Wow that's an expensive combination, but also best vst out there. I love Albion One, I think its the best thing Spitfire created.

  • @GabrielleDriessen
    @GabrielleDriessen 6 месяцев назад

    Amazing! Do you have videos about amazing progressions in minor keys?

  • @handwoundpickups6555
    @handwoundpickups6555 Год назад

    Great thanks 👍

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  Год назад +1

      I am pleased you are finding my videos useful! Appreciate the comments, thank you!

  • @vuto8089
    @vuto8089 3 года назад +1

    great video man

  • @sovietanimations6838
    @sovietanimations6838 3 года назад

    Nice video hope you'll have bigger audience

  • @camelCased
    @camelCased Год назад

    This is a great source for the starting point. The next step would be to take one of these progressions and modify some chords to become sus or extended.

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  Год назад

      Absolutely! I love inversions as well, which can another element of variation to a chord and progression

  • @woahmojo
    @woahmojo Год назад

    very helpful thank you

  • @SamoylovaAlisa
    @SamoylovaAlisa 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you:)

  • @Trash-Beats
    @Trash-Beats 2 года назад

    Just subscribed want to learn theory thank u sir 🙏

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад

      Thanks so much for the subscription! More theory videos coming out soon - watch this space!

  • @arpeggioblues5924
    @arpeggioblues5924 8 месяцев назад

    In all of the progressions that end with a V/V (ie in C: the ii chord becomes the V chord of the key of G, which is the V chord of C:) it gives it this AVATAR feeling, from that film.
    COOL

  • @alibandani3871
    @alibandani3871 Год назад

    Thanks 🙏

  • @RunawayTV
    @RunawayTV 3 года назад

    thank you so much

  • @Himmom
    @Himmom Год назад

    Great help for osinato

  • @nchangcute2539
    @nchangcute2539 3 года назад +1

    Wow. It sounds like war movie score soundtrack

  • @fabthefab75
    @fabthefab75 10 месяцев назад

    Chosen inversions are crucial too in order to convey the uplifting or downlifting moods. If you try other ones, then the feeling is gone althought the chords are C major too. My two cents.

  • @olegkornilov7164
    @olegkornilov7164 2 года назад

    Спасибо. Все просто и понятно.

  • @wong4728
    @wong4728 2 года назад

    World class explanation is far too mild to describe what you have done. This is one of the most important video I have come across, don’t worry I just subscribe.

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад

      Oh wow thank you so much for your kind words! Thank you for the subscription!

  • @ncz_music5208
    @ncz_music5208 3 года назад +1

    One more follower ❤️❤️

  • @HynekRozkovec
    @HynekRozkovec 2 года назад

    Great video and also great string/choir sound. Where is it from?

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад +1

      Thank you! If I remember rightly, it was Cinematic Studio Strings and Metropolis Ark 1 for the choir

  • @strider5151
    @strider5151 2 года назад

    ❤️🔥

  • @HeadlessBuddah
    @HeadlessBuddah 3 года назад

    The moment he played the second progression I sung Let it Be even though that's not even in my top 50 Beatles songs and haven't listened to it in years(not sure it's the right one though).

  • @berserker2551
    @berserker2551 Год назад

    Very nice Channel :3

  • @pejmanjamilpanah3678
    @pejmanjamilpanah3678 11 месяцев назад

    What kind of instruments did you use to playback the chord progressions?
    it seems It’s not just Strings
    So what kind of instruments/librarys are they?
    thank you
    Best regards

  • @emanuellandeholm5657
    @emanuellandeholm5657 Год назад

    Currently watching Kingsman - The golden circle, and I keep hearing this progression which I've identified as "i VI IV". Eg. Am F D.
    It's such a cliché progression for the super hero genre. I tried googling "i VI IV" and all I got was links explaining the axis progression which has f all to do with anything. Google is just so broken these days.
    Glad I found your channel via another google and I'm kind of relying on one of your viewers to help me out here! :D

  • @user-xz5mh2ev2e
    @user-xz5mh2ev2e 2 месяца назад +1

    Wouldn't it be better if the chords of Am F C G (the first progression) is written as i VI III VII?

  • @usernamedenied1881
    @usernamedenied1881 3 года назад

    2nd one I heard Pet Shop Boys straight away, not sure what song, I'm not a fan but I recognized it 😅

  • @CrazyMusician
    @CrazyMusician Год назад

    Hi, thanks for this great value content!
    A question: if the progression start with Am, it Is always a progression based on the Major scale or i can (must?) use the relative minor scale?

    • @antoniozimmerman7767
      @antoniozimmerman7767 Год назад +1

      If the progression uses a G that functions as a dominant, you should use the Major scale. If the progression uses a chord containing G# (like an E7) then you should probably use the relative minor scale. There is a lot of interesting music that presents a level of ambiguity and it must be analyzed on a case by case basis.
      Saludos

    • @CrazyMusician
      @CrazyMusician Год назад

      @@antoniozimmerman7767 thanks for your Replay. But if i use G with a natural minor scale? There is an ambiguity. Right?

  • @raulbondarev1160
    @raulbondarev1160 3 года назад

    You did a really great job by doing this video. Many thanks. I was enjoying watching this one. From Russia with love. Could you tell me what the strings library did you use?

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  3 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it-if I remember rightly I used the long strings from from Albion One and Cinematic Studio Strings layered together

  • @marcopej
    @marcopej 2 года назад

    Great! Thank you! ...Now a question: what controller do you use? I see something interesting on you desk...... I'm looking for a controller (more for modulation, expression, tremolo...than for mixing...). Thank you!!

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад

      Its called a Kenton Control Freak. Its my oldest piece of gear and I think discontinued now. To be honest its a little overkill for my needs as I usually only use 3 of the faders for modulation, expression and main volume, but the faders feel great and cover a lot of distance! Something like this might be worth it though www.etsy.com/listing/958536053/midi-controller-xl

    • @marcopej
      @marcopej 2 года назад

      @@composingacademy8270 Thank you!!!

  • @johnlowe3050
    @johnlowe3050 Год назад

    Am em g d.....straight to cubase and build a track.

  • @robinsoninnocent9912
    @robinsoninnocent9912 2 года назад

    Hello Sir,
    Could you please teach about playing "counter melody" techniques?
    Regards,
    Robinson Innocent.

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  2 года назад +1

      Hi Robinson, many thanks for the suggestion. Its a great idea and I will add it to my list! Thank you!

  • @LaurinaHawks
    @LaurinaHawks 3 года назад +1

    Now you have one subscriber more.

  • @andymacc
    @andymacc Год назад

    Thank you. What is your studio chair called as it seems so popular and mine squeaks but, can’t seem to find one online?

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  Год назад

      Its called a Aeron by Herman Miller - I suffered from back ache from sitting down too long, so decided to invest in a good chair - it hasn't disappointed!

  • @andrzejmandryka
    @andrzejmandryka 2 года назад

    Very nice video, but I've got one question. Why do you always in connection IV - V make paralell fifths? I know, that this is only simplified record of progressions, but, in my opinion it is really disturbing.

  • @SoundFriendly
    @SoundFriendly 3 года назад +1

    Great info. You could have addressed the embelishments as well

    • @composingacademy8270
      @composingacademy8270  3 года назад +1

      Great point - thanks for watching though!

    • @SoundFriendly
      @SoundFriendly 3 года назад

      @@composingacademy8270 you can always make another video 😁 great info anyhow and always a good refresher.

  • @martinmc0950
    @martinmc0950 2 года назад +1

    4:11 *inception flashbacks*

  • @jybinu
    @jybinu 2 года назад

    Hi can anyone please explain how does a chord progression work without the I Chord or the tonic chord. This is the first time I've come across such progressions in my life. Any help with developing insight into this concept will be much appreciated.

    • @BellsCuriosityShop
      @BellsCuriosityShop 2 года назад

      It would have tonality of tonic chord. If it ends up with tonality of anything else it will be more like a mode.

    • @antoniozimmerman7767
      @antoniozimmerman7767 Год назад

      Progression 5, actually is a little bit misleading. It's better to think about it as: ii vi I V (in G Major).

  • @Lasidar
    @Lasidar Год назад

    Maybe a stupid question... but do these translate to minor keys? I.e. can I take I-V-vi-IV which is meant for a major key, and use i-v-VI-iv, or is it not quite so simple?

    • @LohPro
      @LohPro Год назад

      sure, the only thing changes though is the tonal center. in I-V-vi-IV, the chords revolve around I as the tonal center. In i-v-bVI-iv, the chords revolve around i as the center. melodies will often resolve to whichever tonic root the center is.
      however, if you take the chords from the first progression you ask about (ie; I-V--vi-IV), the chords would translate to (bIII-bVII-i-bVI) in the natural minor.