I was stationed at takli Thailand in 1966 on the crash recovery squadron of the 105s,,b66s or whatever else that landed on the runway. Was just 19 then, I'm 76 now. Damn still remember all that.
I was a crew chief stationed at korat AFB Thailand on f 105's at this time. My commanding officer colonel William cooper was killed flying a bombing mission over Hanoi in April 1966.
@@jerryrobinson5163 No, he’s not a communist piece of shit, he’s lower than the pile of diarrhea coming out of a sick elephant. I bet if you were talking to a Vietnamese, he would say that his commander was killed in a dog fight defending Hanoi. Then the two of you would raise a glass and salute to comrades long gone.
Sad story...of course this film and countless others were made as morale boosters for those in uniform and propaganda for those (read Congress) who were civilians. Many dedicated and brave American aviators were ''sacrificed' on the altar called "Rolling Thunder" (in those days). Massive losses of expensive aircraft and irreplaceable aircrews to try to achieve no strategic and very limited tactical objectives (post-strike recce often as not showed roads, truck parks, bridges, depots, rail junctions, etc repaired and back in service within the day. '
An old tale...A young NVA soldier straps 3 large mortar rounds to the frame of his bicycle and pushed it hundreds of miles down the Ho Chi Minh Trail to a point in South Vietnam. Along the way, he battled choking dust, deep mud, rugged terrain, biting insects, and the ever-present threat of aerial ambush. Upon arriving at his destination, he looked on in satisfaction as the three mortar rounds were fired at the Imperialist running dogs. The military commander patted the the young soldier on the back, then told him, "Thank, you comrade. Now go back and bring three more shells." How could we have achieved victory against determination like that, based on the rules of engagement in play?
You should see documentaries with ex-VietCong about this stuff, apparently some guerrillas were so scared that they deserted back to Hanoi for a few days before rejoining the fight on the frontlines. "When the Americans [took fire from the forest], they eliminated the forest" - PBS Ken Burns' The Vietnam War.
I was 16 years old then, I was more into girls and never thought that I would be there in 69 with the first Marine Division... All these years has gone by sometimes it feels like it was just been a dream being over there, but I wouldn’t change a thing…I got hurt in Vietnam and the marine corps have taking good care of me ever since…
@@BobJones-dq9mx semper fi ...my father in law was in the navy a officer he was in electronic warfare he designed a radar to jam the norths radar that helped in bring down migs over north Vietnam he got a Metal for it...I can’t remember what kind it been so long ago...OoHARH..
respect to both of you. I'm 23 now and couldn't imagine fighting when I was 18. My grandfather was an ATC and volunteered to be a Huey door gunner to give the other boys a break. Lost him 2 years ago from cancer
Correct. The F-105 was one of the primary attack aircraft of the Vietnam War; over 20,000 Thunderchief sorties were flown, with 382 aircraft lost including 62 operational (non-combat) losses (out of the 833 produced).
My hat goes off to the 105 drivers especially during Operation Rolling Blunder. They would risk pilots and planes to hit the same targets over & over again and the majority where already destroyed in the first attacks.
I guess the public could have waited it out till 1968 but that was the limit. Anyone with a brain had to know that if we didn't win quickly this was going to be a loser. Just too many casualty's with the unfair Draft.
I have been to Laos and seen the continuing results of the cluster bomb drops. It was not worth sending highly skilled US pilots to move bits of mud around and leave huge amounts of unexploded ordnance that are still killing and maiming people today. The people of Laos did not deserve this.
Cool film pointing out the futility of this type of bombing campaign. You blow a hole in an unpaved road one day, and the hole gets filled back in within hours. Notice how many "truck parks" and "storage areas" are bombed. More often than not, there was nothing there. The pilots just dumped their bombs and called it a day. The only way to interdict the Trail would have been to invade and occupy. This is the main source of our defeat there, as we were not willing to do that. If we weren't willing to do what it took to win, we should never have fought.
American engaged wars are not fought to actually be won by anyone, they are fought to make select individuals more wealthy with arms contracts. People in the know invest in the companies just before the contracts are officially awarded. This is true.
When they say that they bombed a truck park actually what they bombed was nothing but trees. I talked to a pilot when I was over there that flew those missions and he told me most of the times when they were on those type of interdiction flight they hit nothing but trees
The weapons manufacturers and oil tycoons made a killing on weapons and fuel sales while the US tax payers paid and still are paying for this war. Meanwhile the politicians and bankers also profited by printing and loaning money creating debt and interest to pay for the weapons. The more bombs dropped the more money they made, even if the bombs did not even hit any target and hit “trees”, it kept the demand for more weapons ongoing. Most tax payers then and now have no clue how this war buisness is operated and how they the tax payer is responsible to pay for the all of the costs of all military campaigns.
yep, it was designed for nuclear strike missions, many F-105 Pilots had never before dropped iron Bombs or conventional Bombs. This big bird even achieved air vics vs nimble MiG-17 but nearly half of the F-105 prod. run was lost during the Vietnam war, this number incl comabat losses and ( non combat) operational losses.
If one wants to see shootdowns of B-52s and others , one has to watch the north-vietnamese clips on RUclips! The USAF or Pentagon have of course copies in their archives but dare not show them to the public. The same for QPVN (Vietnam Ministery of Defense): it never shows this clip on RUclips!
@@TamNguyen-nl1cf Cộng sản miền Bắc quá ngu nên đã nghe lời giặc Tàu xâm chiếm Và giết hại dân lành. Bây giờ giặc Tàu âm thầm thống trị Cộng sản và một ngày không bao xa giặc Tàu sẽ chiếm Việt Nam không tốn một viên đạn. Hãy thức tỉnh đi đồng chí.
@@2011tmh lời bạn nói tôi nghe chục năm trước rồi. Dat nước thong nhất doc lập day là diều to tien và nhan dân ước mơ. Dừng bịa chuyện ra nữa bạn ơi. Xúi giục cho nhan dân do mau rồi rước ngoại bang vào nữa hay sao. Ai danh Trung Quốc thì mọi người cũng da thấy rồi.
@@TamNguyen-nl1cf Lời nói củ mấy chục năm rồi nhưng vẫn chưa tỉnh giấc. Hãy ra thành phố Nha Trang sẽ thấy đang trở thành thành phố Tàu đấy bạn. Tàu đánh cá của người dân không được bảo vệ ngoài biển.... Bó tay!
Because for starters, these gun camera films were shot in 1966. The first A-7D built for the Air Force did not make its first flight until 1968, entered squadron service in 1970, and were first deployed to Vietnam in 1972 just prior to Linebacker II. Navy A-7As didn’t enter the Vietnam War until December 1967. During this time, F-105s were flying roughly 75% of all missions in N. Vietnam and Laos during this time. By the time of the 1968 bombing halt, nearly half of the F-105 fleet was lost and F-4s took their place.
We were bombing peasants! It is amazing how resilient and productive they were. Repairing the damage, regrouping and bringing the fight south. How in the world did we lose this war? I understand the political reasons, but this should have never been in doubt. Technology doesn't always win.
What was not appreciated, nor understood that the North Vietnamees communists hated the Chinese communists even more than the south. So much for the dogma that a domino effect would see the whole of SE Asia under communist rule. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but what was learned in Iraq,
60nours You young punk kid, why don't you get off your mommies couch playing all your video games,, and get your mother to drop you off at the local library instead of watching tv. all day or being on the internet, and educate yourself on the real facts of what really happened in thease wars! Then when you come back here, you can give all of the real assessment of the real history of the facts!!
I was stationed at takli Thailand in 1966 on the crash recovery squadron of the 105s,,b66s or whatever else that landed on the runway. Was just 19 then, I'm 76 now. Damn still remember all that.
Honor to you who helped defend the world free from communist tyranny !!
Thank you for your service.
I was a crew chief stationed at korat AFB Thailand on f 105's at this time. My commanding officer colonel William cooper was killed flying a bombing mission over Hanoi in April 1966.
WHO CARES?
Well obviously you don't care you communist peice of SHIT
www.pownetwork.org/bios/c/c058.htm
@@jerryrobinson5163 No, he’s not a communist piece of shit, he’s lower than the pile of diarrhea coming out of a sick elephant. I bet if you were talking to a Vietnamese, he would say that his commander was killed in a dog fight defending Hanoi. Then the two of you would raise a glass and salute to comrades long gone.
Sad story...of course this film and countless others were made as morale boosters for those in uniform and propaganda for those (read Congress) who were civilians. Many dedicated and brave American aviators were ''sacrificed' on the altar called "Rolling Thunder" (in those days). Massive losses of expensive aircraft and irreplaceable aircrews to try to achieve no strategic and very limited tactical objectives (post-strike recce often as not showed roads, truck parks, bridges, depots, rail junctions, etc repaired and back in service within the day.
'
An old tale...A young NVA soldier straps 3 large mortar rounds to the frame of his bicycle and pushed it hundreds of miles down the Ho Chi Minh Trail to a point in South Vietnam. Along the way, he battled choking dust, deep mud, rugged terrain, biting insects, and the ever-present threat of aerial ambush.
Upon arriving at his destination, he looked on in satisfaction as the three mortar rounds were fired at the Imperialist running dogs. The military commander patted the the young soldier on the back, then told him, "Thank, you comrade. Now go back and bring three more shells."
How could we have achieved victory against determination like that, based on the rules of engagement in play?
You should see documentaries with ex-VietCong about this stuff, apparently some guerrillas were so scared that they deserted back to Hanoi for a few days before rejoining the fight on the frontlines.
"When the Americans [took fire from the forest], they eliminated the forest" - PBS Ken Burns' The Vietnam War.
Mid 1960s. F4 Phantoms, F100 Super Sabers and F105 Thunderchiefs or Thuds.
Pure acceleration power.
i know I'm kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to stream newly released movies online ?
@Elon Damon I watch on Flixzone. You can find it on google :)
I was 16 years old then, I was more into girls and never thought that I would be there in 69 with the first Marine Division...
All these years has gone by sometimes it feels like it was just been a dream being over there, but I wouldn’t change a thing…I got hurt in Vietnam and the marine corps have taking good care of me ever since…
@grumpy old fart that's for dam sure...
1966 I was 18. After training I was sent in 1970.Spent 18 months there.
@@BobJones-dq9mx semper fi ...my father in law was in the navy a officer he was in electronic warfare he designed a radar to jam the norths radar that helped in bring down migs over north Vietnam he got a Metal for it...I can’t remember what kind it been so long ago...OoHARH..
@@LeatherneckJoe133 wow..I am impressed.I flew the Bird Dog for the first 6 months I was there.Army.
respect to both of you. I'm 23 now and couldn't imagine fighting when I was 18. My grandfather was an ATC and volunteered to be a Huey door gunner to give the other boys a break. Lost him 2 years ago from cancer
Mig pilot at 9:43 probably turned to gumbo with those hits
Brian G DOUBLE DAMN!!
That must make U hungry. Southern lad?
Very interesting video, thanks for posting
Ho Chi Minh said to the Americans, “We win if we don’t lose. You lose if you don’t win.”
Very excellent quote
He also said a dead communist is a communist that didn't fight good!
my dad was navy and we were on Guam during this time and he was an aviation mechanic
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We lost a whole lot of F105s in Vietnam , close to 400 about half the entire production of Thunderchiefs.
And @ 5,600 helicopter losses
Correct. The F-105 was one of the primary attack aircraft of the Vietnam War; over 20,000 Thunderchief sorties were flown, with 382 aircraft lost including 62 operational (non-combat) losses (out of the 833 produced).
This history means so much to me as 24yo Australian growing up in 24
look at all the old craters this early in the war
Good observation. Some of these targets had already been worked over rather extensively.
My hat goes off to the 105 drivers especially during Operation Rolling Blunder. They would risk pilots and planes to hit the same targets over & over again and the majority where already destroyed in the first attacks.
Weak trolling Sergej.
God Bless America!
In 1965, it was all ok, by 1968, nothing was 'ok' anymore, the public had spoken.
I guess the public could have waited it out till 1968 but that was the limit. Anyone with a brain had to know that if we didn't win quickly this was going to be a loser. Just too many casualty's with the unfair Draft.
Chuckle. BDA
GOOD: Well we might of hit it
FAIR: Well, we might of come close.
INTERDICTED: We didnt hit shit.
Old school, No CCIP for those guys.
I have been to Laos and seen the continuing results of the cluster bomb drops. It was not worth sending highly skilled US pilots to move bits of mud around and leave huge amounts of unexploded ordnance that are still killing and maiming people today.
The people of Laos did not deserve this.
Concur. Neither did/do the Vietnamese deserve this...
Cool film pointing out the futility of this type of bombing campaign. You blow a hole in an unpaved road one day, and the hole gets filled back in within hours. Notice how many "truck parks" and "storage areas" are bombed. More often than not, there was nothing there. The pilots just dumped their bombs and called it a day. The only way to interdict the Trail would have been to invade and occupy. This is the main source of our defeat there, as we were not willing to do that. If we weren't willing to do what it took to win, we should never have fought.
American engaged wars are not fought to actually be won by anyone, they are fought to make select individuals more wealthy with arms contracts. People in the know invest in the companies just before the contracts are officially awarded. This is true.
Johnson and his crew was pathetic.
Boy, it’s been awhile since I’ve heard PLO used.
Excellent post, amazing how the North never let the South go?
Beauty Mate.
When they say that they bombed a truck park actually what they bombed was nothing but trees. I talked to a pilot when I was over there that flew those missions and he told me most of the times when they were on those type of interdiction flight they hit nothing but trees
The weapons manufacturers and oil tycoons made a killing on weapons and fuel sales while the US tax payers paid and still are paying for this war. Meanwhile the politicians and bankers also profited by printing and loaning money creating debt and interest to pay for the weapons. The more bombs dropped the more money they made, even if the bombs did not even hit any target and hit “trees”, it kept the demand for more weapons ongoing. Most tax payers then and now have no clue how this war buisness is operated and how they the tax payer is responsible to pay for the all of the costs of all military campaigns.
Yes, trees.....but also monkey, snakes and rice.
105 Thunderchiefs were not designed for these type of missions but they used what they had
yep, it was designed for nuclear strike missions, many F-105 Pilots had never before dropped iron Bombs or conventional Bombs.
This big bird even achieved air vics vs nimble MiG-17 but nearly half of the F-105 prod. run was lost during the Vietnam war, this number incl comabat losses and ( non combat) operational losses.
The F105 delivered 75 percent of the bombs dropped on north North Vietnam
This is the 1st time I've ever seen footage of my Uncle lieutenant colonel John Martin Rowan from the 469th Tactical fighter bomber!! #💯 Missions
He also has two confirm Mig Kills In the same mission After blowing up power plant!!
100 missions in Vietnam is quite an accomplishment.
It is interesting that the U.S. was attacking Laos as early as 1966. Was that publicly announced at that time?
+Hannah Miyamoto "Secret War".
who's stopping them ?
The US never attacked Laos they attacked the NVA using Laos to pipe men and supplies into S Vietnam Ho Chi Minh trail duh
wj dell The narrator describes "road-cutting" missions. That sounds more I like an attack on Laos itself than NVA transiting through Laos.
If one wants to see shootdowns of B-52s and others , one has to watch the north-vietnamese clips on RUclips! The USAF or Pentagon have of course copies in their archives but dare not show them to the public. The same for QPVN (Vietnam Ministery of Defense): it never shows this clip on RUclips!
A bit of history there 👍
My friend Billy Ray Valentine was in sang bang with the special forces battalion tactics squadron tactical unit.
Anything is dying in those targets.
Everything is dying
As a taxpayer, I damn well hope so.
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Great American pilots!
They're the BEST ... THEN ... & NOW!
A war for nothing that achieved nothing☮☯️✌🎸
excellent men, well done. carry on.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Hi tech optics ftw.
Phi vụ Bắc Phạt 1966
Hay ho gì giết người Việt Nam. Giờ thì sao mỹ việt hoa giải. Tay sai vatican thực dân de quốc .
@@TamNguyen-nl1cf Cộng sản miền Bắc quá ngu nên đã nghe lời giặc Tàu xâm chiếm Và giết hại dân lành. Bây giờ giặc Tàu âm thầm thống trị Cộng sản và một ngày không bao xa giặc Tàu sẽ chiếm Việt Nam không tốn một viên đạn. Hãy thức tỉnh đi đồng chí.
@@2011tmh lời bạn nói tôi nghe chục năm trước rồi. Dat nước thong nhất doc lập day là diều to tien và nhan dân ước mơ. Dừng bịa chuyện ra nữa bạn ơi. Xúi giục cho nhan dân do mau rồi rước ngoại bang vào nữa hay sao. Ai danh Trung Quốc thì mọi người cũng da thấy rồi.
@@TamNguyen-nl1cf Lời nói củ mấy chục năm rồi nhưng vẫn chưa tỉnh giấc. Hãy ra thành phố Nha Trang sẽ thấy đang trở thành thành phố Tàu đấy bạn.
Tàu đánh cá của người dân không được bảo vệ ngoài biển....
Bó tay!
@@2011tmh vớ vẩn, tôi người nha trang đây. Nói toàn những điều bịa đặt.
here is the reason why we escaped till today In the United states
Looks like practice videos for the U.S. military.
Incendigel... before it was called Napalm
No they called it incendigel after they weren’t ‘allowed’ to use napalm anymore. Courtesy of the assholes in Geneva.
Joel Smith Right you are Joel. The double standard of the Left and the media which are one in the same these days.
No secondary explosions means they hit nothing but jungle.
Why all the F-105 commentary when many of the aircraft are A-7's?
Because for starters, these gun camera films were shot in 1966. The first A-7D built for the Air Force did not make its first flight until 1968, entered squadron service in 1970, and were first deployed to Vietnam in 1972 just prior to Linebacker II. Navy A-7As didn’t enter the Vietnam War until December 1967. During this time, F-105s were flying roughly 75% of all missions in N. Vietnam and Laos during this time. By the time of the 1968 bombing halt, nearly half of the F-105 fleet was lost and F-4s took their place.
They were f8 crusaders
@@FN_FAL_4_ever Thanks for enlightening me. FNFAL for ever-DS Sa-58 here
So all the buildings are military compounds and jungles are truck parks?
strafing fishing boats with multi-million dollar F-105 Thunderchiefs - an aircraft made for dropping nukes - - 322 lost during this bs ...
US : Destroy
Other country : Built
You forgot Laos
@ 14:24 it looks like there may have been some previous Agent orange treatment.
US lost more than 10,000 aircrafts during Vietnam War...
Lots of elephants were killed.
It's what humans do apparently?...they beat each other up then go for a drink.
Crime of the century 👎
Completely ineffective waste of material and personnel.
9:48 HEAD SHOT!
We were bombing peasants! It is amazing how resilient and productive they were. Repairing the damage, regrouping and bringing the fight south. How in the world did we lose this war? I understand the political reasons, but this should have never been in doubt. Technology doesn't always win.
The military did just fine, defeat was entirely political. The South wasn’t captured until 2 years after the US left
Well said
what kind of air-to-ground missiles would they have been using? e.g. @1:58
Thomas Cat Walleyes
Raytheon voodoo air-surface missles.
AGM 12c was the ‘Bullpup’, once launched it was controlled with a joystick from inside the cockpit.
All for nothing… All those dead Americans, and spent treasure for nothing…
The US Air Farce......what if some nation had done that to us?
it's stough war and interested
They need to release the classified versions sometime😈
These were classified in 1966 and up until the 80's: note the bombing in Laos which the US denied for a number of years.
US ARMY is very thought in the battle ! the war in Vietnam is very interested!
me agree
Saim hear
ياصاحب القناة اريد المزيد من المقاطع
I wish you would have build a wall all around South Viet Nam just like we are doing now at the Mexican border.
1k plus intrusion plane shoot down by defender Vietnam firce
What a waste
Ww2 footage has better quality
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What was not appreciated, nor understood that the North Vietnamees communists hated the Chinese communists even more than the south. So much for the dogma that a domino effect would see the whole of SE Asia under communist rule. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but what was learned in Iraq,
They deserve the same punishment in their own country !!
60nours You young punk kid, why don't you get off your mommies couch playing all your video games,, and get your mother to drop you off at the local library instead of watching tv. all day or being on the internet, and educate yourself on the real facts of what really happened in thease wars! Then when you come back here, you can give all of the real assessment of the real history of the facts!!
We had Swalwell, Pelosi, Newsom, Feinstein, Becerra and Kamala Harris. I'd say we're even.