Respect and appreciation to all firefighters, to all th pilots each and every one of the firefighters coming to LA to help save lives and property, we are so thankful!
We love you Canada! I’ve flown with Canadian pilots on missions and they’re off the charts competent and professional. Go Canada 🍁 and thank you for your help! 🇨🇦
They also have a much faster turn around. The big jets need to go back to an airport, land, load up with chemical or water, get back in the air and then get back to the fire. That is why those planes are typically using chemical and are creating the fire break. The helicopters and the scoopers put out the fires. The one other thing with aircraft is there is no such thing as the best aircraft. It really depends on the situation. If a helicopter has access to a water source like a smaller river on large pond that is right by the fire then they can actually move more water then even the scoopers. We had a forest fire close to where I work and 4 helicopters were just going in a rotation so as soon as one helicopter had grabbed water the next one was coming in to grab water. The fire was less than a mile away from a large pond so they were moving some serious water.
Incredible amount of talent I would imagine, to fly one of these, skimming water and picking up weight as you skim must be such a precise move. When you dump, they must gain altitude quick.
Our fleet was comprised of retired military aircraft. The US has not built a military seaplane since the late 1940’s. The companies that built them no longer exist. We are looking at buying ones made in Japan. The US capability is invested in small amphibious aircraft.
I don't think it's THAT simple or all the countries currently buying these from us in Canada would all be doing that. You can't just use the same design I'm sure and you also need expertise and experience. These planes have been built for decades in Canada, there is a LOT of expertise not just with the planes but Canada, with the largest intact forest in the world, also has a LOT of experience at fighting wildfires and experience with wildfires encroaching on urban settings. That's why California has asked Canada to send experts there to help.
@@silkeotd7194 They are also single purpose aircraft. It’s great they found the niche market for them. It also takes very deep pockets to procure and operate. No aircraft is perfect. Canada developed them because of the vast remote country. They had also previously relied on retired US military amphibious airplanes. We have more airfields, more desert, many things that determine how to choose an aircraft.
How can a state right next to the biggest ocean on the planet burn year after year??? Not one other piece of land bordering the Pacific burns, just Cali that boasts about having the largest GDP in the country, the 5th biggest economy in the world, but this continues to happen.
Because salt water is very corrosive. Only this aircraft is made to withstand corrosion. Also, the land receiving that salt water will not be very productive for a while. This is why using salt water is only used in extreme situations such as this.
They have legislation that prevents using ocean water for anything but the ocean. All natural freshwater sources are directed to the ocean. Money for reservoirs is missing. Standing reservoirs weren’t filled. Dams were torn down that had previously held water in reservoirs. This made salmon more available. Israel wanted to show California how to remove the salt from the ocean and have useable water. They declined. They outlawed control burns to keep the forest floor cleared because of some insect.
Quebec Canada are proud to send our best and fearless pilots. California should have bought a fleet of CL415 à long time ago. France has bought 6 over the years and they fight fires in the Mediterranean every summers. Spain have over a dozen and ordered new ones. LA County should have a fleet of 10 more but never invested and only rented two every fire season . But we will support our California friends regardless of the economic impact Donald wants to impose on Canada.
British railways used to refill tenders using a similar scooping technique, long troughs filled with boiler water between the rails, and a scoop was lowered as the train passed over at a high rate of speed and the pressure forced the water up into the tender. It makes sense to use such a fast refilling method without relying on pumping, hoses, etc.
Because when the aircraft was hit, all other aircrafts were grounded so that the fire commandment and the FAA can make sure no other unauthorized crafts are in the air. Normal security procedures.
Proud to be Canadian! Doesn't California receive like 12 feet of snow or something crazy in the mountains every winter?? Store that runoff in the spring into reservoirs and then you have reserves ready to go, just open the tap and let it rip.
According to a chart I saw online with all the countries who've been purchasing these Canadian planes, the U.S. owned 10 back several years ago. So they do have some but they are likely owned by private companies maybe?
Anyone ever ask, despite their abilities, how effective are these planes are to contain or extinguish the fires? My understanding is that the water turns into a mist from the heat, and prior to reaching the ground, and has little to no effect.
You can't extinguish a fire from the air. It's the ground crews that eliminate the hot spots to extinguish a fire. Water bombers however are crucial to the ground crews success. They protect the ground crews safety from advancing flame fronts, they can protect structures and they can subside the fire enough for ground crews to move in. It takes a team to put out wildfires and the air assets are a vital part of that team.
@@wally7856 yup.... ideally you have fire fighters on the ground, helicopters and planes dropping water and then with California they have the larger planes dropping chemical which basically create a firebreak. Its basically a military style operation. They also have the spotter planes which are coordinating everything. Its actually really cool to watch.
Drones are used to look for hotspots (if they are thermal equipped) and relay the locations to aircraft and guys on the ground. Drones DO have to yield to manned aircraft, but they are an important tool.
Of course we don't manufacture super scoopers here in the U.S., what do we build here anymore? Not much of anything. But we did build the largest rubber band ball in the world 😢😢😢.
It's not that different in Canada you know. It's not like the U.S. is the only western nation that lost a lot of manufacturing when jobs went to countries with cheap labour. We also lost a lot of our manufacturing too. However, these planes are our design and require expertise that we have in Canada, having the largest intact forest on the planet. It would make little sense to outsource such an industry. Besides, as the interviewee said, they only build about a dozen of these a year (if I'm remembering the # correctly) ...
Well I believe the interviewee noted another water bomber that is perhaps American-made but just is lower capacity and cannot handle salt water as easily. If you do the research, there are other models available across the world.
John makes it sound as though it’s the only aircraft to solve firefighting problems. That aircraft is one very small piece of what it takes to fight fires. One has to ask if they are in such high demand why only 12-15 a year? That would be expanded if they placed satisfying the need over job security.
Because, they're a smaller company that makes a lot of different types of aircraft and trains, with a small division that has continued making amphibious aircraft since the end of WWII--one of a few on Earth to still do so. The reason why the production is paused and a new factory being built is due to corporate restricting and relocation of its primary facilities. That, and they were originally ahead of the curve and their first model of waterbomber wasn't widely sold, so the subsequent generations had been made in smaller batches. But now that there's more wildfires, the Europeans have been snapping them up in large quantities, while the USA pretended like they didn't have a problem.
"Super scooper" is a cutesy-poo term for the Canadair Water Bomber type that has been in service for 6 decades. They also operate all over the Mediterranean.
They most likely cant buy any. Countries all over the world buy them so you are typically looking at like 5+ years from when you place the order till when you get them.
I doubt he meant flying straight into treetops, just meaning they can fly at high altitudes I believe he meant, also in very remote locations thanks to the fact that they can quickly fill their water supply back up in a lake or river nearby. That is one reason why they are a godsend for fires in remote places in Canada. Other models that have tanks that have to be filled in other ways would not work nearly as well.
Are the news stations, for example, Fox, responsible for sending drones into the air above or adjacent to the blazes to take videos and photos of the blazes in Los Angeles?
Is the canadian taxpayer paying for this and, does the USA, the wealthiest country on earth not have the equipment and manpower to fight fires themselves?
@@wandaherring7526 Yes, but extras are being sent as he said. 2 more would be arriving the next day.... Canada is also sending wildfire experts and 250 firefighters to assist as well....
It just goes on and on and on, these aircraft built in Calgary are immediately sold and shipped to Europe when we need them most in Canada where they are built and now California. More examples of both our governments north and south of the border failing miserably. Soooooo frustrating when you look at Trudeau, Biden and now Newsom, when will this madness stop !
We have 64 in Canada last I saw online, the U.S. had 10 (the chart was several years old so maybe there are more now.) I suspect most are owned by private companies. Perhaps the govts. need to think ahead and order these in advance just like other countries have done or contract with the private owners in the meantime to get the use of the planes.
The us retired it’s converted military large amphibious aircraft at the US Forest Services request. They haven’t built one since the late 40’s early 50’s. They returned to the idea of smaller aircraft after that. However the US military is looking into buying the ones that Japan produces. They have to be Ocean capable which the Canadair ones are not. And capable of search and rescue missions. Even then we would not see a converted airtanker model until they are retired. Just the way it works. Large air tankers require open areas of water. Or you might as well use a land based aircraft. Lack of available tankers is not the problem. This time of year many go to the southern hemisphere where it is summer. These are not typical naturally occurring fires. But California can buy all the airtankers it wants. Just either their own money.
I was referring to what John said. Ocean capable is defined on how rough the water state typically is. I maintained PBY 5A’s and HU-16 Albatrosses. They were used in this role also. You can land any seaplane on calm water. 10’ swells that’s a different story. That’s the difference between ocean capable or not.
Would not want to be the halfwit who owned that drone. The repair of the plane is not going to be cheap. However, the notoriety once their name gets out will not be what they wanted.
They are very well known and have been for years (just ask our European friends. They have been using these aircrafts to combat wildfires for decades). The US is the only one who seems to have suddenly paid attention.
He's an engineer and has been involved in the aviation industry since 1975, currently involved in the Aviation Management program out of McGill University. What is it that you think he doesn't know when answering questions in the interview. He seemed to know the planes quite well and how they are used.
That drone was a commercial drone, not some civilian putz looking for vid for RUclips. A smaller one would have maybe left a dent but not much else. Too small, too light. Unless someone in the US want's to build a seaplane based tanker, they will be limited to taking cargo planes out of Davis Monthan and rebuilding them to carry retardant. Bigger loads but longer cycle time because they have to land at airports that fit their landing/takeoff specs. That DC-10-30 that is flying round can be tracked going back to reload after a drop. The seaplanes and helos have the advantage of being able to reload out of a lake, but the payload is a lot smaller.
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Respect and appreciation to all firefighters, to all th pilots each and every one of the firefighters coming to LA to help save lives and property, we are so thankful!
We love you Canada! I’ve flown with Canadian pilots on missions and they’re off the charts competent and professional. Go Canada 🍁 and thank you for your help! 🇨🇦
As a Canadian, can you tell your upcoming president?
A great Canadian made aircraft! They can fly lower and slower than the big jets and thus being more accurate and effective in their drops.
They also have a much faster turn around. The big jets need to go back to an airport, land, load up with chemical or water, get back in the air and then get back to the fire. That is why those planes are typically using chemical and are creating the fire break. The helicopters and the scoopers put out the fires. The one other thing with aircraft is there is no such thing as the best aircraft. It really depends on the situation. If a helicopter has access to a water source like a smaller river on large pond that is right by the fire then they can actually move more water then even the scoopers. We had a forest fire close to where I work and 4 helicopters were just going in a rotation so as soon as one helicopter had grabbed water the next one was coming in to grab water. The fire was less than a mile away from a large pond so they were moving some serious water.
Could be arrests?
If you're interfering & endangering essential service, you need to go to jail.
Air coordination in those conditions must be anxious stressful .
Of course California would take out its one life saving measure!
WOW!, THANK YOU WONDERFUL INTERVIEW.
Incredible amount of talent I would imagine, to fly one of these, skimming water and picking up weight as you skim must be such a precise move. When you dump, they must gain altitude quick.
If from the first hour of the fire they put all this water on the burning area we wouldn't get to this point
Not that simple. The area has been in drought mode for a long time and the winds over 100 miles an hour stop everything.
But they didn't have the resources to do that, and the blaze progressed RAPIDLY. Didn't it begin at night?
What is with peoples brains. Putting up a drone for possibly RUclips content. 🤦🏼♀️
Amazing we have to Rent these from Canada and not build our own I guess the bullet train has more priorities
Our fleet was comprised of retired military aircraft. The US has not built a military seaplane since the late 1940’s. The companies that built them no longer exist. We are looking at buying ones made in Japan. The US capability is invested in small amphibious aircraft.
I don't think it's THAT simple or all the countries currently buying these from us in Canada would all be doing that. You can't just use the same design I'm sure and you also need expertise and experience. These planes have been built for decades in Canada, there is a LOT of expertise not just with the planes but Canada, with the largest intact forest in the world, also has a LOT of experience at fighting wildfires and experience with wildfires encroaching on urban settings. That's why California has asked Canada to send experts there to help.
@@silkeotd7194
They are also single purpose aircraft. It’s great they found the niche market for them. It also takes very deep pockets to procure and operate. No aircraft is perfect. Canada developed them because of the vast remote country. They had also previously relied on retired US military amphibious airplanes. We have more airfields, more desert, many things that determine how to choose an aircraft.
We are here for you CA, Canada, as our 11th province , your life will get better ,
Y’all will be Americans soon.
@@longsleevethong1457 Nope.
@@longsleevethong1457 No way!
Hahaha!
@VANGY nope for sure ! 🇨🇦🇨🇦
Even Greece has more of them than the US!
Canada is sending 2 more aircrafts
They really did help and they really needed it thanks
How can a state right next to the biggest ocean on the planet burn year after year??? Not one other piece of land bordering the Pacific burns, just Cali that boasts about having the largest GDP in the country, the 5th biggest economy in the world, but this continues to happen.
Because salt water is very corrosive. Only this aircraft is made to withstand corrosion. Also, the land receiving that salt water will not be very productive for a while. This is why using salt water is only used in extreme situations such as this.
Because real estate cartels need to shake the generations from their wealth.
Have you researched "using saltwater for fires"
It is extremely bad.
They have legislation that prevents using ocean water for anything but the ocean. All natural freshwater sources are directed to the ocean. Money for reservoirs is missing. Standing reservoirs weren’t filled. Dams were torn down that had previously held water in reservoirs. This made salmon more available. Israel wanted to show California how to remove the salt from the ocean and have useable water. They declined. They outlawed control burns to keep the forest floor cleared because of some insect.
@@swapshots4427 Have you ever heard of desalination plants?????
Thank you Bridger Aerospace
Coulson Aviation CH-47 Chinook is quite effective with Modular Tank capacity over 11K liter/ lift
Quebec Canada are proud to send our best and fearless pilots. California should have bought a fleet of CL415 à long time ago. France has bought 6 over the years and they fight fires in the Mediterranean every summers. Spain have over a dozen and ordered new ones. LA County should have a fleet of 10 more but never invested and only rented two every fire season . But we will support our California friends regardless of the economic impact Donald wants to impose on Canada.
British railways used to refill tenders using a similar scooping technique, long troughs filled with boiler water between the rails, and a scoop was lowered as the train passed over at a high rate of speed and the pressure forced the water up into the tender. It makes sense to use such a fast refilling method without relying on pumping, hoses, etc.
Built and designed in Canada specifically for fighting wildfires
Scoopers🌷
They have the whole da Ocean!
One was grounded for damage but why not use the other one?
Are you drunk or stupid? No one said that both are out of action due to one being hit.
Because when the aircraft was hit, all other aircrafts were grounded so that the fire commandment and the FAA can make sure no other unauthorized crafts are in the air. Normal security procedures.
Our war planes are put together here using parts made in China, Mexico, Canada,and Taiwan. 🤨😐😑
Which isn’t safe.
Thank you Canada
After 10min I'm left with more questions and the same 30sec total of clips constantly repeating showed me nothing. This isn't journalism.
Showing? As in a DRONE showing you what's happening? Figure it out.
Like what kind of questions? I felt the interview was very informative.
Why Aren't they mentioning or showing where all the people are! And how to help them?
This segment is showing the super scooper exclusively.
5000 firefighters are coming from Mexico to help. Problem is only 500 will return to Mexico.
True
Thank you
Proud to be Canadian! Doesn't California receive like 12 feet of snow or something crazy in the mountains every winter?? Store that runoff in the spring into reservoirs and then you have reserves ready to go, just open the tap and let it rip.
It hasn't rained in southern California since May 2024.
Always blew my mind thinking how the US has none of these planes. Trump says Canada has nothing the US needs. ha
According to a chart I saw online with all the countries who've been purchasing these Canadian planes, the U.S. owned 10 back several years ago. So they do have some but they are likely owned by private companies maybe?
A Canadian living in northern Italy, the Italians also call this plane Canadair! The firefighters here own several
That is the actual name of the plane. They just have the nickname "super scooper"
Anyone ever ask, despite their abilities, how effective are these planes are to contain or extinguish the fires? My understanding is that the water turns into a mist from the heat, and prior to reaching the ground, and has little to no effect.
I'm from Canada and seen these planes in action I've seen them put out a fire about as big as 4 acres in one frop
You can't extinguish a fire from the air. It's the ground crews that eliminate the hot spots to extinguish a fire. Water bombers however are crucial to the ground crews success. They protect the ground crews safety from advancing flame fronts, they can protect structures and they can subside the fire enough for ground crews to move in. It takes a team to put out wildfires and the air assets are a vital part of that team.
@@wally7856 yup.... ideally you have fire fighters on the ground, helicopters and planes dropping water and then with California they have the larger planes dropping chemical which basically create a firebreak. Its basically a military style operation. They also have the spotter planes which are coordinating everything. Its actually really cool to watch.
From your neighbor to the north
Drones are used to look for hotspots (if they are thermal equipped) and relay the locations to aircraft and guys on the ground. Drones DO have to yield to manned aircraft, but they are an important tool.
Are they scooping from the ocean surface??
In times of crisis, Canada has reliably supported the United States.
Of course we don't manufacture super scoopers here in the U.S., what do we build here anymore? Not much of anything. But we did build the largest rubber band ball in the world 😢😢😢.
We are now a service country. We did away with manufacturing anything including medicines. Thank you to our politicians for destroying our industry.
It's not that different in Canada you know. It's not like the U.S. is the only western nation that lost a lot of manufacturing when jobs went to countries with cheap labour. We also lost a lot of our manufacturing too. However, these planes are our design and require expertise that we have in Canada, having the largest intact forest on the planet. It would make little sense to outsource such an industry. Besides, as the interviewee said, they only build about a dozen of these a year (if I'm remembering the # correctly) ...
This guy just looks like Thomas Jefferson but it is not.
Amazing , but why US can not create similar ?
🤷🏻 odd
Do we create anything now?
Well I believe the interviewee noted another water bomber that is perhaps American-made but just is lower capacity and cannot handle salt water as easily. If you do the research, there are other models available across the world.
John makes it sound as though it’s the only aircraft to solve firefighting problems. That aircraft is one very small piece of what it takes to fight fires. One has to ask if they are in such high demand why only 12-15 a year? That would be expanded if they placed satisfying the need over job security.
Because, they're a smaller company that makes a lot of different types of aircraft and trains, with a small division that has continued making amphibious aircraft since the end of WWII--one of a few on Earth to still do so.
The reason why the production is paused and a new factory being built is due to corporate restricting and relocation of its primary facilities.
That, and they were originally ahead of the curve and their first model of waterbomber wasn't widely sold, so the subsequent generations had been made in smaller batches. But now that there's more wildfires, the Europeans have been snapping them up in large quantities, while the USA pretended like they didn't have a problem.
6:47 u cannotfool me . that was no picture taking drone .
"Super scooper" is a cutesy-poo term for the Canadair Water Bomber type that has been in service for 6 decades.
They also operate all over the Mediterranean.
I don’t even understand why LA doesn’t have a whole fleet? Instead of two. Just two…
I guess the threat wasn't taken seriously enough? Or perhaps financial constraints?
Québec.. say it
No longer made in Québec
Why not build salt water - water towers ?
I guess it cost much less than a bullet train
The train to nowhere!
How come California doesn't have a super scooper?
They most likely cant buy any. Countries all over the world buy them so you are typically looking at like 5+ years from when you place the order till when you get them.
Canada helping out our 11th province.
I wonder how many fish they scoop up each time? 🤔
I don't see any right wing US media saying thank you to Canada they didn't need to help
If they are built to fly into tree tops, why would a small plastice drone put a hole in a round leadinding edge?
I doubt he meant flying straight into treetops, just meaning they can fly at high altitudes I believe he meant, also in very remote locations thanks to the fact that they can quickly fill their water supply back up in a lake or river nearby. That is one reason why they are a godsend for fires in remote places in Canada. Other models that have tanks that have to be filled in other ways would not work nearly as well.
Are the news stations, for example, Fox, responsible for sending drones into the air above or adjacent to the blazes to take videos and photos of the blazes in Los Angeles?
Trump should buy some super scoopers instead of F35.
Need to be more specific which Santa they want visiting.
Salt the Earth!
Is the canadian taxpayer paying for this and, does the USA, the wealthiest country on earth not have the equipment and manpower to fight fires themselves?
California leases two of these planes from Canada yearly.
@@wandaherring7526 plz add 25% on the bill
@@wandaherring7526 Yes, but extras are being sent as he said. 2 more would be arriving the next day.... Canada is also sending wildfire experts and 250 firefighters to assist as well....
Quakes & more fires
It just goes on and on and on, these aircraft built in Calgary are immediately sold and shipped to Europe when we need them most in Canada where they are built and now California. More examples of both our governments north and south of the border failing miserably. Soooooo frustrating when you look at Trudeau, Biden and now Newsom, when will this madness stop !
We have 64 in Canada last I saw online, the U.S. had 10 (the chart was several years old so maybe there are more now.) I suspect most are owned by private companies. Perhaps the govts. need to think ahead and order these in advance just like other countries have done or contract with the private owners in the meantime to get the use of the planes.
The us retired it’s converted military large amphibious aircraft at the US Forest Services request. They haven’t built one since the late 40’s early 50’s. They returned to the idea of smaller aircraft after that.
However the US military is looking into buying the ones that Japan produces. They have to be Ocean capable which the Canadair ones are not. And capable of search and rescue missions. Even then we would not see a converted airtanker model until they are retired. Just the way it works. Large air tankers require open areas of water. Or you might as well use a land based aircraft. Lack of available tankers is not the problem. This time of year many go to the southern hemisphere where it is summer.
These are not typical naturally occurring fires. But California can buy all the airtankers it wants. Just either their own money.
Not ocean capable how? They can load water from the ocean which is what they've been doing for fires in LA.
I was referring to what John said. Ocean capable is defined on how rough the water state typically is. I maintained PBY 5A’s and HU-16 Albatrosses. They were used in this role also. You can land any seaplane on calm water. 10’ swells that’s a different story. That’s the difference between ocean capable or not.
What idiot interfered with this important $30m airplane to fly a drone for social medial likes I’m sure.
Multimillion dollar warcraft...built with the cheapest components and labor!!!
What are you talking about? These planes are Canadian and made in Canada, not cheap labour or cheap components.
Would not want to be the halfwit who owned that drone. The repair of the plane is not going to be cheap. However, the notoriety once their name gets out will not be what they wanted.
They are very well known and have been for years (just ask our European friends. They have been using these aircrafts to combat wildfires for decades). The US is the only one who seems to have suddenly paid attention.
Order 200
I know plenty of pilots who could fly those planes
This so-called expert knows only what he reads. Does he pilot? It doesn't seem to know anything about it.
He's an engineer and has been involved in the aviation industry since 1975, currently involved in the Aviation Management program out of McGill University. What is it that you think he doesn't know when answering questions in the interview. He seemed to know the planes quite well and how they are used.
And the planes will be TARIFFED
It's pooper scoopers..water bombers🙃Canadair
2025 is the year America start to going down
That drone was a commercial drone, not some civilian putz looking for vid for RUclips. A smaller one would have maybe left a dent but not much else. Too small, too light. Unless someone in the US want's to build a seaplane based tanker, they will be limited to taking cargo planes out of Davis Monthan and rebuilding them to carry retardant. Bigger loads but longer cycle time because they have to land at airports that fit their landing/takeoff specs. That DC-10-30 that is flying round can be tracked going back to reload after a drop. The seaplanes and helos have the advantage of being able to reload out of a lake, but the payload is a lot smaller.
Yeah, Canada makes those and the Dutch make Ozempic. President Camacho should have learned these things before shooting his mouth off.