I love my mission darkness bags. I keep all my radios In them. I have computer bags for my solar generator and I use their solar panel bags as well. Great products. I keep my radios in a pelican type box to protect them as well when I put them in the bag.
That is awesome! I love mine as well and plan on buying more for other gear down the road...especially with the state of the world today! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
That bag ought to be fine for most of your stuff, that you'd want to take with you if you needed to move to a place that has power or better resources. I would consider some EMP plastic bags, but not as the primary container: I'd put small things in the plastic bags, like a cell phone, tablet PC or memory cards.
Good ideas. I also heard from another viewer about using mylar bags to add extra protection to gear. This has sparked a new bit of research into EMP stuff for me. Looking forward to getting more info out to you guys soon. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
@@toml.8210 To a point you are correct however if you cannot seal that bag like you can't a millar bag it might not be as effective as if it was fully sealed and air tight. I maperiod I may be wrong but from what I've heard and read so far you really want a good seal on whatever enclosure you're gonna use for your gear
I cannot verify if that is true or not. I was under the impression that any integrated circuits and so on would fry of the wave came through it. Might be something to research and verify. Thanks for the idea! 73!
That is not true. Consider the following: EMPS: If generated from solar then it is going to predominantly manifest in lower frequencies so that means they will be picked up by power lines so the danger will come mostly from power systems. If the emp is from a nuclear attack then it has 3 phases with different frequencies. The first phase is immediate and high frequency. This will be picked up by the tiny wires inside devices and will fry them. The second phase follows the first within a few seconds and is not as consequential. The third phase is basically the same lower frequency waves as a solar emp so this will fry the equipment via the power line. Remember the surge that will come over the power lines will be huge and will likely jump the contacts on the on/off switch and fry the equipment even if off. All three phases will be picked up by the antenna to the radio and fry it. Radios: Radios have 3 ways they may be affected. They antenna, the wires inside the radio and the power input. Each phase of a nuclear emp can hit each of these but each will hit in more of a 90/10 type rule. All emps can damage your radio, on or off. It all comes down to chance. If your radio is disconnected and in the shadow of a mountain and a distance from the emp etc then it may be fine. If under an emp bomb then if its not in a faraday cage then it's probably game over.
This looks like a great bag but I would put each individual equipment in a separate to protect them from each other like scratches or other potential damage.
I am pretty impressed so far with the products from Mission Darkness. They work, they protect my gear and I recommend them for situations that could potentially damage our gear. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
Glad it was helpful! I don't want to go off on a apocalypse scenario, but just to protect from solar flares and other damaging events, I think it is a good idea to at least know that you have options in case of something like that. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
Glad you enjoyed it. I always want to cover as many bases as I can with what I bring to you all. Some however, are under the impression I am fearmongering, but whatever. These are cool bags and for what they offer, I think it is a nice added insurance that your gear is protected. Thanks for watching and for your support. 73!
If someone detonates a nuke in the atmosphere to cause an EMP my radio gear is the least of my concerns, I'll be more worried about radiation from fallout. Re: coronal mass ejections and huge solar flares, for a couple of hundred bucks you can get an assortment of larger and smalller flexible foil lined pizza delivery boxes on Amazon etc.. Put your gear in the smaller ones and put those upside-down inside the bigger ones to prevent anything nasty from entering around the zippers. Unless you somehow have advance warning about an impending solar-caused whatsis tou would need to get into the habit of always disconnecting your gear and stowing it whenever you're not actually using it no matter what solution you use, which pretty much no one is going to do.
Thanks for sharing that. I think it also depends on how you prepare. Some prepare for specific things and prioritize certain things in case of a SHTF scenario differently than others. Depending on what you value to be most important will determine how you prioritize your prep. Communications after a disaster will be paramount, but not everyone will think about that as being important if an issue were to arise. I like your homemade ideas for protecting gear. Thank you for sharing that and for the comments. 73!
Um, no. The nukes necessary for emp to take out, the US for instance, would be two. One over Co and another over GA and both higher in atmosphere. So, unless you are directly downwind from the two you likely won't even see any radiation until it circles the globe and is so dispersed you probably can't measure it. Now, if it is an all out war, that changes things dramatically. The most immediate issue will be radiation. Then after that, long term will be food etc. But, what will be useful at every stage is coms.
Thank you, I will. I found that you can 't please everyone and if some choose to live blind, it's not my problem. I just bring out the info and everyone can choose for themselves what they want to do. Thank you for your support!!! It is greatly appreciated. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
Good idea but if an EMP events occurs we have bigger problems. Communications is just one aspect of an overall strategy that you need to protect. My main SHTF radio will be my G90. With all the electronics wiped out the RFI should go way down after the EMP disburses and the G90's 20 Watts won't be a hinderence. But the AT in the G90 will come in hand as well as its low power draw. I think you are the first I have seen to mention protecting the solar panels; good idea.
I agree, there are many facets of things that will need to be tended to, but having the ability to communicate is a major one as well. Without going on a survivalist kick, just as a matter of common sense we should all have some preparations even if it is just a massive solar flare or something that could fry our equipment. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
They actually have a waterproof backpack that might be right up your alley! Hopefully it never comes to where we have to use something like that, but even just for massive solar flares it would be a good idea. It happened in the 1800's and if the technology we have now existed then, it would have been wiped out. Thanks for watching Paul as always., Take care....73!!
It also protects against solar flares and coronal mass elections which are real threats, so playing on fear isn't the idea, but rather common sense. Thanks for watching. 73
Check out EMPdoctor's video for a real test on these bags and a few extra tips - like not letting metal on your device touch the metallic fabric or layering bags! ruclips.net/video/cxAOROKpguU/видео.html
I love my mission darkness bags. I keep all my radios In them. I have computer bags for my solar generator and I use their solar panel bags as well. Great products. I keep my radios in a pelican type box to protect them as well when I put them in the bag.
That is awesome! I love mine as well and plan on buying more for other gear down the road...especially with the state of the world today! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
That bag ought to be fine for most of your stuff, that you'd want to take with you if you needed to move to a place that has power or better resources. I would consider some EMP plastic bags, but not as the primary container: I'd put small things in the plastic bags, like a cell phone, tablet PC or memory cards.
Good ideas. I also heard from another viewer about using mylar bags to add extra protection to gear. This has sparked a new bit of research into EMP stuff for me. Looking forward to getting more info out to you guys soon. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
@@HR4NT I still have most of the anti-static bags that computer cards are stored. Maybe those are enough to supplement that big bag.
@@toml.8210 To a point you are correct however if you cannot seal that bag like you can't a millar bag it might not be as effective as if it was fully sealed and air tight. I maperiod I may be wrong but from what I've heard and read so far you really want a good seal on whatever enclosure you're gonna use for your gear
I heard that if you’re equipment is off at the time of an emp , it will not be damaged
I cannot verify if that is true or not. I was under the impression that any integrated circuits and so on would fry of the wave came through it. Might be something to research and verify. Thanks for the idea! 73!
@@HR4NT I got it from another ham operator, but is worthy of research! Thanks for answering my comment! 73
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That is not true. Consider the following:
EMPS:
If generated from solar then it is going to predominantly manifest in lower frequencies so that means they will be picked up by power lines so the danger will come mostly from power systems.
If the emp is from a nuclear attack then it has 3 phases with different frequencies. The first phase is immediate and high frequency. This will be picked up by the tiny wires inside devices and will fry them. The second phase follows the first within a few seconds and is not as consequential. The third phase is basically the same lower frequency waves as a solar emp so this will fry the equipment via the power line. Remember the surge that will come over the power lines will be huge and will likely jump the contacts on the on/off switch and fry the equipment even if off. All three phases will be picked up by the antenna to the radio and fry it.
Radios:
Radios have 3 ways they may be affected. They antenna, the wires inside the radio and the power input. Each phase of a nuclear emp can hit each of these but each will hit in more of a 90/10 type rule.
All emps can damage your radio, on or off. It all comes down to chance. If your radio is disconnected and in the shadow of a mountain and a distance from the emp etc then it may be fine. If under an emp bomb then if its not in a faraday cage then it's probably game over.
This looks like a great bag but I would put each individual equipment in a separate to protect them from each other like scratches or other potential damage.
I am pretty impressed so far with the products from Mission Darkness. They work, they protect my gear and I recommend them for situations that could potentially damage our gear. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
Excellent information. I was looking for this type of radio protection.
Glad it was helpful! I don't want to go off on a apocalypse scenario, but just to protect from solar flares and other damaging events, I think it is a good idea to at least know that you have options in case of something like that. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
need to put that big ass watch in there
Not sure if there is room...LOL Thanks for watching. 73!
Hi Scott, yet another excellent presentation, Really like yr approach and style in all yr videos, cheers n 73
Glad you enjoyed it. I always want to cover as many bases as I can with what I bring to you all. Some however, are under the impression I am fearmongering, but whatever. These are cool bags and for what they offer, I think it is a nice added insurance that your gear is protected. Thanks for watching and for your support. 73!
If someone detonates a nuke in the atmosphere to cause an EMP my radio gear is the least of my concerns, I'll be more worried about radiation from fallout. Re: coronal mass ejections and huge solar flares, for a couple of hundred bucks you can get an assortment of larger and smalller flexible foil lined pizza delivery boxes on Amazon etc.. Put your gear in the smaller ones and put those upside-down inside the bigger ones to prevent anything nasty from entering around the zippers. Unless you somehow have advance warning about an impending solar-caused whatsis tou would need to get into the habit of always disconnecting your gear and stowing it whenever you're not actually using it no matter what solution you use, which pretty much no one is going to do.
Thanks for sharing that. I think it also depends on how you prepare. Some prepare for specific things and prioritize certain things in case of a SHTF scenario differently than others. Depending on what you value to be most important will determine how you prioritize your prep. Communications after a disaster will be paramount, but not everyone will think about that as being important if an issue were to arise. I like your homemade ideas for protecting gear. Thank you for sharing that and for the comments. 73!
Um, no. The nukes necessary for emp to take out, the US for instance, would be two. One over Co and another over GA and both higher in atmosphere. So, unless you are directly downwind from the two you likely won't even see any radiation until it circles the globe and is so dispersed you probably can't measure it. Now, if it is an all out war, that changes things dramatically. The most immediate issue will be radiation. Then after that, long term will be food etc. But, what will be useful at every stage is coms.
Ignore the negative comments. This is helpful. Thank you.
Thank you, I will. I found that you can 't please everyone and if some choose to live blind, it's not my problem. I just bring out the info and everyone can choose for themselves what they want to do. Thank you for your support!!! It is greatly appreciated. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
Good idea but if an EMP events occurs we have bigger problems. Communications is just one aspect of an overall strategy that you need to protect. My main SHTF radio will be my G90. With all the electronics wiped out the RFI should go way down after the EMP disburses and the G90's 20 Watts won't be a hinderence. But the AT in the G90 will come in hand as well as its low power draw. I think you are the first I have seen to mention protecting the solar panels; good idea.
I agree, there are many facets of things that will need to be tended to, but having the ability to communicate is a major one as well. Without going on a survivalist kick, just as a matter of common sense we should all have some preparations even if it is just a massive solar flare or something that could fry our equipment. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
If that happens wow it may be too late. It would be nice to have it in a back pack Thanks for information 👍
They actually have a waterproof backpack that might be right up your alley! Hopefully it never comes to where we have to use something like that, but even just for massive solar flares it would be a good idea. It happened in the 1800's and if the technology we have now existed then, it would have been wiped out. Thanks for watching Paul as always., Take care....73!!
emp bag? hmmm, seems extreme. Seems like a company taking advantage of your fears.
It also protects against solar flares and coronal mass elections which are real threats, so playing on fear isn't the idea, but rather common sense. Thanks for watching. 73
Check out EMPdoctor's video for a real test on these bags and a few extra tips - like not letting metal on your device touch the metallic fabric or layering bags!
ruclips.net/video/cxAOROKpguU/видео.html
Thanks for the tip and the link! IU will check it out! 73!