"Get rid of that Holley" best advice ever. I tried an Edelbrock and will never go back. Holleys have their place, but for street use its Edelbrock.Thanks, Jamie
I take every edelbrock off and throw it on a shelf. The ones who hate holleys don't know how to work on them or don't have the right one for their application. I've made money off that statement more times than I'd like to admit. "This holley is junk" okay bet you I can make it right. Let me see it and if it doesn't work right when I'm done, then I owe you money. Not once have I lost money on those bets.
@@noiseinthebushes6364 I can make it right also, but I would rather be driving. I also believe you when you say you've made a lot of money fixing Hollys. 🙂
@@codyhollinger6531 Edelbrock and Mopar are just meant to be together. Carter /Edelbrock had always been the carb of choice for the performance Mopars of the era
@@mark63366Well every single one of my vehicles run a holley all the way to my blown big block tow truck running two dominators on the street and not a single one is down because of carb choice. The reason why people love edlebrock is mostly laziness. Holleys require effort to be tuned. They don't hold all the fuel for you when disassembled so some hate that or don't clean and prep the surfaces correctly so they can't get them to seal. Or over tighten the screws and warp them. Edelbrock is simple and people like what they think is easier. I like a challenge and I'm not one to always take the easy way out. The fact is both carbs can be just as reliable. Anyone who says otherwise is very misinformed.
Found a 68 300 convertible years ago under a tree with a real rag top. Top was disintegrated with building materials in the trunk. Top was gone and back seat was full of leaves etc. Fired it up and drove it home. Good times.
@DeadDodgeGarage Jamie, this is a savagely cool C body. I appreciate the white 300 poptop most,, but this SuperTanker would have been absolutely the most bitchin' prom car a kid could have wished for. I did a fair job with landing a 67 Coronet 500 convert in cherry red for my junior prom,,, and a 68 Polara convertible in daffodil yellow for my senior prom. I guess now, I wouldn't change anything because those moments were absolutely nirvana as I look back.... but now I have a 68 300 poptop and a 66 Polara poptop to add to my high-school cars as well as a few others. Anyhow,,,, this blue meany is absolutely gorgeous..... and it's even prettier in my minds eye! The Imperial Eagle between those huge taillights is a masterstroke. I think I'm gonna have a large print of that made for my mancave wall.....
Great video. 1968 was the last year of the really high quality C body. After that, the dash started getting more and more plasticy. But that was the same across the industry.
what a treat to see the belly of the beast. Rarely does one get to see the rubber isolated torsion bar receiving cross member so well. Great explanation of the isolating body mounts.
After 1966 they were no longer riding on their own Imperial frame. Cost cutting measure for sure. I do like the back tail lights on these though. My '65 has a real walnut dash and trim with leather interior and bucket seats. The most carefully built car in America. Maybe anywhere else? These are all hard to find. I love that people still continue to keep these cars on the road!
Yep, replacing Holley with a Carter/Edelbrock is ALWAYS a good move. I learned that back in about 1989 when I made the mistake of putting a 600 Holley on my Roadrunner. I just could not get it to run right. Then, I bought a 780 T-Quad off a 77 Cordoba 400 for $20, bolted it on, and it worked great. One carb kit and 35 years later, it still works just fine.
I like all the old carbs. My 68 Chrysler 300 convertible was my first car and it had a Holly carb from the factory that ran perfect, didn’t leak. When Holleys get old, semi clogged and you try to tune them, leaks will spring up like crazy. I love Hollys. Edelbrocks are nice that you tune them once and they are set and forget. I run one on my 67 Skylark, only retuned it once when we moved out of elevation in Colorado. That carb has run perfect for 25 years, holds a perfect tune, no leaks or clogs. I love Edelbrocks. I just rebuilt my Rochester Quadrajet last week. Naturally I had just bragged it up on someone’s channel in my comment. I am deep into a huge refurbishment of a Korean War vintage giant military truck. So I ordered a cheap quadrajet knock off on eBay because I need that car running for a car show and I had a fresh nightmare of one I did a year ago and figured I will just rebuild my sweet original one after this military truck is done and gone. Had to have the car running fast with as little time spent as possible. The knockoff comes and it looks nice, they usually come set wide open on the idle, knowing that, best practice on almost any knock off carb is turn down the idle big time before firing it up. The fuel mixture screws are usually set fairly decently, usually best to vacuume tune those. The only other thing is check timing, in my case the engine is 100% custom and the cam information was lost 25 years ago. So if it was affected by the knock off I know I have to play with timing more advanced than a normal engine. So this knock off, no matter what would not run the motor, as I am adjusting on it, I can start the motor but can barely keep it running, I smell gas and this thing is leaking from what appears to be three different spots and I about burned the back of my hand on the electric choke, something inside must have shorted and turned the whole electric choke body to become pistol hot. That pistol hot and gas leaks have started puddles. Took the choke out of the equation and it still would not adjust out. Called the guy, he apologized and said he would immediately send another one. I get my rebuild kit out and it was so fast and so easy. The original carb had just coated itself internally of dried up gasoline additive gum, dust and grime from the three different motors I had it on in at least 25 years or so ago when I bought it used off a hot running motor. It runs absolutely perfectly again. So now I have two knockoffs, a known bad one and a new untested one, never left it’s box. I love Quadrajets, not digging the knockoffs yet but will try the second knockoff on the next motor that needs one after this truck is out of here.
Ragtops are the absolute best. I understand since you live in a temperate rain forest, a ragtop would not be your first choice. I get that. But from May through September 15 they are tough to beat, especially with an imperial with working climate control. I love taking my ragtop out right after a snowstorm when the air is clear and the sun is bright.
Ive had an Edelbrock on my 340 for 20 years and have never touched it. Still runs like the day I bolted it on. My buddy has a 67 mustang with a 302. Holley carb rebuilt and constant problems and rich. Told him to put an Edelbrock like my Cuda on. He did and car runs super.
I could use a "horse nay" vacation too. 😆. Another informative, entertaining, and just plain fun to watch video. 👍. I Love that yard ape jeep too you use for pulling cars at rocket.
At 4:53 it looks like you can see the hole in the unibody crossmember where the factory torched off the stock torsion bar mount to convert it to an Imperial.
Cool car! I didn't know after all these years that Chrysler had a tilt and telescopic steering column! I've only seen tilt, bet I never realized they were telescopic too! Probably because I was only grabbing the powertrain and taking the rest to the scrapper. I feel bad for that nowadays, but they helped several B bodies live on!👍
It was similar to what a Cadillac would have had. Saginaw steering. Later, say, 72-73 they had a different style with two wide spokes and a rim blow horn ring. The telescope was loosened by a lever on those, rather than the knob in the center.
@@musclecarmitch908 which is a shame. C bodies were much more expensive cars. Only benefit is they are still affordable. You see B bodies all over the place
That car is really cool! I agree with you on the green one being better since it has a roof. I prefer hardtops over convertibles any day. I imagine the optional and really neat rear A/C system on these wouldn’t be available on a convertible.
Yeah, it’s pretty cool, I believe they offered it on imperials through the mid 70’s, although the later ones mounted on the ceiling in front of the rear window and looked like they decreased rear vision quite a bit. The early ones had vents in the package tray under the rear window but I imagine that the evaporator unit took up some trunk space.
Imperials were equipped with Carter AFB & AVS 4bbl carbs until the late sixties when these square Holleys appeared. The Holleys were notorious for leaking, and most were replaced by AFBs or Edelbrocks.
Thanks for the info about Mopar "leaking sites". I'm finding that out now. Good to know it's not just me or my car, and that maybe the mechanic is not so bad after all. This will help my anger and trust issues 😖
the blue one is nice, that green one is really sweet. Anodized bronze with dark green, dang that was a good choice. You can always put in an Auto-Pilot.
If the Sentinel unit is not working, I think it has some capacitors in the control unit that can be replaced. It works great when it works and on these cars, can save wear and tear on the rare/fragile headlamp toggle switch.
Currently, just about nothing electrical is working. So I’ve got some other steps to go through before I get there. And I learned from the green car that there are headlight switch issues. It has a spare factory one in the door pocket, and an aftermarket switch under the dash…
I agree that the hardtops are better than the ragtops. I like the original dual exhaust, too bad your green one does not have it. It needs it. One thing that often works on flooding carburetors. Probably the needle does not seal due to crap on it. If you run the engine with the fuel line removed and empty the bowl, the float valve opens and the junk comes off. Then, when you reinstall the fuel, it actually seals when the float rises. But you are correct, these holleys installed in the factory regular 440s were known to be terrible, and most people replaced them with Carters.
Right. That’s what I’ve experienced, and I’ve heard it was a common issue in their day too. Good trick! I think the issue on this one is a blown power valve. But it could be more than that.
Grandma used to take me to pre-school in her Chrysler imperial, sitting on the armrest singing "Yes Jesus loves me" like we wrote the song. My music taste has changed, but I still think the imperials are cool rare jems. Land Yacht. Woodburn Mopar show Sunday, you going? I'll be rocking the rolled blue 77 w200.
I was strongly considering going, but I don’t think I will be there. I’ve got way too much going on in the next couple weeks and I need to pick my battles.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I get it. It's just under an hour of country roads to get there from where I am at. Road trips take more preparation. Mine will be hauling garbage Tomorrow and showing Sunday, lol.
Man, you have the best job - ever. Is Tom accepting resumes? 😊 My '68 New Yorker also had those same square side markers. That's serendipity for ya. Way back in the 90's, when I was given my New Yorker.... it ran pig-rich, too. It was also the 350-horse 440 with a Holley. I betcha this one has the same problem: stuck needle or sunken float and the back barrels were just glugging fuel into the engine. Seems to be a common problem. And I totally agree with you! Edelbrock for reliability but.... Holley if you want to make more power. I have both! My 5-speed Hornet has an Edelbrock, my Javelin has a Holley.
AVS isn’t spread bore though, it’s square just like the AFB. The early AFB is the smaller square pattern though. The AVS-2 is just about the best there is.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Maybe I will stop calling it a spread bore. It has 1-7/16 primaries and 1-11/16 secondaries. I spend hours learning how to adjust secondary door, worked great sounded even better.
when you remove the door panel to clean and grease up the window tracks, the driver's power window console area is lit by a small bulb. It is probably like the center ashtray bulb, or similar. It is tucked in right under the driver's door handle, it should have a blue cap over it to make the light aqua. The bulb usually needs replacement.
There is a whole story about the factory OEM Mopar Holley carbs, confirmed to me from talking to old time mechanics. They came on some big block Mopars from 1968 to 1972. Others of the same years had AVS's and, for 1972 400's a Thermoquad. So, the OEM carbs were made to a bid, meaning cost reduced. They leaked and had other problems. The dealers had orders to fix them about 3 times, and then no more. I think swapping fuel bowl and metering block gaskets, maybe milling things, were the first line of warranty repair attack . But, after three repars, a carb retro fit to the previous year's carb was authorized. For example, a 68 Chrysler 300 350 hp, auto, California, would have a AFB from a 1967 Chrysler 300 350 hp, auto, California. A 72 Road Runner GTX California Auto would get a AVS from 71 440 GTX auto, California. Including the fuel lines, air cleaner in some cases, fuel pump. The price of this swap was some where around 1800 dollars!. Which is nearly half the cost of the whole car! And that was Chrysler warranty paying the bill. Both the cars listed above had been converted before I bought them. I have no idea why the warranty substitution did not use a SAME year Carter from a different application rather than a PREVIOUS year carb from the SAME application, but I am guessing it was expected to fly better with the government. On the other hand, I had another 1972 GTX 440 Auto with the original Holley and it performed great and had now leaks or other issues, but it was relatively new. So, if you hate the OEM Holleys that does not mean you have to hate performance Holleys. If I had a 68 with the carb missing (I actually do) I would not go out of my way to find an original Holley for that application. They are hard to find (though not expensive) and rebuild kits are very hard to find and none have modern materials. I think I would use either a modern 1850 or a 3310. I would consider putting side pivot fuel bowls on the 3310. Either requires the linkage extension space the linkage out toward the passenger valve cover where it needs to be. That is about twenty dollars from Holley.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I think that is a good way to go, but I think the VACUUM secondary Holleys are fine for cruisers, too. The 1850 and 3310 types. PS: We need someone to make these types with material that is impervious to ethanol damage, such a stainless steel or ceramics.
I had to think back a few.. well not long but it was still a struggle... my non-tilt wheel M body had a droopy turn signal lever, and no brake lights, nor was it signaling my turns. It turned out the screw that holds the lever on had stripped threads. It had come so far out of holding it down that it lost contact to it's contacts. Local hardware store trip fixed that with a new screw & some thread locker.
@@DeadDodgeGarage One more option. Imp introd "stereo" in mid '67 and also offered 8 track at the same mid year time. The stereo multiplexer was in it's own metal box under one of the seats. I believe they ended the reverberator option when stereo started. But I could be wrong and you could check both '68s by pulling or pushing the fader knob inside the audio controls vestibule. If all it does is spin, then it's not reverb equipped. I figured you'd know what one is and you might have an interest being...guitar. So this was just about the reverb, those two cars don't have the door mounted speakers that came with stereo and/or 8 track.
introduced in 1965 models, the exclusive Imperial gauge "Sentry Signal" keeps an eye on your gauges for you. Low fuel or oil pressure, overheating, and no charge status are reported to the driver as soon as trouble arises. Soon to be replaced with individual LED bulbs at each gauge. *Not to be confused with automatic lighting "Sentinel".
Works great to burn out stumps as well, even in wet climates. Drill a bunch of holes in the stump and keep filling them with your waste oil/gas mix as it soaks in. It’ll push out the natural moisture and soak up the oil into the wood. Throw a fire ring around it and have a bonfire on the stump, it’ll burn right down into the dirt 👍
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1968, was the last overall excellent year for the domestic manufacturers.
A few years back, there appeared to be an absence of brake rotors for these cars. After some effort by a number of dedicated '67-68 Imperial owners, someone started reproductions. I wonder if all of that is still available.
Always loved an Imperial over the rest of the other C Bodies because they were fitted with the latest components. I had a Holley 500 2 barrel on my '77 Sport Fury 318, and shutting the engine off was an invitation for the float to stick on the down side just dumping raw fuel ⛽ just as the original carb forced me to swoop it out. Found out all I needed to do use a Ford wrench on it 😅. Enjoy 😊
I had one of these cars for a short while. My complaint was the power window noise. These were not the 64-66 Imperials, a few things were notably less substantial... I wonder if rubber mounts can be used on the power window regulator attaching points. I sold mine before I could monkey with that. So, Mechanic, when you're cleaning and greasing the window tracks, don't forget to clean out the power window transmission/motor, and grease. There's a shaft end play screw on the motor to adjust to the fastest speed. The noisy power window issue says good-bye 1966, hello C-body.
Dittos Jamie. My old man shadetree decades of experiences can confirm all you say here. Hell, I'd give that rascal a home now if most of the gadgets still worked on it. At my age, the last thing I want is to get into another major wiring thing. - Ed on the Ridge
Re: No Turn Signal/Brake Lights- it's been noted how the six rear lamps put a load on the turn signal switch, along with the front cornering lamp. The switch melts. That cornering lamp and fender top turn signal repeater bulb might be good candidates for an LED.
ignition switch died on my 86 yesterday. Yayyy tearing apart the column. Also managed to get abunch of water in the fuel tank today but thats fine 318s love water
"Get rid of that Holley" best advice ever. I tried an Edelbrock and will never go back. Holleys have their place, but for street use its Edelbrock.Thanks, Jamie
They have their place on the shelf.
I take every edelbrock off and throw it on a shelf. The ones who hate holleys don't know how to work on them or don't have the right one for their application. I've made money off that statement more times than I'd like to admit.
"This holley is junk" okay bet you I can make it right. Let me see it and if it doesn't work right when I'm done, then I owe you money. Not once have I lost money on those bets.
@@noiseinthebushes6364 I can make it right also, but I would rather be driving. I also believe you when you say you've made a lot of money fixing Hollys. 🙂
@@codyhollinger6531 Edelbrock and Mopar are just meant to be together. Carter /Edelbrock had always been the carb of choice for the performance Mopars of the era
@@mark63366Well every single one of my vehicles run a holley all the way to my blown big block tow truck running two dominators on the street and not a single one is down because of carb choice. The reason why people love edlebrock is mostly laziness. Holleys require effort to be tuned. They don't hold all the fuel for you when disassembled so some hate that or don't clean and prep the surfaces correctly so they can't get them to seal. Or over tighten the screws and warp them. Edelbrock is simple and people like what they think is easier. I like a challenge and I'm not one to always take the easy way out. The fact is both carbs can be just as reliable. Anyone who says otherwise is very misinformed.
Nothing will beat land yachts in my heart ❤️
Found a 68 300 convertible years ago under a tree with a real rag top. Top was disintegrated with building materials in the trunk. Top was gone and back seat was full of leaves etc. Fired it up and drove it home. Good times.
Good to see you getting that old drop top running again. Pretty rare, since only 474 were produced.
Wow, I had no idea they were *that* rare.
Like chicken dentures!@@DeadDodgeGarage
Awesome ! Imperials were well built, beautifully styled luxury automobiles. American Legend !
This dude is funny and like him and he seems like he knows a little bit about the older mopar's but love watching him
Appreciate that!
BRO....Jaime is freaking hilarious...keep watching...
@DeadDodgeGarage Jamie, this is a savagely cool C body. I appreciate the white 300 poptop most,, but this SuperTanker would have been absolutely the most bitchin' prom car a kid could have wished for. I did a fair job with landing a 67 Coronet 500 convert in cherry red for my junior prom,,, and a 68 Polara convertible in daffodil yellow for my senior prom. I guess now, I wouldn't change anything because those moments were absolutely nirvana as I look back.... but now I have a 68 300 poptop and a 66 Polara poptop to add to my high-school cars as well as a few others.
Anyhow,,,, this blue meany is absolutely gorgeous..... and it's even prettier in my minds eye!
The Imperial Eagle between those huge taillights is a masterstroke. I think I'm gonna have a large print of that made for my mancave wall.....
Great video. 1968 was the last year of the really high quality C body. After that, the dash started getting more and more plasticy. But that was the same across the industry.
what a treat to see the belly of the beast. Rarely does one get to see the rubber isolated torsion bar receiving cross member so well. Great explanation of the isolating body mounts.
Love those Imperials
MID-WEEK VIDEO!! YES!!! I needed this!!! THANK YOU!!
I really like the Edelbrock rebuild procedure, so simple just blow air in it.
Damn right!
I love the Green paint, but the blue one seems like it wants to be a Muscle-Car!
they all do that ;)
@@HelpingHand-ic4wt That's the Magic of Mopar
Warms the heart watching you work on the big bodies. The green imperial is you for sure. Tom will give you a great deal on it 👍
I love those big tanks. I don't want one, but I love them.
Imperials were always awesome. Some of them are still affordable too! Cheers! 😎👍🏎🏁🏁
I’m a Holley guy. My whole life. Don’t ever see me changing. But everyone has their favorite
Would have been a real pleasure drive in 68'..
Another outstanding Super Troopers reference. You win a litre of cola.
My Dad's 69 WSP Fury came with a Holley. I put on an AVS which made the 440 much happier.
Oh my gosh, a Wednesday dead Dodge garage video!? What a treat!
After 1966 they were no longer riding on their own Imperial frame. Cost cutting measure for sure. I do like the back tail lights on these though. My '65 has a real walnut dash and trim with leather interior and bucket seats. The most carefully built car in America. Maybe anywhere else?
These are all hard to find. I love that people still continue to keep these cars on the road!
Old C bodies and D bodies rule the road with their 413's/440's and size!
Jumping the starter relay with a screwdriver. That really takes me back. Good times.
Brought another one back to life!
Yep, replacing Holley with a Carter/Edelbrock is ALWAYS a good move. I learned that back in about 1989 when I made the mistake of putting a 600 Holley on my Roadrunner. I just could not get it to run right. Then, I bought a 780 T-Quad off a 77 Cordoba 400 for $20, bolted it on, and it worked great. One carb kit and 35 years later, it still works just fine.
That thing runs good! Strap a gun turret on and it’s ready for battle 😁
1) "Das Boot" lives! 2) That was a very nice cat.
A ‘56 300B I’m affiliated with has the same floor button radio seeker. It still works!
That sled has ALL the potential.
no i do not want to smell it. watching you having to deal with it is enough thank you.
P. U. !
@@danielulz1640 yea, that smell can make you not hungry. nice weather here in westport wa.
Put a sail on that boat! Awesome car!
Sweet MERCY !!
Mother of aircraft carrier 💖
@@butcher390 aircraft carrier! Now you’re speaking my language as well
Another successful resurrection! Great job J-man.
My Father had a 66 Imperial that he ordered new at the dealership with me along. Whew was that a car!
I like all the old carbs. My 68 Chrysler 300 convertible was my first car and it had a Holly carb from the factory that ran perfect, didn’t leak. When Holleys get old, semi clogged and you try to tune them, leaks will spring up like crazy. I love Hollys. Edelbrocks are nice that you tune them once and they are set and forget. I run one on my 67 Skylark, only retuned it once when we moved out of elevation in Colorado. That carb has run perfect for 25 years, holds a perfect tune, no leaks or clogs. I love Edelbrocks. I just rebuilt my Rochester Quadrajet last week. Naturally I had just bragged it up on someone’s channel in my comment. I am deep into a huge refurbishment of a Korean War vintage giant military truck. So I ordered a cheap quadrajet knock off on eBay because I need that car running for a car show and I had a fresh nightmare of one I did a year ago and figured I will just rebuild my sweet original one after this military truck is done and gone. Had to have the car running fast with as little time spent as possible. The knockoff comes and it looks nice, they usually come set wide open on the idle, knowing that, best practice on almost any knock off carb is turn down the idle big time before firing it up. The fuel mixture screws are usually set fairly decently, usually best to vacuume tune those. The only other thing is check timing, in my case the engine is 100% custom and the cam information was lost 25 years ago. So if it was affected by the knock off I know I have to play with timing more advanced than a normal engine. So this knock off, no matter what would not run the motor, as I am adjusting on it, I can start the motor but can barely keep it running, I smell gas and this thing is leaking from what appears to be three different spots and I about burned the back of my hand on the electric choke, something inside must have shorted and turned the whole electric choke body to become pistol hot. That pistol hot and gas leaks have started puddles. Took the choke out of the equation and it still would not adjust out. Called the guy, he apologized and said he would immediately send another one. I get my rebuild kit out and it was so fast and so easy. The original carb had just coated itself internally of dried up gasoline additive gum, dust and grime from the three different motors I had it on in at least 25 years or so ago when I bought it used off a hot running motor. It runs absolutely perfectly again. So now I have two knockoffs, a known bad one and a new untested one, never left it’s box. I love Quadrajets, not digging the knockoffs yet but will try the second knockoff on the next motor that needs one after this truck is out of here.
Just say no to those cheap Chinese copies… the BBDs I’ve dealt with were absolutely unusable.
Ragtops are the absolute best. I understand since you live in a temperate rain forest, a ragtop would not be your first choice. I get that. But from May through September 15 they are tough to beat, especially with an imperial with working climate control. I love taking my ragtop out right after a snowstorm when the air is clear and the sun is bright.
I always love to see you working on C bodies. Slab or Fuselage, I also love them with an actual roof😎
Mr. Ignition strikes again, great job Jamie.
Ive had an Edelbrock on my 340 for 20 years and have never touched it. Still runs like the day I bolted it on. My buddy has a 67 mustang with a 302. Holley carb rebuilt and constant problems and rich. Told him to put an Edelbrock like my Cuda on. He did and car runs super.
Great video, Jamie. Nothing like resurrecting the old girls. Like you know, it's mostly basic stuff that gets them going again.
Yeah the old fords trucks anyways had the steal me box mounted up on the fender too, super handy 👍
Surprised to see a Holley on that car...god content and thanks...🔧🔧👍
I could use a "horse nay" vacation too. 😆. Another informative, entertaining, and just plain fun to watch video. 👍. I Love that yard ape jeep too you use for pulling cars at rocket.
Y'all come up with the coolest cars ever!
Nice, I truly want my front end and brakes fixed on mine 🙏
Another fine Mopar !
At 4:53 it looks like you can see the hole in the unibody crossmember where the factory torched off the stock torsion bar mount to convert it to an Imperial.
That fuel diluted oil is PERFECT for getting your burn pile going.
Being a fellow west of the Cascades dweller, I KNOW you have a burn pile!
Tom does 😅
Cool car! I didn't know after all these years that Chrysler had a tilt and telescopic steering column! I've only seen tilt, bet I never realized they were telescopic too! Probably because I was only grabbing the powertrain and taking the rest to the scrapper. I feel bad for that nowadays, but they helped several B bodies live on!👍
It was similar to what a Cadillac would have had.
Saginaw steering.
Later, say, 72-73 they had a different style with two wide spokes and a rim blow horn ring. The telescope was loosened by a lever on those, rather than the knob in the center.
@@musclecarmitch908 which is a shame. C bodies were much more expensive cars. Only benefit is they are still affordable. You see B bodies all over the place
Love them big cars! I can never get my hands on a decent Imperial! Just great parts
Also we all know what happens to those Imp Frames!
Good job with that. Even as sick as you are.
Like sick in the head? Lol
@DeadDodgeGarage hmmm this was meant for a completely other video. Not sure how this happened.
My 1960 Imperial even has that foot button radio preset.
Neat!
You need a Y-body, Jamie! Great video. Thank you! 🙂
always intertaining thank you!
you should send all your viewers a sample of the old oil so they can watch this again and experience "smell O Vision" :) when you drain the oil
Brilliant!!
@@DeadDodgeGarage that's why I love the 57,58, 59 imperials
Thank you Jamie
That car is really cool! I agree with you on the green one being better since it has a roof. I prefer hardtops over convertibles any day. I imagine the optional and really neat rear A/C system on these wouldn’t be available on a convertible.
Oh, I wasn’t even aware that was an option!
Yeah, it’s pretty cool, I believe they offered it on imperials through the mid 70’s, although the later ones mounted on the ceiling in front of the rear window and looked like they decreased rear vision quite a bit. The early ones had vents in the package tray under the rear window but I imagine that the evaporator unit took up some trunk space.
Love the can do attitude
Imperials were equipped with Carter AFB & AVS 4bbl carbs until the late sixties when these square Holleys appeared. The Holleys were notorious for leaking, and most were replaced by AFBs or Edelbrocks.
So I’ve heard!
Ahhhh, is that a 1969 charger 500 at the beginning, I want to come so bad and check your guys shop out!
Sounds so good ❤
Thanks for the info about Mopar "leaking sites". I'm finding that out now. Good to know it's not just me or my car, and that maybe the mechanic is not so bad after all. This will help my anger and trust issues 😖
No it’s not just you. Haha.
Ive been known to dabble in the fine art of a one tire fire myself good sir!
I think that we would make great shop-mates, mate!
I learned years ago, weber/carter/edelbrock were the way to go. TQ's are my favorite carb ever. BBD's are awesome also. imho.
the blue one is nice, that green one is really sweet. Anodized bronze with dark green, dang that was a good choice. You can always put in an Auto-Pilot.
If the Sentinel unit is not working, I think it has some capacitors in the control unit that can be replaced. It works great when it works and on these cars, can save wear and tear on the rare/fragile headlamp toggle switch.
Currently, just about nothing electrical is working. So I’ve got some other steps to go through before I get there. And I learned from the green car that there are headlight switch issues. It has a spare factory one in the door pocket, and an aftermarket switch under the dash…
I agree that the hardtops are better than the ragtops. I like the original dual exhaust, too bad your green one does not have it. It needs it. One thing that often works on flooding carburetors. Probably the needle does not seal due to crap on it. If you run the engine with the fuel line removed and empty the bowl, the float valve opens and the junk comes off. Then, when you reinstall the fuel, it actually seals when the float rises. But you are correct, these holleys installed in the factory regular 440s were known to be terrible, and most people replaced them with Carters.
Right. That’s what I’ve experienced, and I’ve heard it was a common issue in their day too. Good trick! I think the issue on this one is a blown power valve. But it could be more than that.
It’s about to set sail
Seats about 20!
Ive had an Edelbrock on my 70 almost 20 years its only been adjusted once in all that time!
Grandma used to take me to pre-school in her Chrysler imperial, sitting on the armrest singing "Yes Jesus loves me" like we wrote the song. My music taste has changed, but I still think the imperials are cool rare jems. Land Yacht. Woodburn Mopar show Sunday, you going? I'll be rocking the rolled blue 77 w200.
I was strongly considering going, but I don’t think I will be there. I’ve got way too much going on in the next couple weeks and I need to pick my battles.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I get it. It's just under an hour of country roads to get there from where I am at. Road trips take more preparation. Mine will be hauling garbage Tomorrow and showing Sunday, lol.
Dude!!! Love it!
Man, you have the best job - ever. Is Tom accepting resumes? 😊
My '68 New Yorker also had those same square side markers.
That's serendipity for ya. Way back in the 90's, when I was given my New Yorker.... it ran pig-rich, too. It was also the 350-horse 440 with a Holley. I betcha this one has the same problem: stuck needle or sunken float and the back barrels were just glugging fuel into the engine. Seems to be a common problem.
And I totally agree with you! Edelbrock for reliability but.... Holley if you want to make more power.
I have both! My 5-speed Hornet has an Edelbrock, my Javelin has a Holley.
Not sure 😅
I just bought a New Yorker with a Thermoquad. It dumps fuel into the secondaries. I went with an AVS, spread bore wins over an AFB.
AVS isn’t spread bore though, it’s square just like the AFB. The early AFB is the smaller square pattern though. The AVS-2 is just about the best there is.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Maybe I will stop calling it a spread bore. It has 1-7/16 primaries and 1-11/16 secondaries. I spend hours learning how to adjust secondary door, worked great sounded even better.
when you remove the door panel to clean and grease up the window tracks, the driver's power window console area is lit by a small bulb. It is probably like the center ashtray bulb, or similar. It is tucked in right under the driver's door handle, it should have a blue cap over it to make the light aqua. The bulb usually needs replacement.
Love them Imps!
There is a whole story about the factory OEM Mopar Holley carbs, confirmed to me from talking to old time mechanics. They came on some big block Mopars from 1968 to 1972. Others of the same years had AVS's and, for 1972 400's a Thermoquad. So, the OEM carbs were made to a bid, meaning cost reduced. They leaked and had other problems. The dealers had orders to fix them about 3 times, and then no more.
I think swapping fuel bowl and metering block gaskets, maybe milling things, were the first line of warranty repair attack . But, after three repars, a carb retro fit to the previous year's carb was authorized. For example, a 68 Chrysler 300 350 hp, auto, California, would have a AFB from a 1967 Chrysler 300 350 hp, auto, California.
A 72 Road Runner GTX California Auto would get a AVS from 71 440 GTX auto, California. Including the fuel lines, air cleaner in some cases, fuel pump. The price of this swap was some where around 1800 dollars!. Which is nearly half the cost of the whole car!
And that was Chrysler warranty paying the bill.
Both the cars listed above had been converted before I bought them.
I have no idea why the warranty substitution did not use a SAME year Carter from a different application rather than a PREVIOUS year carb from the SAME application, but I am guessing it was expected to fly better with the government.
On the other hand, I had another 1972 GTX 440 Auto with the original Holley and it performed great and had now leaks or other issues, but it was relatively new.
So, if you hate the OEM Holleys that does not mean you have to hate performance Holleys.
If I had a 68 with the carb missing (I actually do) I would not go out of my way to find an original Holley for that application. They are hard to find (though not expensive) and rebuild kits are very hard to find and none have modern materials.
I think I would use either a modern 1850 or a 3310. I would consider putting side pivot fuel bowls on the 3310. Either requires the linkage extension space the linkage out toward the passenger valve cover where it needs to be. That is about twenty dollars from Holley.
I’ve got a 750 double pumper on the Demon, and others in the pile for performance uses. But when we’re talking street cars, we’re talking Edelbrock.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I think that is a good way to go, but I think the VACUUM secondary Holleys are fine for cruisers, too.
The 1850 and 3310 types.
PS: We need someone to make these types with material that is impervious to ethanol damage, such a stainless steel or ceramics.
Man I want that car! I've never had a floppy roof car.
i love this car!!!
Team Edelbrock Forever!
Love my AVS2!
I had to think back a few.. well not long but it was still a struggle... my non-tilt wheel M body had a droopy turn signal lever, and no brake lights, nor was it signaling my turns. It turned out the screw that holds the lever on had stripped threads. It had come so far out of holding it down that it lost contact to it's contacts. Local hardware store trip fixed that with a new screw & some thread locker.
Good one, but again, I think the issue with this car is power feeds. There is no power getting to all sorts of stuff.
@@DeadDodgeGarage One more option. Imp introd "stereo" in mid '67 and also offered 8 track at the same mid year time. The stereo multiplexer was in it's own metal box under one of the seats. I believe they ended the reverberator option when stereo started. But I could be wrong and you could check both '68s by pulling or pushing the fader knob inside the audio controls vestibule. If all it does is spin, then it's not reverb equipped. I figured you'd know what one is and you might have an interest being...guitar. So this was just about the reverb, those two cars don't have the door mounted speakers that came with stereo and/or 8 track.
introduced in 1965 models, the exclusive Imperial gauge "Sentry Signal" keeps an eye on your gauges for you. Low fuel or oil pressure, overheating, and no charge status are reported to the driver as soon as trouble arises. Soon to be replaced with individual LED bulbs at each gauge.
*Not to be confused with automatic lighting "Sentinel".
Very interesting!
That gas filled oil nobody will take makes a pretty good fire starter, that's one way to get rid of it.
I would never do that… but I know a guy 👀
@@DeadDodgeGarage Haha, works great for bonfires. Not sure I'd do it in a wood stove with a chimney though.
Works great to burn out stumps as well, even in wet climates. Drill a bunch of holes in the stump and keep filling them with your waste oil/gas mix as it soaks in. It’ll push out the natural moisture and soak up the oil into the wood. Throw a fire ring around it and have a bonfire on the stump, it’ll burn right down into the dirt 👍
1968, was the last overall excellent year for the domestic manufacturers.
She's a beauty!
I'm with you , I have no use for the floppy roofs.
Prettiest original paint car I ever saw on the road was an Imperial, had to be garage kept, and the driver was only a little older than me
I'd welcome the chance to work with you Jamie especially if we were working on my 71 Bee.
A few years back, there appeared to be an absence of brake rotors for these cars. After some effort by a number of dedicated '67-68 Imperial owners, someone started reproductions. I wonder if all of that is still available.
@24:30, whoa...love the fan clutch.
She’s a solid performer 😅
Always loved an Imperial over the rest of the other C Bodies because they were fitted with the latest components. I had a Holley 500 2 barrel on my '77 Sport Fury 318, and shutting the engine off was an invitation for the float to stick on the down side just dumping raw fuel ⛽ just as the original carb forced me to swoop it out. Found out all I needed to do use a Ford wrench on it 😅. Enjoy 😊
I had one of these cars for a short while. My complaint was the power window noise. These were not the 64-66 Imperials, a few things were notably less substantial... I wonder if rubber mounts can be used on the power window regulator attaching points. I sold mine before I could monkey with that.
So, Mechanic, when you're cleaning and greasing the window tracks, don't forget to clean out the power window transmission/motor, and grease. There's a shaft end play screw on the motor to adjust to the fastest speed.
The noisy power window issue says good-bye 1966, hello C-body.
It’s funny how the old family type cars hardly ever rust out yet the sporty type cars start rusting within 5-10 years.
There’s a fairly easy explanation there - the hard top design.
Dittos Jamie. My old man shadetree decades of experiences can confirm all you say here.
Hell, I'd give that rascal a home now if most of the gadgets still worked on it.
At my age, the last thing I want is to get into another major wiring thing.
- Ed on the Ridge
I have a feeling it may be on the simpler end of things, but that yet to be seen.
Re: No Turn Signal/Brake Lights- it's been noted how the six rear lamps put a load on the turn signal switch, along with the front cornering lamp. The switch melts. That cornering lamp and fender top turn signal repeater bulb might be good candidates for an LED.
Fair point, but I believe this is a missing power feed issue, because so much stuff is dead.
@@DeadDodgeGaragedisregard this entry, I reconsidered a diagnosis.
7:18 Says, "really nothing super horrible under here" while staring at a Fram oil filter.😮
Right 🤣 I did remove that moments later.
I would love to have a classic Imperial,but with a Thermoqaud swap
Nice bernie sanders at the end 😂
Wait did I do a Bernie sanders? Lol
ignition switch died on my 86 yesterday. Yayyy tearing apart the column. Also managed to get abunch of water in the fuel tank today but thats fine 318s love water
Almost as much as flat heads do…
I got rid of my holley after it started leaking from everywhere after being parked for the winter.