4h is one of the things that makes me happy and spending time with the animal that I am are showing. The animal that I show is steer. Dani you inspire me to work harder because how hard you work and how good you are at taking care of your animals and you can tell that your animals love you so much.
Your mom is so logical and inclusive while you're both still doing your thing regardless of what other people think. Great premise to the video as well. Thanks.
I did 4h back before my parents got divorced. Loved meeting all of the cool people in the community. Sadly now that my parents have gone separate ways I spend more time in the car than outside, haven’t done much for showing even my horses. I can imagine giving up the animals would be very hard.😢 Hoping now that things are getting a little more stable, I might start to show my horses and maybe get back into 4h too. But for now just going to live vicariously through you, so keep the blue ribbons coming!!!😂
Dani you are such a hardworking beautiful young lady, you have such a amazing future ahead of you!! Keep up the hard work and trust me it doesn't go unnoticed!! You have a true fan here 🙂
Dani! I’m so sorry about what the people say about you and fellow horse girls that are out there. You guys are trying your best to succeed. ❤️ They don’t know a thing about your personal life. Why do people hate on others bc of what they work for? Anyways, AWESOME AND SUCH AN INSPIRATIONAL VIDEO!!! Not just that, but this video has been posted on my birthday. 💖💖😊😊 #blessed. Also, don’t listen to the hate, and know that I and your true fans will be with you the whole way. Can’t wait to see what your future holds! 😃 #danithehorsegirl
I think there is a lot more to say here. Every journey is a different one and many animals give their lives to sustain ours and it's ok! I don't understand anything about 4h though and can't figure our what was upsetting about getting 2nd? Definitely an amazing idea to really open this up and explain a world that many of us don't understand! Lastly, dani clearly is so passionate about her animals... there could never be any doubt about where her heart is.
I'm a rodeo cowboy a calf roper and 4H is the best thingthese kids learn so much from it and these people that are so far against it what do they think their lamb chops come from or their pork loin or their pork chops or their ground beef or their steaks I mean it is absolutely crazy these people God bless these kids they're doing the right thing they're learning they're learning about feed consumption wait so I love to see this on RUclips way to go
I'm so happy that you guys are promoting 4H and explaining to people about market animals. I cannot even begin to tell you how being in 4H myself from ages 8 to 18 shaped me as a person. I showed horses but my sister showed dairy and beef cows, also did sewing cooking and even one year a pair of champion chickens..Lol. the work that is put into these projects is incredible. It was our whole world. It taught us responsibility social skills animal husbandry and how so many life long friends and connections that even at age 49 I still maintain. I grew up on a family farm over 200 acres with horses and cattle mainly. We grew our vegetables had our own chickens and butchered our own animals for meat. I learned where my food came from and the sacrifice that animal made for us to be able to eat. I was humbled and respectful and greatly appreciative of that sacrifice. Whether you choose to eat meat or not in my opinion there is a humane respectful way to do so. Dani was very emotional and rightfully so. She put her heart and soul into her projects. But I can tell she also understands a way of life some aren't so lucky to experience. Good job parents and Dani.
Thank you for making this video. My daughter just joined 4H and we haven’t been able to fully experience any of this. Cant wait to know as much about animals as you ladies do.
Congrats! Keep up the good work! It is important to spread the 4-H word and the benefits for our youth. I found your video looking for 4-H hashtags for my own volunteerism!
HOW DO YOU FIND TIME TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS?!?!?!? I barely have enough time for horses let alone all of these other animals. You guys are so amazing.
@@DaniTheHorseGirl I thought Diego belonged to a friend of your that was in college but there's a video on the channel that has manzor I forget the name but there a video that says chocking horses and it looks just like Diego?
when i showed my pig me, my sister, my step brother, and my other step brother all cried when our pigs got loaded into the van. 4-h is still really fun and I love it!
Alabama 4-Her right here!! I do livestock education contests (Quizbowl and Skillathon) and am currently reigning state champion 2 years in a row in both contests! I have personally never been in the position to own livestock or I would have loved to show! But I am always happy to see videos of other 4-Her's! :)
I am showing my chicken but not for market, and then my pig who I will be showing for market in april. It was really hard to try and find people who would help me pay for my pig (I have to buy my own) because everyone thought it was crul to do it because you are I giess just raising them to soon get killed. I have never had my sister come to any of the shows even like the small animal show because she thinks it is messed up. It really annoys me because people are saying this but we have a huge bond with our anumals, and like you have said, we put so much time and love into these animals that it is very hard to let them go, there has been not 1 year that I have not cried after my pig got picked up to go to slaughter. People think we do it for the money, some of us do but I sure do it for the experiece, it makes me soooo happy to be out with my animals everyday and bonding with them. Good luck on your future projects, and very good job at the show, that cow was looking great, and the way you set up the goats were amazing!
After seeing the video, I googled "4H crying" and there are surprisingly many parents who have taken photos of their childrens' heartbreak. For obvious reasons, most parents would refrain from that. Either how, whether there are photos or not, these parents are knowingly encouraging and approving of their own childrens' potential heartbreak. No matter whether anger or frustration comes in from reading this, isn't it the case that this heartbreak is likely to be part of the process? And so, they then necessarily must be consenting to it? How can it be any other way if the animals are in the care of the children from an early age? Trust is built and a relationship is unavoidable; isn't that friendship between species alike to the relationships children form to dogs? Isn't it the case that children come to love dogs, just as any animal in their care? Why would a parent consent to destroy such a bond? I write it as "destroy" because this is an intentional act - the heartbreak is intentional. How could it be any other way if it is part of the "learning process"? Additionally, the children must have had a "good heart" as its close to impossible to break a person who is already heartbroken - there is just no way the parents don't know what awaits a perfectly innocent animal who often is loving and trusting to their caretaker, and in this case, their child(ren). Now then, I realize there are plenty of ways to rationalize this. I didn't just google "4H crying", I also clicked links and read various comment sections. Surprisingly, or perhaps not, there were plenty of people who had partaken in 4H who had, as adults or adolescents, come to realize that what they had suspected as children which is that they had not been aware of what they consented to with this "life lesson". I think this aspect is incredibly important and completely overlooked. A child or teenager, legally, but also in terms of their personal development, can't consent, which is why many countries draw the line at 16-18 years of age for different types of endevours. So whenever it is a big deal, people are required to be of a certain age. Obviously, children can seemingly consent to adult choices: Parents who bring up children into sects also have noble intentions with their own justifications, and this works because the children don't know any better, and moreso, children are willing to do a lot for both the approval of their parents and their community, even things that are immoral. Don't blindly stop or get stuck at me comparing it to sects, it's not about how alike it is to sects, rather, the point is that children are willing to follow along the path of the family tradition of which they are born into - without being able to consent. There are child soldiers, right? There are children of dictators who follow in their parents' path, and so on. It is the same "growing up" but different societal or family traditions that they end up following, and so no matter what cruelty they partake of, they are mostly doing so because of adults who have justified the path before them. And yes, I'm aware that there are multiple justifications that are suggested to these children so that they can cope with it: "money", "affording an education", "to feed the population", "they had a good (extremely short) life", "it has always been done", "it must be done", "we are so proud", "my child learned a lot", etc. Humans can cope with just about any atrocities with the right justifications: slavery, abuse, mass killings, sexual exploitation. All four must be part of the necessary "good" of animal agriculture. The mass killings are also mostly infants of other species - of the species which tradition decided. Isn't it the case that these animals often don't live to be much older than 1 years with some exceptions? More often, significantly less, despite of their good health and vigor, and perhaps especially because of that; When they are young, they are tasty, and when old, much less so - profit and/or loss dictates. But let's go back and ask "why must it be justified"? Shouldn't what is good be inherently good? Isn't that how we know that love is good? Love is good simply for being love: it is inherent. Isn't the heartbreak of the child a breaking away from the inherent good of the children? One step away from this inherent good and one step into a justified societal or traditional "good"? So in the presence of an inherent good, the children go ahead with its exact opposite, even if it must break their hearts. All for the approval of their parents and society, or perhaps for money - often, all of these - the children are after all dealing with a significant loss that needs to be justified. Who knows? Perhaps in extreme cases children are told these animals go to a "better place" as if they were done a favor? I don't know, but surely it does occur. Now I'm not stating that anyone is "evil", I don't believe in such nonsense. There are no evil people, only blind or unhappy people, who believe that whatever they are doing is "good" - and I am not unlike to that. I understand that there are societal and traditional "good:s" that justify whatever cruelty that exist in the world, whether these are selfish or for a larger community: for some good measure both are justified. Still though, I just find this incredible saddening. That at the face of an inherent good, that these children are taught to find other "profitable good:s" that are not inherently good, but require strong justifications. Well-being exists in that which needs no justification or defending, and it is that which is at risk of being jeopardized whenever adults make children follow the same pattern of tradition. Hopefully this made someone reflect on their life. Doesn't need to be about this particular topic, but any sort of blind betrayal of "inherent good" at any point in life. If you can identify that within you, then I'll be happy to know that I took the time to write this. I'm sure everyone has been in this position at some point in their life, but I also know that many people won't recognize it until they have distanced themselves from whatever they are fully invested in: why people for example stay in abusive relationships and how the abusive part only becomes evident once they have distanced themselves. Anyhow, investigate whether what I have written is warranted or not. There is well-being to be had by aligning with this "inherent good" ❤🩹take care of yourselves.
Hello @@boogiekang619! :) Undoubtedly, that is always the case. But whenever there is abuse or risk of abuse, even if there is none, an outsider with an outside perspective may help. That is pretty much what the following people do: therapists, business advicers, relationship counselors, cult deprogrammer, parents, friends, siblings etc. The outside view can be equally valid as the inside view, yet they differ. Obviously a football spectator can not advice a professional football player on how to play football because it is a practiced art, but they may have valid input for psychological, financial, relationships, etc. People even pay for an outside perspective, that's how valueable it can be for some people. My intention is good and I wish well-being upon all, and I would perhaps agree with you more if I had written a mindless or half-hearted comment; but it is obviously not the case. My message is a reaction to both the stories of children who grew up to regret parts of the experience as well as a reaction to the photos of crying children. I believe it is much worse to ignore that, then pretend it is problem-free practice without any psychological implications. Maybe I missunderstood you, but it should be fairly easy to invalidate what I have written if the difference you highlighted is significant to what I have written. What you have replied is vague. If you don't mind, please explain this significance of stated difference and I will address it properly.
@@CreamColoredFlower you obviously have never been in 4-H have you instead of judging us or jumping to conclusions how about you start asking us what it's like to be in 4-H
I sighed up for 4h last year but then Covid came along so so far i have not been able to comete in any 4h compositions but when all this is over I plan to show my cows and My horses
This is soo cool I I’m in middle school and we have 4-H and we have a livestock judging team!! And I’m on the team soo I was soo entertained watching this!! Loved the vid!
I know it’s not easy to put your animal that you raised for market and having to show them and have to let them go , it’s hard to to know that when I’m judging! So I feel you Dani
I am almost done with my first year of 4-H and I am doing swine. All I can say is that even thinking about the day that I have to let my pig go, already brings emotions. Beautiful sheep and steer ❤
@@princessviolet4522 I don't think you can do that when you're doing market pigs for 4-H but if they are given back you could but it's rare if it happens but it's possible who knows but some market projects are given back but pigs and cows it rarely happens
I usually don't comment but I just like to say I show market lamb and this was my first time showing I loved it will always do it but in definitely not easy to sell . We 4hers put a lot of time in to are animals. Time ,sweat and tears but I would never change it for the world.
People hate what they dont understand or dont have knowledge on so.... I usually keep my thoughts to myself but people need to learn its been a way of life for soooooo long and hating on people who are trying to make a living or hating a channel for doing it isnt right and people need to understand that in order for you to have meat an animal needs to die... Sorry if i offended anyone but its true
This was really helpful and informative. Does anyone know of any video's or source material for someone new to 4-H, Shows, Livestock and Stationary ect? I mean beginner level 101?
I have a question I am a 4H member and I have only been doing one meat action a year but could I sell a bird or something at any other fair I go to that year or is it just one auction a year
Yes! I raise steers and lambs for market. I purchase the animals, train them myself, pay for all of the feed myself, then sell them at a 4H auction at the end of summer. We have to keep market books, which we use to track our expenses such as feed and vet bills, and log the growth of the animals. This all teaches kids like myself how to raise animals for market. It is a lot of hard work but very rewarding.
How can you love an animal and send them to have their throat slit? Wish you guys would see the difference between a "hater" and someone who wants to protect animals from unnecessary harm. So sad that y'all are aware of veganism and still choose to slit animals throats. It's one thing to be unaware and a whole other thing to be aware and still choose to harm.
Alisia maybe you should go relearn your facts instead of spreading false information ththese kids worked so hard for their projects why don't you leave those kids alone I'm not gonna let you or anyone else harass those kids I'm not gonna let you or anyone else run them to the ground I'm not gonna let you or anyone else take their hard work from them these kids worked so hard and I'm not gonna let yall mess that up for them
@@boogiekang619 telling a kid they have the choice to not be violent towards animals is not harassing them or running them into the ground. But I would definitely say that telling kids to toughen up and send their animal to slaughter when they don't want to and don't have to is child abuse. I grew up riding horses so I am very aware of the mindsets and arguments used in favor of animal abuse. It is so sad that when children love animals we teach them to breed and kill them and see them as inanimate objects, when we can instead teach them to care for animals with the animals best interest in mind rather than our own ego, profit, trophy/ribbon winning, ect. We could have kids work just as hard if not harder on Vegan sanctuaries. And that would look just as good on a résumé or college application. There's truly no need for this unnecessary violence.
@@boogiekang619 feel free to tell me what false information I am spreading. Also I never denied that they work hard but they can work hard on a vegan sanctuary where they care for animals without unnecessary violence.
People don't have any idea how hard we work train or even taken care of our animals 4-H FFA OPENSHOW or any farm animal exhibitor job is not easy or abuse like many people think
I get hungry so I'm glad there are animals that are raised for meat... Thank you. I think your doing a great job... I also like lamb chops. I would have bought that lamb however your very far from me. ;-)
I feel so bad for the kids who raise the cow and such then they have to sell them for meat. I don’t really like 4-H because I don’t like that kids have to get an animal from they where baby’s then sell them for meat I don’t want to hate or anything I’m jus5 saying what I think of 4-H
I can understand that perspective! But as a 4H kid, I can say that I love learning and what I learn from each animal. It isn't easy, but important to learn as I plan to be a farmer/rancher when I grow up
I was called an animal killer by meat eaters. They thought I loved killing animals because I would participate in FFA. I loved my steer named Williams. I cried when I got in the car after loading him on the trailer at county. City slickers don’t know where their food comes from. Either that be meat or produce. I since graduated but I still remember what it takes to raise animals knowing they’d be sold. It’s a great feeling both ways. We’re feeding hundreds of people while also getting college money.
I don't think it was meat eaters calling you that I think it was vegans because they're against agriculture but they don't know how much we care about our animals
@@boogiekang619 I think they were switching over because they said they loved meat. But like you said their words don’t say it. I loved my steer. I hate getting emotional in public when it came to losing someone or something. So when I was alone. I bawled for hours for weeks after my auction.
@@boogiekang619 true that! They don’t know what it’s like to get attached to an animal for a year and then sell for college funds and for food to feed the world.
@@sd.lulu.multipurpose5306 exactly but it really pisses me off that these vegans run their mouth like zoe Rosenberg alisia demi keegan it Real jonathon roehm Jennifer babygirl andrew infernaldragon jeffery ali tracy from asha eric roi earthling ed tash Peterson joey carbstrong Brian kirkwood alsondra roi peta or their idiot vegan followers they know nothing about 4-H FFA or OPENSHOW they have no idea how hard we work train or even taken care of our animals they have no clue how much time and money we put into our animals you know
Ok i am sorta in 4-H but I do AGG and FFA so I still show but I just show in FFA and AGG but I show one goat right now if you want to follow him on Instagram at brooklyn_przybylski_goats
I personally dont agree with this kind of thing..i believe that all animals should live the life that they deserve..not the way humans think they should.....but there is no hate from me...i just dont believe in this kind of stuff and i would lobe u guys to stop giving your animals (the ones that u raised and loved) to sluaghter....i know it is really really hard to lose animals so please...is this actually what the animals want in their life...think about the animals...not just about the money and food
Please 4-H, stop the animal cruelty, it is also bad for your organization to be associated with such cruelty in terms of your public image, so please, have compassion on animals.
poor girl knows she is doing something horrible and wrong, but she fakes a smile for her mom becuase thats how she gets praise in her family, by abusing animals and sending them to sluaghter. Ever heard of a sanctuary?? Why not send the animals to a sanctuary where you can visit them for the rest of their life.
You don't know how this girl is raised don't criticize her because she does 4-H it's her happiness and joy it's what she loves yes it's sad to sell yes but not everyone sells their projects and sometimes they are given back but that doesn't mean it's abuse it's about learning how to farm and learn the experience of agriculture
I don’t like that you spent the early part of the video trying to play victim about pitching animals for sale, you’re gonna get hate for it that’s the internet and now you’ve opened yourself to more hate by trying to rationalize why you shouldn’t get hate. You’re not special sorry I could post a video of a flower in the breeze and someone would find a reason to flame it
You don’t have to like it. I’m not playing the victim, we are telling our experience and I don’t think that I’m special. I’ve gotten hate on my videos since I started making them, it’s not new to me. Hate also isn’t something that I need rationalized to me by a stranger. By sharing our experiences on the internet, we expect it, as human nature can’t help but spread hate. However that won’t keep me from being positive. ✌🏻
@@DaniTheHorseGirl I think I came off more hostile than I intended, I stand by what I said minus calling you a victim and implying you thought you were special, but to give some context I think there’s nothing wrong with anything y’all are doing and 4H is great and you and your daughter seem to be doing a great job as well.
Same. I love cattle way too much. We condemn horse meat, so why do we eat other animals like cows? I love this channel but I will never ever do 4h because of what happens to these innocent animals.
It is not cruel these animals get way better taken care of than the dogs and cats that are owned by vegans Making them vegan is abuse because vegan diet is not good for them
I was always in 4-H and it was one of the best times of my life.
4h is such a life saver!
Not for the animals….
@@flurg leave the kid alone
@@flurg you know nothing about 4-H
4h is one of the things that makes me happy and spending time with the animal that I am are showing. The animal that I show is steer. Dani you inspire me to work harder because how hard you work and how good you are at taking care of your animals and you can tell that your animals love you so much.
My cousin was the judge and my family has been part of 4H for as long as I can remember
4-H is an experience every child should have.
4-h is one of my favorite things to do. This year is my first year of taking a steer but my third year in 4-h
I'm showing a market steer too. Good job!!
THIS WAS SOOOOO COOL
Your mom is so logical and inclusive while you're both still doing your thing regardless of what other people think. Great premise to the video as well. Thanks.
I did 4h back before my parents got divorced. Loved meeting all of the cool people in the community. Sadly now that my parents have gone separate ways I spend more time in the car than outside, haven’t done much for showing even my horses. I can imagine giving up the animals would be very hard.😢 Hoping now that things are getting a little more stable, I might start to show my horses and maybe get back into 4h too. But for now just going to live vicariously through you, so keep the blue ribbons coming!!!😂
Abby’s Adventures ❤️ sorry you have all that going on!! I hope you get back in the show ring soon!!
Thanks♥️♥️♥️
Dani you are such a hardworking beautiful young lady, you have such a amazing future ahead of you!! Keep up the hard work and trust me it doesn't go unnoticed!! You have a true fan here 🙂
Thank you so much!!!
@@DaniTheHorseGirl You are so welcome 😊😊
Dani! I’m so sorry about what the people say about you and fellow horse girls that are out there. You guys are trying your best to succeed. ❤️ They don’t know a thing about your personal life. Why do people hate on others bc of what they work for? Anyways, AWESOME AND SUCH AN INSPIRATIONAL VIDEO!!! Not just that, but this video has been posted on my birthday. 💖💖😊😊 #blessed. Also, don’t listen to the hate, and know that I and your true fans will be with you the whole way. Can’t wait to see what your future holds! 😃 #danithehorsegirl
Because vegans peta and animal rights activist are hypocrites and they don't do actual research so they go brainwashing people with their beliefs
I think there is a lot more to say here. Every journey is a different one and many animals give their lives to sustain ours and it's ok! I don't understand anything about 4h though and can't figure our what was upsetting about getting 2nd? Definitely an amazing idea to really open this up and explain a world that many of us don't understand! Lastly, dani clearly is so passionate about her animals... there could never be any doubt about where her heart is.
Thank you!! 💜
I'm a rodeo cowboy a calf roper and 4H is the best thingthese kids learn so much from it and these people that are so far against it what do they think their lamb chops come from or their pork loin or their pork chops or their ground beef or their steaks I mean it is absolutely crazy these people God bless these kids they're doing the right thing they're learning they're learning about feed consumption wait so I love to see this on RUclips way to go
Your videos are very helpful this is my first year starting 4h and I have learned a lot from you
I'm so happy that you guys are promoting 4H and explaining to people about market animals. I cannot even begin to tell you how being in 4H myself from ages 8 to 18 shaped me as a person. I showed horses but my sister showed dairy and beef cows, also did sewing cooking and even one year a pair of champion chickens..Lol. the work that is put into these projects is incredible. It was our whole world. It taught us responsibility social skills animal husbandry and how so many life long friends and connections that even at age 49 I still maintain. I grew up on a family farm over 200 acres with horses and cattle mainly. We grew our vegetables had our own chickens and butchered our own animals for meat. I learned where my food came from and the sacrifice that animal made for us to be able to eat. I was humbled and respectful and greatly appreciative of that sacrifice. Whether you choose to eat meat or not in my opinion there is a humane respectful way to do so. Dani was very emotional and rightfully so. She put her heart and soul into her projects. But I can tell she also understands a way of life some aren't so lucky to experience. Good job parents and Dani.
Thank you so much!!!!
I raise animals for fun and food. I treat them super well the whole time.
I do 4-h and I understand how hard it is! I love your videos and wish to see more!
A very worthwhile organization!
Thank you for making this video. My daughter just joined 4H and we haven’t been able to fully experience any of this. Cant wait to know as much about animals as you ladies do.
Congrats! Keep up the good work! It is important to spread the 4-H word and the benefits for our youth. I found your video looking for 4-H hashtags for my own volunteerism!
I do 4h show and market too! I love it and would definitely recommend doing g it for others! I love you!
HOW DO YOU FIND TIME TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS?!?!?!? I barely have enough time for horses let alone all of these other animals. You guys are so amazing.
Abby’s Adventures It’s a lot of hard work, but it’s slot of fun! All of my family helps me out! Thanks
@@DaniTheHorseGirl I thought Diego belonged to a friend of your that was in college but there's a video on the channel that has manzor I forget the name but there a video that says chocking horses and it looks just like Diego?
Emily Lipsitz that is a mare named Miss Kitty 😊 that belongs to Brandi.
I love ur channel and how you look after all those foals i dream about owning my own horse and seeing how well you look after yours is inspiring
Thank you!!
when i showed my pig me, my sister, my step brother, and my other step brother all cried when our pigs got loaded into the van. 4-h is still really fun and I love it!
I am in 4h I love it.
I do 4-h and getting rid of an animal is really hard
Very
My sister keeps her goat but she has to breed it
@_eliahblossom_ You don't have to but sometimes it's nice to own some money.
@_eliahblossom_ no not all the time, but they cost a lot of money so you do stuff with them to earn money. :)
Nice job!!!
Dani is such a good young handler!!
Thank you so much!!!!!
I hate selling my cows and sheep it is a bittersweet moment. Im in 4-H too in Iowa
I live in Iowa and that is where I do 4-h
@Oenomel you can keep or sell it if you chose
@@Klhoe64 market cows you cannot keep
@@Klhoe64 but some are given back but it rarely happens
Alabama 4-Her right here!! I do livestock education contests (Quizbowl and Skillathon) and am currently reigning state champion 2 years in a row in both contests! I have personally never been in the position to own livestock or I would have loved to show! But I am always happy to see videos of other 4-Her's! :)
I am showing my chicken but not for market, and then my pig who I will be showing for market in april. It was really hard to try and find people who would help me pay for my pig (I have to buy my own) because everyone thought it was crul to do it because you are I giess just raising them to soon get killed. I have never had my sister come to any of the shows even like the small animal show because she thinks it is messed up. It really annoys me because people are saying this but we have a huge bond with our anumals, and like you have said, we put so much time and love into these animals that it is very hard to let them go, there has been not 1 year that I have not cried after my pig got picked up to go to slaughter. People think we do it for the money, some of us do but I sure do it for the experiece, it makes me soooo happy to be out with my animals everyday and bonding with them. Good luck on your future projects, and very good job at the show, that cow was looking great, and the way you set up the goats were amazing!
correction i loooooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve it
4-H state model horse show is coming up and im going! Anyone else!?
After seeing the video, I googled "4H crying" and there are surprisingly many parents who have taken photos of their childrens' heartbreak. For obvious reasons, most parents would refrain from that. Either how, whether there are photos or not, these parents are knowingly encouraging and approving of their own childrens' potential heartbreak. No matter whether anger or frustration comes in from reading this, isn't it the case that this heartbreak is likely to be part of the process? And so, they then necessarily must be consenting to it? How can it be any other way if the animals are in the care of the children from an early age? Trust is built and a relationship is unavoidable; isn't that friendship between species alike to the relationships children form to dogs? Isn't it the case that children come to love dogs, just as any animal in their care? Why would a parent consent to destroy such a bond? I write it as "destroy" because this is an intentional act - the heartbreak is intentional. How could it be any other way if it is part of the "learning process"? Additionally, the children must have had a "good heart" as its close to impossible to break a person who is already heartbroken - there is just no way the parents don't know what awaits a perfectly innocent animal who often is loving and trusting to their caretaker, and in this case, their child(ren).
Now then, I realize there are plenty of ways to rationalize this. I didn't just google "4H crying", I also clicked links and read various comment sections. Surprisingly, or perhaps not, there were plenty of people who had partaken in 4H who had, as adults or adolescents, come to realize that what they had suspected as children which is that they had not been aware of what they consented to with this "life lesson". I think this aspect is incredibly important and completely overlooked. A child or teenager, legally, but also in terms of their personal development, can't consent, which is why many countries draw the line at 16-18 years of age for different types of endevours. So whenever it is a big deal, people are required to be of a certain age. Obviously, children can seemingly consent to adult choices: Parents who bring up children into sects also have noble intentions with their own justifications, and this works because the children don't know any better, and moreso, children are willing to do a lot for both the approval of their parents and their community, even things that are immoral. Don't blindly stop or get stuck at me comparing it to sects, it's not about how alike it is to sects, rather, the point is that children are willing to follow along the path of the family tradition of which they are born into - without being able to consent. There are child soldiers, right? There are children of dictators who follow in their parents' path, and so on. It is the same "growing up" but different societal or family traditions that they end up following, and so no matter what cruelty they partake of, they are mostly doing so because of adults who have justified the path before them.
And yes, I'm aware that there are multiple justifications that are suggested to these children so that they can cope with it: "money", "affording an education", "to feed the population", "they had a good (extremely short) life", "it has always been done", "it must be done", "we are so proud", "my child learned a lot", etc. Humans can cope with just about any atrocities with the right justifications: slavery, abuse, mass killings, sexual exploitation. All four must be part of the necessary "good" of animal agriculture. The mass killings are also mostly infants of other species - of the species which tradition decided. Isn't it the case that these animals often don't live to be much older than 1 years with some exceptions? More often, significantly less, despite of their good health and vigor, and perhaps especially because of that; When they are young, they are tasty, and when old, much less so - profit and/or loss dictates.
But let's go back and ask "why must it be justified"? Shouldn't what is good be inherently good? Isn't that how we know that love is good? Love is good simply for being love: it is inherent. Isn't the heartbreak of the child a breaking away from the inherent good of the children? One step away from this inherent good and one step into a justified societal or traditional "good"? So in the presence of an inherent good, the children go ahead with its exact opposite, even if it must break their hearts. All for the approval of their parents and society, or perhaps for money - often, all of these - the children are after all dealing with a significant loss that needs to be justified. Who knows? Perhaps in extreme cases children are told these animals go to a "better place" as if they were done a favor? I don't know, but surely it does occur.
Now I'm not stating that anyone is "evil", I don't believe in such nonsense. There are no evil people, only blind or unhappy people, who believe that whatever they are doing is "good" - and I am not unlike to that. I understand that there are societal and traditional "good:s" that justify whatever cruelty that exist in the world, whether these are selfish or for a larger community: for some good measure both are justified.
Still though, I just find this incredible saddening. That at the face of an inherent good, that these children are taught to find other "profitable good:s" that are not inherently good, but require strong justifications. Well-being exists in that which needs no justification or defending, and it is that which is at risk of being jeopardized whenever adults make children follow the same pattern of tradition.
Hopefully this made someone reflect on their life. Doesn't need to be about this particular topic, but any sort of blind betrayal of "inherent good" at any point in life. If you can identify that within you, then I'll be happy to know that I took the time to write this. I'm sure everyone has been in this position at some point in their life, but I also know that many people won't recognize it until they have distanced themselves from whatever they are fully invested in: why people for example stay in abusive relationships and how the abusive part only becomes evident once they have distanced themselves. Anyhow, investigate whether what I have written is warranted or not. There is well-being to be had by aligning with this "inherent good" ❤🩹take care of yourselves.
There's a difference between actually dealing with 4-H and listening to someone who has no experience with 4-H
Hello @@boogiekang619! :)
Undoubtedly, that is always the case. But whenever there is abuse or risk of abuse, even if there is none, an outsider with an outside perspective may help. That is pretty much what the following people do: therapists, business advicers, relationship counselors, cult deprogrammer, parents, friends, siblings etc. The outside view can be equally valid as the inside view, yet they differ. Obviously a football spectator can not advice a professional football player on how to play football because it is a practiced art, but they may have valid input for psychological, financial, relationships, etc. People even pay for an outside perspective, that's how valueable it can be for some people. My intention is good and I wish well-being upon all, and I would perhaps agree with you more if I had written a mindless or half-hearted comment; but it is obviously not the case. My message is a reaction to both the stories of children who grew up to regret parts of the experience as well as a reaction to the photos of crying children. I believe it is much worse to ignore that, then pretend it is problem-free practice without any psychological implications.
Maybe I missunderstood you, but it should be fairly easy to invalidate what I have written if the difference you highlighted is significant to what I have written. What you have replied is vague. If you don't mind, please explain this significance of stated difference and I will address it properly.
@@CreamColoredFlower you obviously have never been in 4-H have you instead of judging us or jumping to conclusions how about you start asking us what it's like to be in 4-H
@@CreamColoredFlower because vegans have no knowledge of 4-H whatsoever
@@CreamColoredFlower and for your information there's no abuse so get off of it
I sighed up for 4h last year but then Covid came along so so far i have not been able to comete in any 4h compositions but when
all this is over I plan to show my cows and My horses
wow this is so cool! i'm in 4-H in Alaska!
This is so cute!
Thanks!!
This is soo cool I I’m in middle school and we have 4-H and we have a livestock judging team!! And I’m on the team soo I was soo entertained watching this!! Loved the vid!
Awesome!!
Dani The Horse Girl thx
I know it’s not easy to put your animal that you raised for market and having to show them and have to let them go , it’s hard to to know that when I’m judging! So I feel you Dani
I am almost done with my first year of 4-H and I am doing swine. All I can say is that even thinking about the day that I have to let my pig go, already brings emotions. Beautiful sheep and steer ❤
Lil Lishious Thanks! It’s definitely hard letting them go!
See if you can keep it as a pet
@@princessviolet4522 I don't think you can do that when you're doing market pigs for 4-H but if they are given back you could but it's rare if it happens but it's possible who knows but some market projects are given back but pigs and cows it rarely happens
@@princessviolet4522 but seeing if you can keep it as a pet isn't always easy
@@boogiekang619 ok
I usually don't comment but I just like to say I show market lamb and this was my first time showing I loved it will always do it but in definitely not easy to sell . We 4hers put a lot of time in to are animals. Time ,sweat and tears but I would never change it for the world.
Same! This year was my first year showing lambs too! I love them!!
I raise animals from new borns to full grown animals and I train them for 4h to sell.It is always so hard to sell my babies.💕🐴
I love 4-H because I show pigs and it’s hard get rid it but you get chance of learning how show a animal.
I love ur vids you inspire me
I’ve been in sagebrush 4-H since I was 5 but I’ve been to all the meetings and every thing since I was born
when your pulling a steer or any animals push away from you and then go into a circle so then you dont get stepped on or tripped
I hate it how people are so dramatic over fair and 4-H they don't understand how hard us people work to get these animals to win.
What state this is awesome
I am showing cattle a horses this year
I never cried but I did get atached
I'm in 4-h and I do dog club, horse, and I show pigs and cows in livestock club
I am going to post mine
Can you do a farm tour?
I am doing 4h goats in the summer, but do you mind if I ask where Dani’s jeans are from? I need some good jeans for 4h
Like if you show cows
People hate what they dont understand or dont have knowledge on so.... I usually keep my thoughts to myself but people need to learn its been a way of life for soooooo long and hating on people who are trying to make a living or hating a channel for doing it isnt right and people need to understand that in order for you to have meat an animal needs to die... Sorry if i offended anyone but its true
This year is my second year in showing lambs
I agree with you for sure I sold my heifer for meat and I had had her for so long so I know it’s hard
I show rabbits and sheep for seven years my grandma is a 4-h leader
This was really helpful and informative. Does anyone know of any video's or source material for someone new to 4-H, Shows, Livestock and Stationary ect? I mean beginner level 101?
khauser 30215 My other channel specifically for livestock will be having lots of informational videos coming out! It is Select Livestock
i am in 4-H and i show steer it was super hard to let my steer go
I have a question I am a 4H member and I have only been doing one meat action a year but could I sell a bird or something at any other fair I go to that year or is it just one auction a year
i show lambs and i loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooovvvvvvvvvveeeeee
I used to show sheep years ago
Do you sell the steers u show for meat im so confused
Yes! I raise steers and lambs for market. I purchase the animals, train them myself, pay for all of the feed myself, then sell them at a 4H auction at the end of summer. We have to keep market books, which we use to track our expenses such as feed and vet bills, and log the growth of the animals. This all teaches kids like myself how to raise animals for market. It is a lot of hard work but very rewarding.
I’m thinking about joining 4H does anyone have any tips?
I love my sheep. i am in 4-H too. Just find a club that suits you and your animal. Hope that helps
What tips do you need for which project
How can you love an animal and send them to have their throat slit? Wish you guys would see the difference between a "hater" and someone who wants to protect animals from unnecessary harm. So sad that y'all are aware of veganism and still choose to slit animals throats. It's one thing to be unaware and a whole other thing to be aware and still choose to harm.
That's enough of that leave the kid alone
Alisia quit harassing these 4-H kids look at you you're like in 30s get in the real world instead of harassing these kids
Alisia maybe you should go relearn your facts instead of spreading false information ththese kids worked so hard for their projects why don't you leave those kids alone I'm not gonna let you or anyone else harass those kids I'm not gonna let you or anyone else run them to the ground I'm not gonna let you or anyone else take their hard work from them these kids worked so hard and I'm not gonna let yall mess that up for them
@@boogiekang619 telling a kid they have the choice to not be violent towards animals is not harassing them or running them into the ground. But I would definitely say that telling kids to toughen up and send their animal to slaughter when they don't want to and don't have to is child abuse. I grew up riding horses so I am very aware of the mindsets and arguments used in favor of animal abuse. It is so sad that when children love animals we teach them to breed and kill them and see them as inanimate objects, when we can instead teach them to care for animals with the animals best interest in mind rather than our own ego, profit, trophy/ribbon winning, ect. We could have kids work just as hard if not harder on Vegan sanctuaries. And that would look just as good on a résumé or college application. There's truly no need for this unnecessary violence.
@@boogiekang619 feel free to tell me what false information I am spreading. Also I never denied that they work hard but they can work hard on a vegan sanctuary where they care for animals without unnecessary violence.
I started 4-H about 3-4 years ago. I learned that sheep are not always angels most of the time they’re evil
But I’m 2022 I wanna do sheep, hogs, and meat pen. Which would be my first year doing meat rabbits and hogs
@@CageLamborn good luck with your projects
@@CageLamborn sheep rabbits and pigs are very fun projects
So ive got a question, does 4-h give you the animal or do you use your own animal?
We use our own animals 😊 We have to pick out and buy them 😊
@@DaniTheHorseGirl ohh ok yeah so that makes more sense
@@DaniTheHorseGirl i dont live somewhere where there is show but i love my livestock and wish that i could show them
People don't have any idea how hard we work train or even taken care of our animals 4-H FFA OPENSHOW or any farm animal exhibitor job is not easy or abuse like many people think
I show sheep goats pigs and cows
IF you LOVE ANIMALS DON"T EAT THEM !
People need protein
I really wanna join 4h! :
4-H is a great experience but don't listen to the haters like vegans peta or animal rights activist they don't know anything about 4-H
I'm in 4h
That looks like Logan Ohio fair? Just wondering
Nope! :)
@@DaniTheHorseGirl aww ok lol ❤
Do you have to pay for your animals
Of course you do to pay feed bedding and everything your animal will need
Plus you also have to pay for vet bill
I almost lost half my leg by a cow
Oh no!
I'm in 4-H I do darey and wither
Hi
I only do cow I'm 4h
I get hungry so I'm glad there are animals that are raised for meat... Thank you. I think your doing a great job... I also like lamb chops. I would have bought that lamb however your very far from me. ;-)
Haha! Thank you!!!
I feel so bad for the kids who raise the cow and such then they have to sell them for meat. I don’t really like 4-H because I don’t like that kids have to get an animal from they where baby’s then sell them for meat I don’t want to hate or anything I’m jus5 saying what I think of 4-H
I can understand that perspective! But as a 4H kid, I can say that I love learning and what I learn from each animal. It isn't easy, but important to learn as I plan to be a farmer/rancher when I grow up
Dani The Horse Girl I know you love what you do and that you care about your animals I can tell your a good person
Love it
I show a dairy cow and Two show Goats
I do 4-H and rodeo in Hawaii.
I love my chickens, but I get them knowing that at the end of the fair, I’m going to miss them in my yard, and I know they are for meat
Random Stuff yup!
It’s tough, but I do it for the funds, so I can do it again next year
I love showing my animals but there not pets!
I didn’t catch how much you made from auctioning off your animals 😅
I was called an animal killer by meat eaters. They thought I loved killing animals because I would participate in FFA. I loved my steer named Williams. I cried when I got in the car after loading him on the trailer at county. City slickers don’t know where their food comes from. Either that be meat or produce. I since graduated but I still remember what it takes to raise animals knowing they’d be sold. It’s a great feeling both ways. We’re feeding hundreds of people while also getting college money.
Vegans don't know anything about 4-H FFA or OPENSHOW
I don't think it was meat eaters calling you that I think it was vegans because they're against agriculture but they don't know how much we care about our animals
@@boogiekang619 I think they were switching over because they said they loved meat. But like you said their words don’t say it. I loved my steer. I hate getting emotional in public when it came to losing someone or something. So when I was alone. I bawled for hours for weeks after my auction.
@@boogiekang619 true that! They don’t know what it’s like to get attached to an animal for a year and then sell for college funds and for food to feed the world.
@@sd.lulu.multipurpose5306 exactly but it really pisses me off that these vegans run their mouth like zoe Rosenberg alisia demi keegan it Real jonathon roehm Jennifer babygirl andrew infernaldragon jeffery ali tracy from asha eric roi earthling ed tash Peterson joey carbstrong Brian kirkwood alsondra roi peta or their idiot vegan followers they know nothing about 4-H FFA or OPENSHOW they have no idea how hard we work train or even taken care of our animals they have no clue how much time and money we put into our animals you know
I miss all my years in 4-H
Ok i am sorta in 4-H but I do AGG and FFA so I still show but I just show in FFA and AGG but I show one goat right now if you want to follow him on Instagram at brooklyn_przybylski_goats
I personally dont agree with this kind of thing..i believe that all animals should live the life that they deserve..not the way humans think they should.....but there is no hate from me...i just dont believe in this kind of stuff and i would lobe u guys to stop giving your animals (the ones that u raised and loved) to sluaghter....i know it is really really hard to lose animals so please...is this actually what the animals want in their life...think about the animals...not just about the money and food
But there is no hate
@@d.t5314 you should think why it's important for us to eat meat and being a farm animal exhibitor is not simple as you think
Meow
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I do 4H lol
Hey me too
Qi do 4h
Please 4-H, stop the animal cruelty, it is also bad for your organization to be associated with such cruelty in terms of your public image, so please, have compassion on animals.
Leave her alone there is no cruelty in 4-H go relearn your facts
Are u actually gunna slaughter them
They will get killed eventually :(
poor girl knows she is doing something horrible and wrong, but she fakes a smile for her mom becuase thats how she gets praise in her family, by abusing animals and sending them to sluaghter. Ever heard of a sanctuary?? Why not send the animals to a sanctuary where you can visit them for the rest of their life.
Why don't you leave the kid alone
Not everyone sells their animals at the fair just so you know
You don't know how this girl is raised don't criticize her because she does 4-H it's her happiness and joy it's what she loves yes it's sad to sell yes but not everyone sells their projects and sometimes they are given back but that doesn't mean it's abuse it's about learning how to farm and learn the experience of agriculture
Keegan it fake
You pissed me off so bad with this!! RESEARCH
I don’t like that you spent the early part of the video trying to play victim about pitching animals for sale, you’re gonna get hate for it that’s the internet and now you’ve opened yourself to more hate by trying to rationalize why you shouldn’t get hate. You’re not special sorry I could post a video of a flower in the breeze and someone would find a reason to flame it
You don’t have to like it. I’m not playing the victim, we are telling our experience and I don’t think that I’m special. I’ve gotten hate on my videos since I started making them, it’s not new to me. Hate also isn’t something that I need rationalized to me by a stranger. By sharing our experiences on the internet, we expect it, as human nature can’t help but spread hate. However that won’t keep me from being positive. ✌🏻
@@DaniTheHorseGirl I think I came off more hostile than I intended, I stand by what I said minus calling you a victim and implying you thought you were special, but to give some context I think there’s nothing wrong with anything y’all are doing and 4H is great and you and your daughter seem to be doing a great job as well.
I personally think this is cruel
I'm sorry you feel that way. Are you vegan also? Not being rude, actually curious. :)
Same. I love cattle way too much. We condemn horse meat, so why do we eat other animals like cows? I love this channel but I will never ever do 4h because of what happens to these innocent animals.
Morgan Steele You can do breeding animals and keep them
It is not cruel these animals get way better taken care of than the dogs and cats that are owned by vegans Making them vegan is abuse because vegan diet is not good for them
@@DaniTheHorseGirl don't listen to those haters they have no idea what they are talking about