This panel can put out close to 100 watts ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.
Unfortunately, such a solution is short-lived. The heat of the sun and rain destroy the protective plastic quickly. And currently, for example, you can get new and much more efficient intact panels from Finland for the same price. For example, 350Wp = 49.00€ and 410Wp = 69.00€ So buying a new one is much cheaper.
You should do a follow-up in 6-12 months to see how it ages when exposed to elements. I'd expect edges to peel-off and allow water to enter but who knows... :)
The voids behind the film can also act as pumps for moisture. When the gas heats up, the overpressure escapes through any gaps. Then when it cools off, any condensation or moist air gets pulled in by the partial vacuum.
I just got 2 free solarpanels 450wp with broken glass. This video is exactly what i needed to see how to fix it the cheapest way. Its for a small testing project so if i can get 200wp in total out of the 2 panels i am already very happy. Thanks for the video :)
My solar panal has small cracks n it is very difficult to arrange laminating film as I live in rural area,i just wan to know that will mobile phone's tempered glass work on cracks and will it generate electricity as before (when no cracks)?
Great idea ,i fix my broken Solar panel glass with the plastic sheet today hopefully its gona work fine. Thank you for sharing this video. Fareed Khan From Pakistan
Hi. How is the electric performance affected by the broken glass distractions? Will it work also to protect with Acrylic transparent gloss paint spray? Thank you! Cheers, Horia.
I had a few cracks in a small solar panel I use while camping after it got bumped into. I took some 3M clear 3” tape and covered the cracks and the panel still produces 2 years later and no problems yet. The tape is starting to yellow and peel but it lasted this long so I’m a Happy Camper !!,
This won't last very long. Laminating film won't like the 50°C temperatures. And while rain will flow over it, moisture is still going to creep deeper and deeper at all the edges. I would remove the glass and use clear casting resin to make a new layer. Weatherproof, heat resistant, light and only a little bit more cost.
@@darrisx8146 Depends on the resin. You want one that yellows very quick because that means it's a resin without added UV stabilizers/inhibitors. Otherwise UV light will be blocked by the resin and you lose a considerable amount of light on the PV cell. On cloudy days where UV is almost the only spectrum that gets through the clouds, you'd relatively lose a lot of production.
@@Rizon1985 but surely the resin that isn't uv resistant will cloud up and then block the sunlight hitting the panels even more. Either you use uv resistant resin that blocks out uv and you lose power, or you use non uv stable resin, that goes yellow and cloudy after a few months and you lose power. Its a lose lose situation
@@Nobody_Famous oh I ended up buying a pallet of 10 of them for $200 after a bit of bargaining. He gets them as a write off, I get panels that ranged from 80-95% output for less than a single new one
Resin is more expensive and it yellows in sunlight very quickly. The kind of resin which doesn't yellow has UV blockers, meaning your solar panel won't get as much power!
I tried resin and it was impossible to fill thousands of cracks, and it didn’t seem to penetrate far despite being advertised as making the cracks disappear. It didn’t. I don’t see any such film 48” wide.
I wonder what make and model it is. Clear bra material that is used in cars lasts a while in the southwest. Maybe that material would do better vs wrap material. Interesting thought though.
I am testing a ton of solar panels at work and we damage until the glass breaks, and they really don't drop much output. If it's a localized break, it only damages a few cells, and not completely is common. Output would drop only 30-50 watts on 500w+ panels
I wanted to do the same thing, four broken panels i want to buy. Only problem is they don't have frame, like yours but they are producing electricity. Did you test yours, how they work?
I get given broken new panels free from a local installer. Many tiny pieces of glass stick out, piercing the plastic film. Not weatherproof, not strong and not going to last. Best try a solvent to remove the glass from the panel if possible.
Hi Everyone, we did the same technique and covered the broken pv panel with a transparent auto glass folio, and the result is not satisfying. We connected 2 series and 2 parallel of 265W poly panels. The inverter gets 200w totally. You need too much area to compansate the same power and its not effective.
Delimiter film will not affect production. I believe your panels are entering diminishing returns with the broken glass prior to the film being applied?
JUST SO TO A PLACE THAT DOES SIGN WRITING. THEY USE THE CLEAR FILM YOU PUT OVER THEIR SIGNS TO STOP THE LETTERS FROM PEELING OFF. ONCE YOU STICK IT ON THE PANEL RUN SILICONE AROUND THE EDGE OF THE SOLAR PANEL FRAME WHERE THE GLASS MEETS TO STOP WATER GETTING IN FROM AROUND THE EDGES OF THE PANEL.
Really nice. :) I'm thinking in a project using a small solar panel. It would be like that... Connecting it to a step down (using a diode, of course) to get 5v, then connect it to a TP4056, that would be connected to 6 lithium cells from a notebook battery. From that the energy goes to a step up and to a 10w LED reflector (using a 12v dc driver). And I would make a darkness sensor to power it up or down. :) Don't know how much time the batteries would last without sunlight or if one day would be enough to charge them... But I'm going to try. :D
Me had a broken solar panels last week...typhon wind..tore the metal wires from the boards :(:( 150mph i think or more.....and i work in solar systems ....so did you people think about effect of hail rain on your mega solar project ?? But as repair im thinking about the technic used to repair auto windshields....thats it to vacuum press raisin into the broken board.....just like cellphone broken screen technic....then wax it crystal clear ...with ceramic wax...if lower efficiency 5% i think its success...
@@Nobody_Famous True, but for original question, just got 290w panel and electrician neighbor tested it that efficiency drop to 250w after glass shattered, so it does have rather big effect but per say but compared to price its not that much, still it does effect panels utility life greatly so replacing the glass should be done if all possible. Hot and needing it to be optically clear does create issues, specially since i presume glass has plastic film between, so you cant really fill the gap form outside with resin or anything.
not the glass being broken, only the amount of damage on the actual cells. I do EL and IV testing for hail damage at work and I've had 545w bifacial panels still output their rated amount of 545w after a few rounds of hail testing and the glass breaking. Most other panels follow suit, but the more damage they take BEFORE breaking the glass, the worse the output is.
@@JDhvactech, I'm late for this reply but, the glass is just to protect the cell underneath from rain and debris. The light passes through and each square cell captures the energy.
The conductive glass is а solar cell main component. The thickness of TiO2 acting as а semiconductor plays a primary role in the transmission, photoconductive properties, and the efficiency of solar cells. ...
any one using broken glass panels? I can get 380w panels for usd$25 each... any dangers if a cell is damaged? I'll be installing those on my roof, so i dont want to burn my house down..
I wouldn't install them on your roof. There is risk of arcing if the cells get wet or are too damaged. The only way to know for sure is to check with Electro-luminescence test. Reverse current at Isc spec and look at the microcracks, with a special lens on the camera of course lol. But if they don't look like they are damaged badly on the busbars you're probably okay. Just make sure you seal it somehow. Good for projects on the ground, not your house, because there is always a risk. Insurance probably wouldn't cover it since they were already damaged before you put them up on the roof. Not worth the risk to me. But for something like a solar shed etc. I wouldn't worry too much.
I think removing the glass and putting it out to work might be the worst way to repair it. You'll know as soon as it rains this is highly accurate. :-)
I see many problems with this, not worth it one; the way solar module generates electricity this module is likely to not generate electricity at all to find out why to check out videos of why a solar module may not generate electricity. second; the way the surface of a module is designed is to absorb most of the radiation that comes from the sun even if your solar module works it will generate less electricity third a solar module is designed to last at least 30 years will this last 30 days under harsh weather?. it doesn't worth nothing. also if you decide to get rid of it what are you going to do with it?.
there is no way in hell that panel is working properly with broken glass, the glass being broken creates a massive loss because it causes shading and inability to properly absorb sunlight. that panel was worth less than $0 it is garbage.
you lose 5-10% of power with that many cracks i just got a panel which looks way worse, it has cracks all over it but of the 220w that it was rated for, it still produces 190w
@@benjaminbuljevic7977, agreed. One of 2 panels that make up our 200 Watt portable kit shattered but it still works and generates about 1.6 amps less than our other (unharmed) kit.
This panel can put out close to 100 watts ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.
Very helpful video. Great to see people fixing broken things rather than throwing them out
I tried that with my x wife didn’t work !!!
Unfortunately, such a solution is short-lived. The heat of the sun and rain destroy the protective plastic quickly. And currently, for example, you can get new and much more efficient intact panels from Finland for the same price. For example, 350Wp = 49.00€ and 410Wp = 69.00€ So buying a new one is much cheaper.
You should do a follow-up in 6-12 months to see how it ages when exposed to elements. I'd expect edges to peel-off and allow water to enter but who knows... :)
The voids behind the film can also act as pumps for moisture. When the gas heats up, the overpressure escapes through any gaps. Then when it cools off, any condensation or moist air gets pulled in by the partial vacuum.
Right
I thought that painting on acrylic clear paint because it is so durable...
@@jacquelineMeyers-is1zz so did you do it?
I sealed them 6 months ago., people are too high around her to actually do any work, Gawd ! I nay have to load them and get it done on the road.
I just got 2 free solarpanels 450wp with broken glass.
This video is exactly what i needed to see how to fix it the cheapest way.
Its for a small testing project so if i can get 200wp in total out of the 2 panels i am already very happy.
Thanks for the video :)
My solar panal has small cracks n it is very difficult to arrange laminating film as I live in rural area,i just wan to know that will mobile phone's tempered glass work on cracks and will it generate electricity as before (when no cracks)?
Great idea ,i fix my broken Solar panel glass with the plastic sheet today hopefully its gona work fine.
Thank you for sharing this video.
Fareed Khan
From Pakistan
Aoa Bhai if possible btayega broken glass se kia solar panel ki efficiency pr b farq para tha ap k?
Hi.
How is the electric performance affected by the broken glass distractions?
Will it work also to protect with Acrylic transparent gloss paint spray?
Thank you!
Cheers, Horia.
Where did you got the foile from? do you have any link?
did it last? Also, can you post a link to what you used?
I had a few cracks in a small solar panel I use while camping after it got bumped into. I took some 3M clear 3” tape and covered the cracks and the panel still produces 2 years later and no problems yet. The tape is starting to yellow and peel but it lasted this long so I’m a Happy Camper !!,
This won't last very long. Laminating film won't like the 50°C temperatures. And while rain will flow over it, moisture is still going to creep deeper and deeper at all the edges.
I would remove the glass and use clear casting resin to make a new layer. Weatherproof, heat resistant, light and only a little bit more cost.
How long does it take clear casting resin to yellow in the sunlight?
@@darrisx8146 Depends on the resin. You want one that yellows very quick because that means it's a resin without added UV stabilizers/inhibitors. Otherwise UV light will be blocked by the resin and you lose a considerable amount of light on the PV cell. On cloudy days where UV is almost the only spectrum that gets through the clouds, you'd relatively lose a lot of production.
Do you have any details of the type of resin you're talking about?
@@Rizon1985 but surely the resin that isn't uv resistant will cloud up and then block the sunlight hitting the panels even more. Either you use uv resistant resin that blocks out uv and you lose power, or you use non uv stable resin, that goes yellow and cloudy after a few months and you lose power. Its a lose lose situation
On which site I will purchase it
Where did you get the laminate? I find it very expensive and way to much of it in a roll.
Businesses that make signs with sticky plastic for other businesses..
there's a local solar farm installer that is selling cracked 340w industrial panels for $60. is it worth it to buy and repair them?
Ask how much they cost to dispose of, then you will be in a position to bargain 👀
@@Nobody_Famous oh I ended up buying a pallet of 10 of them for $200 after a bit of bargaining. He gets them as a write off, I get panels that ranged from 80-95% output for less than a single new one
I guess not enough for THEM to repair and resell.....
Resin is very good/best. It fills the cracks, it is cear, very hard, and durable.! ☺
What type of resin is best for this problem?
Resin is more expensive and it yellows in sunlight very quickly. The kind of resin which doesn't yellow has UV blockers, meaning your solar panel won't get as much power!
I tried resin and it was impossible to fill thousands of cracks, and it didn’t seem to penetrate far despite being advertised as making the cracks disappear. It didn’t. I don’t see any such film 48” wide.
What is the brand and supplier? I can’t find any laminating film wider than 25 inches
Has anyone tried plexiglass? If so did it cut the power in watts?
great! I understand that this module is 200 watts. how things have changed production unit after pasting?
Great work but where do get the material you use to cover it.what is the name?i know of stretch roller for wrapping things
Businesses that make signs with sticky plastic for other businesses..
How does it go after years of UV exposure
It'd be great to see a follow up 4 years on.
How efficient will the panel be with all the shadowing from the cracks?
May be you can research for a poor on liquid product thar fill in the cracks?
exactly. I tried a film cover. 455w panel. broken glass no film: 315w. broken glass with film: 315w. $30 of window glass from hardware store: 441w.
@@Paul_______ so how did you put the glass on?
is it goes yellow color on sun and fade ? any possibility to rain water enter
I wonder what make and model it is. Clear bra material that is used in cars lasts a while in the southwest. Maybe that material would do better vs wrap material. Interesting thought though.
Any update on how this worked out for you?
I am testing a ton of solar panels at work and we damage until the glass breaks, and they really don't drop much output. If it's a localized break, it only damages a few cells, and not completely is common. Output would drop only 30-50 watts on 500w+ panels
I wanted to do the same thing, four broken panels i want to buy. Only problem is they don't have frame, like yours but they are producing electricity. Did you test yours, how they work?
Just make an aluminium frame
Ask glass company if they have suitable aluminum extrusion on they will happily build you a frame or sell the material.
Any updates? how do they perform now?
After 7 years since this was made, how has the panel held up over time?? Has the film needed to be replaced?
But what’s the name of that thing u used please
Nice and helpful video
Broken glass panel still works?
Thanks I’m going to share
Why not install in suitable weather proof enclosure with glass top
Gal tave domintų dar viena dužusi panelė ? Ji baisesnė nei šita - įlenkta apačia.. Suntech 250W. Atiduočiau, bo išmesti jau norisi..
I get given broken new panels free from a local installer. Many tiny pieces of glass stick out, piercing the plastic film. Not weatherproof, not strong and not going to last. Best try a solvent to remove the glass from the panel if possible.
But what’s the name of that thing u used please 😮
Hi Everyone, we did the same technique and covered the broken pv panel with a transparent auto glass folio, and the result is not satisfying. We connected 2 series and 2 parallel of 265W poly panels. The inverter gets 200w totally. You need too much area to compansate the same power and its not effective.
Delimiter film will not affect production. I believe your panels are entering diminishing returns with the broken glass prior to the film being applied?
Where from did you get the sheet send me link
JUST SO TO A PLACE THAT DOES SIGN WRITING. THEY USE THE CLEAR FILM YOU PUT OVER THEIR SIGNS TO STOP THE LETTERS FROM PEELING OFF. ONCE YOU STICK IT ON THE PANEL RUN SILICONE AROUND THE EDGE OF THE SOLAR PANEL FRAME WHERE THE GLASS MEETS TO STOP WATER GETTING IN FROM AROUND THE EDGES OF THE PANEL.
Really nice. :) I'm thinking in a project using a small solar panel. It would be like that... Connecting it to a step down (using a diode, of course) to get 5v, then connect it to a TP4056, that would be connected to 6 lithium cells from a notebook battery. From that the energy goes to a step up and to a 10w LED reflector (using a 12v dc driver). And I would make a darkness sensor to power it up or down. :) Don't know how much time the batteries would last without sunlight or if one day would be enough to charge them... But I'm going to try. :D
MC's Creations be aware that batteries have to stay as cool as possible
Me had a broken solar panels last week...typhon wind..tore the metal wires from the boards :(:( 150mph i think or more.....and i work in solar systems ....so did you people think about effect of hail rain on your mega solar project ?? But as repair im thinking about the technic used to repair auto windshields....thats it to vacuum press raisin into the broken board.....just like cellphone broken screen technic....then wax it crystal clear ...with ceramic wax...if lower efficiency 5% i think its success...
Hehe i just put transparent tape 😅 is it ok?
Thank you... Really nice tips...
In Peace
man i need ur help please help me how i can charge laptop battery external ?? please its so matter for me
Thank you
Aren't the cracks going to lower the efficiency?
Not as much as they lower the price 😆
@@Nobody_Famous True, but for original question, just got 290w panel and electrician neighbor tested it that efficiency drop to 250w after glass shattered, so it does have rather big effect but per say but compared to price its not that much, still it does effect panels utility life greatly so replacing the glass should be done if all possible. Hot and needing it to be optically clear does create issues, specially since i presume glass has plastic film between, so you cant really fill the gap form outside with resin or anything.
not the glass being broken, only the amount of damage on the actual cells. I do EL and IV testing for hail damage at work and I've had 545w bifacial panels still output their rated amount of 545w after a few rounds of hail testing and the glass breaking. Most other panels follow suit, but the more damage they take BEFORE breaking the glass, the worse the output is.
Good job
why not epoxy on it?
I bet this doesnt resist UV radiación for a while
Yes, 9 euros, but what was the shipping cost? And it comes at minimum 50m roll MINIMUM. So I doubt it is 9 euros.
thank u man
Naturally in the UK there's no such thing as a roll of clear laminate for under £10. It's all over £100. This country is such a rip off.
Nice.
This plastic is badly needed to us plz kindly guide us ......
Its a temperary solution.. not long time..
What is reasons of Glass breaking
Handling damage, hail, kids etc.
Solar ka glass tot gia he kea karin
Thenx sir love u...
Not charger becuse broken...?
You Call that foil a "repair"? Haha nice joke
"Film" not "foil." Foil is metallic.
Lacquer it for longevity
Doesn't the glass have to be conductive
No.
That was interesting. How so? The semiconductive glass make the whole thing possible
@@JDhvactech, I'm late for this reply but, the glass is just to protect the cell underneath from rain and debris. The light passes through and each square cell captures the energy.
@@JDhvactech glass is an insulator, that's why they used it as insulators on powerlines as well as ceramics.
The conductive glass is а solar cell main component. The thickness of TiO2 acting as а semiconductor plays a primary role in the transmission, photoconductive properties, and the efficiency of solar cells. ...
any one using broken glass panels? I can get 380w panels for usd$25 each... any dangers if a cell is damaged? I'll be installing those on my roof, so i dont want to burn my house down..
I wouldn't install them on your roof. There is risk of arcing if the cells get wet or are too damaged. The only way to know for sure is to check with Electro-luminescence test. Reverse current at Isc spec and look at the microcracks, with a special lens on the camera of course lol. But if they don't look like they are damaged badly on the busbars you're probably okay. Just make sure you seal it somehow. Good for projects on the ground, not your house, because there is always a risk. Insurance probably wouldn't cover it since they were already damaged before you put them up on the roof. Not worth the risk to me. But for something like a solar shed etc. I wouldn't worry too much.
Sir isko hindi me explain kijiye
That is not a repair
Probably the worst way to repair a solar panel.
Nah, the worst way is to repair it with black tape. ;)
I think removing the glass and putting it out to work might be the worst way to repair it. You'll know as soon as it rains this is highly accurate. :-)
I see many problems with this, not worth it
one; the way solar module generates electricity this module is likely to not generate electricity at all to find out why to check out videos of why a solar module may not generate electricity.
second; the way the surface of a module is designed is to absorb most of the radiation that comes from the sun even if your solar module works it will generate less electricity third a solar module is designed to last at least 30 years will this last 30 days under harsh weather?. it doesn't worth nothing. also if you decide to get rid of it what are you going to do with it?.
koi fayeda nahi panal k Amp nahi bantay bilkul bhi volt sahi rehtay hain ek aur cheez panal kuch month k baad bilkul hi dead ho jata hy
there is no way in hell that panel is working properly with broken glass, the glass being broken creates a massive loss because it causes shading and inability to properly absorb sunlight. that panel was worth less than $0 it is garbage.
you lose 5-10% of power with that many cracks
i just got a panel which looks way worse, it has cracks all over it
but of the 220w that it was rated for, it still produces 190w
@@benjaminbuljevic7977, agreed. One of 2 panels that make up our 200 Watt portable kit shattered but it still works and generates about 1.6 amps less than our other (unharmed) kit.
But what’s the name of that thing u used please
But what’s the name of that thing u used please 😮
But what’s the name of that thing u used please 😮
But what’s the name of that thing u used please 😮
But what’s the name of that thing u used please 😮
But what’s the name of that thing u used please 😮
Its called " clear plastic laminate"
But what’s the name of that thing u used please 😮
Windshield anti reflection & uv sticker