You develop your main points very powerfully. I was delighted to see Ps. 2:7 and Acts 13:33 on the list of Scriptures you're familiar with and which you embrace, because they pinpoint the beginning of Jesus's second life, the commencement of his immortal/resurrected life, him being "firstborn from the dead", etc. So perhaps we can come to an agreement of sorts after all on the timing of the great restoration of the earth under Jesus' future direction, and which terms we should be applying to it. Take care.
"This phrase can be understood in several ways. The Greek word 'arche,' translated as 'beginning,' can also mean 'source' or 'first cause.' Thus, it can be interpreted that Jesus is not just the first among created beings, but the source of all creation, which aligns with the teaching that everything was created through Him (John 1:3, Colossians 1:16)."
Amen brother, Jesus is our brother according to His own words we are not God's brothers and sisters we are sons and daughters, He says the Father is greater than Him, He calls the Father the only "true" God, Jesus is called "theos" in the new testament and it has multiple meanings...it's used much like Elohiym in the Old Testament and Paul calls satan theos "the god of this age"...from a Hebrew (and Thomas was Hebrew) the word theos in relation to Jesus is definition b3 in the lexicon, leader of Israel in the Jewish theocracy...God bless you brother
@@bobbywolfe7191 almighty God is the divine conscienceness of the sacrifical lamb/body His own glorified body who sits on His glorious throne. And by His glorious NAME we are reconciled to His divine conscience. You are a body and spirit/soul in a body, and you in your conscience/mind is greater than your body, but it is your body that glorifies your as one person with a name. Almighty God is one in bodily form.
@@bobbywolfe7191 Jesus christ is the glorious NAME of almighty God who became flesh and dwelled with man as the sacrifical lamb/body of God and is not a separate God. There is but one almighty God, Everlasting father who is called Jesus the christ and as the glorified lamb is now sitting on His glorious throne and sent the seven holy spirits standing before the throne to the seven churches of the world to testify to the gospel of Jesus christ ❤
Qur'an For He knows whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And Allah is Most Capable of everything.” God doesn't need help Jesus mother was not yet born, therefore he can't exist until then the miracle birth.
@@ismaelmahmud6094 Zechariah 12-10 YHWH almighty God said, I will pour out a Spirit of grace and supplication on them Israel, and they will look on Me the one they have pierced and they will mourn. Almighty God tells us He is the one on the cross long before the crucifixion of Jesus christ, and that He has a body. And this is why we are created in God's image.
@@marcusvanrensberg6060 Zechariah prophesies that, in the End of Days, Not past events . Also the wrong translation checks the Hebrew Bible. It's him or me?
@@ismaelmahmud6094 Jesus christ is the power/eternal Spirit of life and the wisdom/divine conscienceness of God in bodily form. And the scriptures says that Jesus christ was before all things and created all things. And is the glorious NAME of almighty God, not a separate God or person.
@@marcusvanrensberg6060 do you know what eternal is ? Has no beginning or end. And no growing, on the 8 days jesus was circumcised, meaning jesus is growing. The miracle birth of Jesus, he has a beginning and according to the Bible resurrection of Jesus, therefore the word eternal does not apply to him. In order to be Eternal you have to be immortal . Hosea 11:9 God is not a man,the holy one Only God is eternal, immortal unchangeable etc.... 1
@@ismaelmahmud6094 Do you have the scriptures that says, Jesus Christ the sacrifical lamb/body of God was glorified after the crucifixion and is now sitting on His glorious throne and gives direction to all things. Do you have a old testament Bible?
The sacrifical lamb is not created, and is God the word who became flesh and dwelled with man to remove the sins of the world. And Jesus Christ is the glorious NAME of almighty God who became flesh. Jesus christ the NAME of God is not a separate God or person.
Proverbs 30:4 What is God's name, AND what is the name of the Son? 2John 1:3 Grace and mercy be to you from from God the Father, and from Jesus Christ, the Son of the father, in love and truth. New converts repackaged the Narrative, without Apostolic succession, OR "most importantly" biblical framework. Ex UPC
@@mstru79 The son of God is the sacrifical lamb/body of God, who is God the word who became flesh and dwelled with man as Emmanuel God with us, and He revealed His new testament NAME to Mary and the world by His angel Gabriel. And the glorious NAME of almighty God, as Jesus the christ is not a separate person or God it is the righteous flesh and blood of God that is the salvation of mankind. Therefore if you reject the son you reject the father, because they are one and the same almighty God. You have a body and spirit, as one person with a name.
@@mstru79 Jesus christ said to the Pharisees, you have never heard God's voice nor seen His form, nor does His word dwell in you, for you do not believe Me. You diligently study the scriptures because you think that by then you possess eternal life, these are the scriptures that testify about Me, yet you refuse to come to Me to have eternal life, Jesus Christ is the Everlasting father Mighty God, living water of life, bread of life, the eternal Spirit of life in all things and the one and only savior of the world.
You develop your main points very powerfully.
I was delighted to see Ps. 2:7 and Acts 13:33 on the list of Scriptures you're familiar with and which you embrace, because they pinpoint the beginning of Jesus's second life, the commencement of his immortal/resurrected life, him being "firstborn from the dead", etc.
So perhaps we can come to an agreement of sorts after all on the timing of the great restoration of the earth under Jesus' future direction, and which terms we should be applying to it. Take care.
Amen.
"This phrase can be understood in several ways. The Greek word 'arche,' translated as 'beginning,' can also mean 'source' or 'first cause.' Thus, it can be interpreted that Jesus is not just the first among created beings, but the source of all creation, which aligns with the teaching that everything was created through Him (John 1:3, Colossians 1:16)."
So you are wrong,God doesn't need an agent .
God is alone❤
Amen brother, Jesus is our brother according to His own words we are not God's brothers and sisters we are sons and daughters, He says the Father is greater than Him, He calls the Father the only "true" God, Jesus is called "theos" in the new testament and it has multiple meanings...it's used much like Elohiym in the Old Testament and Paul calls satan theos "the god of this age"...from a Hebrew (and Thomas was Hebrew) the word theos in relation to Jesus is definition b3 in the lexicon, leader of Israel in the Jewish theocracy...God bless you brother
@@bobbywolfe7191 almighty God is the divine conscienceness of the sacrifical lamb/body His own glorified body who sits on His glorious throne. And by His glorious NAME we are reconciled to His divine conscience. You are a body and spirit/soul in a body, and you in your conscience/mind is greater than your body, but it is your body that glorifies your as one person with a name. Almighty God is one in bodily form.
FATHER GOD made flesh Emanuel, the great I AM In the Gospel of John. JESUS says I AM 7 times 7= Perfection, JESUS is the great I AM ,GOD
@@bobbywolfe7191 Jesus christ is the glorious NAME of almighty God who became flesh and dwelled with man as the sacrifical lamb/body of God and is not a separate God. There is but one almighty God, Everlasting father who is called Jesus the christ and as the glorified lamb is now sitting on His glorious throne and sent the seven holy spirits standing before the throne to the seven churches of the world to testify to the gospel of Jesus christ ❤
Qur'an
For He knows whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And Allah is Most Capable of everything.”
God doesn't need help
Jesus mother was not yet born, therefore he can't exist until then the miracle birth.
@@ismaelmahmud6094 Zechariah 12-10 YHWH almighty God said, I will pour out a Spirit of grace and supplication on them Israel, and they will look on Me the one they have pierced and they will mourn. Almighty God tells us He is the one on the cross long before the crucifixion of Jesus christ, and that He has a body. And this is why we are created in God's image.
@@marcusvanrensberg6060 Zechariah prophesies that, in the End of Days,
Not past events .
Also the wrong translation checks the Hebrew Bible.
It's him or me?
@@ismaelmahmud6094 Jesus christ is the power/eternal Spirit of life and the wisdom/divine conscienceness of God in bodily form. And the scriptures says that Jesus christ was before all things and created all things. And is the glorious NAME of almighty God, not a separate God or person.
@@marcusvanrensberg6060 do you know what eternal is ?
Has no beginning or end. And no growing, on the 8 days jesus was circumcised, meaning jesus is growing.
The miracle birth of Jesus, he has a beginning and according to the Bible resurrection of Jesus, therefore the word eternal does not apply to him.
In order to be Eternal you have to be immortal .
Hosea 11:9
God is not a man,the holy one
Only God is eternal, immortal unchangeable etc....
1
@@ismaelmahmud6094 Do you have the scriptures that says, Jesus Christ the sacrifical lamb/body of God was glorified after the crucifixion and is now sitting on His glorious throne and gives direction to all things. Do you have a old testament Bible?
The sacrifical lamb is not created, and is God the word who became flesh and dwelled with man to remove the sins of the world. And Jesus Christ is the glorious NAME of almighty God who became flesh. Jesus christ the NAME of God is not a separate God or person.
Proverbs 30:4
What is God's name, AND what is the name of the Son?
2John 1:3 Grace and mercy be to you from from God the Father, and from Jesus Christ,
the Son of the father,
in love and truth.
New converts repackaged the Narrative, without Apostolic succession, OR "most importantly" biblical framework.
Ex UPC
@@mstru79 The son of God is the sacrifical lamb/body of God, who is God the word who became flesh and dwelled with man as Emmanuel God with us, and He revealed His new testament NAME to Mary and the world by His angel Gabriel. And the glorious NAME of almighty God, as Jesus the christ is not a separate person or God it is the righteous flesh and blood of God that is the salvation of mankind. Therefore if you reject the son you reject the father, because they are one and the same almighty God. You have a body and spirit, as one person with a name.
@@mstru79 Question, Does your Bible say, that Jesus christ become flesh and dwelled with man, or that God the word became flesh and dwelled with man?
@@mstru79 Jesus christ said to the Pharisees, you have never heard God's voice nor seen His form, nor does His word dwell in you, for you do not believe Me. You diligently study the scriptures because you think that by then you possess eternal life, these are the scriptures that testify about Me, yet you refuse to come to Me to have eternal life, Jesus Christ is the Everlasting father Mighty God, living water of life, bread of life, the eternal Spirit of life in all things and the one and only savior of the world.
@@marcusvanrensberg6060Jesus is God. John 1:18