Thank you thank you thank you... Finally someone who took the time to explain how to INITIALLY setup a rifle to sight it in. Subscribed to your channel just because of that. Thanks again. I look forward to more vids. Not all of us had father's who where into guns.
Remember for all of us sighting in at 25 yards, which I also prescribe; if you have a scope of 1/4" moa movements that is 1/16" movement at 25 yards. You generally need 3-4 times the clicks, so 12-16 per inch - and I have seen more.
My son is looking at buying one in 7mm-08 also. He loves the 308 but wants a flatter shooting round so in his research he come up with the 7mm-08. I've hunted with the .270 all of my life, took many deer and hogs with it but I might be switching.
I have 2 of them (450bm and 350 legend) and have a 308 on order. I’ll probably end up with a 22-250 and maybe a 6.5CM. I wish they chambered it in 223.
@@randallkelley3600 Yes, I did get it. Fit and finish are good, functions perfect. Put weaver style bases that fit Savage 110 on front and back with weaver mounts and a Leupold II 3x9 on it that I had laying around. I have only shot lead bullets through it so far just to see if any of them shot well. 1st time out was with some 200gr and 230 gr bullets I had cast for 45acp. It was raining that day so we didn’t shoot off the bench so I don’t have any accuracy reports for it. Functioned perfectly. Next time out was with a new Lee bullet that dropped at 259grs with I sized to 252 and then powder coated and loaded them sized at 254 with fairly stout loads of LilGun. They didn’t group well at. I’m going to size them back to 252 and load with some Unique to get some good (hopefully) accuracy results. I haven’t shot any factory or jacketed rounds yet. I think I will need jacketed bullets for the hotter loads. This has pretty fast twist which might be working against the cast bullets. I’m going to play some more (after I recover from the neck surgery I just got) and I’m sure I’ll find loads that shoot great.
@@bepropheta6665 An update to this. I’ve settled in on a Lee 230gr TC cast bullet and Unique powder. This bullet has a beveled base and will accept a gas check which tightens up the groups. Still love the Cascade, bought another in 350 legend and have a 308 on order.
I staple a snuff can lid at 100 yards to a target. Them I aim for the bottom edge. When the bullet hits Dead Center, you're good out to 200 with the 165 gr. 308. Same formula for most non-magnums.
So far so good. I’ve not had any issues at all. The more i use this rifle, the more I like it! Killed 2 deer this year and both over 250 yards and no issues.
I didn't catch you mention the failure to fire. Was it light strike, or what might it have been? Also, didn't seem like it happened much towards the end of the video.
@@peterogers1795 I see it now, the bolt moves quite a bit when the trigger is pulled. Would you say that the bolt is too easy to open? I've never experienced a bolt not closed all the way, and in fact, bolts tend to have some sort of anti rotation qualities to them.
@@carlosfigueroa847 many bolt actions are prone to light strikes if the bolt isn’t completely and intentionally fully closed. I speak mostly from experience with ruger American rifles but have also seen it with tikka and savage rifles first hand. My father just came back from a successful mule hunt in Montana and experienced a light strike when he was lined up on a buck. 2 other people in his party also had similar experiences with a Remington and savage rifles in .300 win mag and 7mm. 3/5 people experienced light strikes in his party, all using Hornady ELD-X or SST😅 Ive never had a hornady round fail me and sum it up to user error. Probably after walking for miles even with the rifle chambered and safety engaged the bolt can be slightly lifted just from bumping around on gear. When you switch it to fire and don’t give the bolt that final 5 degree check it WILL happen.
@@peterogers1795 to come back to this, and to add to what has been said here, I see what you mean about the bolt not being closed all the way. I've never experienced an issue because every rifle I've owned locks the bolt when on safe, but I understand that Remington 700 and this cva don't. It's a 2 position safety that doesn't lock the bolt. I've shot a box through my cva cascade, and I've never experienced that the bolt doesn't come all the way into battery in MY natural bolt cycle.
5:04 is what happened to me cost me what would of been my biggest buck of my life it was with my savage the bolt was not all the way shut or locked in place but my savage didnt even make the click sound to let me know that was the issue and the trigger would not pull made me think i forgot to take it off safe checked the safety lined back up on the buck standing broadside at 60 yards and gun wouldn't fire ofc was not until after he ran away that i figured out thats what happened never had that happen before and it won't happen again.
Nice review. Considering looking at one of these in a store for future purchase. I know the barrel is good just a bit concerned about the safety and trigger. Something that should be done hands on.
The trigger is the best I have ever tested from the factory...my trigger scale had it at 1.8 lb average in 20 pulls. but I too like to feel it before buying it.
I purchased my CVA Cascade several months ago. It has been nothing short of impressive. My trigger came in around 3 lbs, but it’s easy to adjust, and now it’s weighing in around 2 lbs. It has a crisp trigger and I love it. The stock is amazing for a budget rifle. It’s rigid, floating, and has plenty of space around the barrel. It has a nice soft touch finish to go with it. The barrel is a Bergara barrel, what else is there to say? It didn’t take but a few shots down range for me to get acquainted with the safety. It’s now an automatic placement with my thumb to engage the switch. It has a three lug bolt, and I believe, a 70 degree lift. Honestly, for the money, you cannot beat this rifle. It also has an adjustable stock and threaded barrel. Those last two options are nice, but neither are used for my application. I had a budget of $1,200 for my rifle alone. I didn’t say anything to the salesman, but he immediately walked me over to the Cascade. After handling it, I started reading up on that CVA. I read every forum possible with those who had purchased the rifle. People raved about it, so I went back a few weeks later and purchased my CVA in 6.5 PRC. The $600 savings went towards even a nicer scope, rings, and mount than I had originally budgeted for. My rifle is a tack driver, and it’s a joy to shoot. I can’t wait till hunting season here in a couple weeks. Good luck to which ever route you decide to go with. If you decide on the CVA, you will not regret it.
Bergara owns CVA. It has a bergara barrel and budget bergara action. It is a good rifle, however, with standard Bergara branded rifles for sale for less than $100 more at Sportsman's, is it really a great value? Imho, just pay $100-$200 more for a standard B-14, and have a lifetime rifle, rather than the CVA branded rifle. Edit: My LGS has the CVA Cascade in 6.5 Creed (blech) for $649. They also have a Bergara B-14 in 6.5 Creed for $749. Kinda my point about value.
I experienced twice the savings you’ve seen. My CVA was $599 while the B-14 was $850 at my local Sportsman’s Warehouse. The Bergara was slightly heavier than the CVA as well. I went in with the notion to purchase either the Browning, Bergara or the Sauer 100, I left with the CVA and a higher end scope than I had originally budgeted due to the savings. For the price, you can’t beat this rifle. It’s been a tack driver and I have no regrets whatsoever. Love this rifle!
They’re both excellent rifles. I’d consider either to be “lifetime” rifles and neither to be heirlooms. They’re good honest hunting rifles, but I couldn’t care less about the Bergara branding or lack thereof. Now, I have a beautiful 1953 Winchester Model 70 Sporter in .270 that will be passed to my son when he is ready and knows how to care for it. That’s an heirloom rifle and a lifetime rifle. I’ve got a Ruger American in .243 with a painted stock that is nothing particularly special except that it shoots itty bitty groups with just about everything I put through it. That rifle is not expensive, but I tell you what, it’s an excellent hunting rifle.
the barrel floats easily and the stock never interferes with the barrel. I highly recommend it. The one I tested was in .308. But I have shot the 6.5 creedmoor and it was awesome also.
Pete Rogers I have a few cheaper rifles and was thinking of a tikka but I have decided I wanted cerakote and threaded barrel. Some just have horrible stocks and I don’t want to spend $300 on one. Does the stoc flex easy?
@@mr.mr.3301 I have not noticed it. I even checked it when you wrote me and cannot seem to get it to flex. the Cascade will sell under $600 without a scope. It is an impressive rifle
Liked your review overall. However, twice you failed to lock the bolt handle down. Now I am unsure if the firearm or you were the cause. Secondly, you fired the light trigger setting before you were ready so it leaves me wondering if it was the very light trigger or you not used to the trigger. You repeated stated you loved the trigger and that is informative to me. Respectfully, thank you. I did learn from your video.
Anymore updates? Just ordered this in .300WM. Don't think mine has the picatinny rail tho. Didnt see it mentioned or in the pics. Ordered one from amazon the same time I ordered the gun tho.
Honestly, the Cascade is a superior rifle in many ways. The trigger alone is far better than any I have tried out of the box. The cerakote finish and threaded barrel all, in my opinion, make it a better rifle. The Ruger is a fine rifle, but 10 out of 10 times I’d choose the Cascade over the Ruger American.
I don’t understand why you don’t have the rifle positioned on the right side of the bench. For most shooters shooting with the rifle closer certainly makes for a more natural shouldering/cheek weld. You’re usually in a more upright position reducing perceived recoil. Just my two cents, but it appears the rest is lifting the bolt from full battery. It also appears that it’s too easy to come out of full battery. As for the trigger any pull weight below two lbs is not realistic for a hunting rifle. Again, just one ole man’s view on this review.
Per th CVA manual the rifle should be fired once then cleaned and repeated for first five shots then every 10 shots if memory serves correctly....you didn't clean once on a new gun....seemed to work ok....
Why use the vise if you don't lock it in? Just use the bags. Anyhow, the first may-pop I got would have sent that pos back to the factory faster than it left. A savage Axis won't do that--for $100 less.
Any gun will do this if the bolt is not fully locked it’s called “Safety protocol” this is why manufacturers have these for the dumb people in the comment section. Go buy a garbage savage at Walmart lol.
Thank you thank you thank you... Finally someone who took the time to explain how to INITIALLY setup a rifle to sight it in. Subscribed to your channel just because of that. Thanks again. I look forward to more vids. Not all of us had father's who where into guns.
Remember for all of us sighting in at 25 yards, which I also prescribe; if you have a scope of 1/4" moa movements that is 1/16" movement at 25 yards. You generally need 3-4 times the clicks, so 12-16 per inch - and I have seen more.
Yes! Thank you for adding that. I should have covered it in the video.
I'm starting to really like the Cascade I've been thinking about buying me one of those in 7mm08
Awesome caliber
I want one too.
My son is looking at buying one in 7mm-08 also. He loves the 308 but wants a flatter shooting round so in his research he come up with the 7mm-08. I've hunted with the .270 all of my life, took many deer and hogs with it but I might be switching.
I have 2 of them (450bm and 350 legend) and have a 308 on order. I’ll probably end up with a 22-250 and maybe a 6.5CM. I wish they chambered it in 223.
@@Brett235 The Cascade is a great rifle, I think you and your son would both be happy with them.
Great show and hit perfectly and thank you for the info
Very nice review sir, thank you. You are a great instructor, it is for sure educational
I just ordered one of these in 450 Bushmaster! Thanks for the great video and review, it helped me with my decision.
Did you get it yet? I’m interested in a Cascade in that caliber too, but haven’t found a review or even a non-stock photo of one.
@@randallkelley3600 Yes, I did get it. Fit and finish are good, functions perfect. Put weaver style bases that fit Savage 110 on front and back with weaver mounts and a Leupold II 3x9 on it that I had laying around. I have only shot lead bullets through it so far just to see if any of them shot well. 1st time out was with some 200gr and 230 gr bullets I had cast for 45acp. It was raining that day so we didn’t shoot off the bench so I don’t have any accuracy reports for it. Functioned perfectly. Next time out was with a new Lee bullet that dropped at 259grs with I sized to 252 and then powder coated and loaded them sized at 254 with fairly stout loads of LilGun. They didn’t group well at. I’m going to size them back to 252 and load with some Unique to get some good (hopefully) accuracy results. I haven’t shot any factory or jacketed rounds yet. I think I will need jacketed bullets for the hotter loads. This has pretty fast twist which might be working against the cast bullets. I’m going to play some more (after I recover from the neck surgery I just got) and I’m sure I’ll find loads that shoot great.
@@bepropheta6665 An update to this. I’ve settled in on a Lee 230gr TC cast bullet and Unique powder. This bullet has a beveled base and will accept a gas check which tightens up the groups. Still love the Cascade, bought another in 350 legend and have a 308 on order.
I staple a snuff can lid at 100 yards to a target. Them I aim for the bottom edge. When the bullet hits Dead Center, you're good out to 200 with the 165 gr. 308. Same formula for most non-magnums.
What brand of 165 do you recommend?
Did you have 2 light primer strikes or did the rifle fail to load somehow. I'm at a loss here
I didn’t have the bolt closed completely- totally my fault
Afraid that’s too easy to do. Sure looked that way
Bolt was not completely closed, I re-watch it 3 times
I want the exact rifle or the new xt
I like 2 inch high at 100 for .308, my begara b14 likes 168gr amax sf clocks at 2770, deer do not however like them. Enjoyed have subscribed
Thank you. I too like the 168 gr. Sierra BTHP
How do you like your Begara b14? I'm looking at the b14, cascade or Tikka tx3 all 308. Hate making decisions
@@criah563 don't think you will go wrong with any of those....check out backfire's channel, good review of bergara and cascade
I like those rifles ,hard to beat for the money 💰 thanks for posting
Hey my favorite is 308 Nice rifle been thinking about getting a cva in 308
Picked one of these up today at my local Walmart for 299 in 350 legend. Like it so far. Feels well built. Gonna head out and shoot it tomorrow.
What version was it
Cascade comes in several different calibers...he said 350 legend
You aren't going to find this exact model for 299
The one at Walmart I saw was around $550-590 don’t remember exactly...had a scope on it so that’s probably why it was more
@@robertpowers1045 the camo stock with the cerakote barrels are on average 575-600
I have 300 win mag cva cascade I love that gun
Looks like the first shot at 100
Yards was an accidental discharge.
Maybe 1.3 lbs on the trigger is
Little light.
😁
no.....I did not have the bolt closed all the way and that caused it....totally my fault
Your honesty is refreshing. That
Kind of unintentional malfunction
Happens more than we Shooters
Would like to admit.
That 68 grainer seems to be a very accurate round.
Is that the #5 bergara barrel? Thanks for the review!
What manufacturer and grain bullet were you shooting?
Beautiful rifle and scope. Why mount it so high, though?
Are you happy with the quality of the cerakote? Any flaking or peeling?
So far so good. I’ve not had any issues at all. The more i use this rifle, the more I like it! Killed 2 deer this year and both over 250 yards and no issues.
@@peterogers1795 good to hear. I ordered one today in 7mm rem mag. I'm hoping it's accurate.
Thinking about buying one in 7mm rem mag. Very interested.
I didn't catch you mention the failure to fire. Was it light strike, or what might it have been? Also, didn't seem like it happened much towards the end of the video.
It was my fault - I didn’t have the bolt closed all the way.
@@peterogers1795 I'll have to watch it again then.
@@peterogers1795 I see it now, the bolt moves quite a bit when the trigger is pulled. Would you say that the bolt is too easy to open? I've never experienced a bolt not closed all the way, and in fact, bolts tend to have some sort of anti rotation qualities to them.
@@carlosfigueroa847 many bolt actions are prone to light strikes if the bolt isn’t completely and intentionally fully closed. I speak mostly from experience with ruger American rifles but have also seen it with tikka and savage rifles first hand. My father just came back from a successful mule hunt in Montana and experienced a light strike when he was lined up on a buck. 2 other people in his party also had similar experiences with a Remington and savage rifles in .300 win mag and 7mm. 3/5 people experienced light strikes in his party, all using Hornady ELD-X or SST😅 Ive never had a hornady round fail me and sum it up to user error. Probably after walking for miles even with the rifle chambered and safety engaged the bolt can be slightly lifted just from bumping around on gear. When you switch it to fire and don’t give the bolt that final 5 degree check it WILL happen.
@@peterogers1795 to come back to this, and to add to what has been said here, I see what you mean about the bolt not being closed all the way. I've never experienced an issue because every rifle I've owned locks the bolt when on safe, but I understand that Remington 700 and this cva don't. It's a 2 position safety that doesn't lock the bolt.
I've shot a box through my cva cascade, and I've never experienced that the bolt doesn't come all the way into battery in MY natural bolt cycle.
I had already watched this video before I met you!
And....:)
5:04 is what happened to me cost me what would of been my biggest buck of my life it was with my savage the bolt was not all the way shut or locked in place but my savage didnt even make the click sound to let me know that was the issue and the trigger would not pull made me think i forgot to take it off safe checked the safety lined back up on the buck standing broadside at 60 yards and gun wouldn't fire ofc was not until after he ran away that i figured out thats what happened never had that happen before and it won't happen again.
Nice review. Considering looking at one of these in a store for future purchase. I know the barrel is good just a bit concerned about the safety and trigger. Something that should be done hands on.
The trigger is the best I have ever tested from the factory...my trigger scale had it at 1.8 lb average in 20 pulls. but I too like to feel it before buying it.
I purchased my CVA Cascade several months ago. It has been nothing short of impressive. My trigger came in around 3 lbs, but it’s easy to adjust, and now it’s weighing in around 2 lbs. It has a crisp trigger and I love it. The stock is amazing for a budget rifle. It’s rigid, floating, and has plenty of space around the barrel. It has a nice soft touch finish to go with it. The barrel is a Bergara barrel, what else is there to say? It didn’t take but a few shots down range for me to get acquainted with the safety. It’s now an automatic placement with my thumb to engage the switch. It has a three lug bolt, and I believe, a 70 degree lift.
Honestly, for the money, you cannot beat this rifle. It also has an adjustable stock and threaded barrel. Those last two options are nice, but neither are used for my application.
I had a budget of $1,200 for my rifle alone. I didn’t say anything to the salesman, but he immediately walked me over to the Cascade. After handling it, I started reading up on that CVA. I read every forum possible with those who had purchased the rifle. People raved about it, so I went back a few weeks later and purchased my CVA in 6.5 PRC. The $600 savings went towards even a nicer scope, rings, and mount than I had originally budgeted for.
My rifle is a tack driver, and it’s a joy to shoot. I can’t wait till hunting season here in a couple weeks.
Good luck to which ever route you decide to go with. If you decide on the CVA, you will not regret it.
Whats the tightest group you’ve shot?
I love that gun
The sling looks like it matches the guns camo. What sling is that? I just bought the gun and would love to have a matching sling for it
It is a Quake sling. You can get it here. quake.bpishopping.com/shop.html
Did you ever find this sling in the matching camo pattern? The only Quake product I can find close is the "camo" pattern they offer.
Bergara owns CVA. It has a bergara barrel and budget bergara action. It is a good rifle, however, with standard Bergara branded rifles for sale for less than $100 more at Sportsman's, is it really a great value?
Imho, just pay $100-$200 more for a standard B-14, and have a lifetime rifle, rather than the CVA branded rifle.
Edit: My LGS has the CVA Cascade in 6.5 Creed (blech) for $649. They also have a Bergara B-14 in 6.5 Creed for $749. Kinda my point about value.
I experienced twice the savings you’ve seen. My CVA was $599 while the B-14 was $850 at my local Sportsman’s Warehouse. The Bergara was slightly heavier than the CVA as well. I went in with the notion to purchase either the Browning, Bergara or the Sauer 100, I left with the CVA and a higher end scope than I had originally budgeted due to the savings. For the price, you can’t beat this rifle. It’s been a tack driver and I have no regrets whatsoever. Love this rifle!
They’re both excellent rifles. I’d consider either to be “lifetime” rifles and neither to be heirlooms. They’re good honest hunting rifles, but I couldn’t care less about the Bergara branding or lack thereof. Now, I have a beautiful 1953 Winchester Model 70 Sporter in .270 that will be passed to my son when he is ready and knows how to care for it. That’s an heirloom rifle and a lifetime rifle. I’ve got a Ruger American in .243 with a painted stock that is nothing particularly special except that it shoots itty bitty groups with just about everything I put through it. That rifle is not expensive, but I tell you what, it’s an excellent hunting rifle.
Any updates to the cascade? I figured it would’ve gotten more accurate more broke In.
mine is shooting sub MOA out to 200 and MOA at 300. No issues on accuracy with mine
Would you say the stock is rigid? If you press down on the stock can you get it to touch the barrel easy? Thinking of getting one.
the barrel floats easily and the stock never interferes with the barrel. I highly recommend it. The one I tested was in .308. But I have shot the 6.5 creedmoor and it was awesome also.
Pete Rogers I have a few cheaper rifles and was thinking of a tikka but I have decided I wanted cerakote and threaded barrel. Some just have horrible stocks and I don’t want to spend $300 on one. Does the stoc flex easy?
@@mr.mr.3301 I have not noticed it. I even checked it when you wrote me and cannot seem to get it to flex. the Cascade will sell under $600 without a scope. It is an impressive rifle
Pete Rogers May order one in a few. Thank you.
Pete Rogers last question what rail did you go with?
Very well done video. Nice rifle. If I buy one it will be in 308 or 243.
thank you....I love my .308
I was going to say if it’s dead on at 25 it should be high at 100.
Great rifles ,you didn't like the konus scope?
Want one.... Have the $$$ for it. But availability is iffy. 😥
Also looking at a Bergara HMR.
Liked your review overall.
However, twice you failed to lock the bolt handle down. Now I am unsure if the firearm or you were the cause. Secondly, you fired the light trigger setting before you were ready so it leaves me wondering if it was the very light trigger or you not used to the trigger. You repeated stated you loved the trigger and that is informative to me.
Respectfully, thank you. I did learn from your video.
If you look at his "rest " vice is right at the bolt. I think his fingers were hitting vise before bolt handle was home.
I would buy one in a 243 but they’re hard to find.
They are getting easier to find. The .243 is a great round for sure.
Anymore updates? Just ordered this in .300WM. Don't think mine has the picatinny rail tho. Didnt see it mentioned or in the pics. Ordered one from amazon the same time I ordered the gun tho.
Does the bolt have that noise that sounds like metal rubbing like the ruger American does?
What ammo are you going to use to hunt?
I reload my own. But they are copies of the Federal 168 grain. Sierra Match King bullets.
What kind of scope is that?
Seriously considering that same rifle.
How do you think the cascade stacks up against the ruger american
Honestly, the Cascade is a superior rifle in many ways. The trigger alone is far better than any I have tried out of the box. The cerakote finish and threaded barrel all, in my opinion, make it a better rifle.
The Ruger is a fine rifle, but 10 out of 10 times I’d choose the Cascade over the Ruger American.
Gotta close the bolt all the way or the gun will not fire
Would you buy again ....
Mr smith absolutely I would but again. Very impressed.
Hows the stock feel... like I had a ruger american and I could twist the stock to hit the barrel ... do you plan on getting a break for it...
Mr smith the stock is solid. And i probably will not get a muzzle break.
absolutely.
I don’t understand why you don’t have the rifle positioned on the right side of the bench. For most shooters shooting with the rifle closer certainly makes for a more natural shouldering/cheek weld. You’re usually in a more upright position reducing perceived recoil.
Just my two cents, but it appears the rest is lifting the bolt from full battery. It also appears that it’s too easy to come out of full battery.
As for the trigger any pull weight below two lbs is not realistic for a hunting rifle.
Again, just one ole man’s view on this review.
Got a problem with that false firing, don't like a click and no bang
It's the operator not the firearm...he wasn't closing the bolt the whole way
The rifle keeps clicking because your not cycling the bolt handle all the way down
You need about 5 inches added to the height of bench
The bolt handle was not in battery hence the misfire
Per th CVA manual the rifle should be fired once then cleaned and repeated for first five shots then every 10 shots if memory serves correctly....you didn't clean once on a new gun....seemed to work ok....
No one really does that nor is it necessary
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NOT A WORD ABOUT RIFLE NOT GOING OFF WHEN ITS SUPPOSED TOO?????
Thad’s not how .. to bore sight at a 25
Why use the vise if you don't lock it in? Just use the bags. Anyhow, the first may-pop I got would have sent that pos back to the factory faster than it left. A savage Axis won't do that--for $100 less.
he didn't have the bolt all the way down on the second shot
Two dry fires and it would have went back no time for that
@@brucebonnett4065 Without question. Any misfire is totally unacceptable to me and I don't care how nice the rest of the gun is.
Operator error,bolt wasn't closed fully
Any gun will do this if the bolt is not fully locked it’s called “Safety protocol” this is why manufacturers have these for the dumb people in the comment section. Go buy a garbage savage at Walmart lol.
Not much of a review