Federal Judge Restricts Idaho Wolf Trapping Over Grizzly Bears
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Well,....I was afraid this was going to happen. Federal Idaho Judge Candy Dale shortened Idaho's Wolf trapping season by 4 months. The Anti-trapping folks used Grizzly Bears as an excuse.....feeble as it is, it worked. Not good news, but it could have been worse, Federal Judge Don Molloy limited Montana's wolf trapping season to just 1 1/2 months, Idaho trappers will still have 3 months....all in the toughest weather conditions of the year....
Anyway....here's the scoop.....
Once again the government is dictating what a private land owner what they can and cannot do on their property !
That begs the question ...
Do we really own anything or are we really free if the government can restrict, confiscate, jail or fine you
for doing things on "your" land ?
Exactly! What about yearly "Land Taxes" isn't double taxation illegal? Even 100% paid for, you don't own the land.
Stop paying your property taxes and see what you own you're only leasing
So danm true!
i agree you shouldnt pay land tax you payed when you bought it! again a bunch of dummy's that dont know crap about a subject makin a law on the subject. @@MuskratOutdoors
And once again the Federal Government is and has infringed on States rights! The State of Texas has just demonstrated that the Federal government has no jurisdiction over the will of the people in Texas. Texas is now securing it's own border. Those wolves were shoved down the throats of the Western States via paid off politicians through lobbyists.
Good morning Gary. I totally agree that Judges who do not reside in the state should not have the power to make decisions about what the state is actually facing. Same thing is going on in Wisconsin. It’s my opinion that it all depends on where the money is coming from. Anyway, you have a great day!!
Pretty sure in Wisconsin, it's looked at as the wolf kills deer. Well, American Family insurance co. has deeper pockets than the hunting community (right down to lodge owners) or DNR. Deer cost them A LOT of money at bodyshops. So..."deer=bad".
It's 100% emotion and money.
I didn't think about that, but I bet you are right.
And while these fairytale minded people play god with our apex predators, our ungulates continue to be slaughtered in their wintering grounds, and wilderness that was once thriving with elk, moose, and mule deer herds are now complete dead zones.
The ignorance of these city dwellers that have never stepped a foot into a drainage wiped out by uncontrolled wolf numbers is scary!!
Thank you for the update
@@rockstarrick2021 It has happened here too. Last deer / elk season was the worst I have seen in the 33 years we have been here. Funny how they love and protect "The Majestic symbol of the wilderness....the noble Wolf" but don't give a damn about the other animals.
Total bs move by the judge. No room for politics in our justice system should be tolerated.
I agree. I kind live with the shortened season, but lot with the reason for it.
Funny how quick the lines start building as quick as you release the video each morning.😊 Kinda like we're waiting on it to drop. Hmmmmm. Pretty impressive work for someone who tends to think his videos are boring. Truly, your videos are far from boring. I really do enjoy listening to your ramblings about various subjects.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH! You really have no idea how much that helps!
Good morning Muskrat, I personally haven’t hunted or trapped in many years. I just don’t understand why the feds always lean towards giving the deepest pockets their way about anything, especially when it comes to hunting and fishing at a state level of control. I hope that you have a great season regardless of the cutbacks of your season. Have a wonderful day and stay safe, Wolf
Above the grass again. These clowns are closing in on our wonderful State. I am sure you are seeing a little bit of the increase of pilgrims. Nothing like the flatland. It is incredible. Idaho is turning purple really fast and as far as I am concerned, it is not good. With her logic, Elk are endangered in the Lolo zone. Clowns. Thanks for sharing and stay safe out there.
It's a disease that is spreading faster than covid ever could!
I’ve been watching this story for a while now. What a joke. I agree with you 100%. So many things wrong with this decision that I’d be writing a month from now. I hope the Supreme Court steps in and changes the ruling or the remove the grizzlies from the endangered species act. How can I have any say in your laws? Ridiculous. Let’s hope for common sense to prevail. 👍👍
It's 100% political Chess. The grizzly bears are just a pawn in the game. It has nothing to do with bears.
God bless you Gary for getting the word out this is serious business unfortunately we have to deal with it which we will.
Thank you Tom. It sucks, but it will work out. Idaho Fish & Game is looking into legal options to either change this, or change the rules.
Sorry to hear that this has happened to you also. In my area in Montana we went from the 90 day trapping season to 45 days with the same argument from the antis. And our quota went from 82 to 52 in our region . Mont. FWP has appealed the decision , but no ruling yet, not sure what our season will look like for 2024 -2025.
Once the Grizzly is delisted that argument should be lame. We all have to get better at trapping in snow and freezing conditions , but the freeze thaw conditions make if difficult.
You Folks have it worse than we do. Shorter season, and more restrictive rules. I don't like losing part of our season, but it could have been much worse. I can live with this, but I'm afraid it's just the start. They found something that worked, they won't stop now. This Summer, I'll put trail cameras out everywhere I can and try to find out where they will be. Get the snowmobile out and running as best as I can, and hope things all fall into place. Adapt or die....it's always been that way.....don't let them win without a fight!
Amen Gary , we just have to adapt to the changes and hope this will change for the future. Plan on making plenty of wax dirt or sand. Use traps that will fire up thru the snow and crust. Not sure the MB750 is a good winter trap@@MuskratOutdoors
We are two counties south of Boundary. No grizzlies here but plenty of wolves. Another terrible decision that will impact wildlife populations as well as livestock owners. We enjoy your videos.
Yep. It's not about the bears, they just found an excuse to stop wolf trapping is all. You watch, this worked, so there will be more animals "to save from wolf traps" yet to come.
And when they can't use the grizzly bear excuse then they'll use the wolverine.
Exactly! Or the Lynx, or a dozen other animals. It has nothing to do with grizzly bears.
Looks like a dependable snowmobile and a good sled could be useful. The kind like Camo cowboy uses. Don't forget the snowshoes. At least they did not close the season completely. Looks to be a "sequence" type of day.
Exactly! I have one. This Summer I'll make sure it's running as well as possible. This will make things harder, but we just need to adapt. More challenge is all, and that's what I like about trapping anyway. Our season is still twice as long as Montana's.....I feel bad for those guys and I'm happy it wasn't worse.
Thats terrible how the judges are ruling against wolf trapping in all the states! I hope you still catch what you can! Thank you very much for sharing and Good luck with everything my friend!
I hope so too. This is going to make it hard to get where I need to go. I do have a snowmobile if the snow gets too deep.
As usual the people in charge shouldn't be although I don't give a rats ass about a grizzly or a wolf or most people! Thanks Gary.
100% Right Ron.
Since im from Oklahoma and dont know much of anything about bears or wolves, its hard for me to weigh in for or against either view. But, i will say that those who live within the affected areas should be the ones weighing in and having the ultimate power of decision.. Politicians think they know so much more than they actually do and make decisions based on way too much faulty data.
Exactly! It's easy to rule on things the wrong way when it doesn't affect you.
People are ignorant about to managing critters its a shame truly a shame.
100% Right. Either extreme is a bad thing. Management should be to benefit the animals.
SSS
Not yet Don....there's still the F4WM!!!!
And the ruling doesn't stop wolf trapping, in fact it actually makes the taking of wolves when they are prime, bringing more moneys to the trappers, the killing of nuisance wolves with firearms are not restricted, so what's the problem?????
Did you watch this video and listen? That is what I said. Predator control when needed, is a must, no matter what time of the year. We should have the option of taking care of problems when they happen but real trappers trap for prime pelts. We trap for prime pelts, predator control, and animal number management. Traps are a tool, nothing more.
This is going to make things harder, but I'm OK with it.
Hunting is still an option, but much less affective. On a good day, a hunter can hunt maybe 12 hours, traps hunt 24 hours....each trap in each spot. A hunter can't be in a dozen places at once.
Good morning friend hope you have a great day today
Good Morning to you!
Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for watching too!
After all that if I seen a grizzly going after a conversation officer & had a gun to help them. I WOULDN'T!!! Instead l would yell show the grizzly your badge same with those Humane Society folks show the grizzly how much you care put your arms out for a big bear hug😂😂😂
HA! That would be funny!
If we had wolves and grizzlies in the urban interface opinions would change quickly. It's easy to see them as cuddly and cute when they are not threatening your lifestyle.
California has a Grizzly Bear on it's state's flag.....aren't they "Extinct" there too? I bet they would like it there again....
The wolves and grizzlies are pushing the cougars down into the interface where the deer hide and cyclists roam.
Good morning Gary.
I had been reading about this probably about 2 weeks ago. I don't like it. Once the antis get a victory, it gives them momentum and encouragement. Not good.
Have a good day my friend.
100% my thoughts too. They found something that worked, they won't stop now. Wolverines, Lynx, Mountain Lions....none of them hibernate. People are going to say I'm giving them ideas...HA! They might be deranged, but they aren't stupid. They have already thought of this....
A appeal should have been taken against the judge for" Abuse of Discretion".
Agree, this is a department of wildlife issue and I don't understand how judges can change their regulations.
The Idaho Fish & Game is looking into legal options to fight this....we are just getting started....hang on tight!
Me either.....
@@MuskratOutdoors Awesome to hear Muskrat!
Thank you for the video man.
Thanks for watching it too!
Morning fine sir 🌞
Good Morning!
3:01 There's a lot of difference between threatened and endangered. The judge twisted the meaning. Does that change the hunting season for wolves. Thank the lobbiest. It's actually about money. Lining pockets. This is how I feel about it. Thanks for another great video.🇺🇸🤔Snowed up here last night. I thought the state took over management of the wolves.🤔
Exactly Steve. The Endangered Species Act, started out as a good idea, but has been twisted into a weapon by the anti's. The State has been in charge for years, but the feds still block and threaten them.
@@MuskratOutdoors do me a favor checkout a song called " Rich men north of Richmond ". Oliver Anthony. You'll like it. Nothing but truth!!!!
You got idiots in your state too! We just got a bobcat season here and they are gonna charge an extra license. Bobcats are destroying everything
It's more about money than management most tmes.
@@MuskratOutdoors yes sir
It's sad that people that know nothing about the outdoors get to make the rules. The wildlife biologists should set the rules.
100% Right!
As far as I know there's no documented catch of a grizzly bear in Idaho with leg hold or snare. We already limit snaring as it is. We've had 1,600 people go through the trapping classes in Idaho working on the ethics and the best use practices educating the public and working with the other Sportsman's groups through the different organizations.
I didn't think we had caught/killed any either, but this says 2 in Boundry County? This is purely political. These people don't really care about grizzly bears so much as they want to stop wolf trapping, and all trapping of any kind. Idaho has done this right. They have trained trappers both in what to do, as well as what not to do. They pushed a bit too hard, too fast last move, and now we are paying for it though.
So this “judge” is telling people what they can do on their own private property. We don’t have grizzly bears here either but that doesn’t mean they are extinct here. They just live somewhere else. As long as trappers use the traps that allow grizzly bears to get free, there is no reason to restrict the wolf trapping.
100% Right! It makes no sense. Snares are only allowed here when the bears should be sleeping already.
Well Gary... If it helps.. we can't trap wolves or grizzly here in Ohio either.
😂😂😂
HA! I reckon not! Thanks!
Just saying. On the flip side it'll let the wolf pop increase.
It will do that. Our deer and elk are already in short supply. I wonder what they will eat besides cattle?
This ruling should be rectified thru appeal,` also the Sportsman's organizations are working feverishly to repeal The Endangered Species Act we should have a a ruling on this soon. Judge candy Dale has no business rulling on this it is beyond her scope. This is the war that we're in keep up the fight don't weaken. We need all Sportsman with the shoulder to the wheel we need to turn up the wick. Hold the Line.
I hope so. I don't believe this will be the end of this. It's just part of the "Game". Better or worse, this isn't over yet.
Do you think this is possibly a back door attempt to cut back on wolf trapping?
That's 100% what it's about. The Grizzly Bears are just a chess piece.
It's all about control over the citizens.
I tell you what Gary, even if we get the management of the Griz back to our state (I'm in NW Corner of Montana) we are still gonna have a constant fight. These judges that are making these decisions have absolutely no clue what they are doing. Malloy screwed us, and this Candy broad got you guys. Malloy took 6 weeks off of our wolf trapping season this past year. It's all a damn shame.
You are 100% Right. The anti's found something that worked. They won't stop with Grizzly Bears. Wolverines, Lynx, and Mountain Lions don't den up....there will be more lawsuits and judges. If we can't find a way to fight this, we better get better at wolf hunting....
I agree with you 100%👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
Thank you!
its a shame that no decision can be made looking at both sides anymore , it dont matter if its buying bubble gum or wolf trapping .sad,sad,its hard to keep on keeping on .have a good day if you can good luck on the fencing.
It's more about money now I think.
I hope they get things squared away. There is an obvious lack of understanding by the judge. This is similar to gun law. My rights shouldnt be impeded because of your thoughts. If someone wanted to take it to Supreme Court it wouldn't hold up.
I do too. It's hard to say with our screwed up legal system today just how it would go. With the guns, we have our 2A rights, but Idaho's constitution says we have the right to "Hunt, trap and Fish forever" too.
@@MuskratOutdoors God Bless
Thats it! Now you have to run for office.
I end up thinking that every time i read some ignorant lawmaking in the paper.
Good Morning Muskrat, I think the Nuts in power,want to restore the Grizzlies to all of their former ranges 😅.
Well if there take your farm stock take them out buddy . Hey 👋 like 👍 our coyotes that move in to 709 . Did you see a 85 lbs coyotes, probably No because there not coyotes in my words fall under the wolves 🐺 weight and look 👀 like wolf . But 709 government think just over size eastern coyotes. Hard on caribou and moose calf start to see it now in the small game . Between you and me shot 15 and snares 31 this fall . My smallest to large one ☝️ this 37 lbs to 51 lbs . Now fall before got one ☝️ 65 lbs . You I know there big dogs went in a pack for sure . Hey 👋 there here now for life now . Came here probably 10 or 15 yr ago now . 😊
It's a mess.......
I think those that have been following what's happening in Montana knew what the outcome would be for Idaho. This ship needs to reverse course but I'm not sure how it's gonna happen or if it will. Sad state of affairs all around.
It was easy to see coming....I was hoping it wouldn't though. We still have double the trapping season Montana has, so it could have been worse.
As to Indian tribes against wolf management, I think plenty of their ancestors killed wolves when they got too numerous and were killing off a lot of elk, deer, and the bison. If there was a year where bison weren't moving about as much or weather didn't allow going great distances to find them, they would fall back on the elk and deer for meat, can't do that if there are too many wolves. Also Caitlin's( I think that's the artist) painting of the Indians in wolf skins stalking bison, as depicted before they had horses, kinda tells you something too. In the eastern woodlands there were far fewer bison than the plains, and they def would have been culling wolves. To say that wolves have had no predators on this land is false. The native people were the predators. The alpha predators ALWAYS go after the competition in nature. Think of hyenas and lions, it's not a rivalry, it's survival. Coyotes kill foxes, wolves kill coyotes.
100% Right! The Liberals want us to believe life was in perfect balance before the "white man" came, but it's not true. It has always been a struggle.
I live in Boundary County, Idaho and know the local Fish and Game warden responsible for grizzly bear as his specialty. He told me that there are ten grizzlies collared here but an additional hundred or more that are not collared in the area. The area consists of the top of the Panhandle, east into northwest Montana and north into British Columbia. I also know the most active wolf trapper in this area and have never heard of him trapping a grizzly by mistake. Rulings by federal judges make you wonder how they even graduated law school? Goes back to the saying that you can be smart as hell but have no common sense!
It's hard to imagine there is huge threat to Grizzly Bears from Wolf traps? I don't doubt some are caught, but how many? How many are released unharmed also? How many are actually killed? Now....how many are killed by cars every year? Should we fence off the roads, and ban cars? How many Grizzly Bears have attacked or killed people?
Whoa, I’ve made into a Muskrat Outdoors video! I’m officially part of the channel’s canon now!
Jokes aside, I’ve been thinking about this a lot, in combination with what you said in your response to my comment and in this video here.
Conservation groups have been pushing a lot of this stuff in the West lately. Don’t get me wrong, conservation is deeply important to me. But you have to ask the question of when conservation is turning into almost an extirpation of other wildlife when the animal they’re trying to conserve is having a negative effect on other wildlife populations, and thus the local environment.
What’s more, there is no grizzly populations near Salmon, the closet being either the Bitterroot Recovery Zone (which has no actual population) or Yellowstone. Just because maybe every few years a lone grizzly walks through that wolf trappers and ranchers have to suffer? I can understand up in Boundary County, where their permanent population is +\- 40. But in Lemhi County where the permanent population is… 0? Total hogwash. This isn’t about Grizzly Bears, we all know it. Sights had been set on Idaho to get rid of wolf trapping and hunting for years now. They finally got their “justification” to curbing it, to some extent.
I haven’t been here my entire life, but I take your word for it (along with many old timer hunters here) that elk populations just aren’t what they used to be. When you go into the mountains in your videos, you don’t see a lot of elk. Or if you do, the numbers are small. I feel like you see deer even less.
I’d be really interested to see the deer and elk populations now and thirty years ago to see the difference reintroduction has had on their populations.
The key in conservation is balancing populations of all critters in a ecosystem, not unleashing the reintroduction floodgates with tons of critters without allowing the ecosystem to naturally adjust overtime from it to find that balance. We don’t seem to have hit that balance.
But what do I know? I’m just a RUclips anon, not some wildlife biologist.
You are 100% Right! Thank you again for telling me about this. I heard it from you first. That's the part that makes me the most upset...management. Too many, expand the season, too few shrink the season. Wolves included. I wasn't for putting them here, but now that we have them, I like having a few around. The Extremes on either side really need to quit squabbling , meet in the middle and actually manage the wildlife.....all of the wildlife! Deer, elk, moose, wolves and even hunter numbers. This playground stuff needs to stop. It's not good for any of the wildlife, or the people.
Good Morning ... more stupid rules
Just another chess move. It's not over yet....
Good morning Mr muskrat ❤
GOOD MORNING!
Its all bs!thank you and have a good day!
Thank you, you too! It's hard to understand for sure.
Here in the once great state of Washington where we can no longer trap anything, they're going to re-introduce 5-7 grizzlies a year for the next 10 years
I'm not surprised. We moved here from there 33 years ago, and it was getting bad then. I'm sad to say, but Washington has been infested with the liberal disease. It's a sickness that has been spreading everywhere fast. Where are they planning on putting them? I'm guessing the Olympics? Hard to go back to Canada from there.
I think it should be mandatory for all politicians to go camping for one week in areas that grizzlies have been released , with there kids and grandchildren,
I bet there may change there minds on saving all the human eaters then.
I don't know about the Olympics, but Northern Cascades for sure, even though we already have a few. Game department had to trap and relocate a young boar from around Mazama last year.
We sure have a hell of alot of big gov idiots that need to be fired.
I don't see it getting better either. Not just this, but the whole country is becoming ruined.
Yeah some of those wolves go from canada to idaho and back.they are looking for grizzlies because they ate all deer elk moose coyote beaver turkey and whatever else they can get their teeth into.but there are plenty of grizzlies.they eat sheep cows pigs and chickens.have a great day!
There isn't much left here for wolves, bears, or human hunters.
Vote out all progressives and vote in all those who support hunting and fishing rights.. and those in favor and uphold the Constitution.and our inallienable rights
The federal judge that made this ruling was appointed not elected by the people. www.id.uscourts.gov/Content_Fetcher/index.cfml/Appointment_of_Chief_Magistrate_Judge_Candy_W._Dal_3773.pdf?Content_ID=3773
Idaho wrote it into our state constitution that we would have the right to hunt, fish, and trap forever.......kind of reminds me of what the Indians were told about "as long as the grass grows and the rivers flow".
Interesting! She has ruled against the anti's in the past, in favor of wolf management. I was surprised somewhat when I heard this news. I was hopeful she had some sense.
Thanks for the video ole mountain man. What the hell does a woman judge know about wildlife in Idaho. 😅
Thank you too! HA! It's hard to say.....it will work out in the end.....
We are dealing with the same kind of issues with fisher. They blue listed them in our region but I have a ton on my line. They haven’t cut back on the logging which destroys the habitat but it’s easy to go after the trapper as the general public doesn’t like trapping. When you add wolves into the mix, the general public goes crazy over any type of wolf kill regardless. It’s a fine line we trappers have to play with. As I type this, I’ll be heading out tomorrow to pull the rest of my snares because it is just too warm and the pelts are crappy now.
I'm afraid its a losing battle, but keep up the fight!
@@MuskratOutdoors it is, but we want to make the battle as long as possible 😁
@@deadpinecollective 100% Right!
Bureaucrats need to mind their own business when it comes to resource management. It seems to me that first of all 200 bears for Idaho doesn't sound like they are endangered, threatened maybe but not endangered. Secondly, a solution might be to break up the area into zones & manage by zones. Different seasons for different zones with some areas being less affected that others. That's what is done in this neck of the woods. Hope this helps. My advice is have a few Jack Daniels & ponder it.
Exactly! Whiskey sounds like a great plan too!
i'm from New York state an i can think of a judge from here would trade you lol have a good one
Where did that judge get her wildlife biology degree? "NOT" She is in no position to make any kind of ruling on any wildlife issue! Let the wildlife biologist do their job!!!!
It's hard to understand how or why animal activists have any say in any of this. They run on emotion, not facts or any kind of common sense. They think they are "Saving Wolves or Bears" but in truth they are doing more harm to them and the other wildlife than hunters or trappers ever will.
I live in Shoshone county south of Boundary co. Deer elk and moose populations have suffered greatly in the past years. Hasn't been a grizzly sighting reported since 2015. This is all about saving the wolf and probably money from of lobbies that have donated to such. The Judge was appointed not elected. So here we sit being ruled by the ruling class with no apparent recourse. Land of the free not so much.
It's 100% about stopping or limiting wolf trapping. The Grizzly Bears are just a chess piece. Watch for Wolverines, Lynx, and Mountain Lions next.....sad to say, they found something that worked, they won't stop now.
Needs to go to the supreme court
It might....
Wouldn't more wolves mean less food and territory for the Grizzlies?
Yep! Wolves have been known to kill grizzly cubs and denning bears also.
I am happy protect the wolves they are awesome. I don’t know how anyone can hurt them !
You have that right to think that way. They are amazing animals.....that tear other animals apart and eat them while they are still alive.....
@@MuskratOutdoors no they eat animals to live and survive! You killing them you are not eating them! They are just trying to feed there pups . They are amazing family animals
That's what the crooked judge did in Montana, the making it as hard as possible to catch a wolf by limiting the time of year you can trap.
They know getting in to the areas that have wolf is in possible during the months that is open
Exactly. Just wait.....Wolverines, Lynx, and mt. lions don't hibernate......coming soon......
The government gets to decide how many animals of varying verieties live in any given area. Not WE THE PEOPLE.
It sure seems that way....
Do not care for people meddling with our lives. Never stops.
Me either.....it gets old real fast!
Have a great day ❤
Thank you! You too!
Didn't idaho just announce non resident wolf tags were going to a draw system?
I haven't heard that? I don't think so?
I would love to live in Idaho just for all the wildlife and outdoor experience I am a hunter fisherman and trapper by heart been doing it since I was a kid used to run a trap line while riding my bicycle I really miss those days I'm a lot older now
That's why I live here too. Bicycle trapped as a kid too. The wild is more "inside" some of us than others.
@@MuskratOutdoors the wild is inside me and I'm never gonna give it up I bobcat hunting here in Virginia we don't have a lot of them but we do have enough where they eliminated the yearly quota we can take did not see 1 this past hunting season I hunt them only at night it would be almost in possible to to see 1 in broad daylight it's brushy here
As a montanan, i was starting to feel like you idaho guys were invincible. Sadly, they are screwing you over too.
I know....I've felt bad for you guys for a long time. I guess it's our turn....and really, our season is still longer that yours. It's not right....
Thanks for that brother !!!!!!
Thank you too.
How about letting the animal biologists and others in the field that spend their lives studying the populations make the rules ? Judges and popular options don’t have a clue !
EXACTLY!
The loss of trapping in the summer on private is really gonna affect what i do. I trap for ranchers in the summer that are having wolf. Loss.
It is going cause a lot of trouble. Predator control is needed year 'round. What will end up happening is some government trapper will steal your job. That is not right! We might need to get better at hunting them. I have a feeling Fish & Game will end up changing things soon. Those "expanded methods of take" might end up being year 'round I'm betting. Basically, they will be coyotes.
I am from the government and am here to help. Total bullshit.
HA! 100% !!!!!
Will the livestock in the elk population will gravely be affected in this area because of one judges decision to stop trapping on one predator so another predator can thrive. Can't fix stupid
Oh Boy ! Gov control , git outta my backyard....Nice Vlog Muskrat....Watching
Thank you Don!
We live in a country where politicians and judges defy other judge rulings based on their own ideology. Same should apply here as well. If they’re doing it then ppl of Idaho should do the same. It’s how the state/federal judicial system works now. A judge elsewhere should not have the ability to rule on a place he doesn’t reside.
I agree.
New that was comming . Cut your season down to 1 month ! Next will be to plant and protect Lynx and Wolverine as protected !
We already supposedly have a minimal population of lynx and wolverine though I spend a ton of time in the woods and haven't seen any sign of them. Our last griz sighting was 2015 yet now we have new trapping regs to save the very thing that has decimated our big game populations.
That's what happens when you have judges that wouldn't know a sheep dog from a wolf . Same people that are trying to run our ranchers and farmers out of buisness .
No, the new season will be December 1st-February 28th. 3 months. I agree about lynx, wolverine, and maybe mountain lions will be next. Unfortunately, they found something that worked.
You don't have a quota yet . We supposedly had same season you're talking about but in my region only 5 as a quota because bordering the park . By the time trapping opened , 4 were shot so didn't take long for 2 more . Sucks
@@timross7046 Not good. We had a quota years ago, but never came close to getting the 45 or so they allowed, so they did away with it. Are you by Yellowstone?
Hay I just recently subscribed to your channel would love to see more of your videos of past and present makes me feel like I'm in Idaho but I'm in Virginia ☹️
GREAT! WELCOME!!! There's several with wolves, and bears. The best one, although it might have helped get this decision made, is "Releasing a Big Bear from a Wolf Trap". The bear was unharmed, but that doesn't seem to matter I guess.
@@MuskratOutdoors Good morning Gary just curious what are your gas prices like in Idaho other than ridiculous $ 2.37 where I'm at and rising every week
@@martybritton267 Where are you at? $2.37 would be great! Ours is $3.40 yesterday. It's going up again soon they say....hard to run a long trapline with that! Oh, I just read your upper comment again. Virginia! I'm surprised it's that much less.
@@MuskratOutdoors excuse me that was a typo error our gas price is $ 3.27
I talked with a F&G person this weekend and he said they are talking about relocating some grizzly in the Bitter Root range.
They are planning to. About 25 years ago there was plans to release grizzlies here, but the idea kind of went away. Then suddenly Montana Judge Molloy blocked Montana's wolf trapping season, and the anti's saw something that worked.....not they want to put bears here? I's not about the bears, they are just a pawn in the game.
That is the way I see it as well.
They have zoom makes it easier for hunters to go to Fg&c meetings
I've heard of that, but don't know what it is.
Logica and nature politics do not mix wel we all experiencing that everywhere her to
100% Right! Way too many hard headed people on both sides, and the animals have no say in it, but it's them that suffer.
Getting a bear out of a wolf trap alive and unhurt that's a trick without you getting hurt by the bear
PS Start some fires. After fires comes grass, I said GRASS, then comes elk, deer and moose.
We have had huge ones here the last dozen years or so. It takes a long time to come back.....maybe someday.....
The price of tea in China.....
HA! Yup!
The folks that make the laws obviously follow whoever gives the most to them. Sad they don't live in reality.
It's hard to say. I want to think it's more fair than that. This Judge has ruled in our favor several times in the past. I don't know what the other side said, or how well prepared our side was? Other's, like Don Molloy, he's not a fair or honest judge at all.
Just wait now we have them in colorado
Without management, it took about 5 years for them to over populate here. First, there wasn't much difference, but then none of the elk had calves, and deer had no fawns, and the numbers fell. I doubt they will ever come back the way it was. Good luck. I hope your state will learn from ours and not let the numbers get too high....but I think that's hoping for too much.
I got an idea let’s out law federal judges
HA! I'm in favor of that!
They make these rules to frustrate you to stop trapping and hunting do what you want thomas Jefferson said the only right they can take is the one you let them take
It is frustrating, but ya can't give in!
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Sadly, it might come to that. We still have the F4WM.
Well, I bet that Grizzly Bears can be killed by cars and trucks. So, in the event that a Grizzly Bear could wander into your area of Idaho, the Judge should rule that during the months that Grizzly Bears are active. No vehicles can be used, even on private property. However, horses, either with saddle, bareback or backboard can be used for travel.
With a Federal Permit you can use a bicycle.
Actually, I think I would welcome that idea! The World needs to slow down.
Sad news
Yup.....
And how are they gonna stop us?
Play by the rules like it or not. Doing anything else just drags it out longer....
@@MuskratOutdoors lol enjoy the “freedom” that some liberal in Boise says you can have. That’ll get you back in the driver seat.
They don’t play by rules. They win however they can. It’s about time we start “playing” by the same rules.
There aren't any grizzlies in the clear water
Here either, except for a lone stray now and then....
Idaho needs to declare emminent domain over all federal lands in the state. Then start the proccess of planning and implementing new rules and regulations that gvie the people a wide variety of control over those land. Eliminate all wildernesses and plan new access to vast areas that allow the people from birth through their senior years to enjoy millions of acres in ways never before done before. It is time to STOP those who deem vast regions be blocked from most human access.
I like the Wilderness areas being there, but there does need to be a road through the center. It's a LONG ways around it. I would rather have wild places than condos and cities really....
Can this decision be appealed to a higher court?
I'm not sure.....maybe?
I AM HERE TO HELP YOU
Thanks!
Sounds like they are trying to reduce game and pick on farmers.
It's hard to understand just what they are thinking. It seems like this country's leaders are trying their best to destroy the country. This wolf trapping part, is actually pretty minor compared to the rest. It will work out, but it will be harder for sure.
@@MuskratOutdoors Same old politicians.
This is a load of horse shit. I just heard about it Saturday.
It is. It will work out though...
@@MuskratOutdoors all things do have a way of working out.
@@tnkmckenna They do. Just have to try harder this coming year to locate them and be ready when season opens.
This judge is likely fighting for the right to late term abortion, but is worried about a grizzly bear getting caught in a snare.
Go figure.
HA! Maybe? I couldn't say....
You know how I feel…🤨🤠
Yeah.....it ain't over yet....
Trapping season is shorter now, but we can still hunt!