🇿🇦 American Couple Reacts "I'm Khoisan, NOT Coloured'" | The Demouchets REACT South Africa
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- 🇿🇦 American Couple Reacts "I'm Khoisan, NOT Coloured'" | The Demouchets REACT South Africa
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"Khoisan" is an early 20th century way of life description created by Schulze: ancient African hunter-gatherers & pastoralist.
There is no singular khoisan group nor was it a historic culture.
There was a label for pastoralists, generically called khoi/khwe.
Seperately there was a label for hunter-gatherers and desert foragers called San.
These are both European academic way of life abstractions, not singular cultures.
Alternatively, it's a linguistic abstract classification, now largely moribund "Latin".
SA natives are their descendants.
*COLOURED,* on the other hand, is an In-Colony population of Asian-Euro-Africans.
Coloured is NOT a singular ethnos/race. It is a label.
Coloured label having been plurality in Western Cape was literally an abnormal function of the 20th century.
Based on massive Cape Colonial immigration, the Asian, mixed & European population in the Cape rose by a massive 50% respectively, between just 1875 & 1891.
The African population in the Western part of the Cape was larger than either white, mixed or Asian in 1875.
Afterwards, its suppression after 1891 in the 20th century was maintained through Native Reserves in the Eastern Cape & vague classification of many Africans as non-Asian Coloureds.
With the breakdown of native reserves, the normalization is likely already complete and as we know African is already the largest label in Cape Town over the last decade, & so is African probably over 40% in the Western Cape as a whole by 2023, with the diffuse Coloured label at similar levels.
Patterson's DNA testing in the Western Cape a few decades ago shows that, other than where the Coloured are European or Asian (mainly from the Dutch East Indies or India), the Cape Coloured are mainly Afrikaans-speaking Xhosas.
The above are the main blend.
Very informative. Did you know that according to the new laws, the Chinese are to be classified White in South Africa?
Just like in Durban, our mixed cousins speak English thanks to apartheid but many know they are descended from Ndlovus and Mkhizes.
When you do your DNA you find that you have a ton of 4th, 5th mixed cousins who have English names and surnames.
@Agrid - Firstly I agree with your statement that "Khoisan" is a misnomer and an attempt to classify two seprate groups of people as one, albeit that Khoikhoi & San Bushman both are Capoid People's in terms of them sharing the same Capoid DNA.
BUT...
That last paragraph quotes a "DNA Study" Decades Ago is debunked by a number of more recent studies.
The fact that it was decades ago is clearly an indication that it was probably rigged to support an intentional narrative of Indigenous Erasure.
Of course Coloured People have aa sizeable component of Xhosa DNA but the majority of the Colured population group who do not clearly have more phenotypically European, or Asian DNA, have a high level of Capoid (Khoi & San) Mitochondrial DNA and of course there is also a mentionabe level of Xhosa (Nguni/Nergroid) DNA among Coloured People.There is no denying that we also come from amaXhosa but it is a false narrative to claim that we are not predominantly from Khoikhoi & San.
However also keep in mind that among amaXhosa there is also a high level of Capoid DNA hence Nelson Mandela also having Khoi-San DNA.
Also to be clear, Nama, Griqua etc. aren't indigenous groups, but COLONIAL culture mixed products.
They moved up north from Tulbagh in the Western Cape (Cape Colony 200 years ago), into Nothern Cape & Namibia, etc.
But they were white skinned, Christian, cattle raiders (which was the Dutch colonial culture), and Dutch language-speakers, with a dash of African blood.
Thank you all for adding to the conversation and helping us understand.
South Africa is so complex and diverse, there is diversity in that diversity, its so nuanced and multi layed, i dont you can get an answer from one "group" that would apply to another, even in the same culture or race.
I love y'all for taking the time to try and understand more about my people's history. We are complicated and we are traumatized. But most importantly we are resilient. No matter what...we keep moving forward.
Khoisan peoples still exists in Cape Time coloured peoples are mixed race
There is no "Khoisan" people Mgwenya, please becareful of that term. There are many different groups historically, who were pastoralist (bebefuyile) and others were foragers (so called San: bebezingela beqokelela ukudla).
"Khoi" is a Khwemana word meaning "person" and Khoe khoena means "Real people" (Abantu abantu or abantu bangempela).
Some of the Khwe peoples are: Nama, !Ora, Gqunukhwebe (found among amaXhosa today), etc.
San is a Nama word meaning "outsider"... These guys include people like the Kloukle people, the |Xham, the Ju|H'uan and many others.
The people are still there, its true, some of them are found among so-called Coloured people and others among amaXhosa, Batswana, and so on. Some of them have some European admixture a bit, but it was not their choice.
@@siyabongamviko8872 hi bantu , you are an invader but yet south african,
The khoi are brown not black.
and i thank you .
Am from Ghana 🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭 I like what u guys are doing
Keep doing what u doing
Will do!
Houtbay in Cape Town has a big Rastafarian community, but is hugely practiced across South Africa.
As coloured in South Africa its very hard . We going through apartheid with our current Leaders and they not showing this to the word
a quick history that even south africans are not willing to accept. KhoiSan were light skinned, short structured, slant eyed people that dominated Southern Africa. Through intergration they are responsible for the clicks eg IsiXhosa, short structure eg BaTswana and generally lighter skin than most Bantu.
Those in Cape Town claiming to be KhoiSan are just coloureds(mixed) whose ancestors were raped by white settlers (who didnt travel with women) and they were preferred because they are naturally lighter than other african bantu tribes. If you want to see the true 100% KhoiSan they are in Botswana and Namibia but they are also mixing with other tribes and assimilated.
DNA tests is the most feared thing in Southern Africa especially ancestry DNA test. In countries like Botswana DNA test was decampaigned after it classified people as KhoiSan and affected even Senior chiefs. Pure KhoiSan hair is one of the toughest Kinky hair you will ever see but you can even see that guy is failing to make rastafarian locks.
Rastafarian its just new religion that spread just like everywhere in the world. Nothing to do with Southern Africa.
@Tuto Tutot I agree with much of what you say, except that if the same Global Standards are applied to assigning a person to be of an Indigenous People based on DNA, for example the percentage used to determine if someone is a Native American or not, then certainly it is highly likely that even with his as you say "failed dreadlocks" that guy could more than likely have enough Capoid DNA to be classified as Khoi-San.
The tough kinky hair (that a few of my relatives have) is just a phenotypical feature that with just a little bit of DNA admixture not show up as strongly as it is not necessarily a Dominant Gene.
The same applies to skin coournot nececssarily being a dominant gene.
DNA Testing can be a good or bad thing depending on what the purpose and intended applcation of the resuls would be.
If it is tied to any legislative purposes it could cause highly contentious problems but if it is only for finding one's personal sense of belonging, particluar for someone who like me has a diversely mixed ancestry, then I would encourage it.
As for those specific groups of Khokhoi people who are tying their culture to Rastafarianism; they are in a minority and should not be seen as speaking for the majority of Khoikhoin who like me are classified as Coloured.
Thank you for sharing.
@@FifthElementLive my point is majority of people in southern africa are KhoiSan if we are going to classify coloureds as KhoiSan. If you visit pure KhoiSan in Botswana and Namibia you will see physical futures that were described in old white people's literature. White people's hair usually dominate black kinky hair anytime they mix with pure blacks.
apartheid legacy is still going to cause havoc if we dont re-write our history. like you I have mixed ancestry and my Xhosa lineage through ancestry chants trace their history to lost KhoiSan tribes. My great grandmother classified herself as Xhosa but she was whiter than most people in the cape and up to today we have long straighter hair than most Bantu like us, clear white ancestry.
Everything is so true cause in Namibia we still have the real Khoisan and you can see them from a far ,short,kingy hard hair,Chinese kind ò eyes,light skinned but not too light like the Basters or colored cause we have Basters in Namibia and coloreds also who have soft ,long hair and light skinned with black hair like Indians
Coloureds are the way they look because they were the first line of defense against the colonizers…not the Bantus, that’s why you were not labeled coloured but black…remove the coloured term and you’ll get the First Nation, descended from the khoekhoe! We fought in the struggle together and I’m disgusted in the lack of support you have for First Nations of South Africa…
The reason as to why they say that being coloured is a culture is because we were all removed from our African, Asian, White contexts and places together. They gave us this identity and we had to take it and start our own culture which has a mixture of all our ethnicities.
I'm reading the book , Coloured , how classification became culture. Written by Tessa and Lynsey Ebony Chutel. A good book to fully understand how the classification process took place. My DNA results, 12 different ancestries.
I love that y’all getting views. The two of you are amazing. Always good vibes
Wow you guys are such a Blessing, i was born and bred here i South Africa but i didn't know about this and im learning from you, Thank you so much
The accent is Cape coloured slang. It's hood speak and you'll hear it all over the Cape Flats.
Yes definitely not jamaican..🇬🇧
@@lazarus5609 why would it be Jamaican when the post clearly is about South Africa. Smdh
@@real8551 point out it isn't.
Yes Creole culture is very similar as the cultural aspect of it kinda mirrors each other. Im Coloured and I visited Nola and a lot of the cultural aspects felt very homely.
Coloured people love saying they are of Khoisan descent and this land belongs to them. Tswana people are of Khoisan descent too. Both Khoisan and Bantu
That don't make sense because coloured from Cape town yes they may claim descendants from Khoisan and Xhosa also. But I am coloured from KZN and my great grandma was Zulu her husband was from Scotland. This coloured term is the white man too divide and conquer us. I am mixed with white but I consider myself black.
Hundreds of thousands of coloured people are direct descendants of the first nation . The Khoi and San and their mixed descendants are all officially classified as coloured . All one people , with a shared common history and struggle . The Bantu people are totally different and have maintained that difference as well .
Not disputing your fact as a kora descendant, we share blood and cultural heritage. Under there umbrella of coloured there's different ethnicities,Cape Malay, Cape Coloured,Camissa,boesman,nama just to name a few sharing lineage with sotho and xhosa and others omitted.
The want the African label without the " blackness" so they rather claim coi because they are bit yellow-ish . The issue with coloured is they hate their blackness too much . They just want a label that they can claim proximity to whiteness. I once sat in a convo where a coloured argued that even the coi are not African and he was saying all nonsense about them being something else than the African we know to be African
They're crazy
much love thanks for reacting to africa
Much love!
This is too strong powerful and Mighty!!!!Aaah,Jah Bless
I am "coloured" My great grandfather was white from Scotland and my great grandma black zulu they were in love and married. I think its time we as South Africans should be who we want to be and not what government will tell us who we are. From my dad side their is indian blood. But i am a African.
You rightly say you are coloured , but then end by saying you're African .
African in the south African context refers to the black Bantu tribes .
@@cecildennis-o9lso what's wrong, south Africa it's not African land?
@@jelezulu4707 NO , it's the land of the Khoi and San , and their descendants . All their descendants are officially classified as coloured . The UN recognised First Nation !
The black Bantu Nguni are all foreign migrant invaders from central Africa .
You are a lost soul bru @@cecildennis-o9l
Ur mixed
Thank you for the truth🙏
Khoisan is a new name that was formed by white settlers in South Africa in 1652.
South Africa had many tribes like:
Xu , Kwe and most of the newly formed Xhosa Nation consists of the so called Khoisan tribes / clans.
Most tribes names pronounciations / phonetics were changed to assist English/European Speaking white people.
The Indigenous tribes/clans to South Africa e.g
Gatsheni
Abathembu
Tshwane
Gcaleka
Rarabe
Mtirara
Xhoseni - Is a Xu and Kwe name ( So called newly *Khoisan * name since 1652).
Cira
Ngwevu
All of these names phonetic have been changed from Indigenous clicks to mordenise them , and most of the Xhosa Clan names are Indigenous to South Africa.
But because of tribal wars now they are mixed with other tribes running from tribal wars and settlers wars.
So the white settlers grouped the clans into one name to form one tribe called Xhosa. But originally they were different clan names.
Similar to Zulu Nation - it was formed by combining different tribes during tribal wars.
It was more a language grouping than a tribal grouping. So Xhosa speaking people came under the Xhosa classification, and Zulu speaking people came under Zulu classification, same for Sotho, same for Venda, same for Ndebele etc. They couldn't draw tribal lines because that is the exclusive domain of indigenous people, whether they liked it or not. It's people who get confused because there is a Xhosa tribe that is under the Xhosa King. And there are other independent Xhosa speaking kingdoms eg Abathembu. But the Zulu nation have one King. We Xhosa's don't do that. The people know who they are and want to preserve their cultural and tribal identity, even if they marry into other tribes. The Ndebele kingdom is literally a splinter tribe of the Zulu and pretty much share language and custom
I need you to sit me down around imbawula sisi 🙌
The term indigenous is continuously misused , it seems many don't understand what it means !
INDIGENOUS : refers to the people who FIRST inhabited a geographical area or country .
The ORIGINAL , EARLIEST ,MOST ANCIENT , the first ....non of the black Bantu Nguni tribes are indigenous to SA .
Their indigenous ancestral homeland is north of the Limpopo river , all the way up into central Africa .
the entire world is originally black , not only up to north africa , the black man is the original man , light skin is recessive and grafted the from the black mans recessive germ. the black man is God, @@cecildennis-o9l
@@cecildennis-o9l Correct!!
Coloured People are mix descendants different cultures the term"coloured " was introduce by the apartheid colonial government to manage the people
Not just to manage but also to ostracize black people and make them the lowest group in society. The closer you were to whiteness in your DNA the less ostracized you were . These racial classifications didn't just control people but they were also used to justify treating blacks in the most abhorrent manner ...almost as sub-humans. It justified spending less on blacks in education , housing , salaries and health care . As a result some desperate black people even decided to classsify as coloured if they could pass as coloured because of their complexion and hair texture . They would be subjected to a pencil test for their hair. If a pencil passed through their hair with ease and they had fair complexion they could pass as coloured but they would have to cut ties with their black families .
Thanks to the hosts of this channel doing research on south africa or atleast cape town (the mother city).
The DA reminds me of the Apartheid era National Party...wait a minute, the DA was a merger of National Party and Democratic Party. The two political parties that implemented and benefited from apartheid government. Sadly, the ANC,EFF,IFP,PA,etc. are all awful. Still the DA is continuing the NP and the DP legacy in the Cape. One love to our first peoples #Khoisan
Don't forget that the National Party or the renamed New National Party merged with the ANC in 2004, and the party federal council dissolved the party on 9th April 2005.
National party was eaten by the Anc
and your point is???
@@maryduplessis2510the DA is a apartheid political party that is nostalgic about how things ran in SA. Nie meer nie!
He reminds me of one South African crane operator I used to know. I believe he's indeed colored, from Cape town or there about.
His accent was exactly like this.
Thank you for amplifying the voice of indiginous South Africa. My people are marginalized.
They're a mixed race not indigenous
This guy is not Khoi.
Khoisan were the earliest inhabitants of sub Saharan Africa. They were here before the bantu arrived and before colonization. Coloureds are mixed race people
Yea but most coloured decend from khoi and san people, otherwise what would you say where are they today? The khoi and san people are brown people
No, the Khoi are 100% African people, so they are black, simply because the have no DNA admixtures outside of Africa.
It would rather make sense to attribute the term "brown people" to coloured folk, e.g, the guy in the video with locks. He is what ix called "brown".
@@christianKing101not most some and some re not...and that's not a crime..and you re not the only descendants of San...Tswana people and Xhosa people also
@@christianKing101and San are black people...not brown...you can go and check on the British old magazine that's called knowledge...San re straight up black people...just because they re light in complexion does nt make them colored and less black...their hair alone tells you that...
@@AFRICANRthanks for this, this whole idea that they are Khoi is wild
Coloured people in Namibia are people with both European and African, especially Khoisan and Bantu ancestry, as well as Indian, Malay, and Malagasy ancestry especially along the coast and areas bordering South Africa. Coloureds have immigrated to Namibia, been born in Namibia or returned to the country. These distinctively different periods of arrivals, from diverse backgrounds and origins have led to a diverse Coloured population. This diversity was even further exploited by South African officials who referred to three distinct groups amongst the coloureds, namely: "Baster", "Cape Coloureds" and "Namibian Coloureds".
But the ones in Namibia mostly are calling themselves Basters and only a few call themselves Coloured
Khoi/San we don't know bt we know NOQHAKANCU. And they were black by light skin.
That's what I know...not the ones with blue and green eyes and straight hair...I love cape Malaysian they know who they re and re not ashamed of that....
Yes rasta... Thats it, our own people needs to recognize this, the division is deep within kullid people not knowing or acknowledging they descendants. We survivors Nd will always be here, we adapt no Matta wat. One luv..... Rise up Africa rise up
Can you elaborate? What do you mean to say about them?
Before we were all black. We all fought the struggle with our african brothers and sisters. My grandmother literally has Xhosa siblings, but because she is mixed she is identified as coloured and was taken away from her family. She had to start over alone
Go study history ...bosman is the first people in South Africa ever and they not black wake up
@@MoegamatFick I do study history...so you're telling me the bushman ,who lives and are indigenous people to africa...with clear black features...are not black. Bushmen are black African people.
@@MoegamatFickoh yes they re black you must go and study....you can go anywhere in the world they will tell you ...they re black not brown but some brown came out of them...and brown is not a race but mixed breed of different races...don't even ve to study about its just simple common sense alone...
i would love to see a video about the native American Indian history please.
Its great to see that someone still knows the original purpose of Rastafarians.
Khoi true bloods hv squinted eyes nd yes they r among coloureds but u cnt miss them u will knw wen u see them descendents
As an horn of African i can tell you Rastafarian is from Africa as the word it's self meaning the head/chief to be feared. Ras tafari mekonen as this was the real name of emperor heile sallasie of Ethiopia
I'm a huge fan of you guy,so glad we as a community spoke up...
Due to the mixture of cultures we as a people came accustomed to just be quiet and let it go.
The broader colored community identify as "Khoi" sad our country doesn't give khoi its rightful place.
When you're a child of a White or black, you are your fathers race.
Many of the top people are very illiterate in SA when it comes to certain issues 😒
A lot of times the answer to the question you seek answers to will be "both are correct"
25:57 I used to think the same, but as the man states, we have been lied to. We are a distinct race, with a distinct experience. A creole melting pot, that exists in such a way that it absorbs any additions. Our ancestors roamed and hunted these lands. Aboriginal ancestral custodians of the land of gold and diamonds. “How is it that people who walk on gold, go to bed starving”. Black people aren’t even really indigenous to here. They were brought in from Angola and further north, as well as through natural migration from the north (if I remember correctly). It’s why majority of the black population in Namibia is focused along the northern border with Angola. The history is just so dense and convoluted, with many wars and battles changing the status quo every few decades.
If anyone wants to understand the Indigeneous South Afriacan peole , you have to remove to Surnames and the newly formed tribe names/ Nations e.g Xhosa, Zulu, Khoisan , Bushmen , Koi, San etc
Resrarch us using our Clan Names, our history is in our Clan Names .
And you will realise before the borders were setup , some clans are related to people in Namibia , Botswana, Lesotho, south Africa, Zimbabwe , Kenya, Tanzania , Swaziland etc
We had no borders , we use to inter marry into different Clans.
We know ourselves but some people / Media / Social Media chose to use the newly formed groups of Nations like Khoisan, Xhosa, Zulu , Bushmen etc that were formed after 1652 .
We know who we are and no new History can change us in Southern Africa.
That's not true, we are not newly formed nations. We are quite aware of our history, and clans and tribes are NB for us. We will not discard that at any government or colonisers insistence. And we are quite selective with which tribes we intermarry with, its not free for all. Bantus are royal bloodlines and we want to preserve our gene pool
There some confusion here .
The term khoisan is two tribes , the KHOI AND SAN .
They are the only indigenous people of SA . All the black Bantu Nguni tribes are migrants from central Africa .
The term indigenous means :
the first , the original , the earliest etc. The Khoi and San are that . The UN affirmed this fact , and granted FIRST NATION STATUS to the Khoi and San under the rights of indigenous people .
The indigenous homeland of the Bantu tribes is north of the Limpopo river up into central Africa .
Hundreds of thousands of so called coloureds are the direct descendants of the khoi and San and qualify ahead of all others as indigenous . They are the true custodians and heirs . The first nation !
@@cecildennis-o9l speak that truth brother!!!!! The world must hear this!!!!
Bro you are identified and categorized as Colored because you are indeed a Colored Xhosas and Zulus are not newly formed nations if you know your history how can you forget your language, just before 1994 y'all were happy and proud to be Colored
@@cecildennis-o9lyou’re lying , and don’t tell us about that shady organization called the UN, if you want to go deep go all the way and speak to how there were no borders and that the so called Khoi are found in other parts of Africa because this is how AFRICANS use to move, you say it like it’s a bad thing if we are to find that we have other mixes of Africa like the Africans we are. You want to claim this Khoi identity so bad as a mixed person when…what about your other mix? Malaysian? Indian? European? Black? “Direct descendants”? Lies, the Xhosa and Batswana people have this ancestry as well but that’s not to say they are Khoi . Our languages, dances , and I’m pretty sure they have clan names, animals and praises to trace ancestry, what’s yours?
Lot to dooooooooooooooo ..Jah Bless
Halelujaaah!!!!!Blesssss
Different representations different areas different slang and lifestyles. It's not that easy to cluster the whole issue into one basket and give it a name or identity
In my culture we call them the "Bakone" /"Khoisan"/ "Bushmen"/"HunterGathers"
According to the 2011 census, 8.9 per cent of the population of South Africa self-identifies as coloured. Many individuals who were identified as ‘coloured’ under apartheid are now self-identifying as San or Khoekhoe. In fact under almost any definition many other South Africans are of ‘mixed race’. The communities designated as coloured are primarily descended from the Khoisan people who originally inhabited the western parts of South Africa, from Asian and African slaves brought to the Cape from the earliest years of the colony, from European settlers, and from other Africans. The long process of mixing and acculturation led to the extinction of several Khoisan languages; most coloured people speak Afrikaans as a first language and most still live in the Western and Northern Cape provinces, where they comprise an overall majority of the population.
Those who align them with the Coloured Tag help the Colonizers with this tag The Coloureds are a minority the Khoi gave them a language & Culture just like the so called Cape Malay The Table mountains real name is Hoerrikwaggo & Cape town is CAMISSA or Huigaeb!
It is good they are picking a language over the title coloured. Hey if the man speaks Xhosa...👍🏾🇿🇦
He will still be Coloured
@@Qotha I'm thinking the coloured did not originally call themselves Colored right? Maybe I'll just leave this alone this is too much confusion
@@chimakalu41 no matter who came up with the term, they are not Bathwa/Khoisan. Coloureds are mixed race whereas Khoisans are pure indigenous African people
@@Qotha ok
@@Qothayes
That one room is something one wishes for homeless Americans who literally live in their cars or under tents on the streets of San Francisco, and in Manhattan in winter, right outside Macy’s over the heat vents to get some warmth.
Its a typical Cape Town Colored Afrikaans 1st language English 2nd Language Ghetto Rastafari accent all of that influences his accent. Apartheid created different accent groups not just based on race location and 1st language but also socio-economic status/groups.
To clarify things..not condoning evictions but these ppl do erect homes on privately owned land sometimes. I also know of ppl who rent out there govt issued houses then erect a shack to live in themselves. So there are 2 sides to every story. Fyi..i identify as Human but i pra tice the Coloured culture.
this was real...
Coloured people are mixed, very diverse. We have coloured people who are Christians, Islam, Rastafarians. So some coloured people come from Asian descent, they might follow that culture. Some come from african descent. That's why some coloureds dont associate themselves with being Black because they're from Asian or white descent. Personally, my maternal grandmother is Xhosa, but my paternal grandfather is Asian. It's very mixed, we all have different physical attributes. We even face racism, by our own race. I have cousins with "white features", but I also have family with African physical attributes
The way I understand 'Coloured' is that it now refers to a community which shares language and some ways of living, but it was an imposed identity on people. Families were separated using a pencil to check how coarse one's hair was. There is some politically charged stuff to be said but not now or here.
Coloured grouped together some Malay people, the aboriginals of the Western Cape especially [so called Khoisan], people of mixed ancestry like the Griqua of Adam Kok, a very small number of "Bantu" (another bad term) who were a bit lighter in complexion and wanted to access associated rights to the identity.
The other reality, which the rastaman spoke about, is that these people are sometimes looked down upon, both in the Coloured families/communities and among "Bantu" communities, but there is no South African without them. That's the truth. Many of us have them as our ancestors.
I'd love your take on the Tyla situation, she's a South African colored singer who's released a great song in the States and now she is being dragged for calling herself colored...when she is a colored South African. But African-Americans are dragging her for using the term.
My great grandma's dad was a white man so my grandma was lightskinned with long hair same my mòm and her siblings and me also and some of my brothers and cousins but we dont consider ourselves as coloured but my grandma toòk her moms tribe who was a black women and so it came down to us the 3 generation and it will keep that
Mix race period its a fact colonial people they know the true what happened in 1652
He smoked the wrong side of the joint to think he is khoisan he should go to the northern cape and see true khoisan
This is true, and they are not even honest about it.
I grew up around coloured people, so I knew a lot of coloured people who would slap you for calling them "Khoi or Bushmen" but all of a sudden, today they are claiming the Khoi ancestry. It's getting weird!
@@alecmonama3907it’s getting disgusting, to a point of them now trying to claim that the “bantu” are originally from central Africa and they are the direct descendants of the origami people of SA, like what? The Khoi are as African as the Bantu, they as coloureds are mixed with Asian and European and African, so how are they now just “khoi”? It’s so annoying and I’ve been calling them out on it . I believe they have long felt like they are the only ones without culture and history and their own language , so much so that this search for identity causes them to cling on tho the group that’s nostalgic revered and also most treated like saints really, so they can have some level of true identity.
WE ARE THE FIRST OR ORIGINAL NATION ON EARTH. THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF SOUTH AFRICA. OUR FOREFATHERS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 25 000 YEARS.
ONLY TRUE BLOODED BUSHMEN ARE INDIGENOUS, THIS RASTAFARI GUY AND THE OLDER GUYS ARE TECHNICALLY MIXED RACE RACE.... YES THEY ARE DESCENDANTS OF BUSHMEN BUT THEY ARE ALSO DESCENDANTS OF GERMAN/DUTCH SETTLERS.
READ GERMAN/DUTCH CHRONICLES ABOUT EUROPEAN SETTLEMENT IN SOUTHERN AFRICA.
I am still traumatised yes most of us lived like them
As a bantu you define your race. It's fine if you associate yourselves with xhosas though your mother and father are a different race. Accept the fact that bantu people are foreigners on the soil of South Africa.
The Coloured people are a mixture of the indigenous Khoe-San First People, enslaved people from India, Indonesia, Madagascar, East Africa(the horn of Africa) and Northern Europeans(English and Dutch). It's like if you took the generational traumas of Black Americans and Native Americans and put it into one people. If you go back far enough on a timeline of Coloured people's lineage, only the Khoe-San FIrst People will remain, thus Coloured people could be considered spiritually to carry the soul of the indigenous Khoe and San people, they are bringers of the light. Also in the South Africa, the "pure" Khoe-San were also classified as Coloured by the Aparteid government, which later just merged with the mixed indigenous Khoe population in the Western Cape also legally labelled as Coloured.
At you’re lying man, coloured people are mixed, where do you get all these things you are saying. Do you know that the Xhosa and Batswana share that ancestry too? But they are not Khoi, that time they are just African like the Khoi are, but here you are with these wild claims, why only claim Khoi when you have all those other mixes?
There’s no “mixed indigenous”, the Khoi are purely indigenous, coloured people are mixed .
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Coloured are mixed with asia Europa and Afrika.
South African black people came from north Africa and also settled here and now claim land.
The second guy looks more Coloured than Khoi to me. Not everyone who was khoi was classified coloured. Some were brought as slaves on the 1600s.
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You see, the term coloured is broad neh. You see, lets go back to the days of apartheid. During apartheid days, there was division of South Africa based on different races. The black people had their own land called Bantustans. The apartheid government didnt consider blacks as true South Africans because they had their Bantustans given to them to separate them from the rest of the South African population. The real South Africans according to the apartheid land act was divided into 8 groups neh: the white people, the Cape coloured, the Cape Malay, the Griqua, the Chinese, the Indian, the other Asian and the other Coloured. The other coloured people included coloured people from the Transvaal (Gauteng, North West, Limpopo, Mpumalanga), Free State and Natal (now KZN). The Cape coloured included people from Western, Eastern and Northern Cape. I kak you not. Google it. South African Identity document had the following racial classifications:
0 - White
1 - Cape Coloured
2 - Malay
3 - Griqua
4 - Chinese
5 - Indian
6 - Other Asian
7 - Other Coloured
You see, the South African ID had 13 digits. The first 6 digits are your date of birth. The next 4 digits are your gender (0000 - 4999 for female and 5000 - 9999 for male) and for differentiating people born on the same day . The 11th number was for citizenship ( 0 for South African citizen and 1 for permanent residence). The 12th number was for race according to the classifications I just mentioned). The 13th number was arithmetic digit.
There was no black people. The black people had Bantustans within South Africa. The Bantustans were like countries with their own laws but still regulated by the South African government.
Now you see, coloured people have mixed up a lot. There's no longer terms like cape coloured and other coloured. There's just the coloured people now. The issue of who is khoisan and who's not is a big issue. My grand mother is a cape coloured and my grand father was a Natal coloured. I can claim Khoisan ancestry through my grandmother but not sure about my grandfather because coloured people in KZN are mostly a mixture of Europeans-Indians-Africans. Most Cape Coloureds have Khoisan ancestry in them. I hope this is helpful to you.
You are yet again trying to delete blacks from the history of SA as it was done during apartheid. If you say Bantustans were not part of SA do you understand how wrong you are ? You are effectively justifying what settlers did to blacks. They came into our land , relegated us to the most barren parts of our land and called those Bantustans. They then limited our movement out of those Bantustans saying it is no longer our land . They controlled chiefs and Kings in the Bantustans and forced them to keep their people in those territories . Chiefs who rebelled against this new regime were killed and they were replaced by chiefs chosen by the settlers. Of course they chose chiefs who would be their puppets and keep blacks oppressed and trapped in Bantustans. These Bantustans had no sovereignty. Everything happening within the territories were authorised by the government of South Africa. When the gold rush began the settlers needed strong men for hard labour in the mines and guess who they truned to ? The blacks in the Bantustans. Suddenly blacks were part of their RSA again. Eventually they created the dompas system to control the movement of the black labour that they themselves forced to leave the Bantustans . Hence they accommodated these men in hostels which still exist today. Not allowing them to bring their wives and children and keeping them in crowded and very inhumane conditions like slave labour. Eventually more blacks moved to Jhb and townships like Sophiatown and later Alexandra and Soweto were developed as well as other in other parts of Jhb. When we gained our freedom we did away with Batustans or TBV states (i.e. Transkei, Bophuthatswana and Venda). Leaders of these TBV states or Bantustans were removed by bloody coupes because they were seen as apartheid puppets allowing settlers to relegate blacks to pockets of the country as if they are prisons for blacks in order to justify stealing our ancestral land which our ancestors roamed for thousands of years as proven by anthorpologists and scientists in evidence from Mapungubwe and The Cradle of Mankind.
Khoisan peoples still exists in Capetime and coloured peoples are mixed race when British come South Africa they take Khoisan women
Its true
Please React to "I became KHOISAN...the first human on Earth "
The first human on earth was Adam (Genesis 1 verse 1) the 2nd person on earth was Eva Genesis, the 3rd and 4th people on earth was Cain and Abel read the whole book of Genesis for better understanding.. Thank you
@@pleasurehlungwani9868 why correct the person when they were not stating anything?
Nonsense
I SAW YOU GUYZ IN A TIKTOK VIDEO INVOLVING THE ONLINE WAR BTW USA AND KENYA 😅
What tik tok? Send the link.
@@TheDemouchetsREACT I didn't get to save the video but the description was . WHEN AMERICANS REACT TO THE MATATUS OF KENYA
Thank you. Btw we do not participate in diaspora wars.
@@TheDemouchetsREACT I know,but it seems like someone was using your video to participate in the war .
We appreciate you looking out for us, fam!
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May his soul rest in peace .
The painful reality.
He is right myself I don't like to be called coloured, we are khoi/khwe
You are mixed so how are you Khoi? What about your other mixes?
He looks like J Cole
This is the main reason why you will find highly fenced suburbs with electric wires to protect the riches they accumulated wrongly with other people's lives
The term coloured was institutionalized in 1950. All people of mixed race was catogorised as such. Indiginous khoi and San were also assimilated as such. In 1991 the term coloured was abolished. The indiginous people are rising and need to self identify as being indiginous.
The troops are community based
🤣🤣🤣This is what it is brothers I am happy that you see how these poor coloured claims to indegenous but they were not exist before the European settlers arrived
Khoisan are the 1st indigenous ppl of SA, when the Europeans and Asian slaves come inter racial relationships happened, rape happened and a whole new ppl was born ..We still the descendants of the 1st Nation khoisan ...Kallit are a culture, a vibe, a diversity like none we have different nuances in skin color, different hair tactures, most of us use the c word or identify with it due to the indoctrination or some use it as empowerment ..just like the N word ..it's taken the negative and turn it on their head ...
I am coloured myself a descended of slaves. The problem is the coloureds who have more San hunter gathers slave DNA do not identify as coloureds and that is heart 💔 broken fore us other coloureds. The Zulus ; Xhozas ; Sothos ;Vendas ; Tswana and other bantus ore Nguni people in South africa are not slaves ; as the Dutch said the bantus arived 1700 after we coloureds had arived 1480 whith Portuguese ; but British and Dutch took over the year 1500 and 1652 more slaves arived ; and 1838 we coloureds recieve our freedom ; but the British brought Indian slaves to Durban the year 1860 to 1910 . If you want to know more of our history visit the Capetown Slave Lodge and Cape Castle of Good Hope that is wear or history is.
If I may ask are you African Americans???
If so which Africa countries y'all from
Yes, African American. We haven’t gotten that far in our research yet.
@@TheDemouchetsREACT Okay
From Ghana born and raised 🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭
Khoisan aka coloured people is South Africa's aboriginal people, they are the true owners of the land
There's only about 100,000 true Khoisan left, they were once the most populated group. Khoisan were killed by Bantu tribes moving down from the North and then later from Europeans.
LoL the Bantu never killed any hunter gatherers, in fact, historically these people co-existed and even intermarried, so I do not know where you get that history from because it doesn't even exist .
The genocide that you speak of was done by the European settlers who even hunted and killed them like for sport just so to wipe them out. These are historical facts that were archived by the same Europeans, not assumptions.
@@alecmonama3907true.. We don't have any big evidence for genocide started by bantu, we dont have any archeological finding that suggest a "mass genocide" by bantu. Smaller incidents seems to be plausible since that also happens within a group...
@@Francfort069gross lies
You will lies to your friends at the brash, you like projection of your vile history on us . There’s nothing you can do, we are African .
Khoisan other name is BUSHMAN
There is Khoi khoi and San people, Khoi Khoi were cattle keepers and Sans were hunters.
Nothing called Khoisan..there are the Khoi and the San.
@@mambamzwandile202 The Khoi and the San look alike and both speak click languages. The only difference is the mode of production. The San were hunter gatherers, the Khoi sheep herders
i thought coloreds ,Basters were a mixture of an Indian and a white person or a white person and a black person cause you get those coloreds that look like Indians with black hair
Africa cry Blood
Khoi/colored people are not black, we’re aboriginal.
1st, How are coloureds an aboriginal when their ancestry is of South East Asian and mixed with other groups? It makes no sense.
Secondly, coloured people and the so called "Khoi" are not the same people. Khoi people are African people with no admixtures and they have their own languages and culture. Where is the coloured people have their own way of life/culture which is obviously not related to the Khoi.
@@alecmonama3907EXACTLY WHAT I’ve been asking, it’s getting ridiculous the lies these people are telling. On top of it, they are somehow mad and have this weird energy for the so called Bantu and claim that we are not SA originally but they are the direct descendants of the original inhabitants of SA so they are “ahead of everyone in this land claim”, as if the Black people are not as purely African as the Khoi people, similar culture, our own languages etc, it’s wild.
He is mixed, probably white father or grandfather
Exactly
This Guy is a Decendant of Khoi , slavery was in Cape town and the dutch were intermixing with the khoi and the Xhosa. Today people in South Africa just say you coloured as if you have no heritage or culture
One wonders why humans are like this, so easily directed by the search of wealth and selfishness to the detriment of our fellow man.
The name coloured the white man gave us in the 1950 to take our land Before 1950 we where Khoi and San that means boesman ,before here where white and black people here was only brown people khoi and San in the hole Southern Africa
You were never Khoi, the Khoi are not Mixed.
Much respect to the beautiful people of SA, but this guy is smoking to much weed and as a result is getting massively on my nerves..
His not Khoisan
Khoisan are the fist human on this planet the blacks are origins everywhere on this planet we do fortunate to be that I heard you Thandiwe the other day you mentioned a bushman them are Khoisan spiritually you were entering where you originated I am proud of you I love you both ❤
Thembi
Most coloured people are only recently discovering their lineage .
There are hundreds of thousands of coloureds who are direct descendants of the KHOI AND SAN .
The term khoisan is actually incorrect . The khoi and San are two different tribes , but both solely indigenous to SA . The black Bantu Nguni tribes migrated south from central Africa , and are not indigenous at all . They are actually all migrant invaders , settlers , comparable to the white European settlers .
The UN affirmed these truths under the rights of indigenous people , further granting them custodian rights as the
FIRST NATION .
The coloured people are thus more legitimate as first nation than any invader settler .
You mentioned Nguni tribes, would you care to explain where the Sotho/Tswana tribes originate?
@@cecildennis-o9l Noted!
@@Dez20022 apologies , no idea .
This guy doesnt look anything like a Khoisan in Southern Africa we all know how a Khoisan look like ,this one is coloured,even his hair Khoisan hair is hard and diveded and his colour is different ,
This is so amazing, most South Africans don’t even know about this
A lot of coloured people suffer from an identity crisis. Because of western culture and influence. It’s really sad and now some of us are reduced to having to take DNA tests to find out about our heritage because our ancestors are not alive to tell us.
Coloreds and Basters only speak Afrikaans as their mother tongue especially the ones who call themselves
I am Cape Coloured but didnt understand the truth of being Cape Coloured until I had access to ancestry genome testing in Canada. There is no truer word for my ancestry than Coloured. My ancestry genome looks like a rainbow vomitted.
We’re glad you were able to begin the journey of understanding!
But what does that mean in simple terms? I'm trying to understand if you don't mind.
@@sunelelujabe8075 Do you mean the "rainbow vomit" reference? It's difficult to explain with out an image. I am extremely multi-ethnic. Without getting too nitty gritty, I am 37 percent mixed European (including a trace amount of Ashkenazi Jewish which is my paternal ancestry line), 21 percent mixed South Asian, 20.6 percent mixed Sub-Saharan African, 18.2 percent mixed East Asian and Native American (likely trace amounts through the East Asian ancestor), my maternal ancestry line is SouthEast Asian, 1.4 percent Melanesian, and 0.3 Western Asian & North African. I am a descendent of the rich tumultuous history of Cape Town, South Africa. A picture of my genome ancestry from 23andme, looks like someone took a rainbow and cut it into Tetris squares and jumbled them all around into 23 chromosomes. It looks very colourful. Hence, fitting as I am Coloured born. I had no clue how epic my ancestry was until I got my genome tested. It's really not a simple answer.
Most South Africans including white Afrikaners have some Khoisan ancestry.
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Huh?!
The lies you people tell .You will forever be a European
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Afrikaans is combination of all languages Dutch Malaysia English everything brocken Dutch like piggen English
is there a reason you did not atleast say plus african languages
No, African language there... it's a Dutch dialect more than anything.. Germans and Dutch understand the language
@polymath_sa9745 there is some African words in Afrikaans
@@Kirsten567 like what exactly?????
@@Kirsten567 what words are those?? I'll be patiently waiting
Descendants of mongolic/turkic and slavic people are mixed race... They dont claim to be indigenous like the mongols are (watch siberia/russian mixed people) ... So why are coloureds (griqua) in SA claiming they are indigenous when obviously european admixture is in them... you are indigenous by blood and lifestyle.... If there is any genetic trace to something outside of Southern africa they are not indigenous... They are descendants of indigenous and settlers...
Exactly this
We aren't of European descent. Kom poes praatie. We are natives. Originals
@@fadielbenjamin159 uh no, you are mixed, natives? Stretch, you are of European and Asian and African descent, but you’re not the Khoi as you now like to claim. Them are Africans with no mix, like the Bantu.
I am of busman decent and Malaysian decent , I am a proud busman ,My culture is coloured and I am from the cape flats proudly ❤️
there's no pure khoi blood exist in SA ,you will only find khois in Namibia and Botswana
Go to the northern cape there's plenty
Yes there are dude, I've met plenty. You've just never explored the country enough😂😂
Yes there are pure Batwa in Northern Cape but this guy is Coloured
They are in Northern Cape
Yes, and in Zimbabwe too.