IMO Magni blew up because people realized who his past life was. If morbing had never happened, his fans would have found some other meme to latch on to.
@@CSDragon True that people would have found out who he is, but the *initial* hype that convinced ppl to even give him a chance was sparked by the morbius meme, so atleast on this timeline, we may appreciate how Magging saved holotempus
Vesper's debut is worth paying attention to if you have interest in Vtubing, particularly if you want to get your audience to like you pretty much out the gate. Ame praised Cover for their talent recruitment when the boys debuted, and she's so right. If I remember right, she tweeted this while Vesper was debuting in particular. He was the HoloStar I was the least bit interested in and had the least expectation in liking, just based off what little we saw from his Twitter and his lore/design. What I expected from Vesper was a lore-heavy try-hard. What I got was a humble guy who has a palpable passion and knowledge of Vtubing, nerd culture, and things in general. Vesper also has a degenerate side that slips out on occasion, showing he's down to clown with the other boys. He acknowledged he came from humble beginnings, and Cover took a risk with him, not recognizing his own potential as a zatsudan master who could keep me interested in listening to paint dry. His story of keeping in mind that fun days will come again (the plastic ball story) is incredibly relatable. I feel like I knew at debut what kind of person he was, and what kind of entertainer, and it just made me want to join him for the ride.
His debut really come alive with that plastic ball story. I'm sure he just added the bit as a time filler, but little did he know that it's an accidental hit. It's just makes him wholesome and relatable. I was watching the hololive watchalong of his debut, and I had to run to his channel straightaway to sub.
I followed Vespers previous life, I wasn't a regular viewer but tried to keep up to date. He did pretty good for an indie, and has definitely experienced the struggle with all of its lows and highs. When the criticism started to come in, I could see him giving advice to the team on how to turn it into something positive, and fuel a desire to prove them wrong.
right? I've NEVER felt so invested watching a vtuber debut before. Literally didn't want it to end. The man is a natural storyteller, and genuinely fits the role of being a scholar (doesn't feel like its lore he's pretending to care about because it's his job, he genuinely acts like a scholar).
Knew him from his previous life/avatar. He's a dude who started small, did the grind and made it. Now he gets to enjoy the fruits of his labour and I'm glad more and more people are discovering him and appreciate him.
In all HoloEN audition, there is always at least one less-known person and usually this person will lead the others. Personally, I think Altare came from even humbler beginnings because he is more less known than Vesper but overall I am happy that this formula stays in Hololive audition.
Magni really handled that meme like an absolute professional, the push and pulling were done just right so it wouldn't die on a sour note. Funny how it also clashed with his original plans to make his debut content as boring as possible to nurture a fanbase that grew from just his personality. edit: one of the things i like the most about holotempus's designs and art is that it actually suits their voice and personality. Tempus not finding instant success like Myth will also make for a much more memorable starting patch and a much more satisfying result for every achievement. Tempus and their fanbase will grow together through various hardships, just like the JP Holostars, which is what made the JPstars so special to their fans.
one thing about magni is that the simplest way to "fix" him is to just not look forward a lot during streams. and that rarely happens. Nobody cares about his base art shenanigans now.
@Kirara Still a pretty good number when you consider the fact that they are Holostars. If you have watched the video, you'll know the hardships Stars went through. The biggest Holostars member right now is Roberu with his 260k+ subs, that took him 3 years to get there. The fact that Tempus managed to get 100k subs this fast is already enough to call them success
I'll admit I had low expectations for Tempus going into it, but they've really grown on me. They're a bunch of bros, and it's fun to watch them interact with other members of Hololive.
I was worried that, as I'd not really had interest in HolostarsJP, that I might've just been biased toward the girls, which I felt bad about because I wanted to support the guys; I'd want the support if I were in their shoes, after all, so it'd be a bit hypocritical of me otherwise. I'm glad that it just turned out to be the language barrier, I love the Tempus boys just as much as the rest of EN if not more so in some ways.
I think what's interesting about Magni's design is that he's almost never looking straight ahead while he's streaming. He's always turned a little bit and suddenly you can see the bridge of his nose and it doesn't look weird anymore. So, for some reason, all the promotional art that showed him straight on literally chose his worst angle to try to promote him.
yeah, that's the best way to solve his problem, and didn't cost him a thing. shrugging off an "issue" people throw off at you is generally a safe and sometimes best answer.
Another amazing about his design is his glove cloak. It gives him so much asset potential to play around with, and he damn well knows. So he commissioned an artist to make glove assets for him to use on stream and even animated himself what might be the greatest starting intro in Holopro. Also with his drawing prowess, he can take his design to whole other levels, which can be seen with his Sonic OC and his unofficial mascot that even rivals the adorableness of Takodachis, the Magmite!
When Holostars EN was announced i was so fucking hyped, but also afraid that they would not get attention. Fortunately, things went pretty well, people quickly forgot about their design and stayed for who they are, 4 insanely talented entertainers. The future looks bright.
I felt similar but still would watch them anyways or at least have the their streams in the background muted to add to small numbers. Now I don’t have to worry about that since they’re genuinely entertaining.
@@akira8393 Tbf... Gura already proved that xD Her rigging is still kinda scuffed to this day, but she's just genuinely entertaining, people don't care, it's the exact same here. Yeah, a good model can pull in initial numbers, but those numbers won't stay around if you suck.
They met everything I wanted from a StarsEn. They're absolute bros, memelords, mix great together, and great entertainers overall. They don't crutch on certain "clippable" moments like being absolute degenerates, their genuity is what made me become a fan of theirs.
@@reggielacey2235 of course there's always people like you who love mentioning and bringing down other agencies/vtubers. Mate, just enjoy what you enjoy. You can be a fan of something without bringing the other sides down.
I was there. I was there when the Magging began. It was reminiscent of the golden days of /a/ where everyone genuinely had fun. Magposting was a change of pace from the honestly stale dramabaiting in /vt/ and we spammed the board like there was no tomorrow. Imagine our surprise when our grassroots shitposting would spread to twitter, and to Yagoo himself of all people. It was honestly a historical moment in /vt/ second only to /ringo/.
I was lurking when the bois started their debut just to see /vt/'s reaction. And the complete 180 of them actively memeing to then unironically liking the bois made me laugh, the sudden shift of "HomoStars will steal our chubas" to "Ive watch more of the bois that the girls this week" is astounding.
4:44 Cover did NOT launch holostars EN because of luxiem. I am surprised this misconception still persists to this day. In general Holopro just debuts batches of vtubers at a slower pace than nijisanji. They made a deliberate decision to focus on supporting their existing talents instead of churning out new talents nonstop. auditions for male talents even in english has ALWAYS been ongoing however Cover opted to put stars EN on the back burner for the entirety of 2021 because they focused on Holostars JP heavily. They gave them a lot of projects including all member 3D, culminating with the concert at the end of the year, and then Uproar, and only after could the staff focus on Holotempus. I think people are forgetting that holopro EN doesnt have that big of a staff, everyone’s busy all the time. the sooner people realize that the two companies just have different paces and philosophy when it comes to talents, the more peace we get and personally, HoloPro’s decision to focus on stars JP is a move that i will always respect to the highest degree. Any other company and these boys wouldve probably just been cast aside to rot until the members graduated, but cover standing by talents even when they’re not considered big and profitable is really impressive and frankly isn’t something you’d typically expect in the corporate sphere. i cant believe im out here praising big corpos but honestly if casuals just stopped generalizing things they’d see that the situation is way more nuanced
I agree, they were already accepting males during the audition for 2nd gen holoEN and that was way before luxiem debuted but maybe just got sidetracked.
Same for me, i normally have to be in the "mood" or has to be a game/activity that interests me to watch a holo stream. Now I pretty much watch Vesper whenever he's live.
TEMPUS and Holostars in general are basically male vtubers with less swearing, less sexual jokes, and more controlled tweets. I am way more happy to have those kind of friends. I'm glad that TEMPUS matched my expectation and I wish them all the best for their idol journey. Hololive audition team never disappoint.
@@AGuyNamedRex also the fact that Vesties wasn't even on his radar for names but when he seen it he instantly wanted to ask management if it was ok to use.
One of the interesting parts is watching some people learn that, yes, JP Stars in fact have just been a bunch of bros hanging out this whole fucking time.
I do feel it's a little unfair to portray Holostars as a failure. Four stars are above 200k subs, every member except the new uproar boys is above 100k. By hololive standards, that's low. But in the larger vtuber sphere, Shien, Roberu and Astel are some of the biggest male vtubers in the world. And they did it without automatically getting subs off of successful senpai. That deserves respect.
I feel this too. Holostars JP is a success, it just couldn't feed off the astronomical success of Hololive due to the disinterest of its fanbase. They have a very similar bro feel to Tempus's, they're just fighting a more uphill battle than them since both outsiders and the Hololive community actually gave Tempus a chance from the beginning Also, heck yeah 2nd Act Live. So excited for their concert in October
they had a bit of an uphill battle though it did help when more and more western fans started to learn of their existence and give them a boost (youtubing in general has a 'snowball effect' I notice, once you get the ball rolling, thats when success starts to arise)... and while 100k-200k seems pretty small in comparison to the girls numbers, that's still quite high in the general Vtuber sphere as a whole... the boys always tend to do pretty well in collaborations with fellow Vtubers and voice actors/celebs too, and it helps that they've had very little drama overall too bar a pretty rough beginning due to idol stans.
Depressed nousagi when it comes to Hololive, he researched it greatly but when it comes to others especially males kinda shallow especially the JP side. Let's just leave some info about their successes that they don't usually know for now
Yeah, comparatively, they are doing well for what was essentially a super niche streaming genre. Its a success, sub wise and live viewer count wise. They already vastly outstrip most other v-tubers and streamers in general. But, like with most people, you always wish more for them.
when they got introduced, i admit vesper design is kinda off to me. however when they debut out of all the boys vesper the one that attract me more. the way he speak during debut make me forgot it almost an hour and he still not finish introducing himself. his zatsudan always like that. you never know an hour have already past. his boomer meme is funny. same as the other, when they collab together, it just feel bros being bros. they joke and teasing each other. it really surpassing everyone expectation.
Because Vesper was always a hard worker, even in his "past life". So, once we saw that he "made it" into cover, we were very happy for him, even though he doesn't game that much.
Tempus never had that ackward phase of them just getting to know one another, they just seemed friends from the start. I guess because they made an effort to hang out a lot prior to debuts. They also seemed to work as a team with a goal to boost one another. Contrast with Council who all seemed very ackward and unsure of one another for awhile. It's a bit better now, but I never get the vibe they are close friends. Just work assiociates.
Vesper is so incredibly articulate and passionate about nearly everything that he talks about (also, really wise) that he makes you forget time. Dude is honestly such a natural streamer.
So, at first I thought the designs for Magni and Vesper were kind of weird, but once they started actually using the models and embuing them with their personalities, I completely changed my mind. In fact, now I'm glad that the designs are the way they are, rather than more generic style bishonen guys; it sets them apart. Vesper is laser targetted to my experience as a 30 year old who's been online since he was 13, and he's super fun and wholesome to boot. Magni's shitposting is amazing. Regis' soft spoken sadism and occasional full blown malding is hilarious. Honestly, the one who I think hasn't quite found his niche yet (at least for me) is Axel, which is weird, because I thought I'd like him the most since his debut stream since he's another Aussie like I am. I guess if I was more interested in the music side of things I'd be more into him, though, his singing is very good. Incidentally, the collabs that the Tempus boys have had with the girls are all great. Vesper and Magni's respective collabs with Calli were both gold, and the collab they did together with Ollie in APEX was also amazing. 10/10 would recommend holostars TEMPUS to my friends.
Agreed, I really feel like Magni, Regis, and Vesper really found their footing. While Axel kind of feels like he hasn't really found his. I was super hyped for his introduction, especially since his design was my favorite, but I find myself watching the other three more. I can tell he is still nervous and a bit too anxious compared to other three who seemed to have shaken off their nerves already.
Axel is surprisingly good at zatsudan and interacting with chat. His superchat thanking streams are really good. Plus, I feel like he works best when he has someone to bounce off of, so collabs with him are always fun. He's not a bad shot caller in Apex, either. I'm curious to see more of his content, but chatting, Apex, karaoke, and collabing might end up being his bread and butter. Plus, he's the only fluent JP speaker and thus the only one who can easily collab with his senpai
That Apex stream had me in physical pain from laughter it was so good. Funniest stream I have seen of anything for a very long time. I think Axel stumbled a bit at the start trying to be a bit too chaotic, like his first Hitman stream was very... uh... painful to watch. The others have been better and better, but I think that first bit cost him some growth. His APEX and Zatsu streams are on point though, and his Karaoke stream was really good too (that boy can SING). I think he'd shine in more FPS games, especially if he could get his audience involved I think. But if he could get APEX with the boys or Ollie locked in more... yeah. Or RUST... I think he'd be down right lethal at that.
@@shinkicker404 Agreed, watching his Escape Simulator was really torture and kind of made me shy away from watching him, especially since I find myself watching the other bois instead. Might catch up on his past streams when I get the chance.
There's one thing that isn't mentionned in the causes of the "failing" of males VTubers : the state of the streaming industry. The biggest streamers are males gamers and there's a plethora of them, but on the female side of streaming the biggest ones are what I consider soft core p*** streamers. The success of female VStreamers can be explained by this lack of female classical streamers. There was way less competition for female content creation on the whole market which helped their growth. The males VTubers are just not filling as big a demand. If you want to watch a woman play games while conversing and not see a chat full of sexual harassment, there's not much choice than a VTuber. But if you're looking for a man doing the same thing, you have so much choices that VTubers won't even enter your scope of research. That's why male VTubing is not reaching the same numbers.
on the other hand, it also meant that the market for a regular male streamer/youtuber is already mature and ripe for pirating/stealing views. It is also one of the strong factors as to why tempus is experiencing their slow-start-but-stable-and-steady growth currently. they got a very big market that's well defined, and magni being a veteran in the virality scene really helped a lot.
So basically it’s really hard to become an successful female streamer without doing “bathtub” streams, so vtubing is a route for women who don’t wanna do that. Meanwhile, males aren’t expected to cater to that same horny audience, so the only reason they have to join vtubers is 1. Privacy, 2. Weeb.
I trusted our Shachou to give us quality when HolostarsEN was announced. Memes aside, Yagoo has a genuine understanding of what people like about Cover's VTubers, but he also likes to surprise people with what they didn't know they wanted. Each talent, each event, each idea... They are calculated yet risky moves, and most times, it pays off.
I'm hooked on Grandpa Vespy with his tech tips and zatsudans. His choices of niche game genres are very entertaining since he's so experienced with them. I feel closer to him with the memes of his generation.
Magni Dezmond is a natural being able to branch out of his design with his charm and entertainment value. Also the release of the his character sheet by his artist really gave a big FU to the people dissing Dezmond's character design by making the people see how complicated he was under the hood.
Altare with his gap Moe. From being the Party Leader of Tempus to being the Demon God himself and his more of a cultist fanbase who are willing to be sacrificed.
I haven't been able to watch a live of Axel on his own. But I've seen him and the rest of Tempus playing Apex and it's been a fun vibe during that time.
Vesper is doing the Lord's work bringing ancient memes and finicky, 'tism-friendly games to the table. Plus he's just so jovial and thoughtful, and just... Earnest. That's the best word I can think of. Such a bro, love to see someone in my own age group (700) do so well.
I absolutely agree that Tempus is one of best wave debut. Magni debut makes me laugh so hard & Vesper 10 minute story of plastic wrap is enough proof for me that they will be well received by fans. Their average peak viewers numbers for the last 9 streams also quite impressive. Especially, if we use NijiEN (aside Luxiem) as comparission: - Altare: ~2.3k - Magni: ~5.5k - Axel: ~3.4k - Vesper: ~6k I hope the best for the EN guys x)
Before watching, my pure two cents: 1. Magni getting memed to hell probably helped to get people to care. 2. Vesper's Debut with the endearing and relatable plastic ball story. And of course they all have their talents and niches. Altare's smooth radio voice and gaming skills, Vesper appealing to older audiences and zatsudan, Magni as an artist and creative, and Axel with singing and gaming skills. Plus their great synergy as such a diverse cast. What really made them for me were the collabed with the girls though. The various collabs with Vesper, Magni, Kronii, Bae and Calli have been some of the funniest ever. I'll never forget Time Smut...
@@DinnerForkTongue Dude, the GUN RPG collab is by far my favorite collab. The fact that they started out with two dollars and somehow ended up poorer is funny as hell. Dez and Ves is by far my favorites out of all of holostars
That Internet Historian intro lol I'm glad the boys succeed!! They're so funny and relatable afterall. Their homies aura are so strong xD Respect for the boys to take the hate like a champ and go along with it! Thank you YAGOO for supporting the boys so much 😭😭 YAGOO : *"All according to keikaku"* He must be really proud of the boys, they finally can fulfill his idol drea- oh wait 🤣 6:46 Lmao Suipiss again
I have a feeling that TEMPUS found a relatively untapped section of the EN vtuber market, which is the comfy brotuber kinda vibe. They don't target the large fujo fanbase, instead they are inviting to both male and female audience somewhat equally. They give off the feeling that they are just here to mess around and have fun, and are not trying hard to get massive views and make as much money as possible. It also helps that they feel really genuine on their streams, a breath of fresh air amongst the competitive vibe in the recent vtubing scene.
Agree, I'm female but I enjoy bros moment much more than fujobaits, I was very excited for Luxi*m back then but after some streams I can see where their fanbase heading so I'm not much into it anymore (still like the talents, but I'm scared of the fans XD), seeing Tempus and their fanbase made me happy haha.
It's maggin time! Before Tempus I was mainly watching Luxiem but I came a across a clip of Magni's debut and I was instantly hooked. I love Tempus brotuber vibes. Can't wait for their podcast!
I came from Luxiem and i decided to give Tempus a chance because their announcement gave me the same vibe as Luxiem somehow. After watching them, i love these boys as much as Luxiem! I really am happy for Luxiem opening people's eyes about giving vtuber males a chance and Tempus giving people a chance to love male talents more
Tempus really do be bringing new fans from different parts of the Vtuber world. I mostly watch HoloJP (mainly HoloX) and Niji’s Ex-Gamers (also the rest of the main branch to a certain extent), but Tempus has such great chemistry that they might be the first EN vtubers i will follow.
Iluna had a huge boom at the start compared to tempus but I find myself watching tempus more consistently nowadays. I still love both groups but iluna definitely needs more time to find their footing
Yeah they still yet to integrate themselves well into the rest of NijiEN. But on the other hand I think it's interesting to see how "different" they can be. ILuna has mixed criticisms which is they are either riding too much with the rest of NijiEN with their chaotic dynamic or they are too different and hasn't integrated well into the NijiEN community. Each member seem to have their own strengths and are unique enough to have their own fanbase but not to the degree of a well formed unit like the previous NijiEN waves. Being a mixed gender wave also probably faces a challenge since they have to consider boundaries and how well they can mesh with each other. I'm thankful that NijiEN finally debut a mixed wave to further blur the lines of the male and female interaction within the corpo Vtuber scene but it's not to say old mindsets and trends die hard. Maybe they'd be more comprehensive and popular if they were a girls only or a boys only group. But I guess it's just one of the challenges you have to face in the Industry and as well as for Nijisanji.
@@horiy5020 if they separate only the male side will get the clout...especially female vtubers are not the strongest thing in Niji...Im actually surprised Ren Zotto with high subs and views have a very loew superchat..my theory is Ren past life and his current IRL relationship probably the reason fujo-gachikois not giving him financial support...
@@horiy5020 I think both criticisms are exaggerated, if I was an hardcore Iluna fan I wouldn’t be worried. Both Tempus and ILUNA are just finding their footing, they are all still gonna grow into their streaming personalities. If anything what stands out to me the most is that Magni, Vesper and even Altare a little a bit, immediately settled into their new homes and already started showing exactly what kind of streamers they wanted to be. Dunno it it’s because of experience but this is rare. If you compare to this Lazulight for example, I remember watching Pomu’s first stream and I was bit underwhelmed. But a year later, that OL quit her job doing Minecraft and she’s one of the most creative vtubers I follow right now. I think ILUNA was one of the first generation which simped for their EN senpais and maybe they were a little eager to join the NijiEN family but I’m sure they will be in a totally different position in 6 months.
what I like from Tempus is they actually like a bro, like actual person I can befriend, they talk normally and not whisper to my ears, so I can hear them talking in the background while I doing my job. most male Vtuber I came across is targeting at female audience. they like the Trashtaste of Hololive...
Holostars was... A miracle gift from the vtuber heaven. Like if It wasn't for Pikamee's winning son collab, and Ollie Astel collab, I would have become a gachi koi, or just a fan. But nope, Holostars made me a HoloPro fan and support all of the holopro members for as long as I can. Thank you, Yagoo-sama 🙏. You are truly our best girl...
As a long time holostars JP fan I guess I was more worried than excited about a future holostars EN, I've followed them for years now and watched them fight and grow to the point they are today and I knew that the EN branch would automatically succeed because they can reach a wider audience due to less of a language barrier. But my worries were drowned when they debuted because they show so much respect for their holostars senpai and even to this day they are constantly reminding fans that their success isn't mainly because of themselves its their senpai, when fans say "thank you for finally bringing holostars to the west" they remind people that the senpai did before them. I think what was most fucked up is all the fans who hated on them and their design but now a lot of those fans love them.... very two faced lul
/VT/ actually doing something good for once is definitely a certified, *Top 10 Anime Twist Of All Time* Moment lmao Also, personally I believe the reason why iluna hasn’t found their core fanbase yet is because they’re over reliant/living under the shadows of their predecessors. Unlike Holopro and their ‘1 month collab ban’, NijiEN has no such restriction and therefore are immediately jumping at the chance to collab with their seniors. On one hand, they’ll gain exposure from an already established fanbase. On the other hand, it’ll hamper the growth of their core fanbase since those people would merely be ‘tourist’ rather than exclusively there for them.
I don't watch iluna, but I do see their ccv while I watch other stream on my right hand recommended bar. They have very low numbers, but high view counts. I'm especially worried for scarle since she rarely beat the 3 digit mark. But I think something happened last week, and now she has 4 digits on average, and her supas are suddenly very high, one of the highest if not the highest on their gen. I think it's partly due to her finding more interesting things and doing more hand streams, but I do like seeing people succeed more.
Yeah the thing about ILUNA is that despite them having more subs, their viewership are inferior to Tempus. Ofc, that's just because Tempus managed to create a very loyal fanbase with their collab restriction, also the boys are really insanely entertaining.
As a luxiem fan and a casual watcher of myth, when I heard about Tempus I was really curious and decided to keep tabs on their reveal last month. When their designs came out, I genuinely liked them. The designs were very unique and their isekai trope might be common but very easy to follow. When they started tweeting especially Ves, I instantly knew they were going to be my faves. Since then, I would check about their tweets and have a few giggles. That's how entertaining they are right from the get go for me. When they debuted, I even cried hearing Altare's cover lol. Since then, they have become part of my day. I think aside from memes and awesome debuts, you can attribute their success to their genuine bond with each other. They are also very funny. They have the same goal to entertain and produce quality streams. You can see it in the way they push back membership to ensure that members can really have good benefits. As someone who is new to the holocommunity which is obviously composed of men, I am also starting to enjoy the chat and how they just meme everything. As a woman, I was always afraid that the chat might be toxic but wow, everyone just vibe with each other. I am very happy for this video cause I am really looking forward to this from your channel. Kudos!
Female holofan here! I really like Hololive because it just feels very wholesome, like a large group of friends hanging out. Some livers like Marine and Matsuri have a yabai image, but their streams are so warm, it’s like watching and chatting with a friend.
Being a Holostars fan for a year, i was actually worried about them and what they will add into the brand. I'm also worried that the fans they will bring might bring conflicts to the peaceful stars community. But lo and behold they really proved us wrong. They weren't what i think they would be and they fit pretty nicely in Holostars. I want to thank the people who accepted them because they are such a nice addition to the family
Proud to say i was there when peeps in 4chan was shitting on them until they created the maglord. It was such a fun experience too when Magni challenged us to magged until his debut xD
This was almost my exact situation. I had been following Stars for some time when they announced EN auditions, and I was instantly terrified. Increased exposure = increased audience = increased chance of loonies invading our fun, chill community and targeting the JP and EN boys over any little thing they could (I mean, look at how Twitblr goes after Calli). For that reason alone, I didn't want Stars EN to happen. .....Now I'm a Vestfriend.
I fucking love them all. HoloTempus are just genuine people and bros playing with each other and it's honestly the first time I've ever poured so much of my free time watching a vtuber gen. I'm happy that they're getting the success they deserve.
I had mild expectations for Tempus. I half expected them to be accepted by the majority of the vtuber, but just not be watched or acknowledged. I was gonna give them a chance and boy am I glad that I did. If not for that, I would never have discovered Magni and his amazing charisma and hilarious antics. 1 MAGBILLION SUBSCRIBERS HERE WE GO! Magnation 4 lyfe!
Frankly I wasn't even into Vtubers until my friend started sharing about Holo TEMPUS. I honestly appreciate the hard work and faith YAGOO-san had for these boys.
I’m a fan of Holostars JP before, because of language barrier and few clips of them.. I stop watching until I saw the EN branch, I got worried especially when I saw their character.. I still watch their debut to support but didn’t expect to love them! I did enjoy watching Luxiem before but Tempus is different, they’re homies. I love their bro vibe, I’m a girl but they don’t present themselves as ikemen that you want to date lol but a group of friends chilling. I love when they do group collab, I love their talk so much, no one is over exaggerating shouting or doing sussy or too sexual jokes to become funny. They are so chill and chaotic but in good way. I’m proud of them!
You may attribute much of this to Magni and his memes, but Vesper tends to draw people in with his conversations and suddenly you wonder where the hours went. Plus now we have Altaire becoming a demon lord somehow...
I was worried about Regis since he seemed to be the only one going the fujo pandering route but hes completely flipped things around. Dude went overnight from kawaii ugguuu to the demon lord that was Moona'ing up their Minecraft server
Vesper is the king of zatsudan. I had no interest in half of the topic he talked, but bc he is so passionate about the things he loves and he is so good at making them sound interesting, now I'm filled with knowledge of bikes, tea and computer hardware. Altare is a creature I don't understand. He is so unpredictable and funny in a very weird way, I can spend hours listening to him role playing and doing weird stuffs.
Gosh those Hololive scouts are amazing. They keep finding all these diamonds in the Rough. Vesper literally found an older Male viewer niche that relates to him so much. Also watching the Bros together just seems like observing a bunch of old friends.
VT board attributed a lot to it. Same as how they attributed a lot to some downfall. People tend to forget that all memes on the internet originated from 4Chan. What we read in other sites are either stolen from 4Chan or derivative of what 4Chan did. Appeased them and you will have a good internet based career. Which Tempus did really well. Magni understanding of how 4Chan works (since his "past life" often deal with them) and his quick reaction to follow along give the TEMPUS and holostars in general what they need. The next step would be to get some new gen in JP Holostars which are capable of being bilingual (like Coco and Hachama) and Holostars will have a bright future. Bro Vtuber is untapped market. I have had enough of Yaoi bait male VTuber.
@@muhammadsyafiq1004 Yeah. I saw a meme that put tempus agaist Hololive Unicorns and Gachikois, Nijisanji Stans, and even China(because why not). Literally a story of me vs the world
@@reggielacey2235 Nijisanji is good as Vtubers. The problem I see is that Luxiem ended up attracting a new demographic of people into vtubing. Such mesh of diferent fanbase of course is gonna be chaotic as hell, not to mention they started to pander to that demographic. Something that really irks me is that they try to sell it as a "Big family", which worked for a while, if you ignore Riku ACCELERATE tactis to flood the market. Niji EN is gonna share the same fate as Niji JP, too many talents in a very corporate company that really judges you based on your numbers.
A month has passed and I'm glad the boys got their footing, they have a nice chemistry with each other that they just bros having fun. I'm very glad callie is doing collabs with them and getting along with Vespar/Magni 1 on 1. They were worried about the collab with the girls but ended up being the most fun collabs and can't wait for their half year anniversary. Thank you yagoo
Thinking back on their debuts, I think the things they really got across to me was that they were just really happy to be here- to an infectious degree- and that they were down to clown around and meme for shits and giggles. That was when they had me sold.
I mean Vesper went from an 'Alucard Lookalike' (when his design was announced) to a Dumpster diving Grandpa who screams at his plants, tastes hot sauces and tea and talks about floppy disks. The latter being of course more attractive/intresting for audiences.
yeah same. The girls usually already start out with 100k+ subs before even debuting, and the milestones tend to happen so fast that it doesn't feel like anything special imo. Like 1m milestones in hololive don't mean anything to me emotionally anymore because it's almost expected of the girls. It's gonna be fun watching the boys grow over time.
I don’t think I have ever been able to keep up with a holo gen’s streams without being bored and just watching clips as much as I have for Tempus. Their Apex streams are straight up addicting and they seem to have all the motivation in the world. I’m also now questioning my sexuality due to Altare’s voice.
As a Star JP fan I was worried when I saw all the negativity even before debut, I didn't want them to live the same experience that their JP senpais and even if the meme helped there were and there still are people who won't give them a chance or hate on them mainly because they only want cute girls, yes cute girls are great but there are people like me who also wants the boys. If you don't like it you can always ignore it but don't be a jerk. They obviously knew about the haters but they were strong enough to pass over it and do their things. I'm so proud and happy for them, I hope they continue doing their best
@@noe4354 same I know some people find it sucks but maybe someday they will get another outfits or maybe they will update it just like what happened to risu.
They're actually just like your favorite male streamer that u used to watch before discovering vtubers.. I find them very watchable coz they don't try to flirt with me on multiple streams and make feel awkward lol
Yeah, I still remember magni's debut when he bring out the love potion moment and I cringe so hard at that part. I'm glad it's only a bit and not a content he will do on stream.
!! THANK YOU FOR USING MY ART IN THE THUMBNAIL :D!! And excellent video!! The boys did amazing I’m very proud of them! Only success for HoloTEMPUS moving forward!!
I like watching vtubers without the thirst trap bullshit. Holostars is exactly that group (although some members do it a little bit). I'm glad people gave TEMPUS a chance.
Hohestly TEMPUS won me over. When I first saw their designs, I didn't like it admittedly - Magni's the most. But when they did debut, funny enough, he became my favorite quickly with his wit and comedy and perosnality.
The thing that i appreciate about the vtubers themselves, even if they came from different companies/groups, is that they all somehow help each other by replying to tweets to each other and stuff. Doesn't matter if their fans are having fan wars, the vtubers themselves are supportive of each other and I think that matters a lot
ngl I actually feel more engaged with Tempus than I do with Myth. The second Magni whiped out Copium I knew I found my place in the vtuber community. So ima support the boys best I can and I hope we get gen 2 soon
Cover Staff: "It'll never work Yagoo. Males can never be Vtubers!" Yagoo: *cracks knuckles, rotates neck, straightens tie, slides up to his desk, and opens up five /vt/ threads in seperate tabs* "Observe the power of shitposting, oh ye of little faith."
I wasn't a fan when tempus was announced but out of curiosity I watched their debuts. I shit on vespers design the most but now I find myself waiting for his membership to open. I absolutely adore him!
I have to be honest... I enjoy watching (or rather listening) to any of the girls streams when I'm interested in the game they're playing. But with Tempus I can relate to them so much because I can see myself doing that with my friends, for example the "I studied the blade" bit or Axel exploding while trying to avoid death... I hits right home.
Speaking as a recoving Sanalite. Tempus has become somthing of a rebound for myself and i beleve quite a few others. Including people like Holocrumb, Pako and Mistle making content about Tempus. The boys themselves felt bad about the timing of their debuts being so close to a graduation but I think they were also needed to help raise spirts of us loosing our first Holo EN member.
They even tried to make sure they had no streams during Sana's graduation or if there was, they cancelled it. To this day, we still dunno if they cried during that concert (they most certainly did imo)
Same here. Tbh without Sana i had little reason to watch another streams except for collabs and such, but now I'm watching more streams than ever. I'm so happy that we have the boys.
Both tempus and iluna is like opposite of vt Of "wow this looks like all out war" But instead they act like 2 friend group that working from different company that hang out in 1 bar
As someone who was very excited for HolostarsEN and has been happily on the pulse of these wonderful boys since day 1, memes are what they absolutely ride and die by. And I'm totally down for that
Axel really surprised me with the gap of his normal speaking voice and singing voice. His way of bringing himself really caught me off guard and keep me watching the StarsEN
I was really hype when they first announced tempus but being a unmotivated and lazy uni student that i am i initially plan to only occasionally watch some of them,but now here i am watching all 4 and trying to catch up to the vods as much as possible,they are just so fun and entertaining to watch man, honestly probably my favourite vtuber group rn
As someone who genuinely liked their designs, saw all the side content like the manga that was being put out, knew of Cover's track record in casting and saw Yagoo also magging out. I had zero doubt in my mind TEMPUS would be a success.
im still mad about those complainers and bullies who were actively shitting on tempus' model design like bruh that artwork is someone else's hardwork, i felt so bad for their mama's 😭😭😭
A collaboration ban to force Tempus into developing a strong identity from the beginning and a one-hour limit for the first few weeks of streaming both to pressure some sentiment of haste in their personal presentations and compressing VODs into easily digestible chunks. All this as well as an unknown length of time spent actually playing and becoming friends with each other days, weeks, or even months prior to debuting to establish not only a strong sense of camaraderie between what is essentially now a tight-knit squad of bros with significantly varied personalites and quirks. 4 storied and well-spoken individuals with invaluavle experience in the field and a willingness to ride the line of chaos as they see fit. Each man is his own powerhouse of unique absurdity and it shows. They were limited but through artificial obstacles were they made to develop unique and ingenious strategies of becoming something more than just a new wave of male VTubers in a saturated market and community that openly dislikes and disavows male VTubers. They didn't even need to pander to a female-oriented audience, they simp-ly fell onto their laps as good boys are want to recieve. Tempus is Yagoo's masterwork. I pray for their sucess. No, I know they will succeed. I just hope their efforts mark a turning point for this community.
Admittedly it was the shortest restriction in their brand's history. Typically it would be like for like a month. But the boys seem keen on collaborations that they blazed past it without the fans even noticing. This is what Niji should have been doing with every new member/wave of talents, have them get along with themselves first and find their footing before getting along with their seniors. Really irked me with ILUNA, literally the next day they were already doing collabs with other gens and waves. They could have just have them adjust a bit more beforehand like HoloPro does.
I feel like I am part of the minority who genuinely wanted a HoloStars EN for like the longest time... and I was genuinely mega excited for their announcement. I was also extremely happy to see that they did as well as they did, as one of my friends who was initially not that interested Hololive, has given her a bit of interested in it through Holostars.
Tempus also have a solid plan by scheduling streams, collabing regularly, visiting each other's chats and passing on viewers to the next guy streaming.
I had no idea about the mixed reaction beforehand, I just watched their debuts when I discovered there were english male vtubers in hololive. I just thought they had good personalities and get along really well as a unit, absolutely bros being bros
I will admit that initially I didn't care for them and that out of the designs, Altare and Axel I preferred over Magni and Vesper. But I knew from the beginning that I was going to check them all out on debut anyway because I was very curious. Come their debuts and and I hade such a wide smile watching them. While they were all great I gravitated more towards Magni for his charisma, and Vesper for being such a genuine person. It's to the point where I really wish they got even more attention. Their arrival to Holostars was a success, yeah, but I just think they deserve a lot more. But simultaneously, their much steadier growth probably is safer for them. It'd likely make an easier time for them to acknowledge that the fans they get are there for them rather than the brand they're under. I wish nothing but the best for TEMPUS, and I look forward to the day the boys become senpais themselves. ... also I really do wanna see Magni box YAGOO. And Vesper play golf with YAGOO. I'd like to imagine best girl would have to do each in succession lol.
I like HoloTempus because they feel less restricted compared to Hololive, I personally am starting to watch Hololive less because everything feels so corporate-y and restricted. (I mean they are idol vtubers so idk what I expected anyways)
The thing is tempus cuss way more, talk about subjects that hololive won't touch for an example axel's harem. Axel's dick and balls. They are way less idols but more as true friends you spend time with at work or at school
Well in that case, you may want to start watching the HoloID girls for the Hololive side. These girls are also able to talk on topics HoloEN and HoloJP wouldn't even dare to touch on, things like whether or not they'll have kids in the future, or planning IRL outings with the boys from Holostars if they get the chance to go to JP, you know the drill HoloID and Holostars imo still have the same braincell. HoloID members have no problem responding to 'fans' aggresively if they're doing misconducts
i've been into holostars for a little over a year now, and tempus is what holostars needed as a boost. i'm proud of how far everyone in holostars has come. they all deserve so much love.
Tempus was really just the bois getting a camera, sit in front of it, and do what bois do, kinda like Joey, Garnt, and Connor. You have the supposed Hero, Altare, but really a ASMR demon lord; Axel the singing maxed out single-core brain of a fury; the Maglord; and the dumpster diving zombie panties collecting Grampa Vesper. The moment Yagoo went in with the memes, and especially the Magni shirt during the Crunchyroll Expo, the community lost it. Tempus protected Yagoo's smile.
I don't think any Vtuber ever made me laugh out loud to the point of having my sides hurt like TEMPUS boys do. Once I laughed so loud I scared my poor dog lmao. I was stopping to watch streams from the HoloEN girls or any other Vtuber, but now I tune in to the boys everytime I can. I'm really happy for them.
It also helps that it seems like Tempus management is under the same wing as HoloEN management, not their own management team like HolostarsJP. It means that the team managing Tempus already have experience managing the EN girls. Back when HolostarsJP debuted, management was practically in shambles due to lack of experience, budget, and staff. Yagoo had to personally manage the first gen Holostars himself before hiring an actual manager.
@@MrTigracho there's no direct confirmation, but it's pretty easy to put the dots together. Both branches are under Omega, and the HoloEN girls were the only ones aware of Tempus pre-debut. Not even HolostarsJP knew about Tempus.
ok altventurers, whip out your wallets and send him your supers. let's face it, he's currently the weakest out of Tempus, but I have a feeling he got the job because he has other skills that would stand out. Other than the cello. It seems that when it comes to VR stuff, he is pretty knowledgable. All I could say is that his soft-spoken voice might turn off the fans, but if he becomes the backbone of starsEN for tech like how Ame did, he'd be a cornerstone soon enough. But yeah, vr is one of the most difficult to setup stream of them all.
@@carlorielmendez6505 I don't think weakest is the right word here. I think his target demographic is smaller than the rest. You know soft spoken, cheerful spirit vibe tends not attract much general Hololive audiences but rather female audiences, which nijisanji is the key player in that market. But I'm fine with that since I like diversity, also his strongest point is singing and I would like to see more of that in the future
Fan communities are great but can also be a detriment. TEMPUS proved themselves and, I think, were made that much stronger by being given a trial by fire through the brutal criticism they received prior to their debuts, as I believe you point out in this vid. One of the biggest things TEMPUS (as well as ILUNA) are a new age of VTubers who started as big fans of VTubing, instead of being traditional streamers and entertainers. I think this is a sign of a change in the tone and community. Add to that the decreasing of prices for equipment and tools to become a VTuber and, possibly (if there remains a stable global market and economy) over the next 5-10 years, we could see a New Hollywood-style rise of indies and new companies take over and dethrone the current hierarchy, and possibly be better for it. Only time will tell.
i'm gonna be honest. i was just listening to their debut streams having very low expectations but the moment Vesper mentioned the now legendary ball and his love of tea and computer hardware specifically the *satisfaction of peeling the plastic of new hardware and the smell of brand new hardware. i was hooked.
it's a really interesting parallel that both Myth & Tempus really started to kick into high gear pre-debut just through their Twitter interactions and their personality shining through those tweets, sneak-peak style
I'm grateful and really happy from my bottom of heart about their succes and rises. I have mild expectation for them also really worried from begining. As holostars fan (on hiatus bcs dealing with parasocial, now i'm fine and ready back to them in near future) i have wish and hope they really last long, rises with stable and healthy fans as they are. Most of holostars JP's fans are from overseas, just look at the clip about them and the comments (especially astel roberu shien) Knowing tempus got humble home and friends in this vtuber community really bring me smiles. I hope both of them can gain and maintain more local healthy fans too. Not only overseas fans, is good tbh to have fans for around the world but quite hard if our boys have offline concert. I do thinking some ppl not really capable go to japan cause different circumtance. And if our boys not really have enough local fans, company will give them longer time or concert. Aside gachikoi i hate this too. That's why i really don't like idol concept. Holostar JP & EN, they more like homie (for any gender) we can meet through virtual with talent as singer and entertainer. And i also love how this fanbase not really have fujo (i think?) It's not like i hate them but sometimes they disturbing me. And last, I really hope our ex'stars jp still here with us. Wish them have live they dreamed on, healthy and happy.
What I like about Holostars and Tempus by extension, they always felt more brotherly than outright trying to become FujoBait. and like always, if People wanted Tempus too fail, making them as memes is actually helping them instead, as usual, Ignoring Tempus like how people did to Holostars initially was more damaging then getting memed.
As one of few that was actually hyped about StarsEN debut, it made me sad that people were shitting on their designs and by doing that, shit on the artists that worked hard on them. Ever since their debut, my interest in the EN girls completely vanished and safe to say, I won't be going back to them outside of KronMei fanarts. Vesper's story about that plastic ball and that you can be happy at work once in a long while is so fucking wholesome. I go back to it to see his absolute joy being in Holostars. Was pleasantly surprised that Cover dropped the Month ban after two weeks and it was after the boys got monetization and during their celebration, we got to see them being hit that they'e part of Holostars and that they're fucking grateful to those that stock through with them after being doubted about their debuts. Watching their streams/VoDs is always fun and hilarious. Especially their collabs with each other where they just chill and talk shit to each other and most of all, be wholesome together. I mean fuck, Axel had a nightmare about Vesper being kidnapped or some shit and that he messaged Vesper right quick after waking and hoping that he's alright. So yeah, that's a big fucking friendship bond if I've ever seen. I'm so happy for them and excited to see them collab with their JP brothers, whenever they get the chance. Edit: As Subatomo, I'll still watch Subaru and many of the JP girls. At least their chats are better than the EN girls. Sick of reading feet and among us in the en chat...
I wasn't really into their concept and design when they were introduced, however, as an avid StarsJP viewers, I expected such concept from Tempus, looking at how most recent StarsJP debuts' (Trinero, Uproar) character design are geared towards a more "fantasy" based character. However, overlooking their char. design, Tempus defies my expectations and hit the ground from their debut stream, by literally being so good at genuinely playing into their lore without being too cringey. They have a good balance between playing their characters and being relatable bros. I think their best quality is the fact that all of them focus on different content, but still provided good bridges to connect between each other. It also helps that they have the vibe of chill bros hanging out with each other. It sorta make it easy to follow their content without having to fall into a specific niche. Tbh, numbers might not reflect the level of success that Tempus has reached, if you compare to Iluna. However, given they actually have a strong core fanbase, I can see them growing more steadily in the upcoming days. It's really interesting to see which direction they would go.
when it comes to support, Tempus has a stronger supachat baseline totals nowadays. for a newbie vtuber, supas are a strong source of income (VOD ads can bring in money but for that, I don't have the numbers in front). Ren Zotto, surprisingly, has a weak superchat history (I double checked, he caught up on the average for iluna but he has a very weak supa number last week). Scarle only hit her stride the past few weeks as their gen's top supa, from a very weak viewership the prior weeks, which I am very happy for her. So yeah, there are many ways to support the boys, but for hard earned money, Tempus is leading in terms of 1 month in supa numbers, with vesper blazing the trail.
@@carlorielmendez6505 Adding to this comment, it seems like Holostars EN has a much older audience than Illuna, which probably contributes to their relatively high supachat rate. A group of 20-40 year olds supporting Vesper will have much more disposable income than teen to twenty somethings following Iluna. At least that is my theory (on top of their already noted skill and chemistry)
Hope this would serve as bridge for more wholesome Boys Interaction with the other Holo Stars Boys, Man I didn't expect to love Vespie gramps and his wholesome story about his dumpster dives ventures and his Dad joke's
i never thought i would like male vtuuber but damn holotempus was legit like watching bros on stream seeing jp holostars also posting their underwear pic also made me intrested to watch their stream cuz they also seem like bros
I was suprised to find out that Holostars was YAGOO's personal project. Learning that made me appreciate Holostars even more now.
That makes sense as to why he interacts with them often
He was also the one who stayed with Miyabi along with Shinove during his early days, truly the best girl homie
Yagoo secretly wants to be a holostar
@@RaemiChimiko Yagoo carried the whole thing before Shinove got hired. He cares for the girls, yes, but the boys are his babies.
Yagoo truly picked the right people to be in TEMPUS. Such talented people!
AHH! The COPIUM! LARGE AMOUNTS OF COPIUM!
i cant believe that "morbius saved holotempus" can be considered an accurate statement
Morbius did more for hololive then it did for its own studio 😂😂
IMO Magni blew up because people realized who his past life was. If morbing had never happened, his fans would have found some other meme to
latch on to.
@@CSDragon True that people would have found out who he is, but the *initial* hype that convinced ppl to even give him a chance was sparked by the morbius meme, so atleast on this timeline, we may appreciate how Magging saved holotempus
@@CSDragon I have no clue who magni was but I still be magging
@@CSDragon I personally haven't seen anything about any of the Tempus bois' pasts other than the obvious /vt/ rrats.
As a StarsJP fan, I trusted Yagoo to choose good people for the roles since the beginning. And holy shit did they still blow my mind.
Best girl never let us down as always
sasuga best girl
Vesper's debut is worth paying attention to if you have interest in Vtubing, particularly if you want to get your audience to like you pretty much out the gate. Ame praised Cover for their talent recruitment when the boys debuted, and she's so right. If I remember right, she tweeted this while Vesper was debuting in particular. He was the HoloStar I was the least bit interested in and had the least expectation in liking, just based off what little we saw from his Twitter and his lore/design.
What I expected from Vesper was a lore-heavy try-hard. What I got was a humble guy who has a palpable passion and knowledge of Vtubing, nerd culture, and things in general. Vesper also has a degenerate side that slips out on occasion, showing he's down to clown with the other boys. He acknowledged he came from humble beginnings, and Cover took a risk with him, not recognizing his own potential as a zatsudan master who could keep me interested in listening to paint dry. His story of keeping in mind that fun days will come again (the plastic ball story) is incredibly relatable. I feel like I knew at debut what kind of person he was, and what kind of entertainer, and it just made me want to join him for the ride.
His debut really come alive with that plastic ball story. I'm sure he just added the bit as a time filler, but little did he know that it's an accidental hit. It's just makes him wholesome and relatable. I was watching the hololive watchalong of his debut, and I had to run to his channel straightaway to sub.
I followed Vespers previous life, I wasn't a regular viewer but tried to keep up to date. He did pretty good for an indie, and has definitely experienced the struggle with all of its lows and highs. When the criticism started to come in, I could see him giving advice to the team on how to turn it into something positive, and fuel a desire to prove them wrong.
right? I've NEVER felt so invested watching a vtuber debut before. Literally didn't want it to end.
The man is a natural storyteller, and genuinely fits the role of being a scholar (doesn't feel like its lore he's pretending to care about because it's his job, he genuinely acts like a scholar).
Knew him from his previous life/avatar. He's a dude who started small, did the grind and made it. Now he gets to enjoy the fruits of his labour and I'm glad more and more people are discovering him and appreciate him.
In all HoloEN audition, there is always at least one less-known person and usually this person will lead the others. Personally, I think Altare came from even humbler beginnings because he is more less known than Vesper but overall I am happy that this formula stays in Hololive audition.
I swear TEMPUS is a legit comeback/underdog story of the vtuber community
Like Stars jp.
It just shows the resiliency of StarsJP and EN. No amount of antis can stop them
Holostars in general is
Magni really handled that meme like an absolute professional, the push and pulling were done just right so it wouldn't die on a sour note. Funny how it also clashed with his original plans to make his debut content as boring as possible to nurture a fanbase that grew from just his personality.
edit: one of the things i like the most about holotempus's designs and art is that it actually suits their voice and personality. Tempus not finding instant success like Myth will also make for a much more memorable starting patch and a much more satisfying result for every achievement. Tempus and their fanbase will grow together through various hardships, just like the JP Holostars, which is what made the JPstars so special to their fans.
one thing about magni is that the simplest way to "fix" him is to just not look forward a lot during streams. and that rarely happens. Nobody cares about his base art shenanigans now.
hah, HANDled
They didn't just surpass expectations, they literally went *EVEN. FURTHER. BEYOND!*
No they MAGGED all over us
@Kirara That's over 9000 tho
@Kirara Still a pretty good number when you consider the fact that they are Holostars. If you have watched the video, you'll know the hardships Stars went through. The biggest Holostars member right now is Roberu with his 260k+ subs, that took him 3 years to get there. The fact that Tempus managed to get 100k subs this fast is already enough to call them success
@Kirara because their main content is streaming not a premade video.
They went PLUS ULTRA!
I'll admit I had low expectations for Tempus going into it, but they've really grown on me. They're a bunch of bros, and it's fun to watch them interact with other members of Hololive.
Me too, the fact they are also passionate like how Thier Senpais are gives me hope that they will blow up eventually
Man the calli collab was really fun
the ollie apex collab is I think the best holo collab with tempus
I was worried that, as I'd not really had interest in HolostarsJP, that I might've just been biased toward the girls, which I felt bad about because I wanted to support the guys; I'd want the support if I were in their shoes, after all, so it'd be a bit hypocritical of me otherwise. I'm glad that it just turned out to be the language barrier, I love the Tempus boys just as much as the rest of EN if not more so in some ways.
Clearly Hololive fans who said there wasn’t a market for male vtubers were dead wrong. I hope we have many more iterations of StarsEN.
I think what's interesting about Magni's design is that he's almost never looking straight ahead while he's streaming. He's always turned a little bit and suddenly you can see the bridge of his nose and it doesn't look weird anymore. So, for some reason, all the promotional art that showed him straight on literally chose his worst angle to try to promote him.
yeah, that's the best way to solve his problem, and didn't cost him a thing. shrugging off an "issue" people throw off at you is generally a safe and sometimes best answer.
Yes, exactly this! At first I was also put off by his design but by watching his streams where he moves his model a lot, it looks good!
Another amazing about his design is his glove cloak. It gives him so much asset potential to play around with, and he damn well knows. So he commissioned an artist to make glove assets for him to use on stream and even animated himself what might be the greatest starting intro in Holopro. Also with his drawing prowess, he can take his design to whole other levels, which can be seen with his Sonic OC and his unofficial mascot that even rivals the adorableness of Takodachis, the Magmite!
Yeah, they chose a weird angle for Magni, similar to Phineas' head from the front, obviously not that bad, but somewhat out of place.
The Shigure Ui solution
When Holostars EN was announced i was so fucking hyped, but also afraid that they would not get attention.
Fortunately, things went pretty well, people quickly forgot about their design and stayed for who they are, 4 insanely talented entertainers.
The future looks bright.
The design talk was scary but I’m glad the boys are doing fine
Magni's design really grew on me
I felt similar but still would watch them anyways or at least have the their streams in the background muted to add to small numbers. Now I don’t have to worry about that since they’re genuinely entertaining.
Holostars en proofed that no fancy model can equal to greatness
@@akira8393 Tbf... Gura already proved that xD Her rigging is still kinda scuffed to this day, but she's just genuinely entertaining, people don't care, it's the exact same here. Yeah, a good model can pull in initial numbers, but those numbers won't stay around if you suck.
They met everything I wanted from a StarsEn. They're absolute bros, memelords, mix great together, and great entertainers overall. They don't crutch on certain "clippable" moments like being absolute degenerates, their genuity is what made me become a fan of theirs.
Agree! they were something most en vtubers can't even do..
I agree with the clippable degenarates moment, and Im simply tired with those nowadays.
Unlike Nijisanji EN
@@reggielacey2235 of course there's always people like you who love mentioning and bringing down other agencies/vtubers. Mate, just enjoy what you enjoy. You can be a fan of something without bringing the other sides down.
Wait...what does "clippable degenerate" even mean?
I was there. I was there when the Magging began. It was reminiscent of the golden days of /a/ where everyone genuinely had fun. Magposting was a change of pace from the honestly stale dramabaiting in /vt/ and we spammed the board like there was no tomorrow. Imagine our surprise when our grassroots shitposting would spread to twitter, and to Yagoo himself of all people. It was honestly a historical moment in /vt/ second only to /ringo/.
I was lurking when the bois started their debut just to see /vt/'s reaction. And the complete 180 of them actively memeing to then unironically liking the bois made me laugh, the sudden shift of "HomoStars will steal our chubas" to "Ive watch more of the bois that the girls this week" is astounding.
the Doubters will never win.
most of the biggest memes are born from 4chan so it's not a surprise.
Same. The war was brutal but in the end the sacrifices managed to pursue us to victory. All hail to Maglord!
We have won brother's!
Vesper screamin "I'm so happy to be a holostar" and his plastic ball story instantly won me over on Tempus as a whole
Lmao, Altare had me won over but that did me in
4:44 Cover did NOT launch holostars EN because of luxiem. I am surprised this misconception still persists to this day.
In general Holopro just debuts batches of vtubers at a slower pace than nijisanji. They made a deliberate decision to focus on supporting their existing talents instead of churning out new talents nonstop.
auditions for male talents even in english has ALWAYS been ongoing however Cover opted to put stars EN on the back burner for the entirety of 2021 because they focused on Holostars JP heavily. They gave them a lot of projects including all member 3D, culminating with the concert at the end of the year, and then Uproar, and only after could the staff focus on Holotempus. I think people are forgetting that holopro EN doesnt have that big of a staff, everyone’s busy all the time.
the sooner people realize that the two companies just have different paces and philosophy when it comes to talents, the more peace we get
and personally, HoloPro’s decision to focus on stars JP is a move that i will always respect to the highest degree. Any other company and these boys wouldve probably just been cast aside to rot until the members graduated, but cover standing by talents even when they’re not considered big and profitable is really impressive and frankly isn’t something you’d typically expect in the corporate sphere. i cant believe im out here praising big corpos but honestly if casuals just stopped generalizing things they’d see that the situation is way more nuanced
Fr they were planning en for a whole year
i cannot agree more, thank you for saying this out loud
I agree, they were already accepting males during the audition for 2nd gen holoEN and that was way before luxiem debuted but maybe just got sidetracked.
@@mitsuki2607 they obviously weren't sidetracked with the way the sped through the 3D debuts
@@noe4354 I meant holostars EN got sidetracked because maybe cover focused on other projects.
I find myself spending more time with the boys as of late, they're darn entertaining and resonate to me way more.
Same for me, i normally have to be in the "mood" or has to be a game/activity that interests me to watch a holo stream. Now I pretty much watch Vesper whenever he's live.
I think this is also the reason why I enjoy and resonate alot with the girls because I am a female, it's great to see you guys get the same treatment.
@@AshleighStent HoloID got the most girl homies vibe, and holostar got the most boy homies vibe. It's balanced
Except for my oshii, yeah, same.
Same and idky like once i got into watching vtubers i started with girls but now i'm more to watching male vtubers
TEMPUS and Holostars in general are basically male vtubers with less swearing, less sexual jokes, and more controlled tweets. I am way more happy to have those kind of friends. I'm glad that TEMPUS matched my expectation and I wish them all the best for their idol journey.
Hololive audition team never disappoint.
The moment that made me a dedicated Tempus fan started with the Vesper plastic ball story. From there I got hooked.
Never thought I'd get emotional over a ball of peeled plastic, but there we were. Now we're Vesties
@@AGuyNamedRex also the fact that Vesties wasn't even on his radar for names but when he seen it he instantly wanted to ask management if it was ok to use.
same. and MAGNATION speeches got me too.
Plastic love?
@@puppytigers peeling plastic
Vesper thumbnails are a game of their own, magni loading screen skets are amazing, altare voice is a Power itself, and Axel crazyness is a sweet thing
One of the interesting parts is watching some people learn that, yes, JP Stars in fact have just been a bunch of bros hanging out this whole fucking time.
I do feel it's a little unfair to portray Holostars as a failure. Four stars are above 200k subs, every member except the new uproar boys is above 100k. By hololive standards, that's low. But in the larger vtuber sphere, Shien, Roberu and Astel are some of the biggest male vtubers in the world. And they did it without automatically getting subs off of successful senpai. That deserves respect.
I feel this too. Holostars JP is a success, it just couldn't feed off the astronomical success of Hololive due to the disinterest of its fanbase. They have a very similar bro feel to Tempus's, they're just fighting a more uphill battle than them since both outsiders and the Hololive community actually gave Tempus a chance from the beginning
Also, heck yeah 2nd Act Live. So excited for their concert in October
they had a bit of an uphill battle though it did help when more and more western fans started to learn of their existence and give them a boost (youtubing in general has a 'snowball effect' I notice, once you get the ball rolling, thats when success starts to arise)... and while 100k-200k seems pretty small in comparison to the girls numbers, that's still quite high in the general Vtuber sphere as a whole... the boys always tend to do pretty well in collaborations with fellow Vtubers and voice actors/celebs too, and it helps that they've had very little drama overall too bar a pretty rough beginning due to idol stans.
Yup
Depressed nousagi when it comes to Hololive, he researched it greatly but when it comes to others especially males kinda shallow especially the JP side. Let's just leave some info about their successes that they don't usually know for now
Yeah, comparatively, they are doing well for what was essentially a super niche streaming genre. Its a success, sub wise and live viewer count wise. They already vastly outstrip most other v-tubers and streamers in general. But, like with most people, you always wish more for them.
when they got introduced, i admit vesper design is kinda off to me. however when they debut out of all the boys vesper the one that attract me more. the way he speak during debut make me forgot it almost an hour and he still not finish introducing himself. his zatsudan always like that. you never know an hour have already past. his boomer meme is funny.
same as the other, when they collab together, it just feel bros being bros. they joke and teasing each other. it really surpassing everyone expectation.
Because Vesper was always a hard worker, even in his "past life". So, once we saw that he "made it" into cover, we were very happy for him, even though he doesn't game that much.
Tempus never had that ackward phase of them just getting to know one another, they just seemed friends from the start. I guess because they made an effort to hang out a lot prior to debuts. They also seemed to work as a team with a goal to boost one another.
Contrast with Council who all seemed very ackward and unsure of one another for awhile. It's a bit better now, but I never get the vibe they are close friends. Just work assiociates.
@@blacksesamecandies imo Council has kind of been "disbanded" into two cliques: SNOT and Chad.
Vesper is so incredibly articulate and passionate about nearly everything that he talks about (also, really wise) that he makes you forget time. Dude is honestly such a natural streamer.
@@TheKeksadler oh?
So, at first I thought the designs for Magni and Vesper were kind of weird, but once they started actually using the models and embuing them with their personalities, I completely changed my mind. In fact, now I'm glad that the designs are the way they are, rather than more generic style bishonen guys; it sets them apart.
Vesper is laser targetted to my experience as a 30 year old who's been online since he was 13, and he's super fun and wholesome to boot. Magni's shitposting is amazing. Regis' soft spoken sadism and occasional full blown malding is hilarious. Honestly, the one who I think hasn't quite found his niche yet (at least for me) is Axel, which is weird, because I thought I'd like him the most since his debut stream since he's another Aussie like I am. I guess if I was more interested in the music side of things I'd be more into him, though, his singing is very good.
Incidentally, the collabs that the Tempus boys have had with the girls are all great. Vesper and Magni's respective collabs with Calli were both gold, and the collab they did together with Ollie in APEX was also amazing.
10/10 would recommend holostars TEMPUS to my friends.
Agreed, I really feel like Magni, Regis, and Vesper really found their footing. While Axel kind of feels like he hasn't really found his. I was super hyped for his introduction, especially since his design was my favorite, but I find myself watching the other three more. I can tell he is still nervous and a bit too anxious compared to other three who seemed to have shaken off their nerves already.
Axel is surprisingly good at zatsudan and interacting with chat. His superchat thanking streams are really good. Plus, I feel like he works best when he has someone to bounce off of, so collabs with him are always fun. He's not a bad shot caller in Apex, either.
I'm curious to see more of his content, but chatting, Apex, karaoke, and collabing might end up being his bread and butter. Plus, he's the only fluent JP speaker and thus the only one who can easily collab with his senpai
That Apex stream had me in physical pain from laughter it was so good. Funniest stream I have seen of anything for a very long time. I think Axel stumbled a bit at the start trying to be a bit too chaotic, like his first Hitman stream was very... uh... painful to watch. The others have been better and better, but I think that first bit cost him some growth. His APEX and Zatsu streams are on point though, and his Karaoke stream was really good too (that boy can SING). I think he'd shine in more FPS games, especially if he could get his audience involved I think. But if he could get APEX with the boys or Ollie locked in more... yeah. Or RUST... I think he'd be down right lethal at that.
I've felt the same way towards Axel and couldn't really put my finger on why, but I think your comment describes it perfectly.
@@shinkicker404 Agreed, watching his Escape Simulator was really torture and kind of made me shy away from watching him, especially since I find myself watching the other bois instead. Might catch up on his past streams when I get the chance.
There's one thing that isn't mentionned in the causes of the "failing" of males VTubers : the state of the streaming industry. The biggest streamers are males gamers and there's a plethora of them, but on the female side of streaming the biggest ones are what I consider soft core p*** streamers. The success of female VStreamers can be explained by this lack of female classical streamers. There was way less competition for female content creation on the whole market which helped their growth. The males VTubers are just not filling as big a demand.
If you want to watch a woman play games while conversing and not see a chat full of sexual harassment, there's not much choice than a VTuber. But if you're looking for a man doing the same thing, you have so much choices that VTubers won't even enter your scope of research. That's why male VTubing is not reaching the same numbers.
on the other hand, it also meant that the market for a regular male streamer/youtuber is already mature and ripe for pirating/stealing views. It is also one of the strong factors as to why tempus is experiencing their slow-start-but-stable-and-steady growth currently. they got a very big market that's well defined, and magni being a veteran in the virality scene really helped a lot.
So basically it’s really hard to become an successful female streamer without doing “bathtub” streams, so vtubing is a route for women who don’t wanna do that. Meanwhile, males aren’t expected to cater to that same horny audience, so the only reason they have to join vtubers is 1. Privacy, 2. Weeb.
@@carlorielmendez6505 I feel like Magni could do a lecture about he got everyone to mag.
@@kenjethao7774 he could totally start his own alchemy academy and offering free tuition to prospective apprentices
@@kenjethao7774 He seems fitting for being a teacher to be honest...
I trusted our Shachou to give us quality when HolostarsEN was announced.
Memes aside, Yagoo has a genuine understanding of what people like about Cover's VTubers, but he also likes to surprise people with what they didn't know they wanted. Each talent, each event, each idea... They are calculated yet risky moves, and most times, it pays off.
Nintendo of vtubers
And that's why he's the ceo
I'm hooked on Grandpa Vespy with his tech tips and zatsudans. His choices of niche game genres are very entertaining since he's so experienced with them. I feel closer to him with the memes of his generation.
Magni Dezmond is a natural being able to branch out of his design with his charm and entertainment value.
Also the release of the his character sheet by his artist really gave a big FU to the people dissing Dezmond's character design by making the people see how complicated he was under the hood.
Altare with his gap Moe. From being the Party Leader of Tempus to being the Demon God himself and his more of a cultist fanbase who are willing to be sacrificed.
I haven't been able to watch a live of Axel on his own. But I've seen him and the rest of Tempus playing Apex and it's been a fun vibe during that time.
They're such bros honestly
Vesper is doing the Lord's work bringing ancient memes and finicky, 'tism-friendly games to the table. Plus he's just so jovial and thoughtful, and just... Earnest. That's the best word I can think of. Such a bro, love to see someone in my own age group (700) do so well.
I absolutely agree that Tempus is one of best wave debut. Magni debut makes me laugh so hard & Vesper 10 minute story of plastic wrap is enough proof for me that they will be well received by fans.
Their average peak viewers numbers for the last 9 streams also quite impressive. Especially, if we use NijiEN (aside Luxiem) as comparission:
- Altare: ~2.3k
- Magni: ~5.5k
- Axel: ~3.4k
- Vesper: ~6k
I hope the best for the EN guys x)
Magni, the man, the meme, the legend.
Before watching, my pure two cents:
1. Magni getting memed to hell probably helped to get people to care.
2. Vesper's Debut with the endearing and relatable plastic ball story.
And of course they all have their talents and niches. Altare's smooth radio voice and gaming skills, Vesper appealing to older audiences and zatsudan, Magni as an artist and creative, and Axel with singing and gaming skills. Plus their great synergy as such a diverse cast.
What really made them for me were the collabed with the girls though. The various collabs with Vesper, Magni, Kronii, Bae and Calli have been some of the funniest ever. I'll never forget Time Smut...
Your pattern recognition predicted the GUN RPG collab. God, that one makes me cackle like a witch.
@@DinnerForkTongue Dude, the GUN RPG collab is by far my favorite collab. The fact that they started out with two dollars and somehow ended up poorer is funny as hell. Dez and Ves is by far my favorites out of all of holostars
@@MrHobo175 If only they'd at least showed _one_ life sign... Not so much Dez, but Vesper.
That Internet Historian intro lol
I'm glad the boys succeed!! They're so funny and relatable afterall. Their homies aura are so strong xD
Respect for the boys to take the hate like a champ and go along with it!
Thank you YAGOO for supporting the boys so much 😭😭
YAGOO : *"All according to keikaku"*
He must be really proud of the boys, they finally can fulfill his idol drea- oh wait 🤣
6:46 Lmao Suipiss again
I have a feeling that TEMPUS found a relatively untapped section of the EN vtuber market, which is the comfy brotuber kinda vibe.
They don't target the large fujo fanbase, instead they are inviting to both male and female audience somewhat equally. They give off the feeling that they are just here to mess around and have fun, and are not trying hard to get massive views and make as much money as possible.
It also helps that they feel really genuine on their streams, a breath of fresh air amongst the competitive vibe in the recent vtubing scene.
Agree, I'm female but I enjoy bros moment much more than fujobaits, I was very excited for Luxi*m back then but after some streams I can see where their fanbase heading so I'm not much into it anymore (still like the talents, but I'm scared of the fans XD), seeing Tempus and their fanbase made me happy haha.
brotuber is a weirdly comfy word
@@feaw7389 go home 4 channer
@@nore5888 Right? I found it in the comment section of one of their debut VODs. I don't remember which one.
@@feaw7389 same!! 😂
It's maggin time! Before Tempus I was mainly watching Luxiem but I came a across a clip of Magni's debut and I was instantly hooked. I love Tempus brotuber vibes. Can't wait for their podcast!
I came from Luxiem and i decided to give Tempus a chance because their announcement gave me the same vibe as Luxiem somehow. After watching them, i love these boys as much as Luxiem! I really am happy for Luxiem opening people's eyes about giving vtuber males a chance and Tempus giving people a chance to love male talents more
*Cue the guitars*
Awooo Awooo
Tempus really do be bringing new fans from different parts of the Vtuber world. I mostly watch HoloJP (mainly HoloX) and Niji’s Ex-Gamers (also the rest of the main branch to a certain extent), but Tempus has such great chemistry that they might be the first EN vtubers i will follow.
Iluna had a huge boom at the start compared to tempus but I find myself watching tempus more consistently nowadays. I still love both groups but iluna definitely needs more time to find their footing
Same
yea their chemistry isn't that strong compared to the rest of NijiEN, whilst the Tempus just hits off sprinting not running
Yeah they still yet to integrate themselves well into the rest of NijiEN.
But on the other hand I think it's interesting to see how "different" they can be. ILuna has mixed criticisms which is they are either riding too much with the rest of NijiEN with their chaotic dynamic or they are too different and hasn't integrated well into the NijiEN community.
Each member seem to have their own strengths and are unique enough to have their own fanbase but not to the degree of a well formed unit like the previous NijiEN waves.
Being a mixed gender wave also probably faces a challenge since they have to consider boundaries and how well they can mesh with each other. I'm thankful that NijiEN finally debut a mixed wave to further blur the lines of the male and female interaction within the corpo Vtuber scene but it's not to say old mindsets and trends die hard.
Maybe they'd be more comprehensive and popular if they were a girls only or a boys only group. But I guess it's just one of the challenges you have to face in the Industry and as well as for Nijisanji.
@@horiy5020 if they separate only the male side will get the clout...especially female vtubers are not the strongest thing in Niji...Im actually surprised Ren Zotto with high subs and views have a very loew superchat..my theory is Ren past life and his current IRL relationship probably the reason fujo-gachikois not giving him financial support...
@@horiy5020 I think both criticisms are exaggerated, if I was an hardcore Iluna fan I wouldn’t be worried.
Both Tempus and ILUNA are just finding their footing, they are all still gonna grow into their streaming personalities.
If anything what stands out to me the most is that Magni, Vesper and even Altare a little a bit, immediately settled into their new homes and already started showing exactly what kind of streamers they wanted to be. Dunno it it’s because of experience but this is rare.
If you compare to this Lazulight for example, I remember watching Pomu’s first stream and I was bit underwhelmed. But a year later, that OL quit her job doing Minecraft and she’s one of the most creative vtubers I follow right now.
I think ILUNA was one of the first generation which simped for their EN senpais and maybe they were a little eager to join the NijiEN family but I’m sure they will be in a totally different position in 6 months.
Vesper has quickly become my absolute favourite vtuber. I connect a lot with his apparent age difference from the rest of Holo En.
what I like from Tempus is they actually like a bro, like actual person I can befriend, they talk normally and not whisper to my ears, so I can hear them talking in the background while I doing my job. most male Vtuber I came across is targeting at female audience.
they like the Trashtaste of Hololive...
Dude, same thoughts 🤝
NTR PODCAST WOOHOO
they said 1-2 months from now a podcast will happen,,
Same. As female myself. I love bro is being bro moment. So awesome that i could even cry hahahaha
Holostars was... A miracle gift from the vtuber heaven.
Like if It wasn't for Pikamee's winning son collab, and Ollie Astel collab, I would have become a gachi koi, or just a fan.
But nope, Holostars made me a HoloPro fan and support all of the holopro members for as long as I can.
Thank you, Yagoo-sama 🙏. You are truly our best girl...
I´m waiting for the day Aruran-san manages to get into Speak of the Devil. He is taking his english classes HARD.
As a long time holostars JP fan I guess I was more worried than excited about a future holostars EN, I've followed them for years now and watched them fight and grow to the point they are today and I knew that the EN branch would automatically succeed because they can reach a wider audience due to less of a language barrier.
But my worries were drowned when they debuted because they show so much respect for their holostars senpai and even to this day they are constantly reminding fans that their success isn't mainly because of themselves its their senpai, when fans say "thank you for finally bringing holostars to the west" they remind people that the senpai did before them.
I think what was most fucked up is all the fans who hated on them and their design but now a lot of those fans love them.... very two faced lul
/VT/ actually doing something good for once is definitely a certified, *Top 10 Anime Twist Of All Time* Moment lmao
Also, personally I believe the reason why iluna hasn’t found their core fanbase yet is because they’re over reliant/living under the shadows of their predecessors. Unlike Holopro and their ‘1 month collab ban’, NijiEN has no such restriction and therefore are immediately jumping at the chance to collab with their seniors. On one hand, they’ll gain exposure from an already established fanbase. On the other hand, it’ll hamper the growth of their core fanbase since those people would merely be ‘tourist’ rather than exclusively there for them.
i agree with you. cover decision on 1 month collab ban is necessary to establish you fan
@@blackz5040 due to fan demand the Collab ban was shortened into just 20 days
@@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 i know that even im surprised when i see vesper and calli collab. thinking has it been 1 month already.
I don't watch iluna, but I do see their ccv while I watch other stream on my right hand recommended bar. They have very low numbers, but high view counts.
I'm especially worried for scarle since she rarely beat the 3 digit mark. But I think something happened last week, and now she has 4 digits on average, and her supas are suddenly very high, one of the highest if not the highest on their gen. I think it's partly due to her finding more interesting things and doing more hand streams, but I do like seeing people succeed more.
Yeah the thing about ILUNA is that despite them having more subs, their viewership are inferior to Tempus.
Ofc, that's just because Tempus managed to create a very loyal fanbase with their collab restriction, also the boys are really insanely entertaining.
As a luxiem fan and a casual watcher of myth, when I heard about Tempus I was really curious and decided to keep tabs on their reveal last month. When their designs came out, I genuinely liked them. The designs were very unique and their isekai trope might be common but very easy to follow. When they started tweeting especially Ves, I instantly knew they were going to be my faves. Since then, I would check about their tweets and have a few giggles. That's how entertaining they are right from the get go for me. When they debuted, I even cried hearing Altare's cover lol. Since then, they have become part of my day.
I think aside from memes and awesome debuts, you can attribute their success to their genuine bond with each other. They are also very funny. They have the same goal to entertain and produce quality streams. You can see it in the way they push back membership to ensure that members can really have good benefits.
As someone who is new to the holocommunity which is obviously composed of men, I am also starting to enjoy the chat and how they just meme everything. As a woman, I was always afraid that the chat might be toxic but wow, everyone just vibe with each other.
I am very happy for this video cause I am really looking forward to this from your channel. Kudos!
Glad to have you here in the community, though we aren't really all males... there are lots of Hololive female fans out there!
@@misslucywucy awww thank you so much! 🫶 sorry if i generalized the community but i am happy to be here. 🫶
As a fellow female, 🍤 is the firt vtubers that I subscribe to. I watch all their stream too since I wfh. They're my go to podcast.
Same!! Female viewers here 🙌
Female holofan here! I really like Hololive because it just feels very wholesome, like a large group of friends hanging out. Some livers like Marine and Matsuri have a yabai image, but their streams are so warm, it’s like watching and chatting with a friend.
Being a Holostars fan for a year, i was actually worried about them and what they will add into the brand. I'm also worried that the fans they will bring might bring conflicts to the peaceful stars community. But lo and behold they really proved us wrong. They weren't what i think they would be and they fit pretty nicely in Holostars. I want to thank the people who accepted them because they are such a nice addition to the family
Proud to say i was there when peeps in 4chan was shitting on them until they created the maglord. It was such a fun experience too when Magni challenged us to magged until his debut xD
This was almost my exact situation. I had been following Stars for some time when they announced EN auditions, and I was instantly terrified. Increased exposure = increased audience = increased chance of loonies invading our fun, chill community and targeting the JP and EN boys over any little thing they could (I mean, look at how Twitblr goes after Calli). For that reason alone, I didn't want Stars EN to happen.
.....Now I'm a Vestfriend.
@@sekaishinryakusenda3753 MAGNATION for life AWOOO!
I fucking love them all. HoloTempus are just genuine people and bros playing with each other and it's honestly the first time I've ever poured so much of my free time watching a vtuber gen. I'm happy that they're getting the success they deserve.
I had mild expectations for Tempus. I half expected them to be accepted by the majority of the vtuber, but just not be watched or acknowledged. I was gonna give them a chance and boy am I glad that I did. If not for that, I would never have discovered Magni and his amazing charisma and hilarious antics. 1 MAGBILLION SUBSCRIBERS HERE WE GO! Magnation 4 lyfe!
It's MAGNATION brother, we need to emphasize the nation who oust the doubters AWOO!
AMEN MAGBROTHER!
MAGNATION GIVING THE DOUBTERS L + RATIOS
A fellow MAGMITE AWWWOOO
I want a MAGMITE merch..did Magni say when he will release a MAGMITE merch on his drawing stream?
Frankly I wasn't even into Vtubers until my friend started sharing about Holo TEMPUS. I honestly appreciate the hard work and faith YAGOO-san had for these boys.
I’m a fan of Holostars JP before, because of language barrier and few clips of them.. I stop watching until I saw the EN branch, I got worried especially when I saw their character.. I still watch their debut to support but didn’t expect to love them! I did enjoy watching Luxiem before but Tempus is different, they’re homies. I love their bro vibe, I’m a girl but they don’t present themselves as ikemen that you want to date lol but a group of friends chilling. I love when they do group collab, I love their talk so much, no one is over exaggerating shouting or doing sussy or too sexual jokes to become funny. They are so chill and chaotic but in good way. I’m proud of them!
You may attribute much of this to Magni and his memes, but Vesper tends to draw people in with his conversations and suddenly you wonder where the hours went.
Plus now we have Altaire becoming a demon lord somehow...
I was worried about Regis since he seemed to be the only one going the fujo pandering route but hes completely flipped things around. Dude went overnight from kawaii ugguuu to the demon lord that was Moona'ing up their Minecraft server
Vesper is the king of zatsudan. I had no interest in half of the topic he talked, but bc he is so passionate about the things he loves and he is so good at making them sound interesting, now I'm filled with knowledge of bikes, tea and computer hardware.
Altare is a creature I don't understand. He is so unpredictable and funny in a very weird way, I can spend hours listening to him role playing and doing weird stuffs.
@@mihon6330 Altare is literally just built different. the boy goes from "soft boi" to "unhinged psycho" every few minutes and I am here for it
Gosh those Hololive scouts are amazing. They keep finding all these diamonds in the Rough. Vesper literally found an older Male viewer niche that relates to him so much. Also watching the Bros together just seems like observing a bunch of old friends.
Why they succeed? Cause they are really entertaining with great chemistry that don't let malicious vibes even touch them.
VT board attributed a lot to it. Same as how they attributed a lot to some downfall. People tend to forget that all memes on the internet originated from 4Chan. What we read in other sites are either stolen from 4Chan or derivative of what 4Chan did. Appeased them and you will have a good internet based career. Which Tempus did really well. Magni understanding of how 4Chan works (since his "past life" often deal with them) and his quick reaction to follow along give the TEMPUS and holostars in general what they need. The next step would be to get some new gen in JP Holostars which are capable of being bilingual (like Coco and Hachama) and Holostars will have a bright future.
Bro Vtuber is untapped market. I have had enough of Yaoi bait male VTuber.
@@muhammadsyafiq1004 Yeah.
I saw a meme that put tempus agaist Hololive Unicorns and Gachikois, Nijisanji Stans, and even China(because why not).
Literally a story of me vs the world
Better then shitty nijisanji EN
@@reggielacey2235 Nijisanji is good as Vtubers. The problem I see is that Luxiem ended up attracting a new demographic of people into vtubing. Such mesh of diferent fanbase of course is gonna be chaotic as hell, not to mention they started to pander to that demographic.
Something that really irks me is that they try to sell it as a "Big family", which worked for a while, if you ignore Riku ACCELERATE tactis to flood the market.
Niji EN is gonna share the same fate as Niji JP, too many talents in a very corporate company that really judges you based on your numbers.
@@MrTigracho better then vshitjo.. they literally can't stop making a "bottom" joke every 5 second's
A month has passed and I'm glad the boys got their footing, they have a nice chemistry with each other that they just bros having fun. I'm very glad callie is doing collabs with them and getting along with Vespar/Magni 1 on 1. They were worried about the collab with the girls but ended up being the most fun collabs and can't wait for their half year anniversary.
Thank you yagoo
Thinking back on their debuts, I think the things they really got across to me was that they were just really happy to be here- to an infectious degree- and that they were down to clown around and meme for shits and giggles.
That was when they had me sold.
I mean Vesper went from an 'Alucard Lookalike' (when his design was announced) to a Dumpster diving Grandpa who screams at his plants, tastes hot sauces and tea and talks about floppy disks. The latter being of course more attractive/intresting for audiences.
Dont forget hes a panty collector lol
I'm fine with their current growth as is. It makes getting to the 200k milestone more special and warranted
Yo, a little guy! Is your birthday today?
Jk aside, Im loving that "I'm just a little guy-" phrase of them
@@MakuDrawStuff (I wish) Eventually I'll change it if there's something that tickles my funny bone
yeah same. The girls usually already start out with 100k+ subs before even debuting, and the milestones tend to happen so fast that it doesn't feel like anything special imo. Like 1m milestones in hololive don't mean anything to me emotionally anymore because it's almost expected of the girls. It's gonna be fun watching the boys grow over time.
I don’t think I have ever been able to keep up with a holo gen’s streams without being bored and just watching clips as much as I have for Tempus. Their Apex streams are straight up addicting and they seem to have all the motivation in the world. I’m also now questioning my sexuality due to Altare’s voice.
As a Star JP fan I was worried when I saw all the negativity even before debut, I didn't want them to live the same experience that their JP senpais and even if the meme helped there were and there still are people who won't give them a chance or hate on them mainly because they only want cute girls, yes cute girls are great but there are people like me who also wants the boys. If you don't like it you can always ignore it but don't be a jerk. They obviously knew about the haters but they were strong enough to pass over it and do their things. I'm so proud and happy for them, I hope they continue doing their best
Im still pretty salty about the negativity they got before they even debuted.
@@noe4354 same
I know some people find it sucks but maybe someday they will get another outfits or maybe they will update it just like what happened to risu.
@@booo8042 they're not even that bad and i really liked their designs personally.
They're actually just like your favorite male streamer that u used to watch before discovering vtubers.. I find them very watchable coz they don't try to flirt with me on multiple streams and make feel awkward lol
Yeah, I still remember magni's debut when he bring out the love potion moment and I cringe so hard at that part. I'm glad it's only a bit and not a content he will do on stream.
!! THANK YOU FOR USING MY ART IN THE THUMBNAIL :D!! And excellent video!! The boys did amazing I’m very proud of them! Only success for HoloTEMPUS moving forward!!
Woahh the art is amazing nice job!!😳🤝
Nice job, keep it up 👆
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>/vt/ tries to kill Tempus and accidentally saves them
>perks of living in the darkest timeline
The darkest Timeline can breed the strongest Vtubers.
I like watching vtubers without the thirst trap bullshit. Holostars is exactly that group (although some members do it a little bit). I'm glad people gave TEMPUS a chance.
Hohestly TEMPUS won me over. When I first saw their designs, I didn't like it admittedly - Magni's the most. But when they did debut, funny enough, he became my favorite quickly with his wit and comedy and perosnality.
Hololive helps promotes Morbius -> Morbius creates Morbin meme -> Morbin meme creates Maggin meme -> Maggin meme builds hype for Holostars EN. all within Yagoo's plan.
i love tempus so much dude, never knew i needed brotubers until i saw them. they mix so well together!
Also I love it that Holostars/Hololive EN are even collabing with Nijisanji EN!! We need more of this!! ❤❤🥰🥰
The thing that i appreciate about the vtubers themselves, even if they came from different companies/groups, is that they all somehow help each other by replying to tweets to each other and stuff. Doesn't matter if their fans are having fan wars, the vtubers themselves are supportive of each other and I think that matters a lot
ngl I actually feel more engaged with Tempus than I do with Myth. The second Magni whiped out Copium I knew I found my place in the vtuber community. So ima support the boys best I can and I hope we get gen 2 soon
Cover Staff: "It'll never work Yagoo. Males can never be Vtubers!"
Yagoo: *cracks knuckles, rotates neck, straightens tie, slides up to his desk, and opens up five /vt/ threads in seperate tabs* "Observe the power of shitposting, oh ye of little faith."
The bois are the embodiment of "adapt, improvise, overcome." meme
Honestly, Magni and Vesper became one of my fav vtubers now. Magni for.. reasons and Versper is just so chill and endearing.
I wasn't a fan when tempus was announced but out of curiosity I watched their debuts. I shit on vespers design the most but now I find myself waiting for his membership to open. I absolutely adore him!
I have to be honest... I enjoy watching (or rather listening) to any of the girls streams when I'm interested in the game they're playing.
But with Tempus I can relate to them so much because I can see myself doing that with my friends, for example the "I studied the blade" bit or Axel exploding while trying to avoid death... I hits right home.
Speaking as a recoving Sanalite. Tempus has become somthing of a rebound for myself and i beleve quite a few others. Including people like Holocrumb, Pako and Mistle making content about Tempus. The boys themselves felt bad about the timing of their debuts being so close to a graduation but I think they were also needed to help raise spirts of us loosing our first Holo EN member.
They even tried to make sure they had no streams during Sana's graduation or if there was, they cancelled it. To this day, we still dunno if they cried during that concert (they most certainly did imo)
Same here. Tbh without Sana i had little reason to watch another streams except for collabs and such, but now I'm watching more streams than ever. I'm so happy that we have the boys.
@@sakiclips6984 Magni if i remember, he said that he cried.
@@SomeBuddy555 Awwww! That hurt me a lot! :(
@@DeterminedTorres found it. ruclips.net/video/40mm_85rPQs/видео.html
Both tempus and iluna is like opposite of vt
Of "wow this looks like all out war" But instead they act like 2 friend group that working from different company that hang out in 1 bar
As someone who was very excited for HolostarsEN and has been happily on the pulse of these wonderful boys since day 1, memes are what they absolutely ride and die by.
And I'm totally down for that
Axel really surprised me with the gap of his normal speaking voice and singing voice. His way of bringing himself really caught me off guard and keep me watching the StarsEN
I was really hype when they first announced tempus but being a unmotivated and lazy uni student that i am i initially plan to only occasionally watch some of them,but now here i am watching all 4 and trying to catch up to the vods as much as possible,they are just so fun and entertaining to watch man, honestly probably my favourite vtuber group rn
As someone who genuinely liked their designs, saw all the side content like the manga that was being put out, knew of Cover's track record in casting and saw Yagoo also magging out. I had zero doubt in my mind TEMPUS would be a success.
YAGOO supporting the boys is wholesome as hell, holy shit.
I really like how they are also interacting and giving more visibility to the old Holostar members like with Aruran, Astel, Shien and Rio
im still mad about those complainers and bullies who were actively shitting on tempus' model design like bruh that artwork is someone else's hardwork, i felt so bad for their mama's 😭😭😭
Same lol
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Before Tempus was released I had no belief they could or would succeed, and now they’re my favorite vtubers in all of Hololive
A collaboration ban to force Tempus into developing a strong identity from the beginning and a one-hour limit for the first few weeks of streaming both to pressure some sentiment of haste in their personal presentations and compressing VODs into easily digestible chunks.
All this as well as an unknown length of time spent actually playing and becoming friends with each other days, weeks, or even months prior to debuting to establish not only a strong sense of camaraderie between what is essentially now a tight-knit squad of bros with significantly varied personalites and quirks.
4 storied and well-spoken individuals with invaluavle experience in the field and a willingness to ride the line of chaos as they see fit. Each man is his own powerhouse of unique absurdity and it shows.
They were limited but through artificial obstacles were they made to develop unique and ingenious strategies of becoming something more than just a new wave of male VTubers in a saturated market and community that openly dislikes and disavows male VTubers. They didn't even need to pander to a female-oriented audience, they simp-ly fell onto their laps as good boys are want to recieve.
Tempus is Yagoo's masterwork. I pray for their sucess.
No, I know they will succeed. I just hope their efforts mark a turning point for this community.
Admittedly it was the shortest restriction in their brand's history. Typically it would be like for like a month. But the boys seem keen on collaborations that they blazed past it without the fans even noticing.
This is what Niji should have been doing with every new member/wave of talents, have them get along with themselves first and find their footing before getting along with their seniors. Really irked me with ILUNA, literally the next day they were already doing collabs with other gens and waves. They could have just have them adjust a bit more beforehand like HoloPro does.
I feel like I am part of the minority who genuinely wanted a HoloStars EN for like the longest time... and I was genuinely mega excited for their announcement. I was also extremely happy to see that they did as well as they did, as one of my friends who was initially not that interested Hololive, has given her a bit of interested in it through Holostars.
Tempus also have a solid plan by scheduling streams, collabing regularly, visiting each other's chats and passing on viewers to the next guy streaming.
I had no idea about the mixed reaction beforehand, I just watched their debuts when I discovered there were english male vtubers in hololive. I just thought they had good personalities and get along really well as a unit, absolutely bros being bros
I will admit that initially I didn't care for them and that out of the designs, Altare and Axel I preferred over Magni and Vesper. But I knew from the beginning that I was going to check them all out on debut anyway because I was very curious. Come their debuts and and I hade such a wide smile watching them. While they were all great I gravitated more towards Magni for his charisma, and Vesper for being such a genuine person.
It's to the point where I really wish they got even more attention. Their arrival to Holostars was a success, yeah, but I just think they deserve a lot more. But simultaneously, their much steadier growth probably is safer for them. It'd likely make an easier time for them to acknowledge that the fans they get are there for them rather than the brand they're under.
I wish nothing but the best for TEMPUS, and I look forward to the day the boys become senpais themselves.
... also I really do wanna see Magni box YAGOO. And Vesper play golf with YAGOO. I'd like to imagine best girl would have to do each in succession lol.
I like HoloTempus because they feel less restricted compared to Hololive, I personally am starting to watch Hololive less because everything feels so corporate-y and restricted. (I mean they are idol vtubers so idk what I expected anyways)
The thing is tempus cuss way more, talk about subjects that hololive won't touch for an example axel's harem. Axel's dick and balls. They are way less idols but more as true friends you spend time with at work or at school
Well in that case, you may want to start watching the HoloID girls for the Hololive side. These girls are also able to talk on topics HoloEN and HoloJP wouldn't even dare to touch on, things like whether or not they'll have kids in the future, or planning IRL outings with the boys from Holostars if they get the chance to go to JP, you know the drill
HoloID and Holostars imo still have the same braincell. HoloID members have no problem responding to 'fans' aggresively if they're doing misconducts
i've been into holostars for a little over a year now, and tempus is what holostars needed as a boost. i'm proud of how far everyone in holostars has come. they all deserve so much love.
Tempus was really just the bois getting a camera, sit in front of it, and do what bois do, kinda like Joey, Garnt, and Connor. You have the supposed Hero, Altare, but really a ASMR demon lord; Axel the singing maxed out single-core brain of a fury; the Maglord; and the dumpster diving zombie panties collecting Grampa Vesper. The moment Yagoo went in with the memes, and especially the Magni shirt during the Crunchyroll Expo, the community lost it. Tempus protected Yagoo's smile.
Tempus is basically like a bunch of Podcast group like Trash Taste. Their dynamic goes along really well.
Trash Taste, but with artistic, gaming, and musical skills.
Ah yes,finally someone say this,the tempus really give me TT vibes but its hard to me to describe it.
I don't think any Vtuber ever made me laugh out loud to the point of having my sides hurt like TEMPUS boys do. Once I laughed so loud I scared my poor dog lmao.
I was stopping to watch streams from the HoloEN girls or any other Vtuber, but now I tune in to the boys everytime I can. I'm really happy for them.
It also helps that it seems like Tempus management is under the same wing as HoloEN management, not their own management team like HolostarsJP. It means that the team managing Tempus already have experience managing the EN girls. Back when HolostarsJP debuted, management was practically in shambles due to lack of experience, budget, and staff. Yagoo had to personally manage the first gen Holostars himself before hiring an actual manager.
There is no confirmation of this. I could see a discord server that serves as crossover meeting for Holo and Stars EN for discussions, but that´s it.
@@MrTigracho there's no direct confirmation, but it's pretty easy to put the dots together. Both branches are under Omega, and the HoloEN girls were the only ones aware of Tempus pre-debut. Not even HolostarsJP knew about Tempus.
@@Dumdumby also explains the "open invite" ame sent for worms tournament
I wasn't really sold on the idea of HolostarsEN until Regis pulled out the cello.
I'm so looking forward to his cello streams and concerts.
@@Ellina_Crystal can't wait as well
Regis playing the cello and singing in an official concert would be legendary
ok altventurers, whip out your wallets and send him your supers.
let's face it, he's currently the weakest out of Tempus, but I have a feeling he got the job because he has other skills that would stand out. Other than the cello. It seems that when it comes to VR stuff, he is pretty knowledgable. All I could say is that his soft-spoken voice might turn off the fans, but if he becomes the backbone of starsEN for tech like how Ame did, he'd be a cornerstone soon enough. But yeah, vr is one of the most difficult to setup stream of them all.
@@carlorielmendez6505 I don't think weakest is the right word here. I think his target demographic is smaller than the rest. You know soft spoken, cheerful spirit vibe tends not attract much general Hololive audiences but rather female audiences, which nijisanji is the key player in that market. But I'm fine with that since I like diversity, also his strongest point is singing and I would like to see more of that in the future
Fan communities are great but can also be a detriment. TEMPUS proved themselves and, I think, were made that much stronger by being given a trial by fire through the brutal criticism they received prior to their debuts, as I believe you point out in this vid. One of the biggest things TEMPUS (as well as ILUNA) are a new age of VTubers who started as big fans of VTubing, instead of being traditional streamers and entertainers. I think this is a sign of a change in the tone and community. Add to that the decreasing of prices for equipment and tools to become a VTuber and, possibly (if there remains a stable global market and economy) over the next 5-10 years, we could see a New Hollywood-style rise of indies and new companies take over and dethrone the current hierarchy, and possibly be better for it. Only time will tell.
i'm gonna be honest. i was just listening to their debut streams having very low expectations but the moment Vesper mentioned the now legendary ball and his love of tea and computer hardware specifically the *satisfaction of peeling the plastic of new hardware and the smell of brand new hardware. i was hooked.
it's a really interesting parallel that both Myth & Tempus really started to kick into high gear pre-debut just through their Twitter interactions and their personality shining through those tweets, sneak-peak style
Why the bully they're just some little guys and it's their birthday, no one wants to hurt little guys like them on their birthday
I'm grateful and really happy from my bottom of heart about their succes and rises. I have mild expectation for them also really worried from begining. As holostars fan (on hiatus bcs dealing with parasocial, now i'm fine and ready back to them in near future) i have wish and hope they really last long, rises with stable and healthy fans as they are. Most of holostars JP's fans are from overseas, just look at the clip about them and the comments (especially astel roberu shien) Knowing tempus got humble home and friends in this vtuber community really bring me smiles. I hope both of them can gain and maintain more local healthy fans too. Not only overseas fans, is good tbh to have fans for around the world but quite hard if our boys have offline concert. I do thinking some ppl not really capable go to japan cause different circumtance. And if our boys not really have enough local fans, company will give them longer time or concert. Aside gachikoi i hate this too. That's why i really don't like idol concept. Holostar JP & EN, they more like homie (for any gender) we can meet through virtual with talent as singer and entertainer.
And i also love how this fanbase not really have fujo (i think?) It's not like i hate them but sometimes they disturbing me.
And last, I really hope our ex'stars jp still here with us. Wish them have live they dreamed on, healthy and happy.
Its unfortunate Kira wasn't able to hang on a bit longer, because I feel like it wasn't long after where things started looking up.
What I like about Holostars and Tempus by extension, they always felt more brotherly than outright trying to become FujoBait.
and like always, if People wanted Tempus too fail, making them as memes is actually helping them instead, as usual, Ignoring Tempus like how people did to Holostars initially was more damaging then getting memed.
Social Engineering of XXI-The power of memes.
Someone is or already made an essay on this. There is more than enough evidence for this.
Yeah, although fujo-bait IS DEFINITELY welcomed 👀
As one of few that was actually hyped about StarsEN debut, it made me sad that people were shitting on their designs and by doing that, shit on the artists that worked hard on them.
Ever since their debut, my interest in the EN girls completely vanished and safe to say, I won't be going back to them outside of KronMei fanarts. Vesper's story about that plastic ball and that you can be happy at work once in a long while is so fucking wholesome. I go back to it to see his absolute joy being in Holostars. Was pleasantly surprised that Cover dropped the Month ban after two weeks and it was after the boys got monetization and during their celebration, we got to see them being hit that they'e part of Holostars and that they're fucking grateful to those that stock through with them after being doubted about their debuts.
Watching their streams/VoDs is always fun and hilarious. Especially their collabs with each other where they just chill and talk shit to each other and most of all, be wholesome together. I mean fuck, Axel had a nightmare about Vesper being kidnapped or some shit and that he messaged Vesper right quick after waking and hoping that he's alright. So yeah, that's a big fucking friendship bond if I've ever seen. I'm so happy for them and excited to see them collab with their JP brothers, whenever they get the chance.
Edit: As Subatomo, I'll still watch Subaru and many of the JP girls. At least their chats are better than the EN girls. Sick of reading feet and among us in the en chat...
That incognito mode reference in the beginning was enough to get a like out of me. Love your videos!
I wasn't really into their concept and design when they were introduced, however, as an avid StarsJP viewers, I expected such concept from Tempus, looking at how most recent StarsJP debuts' (Trinero, Uproar) character design are geared towards a more "fantasy" based character.
However, overlooking their char. design, Tempus defies my expectations and hit the ground from their debut stream, by literally being so good at genuinely playing into their lore without being too cringey. They have a good balance between playing their characters and being relatable bros. I think their best quality is the fact that all of them focus on different content, but still provided good bridges to connect between each other. It also helps that they have the vibe of chill bros hanging out with each other. It sorta make it easy to follow their content without having to fall into a specific niche.
Tbh, numbers might not reflect the level of success that Tempus has reached, if you compare to Iluna. However, given they actually have a strong core fanbase, I can see them growing more steadily in the upcoming days. It's really interesting to see which direction they would go.
when it comes to support, Tempus has a stronger supachat baseline totals nowadays. for a newbie vtuber, supas are a strong source of income (VOD ads can bring in money but for that, I don't have the numbers in front). Ren Zotto, surprisingly, has a weak superchat history (I double checked, he caught up on the average for iluna but he has a very weak supa number last week). Scarle only hit her stride the past few weeks as their gen's top supa, from a very weak viewership the prior weeks, which I am very happy for her.
So yeah, there are many ways to support the boys, but for hard earned money, Tempus is leading in terms of 1 month in supa numbers, with vesper blazing the trail.
@@carlorielmendez6505 Adding to this comment, it seems like Holostars EN has a much older audience than Illuna, which probably contributes to their relatively high supachat rate. A group of 20-40 year olds supporting Vesper will have much more disposable income than teen to twenty somethings following Iluna. At least that is my theory (on top of their already noted skill and chemistry)
Hope this would serve as bridge for more wholesome Boys Interaction with the other Holo Stars Boys, Man I didn't expect to love Vespie gramps and his wholesome story about his dumpster dives ventures and his Dad joke's
i never thought i would like male vtuuber but damn holotempus was legit like watching bros on stream seeing jp holostars also posting their underwear pic also made me intrested to watch their stream cuz they also seem like bros