The Most Mysterious Mental Disorder In Sports
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You're part of the problem.
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Thank you for using the word irony correctly
I caught the yips as a pitcher in high school and man, they are just brutal. I used to have excellent accuracy and would almost never walk a batter. Then one morning I woke up and literally forgot how to throw a baseball. It was the weirdest feeling ever. My arm felt clunky and awkward, almost like trying to throw with your opposite hand. I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn and lost a lot of velocity too. At some points I was honestly nervous about throwing the ball over the backstop, it was that bad. The worst part was that none of my teammates or coaches understood and just assumed I sucked. The whole experience was so frustrating and embarrassing that I lost my love for the game and ended up quitting. If anyone else out there is going through the yips right now, I feel for you. They are no joke.
Dude, same experience for me happened freshman year of high school. I was a decent catcher with good mechanics and blocking, but I would get such nerves from throwing the ball back to the pitcher or down the first baseline. Ended up getting cut going into JV but it was so demoralizing just trying to get through warmups when I would fret over every throw.
Same here. Happened in hs, I threw 2 balls over the umpire in the middle of the game and could never find it again. I tried a few things and could finally hit the plate throwing super slow so I just stopped pitching. My primary position was first base so I just went and stayed there. It even affected my batting.
I haven’t played baseball in a long time, but i used to be a pitcher and I was pretty good at it. Since around 2 or 3 years ago I haven’t been able to throw a ball straight. It either goes into the ground or 30 feet plus in the air. I can’t seem to let go of the ball at the right time.
I got drafted from the braves and needless to say, my pro career was darkened by yips. It’s not just losing mechanics, your whole approach to the plate is washed. I’ve never been so scared that I was gonna strikeout, and I constantly felt like I wasn’t improving. On top of that there was this 17 year old kid named Ozzie Albies who was growing so fast that I just felt not good enough. When in reality, I made it there which proved I was. I wish I had the same mindset today, than I did those two years.
Never too late to take a shot at independent ball and work your way back brother, never give up on the dream!
What is your name??
Theres alot of players that go from good hitters to ones cant hit a lick anymore
Theres one of these oh yea i can relate stories at the top of the comments on every video and i know some of yall are lying and thats weird as hell😭
Just got the yips this year in college. Terrible experience, especially when everyone you talk to in the baseball world just gives you the “oh well” look. Sometimes they can’t be fully recovered from. I almost broke three metal bats trying to find my mechanics again. Thankfully my friend helped me get through it. Thanks for making a video on this.
How'd you get through it
No one cares
For me, I took a break from swinging for a little bit, hit the gym some more, and then got back into it when I was home. The familiarity of my home cage I think helped me out.
@@mattsupachat5962 I do
@@mattsupachat5962 who hurt you?
I got the yips on short throws when I was a freshman in high school. I rarely play anymore so I can't say I still have it and it would fluctuate in severity when I was playing, but it really is a terrible experience. I think the thought of repeating the failure becomes so traumatizing you can't help but repeat it. Great video!
As a sophomore and just had the yips in my freshman year of high school at the beginning of the season. We would throw inside and it started off well but the third practice I physically could not throw and I hit a dude three times next to me. I thought really nothing of it but as the next week of throwing in the gym I could not throw and I physically did everything to stop it and I tried not thinking lobbing it and throwing it as hard as I can, changing arm angle etc.. they would tell me just breath and relax but nothing worked. But all it took for me was to throw against a wall everyday before I pull throw. Idk why it worked but now a days I can throw perfectly fine.
I feel ya man. Same thing happened to me. I can throw lasers from the outfield but as a catcher I’d struggle throwing the ball back to the pitcher. Man it sucked and lead to some embarrassing moments and was a big reason I quit baseball all together
No one cares
Always enjoyed the 1st baseman’s reaction when 2nd rifles one into the dirt😂
I got the yips in middle school travel ball. I was a really good third baseman in terms of fielding but one day I just stopped being able to throw the ball across the field. I got moved to the outfield and hardly ever made any bad throws.
As far as things go now, I’m almost 28 now so 15 years later I still can’t make throws to 1st from 3rd in freaking slow pitch softball. I guess I’ve still got them lol
Wow thank you for this video! I’ve been a Red Sox fan for over 20 years and I vividly recall when they first drafted Daniel Bard, and how incredibly high the expectations were.
You didn’t really mention it too much in this video but they *totally* rushed him up to the big leagues, in part because he was already 22 years old and had a full successful career as a college pitcher, and the thinking was that he wouldn’t need that much seasoning in the minors. Which is why he was pitching in the big leagues after *barely* more than two seasons in the farm system.
I always thought that it was deeply unwise to rush him along like that, and if he’d actually been allowed to spend a proper 3-4 seasons working his way through the system he wouldn’t have mentally collapsed the way that he did, ultimately.
So happy to see him thriving out here in Denver, though. If anyone deserves a second chance it was Bard.
Hell yeah and he’s such a factor for the Rockies 17 years later. Great point how pitchers especially ones like Bard need some time to develop and get comfortable in the bigs which takes YEARS
This is gonna be a good one! Such an odd thing. I suffered from it and never recovered.
I was a junior college closer where I had success and sat 90-93. I went on to play D2 baseball where my yips began in the fall offseason - I couldn’t find the strike zone even if I wanted to my mechanics felt off every time I touched the mound and eventually lead to me getting my first ucl tear. I went through rehab thinking it would fix all my problems but when I got healthy to play my problems throwing strikes got worse my velocity on my fastball went down to 83-85 then I got injured again and needed Tommy John surgery. My senior year I had one last outting after getting healthy again where I was 87-88 with my fastball. But I never got my velocity or command back or comfortable in my mechanics. Thank you for making this video I don’t think enough people understand how hard this is mentally on players I wanted to quit and give up countless times bc I felt helpless. For anyone experiencing the yips talk and ask for help from coaches and mental coaches aswell.
In Sports Pyschology, the yips can also be referred to as an overthinking of the body’s motor control movements. The mind is so stressed that it cannot enter a flow state and you are thinking of every muscle, bone and joint moving, making already known movements, immensely difficult
This is exactly the way I feel with basketball, and well, everything at the moment. I have some kind of mysterious muscle disorder I am having trouble getting diagnosed. But because of extremely tight joints/tendons, muscle weakness and deterioration, I have to “manually” control every muscle and limb movement with my conscious thoughts. It sucks. I can barely exercise anymore….exercise intolerance.
I was a really good QB at my high school. I started every game with the freshman team and I showed the coaches I was good enough to replace the senior QB on varsity when he graduated and I became a sophomore. I did great my first varsity game we won and I threw 2 TD’s. My next game was a road game and it was the worst game I ever played. Threw 4ints and 2 pick sixes. I tried to dismiss it as a fluke but I struggled with my accuracy for the rest of the season. There were times I literally couldn’t make the easiest of throws and every choice I was making was turning out horrible. I was benched in the 4th game of the year but I got to play in the second to last game because the QB ahead of me got hurt. It didn’t go well. I got my job back senior year, didn’t win most of our games but I stopped throwing the ball to the other team, mostly…😂
No one cares. Everything doesn’t have to be about you
😂😂😂😂😂😂 I really respect that you own it I’m not laughin at you I’m laughing with you. Most these comments are people making excuses imo, you’re not one of them.
I can definitley sympathise with those who have or had the yips. Last season, In about the 6 games I played as an infielder before I got injured, I made 0 outs at 1st and threw away the majority of my attempts, even though I could pinpoint my throws every training session and every warmup. The worst part was my defense was the only thing keeping me on the starting lineup, that season, every ball that came off my bat was either a groundout or a flyout. Adding a rotator cuff injury on top of this situation had taken me to the darkest corners of my mind. I woke up every day thinking about all the errors I made and I couldnt stand even looking at my own gear without despising baseball. I stopped watching baseball entirely and cut myself off from the sport completely.
However, after coming across pitching ninja, I was inspired to become a pitcher, which helped me redsicover my love for baseball. I decided to practice pitching in my backyard and eventually asked my coach to pitch.
2 weeks ago I pitched my first game as a closer, and picked up a save. Somehow i miraculously managed to throw 10 consecutive strikes despite my limited experience as a pitcher and my past history with throwing in general.
Im telling my story now so if youre are in a similar spot as I or anyone in this video was, I strongly reccomend you not give up, and just take a break instead of immediatley thinking that youre not good enough and quit the sport.
The yips are a fairly obvious thing to me. In times where the stakes are high, people become so self-aware that they can't rely on usually automatic processes. It happens to me when I'm trying to move around at heights, kind of a muscle lock that goes along with acrophobia, knowing that a wrong move might slip me up and get me hurt or worse. It's about the nature of attention, and it should be in a different class of mental disorder. It's not irrational. Thinking harder about what you do in monumental moments makes perfect sense. It just happens to be disastrous when what you need to do is execute an action that's usually automatic.
I got the yips when it was just tossing the ball around. On a bang bang throw from the outfield to throw out a runner I could throw it just fine, but a regular "non pressure" throw the ball would sail in every direction but the intended target.
Totally understand this. Lost the ability to throw short distances during catching tryouts. Got stuck in the outfield and could throw fine. To this day I still have the yips playing casual catch but am fine throwing longer distance or on the move.
It’s a really crazy thing to experience. It’s your brain like legit on overkill. As soon as it starts and happens consecutive times, you’re already in your own head.
You forgot about Mackey Sasser. He was a catcher who had trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher. He would pad the ball back into his mitt 2-4 times before he was able to throw it back to the pitcher.
Came here to say this. His was the most interesting, because he could still fire it down when a play was on, but couldn't deal with throwing it back to the pitcher. The strangest occurrence was when he would have the ball in his hand, pump it like he was about to throw, but then wouldn't release it. Had the effect of looking like he was waving at the pitcher.
@@tvtitlechampion3238 I'm pretty sure his yips came after a collision at the plate. I think he got rocked and was never the same afterward.
@@skiprockjr.6881 maybe some kind of PTSD, then. The human condition is curious thing.
As a Cards fan, it was heartbreaking seeing Rick Ankiel throwing all those wild pitches. It's so damn dope that he was able to thrive at another position to where he's a beloved player of our historic franchise
and a proven PED user
I suffered from this greatly in college and lost my scholarship back in 08, I was blessed to find YT videos of guys like Joe Smith and Brad Zeigler and thank God. I converted to sidearm-sub and saved my career and changed literally how I see life. As someone who hasn't summed up the gusto to Google "who else forgot how to throw a baseball out of knowhere" THANK YOU so much for making this video MTC!
Check my comments that small grade of TOS may be the underlying cause for yips.
Daniel Bard was a beast during his breakout seasons with the Red Sox. There were even discussions about his role being more critical than the closer's role as he is tasked with pitching the most critical innings of the game - even coming in with runners on the bases. The Chicken and Beer fiasco turned out to be just the beginning of the end for that version of Daniel Bard. Good thing he was able to overcome the yips and return to the Majors.
I still play adult ball in my mid 30’s and have suffered from the yips my entire life. As a catcher throwing the ball back was always my biggest fear but making a throw down to second was never a problem. If I had a play where I didn’t have time to think I could fire a seed. Give me a chance to think and it it’s all over.
To me, at the point where you’re just about to release the ball a thought pops into my head, “don’t over throw”. That would cause me to hit the brakes on my throw and I’d still end up throwing a rainbow over the pitcher or toss it short. I’m always honest with my team and I tell the pitchers it helps if they come in a few steps. It’s maddening.
I had this as a catcher growing up! I started off as a center fielder and did really well. Because of this i was eventually moved behind the plate.
Kinda got a feel of the whole game and now as captain despite it being my first year at this position with this specific leadership role I was excited.
Something about being able to throw a a ball on an absolute zip without thinking is straight instinct for us Baseball players.
We could whip that mask off real quick and not even hesitate when it came to releasing it on a rope towards second.
We could find ways to keep wild pitches from being not so wild with quick reflexes when that ball takes a bad bounce and pops up from the dirt.
That wild pitch alone is another bad pitch closer from turning your pitchers confidence
washed. Yet it’s instinct for us.
If your pitcher is struggling it’s our job to go out their and tell him that he’s got this. It’s our job. We can block the plate and slap a tag down on someone without thought…not even flinching yet when things slow down and I need to get that ball back to my guy on the mound? One game I couldn’t reach him AT ALL. AT ALL.
Who’s gonna come settle me down? What is their to settle? It’s not wild…I can’t reach the guy on the mound.
What the fuck man. I was brutally short on a number of different occasions. It was bizarre.
Catchers are important. I try n tell my little cousins how much fun I had and how much of an impact you can make.
Great years but it really is the little things like this that get athletes all caught up.
It’s almost like my subconscious took over and my arm would just go stiff.
I somehow knew I might not reach him again yet I’m throwing it. My body just kinda took over.
Yet any other day your coach is complimenting that rifle we got planned for teams this season during practice when someone is thinking about stealing 2nd come first pitch.
Damn man. Very strange.
I fuckin loved being a catcher though! That position is FIRE.
Starting catcher for the all star game in my babe Ruth league and the short stop took a cut off throw from the left fielder.
This kid was looking to score from 1st on someone else’s gapper of an eventual triple.
The Short stop on my all star team was actually a kid I had fought in my first ever fist fight years prior lol.
His boys said I won but the kid def earned my respect!
Anyway, that same kid threw an absolute BULLET from cut off at short right into my glove at home and buddy coming from first to home didn’t even slide! He thought he was running on in no problem.
That kid at short delivering that straight 🎯 despite our past history was a sick little moment tbh. I loved that shit. In the moment catchers are just ready!
The Kid running in at full fucking speed almost took off my wrist/hand from his momentum but you already know i kept that ball in my mitt baby. It’s what we do!
The ump thought it was sick to see up close. Def one of my favorite plays ever during my baseball years. Loved that position man.
I used to play competitive golf. Not pro level, but a good amateur (low single digit handicap). I got away from the game after kids came along, then took it back up 25 years later. I came back with intermittent yips. My arms, mainly the forearms, would suddenly spasm at certain points in the swing. It affected chip shots, fairway shots and drives, but left my putting unscathed (interestingly, the most common affliction).
It was strange to go along through six holes of golf even par, then, just like that, take a quadruple bogey because your arms just had a mind of their own for a few minutes. Typically, after the yips hit, they'd leave for weeks, then unexpectedly return. At one point I hit three straight fairway shots straight down into the ground, leaving huge divots each time and barely moving the ball. I took months off after the third of these sprained my wrist. Took about six months to heal.
Check my comments that small grade of TOS may be the underlying cause for yips.
As a coach for little league baseball, who pitched all his days as a teen. I to came across the yips myself as I couldn’t throw a strike for simple batting practice. It was so bad I was throwing behind the kids. Because of this I became a student of yips and googled, researched as much as I could. And well unfortunately my step son got the yips and even though he was a phenomenal pitcher he couldn’t have a simple catch. I helped him overcome it but it wasn’t easy. Please if anyone is struggling I might be able to help. And my heart goes out to all that do struggle with yips. Exactly what Mr. Byrd said you had to think about the basics of throwing just like having to think like walking he’s right but he’s wrong. He needed to think with the opposite side of the brain not the imagination side of not being able to throw a strike and all the fans laughing at him.
Check my comments that small grade of TOS may be the underlying cause for yips.
I'm a musician and I was playing a job with my band about five years ago. Suddenly, the bass completely stopped playing. I turned over and saw the bassist just sitting there staring. As soon as I had the opportunity, I went over to talk to her. She simply said "I forgot how to play the bass." I thought she might be having a stroke or something so I got ready to call 911 but she told me she was fine, and I noticed her speech was normal and she had normal motor skills. She asked for a few minutes to figure it out and about 10 mins later she was back to normal. It was a one time thing. She doesn't like to talk about it but she just says that it was a horrible and confusing feeling. Yips come in many forms I guess. Who knows what it is. Maybe it's like when you keep saying or hearing one particular word over and over and it starts to lose its meaning. It starts to sound kind of funny and hard to pronounce even though you've known the word for your entire life, when you start to overthink something that comes naturally to you.
I’m an operatic tenor and I had trouble with singing high notes - my bread and butter - from fall of 2018 to early 2019. I suppose it’s a little like yips. I just remember thinking “go back to the basics and start small”. I got a new teacher in 2019 and that helped a lot. Now I’ve got top tier high notes haha
Mackie Sasser syndrome. He had issues throwing back to the pitcher which ruined his career as a catcher. Had the pleasure of him being my head coach at Wallace Community College in Dothan, AL.
Love your videos...Catcher Mackey Sasser got the yips and had issues throwing back to the pitcher...drove managers (and pitchers) nuts.
I had (still have, sometimes) the yips. Baseball was my entire life and one day my brain forgot how to throw a ball. Worst feeling ever, it's like having a panic attack in front of a bunch of people. I'm still not back to 100% and probably never will be. Glad people are talking about it though, when I had the yips in the early 2000's I was not confident enough to mention it to any coaches or anything.
Check my comments that small grade of TOS may be the underlying cause for yips.
The tips ended my time in baseball. I always prided myself on my defense. I had a cannon of an arm, would go full out for each play, and was smooth as butter. With this, I spent most of high school at third. Come my Junior year, something broke down. Felt like I was pushing the ball to first. Coach moved me to short full time as I could handle the range it demanded, and the throw could be shorter. Still was wild to first. Eventually moved me to second, still no luck. Wasn’t until I was moved to right field that I had some sense of normalcy. I guess the idea of chucking the ball as hard as you can from the outfield really does help with accuracy. Spent most of my time in the outfield corners before graduating but it’s a shame I didn’t even try to go play in college. I was good enough to, especially at the D-3 school I went to, but because of what happened, I just ended up throwing baseball away, afraid of the yips showing up again.
No one cares. Everything doesn’t have to be about you
the yips ruined my love for lacrosse my favorite sports growing up
@@jakeh_13 no one cares
Had the yips in high school ball. Forgot how to throw a ball. Would just go straight into the ground or 20ft above anyone’s head. Still fucks with me till this day even tho I ended up playing the rest of that season and the year after with no issues. In the back of my mind it can still happen at any moment and makes me nervous to play ball cause I’m not tryna embarrass myself and throw a crazy ball. Happened once after highschool in college intramural, but currently playing some softball now and all is good. It’s a snowball effect, it happens once and feels like it wont stop and sorta doesn’t. Biggest thing that helps is being in a mindset of relaxation and not putting pressure on yourself. Easier said than done but coming back from the yips is possible.
Check my comments that small grade of TOS may be the underlying cause for yips.
I was at the playoff game where Ankiel broke the mlb record for wild pitches AND at the game 7 years later where he hit a HR in his first game with the Cards as an outfielder. The return was incredible.
Fun fact my dad was actually friends with chuck as a kid and used to bike with him and go to astroworld a water park. They once were on a little league team and he said that he was by far the best player he saw in 8th grade.
I’m surprised Dontrelle Willis didn’t get mentioned. He was so fun to watch before he lost the ability to find the strike zone.
I got the yips, as a catcher, throwing the ball back to the pitcher. I was an elite player, looking at D1 colleges. I stopped playing for awhile, then started playing third. Finally, when I was able to get past it, I was never the same. It was such an embarrassing experience
Yo, this was a solid video. I enjoy when you make content like this
Steve Sax went through the same thing as Chuck Knoblauch. Rookie of the Year, All Star second baseman, then he suddenly couldn't throw to first.
I had a strange case of the yips once. When I was on the mound I could throw strikes and everything was normal. When a ground ball was hit to me, I could NOT throw it to first. It was the strangest thing.
Back in high school I picked up pitching snd very quickly developed a great changeup and curveball that made me a pretty good pitcher. I went on vacation for a week and didnt throw. That movement on the changeup never came back.
Anxiety and panic disorders issues made me lose my scholarship to pitch at the University of Arkansas. It’s truly the worst experience one could imagine
You weren't cut out for the stress of high level, competetive sports.
@@itheuserfirst3186 and your an absolute nobody.
Pirates pitcher Steve Blass might be the most amazing example. Also, Yips ended my high school career. Couldn’t warm up without someone ducking!!!!!
I got the yips junior year of high school. Only happened while playing catch. I hated it so much, i leaned an old mattress against the wall in my basement and threw probably about 1000 times in a week. All that didnt really help until i started throwing a basketball. I basically cured me, and i went on to have the best defensive season of my life.
No one cares. Everything doesn’t have to be about you
I have thousands of hours of tennis under my belt I have been there with yips. Having no control of your wrists and arms in tennis that requires very fine motor skills. Your arm is staccato, lost feelings in the arm, wrist, and the movement of the swing. You start overthinking, looking over your mechanics, losing what was automatic, and thinking the problem is subconscious. When it is happening it is embarrassing, shameful and creates anxiety. It is devastating and takes all the fun out of the game and you're likely to quit with no confidence in the game. For many it is career-ending. After years of discovering my problem, I found it was not in my head. It's not bad psyche or anything to do with mental toughness. My answer was a small grade of TOS. A TOS you never notice in your daily life. Nervousness causes muscle tension that makes the symptoms of TOS worse and then you're in a bad loop with a feeling of shame, embarrassment, and anxiety losing even more motor skills. You can not breathe slowly out of that. The solutions are therapy over time with trigger point release and stretching where TOS usually are caused. There are tons of RUclips videos of this. 8 places in your body, working from your SCM and Scalenes, 1 rib to your elbows and wrists. How did I figure out? Yips from professional baseball players who solved their "mental" and yips issues with a 1 rib surgery operation for TOS, fixed just like that overnight. Why should players suddenly lose a skill that has been done millions of times before and get fixed after an operation? It only happens to people that have done the mechanics thousands of times. It is caused by straining your body to a grade of TOS. So I started releasing muscles in my neck tight SCM and Scalenes etc. Afterwards I Have not experienced yips since. I sometimes get nervous, but I don't go jelly in my arms and wrists and loose total control. I think that is the cause and could help musicians, players in golf, tennis, baseball etc, and surgeons. Psychiatrists, NLP coaches, TFT therapists etc could help, changing mechanics etc, but not solve it from the ground up. There is very little research on this and I think the professionals in white coats are not even close to fixing this problem. That is my these and I hope someone will research this. Even TOS itself is vastly misunderstood. You can have a grade of it. It is not binary. Ref: msk neurology.
I still remember when my favourite player of all time developed the yips, it was for tennis tho. I still remember watching Glen Quagmire in September 11th in 2001 of the us open where he fucked up two serves in new york city due to his development of the condition. Never saw him play tennis ever again
It's akin to aerodynamic "flutter." An athlete keeps overcorrecting and recalibrating their throwing/hitting motion until it totally destabilizes, and they have to mentally start those neurological connections all over again nearly from scratch. Too much overcorrection leads to higher and higher stress levels that just aren't worth it without a complete overhaul.
Facing Garrit Cole can cause anxiety unless you're the Rays.
Theres a reason Draft Kings can pay you 5 figures for a minute long ad and its because mofos be losing like crazy. Can no one see how allowing this level of sports betting is going to corrupt sports? Or are you blinded by the fact that your partnership with them will make you a millionaire at the expense of your subscribers.
The thing that sparked my yips was hitting three batters in a row and getting yelled at by the other fans, followed by me blowing up and not being able to hit the catcher in a later appearance in a playoff game with my whole school watching.
The craziest part was that in between these two outings (which were the beginning of a longer struggle with the yips) was that I closed out a one run game against our rivals and was brought in with runners on base.
I didn't throw a single strike in these warmups but got lucky and threw a strike first pitch, and it was almost like that allowed my body to relax and let the ball go.
Having the yips feels like someone is grabbing your arm while you are trying to throw, like you are in fight or flight mode and your body tenses to the point it forgets how to naturally move. I relate to Rick Ankiel because even at my worst moments on the mound where I couldn't even hit the catcher, I could throw a perfect strike from the outfield. It truly is bizarre
No one cares. Everything doesn’t have to be about you
I didn’t know there was a term for this, I had it really bad for baseball.
I was always a good pitcher and infielder with decent hitting, one year I just started making random errors like missing soft ground balls or suddenly not being able to make throws from short to first. Hitting I went from a lock at the 1 or 2 spot to me basically having to pray for walks cause I just could not hit the ball. Only thing I could still do well was pitch, but me just not being able to do anything else I normally did with ease made it really stressful.
Come practice everything would be fine, I’d be back to fielding as normal and hitting well. Just something about the actual games had me stumped out of nowhere.
It was just embarrassing and frustrating as I had always been consistent and cool under pressure before. Ended up just quitting and hating the sport for years afterwards
Your story sounds so familiar… Especially about being OK during practice and in my case, I was new to my high school as a junior and excelled when I had to try out.
I’m probably a lot older than you… This was in the 70s and I still think about it from time to time. I was an all-star second baseman in Little League but when we moved up to the bigger diamond, if I had to play shortstop or second base, I was petrified. You know” please don’t hit it to me.” A scout came to one of our games to check out one of our pitchers, I was playing shortstop. During infield practice before the game, I was picking up everything, I had a bullet arm. Then the game started. I made five errors in the first two innings, three of them throwing. I’ll never forget the way our pitcher glared at me from the mound.
I got comfortable at third base as long as I could play in. They were bang bang plays and didn’t have enough time to think. Made a lot of diving stops and looked incredible.
But When the coach moved me back or over toward shortstop, the anxiety came back. Also did not like to play in front of my parents or relatives. By the way, I never had the yipps at the plate only in the field.
Anyway… I just came to believe I wasn’t good enough. Back in those days they use the word choke… Or he choked and you could get stuck with that label. Sometimes I wish I could go back and rethink all that. Here’s to hoping that some kid with the ability won’t let something like this stop them.
In darts its called Dartitius, the strange feeling where you cannot let go of your darts, or you have no control throwing them. Such a horrible thing to go through
I play guitar, haven't played any sports since I was a kid but I know that when I'm playing a guitar or piano- the second my mind has a thought like "I'm killin it" or thinks ahead of where I am in the song, I totally mess up. Maybe the yip are something similar to that? Something you've done thousands of times thrown off by the simple act of thinking about it.
The yips were briefly talked about in Ted Lasso, but they presented it as more of a mental problem. I know that it's a fictionalization, but for a lot of people this could be their first (or even only) exposure to the phenomenon.
In little league, I was a pretty great short stop fielding all ground balls and zinging throws to first. One day my coach said I don't need to throw so hard to first. From there I was fucked. I lightened up and started missing throws. Worried I'd miss I wouldn't throw hard. It got so bad I moved to first base which I excelled at as no one possessed the flexibility I did. In slow pitch softball I play the outfield. Throwing hard and at distance helps with accuracy. But throwing to someone 30 feet away is tough. Especially if they are good enough to catch a 60mph throw at that distance. Sometimes i can't get the ball out of my hand. It sucks.
Not a high level baseball player but I am a high level golfer and I’ve seen players (mostly older 30+) completely lose all touch on the green. I don’t know what it is but the ability for them to make a smooth stroke disappears as soon as they have intent to hit the ball. Practice strokes are fine but as soon as the ball comes into play their brain can’t do it. Wild phenomenon
I had the yips in my freshman year of high school. I couldn’t throw a ball and I didn’t know why. It was scary. When summer began, I overcame it but decided to quit.
"..........unless you're Shaq." LOL
I’m getting over the yips for the 3rd time in my baseball career. It’s such a terrible thing to not be able to control how you throw the ball when it’s such an easy task
You’ve either got to fall back on a checklist to fix the bugs in your mental software or just fully reboot by walking away for a while. Sucks if you’re relying on your abilities to pay your bills since walking away to reboot has financial consequences
There's something deeply ironic about reading an ad about betting on sports in a video like this. I didn't watch it because I have SponsorBlock, but I put it together with the 18 different mentions of draftkings in the description and comments.
Actually, there is absolutely NOTHING ironic about the Draft Kings ad! if you watch ANY sports related content on RUclips at all, you would realize Draft Kings is one of the bigger sponsors on RUclips! Its hard to find any sports-related channels that do NOT advertise Draft Kings!
@@inconnu4961 I don't think ironic means what you think it means my brother.
Also nobody should be that enthusiastic about a corporation for free. Or even not for free. Best work on that one, buddy.
Always impressed how Rick Ankiel reinvented himself
The irony of a video about mental health containing an ad for gambling is next level.
Really loving these style videos !!
Got the yips on 8-Ball in billards... Everything broke down came the black ball to finish. Even easy straight shots I missed "by a mile"... I cured it with beer ;-)
I had the yips horribly two years ago couldn’t make it half way to the pitchers mound, the ball just feels strange in the hands and you feel helpless. It was difficult to overcome so when they started to come back 3 weeks ago I thought it was over. But my old strategy worked again
What I did was go to a fence or open field close your eyes and fire it do it over and over again with no regard for where the ball goes, then when you start playing catch celebrate all the little wins I made it to him it was on the right line etc. just like when you miss a put in golf and your friend tries to cheer you up. Do this to the point of it being silly I would litterally say to myself your the best in the game if i lobbed it anywhere close him, it will come back and then it is just a mental battle.
Also keep a ball in your hand and flip it into your glove when not playing anything to bring back the muscle memory
I got the yips during this past year in my sophomore szn in high school playing basketball. I started varsity, and the pressure got to me especially in a slump. I forgot completely how to shoot like I had been and spent hours and hours trying to get back. Thankfully, I got through the yips and finished the second half of my year strong and continue it into next year
No one cares. Everything doesn’t have to be about you
Got the yips when I was a catcher, just couldn’t stop dropping pitches, and blinking my eyes at bat swings. Never got over it in High school.
Before you get into any profession you should take a mental evaluation of yourself and see if u can handle the pressure
As a kid i played baseball basketball and football and out of all of them the ONE sport that could randomly go to hell real quick and it was in ur head was baseball. And pitchers definitely have it the worst. I remember pitching as a teenager having a great game and 1 hit turns into a complete collapse.
"It's mysterious illness"
Describes Burnout 😌
I had the yips last year. I was always scared to throw the baseball. Everyone was just like throw the ball, and I’m like I can’t. I don’t know what happened. The simple solution that helped me was to stop throwing for 2 months. Took a break. Then my mechanics and throwing came right back. I’m throwing the ball way better now.
Wow It’s so powerful what can happen in the mind It’s painful to watch anyone go through it
The worst case of the yipps was 2000 or so...it happened in a playoff game for the st. Louis Cardinals.
The stud rookie pitcher Rick Ankiel forgot how to throw the ball correctly during a playoff game. He lost them the game, then couldn't pitch again .
A few years later, he figured out how to hit, and made it back to the St Louis Cardinals as an outfielder.
He nearly won a gold glove in the outfield, and had a season with 20 or more homeruns.
He was kind of like the preview to shohei ohtani.... Just doing each craft independently and not all at the same time
Worst yips I ever had was college ball. I went 0-35 in over a month… every time going up to bat I would be in my own head saying this is it, I’m getting out of my slump. Baseball is beyond mental. It’s a team game but at the plate it’s you and yourself. Needless to say I got out of it and hit the walk off run to win our title that year after going 0-35 near the end of the season.
It’s not quite the same, but I got the yips with drawing. I was never amazing, I was always more a video chick than artist, but one day I just stopped being able to draw anything that looked like anything. I went from having occasional pieces in art shows to barely able to do stick men and it _sucks_.
Bernhard Langer got the yips, real bad, with his putting, during what should have been his prime. He went through more weird putting styles and grips. As it was, he won his second Masters post yips, but given how he has continued to be a great player into his 60s, I’ve always thought he could have done so much more when he was younger, given that he was one of the early fitness freaks in golf.
One hypothesis for the cause points to a change in fitness regimen that changes access to previous muscle-memory.
I was plagued with it summer 2021. The one where it would feel like the ball would just stick to my fingers. Could not throw the ball from second on a routine ball but could easily take a ball from short on a double play or a diving play. Got over it by fall but it was always a lingering fear.
It partly played into the fact that I was slumping at the plate since when I played I was an heavy offense first second / third basemen.
Biggest thing was telling myself that I am here in college for a reason and nothing will take that away and then when that mental confidence rose, and I started raking at the plate again the throwing yips disappeared.
No one cares. Everything doesn’t have to be about you
I was gonna say i dealt with the yips as a little league player. I went from second base to a corner outfield/bench spot for 2 years before I remembered how to throw but your sellout to the Lords of Sports betting fake “gurus” pissed me off so I forgot..
I mean, the yips makes complete sense. Your brain will take over other parts of your brain to achieve better skills in one area or another. The perfect example is when a guitarist does an insane solo (think Steve Vai) and does really silly faces. So why can't being overly skilled in throwing be taking over parts of your movement area of the brain that you don't want it to, such as your step being off a half inch causing anxiety and discomfort.
You can lose these types of movement issues by not doing the action for a long time. I used to strain my neck when I would drum for extended periods of time at fast bpm. I stopped drumming for a year. I went back and noticed my neck relaxed.
In theory, the same could apply to something as simple (or complex) as the yips. Thus, not allowing someone to do any playing for a while should reset the brain a bit.
Keep in mind, this is a theory based off of what I've learned about the brain in college with movement. (I know basics. That's all)
I've got the golf yips right now. Used to be able to crush it with my driver but now all I can do is a hard curve to the left. I think my baseball swing has corrupted my golf swing, and that I twist the golf club as I swing, but I can't seem to do anything about it.
I think I had the YIPs in 8th grade basketball. I was the first pick and from day one after tryouts I felt a lot of pressure to do good and then just played like shit. I also had a coach that would crack jokes about where I grew up and joke on my shoes I bought. He was an asshole often.
cant believe you dropped that ad right there 💀💀💀💀
Yips is performance anxiety, plain and simple. Probably the most widespread from of yips among men that no one talks about is erectile dysfunction. Most common because it affects all men, not just top athletes. You guys can laugh if you want, but you all know what I'm talking about.
Remember what I said on Twitter, when a man is able to talk about mental health, incredible things will happen.
Caused me to quit high school baseball. Couldn’t make a throw playing second base. Years later I will still spike a ball into the ground every now and then
I lost my flat power serve in tennis. I could not get it over the net. Still can't. I developed a nasty kick serve instead but I miss those aces up the middle...
He took a job as a mental skills coach??? After dealing with the yips??? 😂
As a former fan of the game, I can say I am familiar with most of these players. The one that stands out the most is Wohlers. As a Braves fan I remember that 96 series against the Yankees and how much I thought we had it. When he gave up that homer to Leiritz (mispelled) in game five I believe, it crushed me. He was such a great pitcher during the year and to see it fall apart in the biggest game of the year hurt.
3:10 i thought the pitcher was the one with the yips lmfao but the batter swung right through it
I had the yips throwing in baseball in high school. Unexplainable
I got the yips my third spring training… couldn’t throw the ball less than 90% to any base or during drills. If I did say in a come backer drill I’d throw the ball 10 feet over the head of the first baseman. I took mushrooms 🍄 (7 dried grams) and the yips vanished. So trip see if it cures the issue
Mackey Sasser for the Mets in 89 couldn't throw the ball back to the pitcher... prolly my most obvious example of watching the yips imo
Markelle Fultz had the yips when he was drafted to the 76ers, number 1 overall pick forgot how to shoot.
The yips aren't some mystical thing that can't be explained, it's literally getting in your own head. Games like baseball and golf that are slower paced you have way more time to think, which means you have way more time to psych yourself out. It does happen in other games like basketball and football, but it's less common because of how intense and quick paced they are.
18:22 is why dealing with it at a serious level changes who you are as a human. You're fighting a 1 man war against a monster you can't touch. Nobody can solve the problem, and nobody will cut you any slack for having the problem.
The "slack" is letting you take a break until you get ahold of yourself physically and are able to perform. Sometimes, if you're struggling, it's better to say "I need to take a break" then to wait until you get sent down to the minors
162 games a year is gruesome, just as today I watched angels after their 2 day-off, they were hitting it. those players needs several days off
I had the yips in basketball. For some reason well into my late 20 and early 30s I could not consistently make lay ups. This came out of nowhere. It got so bad, I feared getting fast breaks because it was 50/50 in making or blowing the lay up. Over the years it's gotten better but it still shows up every so often.
Check my comments that small grade of TOS may be the underlying cause for yips.
Knobloch for the Yankees played second base
He went through time where he couldn't throw to first base
Overthrowing
Your phrasing made it sound like Lester threw his entire glove to 1B after bunts, but both instances were hard hits up the middle that he caught and couldn’t get out of his glove.
As soon as you stop having fun….. Thays when the yips get you. It can come on over time or it can happen instantly. It’s all in the mind at that point.
I quit high school baseball because of this. Moved from ss, to 2b and still was tossing it over 1b head. In practice i was fine. Come game day id get a ball hit to me and id usually sail it wide or high.
The first time I saw the yips in person was a catcher who couldn’t throw the ball back to the pitcher with runners on base, she had to walk the ball back to the pitcher
Daniel Bard went through the yips during the WBC
Edit: Ohh sweet, you brought it up!