Been thinking about getting into watch repair and watch making. This might be a good watch to buy for the sake of having a movement to take apart and experiment with.
I bought a winner watch on Amazon for the same reason and I like it so much I'm not sure I want to rip it apart. I'm getting 0 d/s, 288 Amp, 0.1 Error!!!
Remember the price. You would spend more on a bottle of wine. These can easily be regulated and ideal to learn about a watch. Then skip Seiko 5 and get a Seagull 1963 watch and see what a class Chinese watch is like.I have a $100 dollar Parnis sun moon gmt watch with a beautiful case and movement. See videos from Long Island Watches.
For critical timing of dives and other potentially deadly activities, just get a Casio! My digital Casio with LCD display lastet almost 20 years on its 10 year battery and after sitting in a drawer for a few years, I one day found it again, and it was about 30 seconds off! I think paid about USD14.99 at the time :) I had considered buying a new battery for it after it died, but the band was torn and there were bad scratches from work and DIY tooling around in the shed, so I threw it away, mainly because I had no clue where to get another 10 year battery. I am about to order that same Casio model W201-1AV Chronograph again for about USD20.
Hey for around 16 dollars you should talk about how great these watches are. I own some half decent watches and several of these cheap ones that I really seem to enjoy they don’t hack but seem to keep time very well and had 2 of them for about 3 years now wearing to work occasionally so not to mess up my good ones and I have not ant problems with these things really I can’t believe that they are that good for practically free because I tend to bang my wrist around things on the job but not get them wet and save my good watches for the weekend.
My SKX is worthless as a timekeeper and impossible to regulate. I actually bought a Winner Sub (blue/blue) and despite being obviously cheap it actually looks rather nice and I regulated it to within 5s/d. Its worst feature is that it barely makes it through the night unless you make sure it is fully wound.
Seems pretty much like my Tevise. Amazing value but lacks water resistance, screw down crown, screw down back, lume and power reserve. Bezel action is sloppy also. But for under $20, the Chinese manage an automatic dive style watch with exhibition back. Wow!
Your Tevise is actually a lot better [there are side by side reviews ]and a real bargain .Dial is better looking than most $200 subby clones too on the Tevise imo .I love mine and blows peoples minds when tell em I paid £l5 for it ,
Can't tell, but is that the Chinese Standard movement with the oversized balance wheel? If so, those watches always fail to autowind. They are really just the daily-wind mechanicals with a very inefficient autowinding bridge slapped on. The rotor never turns enough to wind the watch. They still function as a daily wind.
I love this watch . I hand wind it to help it through the day and night. It's like me. Cheap and need help to get me through the day and night. I like the cyclops and the steel bracelet too. It's a different Winner Automatic watch. I can't go in the water either, I can't swim.
Spend a few dollars more and buy a Casio Duro. It looks good on a Bond strap and you can take it in the hot tub. Like Watch On says, save up and buy something better like a Seiko or Orient.
I don't think most buyers if dive watches would die from bezel, since nearly buyers of dive watches are actually Desk Divers. I lost track of how many people I have met with dive style watches who do not know how to use.
Nice review. Actually for that price I was expecting a lot worse. Your criticisms were not that bad and totally expected for that price point. I wasn't expecting magnificently brushed surfaces and a no-play bezel. The band/strap is irrelevant because we all have tons laying around. I think you would have to be brain-dead to use that as your diving watch when actually diving. Anyone who does that deserves the darwin award. I don't dive, so I only use my bezels for timing things on land, and this seems capable of doing that. 30 seconds a day isn't bad at all for that price point. The watch is virtually free.
Morpho Polis Thank you. I must say I was expecting much worse as well. Some Seikos at 30 times the price is less accurate than this. However how this watch will stand the test of time compared to a Seiko or Orient we don’t know. But one can always buy another Winner.
I got one of these to practice taking apart and putting back together the movement. Its great for practice if you dont want to mess with your better watches.
I totally Disagree whit the conclusion that it's a bad watch! FOR THE Money it is an excellent watch, I had seiko's that stopt tikken after only vife years (mech) a quite expensive Edox eta quartz which is all so dead as a door nail, for postage money virtually anyone Without money can buy a pretty decent and functioning watch, when I want or Must dive, I can by a way more expensive watch like a way overpriced Rolex.... So for Me these in expensive Chinese watches although not waterproof are still worth buying, so I can spend my money on other things in live....
I have this watch which I got from Ebay for £16 UK. I'm highly delighted with it and I find it remarkably accurate for the price. I'm a bit sort sighted and find the magnifyer very useful though admittedly it doesn't look very nice. I would advise manually winding it every day as it can come to a stop if only relying on the automatic mechinism. All in all I'd give it 7/10
dont expect a tiptop quality from a 16 dollar watch. the watch does what it must be doing. its an automatic and it moves. if you want to save up to 300 dollars, maybe someone here will never get to buy an automatic watch. you can buy this watch, but just dont expect too much. if it maintains the time, then it is worth it for the price and the target users.even for me, a 5 minute difference a month is not a big deal. i am no time keeper of any sort of accuracy check. chinese do make some good automatic watch and the price is not 16 dollars.
I have reviewed quite a bit Chinese watches so far. This Winner is by far the worst one. But if you pay $50-80 you can get a watch that is far, far better. The Cadisen I reviewed is a very nice watch for only $52 and much better than this Winner.
It's a £16, it's tells time OK, get over it, please dude of course you can't use it as dive watch. For the it's excellent. It cost as much as a round of drinks! Bezel this, finishing that, lumed shot. PLEASE.
danielgarrad Watches are more than function. Watches are emotions and how they make you feel. Cheap crap dosn’t feel as good as Swiss luxury. Good if you can afford it. Too bad if you can’t.
@@TimeAndCrown That's a terrible comment that may cost you a few followers. "Watch Snobbery" isn't the way to go. If you don't get a feeling of vulnerability from being mugged whilst wearing your Swiss luxury Rolex Submariner, then that's perfectly OK. On the other hand, if I met someone flashing a Rolex out in a public arena, telling me how good it made them feel, don't be too shocked to receive a certain degree of ridicule. Yes "Ridicule" on learning about how much he paid for it, just to prop up a flaky ego.
Gary Seven Hi Gary. If one is flashing wealth just for the sake of flashing it’s hard to sympatize. Personally I wear more affordable watches when out at night at certain places. I hope the wide range of watches I cover in hundreds of videoes on my channel is proof enough I’m certainly no snob. Best regards, Anders
I am an novice watch maker. I bought one of these just so I could dissect it and practice putting it together. Does anyone know what movement this watch uses? The movement has no markings at all.
If you spend $20 on a Tevise from same site it's the best super cheap sub homage and actually well worth the money with far better fit and finish than the winner .Also is 42 mm which suits my large wrists . ps never get these watches wet and they re not full auto at all more semi so you need to hand wind them every day
Winner brand watches that are supposed to be automatic are a joke. The rotor does not spin freely enough to wind the watch at all. If you want to hand wind it each day, it will keep fairly accurate time. It's best to just avoid these things.
I agree that they need hand winding. However I have had more fun practicing regulating the beat error and accuracy. It is consistently between 0 and 0.2 on time graph for the last two months. Accuracy is sketchy on machine (20+ spd) but in real life, it is more like +5 seconds per day. Do wish it had more than 15 hours reserve, but I think it is a pretty fun watch if you don't take yourself too serious. Anyone know the lift angle?
The chances of a diver using this to time dives is very unlikely. But as a watch to wear throughout the day it a great little watch for 15 pound UK. I've had one 3 months now it's lost no time that's noticeable
As a beater watch the Winner could be replaced 10 times to one Orient Mako 2 at Black Friday prices. Spend $100 on a Parnis and the quality is not bad. Spend $1500 and you get a Chinese 'proper' Tourbillon! As ever, 'horses for courses.'
Vidtok is better or my invicta pro diver I spent $70.00 and got sieko nh35 movement with hand winding & hacking & ss construction & real cyclops. & wr 200 m.
We have to judge this watch for what it is, a homage watch. Nobody in his sane mind will expose it to water. Regarding the +31 seconds accuracy is not that bad for the price. I'm sure that with some regulation that number can go down. Let's remember that the well regarded NH35A Seiko movement has an official tolerance of -20/+40 accuracy. The 21,600 frequency is also the same as the NH35A.
I bought a Chinese watch on Ebay, marketed by ESS and branded Military Royale. I changed the strap and fixed a loose springbar. For £20.68 I never expected much and still don't, but it's timekeeping is +30 secs a week! Years ago Russian cameras had inconsistent quality, and Chinese watchmaking may be similar. The Royale on the dial might be challenged by another brand called Royale, so I might have bought a future rarity/collectors' item, which my grandson could benefit from.
Great watch to experiment with regulating accuracy and beat error For the last two months, this watch is within +5 secs a day. Hat is off to the movement! Of course nobody would get this watch wet, let alone go scuba diving with it... but otherwise I find the bezel handy for timing everyday type things, like cooking. Amount of work/technology for an hours pay... awesome.
There’s a reason why Rolex watches are several thousand dollars more but quality will account for less than a thou. The rest is snob value lapped up by an endless line of pretentious pratts that Rolex happily feast upon. Yuk.
Come on, be honest. How many people who own a Rolex sub mariner etc. go diving? These are good watches. I have one and also a Rolex Deep Blue Deep Sea James Cameron. They both tell the time. LOL
The complaints seem silly when you consider the price. If it stays on a wrist and tells time okay, you're getting your money's worth .
That's all that matters
Yes especially for $16.
I agree the complaints are too much for the price, what do you expect?a Rolex a Patek?c'mon its 16$ .
Been thinking about getting into watch repair and watch making. This might be a good watch to buy for the sake of having a movement to take apart and experiment with.
Glenn Thomas Hi Glenn. It would be the perfect choice for a movement to do some training on. Best regards, Anders.
@@freddykruger3320 hahahahaha
The movement is reliable enough to use as a mod project
I bought a winner watch on Amazon for the same reason and I like it so much I'm not sure I want to rip it apart. I'm getting 0 d/s, 288 Amp, 0.1 Error!!!
Remember the price.
You would spend more on a bottle of wine.
These can easily be regulated and ideal to learn about a watch.
Then skip Seiko 5 and get a Seagull 1963 watch and see what a class Chinese watch is like.I have a $100 dollar Parnis sun moon gmt watch with a beautiful case and movement.
See videos from Long Island Watches.
Indeed the Seagull 1963 is a fine watch 👍 but...Parnis ?. I don' know.😐
For critical timing of dives and other potentially deadly activities, just get a Casio! My digital Casio with LCD display lastet almost 20 years on its 10 year battery and after sitting in a drawer for a few years, I one day found it again, and it was about 30 seconds off! I think paid about USD14.99 at the time :) I had considered buying a new battery for it after it died, but the band was torn and there were bad scratches from work and DIY tooling around in the shed, so I threw it away, mainly because I had no clue where to get another 10 year battery. I am about to order that same Casio model W201-1AV Chronograph again for about USD20.
Hey for around 16 dollars you should talk about how great these watches are. I own some half decent watches and several of these cheap ones that I really seem to enjoy they don’t hack but seem to keep time very well and had 2 of them for about 3 years now wearing to work occasionally so not to mess up my good ones and I have not ant problems with these things really I can’t believe that they are that good for practically free because I tend to bang my wrist around things on the job but not get them wet and save my good watches for the weekend.
1. It's not waterproof
2. 2 minutes off on a dive total time...not a big deal
3. If regulated...it would likely be a useful timepiece
You could run out of air? Nobody i repeat NOBODY goes diving with a $16 watch!
It's a nice looking auto watch for $16 The END
Don't know about diving, but it's perfect to cook frozen pierogi
you can hand wind it.
More than you can do on a Seiko 5
My SKX is worthless as a timekeeper and impossible to regulate. I actually bought a Winner Sub (blue/blue) and despite being obviously cheap it actually looks rather nice and I regulated it to within 5s/d. Its worst feature is that it barely makes it through the night unless you make sure it is fully wound.
Seems pretty much like my Tevise. Amazing value but lacks water resistance, screw down crown, screw down back, lume and power reserve. Bezel action is sloppy also. But for under $20, the Chinese manage an automatic dive style watch with exhibition back. Wow!
Your Tevise is actually a lot better [there are side by side reviews ]and a real bargain .Dial is better looking than most $200 subby clones too on the Tevise imo .I love mine and blows peoples minds when tell em I paid £l5 for it ,
Can't tell, but is that the Chinese Standard movement with the oversized balance wheel? If so, those watches always fail to autowind. They are really just the daily-wind mechanicals with a very inefficient autowinding bridge slapped on. The rotor never turns enough to wind the watch. They still function as a daily wind.
I love this watch .
I hand wind it to help it through the day and night.
It's like me. Cheap and need help to get me through the day and night.
I like the cyclops and the steel bracelet too.
It's a different Winner Automatic watch.
I can't go in the water either, I can't swim.
Mine just broken. Do you have any idea for cheap mechine to replace?
Spend a few dollars more and buy a Casio Duro. It looks good on a Bond strap and you can take it in the hot tub. Like Watch On says, save up and buy something better like a Seiko or Orient.
I don't think most buyers if dive watches would die from bezel, since nearly buyers of dive watches are actually Desk Divers. I lost track of how many people I have met with dive style watches who do not know how to use.
It’s hard to tell the time when you’re muff-diving- the most popular kind of diving.
Nice review. Actually for that price I was expecting a lot worse. Your criticisms were not that bad and totally expected for that price point. I wasn't expecting magnificently brushed surfaces and a no-play bezel. The band/strap is irrelevant because we all have tons laying around.
I think you would have to be brain-dead to use that as your diving watch when actually diving. Anyone who does that deserves the darwin award.
I don't dive, so I only use my bezels for timing things on land, and this seems capable of doing that. 30 seconds a day isn't bad at all for that price point. The watch is virtually free.
Morpho Polis Thank you. I must say I was expecting much worse as well. Some Seikos at 30 times the price is less accurate than this. However how this watch will stand the test of time compared to a Seiko or Orient we don’t know. But one can always buy another Winner.
True WO. I am curious if it will hold up over time too. I assume it has jewels in it. Correct?
Morpho Polis well said sir!
If your dumb enough to use this watch as a dive watch then by all means do so. Maybe you will take yourself out of the gene pool before you reproduce.
For the money paid, winner watch are amazing. Have couple of them. None sense to compare with Rolex etc... Only problem is not ℅100 stainless steel.
I got one of these to practice taking apart and putting back together the movement. Its great for practice if you dont want to mess with your better watches.
I totally Disagree whit the conclusion that it's a bad watch!
FOR THE Money it is an excellent watch, I had seiko's that stopt tikken after only vife years (mech) a quite expensive Edox eta quartz which is all so dead as a door nail, for postage money virtually anyone Without money can buy a pretty decent and functioning watch, when I want or Must dive, I can by a way more expensive watch like a way overpriced Rolex....
So for Me these in expensive Chinese watches although not waterproof are still worth buying, so I can spend my money on other things in live....
I have this watch which I got from Ebay for £16 UK. I'm highly delighted with it and I find it remarkably accurate for the price.
I'm a bit sort sighted and find the magnifyer very useful though admittedly it doesn't look very nice.
I would advise manually winding it every day as it can come to a stop if only relying on the automatic mechinism.
All in all I'd give it 7/10
Nice Video, your Winner Watch is still running? Best Regards
Sir,, i don't think there is anything wrong with the watch .
i think it will work for Years............ and is very low cost.
I bought a bunch of different winner watches. I love them. They are cheap work and look good for the most part.
The chrome plating peels off after a year. Hope they make real stainless steel watch casing on future production.
GUANQIN is good, right? Thx
dont expect a tiptop quality from a 16 dollar watch. the watch does what it must be doing. its an automatic and it moves. if you want to save up to 300 dollars, maybe someone here will never get to buy an automatic watch. you can buy this watch, but just dont expect too much. if it maintains the time, then it is worth it for the price and the target users.even for me, a 5 minute difference a month is not a big deal. i am no time keeper of any sort of accuracy check. chinese do make some good automatic watch and the price is not 16 dollars.
I have reviewed quite a bit Chinese watches so far. This Winner is by far the worst one. But if you pay $50-80 you can get a watch that is far, far better. The Cadisen I reviewed is a very nice watch for only $52 and much better than this Winner.
It's a £16, it's tells time OK, get over it, please dude of course you can't use it as dive watch. For the it's excellent. It cost as much as a round of drinks!
Bezel this, finishing that, lumed shot. PLEASE.
danielgarrad Watches are more than function. Watches are emotions and how they make you feel. Cheap crap dosn’t feel as good as Swiss luxury. Good if you can afford it. Too bad if you can’t.
@@TimeAndCrown That's a terrible comment that may cost you a few followers. "Watch Snobbery" isn't the way to go.
If you don't get a feeling of vulnerability from being mugged whilst wearing your Swiss luxury Rolex Submariner, then that's perfectly OK.
On the other hand, if I met someone flashing a Rolex out in a public arena, telling me how good it made them feel, don't be too shocked to receive a certain degree of ridicule.
Yes "Ridicule" on learning about how much he paid for it, just to prop up a flaky ego.
Gary Seven Hi Gary. If one is flashing wealth just for the sake of flashing it’s hard to sympatize. Personally I wear more affordable watches when out at night at certain places. I hope the wide range of watches I cover in hundreds of videoes on my channel is proof enough I’m certainly no snob.
Best regards,
Anders
Case is an alloy made with chrome plating. Cyclops enhance the numbers, it's very clear to me.
I am an novice watch maker. I bought one of these just so I could dissect it and practice putting it together. Does anyone know what movement this watch uses? The movement has no markings at all.
Thank you so much!
If you spend $20 on a Tevise from same site it's the best super cheap sub homage and actually well worth the money with far better fit and finish than the winner .Also is 42 mm which suits my large wrists .
ps never get these watches wet and they re not full auto at all more semi so you need to hand wind them every day
That’s true. I have a Tevise and it’s much better than this Winner!
Does winner watch has manual winding??🙌❣⌚
Interesting to see what you get at this price. Thank and take care. Cheers:)
Have you ever tried to regulate this watch? I'm curious if they can be improved?
I regulated my winner. It loses1 second a day now. Not bad for the price, actually pretty good. It came running +46 a day.
@@duckdog38 That's great, glad you could get it dialed in better and good to know also.
@@duckdog38
Cool! Is the back screw down or snap on?
@@frankdiscussion2069 screw down
@@duckdog38 thanks!
Honestly it looks pretty nice..
I think this watch is actually better than rolex
The guy is a watch snob. It's a nice watch for the price. It's silly to expect high quality from a watch that costs less than $20.
I am. I only wear iced out Patek!
You didn't mention anything about the power reserve
Winner brand watches that are supposed to be automatic are a joke. The rotor does not spin freely enough to wind the watch at all. If you want to hand wind it each day, it will keep fairly accurate time. It's best to just avoid these things.
I agree that they need hand winding. However I have had more fun practicing regulating the beat error and accuracy. It is consistently between 0 and 0.2 on time graph for the last two months. Accuracy is sketchy on machine (20+ spd) but in real life, it is more like +5 seconds per day. Do wish it had more than 15 hours reserve, but I think it is a pretty fun watch if you don't take yourself too serious. Anyone know the lift angle?
The chances of a diver using this to time dives is very unlikely. But as a watch to wear throughout the day it a great little watch for 15 pound UK. I've had one 3 months now it's lost no time that's noticeable
I can't believe he's actually comparing this to a rolex................
Snickers It’s way better than a Rolex. Best regards from him.
As a beater watch the Winner could be replaced 10 times to one Orient Mako 2 at Black Friday prices. Spend $100 on a Parnis and the quality is not bad. Spend $1500 and you get a Chinese 'proper' Tourbillon! As ever, 'horses for courses.'
I brought a Winner watch Rectangle stainless steel gold for 40$ Amazon automatic
Vidtok is better or my invicta pro diver I spent $70.00 and got sieko nh35 movement with hand winding & hacking & ss construction & real cyclops. & wr 200 m.
As a diver, I’d never actually wear this timed diving. I wouldn’t trust my life to anything less than a citizen or Seiko.
$16 for an automatic sounds great. You could use the movement at least!
Good
You cannot even get a decent lunch for $16 ! .
We have to judge this watch for what it is, a homage watch. Nobody in his sane mind will expose it to water. Regarding the +31 seconds accuracy is not that bad for the price. I'm sure that with some regulation that number can go down. Let's remember that the well regarded NH35A Seiko movement has an official tolerance of -20/+40 accuracy. The 21,600 frequency is also the same as the NH35A.
Buy a 200$ chines watch, you will surprised
I bought a Chinese watch on Ebay, marketed by ESS and branded Military Royale. I changed the strap and fixed a loose springbar. For £20.68 I never expected much and still don't, but it's timekeeping is +30 secs a week!
Years ago Russian cameras had inconsistent quality, and Chinese watchmaking may be similar. The Royale on the dial might be challenged by another brand called Royale, so I might have bought a future rarity/collectors' item, which my grandson could benefit from.
they got a ton of watches called military royale on ebay by E S S ,unlike another brand called military royale but only letters M R on the dial.
Great watch to experiment with regulating accuracy and beat error For the last two months, this watch is within +5 secs a day. Hat is off to the movement! Of course nobody would get this watch wet, let alone go scuba diving with it... but otherwise I find the bezel handy for timing everyday type things, like cooking. Amount of work/technology for an hours pay... awesome.
you cant expect to much this is a 16$ automatic watch t
It's called "getting what you pay for"!
There’s a reason why Rolex watches are several thousand dollars more but quality will account for less than a thou. The rest is snob value lapped up by an endless line of pretentious pratts that Rolex happily feast upon. Yuk.
Wrong.
True .
A watch is just a watch
Come on, be honest. How many people who own a Rolex sub mariner etc. go diving?
These are good watches. I have one and also a Rolex Deep Blue Deep Sea James Cameron. They both tell the time. LOL
Wow that strap is horrible.
Jussi Hippi It’s not good. But it’s no surprise considering the overall price.
Are you a german?
Nope, I'm from Scandinavia :)
Crzr-97 Dänemark!
I thought the guy in the video was chinese...
Its a watch
Buting a 60000 rolex to tell the time
Its like
Buying a tin opener made of platinum .
Try to regulate it.
So it is 15 dollars 🤔
Good review. I am convinced not to buy one
Is that Rolex genuine? It looks no better that a $16 on the screen.
www.specsavers.com
A better chinese would be phoibis.
agree
I have an irrational fear of those.
I got a Rolex submariner at 10 years old
A non dive watch in a dive watch shape waste of materials.
Fine Chinese watches ,like mobile phones ,soon China would own 80 percent of watch world .
Dude! It's a $16.00 watch! I dont think anyone is being duped here. We know it's not a seiko or a Rolex.
Just relax
Am I not relaxed, Bobby?
its junk
it's a winner
chinese watch are not very good ! i have two , none not work proply!
a $16 paperweight!