this is such a good embodiment of the feeling of liberation through sexuality but the gnawing dark undertone of being sexualized and held hostage as a fetish in somebody else's mind.
I feel like the line "if it feels good it can't be bad" is also alluding to the fact that some people (incorrectly) believe that if a person experiences physical pleasure during r@pe or SA then it isn't assault.
Yeah... that's exactly what it means. It's really a horrible way to manipulate a situation of SA to say that if it even felt a little good that it was okay... yuck.
A possibility... but there is also no line in her verse that says she's unwilling... tempted by a new lover she's unsure of maybe..but I don't get SA or dark vibes from this. The part that gets me is the mixed messages I feel are going on internally (and personally) that she's feeling, which makes me question her confidence with setting boundaries or her comfort level with a new lover and herself. Alot that can be interpreted for sure
@@hahaifarded3047 in this song she’s singing about Isaiah giving her drugs, and pimping her out in the back of strip clubs and he eventually kills in August Underground and cannibalizes her in Strangers
As someone who’s been a SWr for a long while, a majority of our job is being hurt and SAed and there are many men who sell their girlfriends/wives and it’s almost never talked about. Please keep yourselves safe ❤
the transition from the line "if it feels good then it can't be bad" in gibson girl to ethel's realisation that if it feels bad then it can't be good in ptolemaea is something that i'll never get over
This song makes me feel such a deep anger (his last name was Gibson). I hate him. Hate him for using me for so long. Hate him for pretending to care. Hate him for touching me. Hate him for lying. Hate him for playing the victim. Hate him for the guilt trips. Hate him for only caring about himself.
damn you ruined yourself your future lover or husband is a poor sadd guy getting slopy seconds with someone like ya you will always wanna f gibson its over you will cheat
That comes from the devil. Please seek God with a humble heart and he will find you and take you through the pain (never without it) until you have peace at his side.
Same. I'm a cis woman but because of my trauma I draw in guys who can sweet talk me and get whatever they want from me, then act like I've never existed. I also did sex work for a time and I am way too comfortable with being fetishized. Her music speaks to a part of me that I can't seem to heal. 💔
It’s relatable on both levels, to a degree. My situation was forced online SW, and I’m grateful I got out before it became in person. I can relate to the detached attempt at trying to convince yourself you enjoy it, and finding it freeing. But I can also relate to when I was younger and just wanted to have fun.
Holy shit this comment resonated with me big time. Childhood trauma (take a guess) has made me not only hypersexual but sexually confused. Hope one day we can all cope healthily its a struggle big time
[Verse 1] You wanna love me right now You wanna get alone with me You wanna get my clothes off And hurt me You came alone to me From however far away Asking me to know how I know You're all the same [Pre-Chorus] Black leather and dark glasses Pouring another while I shake my ass He's cold-blooded so it takes more time to bleed Obsession with the money, addicted to the drugs Says he's in love with my body, that's why he's fucking it up And then he says to me [Chorus] "Baby, if it feels good Then it can't be bad" Where can I be immoral In a stranger's lap And if you want it good Downright iconic Something they all want That only you can have [Verse 2] You wanna fuck me right now You wanna see me on my knees You wanna rip these clothes off And hurt me [Pre-Chorus] And if you hate me Please don't tell me Just let the lights bleed All over me [Chorus] If it feels good Then it can't be bad Where I can be immoral In a stranger's lap And if you want it good Downright iconic Then I would show you something You can never have [Instrumental Break] And if it feels good Then it can't be bad Where I can be immoral In a stranger's lap And if you want it good Downright iconic Then I would show you something You can never have [Outro] You wanna love me right now You wanna love me right now You wanna fuck me right now You wanna- You wanna love me right now You wanna love me right now You wanna fuck me, fuck me You wanna love me, love me You wanna-
first time i listened to this i was high. hit me like a truck. was feeling transported the entire time and then just when you expect the beat to pick up and get faster at 1:42, it instead get SLOWER and more muted. probably altered my brain more than mind altering drugs. love.
Dark and romantic. Captures the dichotomy of lust and the immediate emptiness of it. What a beautifully powerful song. Marilyn Manson meets The Weeknd and Chris Isaac.
This song is so incredibly important bc it tells the story of a trans woman who finally gives in. Ethel pens her willingness to lose herself in sex despite her partner’s shame & fetishization of her body due to her identity as a trans woman. It's sexy and catchy but ultimately extremely dark due to the high statistic of trans women being murdered. We're often used for our bodies and then rejected with no warning and sometimes killed when a man's masculinity is threatened. I've never heard anything like this before. Sex songs are typically bright pop tracks, so this blew my mind. I actually studied it for a music class and wrote an analysis on it lol.
Is that actually part of the album's story? I know Ethel Cain the artist is trans, but I thought Ethel Cain (the character in the album) was a cis woman who died in the 1990s.
Thank you for writing this. I have been through something similar, a long time ago now, and I have not heard a song address this subject. I am not trying to be dismissive of other issues, but emotionally darker music for women is usually limited to self esteem issues, dating emotionally distant men who might cheat, and feeling guilty over starting arguments. I relate to some of that, as well, but it’s not why I’m still on my healing journey after 8 years. I am functional. I have more of a life that I thought possible when I first started healing. I think if I heard this a year earlier it would have still been too much for me, but right now, this and some of the other less discussed traumatic themes you write about, are very cathartic. It is hard to discuss any pain or trauma but when it’s shit that people see as just in movies and dateline specials, it makes it that much harder. So I use music for catharsis, and I am grateful for this song.
this song is perfect for what i’m feeling right now. your talent for making people feel the emotions and feelings within your music is phenomenal. thank you, mother ♡
There seem tobe two versions of this song: one where the tempo slightly slows, just enough to be disotienting, and this one where the tempo is consistent throughout the song. I just noticed this -the lack of change makes it sound more two-dimensional in my opinion.
Wow.. I discovered your music a few weeks ago and deeply resonate with so much of it. Your voice is daintily haunting, your lyricism is out of this world, and each song is layered and dynamic. I just want you to know I’ve been listening on repeat and that i’m so excited you’re still creating✨✨ I aspire to reach the level of embodiment and resilience you have displayed through your music. So I wanted to tell you you’re beautiful and say thank you for your art 💗💗
i just remembered my ex because of this song, even if we already separated he'd randomly text me about the things he wants to do to me (and yes we still talk, sometimes, or when he remembers i exist) 😦 especially at the "something they all want that only you can have" part, man already is with someone else but for some reason he REALLLLYYY just wants to bag me and make a moment we'd both remember for as long as we'd live, technically since it was a long distance relationship we'd be strangers until we meet up irl, it's not like he's obsessed with me, but more like he puts me on a pedestal or he thinks that I'm a trophy he's been waiting to have- in a way it's sweet but also kinda terrifying lol
This song is so incredibly relatable, personally it really speaks to the experience of how young women sexualise themselves in desperation for attention. In my own experience it speaks to how my desperate plea for attention led to me being assaulted by my only friend, the dirty feeling it left me with, but I couldn’t walk away from it because I’d ultimately bought it on myself, I enjoyed the attention so how could I refuse it
This song was dedicated to me by a girl working at the hong kong. I met her there but lately i been a part of her life.she tells me that she can see right thru me and what she sees is kind of scary. But then she refers to this song telling me that if it feels that good it can't be bad. She likes that i drive a 2013 black toyota camri level 3+
Guys im sober now and had to stop listening to all of my music cus it triggers the shit out of me, does anyone have any recs that are in the same vibe as this? Really looking for completely new artists that ive probably never heard before lol ❤❤❤im actually rly excited cus I thought I had to stop listening to music entirely, but I am checking out ethel and so far I havent felt the normal itch LMAO
this is such a good embodiment of the feeling of liberation through sexuality but the gnawing dark undertone of being sexualized and held hostage as a fetish in somebody else's mind.
exactly!! you think you're the one making the rules but at the end you're playing their game
okay terri
@@cinnamonproduction3898 period
yeah! especially for a trans woman
Absolutely brilliant comment.
I feel like the line "if it feels good it can't be bad" is also alluding to the fact that some people (incorrectly) believe that if a person experiences physical pleasure during r@pe or SA then it isn't assault.
I was literally just thinking that when I first heard that lyric.
Yeah... that's exactly what it means. It's really a horrible way to manipulate a situation of SA to say that if it even felt a little good that it was okay... yuck.
A possibility... but there is also no line in her verse that says she's unwilling... tempted by a new lover she's unsure of maybe..but I don't get SA or dark vibes from this.
The part that gets me is the mixed messages I feel are going on internally (and personally) that she's feeling, which makes me question her confidence with setting boundaries or her comfort level with a new lover and herself.
Alot that can be interpreted for sure
What a stupid thing to say. Wow. Im seriously flabbergasted. You've clearly never been sexually assaulted.
@@SulsaNim she gets trafficked in the story
Flower crown indie tumblr would've ate this like that man did Ethel 😩🖤
you're messed up for this 😭✨✌️
UMM-
I am not educated in Ethel lore to understand this
Straight to jaaaaiiiilll😭
@@hahaifarded3047 in this song she’s singing about Isaiah giving her drugs, and pimping her out in the back of strip clubs and he eventually kills in August Underground and cannibalizes her in Strangers
so tempted to get "downright iconic" tattooed somewhere
i've been juggling the idea of getting an Ethel Cain tramp stamp of that quote :0
THE MOANING ON A TRACK IS ICONIC EVERY SINGLE TIME
Ethel Cain 🤝 Cupcakke
@@xviolaa still waiting for them to collab.. 😮💨
@@talie3578 we can always remix😩
Am I crazy or what cause I don’t hear moaning wdym
@@daisonendin the outro
This entire album is downright Iconic
PERIOD!!
As someone who’s been a SWr for a long while, a majority of our job is being hurt and SAed and there are many men who sell their girlfriends/wives and it’s almost never talked about. Please keep yourselves safe ❤
the transition from the line "if it feels good then it can't be bad" in gibson girl to ethel's realisation that if it feels bad then it can't be good in ptolemaea is something that i'll never get over
3:39 WHEN THE GUITAR CAME IN I LOST MY MINDDDD HAYDEN YOU ARE A GENIUS
LITERALLY!!!!
This is so fucking good. More proof that Mother Cain can't make a bad song!!!
Shame on you to working with dr luke
@@OkaySoShit WAIT ETHEL IS WORKING WITH THAT MONSTER?? OMG NO
he's so talented
@@RB-.- *she's so talented!
@@OkaySoShit Wtf are you talking about
This song makes me feel such a deep anger (his last name was Gibson). I hate him. Hate him for using me for so long. Hate him for pretending to care. Hate him for touching me. Hate him for lying. Hate him for playing the victim. Hate him for the guilt trips. Hate him for only caring about himself.
Im so sorry that you had to go through that babes ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@kneedeepinthepassengerseat thank you. It was rough, but I learned things about myself through it that I needed to know.
damn you ruined yourself
your future lover or husband is a poor sadd guy getting slopy seconds with someone like ya
you will always wanna f gibson its over you will cheat
yea yea cry more 😂
1:07 bc im so addicted to this part
Same 😭
Same ❤
taking my fucking hat off, sitting at the edge of my bed, this. is. brilliant.
I literally just found your music and you’re criminally underrated
Fr!!
Shame on you to working with dr luke
@@OkaySoShit💀
@@LifeOfJakoby54 ?
better than i could have expected... the next greatest american record coming right up
Shame on you to working with dr luke
i've never felt more understood by an album. this album IS religious trauma
That comes from the devil. Please seek God with a humble heart and he will find you and take you through the pain (never without it) until you have peace at his side.
@@ezequielzunino135religious trauma comes from other religious people. No one wants to hear about your religion, go away
The entirety of Preachers Daughter is a perfect album
I know what this song is actually about but as someone who has hypersexuality due to trauma this is extremely relatable
Same. I'm a cis woman but because of my trauma I draw in guys who can sweet talk me and get whatever they want from me, then act like I've never existed. I also did sex work for a time and I am way too comfortable with being fetishized. Her music speaks to a part of me that I can't seem to heal. 💔
It’s relatable on both levels, to a degree. My situation was forced online SW, and I’m grateful I got out before it became in person. I can relate to the detached attempt at trying to convince yourself you enjoy it, and finding it freeing. But I can also relate to when I was younger and just wanted to have fun.
Holy shit this comment resonated with me big time. Childhood trauma (take a guess) has made me not only hypersexual but sexually confused. Hope one day we can all cope healthily its a struggle big time
[Verse 1]
You wanna love me right now
You wanna get alone with me
You wanna get my clothes off
And hurt me
You came alone to me
From however far away
Asking me to know how I know
You're all the same
[Pre-Chorus]
Black leather and dark glasses
Pouring another while I shake my ass
He's cold-blooded so it takes more time to bleed
Obsession with the money, addicted to the drugs
Says he's in love with my body, that's why he's fucking it up
And then he says to me
[Chorus]
"Baby, if it feels good
Then it can't be bad"
Where can I be immoral
In a stranger's lap
And if you want it good
Downright iconic
Something they all want
That only you can have
[Verse 2]
You wanna fuck me right now
You wanna see me on my knees
You wanna rip these clothes off
And hurt me
[Pre-Chorus]
And if you hate me
Please don't tell me
Just let the lights bleed
All over me
[Chorus]
If it feels good
Then it can't be bad
Where I can be immoral
In a stranger's lap
And if you want it good
Downright iconic
Then I would show you something
You can never have
[Instrumental Break]
And if it feels good
Then it can't be bad
Where I can be immoral
In a stranger's lap
And if you want it good
Downright iconic
Then I would show you something
You can never have
[Outro]
You wanna love me right now
You wanna love me right now
You wanna fuck me right now
You wanna-
You wanna love me right now
You wanna love me right now
You wanna fuck me, fuck me
You wanna love me, love me
You wanna-
❤❤❤❤❤
Old Weeknd vibes and I'm here for it. Feed us mother Ethel
i thought the same !
Like many people, I've only just discovered Ethel Cain. Huge talent. Haunting and powerful. Really hits you.
first time i listened to this i was high. hit me like a truck. was feeling transported the entire time and then just when you expect the beat to pick up and get faster at 1:42, it instead get SLOWER and more muted. probably altered my brain more than mind altering drugs. love.
I know what I’m doing now
can't wait to hyperfocus on this record all summer
me rnnn
@@inisaiahsfreezer fr same
@@inisaiahsfreezer SAME
A perfect mix of devilish and divine.
"downright iconic"
discovering her music has been such a special moment for me. ethel is such an incredibly talented artist and i cannot wait for this new era!
Dark and romantic. Captures the dichotomy of lust and the immediate emptiness of it. What a beautifully powerful song. Marilyn Manson meets The Weeknd and Chris Isaac.
perfectly described. dropped at the right time cause recently i was hearing a lot weeknds trilogy
Shame on you to working with dr luke
@@OkaySoShit Dr. Luke has nothing to do with her music. He has no production or writing credits. His company is just licensed to promote her music.
…Meets Meg Myers and Lana Del Rey
@Tristan He's a shit person, but he's (or was) a good musician.
I like the line donwright iconic in tandem with a title like Gibson girl. That’s cool sis.
I like her using her left hand. The left hand path
exceeded all of my expectations, this is incredible. thank u mother
4:54 - I wish this part would last longer, amazing
This song is so incredibly important bc it tells the story of a trans woman who finally gives in. Ethel pens her willingness to lose herself in sex despite her partner’s shame & fetishization of her body due to her identity as a trans woman. It's sexy and catchy but ultimately extremely dark due to the high statistic of trans women being murdered. We're often used for our bodies and then rejected with no warning and sometimes killed when a man's masculinity is threatened. I've never heard anything like this before. Sex songs are typically bright pop tracks, so this blew my mind. I actually studied it for a music class and wrote an analysis on it lol.
i'd honestly love to read more abt this if you'd like to share
via your comment I just found out about Ethel Cain being trans?? I'm dumb I guess
the murder narrative is a lie stop fearmongering.
Is that actually part of the album's story? I know Ethel Cain the artist is trans, but I thought Ethel Cain (the character in the album) was a cis woman who died in the 1990s.
@@IRNjuggle28 Ethel isn't "trans". She is normal.
listening to this album is truly a rollercoaster or emotions the vibes are just wow
Reminds me of 'Unpunishable' from Inbred. Obsessed with this song!!!
Dude this is REALLY good...especially love around 3:00
Thank you for writing this. I have been through something similar, a long time ago now, and I have not heard a song address this subject. I am not trying to be dismissive of other issues, but emotionally darker music for women is usually limited to self esteem issues, dating emotionally distant men who might cheat, and feeling guilty over starting arguments. I relate to some of that, as well, but it’s not why I’m still on my healing journey after 8 years. I am functional. I have more of a life that I thought possible when I first started healing. I think if I heard this a year earlier it would have still been too much for me, but right now, this and some of the other less discussed traumatic themes you write about, are very cathartic. It is hard to discuss any pain or trauma but when it’s shit that people see as just in movies and dateline specials, it makes it that much harder. So I use music for catharsis, and I am grateful for this song.
on the 8th day, ethel made gibson girl, and it was Great.
wondering if Gibson Girl is a reference to the OG Victorian supermodel or the guitar
I feel like she's a "both, and" kinda person xD
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibson_Girl + Maybe the Geetarr ?
Downright iconic, indeed.
Mother has arrived
it makes me cry. every time.
Best song I’ve heard in a while. Can’t wait to see where all this brings you. Phenomenal.
the production on this is absolutely masterful
Got that pj Harvey feels. I love the dirt on the last part
Exceeded all expectations omfg now I’m foaming at the mouth for the album 😮💨
this song is perfect for what i’m feeling right now. your talent for making people feel the emotions and feelings within your music is phenomenal. thank you, mother ♡
i cant stop listening to this. if this is what the next album is going to sound like, BEYOND EXCITED AHHH
Amazing, as always. All I can ask is an official vinyl release for this upcoming album.
She is unreal, how good she is
this is gonna be on repeat all day
Oh thank god I needed a new song to hyperfixate on
When I first heard this I was like 😮 and I almost spit my coffee out when the guitar came in. I don’t think a song has ever slapped my ass so hard.
motherrrrrr you keep putting out such hypnotic tracks 🥺
downright iconic
3:39 👍 I'm a old blue's man who actually owns a few Gibsons which brought me to this beautiful master piece.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibson_Girl ;)
this song is not named after the gibson guitar, but it ironically is super guitar heavy. love ittt
my favorite modern musician (2020's). in love with this album and this is my first listen
There seem tobe two versions of this song: one where the tempo slightly slows, just enough to be disotienting, and this one where the tempo is consistent throughout the song. I just noticed this -the lack of change makes it sound more two-dimensional in my opinion.
Wow.. I discovered your music a few weeks ago and deeply resonate with so much of it. Your voice is daintily haunting, your lyricism is out of this world, and each song is layered and dynamic. I just want you to know I’ve been listening on repeat and that i’m so excited you’re still creating✨✨ I aspire to reach the level of embodiment and resilience you have displayed through your music. So I wanted to tell you you’re beautiful and say thank you for your art 💗💗
i just remembered my ex because of this song, even if we already separated he'd randomly text me about the things he wants to do to me (and yes we still talk, sometimes, or when he remembers i exist) 😦
especially at the "something they all want that only you can have" part, man already is with someone else but for some reason he REALLLLYYY just wants to bag me and make a moment we'd both remember for as long as we'd live, technically since it was a long distance relationship we'd be strangers until we meet up irl, it's not like he's obsessed with me, but more like he puts me on a pedestal or he thinks that I'm a trophy he's been waiting to have-
in a way it's sweet but also kinda terrifying lol
Go out of that situation
IM VOMITING THANK YOU MOTHER
This song will live in the depths of my mind like your desires...
I’m almost in tears. ❤ left hand path
Favorite artist of 2021 looking like Ethel might carry that through 2022...
Powerful! Your music is so far beyond most of what I hear nowadays. It's incredibly powerful and emotionally deep.
Thanks for sharing your beautiful and unique talent one of my favorites
Honey wake up, new Ethel drop
Mother Cain slaying so hard here
This song is so incredibly relatable, personally it really speaks to the experience of how young women sexualise themselves in desperation for attention.
In my own experience it speaks to how my desperate plea for attention led to me being assaulted by my only friend, the dirty feeling it left me with, but I couldn’t walk away from it because I’d ultimately bought it on myself, I enjoyed the attention so how could I refuse it
I’m sorry that happened ❤️
Gibson girl one year anniversary 🎉🎉
THIS IS SO DAMN GOOD
did you put crack on this song?
Downright iconic!
Child of the corn . Ethel went missing in the corn field and came out with popcorn.
Your music is such a huge part of my life.
I like all the guitar sprinkled throughout this
Moody tune! Dark lyrics! Love the solo at the end! Intense!🎸🎸🎸✌🏻✌🏻😎
I hear PJ Harvey, Lana, and The Weeknd. I’m living!!!
makes me more excited knowing the album is gonna be 2 hours long!!!
No way!! Wow
she just said she cut it down to 1 hour recently
Jocelyn if she slayed
This song was dedicated to me by a girl working at the hong kong. I met her there but lately i been a part of her life.she tells me that she can see right thru me and what she sees is kind of scary. But then she refers to this song telling me that if it feels that good it can't be bad. She likes that i drive a 2013 black toyota camri level 3+
1:30 best part
Just found Ethel Cain yesterday by chance on RUclips! Instant purchase of all her music LOVE it
sending continuing awe & gratitude from Toronto
And this song goes deeper into the Universe exploided by Christine.
ETHEL has such a variety of style, it is amazing.
whoa this is a banger, cant wait for the album thank u mother ♡♡♡
dude the instrumental at 2:50 is so good
This song is so nice to dance to
And I started today never having a clue who this is. This world is wonderful
mother, you are an icon 🙇🏼♀️
So excited
Can't. stop. listening.
i am dead on the floor.
favorite song
i better not see one god damn dislike on this.
this song made me explode into tiny flowers and shards of glass what..
the stun at the end is just iconic
Oh my god… YOU FKIN DID THAT!!!😍😍😍😍😍
I’m way too late to Ethel. I love her music. ❤
Ahhh chills
the outro made me ascend
Guys im sober now and had to stop listening to all of my music cus it triggers the shit out of me, does anyone have any recs that are in the same vibe as this? Really looking for completely new artists that ive probably never heard before lol ❤❤❤im actually rly excited cus I thought I had to stop listening to music entirely, but I am checking out ethel and so far I havent felt the normal itch LMAO
ariana grande !
this made me sob.