Why Saudi Arabia Has Destroyed 98% Of Mecca Since 1985
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Saudi Arabia is not only home to the world’s second-largest oil reserves, but they’re also home to one of the most important religious locations: Mecca. Mecca plays a major role in Islam as it is where Mohammed the Prophet was born. Most Muslims try to pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in their lifetimes through something called the Hajj. Given the importance of this city and the wealth of Saudi Arabia, you would think that Saudi Arabia would try to protect the city as much as possible. Yet, they’ve actually been doing the exact opposite. For centuries, Saudi Arabians, and more specifically the Wahhabis have been constantly taking down relics and destroying various buildings in the city. Their reasoning for this is that they’re trying to prevent people from worshipping relics and monuments, but the truth may have more to do with retaining power and control. This video explains why Saudi Arabia has destroyed 98% of Mecca within just the past few decades alone.
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0:00 - Mecca’s Destruction
2:12 - Wahhabism
5:18 - Thirst For Power
8:39 - Escalating Resentment
10:47 - State Of Mecca
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I am a Muslim. I don’t worship graves or prophet or anything or anyone other than Allah. But destroying historical sites is plain wrong. The places are respected not because they are worshipped, but because of its historical significance.
No you are a wahabi.
The elites and powerful couldn't care less about your faith and beliefs. It's about their power and control and to them they are the Gods who controls the people as they see fit.
Osmanli used to do 🦃🇹🇷🦃
Literally we don’t worship graves but we respect them. Especially if it’s the graves of our LITERAL prophets. You don’t right when you say it like that…
@@ziyadpepe6291 back when Turkey was actaully a good country
“We don't worship graves”
Meanwhile India have the largest decorated muslim grave in the world, made by a muslim ruler. And yet no one worship it.
Can anyone guess it? - Taj Mahal 🤷🏻♂️
You don't need to worship something to protect it from destruction. You can just protect and preserve it because it is part of your history, heritage and culture.
Dude looks like you haven't seen dargahs there they ask help from them...not saying Saudi did is good but there should be some other alternative
@@Skeditx95we ask them to ask allah for us like we literally ask who's in the grave to worship allah alone and we believe that they are alive in their grave as Quran 2:154 states: “Do not say regarding those who are slain in the path of God that they are dead; rather they are alive but you are not aware.” most of the graves are those who dedicated their lives in serving allah and if u say dead can't hear us then let me tell u that they do and prophet ﷺ even told us to salam them and fyi it's a dua and he ﷺ said that they even reply which means they can make dua for you too
Heard of Ajmer, Fatehpur Seekri or Nizamuddin?
Its because Wahhabism , its sect in muslim world that differ from majority of muslim “mahzab” they famously accusing other mahzab not islam, you can search about Wahhabism in yt for context
And protecting history isn't even about liking or disliking someone. The western tradition is that we should preserve the history of both our follies and triumphs. I am Russian and we still keep around the graves and monuments to people whom we vehemently disagree with. Lenins mausoleum still stands and we have moved past communism and the Lenin/Stalin cult of personality a while ago. Hell, many even regard Lenin as a monster today and don't call for the destruction of the mausoleum and like it being there as a reminder of our previous folly.
It's about money, some places are built among the most expensive lands in the world, where 1 sqm is sold for 20,000 usd
both i think , but building a f** toilet in place of a site seems to send a loud and clear message
@@veryCreativeName0001-zv1irbro they made it on the house of prophet ﷺ's most beloved wife that's so disrespectful
@@syd_sohailITS ALL ABOUT MONEY 💰 MONEY 💰 MONEY 💰
I’m a practising Muslim and I must say I really appreciate your video and how well you presented these perspectives. Keep marching on brother I love your content.
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Thank you so much usayeed!
@@LogicallyAnswered The reason why they destroy it, bcz the Prophet order to do it.
From Abul Hayyaj Al Asadi, he said, "'Ali bin Abi Talib said to me, "Indeed I am sending you with something that the Messenger of Allah - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - sent me with that command. That is, do not leave the statue (image) but destroy it and do not let the grave be high from the ground unless you flatten it." (HR. Muslim no. 969).
Remember! The building above the grave was not built at the time of the Prophet, but several hundred years after.
you can't be serious
@@LogicallyAnswered ironman enter the chat
Kudos to you for making this video. Even as a sunni Muslim I didn't know it was going on in Saudia Arabia. Keep making controversial topics.
These "controversial" topics are deceiving, you have to understand its Islamic fatwa and see the Islamic point of view, not foreign point of view, because in islam, heritage comes second to actual worships. This is the opposite in many western and western influenced areas. Can we clearly speak about this brother? With all respect
look behind their intention of producing such videos, especially in the light of recent political animosity for saudi arabia by the US. This is what propaganda is, its defamation.
beware of iranian shia propaganda that is anti sunnni and anti Arab. many Iranian propaganda channels like PROCASTOR are trying to deceive ignorant Sunni Muslims with online videos
@@Omer1996E.C Where's your Daleel? Starbucks? 😂
@@Omer1996E.C wahhabie spotted 😂😂
I’m saudi and i can assure you All of this changed when MBS came to power , he overthrown wahabi and start to promote tourism in the country
AlOula city home of prophet Salih is now registered as world heritage site and major tourist destination
Love your videos man keep up the good work
You see this as only positive? This is very narrow sighted
Wahhabis are venomous snakes.
@الصراصير التركمانيه بائعه الكباب
Wahhabis are shameless terrorists
Yes one day inshallah Saudi will become Sufi Hanbali
@@Omer1996E.C Yes, positive.
You and Jake tran are actually killing it. Best of luck. Based on your recommendation I viewed economics explained and I must say I am really enjoying learning economics.
Glad to hear that Shivendra! That’s a great channel
Watch Economics Unlearned for economics
Thing is Jake scams his subs, don't compare the 2
His videos are far more factual than Jake Tran's
But logically answered is not a hypocrite
You've got a rare knack for finding topics that I've never heard about or thought about and making them interesting. Keep it up
Thank you swaa!
You never heard of it because its not true. Why would a country destroy religious sights and lose its influence by doing so?
The sights that was demolished are illegal houses built by people who came to preform hajj, and never left the country, slums basically.
But hey, some people really enjoy fantasy stories or conspiracy theories.
I'm a catholic: when they demolished ancient churches in the reinassance was only to build bigger churches. Nowadays we would like to see the old churches again and we don't have them anymore. I never knew about this form of iconoclasty. It's a shame and a loss for all humanity. We need to preserve our history foundation, which are important even for faith reasons against the atheistic modernity.
The video has many problems, it starts off by quoting a London based Islamic Hertiage research center which cannot even be found on the internet, it is some obscure organization. The second quote is from a US based think tank run by a critic of Saudi Arabia, so its likely to be (and is) agenda driven which would question its objectivity. The video relies on only one source, there is no diversity of sources which means that the facts shown in the video are not very reliable. The author also demonstrates his lack of research by claiming that Wahhabis existed 'thousands of years ago' citing raids in 1205 (in reality Wahhabis have only been around since the 18th century), which is very interesting considering the fact that the date is in the AH calender which is about 600 years behind the Gregorian one. Another historical error the author makes is the claim that Saudi Arabia destroyed the house of Khadija, the wife of the Prophet. Saudi Arabia was founded in 1932 and the house was destroyed in the 1920s. Lack of knowledge of such common facts further raises questions about the research the author of this video put in. The rest of the video is basically some clichés about the Saudi monarchy with a bunch of political assertions that I am not concerned with, as the entire video is based on the first part which is the historicity, which is itself built on sand. Other Muslims in this comments section have already responded to the rest of the claims made in the video.
Thank you so much for making this clear to people who just straight up nodded their head to everything he said in that video
beware to iranian shia propaganda that is anti sunnni and anti Arab. many Iranian propaganda channels like PROCASTOR are trying to deceive Sunni Muslims with online videos
Who cares about such information inconsistencies. This is the internet. Not everything is is true.
This video has one thing correct, Saudis have destroyed many heritages.
You are madkhali.
Even Islam don't have any logic 😂
I'm a Muslim and found this video is really unbiased. Although to be honest at first I thought the opposite! 💙
If you are muslim, can you please explain to me why do you agree with him? Let us speak about our religion brother
@@Omer1996E.C with which statement of him you are not agree with? He's just talking facts here
@@ihtesham_emon “stating facts” Lmao, Do your own research…For real. Imagine saying the country that islam was first spread is wrong, but the people of far lands have a way better understanding of it. How ignorant are you?
The agents didn't like my comments so they deleted them. Saudia Arabia is the enemy of Islam.
beware to iranian shia propaganda that is anti sunnni and anti Arab. many Iranian propaganda channels like PROCASTOR are trying to deceive Sunni Muslims with online videos
As someone who did the pilgrimage I am very grateful for the infrastructure built. I have allot of relatives from mecca, they would tell us how in the old days before all of this infrastructure was built poeple would get trampled, and in one of the pilgrimage stages you need to throw stones at a specific site and many people would get injured or killed at that site.
My grandmother had her house confiscated in mecca and she was paid around 2~3 mill SAR ( near 1 mill USD).
BTW I like your videos including the ones about Saudi Arabia. However, I think it over the top a little bit. In my personal opinion allot of the ruling class in Saudi Arabia genuinely believe in Islam and many of there action are genuine (someone who truly believe he will be judged by God for all of his action would act in a certain way).
Do you know how much you could make out of renting that house?
@@geoffreycharles6330 well that house would be worth more if they had it today
@@geoffreycharles6330 not much because it was basically in what we consider slums nowadays. Saudi Arabia was a dirt poor country, Somalia used to send us food as humanitarian assistance🙃
@@fahdf5736 wow that's extreme. Are people of this history in your country? Or you've already forgotten how far you've come?
@@geoffreycharles6330 renting the house!
The people needs hotels with a lot of floors and apartments not a small house that can house a family, do you see why the government pay these people to sell their lands.
I'm Saudi I was born and raised here, my family comes from a line of Muslims and we've lived in the Arabic peninsula for centuries, why we mainly agree on why they destroyed these "religious sites" because they do not hold any meaning for the religion, realistically in Islam you're not required to go to these places to fulfill your religious duties.
Although, as a "tourist" site they would be I guess somewhat interesting for people across the world but we do not want people to use our religion for tourism and fulfillment in fact you can't enter Mecca or Medina unless you're Muslim because there's literally nothing there you can do besides go to these religious holy places and practice our religion, it is not a tourist destination nor it will ever be because that's offensive.
In conclusion, you may ask "why did they destroy it anyway?" I could infinitely go on about the reasoning but it's not as many people believe "Wahabism," it is mainly to avoid people from praying to other people, or worshipping them, or thinking they're anywhere near Allah, in fact this isn't new or recent when the Prophet SWT died a lot of people left the religion, not just that but some people actually partially worshipped the Prophet SWT, people were devastated, Abu Bakar as-Siddiq (on of the Prophet's SWT greatest friends) on that day said "if you worship Muhammed SWT then he's dead, but if you worship Allah he's immortal," he mainly said this to make people realize our religion is based on worshipping Allah not anyone else we only follow the Prophet's SWT steps, he's not a god nor a supernatural, he's also human. At the end of the day I don't want to go too long about this, destroying most of them was for the better to avoid any deviations or any people wanting to worship someone else along with Allah as this is forbidden, eventually most of them were only historic sites barely religious or important to us whatsoever, of course I'm definitely sad that they were destroyed but I think it's for the better because I do think people should follow the religion thoroughly.
From Abul Hayyaj Al Asadi, he said, "'Ali bin Abi Talib said to me, "Indeed I am sending you with something that the Messenger of Allah - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - sent me with that command. That is, do not leave the statue (image) but destroy it and do not let the grave be high from the ground unless you flatten it." (HR. Muslim no. 969).
Remember! The building above the grave was not built at the time of the Prophet, but several hundred years after.
Thx guys you saved me a lot of time. Also I would like to comment on a thing he said that we do not give the rights for our woman in Saudi Arabia, but actually who made these rights, based on what?? Our rights are based on Quran the holly islamic book. Your rights are based on a country and people, our women are happy and we are proud of them too. 🇸🇦💚💚💚💚💚💚
Jazāk Allāhu Khayran
Destroy your father's grave
The hight of the graves are according to Sunnah which al saud and al shaikh has destroyed and the graves which was destroyed belongs to non muslims, you mean to say after the dead of رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم تسليما كثيرا ما لا نهاية وغير محدود Muslim has raised the hight of the graves against Subbah? and in which time the Muslims has increased the hight of the graves against sunnah? Try to understand the haidth its says Destroy every statue and garves meaning they were belongs to yahood and nasara not Muslims try to understand the true meaning of grave hight and length according to sunnah not wahhabism, if you can't understand this they it's you choice.
And by the way
Thanks for your videos
I appreciate it 👍👍
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Great video !
thanks for the great unbiased Video
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."
I believe that most of the historical sites that have been destroyed are for practical reasons.
Statistics can be deceptive; most of the historical buildings destroyed are where the current mosque stands today.
One and a half billion people want to go to Mecca only 2 million can be there at a time and Haj happens only once a year.
If Saudi Arabia does not expand capacity they’ll be criticized for being exploitive.
There is demand for hotels with a view on the mosque, this is what we Muslims dream for and therefore it gets built.
All the infrastructure in Mecca is very practical, other religious sites like Medina are better preserved since the necessity is not as profound.
Yeah nothing to do with wahabbism 😂
@@harukrentz435 What is wahabism? You really don't seem to know what Wahhabis are.
From Abul Hayyaj Al Asadi, he said, "'Ali bin Abi Talib said to me, "Indeed I am sending you with something that the Messenger of Allah - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - sent me with that command. That is, do not leave the statue (image) but destroy it and do not let the grave be high from the ground unless you flatten it." (HR. Muslim no. 969).
Remember! The building above the grave was not built at the time of the Prophet, but several hundred years after.
@@FitraRahim are you d3ns3? The saudi gov didnt just destroy statues or leveled up graves they also destroy homes where the wives and companions of mohammad once resided, did Ali also tell you to destroy their homes? Also nice of you for using hadist instead of quran. Hadist is the root of muslims problem today, isis and al qaeda are based on hadists.
@@harukrentz435 There’s no such a thing as Wahhabi Islam. In Saudi Arabia there’s no one knows what Wahhabi even means. It’s just a slur name created by radical Iranian Shia’a to insult Saudis. What Saudi Arabia follows is Suni Islam, which’s based on the holy Quran and the Sunnah (way of life) of prophet Mohammed. So beware of taking your stories from sources backed by the enemy of Saudi Arabia to explain what’s happening in Saudi Arabia.
30 million people visited Karbala this years, place filled with historical sites, even places where a battle horse fell is marked, so please stop with this bullshit logic, Saudi arabia is not accepting even 10% of that pilgrims.
As an imam, the Meca is for tourism only, not for prayers. It's a billion dollar business of Saudi Arabia.
Imam ? Whoat are you fine with that ?
@@bb.redd1t Of course it's our business to make money just like you. We call it spiritual business, our goal is to make money 👍
@@AnoNymous-qx4tf i haven't laughed so hard for a while
actually the things that the Saudis are doing at Mecca right now with the skyscrapers n power hunger etc. had already been predicted 1800 years ago by Prophet Muhammad, which are indications that we are very very near to the end of the world.
That works if you you are a Muslim, I am not.
Im not disrespecting your personal beliefs, but they are not an objective truth for everybody.
We are doimed because with all of our intellect, we refuse to work together as a whole, instead we have been getting better at killing each other for 200,000 years.
As a Native American, we are just one species on this planet.
If humans need to wreck themselves so that the rest of the world can live in peace, so be it. We are the most destructive, polluting useless shit that's ever evolved.
Since the beginning of the world, people have been saying we are near the end of the world
Except that he was only born about 1400 years ago...
Very interesting video!...I always thought the giant clock tower and the neighboring buildings of the Abraj Al Bait looked out-of-place next to the Great Mosque. Having said that though - I completely understand why these kinds of large projects are necessary to support the millions of pilgrims that visit Mecca each year...but - as you mentioned near the end of the video - I am sure these mega infrastructure projects could've been done in a way that does not "bulldoze" history. I think the problem with how Saudi Arabia is approaching this is that the process is so "absolute" (i.e. there is no going back once these historical sites are gone). I might be wrong about this since the video did not specifically comment on this fact - but I am getting the impression that as these historical sites are paved over, there doesn't seem to be any attempt to officially record what is being lost (even if just through detailed imaging). I can't help but feel that at some time in the future (maybe generations from now), Saudi Arabia might end up regretting the destruction of part of its cultural heritage. There have been more than a few examples in history where - in hindsight - one generation sadly regrets the loss (accidental or deliberate) of cultural/architectural legacies that took place in a previous generation. And while a society can learn from this regret....that doesn't change the fact that what has been lost, has been lost forever.
We can never be sure if stories of the past are true so much related by ancestors is tribal fiction . Over attention to structures may lead to a form of shirk, which is why statues are forbidden in Islam.
They destroy historical sites, but they are owned by materialistic way of life to the point they somewhat worship them, how ironic
im a muslim and I found this very un-biased, good work
This video or saudi gov's actions?
I don't believe their rhetoric for one second. Only last week they erected a statue for the Crown Prince in Riadh. This is against Islam itself Because Statutes are idols.
If you looking at the urban planning in the City of Mecca, You will not find any improvements or developments. The old city looks like Bangladesh. Especially if you compare Mecca and Medina to Riyadh Saudi Arabia.
Thank you very much for a beautiful report
Lots of Saudi Arabia videos brother!! Be careful out there, we don't want to lose you!!
Hahaha, hopefully I’m not making anyone mad
The squeaky wheel gets the grease lol
@@LogicallyAnswered Bro they seeking the people out so be warned lol
@Madhur Kumar Chugh_021 Remember Assange too, but never see these kind of comments when it's about USA ..🤡🤣
oh you mean the "religion of peace"?
I didn’t know that Saudi Arabia was destroying this many of their historical sites.
They are doing so because Mecca has ZERO archaeological evidence and The Saudi Arabia Government wants to sweep the truth under the rug so nobody gets able to question them.
Arabs are an anotourage of li*ars and charl*atans.
To any arab still thinking sunnies who built these sites and monuments did it for worshipping idols or Graves. That's silly. I still don't get why so many still have these misconceptions about them. You never do worship or ask the buried for help. You pray for them and to Allah. Grave stones are there to be located.
They turned it to MEGA sopping Center, than Religion Place. Astagfirullah Astagfirullah Astagfirullah.
Thay's exactly what the Saudi Arabian government wants to make of Mecca, a Shopping plaza, because they know that Islam is a business fueled by the 1.8 deceived Muslims around the globe.
Saudi arabia does not have a single archeological evidence of Mecca B.C. and that happens because it is a 7th century fabrication created and reformed by the Abassids in the 9th century.
I'm wishing for the day that these countries end their oil reserves. Really...
في احلامك 🤣
@@sa90far sorry, but there's no discusion that they actually end... But there will be better technologies that will make those states go down earlier, don't worry. No oil county will remain rich
We will always survive and thrive as we are diversifying our economy that would be enough to burn through your Liberal heart
@@sa19h1j ser how long can you sourvive having everyone on daddy state's payroll
Glad to see you again brother!! Hope you have an amazing week!!
Thank you Daniel, I wish you the same!
Damn so much Saudi videos, thats alot of research and i hope you were using incognito or vpn to stay out of the radar.
Hahaha 🤞
@@LogicallyAnswered He did it, bcz of views. Saudi things, got people to click the videos. (But sadly, you didn't do well in previews vides about Aramco, which you were don't put Saudi clearly on your title, thats why it got stuck at 50K+ viewers)
@@FitraRahim I agree what this guy is doing is fitnah
Finally someone notice. this channel is nothing but spreading propaganda against Saudis.
@@azm01 yep
When you stated the first fact about prophet's first wife house I immediately knew how you done your research.
Please share the link! 🙏
It's all about cementing legitimacy. Anything to raise doubts must be crushed.
You're not muslim, you don't have the right to talk about it, especially when you don't understand it's Islamic fatwa. They did it for the greater good. To day the mosque can be used by 5 million people every day. More than the residents of many cities
Ok, "Christian".
It's about expanding the city as it is the most holiest place. Everything that isn't needed should be removed as Islam is only gonna keep growing
@@arifahmedkhan9999 yeah 1 day wahabiat will demolish kabba and the masjid haram for the expension of makkah, this is mentality
@@muzaharsherazi8419 you are a fitna creator
@@muzaharsherazi8419 No one can say that there was someone who served Mecca and Medina and the pilgrims more than us throughout history. Praise be to God, everyone who came for Hajj and Umrah knows this perfectly. What have you done for Muslims but to help non-Muslims in their attack on us? Bad deed, it will not benefit you in the hereafter.
0:23 he was not founder of Islam, he was our last prophet
He was founder
@@jabakiller1025 he(SAW) was the seal of the Prophets
@@KingFaisal2006 he was pedo
@@jabakiller1025 you must be a liberal
@@KingFaisal2006 no iam not
I support social free market
If you see the hajj quotas in place, the countries that have a more Wahhabis outside of Saudi, Indonesia has been allocated almost 10 times more people than a lot of other Muslim countries even.
Love the videos man, alway look forward and click immediately! Great work keep it up!
Thank you so much Napa! Glad you enjoy them!
Visiting these sites worshipping a site or person
It's historical like any museum
Glad to hear they look after their citizens which some other oil rich countries in Africa do not do.
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Yea bcoz british colonised them 🦅🦅🦅🦅
Saudi was also colonized tho first by ottomans then British
@@Gmthekiller where are u reading ur history from? Britain nvr colonised saudi in fact helped saudis to remove ottoman and also ottoman just developed every area they ruled and they nvr exploited any area
@@user-vf1es6py7h ur pfp tells us who u loves
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Perhaps the Saudi Royal family know in their wisdom that today's Mecca was only built in 715CE and Petra, Jordan was the original Kaaba sanctuary.
They know everything from P1$$l4m as nothing more than terrible AO3/Wattpad story😂😂😂
I loved this video.
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Can you please do video about central government reserves and how they differ from sovereign wealth fund
Love your videos great work
I disagree about the clock tower and feels it needs to be torn down ASAP
That Mecca today is not the Mecca that Muhammad supposidly lived in. He lived in Petra which was also called Mecca by a few. This Mecca was created by the Abassids in 800 ad 200 years after Muhammad supposidly lived.
Source : According to western.
@@FitraRahim You know westerners they use logic, reasoning, and evidence to determine what the best argument is given the oldest and original sources.
@@joshuagenes No you didn't. Western just using their hatred & feeling to attack Muslim, to justify Muslim is wrong, and make they feel in right direction.
Muslim know better about their religion, even your religion than yours. If western using their logic and start reading their bible there is no X+an left, even US invasion in Iraq not gonna happen. What evidence WMD you talking about? You just made up hoax, talk to other westerners to support your war, and unfortunately they believe your hoax. This is standard logic & evidence that western talking about??? Please don't be joking 😁.
Rubbish 😂
@@achmad6962 In Petra you actual have 2 mountains to run between in todays Mecca only 2 rocks. Petra also fits the biblical description of where Hagar was dropped off. Also there is pre-Islamic Christian churches built to commemorate the event on Safwa and Marwah. Todays Mecca has nothing acheologically before 800 ad. Most certainly not some grand ancient city.
stop with the click bait propaganda already, you decontextualize almost all of your videos surrounding saudi arabia
great video man, have a killer week
Thanks bro, you too!
great vid brother! have never been this early
Thank you for being early Fahim!
Alhamdulillah for Salafiyyah.
As a saudi historian who graduated from Saudi Arabia , i was sad about this cuz any history student will know that the government destroyed makkah .. and some people got threats from the government if they publish any thing against their agenda , thank you very much for this video, a lot of people now will see how kings use religion on their way
الهدم جاء بسبب التوسعة الثالثة..
والله ما اظن انك سعودي يارجال
From Abul Hayyaj Al Asadi, he said, "'Ali bin Abi Talib said to me, "Indeed I am sending you with something that the Messenger of Allah - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - sent me with that command. That is, do not leave the statue (image) but destroy it and do not let the grave be high from the ground unless you flatten it." (HR. Muslim no. 969).
Remember! The building above the grave was not built at the time of the Prophet, but several hundred years after.
@@FitraRahim yea literally at the time of the prophet it was houses made of trees roof and this was the rich, but the time of the eighth Umayyad caliph he built a building in the prophet house
@@FitraRahimat the time of the Ottoman Empire the pilgrims are less than a 100k now they are above 500k daily
I am a Muslim and I truly hate what the Saudi are doing
Do you know why they did it? Because it took a lot of space that is used by pilgrims nowadays. Imagine the mosque being small, underdeveloped, uncomfortable and unreliably built as it was before. Don't hear it from a western perspective, but from an Islamic one, if you are a real Muslim
Interesting video for sure.
Thank you Philip!
this video has gotten me interested in Saudi Arabia. and How dependent is the untied states on Saudi Arabia?
The 3G slogan was actually popularized by the Spanish and Portuguese crusaders when they colonized other nations, 3G is gospel, gold, glory.
but spanish and portugese don't speak english tho
@@rssyng neither the saudi. The 3G slogan was not invented by the Spaniards, the slogan was a description of European colonialism in general, the Spanish and Portuguese were the first to do it / popularize it.
There is nothing called "Wahhabism", its a Turkish term describing the grp of people who took the Arabian peninsula back from them. It is not a sect of Islam.
Wahabism conducted taqiya more blatantly than shiah in modern era
It’s is called wahabism because they follow the teaching of Abd wahab
The wahab group even tried to shift the grave of our prophet but there was such a huge revolt from Muslims from around the world that they had to shut that plan
im really impressed by your research for this video and i 100 percent agree with you as a muslim and i also dont like wahhabism bec it was made by A guy called abdul wahab and u can search abt him bec too long 4 a comment.
I have been to Mecca and have performed Umrah. I disagree with a lot of points made here.
The expansion of Mecca was necessary
this is about the destruction
not the "expansion"
like what expansion you even mean?
@@itzpro5951 expansion of the whole of harram, most of these houses were built 30m away from the kabaa, judging from today 1 million annual hajj imagine trying to fit them all with houses all around the harram, they had to make way and demolish most of the old buildings, after all these buildings are unnecessary for worship and has no value religiously speaking, so why shouldn’t it be demolished
so its oke to build house of Prophets first wife who spent all her fortune for Islam as toilets ?
@@syedbaqir2687 who said it was toilets have u ever been there before ?
@@syedbaqir2687it doesn’t matter what was put there - we do not worship the prophets wife” we don’t not worship the prophet - we don’t not worship a house - we are not idol worshippers- if it’s in the way of Muslims who need to make hajj then it has to go. We worship Allah & Allah alone. I use my prayer rug sometimes for a pillow or blanket - it’s just a rug
What exactly is wahabi Islam?I'm a Muslim from a country in east Africa and never heard of such terminology?
Who created this name?
Well,while Saudi government may have caused unprecedented magnitude of cultural vandalism,I hold the opinion that those structures were either expanded to accommodate the ever growing Muslim pilgrim.
Furthermore,we don't worship the prophet house nor that of his companion.
Much as those structures maybe vital for future generations of Muslims for it serves as a tangible evidence that indeed those Muslim leaders existed at one stage in time, thus proving their very existence beyond myth, building boarding and lodging for Muslims faithful too is not only vital but essential all together.
By the way both Sunni and Shia believe during the end time people will start worshiping things other than the God. And so it is actually a big fear amongst both big sect of Islam to prevent than from happening but you are absolutely correct this is erasing history. But I wanted to point out the context and fear amongst Muslims and why there isn’t much outrage on this matter.
We Shia don't like destroying graves of Holy People.
Oh dear, better not stop worshipping god, that could bring the end times!
Its definitely a mystake. If they just let Mekka develop themselves and protect its architecture they could have a naturally build old city with a solid income base. Thats what they desperately need sometimes too much involvement isnt positive.
How stupid, makkah is for pilgrimage, we need a city that can accommodate millions a day, not photograph takers.
Hundreds of millions, if not billions of muslims wish to come here, making it as large, developed and comfortable as possible is the best way to serve the pilgrims
That's plainly wrong. Makkah is a holy city for pilgrimage. It doesn't make sense to keep huts made of mud and stones which would just hinder the path of the worshippers.
the city isn’t meant for income, it’s city of worship, not make money off it, you never even seen the pictures in it or the buildings they teared down, they tore down because it was old and decrepit
@@Omer1996E.C Maybe i dont get ypur religiom than. What kind of pilgrimage is it if all the holy sites have been bulldozed? And thats an honest question i really don’t understand.
@@johnnyboy3410 Ok than forget the money part but a holy city meant for pilgrim is not worth protecting?
أعتدنا على هذه الفيديوهات والتقارير الاعلامية تجاه السعودية لا سيما وقت أرتفاع اسعار النفط.😅😂
You know nothing about this case, but you made the video anyway
the purpose of Makkah is for Umra and Hajj and to serve a lot of Muslims. They need services and infrastructure, not old cities and historical places, because it is for worship, not tourism.
Saudi Arabia has expanded the holy mosque extraordinary to make it easy for millions of Muslims to visit Makkah and do the Hajj and Umra safely.
yet so many Muslims from so many countries, nations and schools, were either sad, depressed or angry, because destruction of that sites. Why Mecca need to be THE ONLY sacred place in the world, which is completely free of history, while usually sacred places are completely immersed in history, in prayers and hopes of hundreds of generations which visited them, and physical remains from all that ages?
Whenever there's a new logically answered video I become happy
Saudi govt has the whole islamic community in a chokehold.
No one would dare to criticise them.
They have the entire sunni muslim world in a chokehold yes, not Shia. We are their opponents.
Muslims do criticize them though
@@Wartenss Indeed we do
no, we do, lot of times
In Islam we don't idolize (worship) any men
We follow the teachings of Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) and worship only one Almighty.
About Mecca, it is not a tourist spot, it has value only because of Islam,
Muslims go there for pilgrimage so, the pilgrims must be given the upmost value, comparing to that value of some old building is none.
And about Saudi Govt they are doing the right thing to prevent any scope of "Shirk"
Why should we care what you do in that ideology? Destroy it all... And there are no god, allah, or prophets. In a maximum of 10 years, they will have no more oil, and then that evil kingdom that sponsors a radical version of already radical religion will fall as a tower of cards. They are able to do what they want just because of that oil, not that imaginary character you think exists.
Mohammed was a man
he won’t like this comment because he has his white western agenda
Your faith must have been so thin then...
@@harukrentz435
From Abul Hayyaj Al Asadi, he said, "'Ali bin Abi Talib said to me, "Indeed I am sending you with something that the Messenger of Allah - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - sent me with that command. That is, do not leave the statue (image) but destroy it and do not let the grave be high from the ground unless you flatten it." (HR. Muslim no. 969).
Remember! The building above the grave was not built at the time of the Prophet, but several hundred years after.
The clocktower has nothing to do with the Kaaba. It's just stupid tourist building.
this video was unexpected but highly appreciated!
Very interesting video, keep it up!
Thanks man!
your view on this is completely false, it's just about money very simple.
plus it's owned by Saudis and they can do whatever they want in their own country don't you think?
Makkah is like the Vatican 🇻🇦
City in a country
That represents a religious figure
@@davidthewise6617 people don't go to the vatican as a pilgrimage, Israel is closer to it.
the kaaba is the only thing they care about because it brings the money.
It makes ~$150B every year.
Yeah fair enough
@@Ibrahim-nd2xw Oil make more money for the country. You don't force to Ka'ba if you don't have capability to do that (money, health, etc).
@@FitraRahim You are nice if you think there is such thing called enough money or power. MBS wealth was 1 trillion dollar 2 years ago and now it's 2 trillion dollar, why didn't he say it's enough I'll stop it 1 trillion?
Because you alwayse want more.
About forcing it still makes150 billion what you said is irrelevant.
well those aren't the cultural heritage of Saudi.
3:40 not sure why when you look at this you think of the word "glorious"
Because it has Allah's name on it. Simply put.
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I mean those sites survived a thousands years, saw all sorts of people and people never worshipped anyone until these guys came into power and suddenly all hell broke loose and people started worshipping those that they felt the need to raze everything to the ground?
That's nuts if anyone absolutely believes they destroyed everything just because they cared about God or Muslims and not sth else.
Indonesia, their biggest Muslim brother has experienced a massive stampede
Football? Bruh that's not even relevant.
but is their country so....their land their site they are free to do whatever they want with them
It is their country their right! We can not argue with it! 🇸🇦💖🇱🇰
Man I didn’t know they were destroying their own buildings
Quite surprising right
Its really doesnt matter much, as long the kabba is keeped.
Since there no teaching about perserving historical houses or site.
they are not most of the building they’re destroying was built in the early 2000s and are slums with 0 historical value it happens everywhere but yall are too dumb and love to spread miss info
@@LogicallyAnswered From Abul Hayyaj Al Asadi, he said, "'Ali bin Abi Talib said to me, "Indeed I am sending you with something that the Messenger of Allah - sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam - sent me with that command. That is, do not leave the statue (image) but destroy it and do not let the grave be high from the ground unless you flatten it." (HR. Muslim no. 969).
Remember! The building above the grave was not built at the time of the Prophet, but several hundred years after.
@@LogicallyAnswered Quite logical....
Makkah needs to expand if it needs to accomodate all the growing number of muslims.
It is actually one of the core tenants of Islam not to worship anyone but God. It is said in Quran that all previous prophet failed to spread Islam because their followers ended up worshiping things other than God. Example: Jeasus and Moses’s followers.
Correction saudi Arabia is not an Islamic kingdom but a Muslim kingdom country and Islam has nothing to do with any country in the world today.
what Saudi Arabia destroyed has nothing to do with Islam 😊
Just to correct, Prophet muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) is not the founder of Islam. He didn't "create" anything. Everything is from the One Who legislated the laws of Islam, which is, undoubtedly, Allah.
Fact
im a muslim and idk how you find out about this topic
but well put bro, gj keep it up, always loved your videos.
i know the reason. i'm from indonesia sory for my bad english.
a muslim in my country some of them still doing something forbiden in islam. for exaple making talisman from something a prophet muhammad left behind, or a piece of cloth from kakbah and etc. because they belive jts have a magical power, or giving them what they want, and so on..
They aren’t destroying history😂. They do this because it is stated in the Quran that there many instances where religions fall because of statues and places. For example when many generations after adam where they put people on statues just to remember them. And then after many generations they started worshipping them.🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦
2:50 you mention it yourself and you think it's harsh to destroy anything that has the potential to do that?
Yes, it is bad to destroy history.
literally what history ?
@@johnnyboy3410 ancient architecture. It's the reason hundreds of millions of people visit Europe every year. Just to look at Roman ruins, Gothic cathedrals, medieval castles, Art Nouveau buildings, etc.
@@multidoor6928 I’m not talking about Europe, Mecca isn’t city for tourists, it’s city of worship, what ancient architecture did you mean in Mecca ?
I have been a long time fan since like 32k subscribers.I’m a diaspora but still young who lived majority of my life in a third world country, I think in the end of the day as long as the people of Saudi Arabia support and benefit from the trade you kinda can’t say they are trade their culture…. Their culture is theirs to decide.But if the people are in majority displeased with then it’s fair to say they are authoritative.
its amazing how rare it is for someone to understand that saudi culture belongs to saudi people. Thank you for seeing that as in so many conversations i have people think that the lands of saudi's and the tribes that have inhabited it for thoursands of years now belongs to billions of muslims. As a saudi its really annoying to deal with those people who have a deep insighted entitlement to our lands, culture and tradition. Seeing your comment gave me some relief haha
I really appreciate this video. However...how much of European or American history has been destroyed? New York City doesn't have much from its history as New Amsterdam.
In fact, I just watched a video where they were talking about all the mansions surrounding Central Park, that are now gone and replaced by skyscrapers. And even the earlier skyscrapers are being replaced by new skyscrapers! So perhaps, a good video would be about just how much or how little "history" should be preserved. While that would be a very interesting and intensive documentary, it would also stir up a maelstrom of debate and argument on BOTH sides of the issues.
Still..................keep up the good work, regardless of what direction you plan to go!
According to another documentary, apart from the first mosque(?) in Jerusalem the next 11(?) that can be dated chronologically are all pointing to Petra, the first one to point to Mecca is about 800AD in Pakistan. There doesn't appear to be an important settlement before that in the archeological record(?). So perhaps the sites in Mecca that have been replaced weren't there in the first place? And the notices about the unreliability of the previous narratives about the site are just being accurate? I'm not sure what the present title is, the program used to be 'The sacred city Mecca, is it in the right place?',and freely available on RUclips. Your piece was very interesting , Thank you.
You mean "The sacret city" by Dan Gibson.
I remember that only the Indian version took out a protest against it.
A lot of videos about Saudi Arabia
I'm thinking that you either have a lot of Saudi viewers, OR there are a lot of subjects about Saudi Arabia that are interesting and that get views
from Saudi btw
There’s a lot to talk about hahaha!
I think he started just reading up on oil and then one thing led to the next. So why waste all that research?
@@LogicallyAnswered Like i said before, you did it, bcz of viewers = money. There's alot of country around the world, but you realize that putting Saudi in the title would increase your views.
@@FitraRahim 👏👏
around 1980 there was a revolt in Makka where the Wahhabists took control over Majid alHaram. In the end the government allied with the Wahabists and enforced new religious laws, like banning TV. And its also why the government has to promote Wahhabism.
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Thank you for the insights. A small comment, prophet Muhammad PBUH has not founded Islam, Islam is not man-made, as the last prophet, he carried god's message that came to all the prophets before him from prophet Ibrahim to him.
Errors in the Quran about Abraham
Another series of errors in the Quran is about Abraham. Abraham never visited Arabia nor a nonexistent city in his time called Mecca or Baca. He was never there. The Bible is very accurate on geography and who went where. We can still find these places today based on the Bible description. Abraham according to Genesis was never in Arabia. Muslims can’t admit this because Islam falls apart if this is true, but it is true! The Quran claims that Abraham built the Kaaba and mosque in Mecca 40 years before Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem which would have been 990 BC. What?! Abraham built his altar on Mount Moriah in Israel in 2,055 BC to sacrifice Isaac. Abraham had been dead 1,000 years by the time of Solomon in 950 BC. Too many chronological and historical errors in the Quran.
Every religion claims that their not man made
''The glorious clock tower''😮Yeh, if you say so☹
They even tried to demolish the prophet’s tomb in the early era of saud kingdom. This what brought indonesian muslims create nahdatul ulama to do negotiation with them.
Saudi got too many protest from muslim all over the world back then.
So they canceled their plan, they didnt touch the prophet’s tomb, but still they flatten any other graves and historical buildings.
We live in a world revolving around money and SA is no exception. At least, they know that and haven't fallen behind.
Daniel Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦
Is only rich because of the treasure of Makkah the Abraham prays
“ keep the land safe and give its people a fortune “
@@davidthewise6617 It's only rich because it has oil. And their oil reserves will last for some 10 years... They were an insignificant tribe, so insignificant that the Ottomans didn't even bother to conquer them or their patch of dry desert. But, the discovery of oil gave them money, not some imaginary character, god. By supporting that type of radical version of already radical religion, they will doom themself.
They have oil.
@@CordeliaWagner they make a lot of money from Hajj and Umrah.
Some figures put the numbers around 150 billion per year.
While I am no fan of Saudi Arabia, this title and thumbnail is quite clickbaity. I do not approve.
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@@LogicallyAnswered Yeah, you did it because money oriented (more views = more money). You might be annoyed to see my comments everywhere here
Pardon my ignorance, but…if Wahhabism and Islam condemns the worshiping of anything other than God, what’s the point of hajj?
Isn’t the pilgrimage to Mecca in the same route by focusing on the Kaaba and the city?
No hate here, I’m genuinely curious.
If the original Muslims did it, who are the Wahhabists to say any different?
Definitely on par with real life lore
That means a lot haha!
Even better than RLL