how long are the rear speaker wires? trying to figure out if they would reach behind my couch because where i will have to put the sub the wire for the left rear speaker will have to go 10 ft then make a 90 degree and go another 7 ft or so
I love mi Vizio m51 but the rears speaker the sound is not constantly, it cut and comeback, it is weird, any subjections about? Thanks for your video,,
Thanks for the video man. Did you plug the HDMI cables directly into the sound bar when you tested Dolby Atmos? You’d be able to get a better feel for it on the Vizio for sure when doing so.
Great job, constructive feedback though reduce the bloopers/sound effects etc it was very distracting to the point I was more focused on that rather than what you had to say. Otherwise great video
Very well done video and i think you will definitely go far with youtube, Thumbs up, and subscribed. One gripe, i think the comparison would have been better if you compared the LG SN7R vs Vizio SB36512-F6. Same price point, same 5.1.2 and same range in other categories. I still prefer the Vizio after self-research and trying both but would have been nice to see are more apples to apples comparison.
Great question! In a nutshell, since they have to cram so many components into the compact footprint of a soundbar, the quality of those components can only be so high. When a receiver is the one processing the audio signal, it will just handle it better. It has better internal components and can handle the cacophony of loud action scenes more than a soundbar. The Vizio was definitely impressive, with an easy time hooking it all up, but the receiver+speakers setup is still better overall
wish one from this vizio sb46514 F6 Vs the JBL Bar 5.1 - Channel 4K Ultra HD Soundbar with True Wireless Surround, you got a chance to make a duel? grate video keep it up
That would be great! Let’s hope JBL and VIZIO get wind of this channel and start sending me stuff to go head-to-head! Tell all your friends to subscribe! 😄👍
I have the LG soundbar sp7r and yes it does lack bass and the sound quality is really bad like i can't seem to make it sound clear and have bass on it when i play some movies which is why in my opinion i think its time to upgrade to something better like the polk s4 can you tell me ur opinion about if i should get the polk s4?
Hey man, I really enjoyed the review, as I have enjoyed all of your content. I'm just curious, and I'm sure you've answered this many times, how would you compare the Vizio here to the Klipsch cinema 600. I am strongly considering the Vizio as the price is just under 600 but have heard some good things about the Klipsch. Having, or not having atmos, is not a deal breaker for me. I am looking for good clean sound and also good deep bass, but bass that doesn't sound too over powering or muddy. I currently have a LG 2.1 soundbar and am looking for something with a little deeper bass and a center channel for better vocals, as they can get lost with the soundbar that I currently have. Any info or feedback that you could provide would be awesome. Thanks!!!!
Thanks, Aaron! I’m not cool enough to have gotten my hands on a Cinema 600 yet. BUT…I do trust Andrew Robinson on the subject, and he swears by the Cinema 600 for what you get considering its price, even without Atmos. Andrew’s review I linked below. Check it out! ruclips.net/video/a8nY4CVuJ0M/видео.html
@@ealanosborne Well, if I were running the show at Klipsch, I would send you a soundbar to test. I just checked out Andrew's review and not only did I sub to his channel, but I believe his video swayed me into choosing the Klipsch over the Vizio. Now, it's time to start saving a little cash for the soundbar. Thank you for the prompt reply and I will be looking forward to more awesome content.
Hello again. New to the channel and just found this video. I did buy the Visio 5.1.2 model (which I guess is the model below this one)and have been very happy over all. Other then having some issues getting Dolby Atoms to work on various streaming services that claim to offer it the sound is great. Even non Atmos. The question I have is can you explain the difference in the settings on surround balance and Surround volume. Thank you and keep up the good work the videos are great.
Surround balance means adjusting the audio left to right. Maybe one surround speaker had to be placed a little farther away from you than the other, depending on your setup, so adjusting the balance would help even that out. Surround volume adjusts the overall loudness of the surround speakers. 👍🙌
It was really unfortunate that I had a lemon when it came to the rear surround speakers squealing quietly on the VIZIO, but was impressed with the system overall. That sub held its own, and I also have a large living room w/ 10’ ceilings. I haven’t heard the JBL in person, and since it’s a soundbar alone, I can only recommend the Vizio since it has surround speakers, which is a nice touch. And the JBL sub looks a tad smaller than the Vizio, so w/ a large living room I don’t think it’ll have enough power. If you can spend a little more, get that Vizio, yo! 😄
I love my Vizio M512a-H6. It was $350 for black friday and it has some upfiring speakers and they surprisingly sound solid for dolby atmos content. Its adds height to the scenes
I recently got the Vizio 36 inch model, the only difference is the sound bar is 36 inches instead of 46, and the subwoofer is a 6 inch, not a 10 inch. The sound bar and rear speakers still have those up firing speakers, and I put my ear to it and heard no static like sound or interference, so maybe yours had interference or faulty rear speakers?
I appreciate you taking the time to make this video, it is informative and helpful with making a decision about the LG sound bar. Based on your review I think I’m going to stay away from that one. And now I’m at the point that I will not pay for any more of these vizio‘s products. I have found just because they’re more expensive their recent products simply do not perform well, and has many issues. Including the $2000 quantum series television. So I will also give a little bit of constructive criticism, while I find your content extremely useful and informative all of the cuts and bloopers is extremely distracting. I do think it’s cute and cool to do it once or twice throughout the video but you did it way too many times, at least for my taste. Please don’t consider the shade or trolling just an honest observation. But like I said thank you for the information.
Thanks Mark. No shade whatsoever. This was my 2nd product review video ever which I posted a year ago. I’ve learned a lot since then. This is my least favorite review for a number of reasons, and I’m the one that made it! 😄 But you can’t get better at something until you put in the work, so I’m happy with how my channel has progressed and evolved since Sept 2020. 🤘😀
You can’t beat LG OLED. But yes, I think Samsung TVs are a good 2nd place to LG. And Klipsch Cinema 400? Definitely. My in-laws have that, and I’m tellin’ you...that subwoofer is bonkers. It’s the same downward-firing, wireless sub that I got in my Reference Theater Pack, so I know it packs a punch. And you get that bright Klipsch clarity with the soundbar itself. You might honestly get complaints in an apartment with the Cinema 400 subwoofer in action. So that probably means you HAVE to get it, right? 🤣👍
The Samsung is ok, but super light on tech. No Atmos, no DTS-x, no dolby plus. The LG he reviewed here and the 299 vizio 5.1.2 system both have the better tech.
How does the Vizio compares to the Klipsch Reference Theater Pack 5.1? Is the Klipsch a lot better? How big is the gap? (side note: don't care that much about atmos)
As long as you have a receiver to power the Klipsch Theater Pack, I think it’s much better than the VIZIO. Sure, the Theater Pack doesn’t have the height aspect, shooting audio towards the ceiling line the VIZIO does, but it’s a better, wider more discrete soundstage than a soundbar. 👍
Why would you compare LG's entry Dolby Atmos 5.1.2 setup to a system that's twice as expensive?...that really doesn't seem fair...you should get a lot more for twice the money, which all you did was confirm. A better comparison would be the LG SN7R vs Vizio's entry level Dolby Atmos 5.1.2 system the Vizio SB36512-F6, now that would be interesting. I have the LG system in my bedroom and I think it performs great, by the way....but I would buy a better system for my living room because it's twice as big. Tip for future videos....try to compare relatively evenly priced products.
Yep! I was mostly curious about how an entry level 5.1.2 Atmos soundbar system COULD compare to a slightly more expensive option. That and I could order both thru Costco, so that made it easy to get my hands on each system. Your tip has been noted! Thanks for watching, Marcel!
@@MasterPGC The Vizio system that is on sale is not the one he uses in his review. The one on sale is Vizio's entry level Dolby Atmos 5.1.2 (the sb36512-f6) which is what he should have compared the LG SN7R to. In the video he compared it to the Vizio sb46514-f6, which costs $799 (I think I've seen it on sale for $699 before), so it should be significantly better in performance and build quality. Thus this video comparison is useless.
@@marcelcarter846 Oh I know that. I was agreeing with you and saying that the similar models are at both the same price point. He definitely should of compared those two instead of this ridiculous matchup.
Hey, I just bought the LG one because it was on a huge sale so i could get it for $300 which seemed to be a good price. It seemed like you really shat on the LG soundbar but is it worth the price I paid for it? I am having difficulty figuring out deciding because you compared it to a system which would be 2.5x the price so obviously the other one is better.
Yeah, for $300 that’s a great deal. It didn’t work in my living room with 10’ ceilings and open concept design. I have no idea what your situation is, but ideally upward firing Atmos speakers are best with 8’ ceilings and having a more isolated living room. I did a review on the Polk React sound bar system which I think still sounds better, but doesn’t have Atmos capabilities. 🤷♂️ So it just depends on your situation. And ultimately, if it sounds good to you? Awesome! 😀🤘
@@ealanosborne hey thanks for the response. It arrived yesterday and I am very disappointed. Now I can understand why you didn't recommend it. There are a few things you didn't mention which are deal breakers for me which you might want to spend more time covering in other reviews. The problem I had are more on the feature and user experience side. 1 this LG sound system doesn't seem to be compatible with my universal remote,this remote has been compatible with everything else I've ever used that take IR inputs. 2 I've used Vizio sound are before and they have a virtual surround sound setting called surround dual which essentially uses the sound speakers when there is only stereo input. This is very useful to keep the volume a little lower if you have roommates or kids because you can have the rear speakers on and since they are closer to you, you can have the volume lower. The LG speaker has no such input or if there is one it is difficult to find and not in the instructions which is just as bad as not having it. 3 if I use the remote to change the sound effect on the soundbar it just displays "not supported" idk if this is because the input is pcm but with my previous Vizio soundbar I could still change the sound mode. This is very important with this soundbar because by default it seems to have a volume equalizer on so loud scenes become quieter and quiet scenes become louder. This setting is aweful. I watched John wick with it on and gun shots and explosions were quiet and lame but voices in quiet scenes were overly loud. Also if you realize it is on you will start to notice the soundtrack going annoying up and down with the natural increase or decrease of volume. This makes the volume seem erratic and completely takes me out of the movie when someone whispering in one scene is louder than a thumping bass in a club in the next scene. If it is possible to change these things I think I need to use the app which (if you see the 2.5 star rating) doesn't work very well and for most people can't even connect to the speaker. These are deal breakers for me. I have had for less than 24 hours but I'm am returning as soon as my new soundbar arrives. I decided to pick up VIZIO SB36514-G6 36" 5.1.4 which is more than I wanted to spend originally but seems like a good middle ground to the set up you had featured in the video. Sorry for the novel lol
I have an idea for a possible budget costco battle. They have the R-41M bookshelf speakers on sale for $90 right now. What if you added those to the $350 sale price Reference Theatre pack and use them for front Left and Right? Then use the smaller Reference speakers for your atmos ceiling speakers. Whether you mount on the ceiling or just point them upward. That might be able to enter for budget atmos. Negative is finding a decent receiver to handle that many channels. Im new to this and still learning whats available. A $700 receiver now puts the modified reference theater set over 1000 and not a fair battle to the Visio. For those smaller speakers can you get away with a receiver half that price?
That’s a great idea!! The Denon s750H you can get for $499 which is a 7.1 Dolby Atmos-ready receiver. So since there are 7 channels to play with, you could make the 5.1.2 system you were referring to. Def prefer speakers that point directly at the listening position, as opposed to firing off the ceiling, so mounting them on the ceiling or in the corner of the ceiling would be ideal. But $350 for 5.1, $500 for receiver, $90 for bookshelf speakers, yeah that’s $1,000+, but would still be a larger sound stage and a discrete Atmos setup. I bet that Denon receiver will go on sale for $400 at some point, so then that could really be worth it!
Haha! Silly me. Of course Costco has the Denon AVR-S750H for $429 compared to Best Buy’s price of $499. I also wonder what Costco’s price would be on SALE? Maybe even down to $329? I’d keep my eye on that too!
@@ealanosborne also with your knowledge maybe there is a non costco receiver that could make the system happen for a budget price. Dig your videos its pretty much like watching a stand up comic teach you things. Got to think you have done a few Jim Gaffigan impressions in your life. Hot Pocket!!
Haha! Since there are SO many product review channels out there, my intention was to create a style unlike all the others, so thanks for the compliments! 😀 And yes, there is the Sony STR-DH790 that is 7.1 and has Dolby Atmos decoding, and it’s only $348, so that could be thrown in the mix too!
Make sure the soundbar is OFF. Press PAIRING button on rear wireless speaker receiver until the yellow/green LED blinks rapidly. Turn ON soundbar. That should do it, according to the instructions.
I didn’t include that because I honestly couldn’t find the answer. Since it’s shaped like a tower, and not a cube, I can’t imagine it’s all that big. Maybe 5 inch, max? Not sure...
If the wife perceive a bad sound, is very bad ahaha again nice video dude. Where is the best place to put the Subwoofer? Btw, hoy many jokes did you heard about Norman Osborn and you?😅 ... I decided go for the Klipsch and now I'm waiting for it. Ass soon they arrived, I will writing you 🙌
Haha! Oddly enough, not a lot of jokes regarding Norman Osborn growing up. Go figure! Congrats on ordering the Klipsch! Since low frequency sound waves are more for feeling than directly hearing, you can place the sub anywhere, really, especially since it’s downward firing. Mine is way up high on a shelf because that’s where it was set up to be by the previous owner of my house. And it still works great! It basically shoots the bass down the wall, which then rumbles my floor. So wherever it might be the most convenient, it should still work fine since it’s so powerful!
The Vizio is $599 at Costco right now and Best Buy. Would you say that is worth it at this point in time? Anything else within that price range? Trying to find a budget atmos for a small bedroom. Thanks, great review!
For a small bedroom, definitely! That subwoofer performed very well in my living room, so the bass would fill up a bedroom easily. And I’m sure the upward firing surrounds would’ve sounded great if I hadn’t gotten a lemon. $599 is a great price!
@@ealanosborne Thanks for the quick reply! I’ve been watching a lot of your videos lately. Very helpful and entertaining, I enjoy the style.. now I’m just wondering if the samsung hw q850t would be a better purchase than this. Plan to to the $1,500 Klipsch build in our family room soon. We just bought a LG CX for a bedroom and want some good sound to go with it. Thanks again
@@TacticoolNinja Hmmm...yeah the Samsung soundbars as a whole have higher ratings, although I haven’t heard the 850t in person, so I can’t be 100% sure that’s still the case. But your plans for upgrading in your living room AND bedroom sound amazing! Thanks for watching! I truly appreciate it!
@@ealanosborne Thanks again greatly appreciated! Trying to order something within the next couple of days. Last question would you recommend this Vizio complete system over the Klipsch reference theater pack 5.1 at Costco? Thank you!
@@TacticoolNinja Well, you’ll need a receiver to power the Reference Theater Pack, so that’ll be an additional expense. But I’ll always personally prefer a receiver+speakers over a soundbar. It’s more work to hook it all up with speaker wire, etc, but more reliable and solid in the end. But I understand the ease and popularity of soundbars these days.
Eh, still just decent. 5 or 6 out of 10? The intense compression (and volume reduction) that happened during loud action scenes took the wind out of the sails, instead of making those scenes exciting. The dialog just gets lost, almost non-existent in those scenes as well.
I appreciate the kind words. Honestly, at the time, it was all I could easily get my hands on. Being a small channel (even smaller when I first made this video) I don’t get companies sending me “free samples” like the big channels, so I figured I’d give it my best shot with what I had access to. This was my 2nd product review ever, so I learned a lot doing it, and have learned a TON since it’s release. Thanks for watching! 😁🙌
My vizio soundbar is 1 step under this vizio in this video The only thing I can say if if you want true dolby atmos or killer sound system Just upgrade to a home theater systen
Agreed with the LG for the most part but I thought it wasn't as horrible as you mentioned. I was just expecting better with Meridian. I returned mine after a week. Another factor was the lack of eARC.
Because you can’t always trust the specs on paper? I almost never pay attention to the total power output number. It’s a marketing ploy to try and wow a customer that might be on the fence. To my ears, the Vizio was just better. Seems to be the consensus online, too. Music and movies.
So I don’t have anything against your complain or complement about each but the idea of comparing Lexus to a Camry is not only ludicrous but also unnecessary.
Haha! I actually don’t own anything VIZIO. This was strictly for the comparison. I actually DO love my LG OLED TV, so I was disappointed with their budget Atmos soundbar. The VIZIO is just better in this instance. 😄👍
Yeah, pretty much. I LOVE my LG OLED TV, so I am an LG fan, for sure. But you get what you pay for, and their cheaper soundbars just have really cheap components internally, and it shows.
@@Avocado818 If you’re able to buy now, Klipsch has a great sale on the Cinema 600 3.1 soundbar. Normally $500, but on sale for $300. Sure, you don’t get full surround with rear satellite speakers, but the soundbar itself sounds crisp, and that wireless subwoofer is powerful! www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1566872-REG/klipsch_1068777_cinema_600_sound_bar.html?ap=y&smp=y
Bogus comparison. I would hope the system that has 2x the Atmos speakers and cost twice as much sounds better. Vizio makes an Atmos system that also sells for 300 and has the same specs as the LG... That would be the true test. Why not compare them both to the Samsung Q950? It's only $1800 One of the major fails of the vizio (all of them) is having to connect the rear speakers to the sub. This is awful. It makes placing the surrounds where they should go nearly impossible, and the sub must be in direct line of sight with the bar to function. Total fail IMO.
Vizio quality is poor, bought 3 different items from them and all of them performed sub par and eventually stopped working /broke in a matter of just 1-3 years(absolute crap). Never again
What terrible comparison video, mismatching price ranges. When you compared the budget LG rear speakers to your Klipsch speakers I immediately knew you have no clue what you're doing, you would've been better showing websites and specs of comparable soundbars.
TBH, what he is saying is true, I have an expert friend at this geek shit (LOL) and what he told me is, if you are trying to attain all these extra channels with a soundbar or even a less expensive receiver, its not really going to work well, and yy would be better off just sticking with a 5.1 system. In other words, if you are going to expand the speakers, you have to expand the power base because each speaker has to be powered separately. Its a core on. In other words, if you truly want great Atmos and you can't quite afford it, just buy one or two pieces at a time or stick with the simple 5.1. Is good enough for small rooms. If you have a large Theatre type room, then by all means go big, but you can't make a purse out of a sow's ear. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I just got this from *C-NET* You don't really need Dolby Atmos 'height' speakers Most receivers in the $500 price range include support for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X, but the effects they have on your home theater movie watching can be subtle, or in most movies: nonexistent. In other words, don't worry about missing out on these new formats if you don't install an extra height speaker or two. Mounting the rear surround speakers high on the wall will get you halfway there in terms of quality, immersive sound. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hearing that, I changed my mind about my Living room (already have a theatre room) and just got the Klipsch 5.1 speaker package, added a 12-inch sub, and used my old receiver, why was still very good. Saved a bundle, and it really rocks.
He didn't use that Vizio model in the video, but you can buy it at BB or Sam's Club right now on sale. He used the Vizio SB46514-F6, that's what makes the review useless...the systems are at two very different price points.
You say you're an audio nut but your audio sounds distant and "roomy", like it was recorded in a giant concrete room. Also your editing is a bit tedious.
Your video editing is insane! lol...well done!
Man I really like your videos, and the fact that you research all ranges of products not just the high end products. Keep them coming 👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you very much! 😀
ARE you sure that your xbox one output was dolby atmos ? did the lg bar mentioned that it was receiving atmos sound in its display ?
how long are the rear speaker wires? trying to figure out if they would reach behind my couch because where i will have to put the sub the wire for the left rear speaker will have to go 10 ft then make a 90 degree and go another 7 ft or so
Excellent explanation of how sound works. I honestly felt like I just graduated from an audio University, pending my certification.
😄 Thanks, Odane!
I love mi Vizio m51 but the rears speaker the sound is not constantly, it cut and comeback, it is weird, any subjections about? Thanks for your video,,
Exceptional video and I appreciate the details explained throughout the video.
You got a like and sub from me, keep up the good work!
Awesome! Thanks so much for the sub sandwich filled with compliments! 😀🙌
Do have a comparison of LG Sn7r and Samsung Q67ct?
Thanks for the video man. Did you plug the HDMI cables directly into the sound bar when you tested Dolby Atmos? You’d be able to get a better feel for it on the Vizio for sure when doing so.
Yep! Used nothing but HDMI cables to connect the soundbar to the TV. 👍
Great job, constructive feedback though reduce the bloopers/sound effects etc it was very distracting to the point I was more focused on that rather than what you had to say. Otherwise great video
Awesome edits, nice tunes, humor AND informative? Subscribe button smashed!
Thanks so much!!!
Very helpful. Thanks bro
Very well done video and i think you will definitely go far with youtube, Thumbs up, and subscribed. One gripe, i think the comparison would have been better if you compared the LG SN7R vs Vizio SB36512-F6. Same price point, same 5.1.2 and same range in other categories.
I still prefer the Vizio after self-research and trying both but would have been nice to see are more apples to apples comparison.
Did you buy either one? I’m looking at both of the systems u refer to and am kinda leaning towards the lg because I trust them more than Vizio
Hi thanks for the great video how is the Visio compared to the klipsch Dolby setup with the Sony receiver please?
Great question! In a nutshell, since they have to cram so many components into the compact footprint of a soundbar, the quality of those components can only be so high. When a receiver is the one processing the audio signal, it will just handle it better. It has better internal components and can handle the cacophony of loud action scenes more than a soundbar. The Vizio was definitely impressive, with an easy time hooking it all up, but the receiver+speakers setup is still better overall
Waiting for the new video surround sound. That supports erc
Thank you for your review. Very helpful.
You’re welcome!
Awesome review. I'd tone it down on the B reels tho maybe just like 2-3 of those blooper reels
Yeah, just feeling things out as I go. Thanks for watching! 👍
I see where Admiral Hood is coming from BUT I like it. It gives your channel some personality.
I get this too. It downplays the professional part of the video. Unnecessary swearing is also Unnecessary
wish one from this vizio sb46514 F6 Vs the JBL Bar 5.1 - Channel 4K Ultra HD Soundbar with True Wireless Surround, you got a chance to make a duel? grate video keep it up
That would be great! Let’s hope JBL and VIZIO get wind of this channel and start sending me stuff to go head-to-head! Tell all your friends to subscribe! 😄👍
Thank you for this review! Saved me from checking out that LG unit at Costco
I have the LG soundbar sp7r and yes it does lack bass and the sound quality is really bad like i can't seem to make it sound clear and have bass on it when i play some movies which is why in my opinion i think its time to upgrade to something better like the polk s4 can you tell me ur opinion about if i should get the polk s4?
I don’t know about the Polk S4 specifically, but the Polk React soundbar system was pretty decent, as soundbars go. 👍
Hey man, I really enjoyed the review, as I have enjoyed all of your content. I'm just curious, and I'm sure you've answered this many times, how would you compare the Vizio here to the Klipsch cinema 600. I am strongly considering the Vizio as the price is just under 600 but have heard some good things about the Klipsch. Having, or not having atmos, is not a deal breaker for me. I am looking for good clean sound and also good deep bass, but bass that doesn't sound too over powering or muddy. I currently have a LG 2.1 soundbar and am looking for something with a little deeper bass and a center channel for better vocals, as they can get lost with the soundbar that I currently have. Any info or feedback that you could provide would be awesome. Thanks!!!!
Thanks, Aaron! I’m not cool enough to have gotten my hands on a Cinema 600 yet. BUT…I do trust Andrew Robinson on the subject, and he swears by the Cinema 600 for what you get considering its price, even without Atmos. Andrew’s review I linked below. Check it out!
ruclips.net/video/a8nY4CVuJ0M/видео.html
@@ealanosborne Well, if I were running the show at Klipsch, I would send you a soundbar to test. I just checked out Andrew's review and not only did I sub to his channel, but I believe his video swayed me into choosing the Klipsch over the Vizio. Now, it's time to start saving a little cash for the soundbar. Thank you for the prompt reply and I will be looking forward to more awesome content.
Hello again. New to the channel and just found this video. I did buy the Visio 5.1.2 model (which I guess is the model below this one)and have been very happy over all. Other then having some issues getting Dolby Atoms to work on various streaming services that claim to offer it the sound is great. Even non Atmos. The question I have is can you explain the difference in the settings on surround balance and Surround volume. Thank you and keep up the good work the videos are great.
Surround balance means adjusting the audio left to right. Maybe one surround speaker had to be placed a little farther away from you than the other, depending on your setup, so adjusting the balance would help even that out. Surround volume adjusts the overall loudness of the surround speakers. 👍🙌
Trying to decide between the jbl 5.1 and this vizio, what do you recommend? It's going in my big living room (about 150SF) THANKS
It was really unfortunate that I had a lemon when it came to the rear surround speakers squealing quietly on the VIZIO, but was impressed with the system overall. That sub held its own, and I also have a large living room w/ 10’ ceilings. I haven’t heard the JBL in person, and since it’s a soundbar alone, I can only recommend the Vizio since it has surround speakers, which is a nice touch. And the JBL sub looks a tad smaller than the Vizio, so w/ a large living room I don’t think it’ll have enough power. If you can spend a little more, get that Vizio, yo! 😄
@@ealanosborne awesome thanks!
I love my Vizio M512a-H6. It was $350 for black friday and it has some upfiring speakers and they surprisingly sound solid for dolby atmos content. Its adds height to the scenes
Great content Ealan! Tha ks
I recently got the Vizio 36 inch model, the only difference is the sound bar is 36 inches instead of 46, and the subwoofer is a 6 inch, not a 10 inch. The sound bar and rear speakers still have those up firing speakers, and I put my ear to it and heard no static like sound or interference, so maybe yours had interference or faulty rear speakers?
Yeah pretty sure I had a lemon. Too bad…
What are your thoughts on the ONN 5.1.2 Soundbar with Dolby Atmos?
Honestly I have no idea. Haven't yet heard that one. 🤷♂
Had the vizio soundbar with the 5.1.4 surround system and I do like vizio but mine was garbage returned it had nothing but problems
I appreciate you taking the time to make this video, it is informative and helpful with making a decision about the LG sound bar. Based on your review I think I’m going to stay away from that one. And now I’m at the point that I will not pay for any more of these vizio‘s products. I have found just because they’re more expensive their recent products simply do not perform well, and has many issues. Including the $2000 quantum series television. So I will also give a little bit of constructive criticism, while I find your content extremely useful and informative all of the cuts and bloopers is extremely distracting. I do think it’s cute and cool to do it once or twice throughout the video but you did it way too many times, at least for my taste. Please don’t consider the shade or trolling just an honest observation. But like I said thank you for the information.
Thanks Mark. No shade whatsoever. This was my 2nd product review video ever which I posted a year ago. I’ve learned a lot since then. This is my least favorite review for a number of reasons, and I’m the one that made it! 😄 But you can’t get better at something until you put in the work, so I’m happy with how my channel has progressed and evolved since Sept 2020. 🤘😀
Budget ??
What do you think about the Samsung q60r,for us 'poor' folk in small apartments or the klipch cinema 400?
You can’t beat LG OLED. But yes, I think Samsung TVs are a good 2nd place to LG. And Klipsch Cinema 400? Definitely. My in-laws have that, and I’m tellin’ you...that subwoofer is bonkers. It’s the same downward-firing, wireless sub that I got in my Reference Theater Pack, so I know it packs a punch. And you get that bright Klipsch clarity with the soundbar itself. You might honestly get complaints in an apartment with the Cinema 400 subwoofer in action. So that probably means you HAVE to get it, right? 🤣👍
I have the Samsung Q80T and it's great... The 70t and 60t I saw it and have a good 4K and colors too👌
The Samsung is ok, but super light on tech. No Atmos, no DTS-x, no dolby plus. The LG he reviewed here and the 299 vizio 5.1.2 system both have the better tech.
How does the Vizio compares to the Klipsch Reference Theater Pack 5.1? Is the Klipsch a lot better? How big is the gap? (side note: don't care that much about atmos)
As long as you have a receiver to power the Klipsch Theater Pack, I think it’s much better than the VIZIO. Sure, the Theater Pack doesn’t have the height aspect, shooting audio towards the ceiling line the VIZIO does, but it’s a better, wider more discrete soundstage than a soundbar. 👍
Hey you can check onn 5.1 36 “
Why would you compare LG's entry Dolby Atmos 5.1.2 setup to a system that's twice as expensive?...that really doesn't seem fair...you should get a lot more for twice the money, which all you did was confirm. A better comparison would be the LG SN7R vs Vizio's entry level Dolby Atmos 5.1.2 system the Vizio SB36512-F6, now that would be interesting. I have the LG system in my bedroom and I think it performs great, by the way....but I would buy a better system for my living room because it's twice as big. Tip for future videos....try to compare relatively evenly priced products.
Yep! I was mostly curious about how an entry level 5.1.2 Atmos soundbar system COULD compare to a slightly more expensive option. That and I could order both thru Costco, so that made it easy to get my hands on each system. Your tip has been noted! Thanks for watching, Marcel!
@@ealanosborne It's not slightly more expensive, it's twice the price....lol.
Also considering Sam’s Club is selling the cheaper Vizio Atmos soundbar for the exact same price as the Costco LG one right now.
@@MasterPGC The Vizio system that is on sale is not the one he uses in his review. The one on sale is Vizio's entry level Dolby Atmos 5.1.2 (the sb36512-f6) which is what he should have compared the LG SN7R to. In the video he compared it to the Vizio sb46514-f6, which costs $799 (I think I've seen it on sale for $699 before), so it should be significantly better in performance and build quality. Thus this video comparison is useless.
@@marcelcarter846 Oh I know that. I was agreeing with you and saying that the similar models are at both the same price point. He definitely should of compared those two instead of this ridiculous matchup.
Enjoyed the review. Deserved a sub.
Much appreciated!!! I need all the help I can get! 😀👍
@@ealanosborne you definitely deserve more subs, awesome content.
was the the vizio sub better than the Klipsch sub?
Nope. Klipsch’s subs hit hard. 🙌
Hey, I just bought the LG one because it was on a huge sale so i could get it for $300 which seemed to be a good price. It seemed like you really shat on the LG soundbar but is it worth the price I paid for it? I am having difficulty figuring out deciding because you compared it to a system which would be 2.5x the price so obviously the other one is better.
Yeah, for $300 that’s a great deal. It didn’t work in my living room with 10’ ceilings and open concept design. I have no idea what your situation is, but ideally upward firing Atmos speakers are best with 8’ ceilings and having a more isolated living room.
I did a review on the Polk React sound bar system which I think still sounds better, but doesn’t have Atmos capabilities. 🤷♂️ So it just depends on your situation. And ultimately, if it sounds good to you? Awesome! 😀🤘
@@ealanosborne hey thanks for the response. It arrived yesterday and I am very disappointed. Now I can understand why you didn't recommend it. There are a few things you didn't mention which are deal breakers for me which you might want to spend more time covering in other reviews. The problem I had are more on the feature and user experience side. 1 this LG sound system doesn't seem to be compatible with my universal remote,this remote has been compatible with everything else I've ever used that take IR inputs. 2 I've used Vizio sound are before and they have a virtual surround sound setting called surround dual which essentially uses the sound speakers when there is only stereo input. This is very useful to keep the volume a little lower if you have roommates or kids because you can have the rear speakers on and since they are closer to you, you can have the volume lower. The LG speaker has no such input or if there is one it is difficult to find and not in the instructions which is just as bad as not having it. 3 if I use the remote to change the sound effect on the soundbar it just displays "not supported" idk if this is because the input is pcm but with my previous Vizio soundbar I could still change the sound mode. This is very important with this soundbar because by default it seems to have a volume equalizer on so loud scenes become quieter and quiet scenes become louder. This setting is aweful. I watched John wick with it on and gun shots and explosions were quiet and lame but voices in quiet scenes were overly loud. Also if you realize it is on you will start to notice the soundtrack going annoying up and down with the natural increase or decrease of volume. This makes the volume seem erratic and completely takes me out of the movie when someone whispering in one scene is louder than a thumping bass in a club in the next scene. If it is possible to change these things I think I need to use the app which (if you see the 2.5 star rating) doesn't work very well and for most people can't even connect to the speaker.
These are deal breakers for me. I have had for less than 24 hours but I'm am returning as soon as my new soundbar arrives. I decided to pick up VIZIO SB36514-G6 36" 5.1.4 which is more than I wanted to spend originally but seems like a good middle ground to the set up you had featured in the video.
Sorry for the novel lol
I have an idea for a possible budget costco battle. They have the R-41M bookshelf speakers on sale for $90 right now. What if you added those to the $350 sale price Reference Theatre pack and use them for front Left and Right? Then use the smaller Reference speakers for your atmos ceiling speakers. Whether you mount on the ceiling or just point them upward. That might be able to enter for budget atmos. Negative is finding a decent receiver to handle that many channels. Im new to this and still learning whats available. A $700 receiver now puts the modified reference theater set over 1000 and not a fair battle to the Visio. For those smaller speakers can you get away with a receiver half that price?
That’s a great idea!! The Denon s750H you can get for $499 which is a 7.1 Dolby Atmos-ready receiver. So since there are 7 channels to play with, you could make the 5.1.2 system you were referring to. Def prefer speakers that point directly at the listening position, as opposed to firing off the ceiling, so mounting them on the ceiling or in the corner of the ceiling would be ideal. But $350 for 5.1, $500 for receiver, $90 for bookshelf speakers, yeah that’s $1,000+, but would still be a larger sound stage and a discrete Atmos setup. I bet that Denon receiver will go on sale for $400 at some point, so then that could really be worth it!
Haha! Silly me. Of course Costco has the Denon AVR-S750H for $429 compared to Best Buy’s price of $499. I also wonder what Costco’s price would be on SALE? Maybe even down to $329? I’d keep my eye on that too!
@@ealanosborne also with your knowledge maybe there is a non costco receiver that could make the system happen for a budget price. Dig your videos its pretty much like watching a stand up comic teach you things. Got to think you have done a few Jim Gaffigan impressions in your life. Hot Pocket!!
Haha! Since there are SO many product review channels out there, my intention was to create a style unlike all the others, so thanks for the compliments! 😀 And yes, there is the Sony STR-DH790 that is 7.1 and has Dolby Atmos decoding, and it’s only $348, so that could be thrown in the mix too!
I love this channel new sub.
Much appreciated! You rock!
How the heck do i pair the rear speakers on the lg? I have one and cant hear soundq
Make sure the soundbar is OFF. Press PAIRING button on rear wireless speaker receiver until the yellow/green LED blinks rapidly. Turn ON soundbar. That should do it, according to the instructions.
Right on, ive been doing that i started trying to sync it up guess i wasnt waiting long enough before turning on the soundbar. Its good now
I don’t understand how you don’t have more views.
Do u know what size the subwoofer is on the LG? Is it a 6.5 inch sub or 5 inch?
I didn’t include that because I honestly couldn’t find the answer. Since it’s shaped like a tower, and not a cube, I can’t imagine it’s all that big. Maybe 5 inch, max? Not sure...
@@ealanosborne thanks for the fast reply!
@@BigDogg206 hell yeah! Soak it in now, cuz it’ll be a lot harder to reply to comments when I have a MILLION SUBS! 😄💪
@@ealanosborne 😂😂
If the wife perceive a bad sound, is very bad ahaha again nice video dude. Where is the best place to put the Subwoofer? Btw, hoy many jokes did you heard about Norman Osborn and you?😅 ... I decided go for the Klipsch and now I'm waiting for it. Ass soon they arrived, I will writing you 🙌
Haha! Oddly enough, not a lot of jokes regarding Norman Osborn growing up. Go figure! Congrats on ordering the Klipsch! Since low frequency sound waves are more for feeling than directly hearing, you can place the sub anywhere, really, especially since it’s downward firing. Mine is way up high on a shelf because that’s where it was set up to be by the previous owner of my house. And it still works great! It basically shoots the bass down the wall, which then rumbles my floor. So wherever it might be the most convenient, it should still work fine since it’s so powerful!
Haha! The wife bit is spot on. Well done review!
THANK YOU!
RUclips's most one-sided battles!
It's all in the ear of the beholder.
The Vizio is $599 at Costco right now and Best Buy. Would you say that is worth it at this point in time? Anything else within that price range? Trying to find a budget atmos for a small bedroom. Thanks, great review!
For a small bedroom, definitely! That subwoofer performed very well in my living room, so the bass would fill up a bedroom easily. And I’m sure the upward firing surrounds would’ve sounded great if I hadn’t gotten a lemon. $599 is a great price!
@@ealanosborne Thanks for the quick reply! I’ve been watching a lot of your videos lately. Very helpful and entertaining, I enjoy the style.. now I’m just wondering if the samsung hw q850t would be a better purchase than this. Plan to to the $1,500 Klipsch build in our family room soon. We just bought a LG CX for a bedroom and want some good sound to go with it. Thanks again
@@TacticoolNinja Hmmm...yeah the Samsung soundbars as a whole have higher ratings, although I haven’t heard the 850t in person, so I can’t be 100% sure that’s still the case. But your plans for upgrading in your living room AND bedroom sound amazing!
Thanks for watching! I truly appreciate it!
@@ealanosborne Thanks again greatly appreciated! Trying to order something within the next couple of days. Last question would you recommend this Vizio complete system over the Klipsch reference theater pack 5.1 at Costco? Thank you!
@@TacticoolNinja Well, you’ll need a receiver to power the Reference Theater Pack, so that’ll be an additional expense. But I’ll always personally prefer a receiver+speakers over a soundbar. It’s more work to hook it all up with speaker wire, etc, but more reliable and solid in the end. But I understand the ease and popularity of soundbars these days.
Nice video but it would help some of us if you lead with no earc. As soon as I hea4d that, I was done.
If the LG sub had been good, what would the verdict have been then?
Eh, still just decent. 5 or 6 out of 10? The intense compression (and volume reduction) that happened during loud action scenes took the wind out of the sails, instead of making those scenes exciting. The dialog just gets lost, almost non-existent in those scenes as well.
You compare to cheap LG Soundbar with a Is high price Vizio soundbar
Does LG SL7R support 240 V to 110 V Power supply?
Hmmmm...that I’m not sure of. Sorry, mate.
@@ealanosborne If you have the product, all you need to do is just check the Power source spec. Does it say 110 to 240. V?
@@nneptune1970 I don’t. I returned it the following day after I reviewed it since I didn’t like it all that much. Sorry.
Very well done sir. Hilarious too 😂
Thank you very much! 😄🙌
Great Stuff
Why didn’t you compare it to the vizio sb36512-f6. That is an equal price range comparison. Nevertheless I appreciate the review.
I appreciate the kind words. Honestly, at the time, it was all I could easily get my hands on. Being a small channel (even smaller when I first made this video) I don’t get companies sending me “free samples” like the big channels, so I figured I’d give it my best shot with what I had access to. This was my 2nd product review ever, so I learned a lot doing it, and have learned a TON since it’s release. Thanks for watching! 😁🙌
I have the LG and it’s amazing! It works perfectly if you spend the time to set it up and tweak it. Pairs great with LG CX OLED
Well you had to go for lg sn11 or sonos or some other with eARC
Will it turn on when you turn the tv on the sound bar I have don’t
@@christopherhope6434 yes it does for me, read through the manual or quick start to set it up
I have an lg sl4 it's great for the price
My vizio soundbar is 1 step under this vizio in this video
The only thing I can say if if you want true dolby atmos or killer sound system
Just upgrade to a home theater systen
Agreed with the LG for the most part but I thought it wasn't as horrible as you mentioned. I was just expecting better with Meridian. I returned mine after a week. Another factor was the lack of eARC.
Simple comment.....I’m not a fan of Vizio due to their quality issues, but I have that bar and it rocks my apartment.
Why is Vizio 150 watts and LG 400 watts? And is the LG louder for music playing?
Please answer my question
Because you can’t always trust the specs on paper? I almost never pay attention to the total power output number. It’s a marketing ploy to try and wow a customer that might be on the fence.
To my ears, the Vizio was just better. Seems to be the consensus online, too. Music and movies.
What the hell is going on now and days back in the day we only had television speakers especially on crt tv’s 📺
👍👍👍😎super job
I subscribed just because of your comedy, well done
Thanks so much! 😀🙌
So I don’t have anything against your complain or complement about each but the idea of comparing Lexus to a Camry is not only ludicrous but also unnecessary.
You are my favorite
So many effects that distract the viewer/listener from the review
I agree 100%!
Agreed.
Seems unfair to compare considering the price difference
I can see you love vizio
Haha! I actually don’t own anything VIZIO. This was strictly for the comparison. I actually DO love my LG OLED TV, so I was disappointed with their budget Atmos soundbar. The VIZIO is just better in this instance. 😄👍
So in other words, you didn't like the LG at all and don't recommend it?
Yeah, pretty much. I LOVE my LG OLED TV, so I am an LG fan, for sure. But you get what you pay for, and their cheaper soundbars just have really cheap components internally, and it shows.
@@ealanosborne I also just recently bought the LG oled tv... so what soundbar would you recommend in that price range?
@@Avocado818 If you’re able to buy now, Klipsch has a great sale on the Cinema 600 3.1 soundbar. Normally $500, but on sale for $300. Sure, you don’t get full surround with rear satellite speakers, but the soundbar itself sounds crisp, and that wireless subwoofer is powerful!
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1566872-REG/klipsch_1068777_cinema_600_sound_bar.html?ap=y&smp=y
It’s hard to take anyone seriously when they mount their tv that high up on the wall.
350 to 750 is almost double the price....
Dude you stop me from buying this lg soundbar
Look into the Klipsch Cinema series of soundbars. 👍
In today’s video, we compare apples to oranges. 🤷🏻♂️
I got the $200 Vizio 5.1 H6
Better sound than that LG💯
You can’t even compare these two they don’t have anything in common and one is $800 and the other is $400 they aren’t even on the same level
Bogus comparison. I would hope the system that has 2x the Atmos speakers and cost twice as much sounds better. Vizio makes an Atmos system that also sells for 300 and has the same specs as the LG... That would be the true test. Why not compare them both to the Samsung Q950? It's only $1800
One of the major fails of the vizio (all of them) is having to connect the rear speakers to the sub. This is awful. It makes placing the surrounds where they should go nearly impossible, and the sub must be in direct line of sight with the bar to function. Total fail IMO.
Great explanations but those stupid commentary... not necessarily, However it is unique.
Vizio quality is poor, bought 3 different items from them and all of them performed sub par and eventually stopped working /broke in a matter of just 1-3 years(absolute crap). Never again
So much wasted time with random bloopers. Its a good review but the random pauses were too distracting. The sound mechanics lessons were great though.
I’m not a fan of this review either, and I made it, haha! It’s been a year almost to the day since I posted it. I’ve learned a lot since then. 😄🤘
why did you compare a $200 system to a $1000 system? its like comparing a honda to a mercedes benz...duh no wonder the LG feels cheap.
What terrible comparison video, mismatching price ranges. When you compared the budget LG rear speakers to your Klipsch speakers I immediately knew you have no clue what you're doing, you would've been better showing websites and specs of comparable soundbars.
TBH, what he is saying is true, I have an expert friend at this geek shit (LOL) and what he told me is, if you are trying to attain all these extra channels with a soundbar or even a less expensive receiver, its not really going to work well, and yy would be better off just sticking with a 5.1 system. In other words, if you are going to expand the speakers, you have to expand the power base because each speaker has to be powered separately. Its a core on. In other words, if you truly want great Atmos and you can't quite afford it, just buy one or two pieces at a time or stick with the simple 5.1. Is good enough for small rooms. If you have a large Theatre type room, then by all means go big, but you can't make a purse out of a sow's ear.
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I just got this from *C-NET*
You don't really need Dolby Atmos 'height' speakers
Most receivers in the $500 price range include support for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X, but the effects they have on your home theater movie watching can be subtle, or in most movies: nonexistent. In other words, don't worry about missing out on these new formats if you don't install an extra height speaker or two. Mounting the rear surround speakers high on the wall will get you halfway there in terms of quality, immersive sound.
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Hearing that, I changed my mind about my Living room (already have a theatre room) and just got the Klipsch 5.1 speaker package, added a 12-inch sub, and used my old receiver, why was still very good. Saved a bundle, and it really rocks.
This dude sucks he was against the leg product from the get so he’s not a good judge on the product
This review is totally useless as Vizio SB36512-F6 is discontinued model.
He didn't use that Vizio model in the video, but you can buy it at BB or Sam's Club right now on sale. He used the Vizio SB46514-F6, that's what makes the review useless...the systems are at two very different price points.
Jesus f christ, I could barely make it through this vid with all the effects and blooper cuts, the info was good but not worth sitting through that
Vizio is garbage cost to speak and wolfer keeps going in and out
You say you're an audio nut but your audio sounds distant and "roomy", like it was recorded in a giant concrete room. Also your editing is a bit tedious.
Trying to find the correlation between his audio quality and the content of his video.......
@@BillykOTW he's reviewing a soundbar & says he's an "audio nut"