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She actually works better now, when comboed with armor and misery. Before she was just put 2 zeroes on the enemy side. Now she puts -8. She does her job better but isn't as plug and play in decks that don't support her. She still clogs well at low risk, and even if it gets blown up it block cards the turn after placed,,
Do you think you could run this list with Kraven if you don't have Scream? I can sub Jeff for Kate as i don't have her but lacking Scream in this list makes me wonder. It would be either him or Kingpin, no?
Nerf? It was a buff, she gained a -1 on her clog. Shes also feals really nice to use with Titania, if timed correctly. Combining her with misery and armor is fun. 😊👍
Too much effort to get her to be good. Feels like you have to build your deck around her now. I do like how she fits in the Scream deck, tho. But, deck space is tight and id rather do just about anything else than try to get this card to pay off.
Thanks for this video. Of course Armor (not Red Guardian) is the obvious partner for White Widow now, not to mention it helps counter Destroy, but it was your positive attitude about the change that gave me heart to re-master a new Clog deck. Clog is a super important check on all those greedy decks that just sandbag - do nothing until the end and then drop all their bombs. Think Hela, Sera/Onslaught, Sera/Surfer, Mr. Negative... I mean the list is endless and irritating and BAD for the game. Clog keeps the meta-balance healthy and forces people to also play decks that are interactive (and far more fun) if they want to fight back.
If hela was nerfed to oblivion I wouldn’t mind. I remember when the gimmick with hela was that it was a gamble deck but it’s so consistent now it’s not fun to play against. But maybe I don’t actually disagree with you, If they made her more gamba and more powerful again that’d probably be more fun honestly. Having to have players play luke cage to nerf her power output and floor seems silly. Proposed Change: revert hela to her original state but give her a start of the game ability that makes all discards random.
@@MaxTax_ Keep crying. Rng is essential for a game too. And she gained some consistency with Hell cow but that's been reduced after the change. Last week a Negative deck did better than Hela. She didn't even make it to the top 10. The Nerf's doing its job.
@@MaxTax_ Also, your suggestion seems cool actually. But I think that would be a bit hard to pull off. Here's what I suggest, revert Hela to the original state but only allow her to resummon 2-3 of the discards. This would make players have to be much more precise and careful when they discard their hand. A bad hand would hamper them a lot. And this way Hela will only have an output of 30-40 power across 1-2 locations(not consistently, this would be the maximum output, the best case scenario), which is the same as many other decks( Shenaut High Evo, for instance). But it would be less consistent because unlike those other decks you can't control what goes down and where it goes down. This would be a decent change. But even then you'll see the snowflakes crying despite her output being severely reduced, that's what's happening right now. Some people just love to complain.
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Video me lied :(. I'm unfortunately not live right now, but will be back on Monday! Would still love for you to join me over there. Especially for Scorn testing on Tuesday! Twitch.tv/tlsgsnap
See ya on Monday!
Any suggestions for Hawkeye replacement??? Thanks!!
I feel like this deck list should definitely run Red Guardian to keep the kiss alive and a -6 if they don't rush to get rid of her!
I put red guardian in and took aero out, feel aero wasn't doing enough
I don't have cannonball so I'll try him out, good idea!
@@lburwell99 If you don’t have cannonball then don’t play clog
@@paulakroy2635 Whoa captain Mr. Marvel I know everything about it... loser
@@paulakroy2635 have some ingenuity, you don't need to play the same deck as the one on the internet lmao
14:54 i was screaming for that entire turn for pym arrow mid and cannonball left lol
Amazing deck !!
That misery jubilee blink fiesta sold me on getting her from the cache lmao
15:37 Isn't cannonball left better ?
Possibly but ramp/Wiccan decks typically have alioth so I was a bit worried they'd have an alioth to protect left
@@TLSGMarvelSnap got it! thanks!
Keep up the amazing videos!!!
At the 15 minute game why not cannonball the Emporer hulking and then play pym arrow mid instead of the 25 percent danger room
I was worried about alioth. Ramp or Wiccan decks typically run them so I went for the 2 75% chances instead
I have the unfortunate fate of being in a league with you this season lmao
People were dooming on WW because they somehow forgot that she wasn't just a good 2-drop. She was maybe the best 2-drop.
Now... she's a good 2-drop.
She actually works better now, when comboed with armor and misery. Before she was just put 2 zeroes on the enemy side. Now she puts -8. She does her job better but isn't as plug and play in decks that don't support her. She still clogs well at low risk, and even if it gets blown up it block cards the turn after placed,,
As long as white widow is a 2 drop that adds something with lower power to the enemy side of board she will be considered good.
Do you think you could run this list with Kraven if you don't have Scream? I can sub Jeff for Kate as i don't have her but lacking Scream in this list makes me wonder. It would be either him or Kingpin, no?
No scream = very weak deck scream is the card that made this deck good
Any sub for cannonball??! Maybe magneto?
I got war machine and went from ranked 78-100 in less than 4 hours 😭
What was your deck? I have Warmachine and no luck.
How can it be ?!! What a genius champion ! Why are you not better known ?!
This seems to be a few too many 50/50s in the end game to be consistent right?
Simply guess correctly, I don't know what the problem is
And now I feel bad I skipped Scream :D
Should be good with Jean grey and nebula
that Hazard guy just pulled one of the worst plays I've ever seen
Neat deck, nice to see WW still is usable after her nerf but it def hurt her a lot
They nerfed her as a clog tool, they buffed her as a endgame power tool
You're my boy TLSG!
Nerf? It was a buff, she gained a -1 on her clog. Shes also feals really nice to use with Titania, if timed correctly. Combining her with misery and armor is fun. 😊👍
Too much effort to get her to be good. Feels like you have to build your deck around her now. I do like how she fits in the Scream deck, tho. But, deck space is tight and id rather do just about anything else than try to get this card to pay off.
Thanks for this video. Of course Armor (not Red Guardian) is the obvious partner for White Widow now, not to mention it helps counter Destroy, but it was your positive attitude about the change that gave me heart to re-master a new Clog deck. Clog is a super important check on all those greedy decks that just sandbag - do nothing until the end and then drop all their bombs. Think Hela, Sera/Onslaught, Sera/Surfer, Mr. Negative... I mean the list is endless and irritating and BAD for the game. Clog keeps the meta-balance healthy and forces people to also play decks that are interactive (and far more fun) if they want to fight back.
Yapping
I don't have scream and hawkey. Equivalents ?
Play a different deck, scream is basically the archetype
Kingpin kinda does what screams does but not as well. In this deck however I think he’s a very good sub for her. Hawkeye I’m not too sure
@7evenotb871 That's a good call, just doesn't deliver as much as scream, her negative opponent power and positive player power is too vital
@@MrDnbForLife the effects can't be replaced but you can try juggernaut and kingpin. it will be a worse deck tho
@@MrDnbForLife very true. But in the case he doesn’t have access to such a great card. I had to spend 3 keys for her though :(
Cannonball sub?
Play another deck, because it is one of the win condition cards of clog decks.
What do you mean wasn't enough? Nerfing something is fine. But nerfing something to oblivion is bad for a game.
If hela was nerfed to oblivion I wouldn’t mind. I remember when the gimmick with hela was that it was a gamble deck but it’s so consistent now it’s not fun to play against.
But maybe I don’t actually disagree with you, If they made her more gamba and more powerful again that’d probably be more fun honestly. Having to have players play luke cage to nerf her power output and floor seems silly.
Proposed Change: revert hela to her original state but give her a start of the game ability that makes all discards random.
@@MaxTax_ Keep crying. Rng is essential for a game too. And she gained some consistency with Hell cow but that's been reduced after the change. Last week a Negative deck did better than Hela. She didn't even make it to the top 10. The Nerf's doing its job.
@@MaxTax_ Also, your suggestion seems cool actually. But I think that would be a bit hard to pull off. Here's what I suggest, revert Hela to the original state but only allow her to resummon 2-3 of the discards. This would make players have to be much more precise and careful when they discard their hand. A bad hand would hamper them a lot. And this way Hela will only have an output of 30-40 power across 1-2 locations(not consistently, this would be the maximum output, the best case scenario), which is the same as many other decks( Shenaut High Evo, for instance). But it would be less consistent because unlike those other decks you can't control what goes down and where it goes down. This would be a decent change. But even then you'll see the snowflakes crying despite her output being severely reduced, that's what's happening right now. Some people just love to complain.
Stop sharing clog decks bro😢
I've never seen a single clip of this guy with clean hair, which always reminds me to clean mine
Kate sub?
"Scarlett Witch 🧹🪄 lane 😆. I was looking so hard