I will say as someone with ADHD and having dealt with the stimulant shortages because of the popularity spike of Adderall, I want to make sure that we don't lose the plot. While this behavior from celebrities is irresponsible, the blame ultimately lays at the feet of the companies that make these drugs and our healthcare system. These drugs are not naturally scarce, they are scarce because one company with a state guaranteed monopoly produces the quantity that maximizes profit instead of the quantity we actually need.
I'm usually the first one in line to shit on a pharma company, but every company in manufacturing sets production levels based on demand projections. In most cases, the pricing of pharmaceuticals is based on R&D costs, not straight supply and demand. In this particular instance, how could they possibly have foreseen that their diabetes drug was going to become hugely popular among celebrities and the elites for weight loss purposes?
@@supernova622 You do know that, even knowing that they had shortages & where they had put more of their production into wegovy (same exact medication as ozempic, owned by same company) they advertised during the Super Bowl? NovoNordisk absolutely is behind the scarcity issues. This has been discussed openly and widely. Patients are demonized regarding the scarcity instead of the company who is actually responsible for it.
Do you pay their scientists to research this drug? How many billions they lose trying to research this and thousand other drugs that may or may not work out? Their product their choice, their money their choice.
@soorian I went off Vyvance because I was getting asked for my meds. Tip to those new to ADHD- don’t tell anyone you’re on meds! And I have lupus and getting my Plaquenil during the pandemic was crazy- it was suddenly treated like a narcotic! smh.
“A culture fixated on female thinness is not an obsession about female beauty, but an obsession about female obedience. Dieting is the most potent political sedative in women’s history; a quietly mad population is a tractable one.” -Naomi Wolf- The Beauty Myth
It’s also about fetishizing youth and eternal life. To be thin is symbolically to be young, underdeveloped, controllable, weak, impressionable, incompetent, dependent, and ignorant. The obsession with women’s thinness is part of how men get away with “not knowing she was a minor” or referring to a child as a woman. It allows for confusion between the image of the child with the image of the adult. It is also immensely racist and eugenicist.
Hmmm, maybe instead of medicine and drugs to get skinny just resurrect artist Peter Paul Rubens so he can bring back Rubenesque women as a beauty standard🤔😏🙂jk but ‘Pete’ the old artist would probably think Kate Moss needs to eat more👍🤔😳🙄😊
As someone who previously worked in healthcare and often had to help patients jump through hoops to get their expensive Ozempic for more affordable prices (applying for patient assistance programs etc.) I was appalled to learn about non diabetics taking Ozempic for weightloss and the shortages that have ensued. Encapsulates a lot of what is wrong with our American society today.
@Beastbombshell 1) diabetes, more often than not, is not controllable by diet alone 2) one of semaglutide’s effects is dietary changes, as it slows down digestion and changes the body’s response to carbs, so it makes dietary changes - which are not just a matter of “willpower” - a lot more attainable and comfortable. Semaglutide is a complete game-changer for a lot of people with diabetes. It’s not a bad drug.
Whether Ozempic is a good drug or a bad drug, access to medical needs that may include medications for health conditions, should be a right, not a privilege. If someone with diabetes needs this medication to live their best life with their condition, it should be affordable and available for them. People taking drugs like this for vanity reasons, thus decreasing the availability for those who actually need it, is problematic.
If you truly worked in healthcare, you would understand the ramifications of long term obesity on not only the patient but on our society as well. These glp1 and glp2 medications are NOT first line medications for type 1 diabetics. Also, do you also realize that the majority of people who are taking these medications for weight loss are pre diabetic. Stop shaming people for trying to get healthier.
@@roxyred0145 OP didn't say anything about the meds being first line for type 1 diabetics, though??? Also, "losing weight" does not always equal "getting healthier." Frankly, at this juncture in my life, I'm not convinced weight loss in and off itself is an especially useful health goal, unless you are literally so obese that you have difficulty moving around. We also don't know what the long-term ramifications of this type of weight loss are. Does the weight stay gone if you discontinue the drug? Or does it come back with a vengeance, as it does after crash dieting? Are there health risks we don't yet know about that might be worth risking for the sake of controlling a disease but not for the sake of weight loss alone? We don't know. I have a feeling there is another shoe yet to drop with this off-label use. Time will tell.
I remember in the '90s when my mom took medication that literally gave her heart palpitations and made her manic and angry all the time to be thin. I am not willing to hurt myself to fit society's idea of what my body should look like.
My body is hurting through obesity and insulin resistant PCOS. This manages my insulin resistance and works for me where nothing else has - do I not deserve health and happiness?
The same way the beauty standard is set by the ruling class. It was fashionable to be pale for ages, as it meant you didn't have to work outside. Until Coco Chanel (Look into her history if you want a story) came back from her vacation tanned. Then tan skin became the symbol of the leisure class.
I studied endocrinology during my PhD, and BRUH the body is so smart and adaptable. There are many methods in it to maintain homeostatic balance, and when there is an influx of a hormone concentration much higher than usual, the body decrease the availability of receptors. So I can only imagine the effects this drug is going to have over the long term. There could very well be epigenetic changes to the production of the original hormone and the binding receptors necessary... I'm very intrigued to see what the long-term studies reveal to those that aren't already fighting hormone and receptor imbalances like diabetes.
lol I know right?!?! honestly, this drug, and hormone drugs in general are always such interesting areas of research! I am interested to see what the effects on mental health are going to be since some studies are suggesting that GLP plays a role in neurodegeneration and mood regulation.
@@Delightfullydee7 right now the data suggests that this drug provides heart and kidney protection to people with diabetes. True long-term population data is not yet available since this is a newer drug. People with diabetes already have a hormonal/metabolic imbalance (diabetes) so this drug acts as a correction, while people taking it for vanity weight loss do not have the imbalance and are inducing an imbalance instead when they take this drug. This is a vastly different population from the study population so data on this is even more scarce and it is hard to apply the study data to these people.
@@Delightfullydee7 I honestly don't know if it would, but as someone taking it for medical reasons, then long terms effect are less of a concern compared to short term survival or treatment. As compared to those living without diabetes already and just taking additional hormones to lose an extra 20 lbs or however much.
Thank you for this! I think another massive misconception or harmful conflation in our society is the notion that diabetes or "obesity" are a failure of the individual's will power. Your comment grounds the disease in a physiological concept related to hormones and receptors. Thank you!!
my dad (58) just got prescribed ozempic for his diabetes and the pharmacist legit told him to be careful going to his car so he doesn't get mugged. never got this warning with his pain pills after his back surgery. but something like this seems really ridiculous. it has been making him less hungry and he only eats about half a burger and some fries (for example) instead of clearing the plate for a meal but i make him feel better by finishing his fries for him lolz
@@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL You have NO concept of what people go through to get this stuff and it shows. Please check your uninformed perspective and do some research.
Pharmacist here. We are all so sick of Ozempic, Trulicity, Mounjaro, Wegovy, etc. The backorders have been horrible and a real pain in the butt for our diabetic patients.
My PCP has tried to prescribe me ozempic 4x now. I almost died of pancreatitis in 2015, and that is one of the only things on my medical record. I am not diabetic, and while I do have some slight insulin resistance from PCOS, it is easily managed by metformin which has way fewer side effects… My mom (who literally survived ovarian cancer two years ago) was also pressured to take it for solely weight loss purposes. The lack of concern for patient well-being that drs pushing ozempic are demonstrating strikes me as so callous and awful.
But could it be (speculating here), that your BMI index in an unhealthy range (above 24) and the doctor thinks that without weight loss you can acquire type 2 diabetes? That seems like one of the legit reasons to prescribe the drug...
@@Valerie-s6n it is not that. My blood sugar has been in a consistent stable range for the past 15+ years that I've been doing bloodwork every 3-6 months for my medication. I have PCOS, which does make it difficult to lose weight, and I do take steps to control my insulin resistance/diet, but that isn't your business. The fundamental point is that there is *no* reason to prescribe someone whose blood sugar is in normal ranges a drug that may give them a condition that almost killed them years before, especially when less severe options exist. Additionally, as a scholar who works on these things, long-term weight loss is unsustainable, and weight is largely genetic (no study has shown success for any diet past 5 years, and that's not for lack of trying to prove it by the diet inducstry). Dieting and extreme measures can increase insulin resistance over time. The BMI was developed by an astronomer in Europe as a *population-wide* measure of *white men.* The entire history of diet culture is steeped in eugenics, to the point where the science is dubious at best. It's also difficult to disentangle the side effects of being overweight from the effects of doctors ignoring legitimate health concerns that fat people have, leading them to not receive treatment and be told to take ozempic instead. Happy to send you the readings my undergraduates do on this subject.
@Beastbombshell because it's hard? You need to be really sure to do it. All the additional knowledge you need to get, regular cooking, calories counting etc. Sayin "no" at the parties to unhealthy options.
I would like to say these types of meditations could be a huge benefit for those with PCOS especially if they want to have a baby. PCOS precursor to diabetes and if not managed can lead to other complications such as heart disease. These medications should only be for those would benefit from them, health wise. Also, some cannot tolerate metformin to manage their insulin resistance. If these medications can do that plus help a person suffering from diabetes lose weight I’m all for it. But just like Michael Jackson, people with money/fame will eventually find that 1 physician or pharmacist that won’t say NO.
I know many of the comments will be about the primary topic, but the ad before is what raised my eyebrows. I get that TFD needs to pay bills, but to offer a regular retail ad dressed up with words like "investment" and "value" seems counter to your standard messaging. I understand that we are all at different levels of financial security, but there are better, more univeraally helpful products to push than more clothes. And can we talk about the disconnect of a chic clothing ad that runs before a discussion of the classism of weight. Almost too many juxtapositions to take this vid seriously.
As far as I have heard from RUclips content creators, they have no control over which ads play during their videos, only where the ad breaks will be. I get your concern; hopefully the advertisers are throwing their money away on the wrong audience while helping support a channel we love.
You did a fantastic job discussing this topic...there are just so many things wrong with the whole issue. It's just so insane to try and fathom we have actually come to this!
The issue isn’t obese or overweight people using this for weight loss and diabetes prevention . The issue is people who are already at healthy weight using this to get model skinny . Or those using wegovy without changing their eating patterns or increasing their activity. Bc I’m betting a lot of diabetics or patients with heart problems would have used this before they became diabetics and or had heart failure to prevent it from happening if they had the chance.
I'm obese with insulin resistant PCOS. I've been trying to lose weight my entire life, and this is the most exciting and effective thing I've tried. The world hates me when I'm fat; it also hates me when I find a way to improve my health and happiness. We can't win!
Love your videos as a cusp mellennial, I always find your videos so informative without being preachy! Thats a hard route to ride in this space. So thanks for your content xx.
I live in the UK and one of my closest friend's has been using Ozempic to manage her diabetes for around 2 years. Recently she has not been able to get her prescription filled. The West's obsession with skinny - and body shape 'trends' - has real life, worldwide repercussions. It's beyond gross to me.
I went to my primary care doctor and told him I'd been trying to lose weight but having trouble, hoping for some advice on diet and exercise. He immediately asked me if I wanted Ozempic or Mounjaro. If I hadn't heard of them and known they were for diabetics, he may not have even told me and I may be taking them right now, thinking they were the best option for me because my doctor told me to take it.
Congrats Chelsea. My mom take semaglutide for her diabetes and stage II obesity and it is sad to know that sometimes meds are not available because of the internet buzz and illegal side uses of the medication. Great job, keep going! Greetings from Bogotá, Colombia.
Wegovy is not for diabetes. It is for obesity. You must have a higher than a certain BMI and/or certain weight-related illness. And even with the drug, you have to exercise and eat well. It is not a miracle drug, except for those with chronic obesity who have tried everything else and are facing serious health issues with out an intervention. More research and less judgment would be useful. Most people who use these drugs are not Kardishians and I think making blanket and somewhat uninformed statements about the pros and cons of the drugs might shame or scare people who might really need the drugs from considering them as an option. Just a thought.
I've had similar struggle few years ago to an access to diabetic medication in my country. I have insulinoresistance and back then I was using popular medicine for diabetis and insulinoresistance. Back then mafia was smuggling a lot of medicine to the west and I was not able to get medication. I was driving 30-40 km to get the last package of medicine in drug store (it was the closest distance where I could find it). Thankfuly this is over now and I also off this type of medicine, but I can't imagine going through the same thing again. I feel sorry for everyone who ends up in the situation where can't get their drugs
When was thinnes out? These drugs are helping people lose the weight fast but the obsession with being thin has never gone away. Some people have just help add additional features to the thin af frame but being thin and the perception of being thin equals being healthy or more attractive is like death, is guaranteed to be here until the end of time.
I think it depends. "Thin" as in healthy weight or "thin" as in underweight? I see a lot of people, particularly in the radical fat acceptance crowd basically saying anyone who isn't morbidly obese is "thin". Whereas most people know the term to mean gaunt, malnourished, underweight, et cetera. A healthy weight has never gone out of style. While peak beauty standards have changed throughout the years, healthy weights have always been attractive. Though if we are indeed talking about the thin that means underweight, that has only been fashionable in the 1990s to early 2000s.
@@taylorhillard4868 when Renee Zellwieger went up to *gasp* 130lbs and a size 8, she was criticized for being "sooooo fat" even though that's a healthy, average weight for a woman her height. In fashion and acting, anything over a size 6 is considered "plus" even though thats much smaller than average and would technically be underweight for a lot of women. Thin has always been in. Not average. Not medium. Thin, as in a size 4.
@@jacquelinealbin7712 yeah but I'm not talking about trashy magazines and tabloids, I mean actual standards of attraction and what most people find beautiful.
It’s a social construct, not a natural phenomenon. You just need to look across cultures and across time periods to know as much. Hence: it can change, as social values evolve.
This reminds me of the significant price increase for those of us taking hydroxychloroqine when donald announced, based on no good evidence, that it would probably cure covid. And three years later, the price has not come down even though at this point everyone seems to agree that it does not cure or prevent covid. In fact, my refill just last week was up $43.
I appreciate the discussion around class, thinness and this current diet fad. I would, however, caution against conflating weight with health. Also, there are not only no long term studies for how Ozempic will affect thin people, but the same is true for fat people as well. I recommend Aubrey Gordon's book, You Just Need to Lose Weight or the podcast Maintenance Phase to begin to better understand the depth of anti-fat bias in ourselves and society as a whole.
Lifelong fat chick here. Used to be thinner, but then gained 100lbs from psych meds, then over a few years managed to lose half of that and have been at a stable weight for 2 years. I strongly considered Ozempic/other GLP1s. But my health is good, and at this point in my life would not further improve by losing weight (though admittedly, I should work out more for better muscle endurance). And knowing that as soon as I stop taking it, I would gain the weight back, and probably also have my finally-healthy relationship with food be ruined for years. Some people do need it for weight-related health issues, like high blood pressure or prediabetes/PCOS, but luckily I'm not one of them at this point in my life. Not to mention my dose possibly being taken from somebody who needs it for health reasons, and the side effects that seem pretty unpleasant... And if you take it for life to avoid regain, you deal with those side effects also for life. I don't blame actual, everyday fat people (or even fat celebrities) for taking it just for weight loss though- I have been judged and mistreated for my weight my whole life, and being able to just opt out of that with a weekly shot is tempting... Like I said, I looked into it for myself. But thin celebrities taking it, like Kim K? Thats not just ridiculous, but dangerous for everyone involved.
@@KittySnicker the bulk of my initial weight loss was from bariatric surgery, but maintaining the loss was due to learning that I need to listen to my body's signals, especially to not keep eating when I'm full/not just eat out of boredom (even now, I feel physically ill if I eat past my limits). Though I think the surgery just, essentially, created a new set point for my body as a metabolic baseline after the first year or two. It's been about 5 years since surgery, and 2-3 years of this new baseline. I'm pretty sure that the sleeve modification has since stretched out in these 5 years- I can have a pretty normal size meal, compared to my frends and partner. But if I go beyond that instead of packing leftovers, I feel it. Versus Ozempic, where your metabolic set point doesn't seem to change, and your body fights you to go back to your previous baseline as soon as you stop taking it, based on a lot of studies I've read. I am planning on doing a standard "more lean protein, less processed carbs" type of thing to lose a bit of this weight that's stuck around... I probably won't lose as much this way as I would if I took Ozempic. But at least I realize that if I stop a moderate diet, my metabolism and hunger signals won't be totally skewed, and it's easier to watch out for regain and do something about it, without having to fight intense feelings of hunger while trying to avoid regain, which seems to be what happens when you stop Ozempic.
As a health educator who is short and plus sized, being skinny doesn't automatically mean someone is "more fit" or "healthier." Being plus sized doesn't automatically make me sickly. I hike or walk almost every day. Fitness and health are relative to someone's Social Determinants of Health like race, gender, employment status, family support, housing, etc. There's serious concern about longterm side effects of taking medications that aren't necessary to maintain your health. Some side effects may not show up for years. I think the FDA should restrict these drugs solely for people who need them to maintain their health and wellness. Thank you for sharing this thoughtful commentary.
I am just eating healthier, not eating processed foods and exercising more. My brother told me about this drug but my insurance will not cover it unless I get my doctor to prescribe it for me. At first I was interested in it because I wanted to lose the weight fast but today I just found out all the health risk it has. I rather just cut my carbs, not eat processed foods and exercise to lose weight. Even though it will probably take a year or even two years to lose all the weight. I also found out that once you stop the drug you end up putting a lot of the weight back anyway.
I think this conversation leaves out the vast majority of people and does a disservice to obese/overweight patients across the country. Users of ozempic are not just a dichotomy of diabetic patients who will die without ozempic on one end and rich/famous thin people on the other side. This video, like most takes ive heard on ozempic feel kind of misinformed to me because the vast majority of people on the drug dont fall into either category. The non wealthy person with controlled diabetes but also obesity who want to lose weight- not included in this conversation. The non celebrity obese woman with PCOS who wants to lose weight- not included in this conversation. I am so tired of these moralistic takes that demonize the obvious enemy (those trying to get as you say “bella hadid level thin”) but that hatred carries over to obese patients who are not diabetic.
I feel like people who rile against wegovy never got a medical exam to get it prescribed. They fail to realize they aren't doctors and therefore have no idea what someone's medical history is. I wish they would do more research before demonizing a drug that can actually make people healthier and prevent diabetes in the first place
The New York Times did a story on how there’s been a massive shift in how the medical world think about childhood obesity and by proxy adult obesity because of recent studies showing it is potentially at the level of a medical disease requiring more rigorous treatment outside of just diet and exercise. So I hear you.
I agree so much with this comment, which is why this whole video felt off to me. Some good points were made, but I think the media conversation on this topic has become a moral panic and involves a lot of unconscious bias around shaming people for “cheating” by losing weight “the wrong way.” If someone wants to take this drug, it’s between them and their doctor. I don’t like the idea of means testing drugs based on who “really” needs it vs who’s going off label. Chelsea has advocated using Botox for TMJ, and that’s off label! And more power to her. Let’s interrogate the cultural desire to be thin at all costs, yes, but don’t demonize the drug.
I did a medical research study for semaglutide. The requirement was to be overweight. I was unfortunately was in the placebo group. I realized that pretty quickly and stopped injecting myself with w.e compound they had. My counterparts were in awe at the weight they lost. It does work. It’s weird seeing things actually come to market when your apart of the testing.
“Eliminating feelings of shame, anxiety, and guilt…” okay but maybe we could root out fat-shaming and create enough space in our society for real conversations about health and wellness and eliminate those feelings without abusing drugs? Just a thought.
What if we just make positive lifestyle changes to get to a healthy weight? It’s not about thinness. It’s about not putting excess pressure on your joints and not getting heart disease and a score of other health issues.
Very interesting video! Not sure if you were talking so fast because it was a rant or that’s just how u speak sometimes. Also I will say nuuly is close to $80 a month (last I checked a while back) despite the fact that you’re getting 6 items a month.. I think that $80 should definitely be disclosed as part of your “clothing budget”.
*shakes fist in health insurance* thanks to people abusing Ozempic, prediabetic and diabetic patients are struggling to get it and jumping through INSANE hoops to get it authorized because of these jerks. It makes me so angry because I get people breaking down or yelling at me on the phone because they need it and can't have it. 😠 Wegovy: harder to get Mounjaro: forget it you can't get a prior auth for that
As the wife of a type 1 diabetic, with a type 2 diabetic father, this truly upsets me. My father can hardly get his medications because of shortages. If he didn't work for the state as a caregiver, he'd not be able to get it at all. And I can't image if insulin was in a shortage, because that would be a death certificate to my type 1 husband. This really makes me want to scream eat the rich.
I am one of those unlucky diabetic patients who have been negatively impacted by this. I take the medication Trulicity which is an injectable in the same class as Ozempic, and the amount of times I have not been able to fulfill my medication is not only frustrating but also a real detriment to my health. Delays are taking weeks to months for a medication I am prescribed to take once a week. Through lots of hard work, I got my A1C down from 14 to 6.8, but the effects of now not being able to consistently get my medication it's gone back up to 8.6! It really is unethical to take medication many need to live for vanity purposes.
my partner lives in the netherlands, and their doctor pressured them to take ozempic for weightloss since their doctor wasn't happy about their weight plateauing. they would be having really bad side effects that stopped them from going to work and ultimately caused them to lose their job (being unable to leave the house for fear of loss of control of your bowels with no warning signs) but their doctor kept telling them they should stick with it over and over. i was outraged and had to help them stand up to this doctor who was basically trying to justify sacrificing my partner's short term health and happiness for some societal idea of what health looks like. The complicated worries about their stomach and feeling less hungry in general added disordered feelings and behaviors toward food, and it just seemed very very irresponsible for this doctor to keep going knowing this was happening, since my partner explained it. Of course, the fact that the drug is being used this way when there's already a shortage of it for diabetics is just supremely unethical. I don't know exactly how they were able to afford to offer it to my partner, or how it was being comped but it wasn't costing my partner a huge sum of money and it was being presented as an "opportunity" due to how expensive it usually is.
I was prescribed this for Type II Diabetes and I'm really struggling to get this medication on time because it's always on hold at my pharmacy due to lack of supply. Learning about the reason why is just so gross.
In January the Australian govt changed the standard price of prescriptions from around $43 to $30. NovoNordisk have completely discontinued the type of insulin I was on (type 1 diabetic here) because they said they couldn’t afford to at the lower price. They’re absolutely just focused on profit
part of why ozempic causes such extreme weight loss is because it has the side effect of inducing gastroparesis (delayed gastric emptying). that is what causes the decreased appetite, early satiety, and in some cases nausea and vomiting. the food is basically just sitting in your stomach for too long instead of moving through the digestive system at a normal rate like it's supposed to due to this delay in gastric emptying. this causes you to feel full longer, sure, but it's not healthy or good for the human body, even temporarily like the gastroparesis that is induced by ozempic. it is a NEGATIVE AND UNHEALTHY side effect of the medication, AS IS ANY WEIGHT LOSS THAT HAPPENS AS A RESULT. as someone who HAS gastroparesis, (which is considered a rare and incurable chronic motility disorder, or a paralysis or partial paralysis of the stomach), i cannot fathom why people without diabetes would willingly take a medication with such horrific side effects just to shrink their bodies. i developed gastroparesis for multiple reasons, a big one being my decade long battle with anorexia. starving myself is the single biggest regret of my life because of how it permanently damaged and paralyzed my stomach. (TW: medical symptom descriptions) i get terrible vitamin and mineral deficiencies now (a very common effect of delayed gastric emptying) because my stomach cannot process nutrients normally. taking supplements doesn't do anything either, because my stomach is too weak to break them down. i became severely anemic (my iron stores level was literally like 2.9) and had to get weekly iron infusions, for which i am still getting more of every few weeks for maintenance. i needed B12 injections as well. i had to have surgery to widen the pyloric valve (the valve involved in stomach emptying) so that my stomach would hopefully empty faster. i developed a hiatal hernia because my food was just coming back up so often. though my surgery did help somewhat, i still have nights where i wake up choking on my own vomit. it is not glamorous, the way that these celebrities might make it seem, showing up on the red carpet having dropped 3 sizes. i bet they can't eat a normal sized meal without feeling sick. i bet they're tired, nauseated, dizzy, and weak. and they're gonna keep feeling like shit until they stop the drug, after which they will immediately gain the weight back and MORE due to the body's tendency to rebound after a period of starvation. and then they'll probably try some new fad diet or drug or procedure in a desperate attempt to lose the weight again. it's absurd and it's depressing. remember, if you only love your body for what it looks like, that is not love. that is objectification.
Thin is often very unhealthy as well, in addition to this there are problems with bring thin, there are reproductive, skeletal, mental and other physical side effects. Eating disorders kill too. Yet this is not brought up sometimes. Womenn in hospice will refuse cake because they don't want to be fat.
I would caution conflating thin with eating disorders. Many large folks also have disordered eating. Not getting treated for that because of this assumption kills them too.
Thin is not a synonym for underweight. Or for an eating disorder. The overwhelming majority of healthy weight people eat an appropriate amount of food, exercise regularly and don't have any sort of disordered eating.
In this video it was taking about extremes. So to clarify! The *context* of this video it is pushing to be unnaturally very thin, past what is healthy or ideal for your body. The context here being key!!!
@@susanholl5994 that wasn't what this video was talking about. As the video said, Hollywood isn't pushing for healthy. I was referring the extremes that are being pushed for. Sorry I falsely assumed it would be clear from the context I was talking about the push to be as thin as possible which implies disordered eating.
My husband was prescribed Ozempic for his type-2 diabetes but hasn't been able to get any for months, making it challenging to manage his condition. (Obviously, he manages it with diet and exercise as well, but the medication halted the worst aspects of the disease and its progression.) But I'm glad Hollywood starlets and billionaires will look nice for swimsuit season. JFC. Worst damned timeline.
Just to add, Jameela Jamil has been outspoken against the use of diabetic medications for off-label weight loss and cites her own negative experiences with doing this a decade or so ago
As a nurse, the celebrities using this drug sicken me, but the people who really piss me off are all of these boutique physicians who are actually allowing this to happen in the first place!!! Not only does it severely impact the health of those who need this drug but taking medically unnecessary medications is so flipping dangerous I could scream. I'm absolutely DISGUSTED by these physicians 🤬🤬🤬
I haven't even watched the video yet, but I still have to share my story 😅 I got a presciption for ozempic and it was so nerv wrecking to always be unsure if I'd get a new dose. "Luckily" I began to have horrible side effects and I can't use it anymore. (When I've been using it for 6 months I could keep down mainly liquid/mushy foods eaten VERY slow.) My blood glucose is quite high again, but it's better still because I don't have to cry in the pharmacy 'cos I can't get enough the drug I needed and I can actually eat again. My father once visited 7 pharmasies in the day where ozempic was at sale again and it was already gone from all or reseved to other costumers. Most pharmasies don't even take reservations anymore.
Wygovy and Saxenda are actually approved for weight loss alone. Ozempic is approved for diabetes with a desirable side effect of weight loss. This is why many insurance plans will pay for Saxenda and Wygovy, but not Ozempic in people without diabetes. Obesity is a medical condition that can be treated with medication and surgery. Seeking medical help solely to treat your obesity is not shallow. People in a healthy bmi taking unnecessary medication for weight loss is what is disordered.
Most insurances don't like to pay for Saxenda or Wegovy either. And specific diagnoses weren't really a requirement for coverage of Ozempic until recently, when the off-label use took off.
I am overweight and could probably get a prescription for this to help me lose weight, however I’m not diabetic. Therefore the thought of using medication someone needs to manage diabetes is crazy to me. I’ve just focused on working with a nutritionist and personal trainer. I would rather learn better long term eating habits than take a medication when IDEK the long term effects. People can be thoughtless and cruel.
Probably, the hormonal effects of ozempic/wegovy are temporary. All hormones have a feedback system in the body. If you have too much of one, over time your body will compensate.
Type 2 diabetic here. I'm supposed to be taking an injectable in the same class as Ozempic and I've been hit by the one-two punch of my insurance not being willing to cover it desptite covering it for at least two months prior, and the pharmacy not having it even if it was covered.
Ironically I take Vyvanse for off label use as treatment for atypical POTS (it raises my blood pressure enough to prevent passing out when I stand up or lift my arms up) and a certain media popularized anxiety medication for a panic disorder and complex PTSD. I was used to having to jump through hoops to get the second medication, but for the Vyvanse I have to see my doctor in person or via telehealth every 28 days, and occasionally go cold turkey without it for a week or more because it's not in stock. Tell no one ever that you're taking a stimulant, because they will badger you to sell them to them. Weight loss may be a good thing in the right context, medication abuse never is.
Fun story... my mom held an intervention for me this past weekend and told me that they're concerned i have an eating disorder and need inpatient treatment and she said that "you know you have an eating disorder". I actually don't know because i'm solidly in the grey zone and upon further thought i was thinking that it's because our whole society is disordered and thought of Wygovy.. How is injecting drugs into your body to lose weight (even if you're overweight) not an eating disorder as well? Seems like our society is disordered when it comes to both food and also body standards/ideals. Even more so if you're already thin and you're injecting drugs to become waif like
For a person who gains 10 pounds every 6 months and throws away the closes every half a year, I'd use it just to stop blowing up like a freaking balloon. I know for a fact I don't have blood sugar issues, but the doctors say I might have some hormone issue connected to storing fat in the body. I tried both Victoza and Saxenda (while living in Eastern Europe) with little to no success (I had to do injections every day and it's not very pleasant after a couple of weeks to shoot yourself in a stomach). Ozempic is too risky, here's the quote from their website: "It is not known if Ozempic® will cause thyroid tumors or a type of thyroid cancer called medullary thyroid carcinoma (MTC) in people." Next time I go see my doctor I'll ask about Wegovy and see if it's the same thing as Ozempic.
Once Ozempic been on the market for 7 years the patent ends and it goes generic (fun aside, medications are the only patents that expire, so along with it direct financial profit for the maker). I wonder if the willingness to let doctors prescribe it off label will stop with that cutoff
A lot of drugs, especially cash cow injectables, get their patents extended. Humira (adalimumab) has been on the market for 21 years, and is only now (theoretically!) going to have biosimilar generics available in 2023.
Thinness as a health ideal is really damaging. CW: discussions of weight and depression In the first year of pandemic I lost a little over ten pounds, which put me below 100 lbs for the first time since middle school. It was not healthy. But I still got compliments from my family for it. Eventually, I just started saying “Thanks it’s the crippling depression. I sleep half the day and barely have an appetite. Haha” I have gotten treatment and have gotten back to a healthy weight but Jesus it felt icky to be complimented for it
My dad has diabetes. I cannot believe people are basically making these drugs harder for people like my dad to obtain just because of vanity. There are other ways to embrace weight loss that is not dangerous !!
Does anyone else think of that scene from the hunger games movie when in The second movie, Catching Fire, during the binge before they go back to battle in the Quarter Quell island, the rich capitol lady gives the Katniss and Peeta the liquid that is supposed to make you puke so you can continue eating again? This kind of reminds me of that, except it prevents you from eating too much in the first place (as I understand ozempic and mounjaro can suppress appetite.) But the point still stands: We in the United States are surrounded by a LOT of food and much of it is processed and unhealthy, and made to be tasty and somewhat addictive, all for the sake of increasing profits. I imagine if we lived in a less capitalist country, we would have less kids going hungry, less food waste overall, and better quality food/better food preservation to retain healthy nutrients instead of merely preserving "shelf life". Drugs like ozempic would be kept to strictly use by folks with diabetes or pre diabetes, not necessarily for the vanity of losing weight fast, size losing weight fast would be less of an issue in our society if there were less people who were very overweight due to better quality food and food education..
As someone who was recently diagnosed to be prediabetic (got already really good results by changing the diet and getting a walkpad which I use even now writing this comment) and prescribed metformin which is also used by many for weightloss, I just don't get it. I was for 3 bad months on metformin, then 2 months off and now I am 2 weeks on it again and it's just horrible. Constant stomach and gut pain, diarrhea, and just generally feeling sick. My only goal at the moment and my biggest motivation to exercise is to get off this medicine. I am lucky to be able to get off it as I recently moved from pre-diabetic to at risk for diabetes (which is great) but damn it's a horrible medicine.
Ozempic in Europe is 40$ per 2 weeks. The injected version is unavailable, so I have to take in the pill version Rybelsus, 40$ per 10 days, 40 min everyday on empty stomach, then euthyrox 30 min on empty stomach, total 70 min before I can eat breakfast. Ozempic is injected once a week. I have no side effects, it helps me a lot since due to my illness nothing worked. But as far as i know, every fat person has insulin resistance, so they are eligible. Also ozempic is just a peptide, should be safe for anyone to take. It's just the shortage, that is a problem.
We should be happy that so many people want Ozempic/Wegovy because in the long run the supply will increase greatly and the drug will become a lot more affordable. As for diabetes patients, there are many drugs on the market with similar properties such as Trulicity and Mounjaro. Recently the price of insulin has been dramatically reduced. What we need is more education on the prevention of diabetes & obesity.
It is not hard, especially for a man, to loose weight rapidly with a ketogenic or carnivore diet. DeSantis hasn’t lost that much weight. He probably changed his diet or cut back on junk.
It's a shame that people are put under social pressure to be an unhealthy weight. Normal everyday people are comparing their appearance to public figures who have a whole team of people, employed to manage their aesthetic.
I got a clutch deal at a med spa but only for 4-6 weeks, like under $100 a week. I needed help with my weight loss process because I've been going through stress cycles and fall off my program time and time again, I've been stuck around 220lbs for about 3 years now and needed a boost to finally get me back under 200lbs. I do work out and eat well but it's a mental process as well. I just wanna like what I see in the mirror, that's all.
12:18 Technically, it all takes work. Even when taking the fastest routes available. Literally cutting off part of the stomach or using a drug to force better eating habits. There is no such thing as a magic pill. Surgery and drugs for weight-loss both require the user to learn better habits to maintain and continue their results. Failure to do so is why so many gain the weight back.
True and not true, I mean, people with money just get a shit ton of liposuction. They might do a little more work but if you can afford fat freezing and plastic surgery you can like, be unhealthy and achieve that Instagram model look to a degree
Mindy Kalings weight loss is crazy. I've thought are people now focused on being super thin. Why do we have to go to the extreme? Celebrating unhealthy weights for people's weight either being too large or too small.
@@ness0388 - When I saw how much she lost, it is quite thin from what I see. I noticed that her head doesn't match her body. Her shoulders are very small and narrow, then her head is larger. If you lose weight in a healthy manner, your whole body will be proportionally in sync from the top of your head to the bottom of your feet. If you look at her on the Office during seasons one and two when she was thin, her whole body matched from the top to bottom.
Call me naive but i see Mindy Kaling a lot on videos about ozempic and it kinda irks me because i don't think it's been confirmed that she's used it... Elon and Chelsea, fair game, they've talked about it... This is a comment about all the videos on this topic not just this one
I just had a conversation with a patient today who uses semaglutide for his diabetes and he’s had to jump through so many hoops to get it this year including needing to change from one brand name to another, and the price has gone up considerably and it’s just one of the many medications he needs. Price gouging by pharmaceutical companies (for this and other meds that are literally life saving: epipen, albuterol, insulin) is abhorrent.
« Statement sleeves ». REALLY CHELSEA?! Not you, not now, not after calling out the 2017 (?) weird sleeves plague. Now we know you sold your soul to advertisers. [the video was great as usual though!!! ❤️]
All your points are valid but I think you’re missing a key point. What if a person’s inability to lose weight is not a moral failure but a physical -perhaps genetic issue? What if it isn’t about calories in Vs calories out? There is a giant global industry based on that lie. What will they do/have they done to perpetuate it? What if this natural peptide is evidence that there is a deficiency and something as easy as a “daily vitamin” could make an enormous difference? I would rather to that than radical abdominal surgery. IMO the ozempic debate is looking in the wrong direction.
But didn’t Chelsea start prating Intermittent Fasting to lose weight? And did she lose like 40 lbs and still practices it? Obviously not a drug, but a lifestyle geared towards thinness regardless, no?
To be clear: I myself have lost over forty pounds by practicing IF. My question has nothing to do with the hoarding of the drug, which is awful in several ways, but the overall message that thin = better and the lengths people go, the lengths I myself have gone, to achieve that. I’ve been wondering in what ways I have privately and publicly engaged with a practice (time-restricted eating, dieting, etc) with the sole purpose of altering my appearance, of looking and being thinner. Is there anyone who isn’t motivated by this sinister cultural standard in some way, who hasn't tried to significantly change at least one aspect of their lives to be smaller? Again: screw celebrities and the way they steal resources from people. I’m not advocating for them.
I will say as someone with ADHD and having dealt with the stimulant shortages because of the popularity spike of Adderall, I want to make sure that we don't lose the plot. While this behavior from celebrities is irresponsible, the blame ultimately lays at the feet of the companies that make these drugs and our healthcare system. These drugs are not naturally scarce, they are scarce because one company with a state guaranteed monopoly produces the quantity that maximizes profit instead of the quantity we actually need.
I'm usually the first one in line to shit on a pharma company, but every company in manufacturing sets production levels based on demand projections. In most cases, the pricing of pharmaceuticals is based on R&D costs, not straight supply and demand. In this particular instance, how could they possibly have foreseen that their diabetes drug was going to become hugely popular among celebrities and the elites for weight loss purposes?
@@supernova622 You do know that, even knowing that they had shortages & where they had put more of their production into wegovy (same exact medication as ozempic, owned by same company) they advertised during the Super Bowl?
NovoNordisk absolutely is behind the scarcity issues. This has been discussed openly and widely.
Patients are demonized regarding the scarcity instead of the company who is actually responsible for it.
SAME. I literally just commented the exact same thing!!!
Do you pay their scientists to research this drug? How many billions they lose trying to research this and thousand other drugs that may or may not work out? Their product their choice, their money their choice.
@soorian I went off Vyvance because I was getting asked for my meds. Tip to those new to ADHD- don’t tell anyone you’re on meds! And I have lupus and getting my Plaquenil during the pandemic was crazy- it was suddenly treated like a narcotic! smh.
“A culture fixated on female thinness is not an obsession about female beauty, but an obsession about female obedience. Dieting is the most potent political sedative in women’s history; a quietly mad population is a tractable one.”
-Naomi Wolf- The Beauty Myth
It’s also about fetishizing youth and eternal life. To be thin is symbolically to be young, underdeveloped, controllable, weak, impressionable, incompetent, dependent, and ignorant. The obsession with women’s thinness is part of how men get away with “not knowing she was a minor” or referring to a child as a woman. It allows for confusion between the image of the child with the image of the adult. It is also immensely racist and eugenicist.
I love this quote, thanks for sharing!
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@@Lau3464l wow, yeah
Hmmm, maybe instead of medicine and drugs to get skinny just resurrect artist Peter Paul Rubens so he can bring back Rubenesque women as a beauty standard🤔😏🙂jk but ‘Pete’ the old artist would probably think Kate Moss needs to eat more👍🤔😳🙄😊
As someone who previously worked in healthcare and often had to help patients jump through hoops to get their expensive Ozempic for more affordable prices (applying for patient assistance programs etc.) I was appalled to learn about non diabetics taking Ozempic for weightloss and the shortages that have ensued. Encapsulates a lot of what is wrong with our American society today.
@Beastbombshell 1) diabetes, more often than not, is not controllable by diet alone 2) one of semaglutide’s effects is dietary changes, as it slows down digestion and changes the body’s response to carbs, so it makes dietary changes - which are not just a matter of “willpower” - a lot more attainable and comfortable. Semaglutide is a complete game-changer for a lot of people with diabetes. It’s not a bad drug.
Whether Ozempic is a good drug or a bad drug, access to medical needs that may include medications for health conditions, should be a right, not a privilege. If someone with diabetes needs this medication to live their best life with their condition, it should be affordable and available for them. People taking drugs like this for vanity reasons, thus decreasing the availability for those who actually need it, is problematic.
Most people who suffer from binge eating disorder need therapy and knowledge, not a drug...
If you truly worked in healthcare, you would understand the ramifications of long term obesity on not only the patient but on our society as well. These glp1 and glp2 medications are NOT first line medications for type 1 diabetics. Also, do you also realize that the majority of people who are taking these medications for weight loss are pre diabetic. Stop shaming people for trying to get healthier.
@@roxyred0145 OP didn't say anything about the meds being first line for type 1 diabetics, though??? Also, "losing weight" does not always equal "getting healthier." Frankly, at this juncture in my life, I'm not convinced weight loss in and off itself is an especially useful health goal, unless you are literally so obese that you have difficulty moving around. We also don't know what the long-term ramifications of this type of weight loss are. Does the weight stay gone if you discontinue the drug? Or does it come back with a vengeance, as it does after crash dieting? Are there health risks we don't yet know about that might be worth risking for the sake of controlling a disease but not for the sake of weight loss alone? We don't know. I have a feeling there is another shoe yet to drop with this off-label use. Time will tell.
I remember in the '90s when my mom took medication that literally gave her heart palpitations and made her manic and angry all the time to be thin. I am not willing to hurt myself to fit society's idea of what my body should look like.
Seriously. We need to make peace with our bodies
My body is hurting through obesity and insulin resistant PCOS. This manages my insulin resistance and works for me where nothing else has - do I not deserve health and happiness?
Yep...bet you're talking about phen phen or phentermine. That shit was awful. Did the same thing to me. Cheers not being young and dumb anymore.
Phen phen! My mom took it too and ended up with a heart valve prolapsing.
poor quality food being the cheapest food is class war
And the standard is always the opposite of the effects of food available to poor people.
walkable neighborhoods being low in supply and expensive to buy in is also class war
The same way the beauty standard is set by the ruling class. It was fashionable to be pale for ages, as it meant you didn't have to work outside. Until Coco Chanel (Look into her history if you want a story) came back from her vacation tanned. Then tan skin became the symbol of the leisure class.
In poor countries, poor people are thin, rich people are fat. In the US, poor people are fat, rich people are thin
@@MrsRemyLebeau You forgot the other factor, work moving indoors to factories, so the working class became pale.
I studied endocrinology during my PhD, and BRUH the body is so smart and adaptable. There are many methods in it to maintain homeostatic balance, and when there is an influx of a hormone concentration much higher than usual, the body decrease the availability of receptors. So I can only imagine the effects this drug is going to have over the long term. There could very well be epigenetic changes to the production of the original hormone and the binding receptors necessary... I'm very intrigued to see what the long-term studies reveal to those that aren't already fighting hormone and receptor imbalances like diabetes.
Excuse my ignorance but does that mean it will have good long term consequences for diabetics?
lol I know right?!?! honestly, this drug, and hormone drugs in general are always such interesting areas of research! I am interested to see what the effects on mental health are going to be since some studies are suggesting that GLP plays a role in neurodegeneration and mood regulation.
@@Delightfullydee7 right now the data suggests that this drug provides heart and kidney protection to people with diabetes. True long-term population data is not yet available since this is a newer drug. People with diabetes already have a hormonal/metabolic imbalance (diabetes) so this drug acts as a correction, while people taking it for vanity weight loss do not have the imbalance and are inducing an imbalance instead when they take this drug. This is a vastly different population from the study population so data on this is even more scarce and it is hard to apply the study data to these people.
@@Delightfullydee7 I honestly don't know if it would, but as someone taking it for medical reasons, then long terms effect are less of a concern compared to short term survival or treatment. As compared to those living without diabetes already and just taking additional hormones to lose an extra 20 lbs or however much.
Thank you for this! I think another massive misconception or harmful conflation in our society is the notion that diabetes or "obesity" are a failure of the individual's will power. Your comment grounds the disease in a physiological concept related to hormones and receptors. Thank you!!
my dad (58) just got prescribed ozempic for his diabetes and the pharmacist legit told him to be careful going to his car so he doesn't get mugged. never got this warning with his pain pills after his back surgery. but something like this seems really ridiculous. it has been making him less hungry and he only eats about half a burger and some fries (for example) instead of clearing the plate for a meal but i make him feel better by finishing his fries for him lolz
Ur a good child lol
I wish doctors prescribed lifestyle changes more (for certain things ofc) than they do pills
@@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL Many doctors DO, but medicine and lifestyle changes help many people.
Is he getting nutrition counseling? I hope he doesn't feel too guilty about not clearing his plate which is learned behavior.
@@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL You have NO concept of what people go through to get this stuff and it shows. Please check your uninformed perspective and do some research.
Pharmacist here. We are all so sick of Ozempic, Trulicity, Mounjaro, Wegovy, etc. The backorders have been horrible and a real pain in the butt for our diabetic patients.
My PCP has tried to prescribe me ozempic 4x now. I almost died of pancreatitis in 2015, and that is one of the only things on my medical record. I am not diabetic, and while I do have some slight insulin resistance from PCOS, it is easily managed by metformin which has way fewer side effects…
My mom (who literally survived ovarian cancer two years ago) was also pressured to take it for solely weight loss purposes. The lack of concern for patient well-being that drs pushing ozempic are demonstrating strikes me as so callous and awful.
But could it be (speculating here), that your BMI index in an unhealthy range (above 24) and the doctor thinks that without weight loss you can acquire type 2 diabetes? That seems like one of the legit reasons to prescribe the drug...
@@Valerie-s6n it is not that. My blood sugar has been in a consistent stable range for the past 15+ years that I've been doing bloodwork every 3-6 months for my medication. I have PCOS, which does make it difficult to lose weight, and I do take steps to control my insulin resistance/diet, but that isn't your business. The fundamental point is that there is *no* reason to prescribe someone whose blood sugar is in normal ranges a drug that may give them a condition that almost killed them years before, especially when less severe options exist.
Additionally, as a scholar who works on these things, long-term weight loss is unsustainable, and weight is largely genetic (no study has shown success for any diet past 5 years, and that's not for lack of trying to prove it by the diet inducstry). Dieting and extreme measures can increase insulin resistance over time. The BMI was developed by an astronomer in Europe as a *population-wide* measure of *white men.* The entire history of diet culture is steeped in eugenics, to the point where the science is dubious at best. It's also difficult to disentangle the side effects of being overweight from the effects of doctors ignoring legitimate health concerns that fat people have, leading them to not receive treatment and be told to take ozempic instead. Happy to send you the readings my undergraduates do on this subject.
@Beastbombshell because it's hard? You need to be really sure to do it. All the additional knowledge you need to get, regular cooking, calories counting etc. Sayin "no" at the parties to unhealthy options.
@@heatherswadley9727 ok, I see your point. I sorry you had to go through this experience.
I would like to say these types of meditations could be a huge benefit for those with PCOS especially if they want to have a baby. PCOS precursor to diabetes and if not managed can lead to other complications such as heart disease.
These medications should only be for those would benefit from them, health wise.
Also, some cannot tolerate metformin to manage their insulin resistance. If these medications can do that plus help a person suffering from diabetes lose weight I’m all for it.
But just like Michael Jackson, people with money/fame will eventually find that 1 physician or pharmacist that won’t say NO.
I know many of the comments will be about the primary topic, but the ad before is what raised my eyebrows. I get that TFD needs to pay bills, but to offer a regular retail ad dressed up with words like "investment" and "value" seems counter to your standard messaging. I understand that we are all at different levels of financial security, but there are better, more univeraally helpful products to push than more clothes. And can we talk about the disconnect of a chic clothing ad that runs before a discussion of the classism of weight. Almost too many juxtapositions to take this vid seriously.
💯 They make a lot of questionable sponsorship decisions on this channel. It's always disappointing.
As far as I have heard from RUclips content creators, they have no control over which ads play during their videos, only where the ad breaks will be. I get your concern; hopefully the advertisers are throwing their money away on the wrong audience while helping support a channel we love.
You did a fantastic job discussing this topic...there are just so many things wrong with the whole issue. It's just so insane to try and fathom we have actually come to this!
The issue isn’t obese or overweight people using this for weight loss and diabetes prevention . The issue is people who are already at healthy weight using this to get model skinny . Or those using wegovy without changing their eating patterns or increasing their activity. Bc I’m betting a lot of diabetics or patients with heart problems would have used this before they became diabetics and or had heart failure to prevent it from happening if they had the chance.
Yeah I have insulin resistance and PCOS and I'm trying not to become diabetic.
Exactly. It's completely legitimate to prescribe this to an obese person in my opinion. Someone at an already healthy weight? No way.
I'm obese with insulin resistant PCOS. I've been trying to lose weight my entire life, and this is the most exciting and effective thing I've tried. The world hates me when I'm fat; it also hates me when I find a way to improve my health and happiness. We can't win!
Love your videos as a cusp mellennial, I always find your videos so informative without being preachy! Thats a hard route to ride in this space. So thanks for your content xx.
I live in the UK and one of my closest friend's has been using Ozempic to manage her diabetes for around 2 years. Recently she has not been able to get her prescription filled. The West's obsession with skinny - and body shape 'trends' - has real life, worldwide repercussions. It's beyond gross to me.
I went to my primary care doctor and told him I'd been trying to lose weight but having trouble, hoping for some advice on diet and exercise. He immediately asked me if I wanted Ozempic or Mounjaro. If I hadn't heard of them and known they were for diabetics, he may not have even told me and I may be taking them right now, thinking they were the best option for me because my doctor told me to take it.
Congrats Chelsea. My mom take semaglutide for her diabetes and stage II obesity and it is sad to know that sometimes meds are not available because of the internet buzz and illegal side uses of the medication. Great job, keep going! Greetings from Bogotá, Colombia.
Wegovy is not for diabetes. It is for obesity. You must have a higher than a certain BMI and/or certain weight-related illness. And even with the drug, you have to exercise and eat well. It is not a miracle drug, except for those with chronic obesity who have tried everything else and are facing serious health issues with out an intervention. More research and less judgment would be useful. Most people who use these drugs are not Kardishians and I think making blanket and somewhat uninformed statements about the pros and cons of the drugs might shame or scare people who might really need the drugs from considering them as an option. Just a thought.
I've had similar struggle few years ago to an access to diabetic medication in my country. I have insulinoresistance and back then I was using popular medicine for diabetis and insulinoresistance. Back then mafia was smuggling a lot of medicine to the west and I was not able to get medication. I was driving 30-40 km to get the last package of medicine in drug store (it was the closest distance where I could find it). Thankfuly this is over now and I also off this type of medicine, but I can't imagine going through the same thing again. I feel sorry for everyone who ends up in the situation where can't get their drugs
If you call yourself an anti aging doctor, you should have you medical license questioned.
And Handler is so ridiculous… she “didn’t even know she was taking it?” How stupid.
When was thinnes out? These drugs are helping people lose the weight fast but the obsession with being thin has never gone away. Some people have just help add additional features to the thin af frame but being thin and the perception of being thin equals being healthy or more attractive is like death, is guaranteed to be here until the end of time.
I think it depends. "Thin" as in healthy weight or "thin" as in underweight? I see a lot of people, particularly in the radical fat acceptance crowd basically saying anyone who isn't morbidly obese is "thin". Whereas most people know the term to mean gaunt, malnourished, underweight, et cetera.
A healthy weight has never gone out of style. While peak beauty standards have changed throughout the years, healthy weights have always been attractive.
Though if we are indeed talking about the thin that means underweight, that has only been fashionable in the 1990s to early 2000s.
@@taylorhillard4868 when Renee Zellwieger went up to *gasp* 130lbs and a size 8, she was criticized for being "sooooo fat" even though that's a healthy, average weight for a woman her height. In fashion and acting, anything over a size 6 is considered "plus" even though thats much smaller than average and would technically be underweight for a lot of women. Thin has always been in. Not average. Not medium. Thin, as in a size 4.
@@jacquelinealbin7712 yeah but I'm not talking about trashy magazines and tabloids, I mean actual standards of attraction and what most people find beautiful.
@@taylorhillard4868 r/whoosh
It’s a social construct, not a natural phenomenon. You just need to look across cultures and across time periods to know as much. Hence: it can change, as social values evolve.
This reminds me of the significant price increase for those of us taking hydroxychloroqine when donald announced, based on no good evidence, that it would probably cure covid. And three years later, the price has not come down even though at this point everyone seems to agree that it does not cure or prevent covid. In fact, my refill just last week was up $43.
A refill for $43 with insurance is waaaaay to much. That sucks I'm sorry
Yes, the pharmacist told me to see if my doctor could prescribe something else. Thankfully, I knew of a mail rx company and got it from them instead.
God, that's such bullshit.
I had no clue the prices never came down… that’s so unfair, Im sorry you have to deal with this situation
I appreciate the discussion around class, thinness and this current diet fad. I would, however, caution against conflating weight with health. Also, there are not only no long term studies for how Ozempic will affect thin people, but the same is true for fat people as well. I recommend Aubrey Gordon's book, You Just Need to Lose Weight or the podcast Maintenance Phase to begin to better understand the depth of anti-fat bias in ourselves and society as a whole.
Lifelong fat chick here. Used to be thinner, but then gained 100lbs from psych meds, then over a few years managed to lose half of that and have been at a stable weight for 2 years. I strongly considered Ozempic/other GLP1s. But my health is good, and at this point in my life would not further improve by losing weight (though admittedly, I should work out more for better muscle endurance). And knowing that as soon as I stop taking it, I would gain the weight back, and probably also have my finally-healthy relationship with food be ruined for years. Some people do need it for weight-related health issues, like high blood pressure or prediabetes/PCOS, but luckily I'm not one of them at this point in my life. Not to mention my dose possibly being taken from somebody who needs it for health reasons, and the side effects that seem pretty unpleasant... And if you take it for life to avoid regain, you deal with those side effects also for life. I don't blame actual, everyday fat people (or even fat celebrities) for taking it just for weight loss though- I have been judged and mistreated for my weight my whole life, and being able to just opt out of that with a weekly shot is tempting... Like I said, I looked into it for myself. But thin celebrities taking it, like Kim K? Thats not just ridiculous, but dangerous for everyone involved.
Good for you! Positive lifestyle changes are the way to go!
@@KittySnicker the bulk of my initial weight loss was from bariatric surgery, but maintaining the loss was due to learning that I need to listen to my body's signals, especially to not keep eating when I'm full/not just eat out of boredom (even now, I feel physically ill if I eat past my limits). Though I think the surgery just, essentially, created a new set point for my body as a metabolic baseline after the first year or two. It's been about 5 years since surgery, and 2-3 years of this new baseline. I'm pretty sure that the sleeve modification has since stretched out in these 5 years- I can have a pretty normal size meal, compared to my frends and partner. But if I go beyond that instead of packing leftovers, I feel it. Versus Ozempic, where your metabolic set point doesn't seem to change, and your body fights you to go back to your previous baseline as soon as you stop taking it, based on a lot of studies I've read. I am planning on doing a standard "more lean protein, less processed carbs" type of thing to lose a bit of this weight that's stuck around... I probably won't lose as much this way as I would if I took Ozempic. But at least I realize that if I stop a moderate diet, my metabolism and hunger signals won't be totally skewed, and it's easier to watch out for regain and do something about it, without having to fight intense feelings of hunger while trying to avoid regain, which seems to be what happens when you stop Ozempic.
As a health educator who is short and plus sized, being skinny doesn't automatically mean someone is "more fit" or "healthier." Being plus sized doesn't automatically make me sickly. I hike or walk almost every day. Fitness and health are relative to someone's Social Determinants of Health like race, gender, employment status, family support, housing, etc.
There's serious concern about longterm side effects of taking medications that aren't necessary to maintain your health. Some side effects may not show up for years. I think the FDA should restrict these drugs solely for people who need them to maintain their health and wellness. Thank you for sharing this thoughtful commentary.
I am just eating healthier, not eating processed foods and exercising more. My brother told me about this drug but my insurance will not cover it unless I get my doctor to prescribe it for me. At first I was interested in it because I wanted to lose the weight fast but today I just found out all the health risk it has. I rather just cut my carbs, not eat processed foods and exercise to lose weight. Even though it will probably take a year or even two years to lose all the weight. I also found out that once you stop the drug you end up putting a lot of the weight back anyway.
I think this conversation leaves out the vast majority of people and does a disservice to obese/overweight patients across the country. Users of ozempic are not just a dichotomy of diabetic patients who will die without ozempic on one end and rich/famous thin people on the other side. This video, like most takes ive heard on ozempic feel kind of misinformed to me because the vast majority of people on the drug dont fall into either category. The non wealthy person with controlled diabetes but also obesity who want to lose weight- not included in this conversation. The non celebrity obese woman with PCOS who wants to lose weight- not included in this conversation. I am so tired of these moralistic takes that demonize the obvious enemy (those trying to get as you say “bella hadid level thin”) but that hatred carries over to obese patients who are not diabetic.
I feel like people who rile against wegovy never got a medical exam to get it prescribed. They fail to realize they aren't doctors and therefore have no idea what someone's medical history is. I wish they would do more research before demonizing a drug that can actually make people healthier and prevent diabetes in the first place
thank you. the only sensible comment i've seen yet.
The New York Times did a story on how there’s been a massive shift in how the medical world think about childhood obesity and by proxy adult obesity because of recent studies showing it is potentially at the level of a medical disease requiring more rigorous treatment outside of just diet and exercise. So I hear you.
I agree so much with this comment, which is why this whole video felt off to me. Some good points were made, but I think the media conversation on this topic has become a moral panic and involves a lot of unconscious bias around shaming people for “cheating” by losing weight “the wrong way.” If someone wants to take this drug, it’s between them and their doctor. I don’t like the idea of means testing drugs based on who “really” needs it vs who’s going off label. Chelsea has advocated using Botox for TMJ, and that’s off label! And more power to her. Let’s interrogate the cultural desire to be thin at all costs, yes, but don’t demonize the drug.
The comment I was looking for!
I promise I watched, learned from, and enjoyed the video, but your hair is just lovely 😍
I did a medical research study for semaglutide. The requirement was to be overweight. I was unfortunately was in the placebo group. I realized that pretty quickly and stopped injecting myself with w.e compound they had. My counterparts were in awe at the weight they lost. It does work. It’s weird seeing things actually come to market when your apart of the testing.
“Eliminating feelings of shame, anxiety, and guilt…” okay but maybe we could root out fat-shaming and create enough space in our society for real conversations about health and wellness and eliminate those feelings without abusing drugs? Just a thought.
Yes, thank you! I was thinking the same thing! Those feelings come from a thin-obsessed society, not the actual weight!
Agreed big time
What if we just make positive lifestyle changes to get to a healthy weight? It’s not about thinness. It’s about not putting excess pressure on your joints and not getting heart disease and a score of other health issues.
@@KittySnicker exactly!
Very interesting video! Not sure if you were talking so fast because it was a rant or that’s just how u speak sometimes. Also I will say nuuly is close to $80 a month (last I checked a while back) despite the fact that you’re getting 6 items a month.. I think that $80 should definitely be disclosed as part of your “clothing budget”.
*shakes fist in health insurance* thanks to people abusing Ozempic, prediabetic and diabetic patients are struggling to get it and jumping through INSANE hoops to get it authorized because of these jerks. It makes me so angry because I get people breaking down or yelling at me on the phone because they need it and can't have it. 😠
Wegovy: harder to get
Mounjaro: forget it you can't get a prior auth for that
As the wife of a type 1 diabetic, with a type 2 diabetic father, this truly upsets me. My father can hardly get his medications because of shortages. If he didn't work for the state as a caregiver, he'd not be able to get it at all. And I can't image if insulin was in a shortage, because that would be a death certificate to my type 1 husband. This really makes me want to scream eat the rich.
I am one of those unlucky diabetic patients who have been negatively impacted by this. I take the medication Trulicity which is an injectable in the same class as Ozempic, and the amount of times I have not been able to fulfill my medication is not only frustrating but also a real detriment to my health. Delays are taking weeks to months for a medication I am prescribed to take once a week. Through lots of hard work, I got my A1C down from 14 to 6.8, but the effects of now not being able to consistently get my medication it's gone back up to 8.6! It really is unethical to take medication many need to live for vanity purposes.
Thank you, Chelsea. You're a voice of sanity in a chaotic world.
my partner lives in the netherlands, and their doctor pressured them to take ozempic for weightloss since their doctor wasn't happy about their weight plateauing. they would be having really bad side effects that stopped them from going to work and ultimately caused them to lose their job (being unable to leave the house for fear of loss of control of your bowels with no warning signs) but their doctor kept telling them they should stick with it over and over. i was outraged and had to help them stand up to this doctor who was basically trying to justify sacrificing my partner's short term health and happiness for some societal idea of what health looks like. The complicated worries about their stomach and feeling less hungry in general added disordered feelings and behaviors toward food, and it just seemed very very irresponsible for this doctor to keep going knowing this was happening, since my partner explained it.
Of course, the fact that the drug is being used this way when there's already a shortage of it for diabetics is just supremely unethical. I don't know exactly how they were able to afford to offer it to my partner, or how it was being comped but it wasn't costing my partner a huge sum of money and it was being presented as an "opportunity" due to how expensive it usually is.
I was prescribed this for Type II Diabetes and I'm really struggling to get this medication on time because it's always on hold at my pharmacy due to lack of supply. Learning about the reason why is just so gross.
Same
In January the Australian govt changed the standard price of prescriptions from around $43 to $30. NovoNordisk have completely discontinued the type of insulin I was on (type 1 diabetic here) because they said they couldn’t afford to at the lower price. They’re absolutely just focused on profit
You're awesome
It's so sad that this is why there's shortages of medication for those that need it. I also can't imagine this is sustainable for long term use!
part of why ozempic causes such extreme weight loss is because it has the side effect of inducing gastroparesis (delayed gastric emptying). that is what causes the decreased appetite, early satiety, and in some cases nausea and vomiting. the food is basically just sitting in your stomach for too long instead of moving through the digestive system at a normal rate like it's supposed to due to this delay in gastric emptying. this causes you to feel full longer, sure, but it's not healthy or good for the human body, even temporarily like the gastroparesis that is induced by ozempic. it is a NEGATIVE AND UNHEALTHY side effect of the medication, AS IS ANY WEIGHT LOSS THAT HAPPENS AS A RESULT.
as someone who HAS gastroparesis, (which is considered a rare and incurable chronic motility disorder, or a paralysis or partial paralysis of the stomach), i cannot fathom why people without diabetes would willingly take a medication with such horrific side effects just to shrink their bodies. i developed gastroparesis for multiple reasons, a big one being my decade long battle with anorexia. starving myself is the single biggest regret of my life because of how it permanently damaged and paralyzed my stomach.
(TW: medical symptom descriptions) i get terrible vitamin and mineral deficiencies now (a very common effect of delayed gastric emptying) because my stomach cannot process nutrients normally. taking supplements doesn't do anything either, because my stomach is too weak to break them down. i became severely anemic (my iron stores level was literally like 2.9) and had to get weekly iron infusions, for which i am still getting more of every few weeks for maintenance. i needed B12 injections as well. i had to have surgery to widen the pyloric valve (the valve involved in stomach emptying) so that my stomach would hopefully empty faster. i developed a hiatal hernia because my food was just coming back up so often. though my surgery did help somewhat, i still have nights where i wake up choking on my own vomit.
it is not glamorous, the way that these celebrities might make it seem, showing up on the red carpet having dropped 3 sizes. i bet they can't eat a normal sized meal without feeling sick. i bet they're tired, nauseated, dizzy, and weak. and they're gonna keep feeling like shit until they stop the drug, after which they will immediately gain the weight back and MORE due to the body's tendency to rebound after a period of starvation. and then they'll probably try some new fad diet or drug or procedure in a desperate attempt to lose the weight again. it's absurd and it's depressing. remember, if you only love your body for what it looks like, that is not love. that is objectification.
Thank you Chelsea for the in depth review of this, I didn't understand why ozempic was becoming so well known until now. Ridiculous.
Thin is often very unhealthy as well, in addition to this there are problems with bring thin, there are reproductive, skeletal, mental and other physical side effects. Eating disorders kill too. Yet this is not brought up sometimes.
Womenn in hospice will refuse cake because they don't want to be fat.
I would caution conflating thin with eating disorders. Many large folks also have disordered eating. Not getting treated for that because of this assumption kills them too.
Thin is not a synonym for underweight. Or for an eating disorder. The overwhelming majority of healthy weight people eat an appropriate amount of food, exercise regularly and don't have any sort of disordered eating.
That doesn’t mean you can’t stop being obese
In this video it was taking about extremes.
So to clarify!
The *context* of this video it is pushing to be unnaturally very thin, past what is healthy or ideal for your body. The context here being key!!!
@@susanholl5994 that wasn't what this video was talking about. As the video said, Hollywood isn't pushing for healthy. I was referring the extremes that are being pushed for. Sorry I falsely assumed it would be clear from the context I was talking about the push to be as thin as possible which implies disordered eating.
My husband was prescribed Ozempic for his type-2 diabetes but hasn't been able to get any for months, making it challenging to manage his condition. (Obviously, he manages it with diet and exercise as well, but the medication halted the worst aspects of the disease and its progression.) But I'm glad Hollywood starlets and billionaires will look nice for swimsuit season. JFC. Worst damned timeline.
Just to add, Jameela Jamil has been outspoken against the use of diabetic medications for off-label weight loss and cites her own negative experiences with doing this a decade or so ago
As a nurse, the celebrities using this drug sicken me, but the people who really piss me off are all of these boutique physicians who are actually allowing this to happen in the first place!!! Not only does it severely impact the health of those who need this drug but taking medically unnecessary medications is so flipping dangerous I could scream. I'm absolutely DISGUSTED by these physicians 🤬🤬🤬
I haven't even watched the video yet, but I still have to share my story 😅 I got a presciption for ozempic and it was so nerv wrecking to always be unsure if I'd get a new dose. "Luckily" I began to have horrible side effects and I can't use it anymore. (When I've been using it for 6 months I could keep down mainly liquid/mushy foods eaten VERY slow.) My blood glucose is quite high again, but it's better still because I don't have to cry in the pharmacy 'cos I can't get enough the drug I needed and I can actually eat again. My father once visited 7 pharmasies in the day where ozempic was at sale again and it was already gone from all or reseved to other costumers. Most pharmasies don't even take reservations anymore.
I just saw a dress that cost $120 and that's considered affordable on that website you showed us but get your bag sis
What about the responsibility from the doctors prescribing these meds? How is prescribing meds for people who don't need it is allowed?
Wygovy and Saxenda are actually approved for weight loss alone. Ozempic is approved for diabetes with a desirable side effect of weight loss. This is why many insurance plans will pay for Saxenda and Wygovy, but not Ozempic in people without diabetes. Obesity is a medical condition that can be treated with medication and surgery. Seeking medical help solely to treat your obesity is not shallow. People in a healthy bmi taking unnecessary medication for weight loss is what is disordered.
Most insurances don't like to pay for Saxenda or Wegovy either. And specific diagnoses weren't really a requirement for coverage of Ozempic until recently, when the off-label use took off.
I am overweight and could probably get a prescription for this to help me lose weight, however I’m not diabetic. Therefore the thought of using medication someone needs to manage diabetes is crazy to me. I’ve just focused on working with a nutritionist and personal trainer. I would rather learn better long term eating habits than take a medication when IDEK the long term effects. People can be thoughtless and cruel.
Wegovy is specifically for weight loss. Im on it and my dr put me on a low carb diet.
Positive lifestyle changes are the way to go so good for you! Shortcuts will always have nasty side effects
Probably, the hormonal effects of ozempic/wegovy are temporary. All hormones have a feedback system in the body. If you have too much of one, over time your body will compensate.
Type 2 diabetic here. I'm supposed to be taking an injectable in the same class as Ozempic and I've been hit by the one-two punch of my insurance not being willing to cover it desptite covering it for at least two months prior, and the pharmacy not having it even if it was covered.
Very ironically I got a noom aka ED lite ad before this video
I took diet pills in my 20s. I'm in my 40s and there's no way I would risk it, knowing the potential side effects.
Took them in my teens. My caffeine tolerance is now super high and through the roof. 😅
Ironically I take Vyvanse for off label use as treatment for atypical POTS (it raises my blood pressure enough to prevent passing out when I stand up or lift my arms up) and a certain media popularized anxiety medication for a panic disorder and complex PTSD. I was used to having to jump through hoops to get the second medication, but for the Vyvanse I have to see my doctor in person or via telehealth every 28 days, and occasionally go cold turkey without it for a week or more because it's not in stock. Tell no one ever that you're taking a stimulant, because they will badger you to sell them to them. Weight loss may be a good thing in the right context, medication abuse never is.
Fun story... my mom held an intervention for me this past weekend and told me that they're concerned i have an eating disorder and need inpatient treatment and she said that "you know you have an eating disorder". I actually don't know because i'm solidly in the grey zone and upon further thought i was thinking that it's because our whole society is disordered and thought of Wygovy.. How is injecting drugs into your body to lose weight (even if you're overweight) not an eating disorder as well? Seems like our society is disordered when it comes to both food and also body standards/ideals. Even more so if you're already thin and you're injecting drugs to become waif like
Has Chelsea announced elsewhere she wrote a novel?! I literally found out from this video. How exciting!
Keep an eye out on this channel this week! ☺
As you said, "drugs of the past." We then said FenFen (you said the full name) in unison. It was that horrifyingly popular.
For a person who gains 10 pounds every 6 months and throws away the closes every half a year, I'd use it just to stop blowing up like a freaking balloon. I know for a fact I don't have blood sugar issues, but the doctors say I might have some hormone issue connected to storing fat in the body.
I tried both Victoza and Saxenda (while living in Eastern Europe) with little to no success (I had to do injections every day and it's not very pleasant after a couple of weeks to shoot yourself in a stomach).
Ozempic is too risky, here's the quote from their website: "It is not known if Ozempic® will cause thyroid tumors or a type of thyroid cancer called medullary thyroid carcinoma (MTC) in people."
Next time I go see my doctor I'll ask about Wegovy and see if it's the same thing as Ozempic.
It is the same thing. MTC is incurable and one of the deadliest forms of thyroid cancer!
MTC was seen in rats only in high doses. Rats have GLP-1 receptors in C cells on the thyroid. Humans don't.
You read my mind, great topics!🎉 Love you Chelsea 💕
Once Ozempic been on the market for 7 years the patent ends and it goes generic (fun aside, medications are the only patents that expire, so along with it direct financial profit for the maker). I wonder if the willingness to let doctors prescribe it off label will stop with that cutoff
A lot of drugs, especially cash cow injectables, get their patents extended. Humira (adalimumab) has been on the market for 21 years, and is only now (theoretically!) going to have biosimilar generics available in 2023.
Seems about right the ad I get for this video is a 40% off promotion for weight loss cold sculpting lol
Damn this channel talking about Ozempic before all the fitness channels has. That's wild 😂
What the heck is an “anti aging doctor”???
A grifter
The opposite of a pro aging Doctor? No one knows for sure. They just make this $#!T up as they go along 😂
A fraud
im assuming its someone celebrities see to give them things that will prevent aging
The only guaranteed way not to age more is to die soon, so maybe that's what they advocate.
Thinness as a health ideal is really damaging.
CW: discussions of weight and depression
In the first year of pandemic I lost a little over ten pounds, which put me below 100 lbs for the first time since middle school. It was not healthy. But I still got compliments from my family for it. Eventually, I just started saying “Thanks it’s the crippling depression. I sleep half the day and barely have an appetite. Haha”
I have gotten treatment and have gotten back to a healthy weight but Jesus it felt icky to be complimented for it
Where did you get your top?
My dad has diabetes. I cannot believe people are basically making these drugs harder for people like my dad to obtain just because of vanity. There are other ways to embrace weight loss that is not dangerous !!
Does anyone else think of that scene from the hunger games movie when in The second movie, Catching Fire, during the binge before they go back to battle in the Quarter Quell island, the rich capitol lady gives the Katniss and Peeta the liquid that is supposed to make you puke so you can continue eating again? This kind of reminds me of that, except it prevents you from eating too much in the first place (as I understand ozempic and mounjaro can suppress appetite.) But the point still stands: We in the United States are surrounded by a LOT of food and much of it is processed and unhealthy, and made to be tasty and somewhat addictive, all for the sake of increasing profits. I imagine if we lived in a less capitalist country, we would have less kids going hungry, less food waste overall, and better quality food/better food preservation to retain healthy nutrients instead of merely preserving "shelf life". Drugs like ozempic would be kept to strictly use by folks with diabetes or pre diabetes, not necessarily for the vanity of losing weight fast, size losing weight fast would be less of an issue in our society if there were less people who were very overweight due to better quality food and food education..
As someone who was recently diagnosed to be prediabetic (got already really good results by changing the diet and getting a walkpad which I use even now writing this comment) and prescribed metformin which is also used by many for weightloss, I just don't get it. I was for 3 bad months on metformin, then 2 months off and now I am 2 weeks on it again and it's just horrible. Constant stomach and gut pain, diarrhea, and just generally feeling sick. My only goal at the moment and my biggest motivation to exercise is to get off this medicine. I am lucky to be able to get off it as I recently moved from pre-diabetic to at risk for diabetes (which is great) but damn it's a horrible medicine.
Ozempic in Europe is 40$ per 2 weeks. The injected version is unavailable, so I have to take in the pill version Rybelsus, 40$ per 10 days, 40 min everyday on empty stomach, then euthyrox 30 min on empty stomach, total 70 min before I can eat breakfast. Ozempic is injected once a week. I have no side effects, it helps me a lot since due to my illness nothing worked. But as far as i know, every fat person has insulin resistance, so they are eligible. Also ozempic is just a peptide, should be safe for anyone to take. It's just the shortage, that is a problem.
Does insurance cover drugs for off label use? I’ve never seen one that does, but I’m curious
We should be happy that so many people want Ozempic/Wegovy because in the long run the supply will increase greatly and the drug will become a lot more affordable. As for diabetes patients, there are many drugs on the market with similar properties such as Trulicity and Mounjaro. Recently the price of insulin has been dramatically reduced. What we need is more education on the prevention of diabetes & obesity.
Wouldn’t be surprised if DeSantis is on Ozempic. Dude looks like he lost weight in a rapidly unhealthily pace.
It is not hard, especially for a man, to loose weight rapidly with a ketogenic or carnivore diet. DeSantis hasn’t lost that much weight. He probably changed his diet or cut back on junk.
no mention of oprah?
And now I keep seeing ads for Ozempic here on RUclips 🙄
It's a shame that people are put under social pressure to be an unhealthy weight. Normal everyday people are comparing their appearance to public figures who have a whole team of people, employed to manage their aesthetic.
I got a clutch deal at a med spa but only for 4-6 weeks, like under $100 a week. I needed help with my weight loss process because I've been going through stress cycles and fall off my program time and time again, I've been stuck around 220lbs for about 3 years now and needed a boost to finally get me back under 200lbs. I do work out and eat well but it's a mental process as well. I just wanna like what I see in the mirror, that's all.
I love you chalsae love your content ✨️❤️ thank you
12:18 Technically, it all takes work. Even when taking the fastest routes available. Literally cutting off part of the stomach or using a drug to force better eating habits. There is no such thing as a magic pill. Surgery and drugs for weight-loss both require the user to learn better habits to maintain and continue their results. Failure to do so is why so many gain the weight back.
True and not true, I mean, people with money just get a shit ton of liposuction. They might do a little more work but if you can afford fat freezing and plastic surgery you can like, be unhealthy and achieve that Instagram model look to a degree
Mindy Kalings weight loss is crazy. I've thought are people now focused on being super thin. Why do we have to go to the extreme? Celebrating unhealthy weights for people's weight either being too large or too small.
I don't think Mindy looks extremely thin. She looks average. I think we are just used to seeing her heavier for so long.
I agree!
@@ness0388 - When I saw how much she lost, it is quite thin from what I see. I noticed that her head doesn't match her body. Her shoulders are very small and narrow, then her head is larger. If you lose weight in a healthy manner, your whole body will be proportionally in sync from the top of your head to the bottom of your feet. If you look at her on the Office during seasons one and two when she was thin, her whole body matched from the top to bottom.
@@trulyjeannette same with Khloe Kardashian. Her head doesn't match her narrower slimmer frame.
@@holographicwing Sorry to say but yes, I do.
Chelsea can you elaborate on why you think the cut article was borderline irresponsible?
Call me naive but i see Mindy Kaling a lot on videos about ozempic and it kinda irks me because i don't think it's been confirmed that she's used it... Elon and Chelsea, fair game, they've talked about it... This is a comment about all the videos on this topic not just this one
I just had a conversation with a patient today who uses semaglutide for his diabetes and he’s had to jump through so many hoops to get it this year including needing to change from one brand name to another, and the price has gone up considerably and it’s just one of the many medications he needs. Price gouging by pharmaceutical companies (for this and other meds that are literally life saving: epipen, albuterol, insulin) is abhorrent.
I'm just leaving a comment long enough hopefully to help the engagement of this video.
The narrow view on this is mind blowing.🙄
Abbey Sharp also just released a video on this topic!
« Statement sleeves ». REALLY CHELSEA?! Not you, not now, not after calling out the 2017 (?) weird sleeves plague. Now we know you sold your soul to advertisers. [the video was great as usual though!!! ❤️]
Aren’t they having supply chain issues (GMP Problems)? Could explain the shortage, rather than attributing it to demand by rich and famous.
I bet the pharma companies are creating an artificial shortage to drive up prices. Also wth is going on with the Vox sponcon for ozempic? Rly sus
All your points are valid but I think you’re missing a key point. What if a person’s inability to lose weight is not a moral failure but a physical -perhaps genetic issue? What if it isn’t about calories in Vs calories out? There is a giant global industry based on that lie. What will they do/have they done to perpetuate it? What if this natural peptide is evidence that there is a deficiency and something as easy as a “daily vitamin” could make an enormous difference? I would rather to that than radical abdominal surgery. IMO the ozempic debate is looking in the wrong direction.
But didn’t Chelsea start prating Intermittent Fasting to lose weight? And did she lose like 40 lbs and still practices it? Obviously not a drug, but a lifestyle geared towards thinness regardless, no?
To be clear: I myself have lost over forty pounds by practicing IF. My question has nothing to do with the hoarding of the drug, which is awful in several ways, but the overall message that thin = better and the lengths people go, the lengths I myself have gone, to achieve that. I’ve been wondering in what ways I have privately and publicly engaged with a practice (time-restricted eating, dieting, etc) with the sole purpose of altering my appearance, of looking and being thinner. Is there anyone who isn’t motivated by this sinister cultural standard in some way, who hasn't tried to significantly change at least one aspect of their lives to be smaller? Again: screw celebrities and the way they steal resources from people. I’m not advocating for them.
Can the too good to be true videos come back! ❤
Thinness is social currency in our society 😢
I'm curious of the long term side effects for already skinny people taking it...
It’s a smack to the face for people who actually need the drug and people That put the work in to drop the LBS the hard way.
The good news is, if we make it through the next decade or two effective weight loss drugs will be available for the survivors!
Florals for spring? Groundbreaking.
Sorry I had to.
I appreciate this 😂
And then the pharmaceutical companies spike up the prices and the the actual patients suffer massively.
So...Saks. Not sure I buy it for this channel, particularly as the clothing rentals got a "and this shirt is..." Pay the bills, of course, buut...