Perhaps we should look back into Chessfiends or maybe Thought Ruler? Thought Ruler could recover our LP and spend it at the same time, and Chessfiends also have more LP costs. Also, may I suggest Pentestag to combo in with Berserk Dragon in case our opponent drops a bunch of Defense Position monsters? That way Berserk Dragon can inflict pierce/damage no matter what.
Amazing stuff as usual!!! SO stoked over our silliest cards becoming some of our best effects!!! Funniest interaction here is Being able to bring an old friend of the FACE of archfiend (kinda) Ha Des, because herald of the abyss is not only REALLY solid non targeting monster removal, but also costs 1500 to send a card... which would be able to send some neat cards LIKE -Graff (BA) -Terror King and Infernal Queen - Archfiend Soldier -Abominable Unchained soul (which is already good in the deck and could trigger dark spirits as well as procs in grave) -Snipe Hunter -most unchained Maindeck monsters -labrynth Chandelierge burst rebirth could revive empress or heiress in the battle phase while triggering masterking to be able to send emperor or empress or even annihilator for its 2000 lifepoint cost -this also works off of appointer of the red lotus which is a crazy card as is in the side deck Dark deal is another solid life point paying card that costs 1k to trigger for heiress and friends (the selection exists but is far too niche) If we end up getting to synchros later on because of chaos archfiend, thought ruler archfiend pays a stack as well! Cosmic cyclose is a staple but obviously not as good as the cont trap for our deck specifically Really those are all my immediate thoughts! will get back to you Post labbing!!!
Oh yeah! Herald of the Abyss could be a great card to use, and will likely catch people off guard. It's not a bad card by any means Milling Abominable Unchained Soul sounds like a good idea. Just another body that can recycle itself Burst Rebirth sounds interesting but I'm not sure if it's worth it when we can play Archfiend's Roar or something. We don't want to run too many LP paying cards but I haven't tested it so it could be good! I agree though, Appointer is very good
These sorts of moves can make Archfiends look and feel very technical which is pretty cool! Just need more consistent ways to get to Unending Nightmare, of at least alternatives to it
Crazy engine! I don’t think there is any other targets with 1000 atk/def unfortunately… Unending nightmare is kinda meta relevant, too; which is interesting! Would love a deck profile to try and get it as consistent as possible or just a master duel deck to help combat this crazy meta!
There's Caius the Mega Monarch which is a level 8 fiend, so that's useful for Dark Spirit recycling! I'll definitely be making a deck profile on this style of gameplay so stay tuned!
Great video! interesting interactions as well. Before knowing of them (in particular the one with staff of despair-unending nightmare for the 1k cost) , the card I kept in rotation (as per the maintenance cost of Masterking Archfiend) was Loris, Lady of Lament, which is a great one off in the Labrynth build. With the 1k cost you could circle Malice, but she ain't as good as Loris. As per the LP issue and a defenssive option I like using Number 49: Fortune Tune, it recovers 500 LP during your standby phase, and it's effect triggers Heiress, Rhino Warrior and Scarm.
This vid has opened my eyes to how intense the Archfiends can go. Clearly for skilled players. Bravo Sir You think you could give me some advice foir mine? Here's my Archfiend deck. Its kind of a Synchro/Xyz build that turns my foe's cards against em or uses them for my own work. I was thinking of Adding Virtual World Hime - Nyannyan, Dark Ruler Ha Des, Invader Of Darkness, Pandemonium, Labrynth Labyrinth, Farewelcome Labrynth, Ra'ten, the Heavenly General, Eradicator Epidemic Virus, Torrential Tribute, Warning Point and/or another Tour Guide. Also I plan on attempting to get Lovely Labrynth of the Silver Castle, Ariane the Labrynth Servant, Arianna the Labrynth Servant, What should I change out? Monsters Jet Synchron Psychic Wheelder Scarm, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss Fiendish Rhino Warrior Dark Spirit of Banishment Dark Spirit of Malice Tour Guide From The Underworld Archfiend Heiress x3 Archfiend Commander x3 Destrudo The Lost Dragon's Fission Dinowrestler Pankratops Chaos Hunter Labrynth Archfiend Archfiend Empress Archfiend Emperor, the First Lord of Horror x2 Abominable Unchained Soul Magic Void Apocalypse Archfiend Palabyrinth Falling Down x2 Allure of Darkness x3 Monster Reborn Change Of Heart Reasoning Foolish Burial Trap Skill Drain Solemn Strike x2 Archfiend's Ghastly Glitch Storming Mirror Force Compulsory Evacuation Device Infinite Impermanence Crackdown Extra Dharc the Dark Charmer, Gloomy Cherubini, Ebon Angel of the Burning Abyss Knightmare Phoenix Knightmare Unicorn Borrelend Dragon D/D/D Wave High King Caesar Number 22: Zombiestein Armades, Keeper of Boundaries Virtual World Beast - Jiujiu Infernity Doom Archfiend Cyberse Quantum Dragon Chaos Ruler, the Chaotic Magical Dragon Virtual World Kyubi - Shenshen Baronne de Fleur Star Eater
Now if only there was a way to easily get to That Six for Masterking. What do you think about running Trance Archfiend instead of the Plunder Patroll monster? This way even if you summon it from Masterking, you can discard Heiress, any fiend bricks, or even the Dark Spirit pairs
There is! You can use Lord of the Heavenly Prison or that new Pharaonic Advent card. I think that's what it's called anyway. It searches continuous traps! Trance Archfiend is another good option, yes. You really want to just pick the best possible 500 target for your deck. Trance has the benefit of being an actual Archfiend, and can recycle banished cards which is very good. I only picked Plunder because I can at least draw off it, and if it gets summoned then I can go into Plunder extra deck monsters! Infernoid Decatron is another one to consider. Level 1 tuner and we already run Void Apocalypse
@@TheArchfiendGuy but wouldnt you only get 1 turn of use out of searching That Six with Lord of the Heavenly Prison? Didnt know about Pharaonic Advent. Thats pretty good since it can special summon itself. It does lock you from other special summons, so its more a MP2 set up. Still have to hard draw both I didnt think of that Plunder Patroll interaction. You can dig for a card from either Bluebeard or summoning Blackbeard but you cant use the ships effects tho.
Eh, it's cool but clunky. I feel like half the time I want cards going back into the deck anyway. I can see That Six being great for OTK builds though. Mill an Empress, then revive her
Hopefully there's some way to recover LP, otherwise this rotation isn't that sustainable. Also, should we be running Pandemonium or Palabyrinth with something like this?
Yeah you can get pretty low I suppose! There's a few things you can do to recover I guess but you don't want to put too much recovery in otherwise the deck gets a bit diluted and bricky. But Thought Ruler Archfiend can recover LP, and (hilariously) so can Salamangreat Sanctuary. Pandemonium can be good for saving some LP, but I prefer Palabyrinth right now
I almost understood nothing, this is way to big brain for me. 😀 Just bought my Labrynth cards and some more stuff and will carry my Archfiend deck which I got thanks to you, soon to my locals for the very first time. Am incredibly nervous and excited but I think I can do it. I feel it. I'm proud to represent the Archfiend community in germany and I'm so glad I found your channel back then. Only thing I really still have to learn how the chain block with the Archfiend Master works. The last time you explained it to me, I think I got it but it's a bit of time ago. Also, I wanna say that I like the colour of your hair so much. Its beautiful and vibrant looking. ☺️
In a nutshell, pay 1000 LP to send Archfiend Heiress for a search, or something like Scarm to banish opponent's monsters. With Archfiend's Staff of Despair, you have an equip spell that recycles itself so you can pop it multiple times. The main recycle loop is with Tour Bus of the Underworld (send any monster back into the deck and search it back out with Heiress). Also, good luck! The deck is quite fun but just keep in mind that the support is so wild right now. It doesn't have the firepower that most modern decks have, but the Dark Spirit loop can hold its own. Dark Spirit of Banishment is definitely a card that people don't expect! With chain blocking, the idea is to just activate Masterking Archfiend last in the chain so that the opponent can only respond to it rather than anything else. Ha! Thank you very much, you're too kind :)
@@TheArchfiendGuy You're welcome. ☺️ So one is actually abusing the lack of once per turns? This loop of course requires to pull into the Spelldestruction which is why I thought it might not be toooo good. And with the chain blocking basicly works because I have chain priority? But how? It's spell speed 2, isn't it? Sure in my own turn, I have priority but not in opponents turn right? 🤔 Thank you as well. As for the fire power, I actually think it has lots of that. Just gotta use your ammunition right. When I tested it in Edo Pro, I had some real exciting duels. Only thing I gotta say can be a bit quirky, is going second. I mean, it really has not many fast cards for that and its obviously a trap trix like "Set-Up many Trapcards" deck. But even when going second, it almost always worked out well to just then set up some traps and give your opponent the turn again. Maybe I'm biased (because next to Destiny Heroes, Labrynth is my absolute most loved deck ever since it got announced) but I really think it truly can put Archfiends to a 11/10. Sure, meta is rude but the deck even goes easily against things like Imperm. I'll definetely give my best. 🥰💙
Yes exactly! Tour Bus is a mandatory non once per turn effect, so you can always mill that for GY influencing. You're right though, it does rely on hard drawing backrow removal, but there's other ways around it. Archfiend Commander can pop Staff of Despair, same with cards like Archfiend Glitch in a pinch. This just means we get the single mill off Masterking rather than two, but that's still good. For the chain blocking stuff, the official term is SEGOC (simultaneous effects go on chain). Cards can't activate at the same time, they have to go on chain, so if Heiress wants to trigger in GY at the same time as Masterking, regardless of who's turn it is, you have to put them on a chain, but you get to choose the order. So you always go chain link 1 Heiress, chain link 2 Masterking. Chains happen in reverse, so Masterking's effect will resolve, then Heiress' effect will resolve. I think you're right about the ammunition thing. We just need to survive past the first turn! Lots of traps help with that, especially floodgates but I know that's controversial territory!
I dont think its this link time to shine yet,i feel like konami knows how much fiends like grave and mostly paying life are 1000 or 500 so when they did this mons they wanted to be careful so we might not have insane targets till konami wants,but i think is a potentially insane card,i like with garbage lord or trying with punks
The current 500 targets are pretty bad. Ryu Kishin might be something since it fulfills both targets and can be summoned off Unexpected Dai But yeah, excited to see if we get interesting targets in the future!
Well the Chaos stuff is very new so we don't know yet how useful they'll be, but from initial testing it's refreshing at least What did both of your variants look like?
@@TheArchfiendGuy The first was a gimmicky hand destruction deck using DD Degsignator, Mind Crush, and exchange. I realized it would have worked better as a Lament/Labrinth deck, but it did allow me to easily banish my monsters. The second was a Lv 4 deck that used Exchange to give Terrorking to my opponent. It wasnt consistent. I am going back to a Lv 8 build with some dangers, might just buy Prohibition cause theres synergy with Necrofear. Also I pulled the pink servant, hooray.
Eldlich has remained meta relevant for some time so I don't blame you! I really like the deck, and it is similar to Archfiends in the sense that it relies on the one boss monster to do the job
What targets for Masterking do you think we should be exploring?
9 minute old comment on a 30 sec old video. Nice.
👀 You saw nothing! XD
Dark tinker?
Perhaps we should look back into Chessfiends or maybe Thought Ruler? Thought Ruler could recover our LP and spend it at the same time, and Chessfiends also have more LP costs. Also, may I suggest Pentestag to combo in with Berserk Dragon in case our opponent drops a bunch of Defense Position monsters? That way Berserk Dragon can inflict pierce/damage no matter what.
A potential Glifer loop maybe ?
Great video, looking forward to seeing a new deck profile from you. I’m fairly new to Archfiends and I’m looking forward to learning more
A deck profile is definitely on its way! A few actually
Amazing stuff as usual!!! SO stoked over our silliest cards becoming some of our best effects!!!
Funniest interaction here is Being able to bring an old friend of the FACE of archfiend (kinda) Ha Des, because herald of the abyss is not only REALLY solid non targeting monster removal, but also costs 1500 to send a card... which would be able to send some neat cards LIKE
-Graff (BA)
-Terror King and Infernal Queen
- Archfiend Soldier
-Abominable Unchained soul (which is already good in the deck and could trigger dark spirits as well as procs in grave)
-Snipe Hunter
-most unchained Maindeck monsters
-labrynth Chandelierge
burst rebirth could revive empress or heiress in the battle phase while triggering masterking to be able to send emperor or empress or even annihilator for its 2000 lifepoint cost
-this also works off of appointer of the red lotus which is a crazy card as is in the side deck
Dark deal is another solid life point paying card that costs 1k to trigger for heiress and friends
(the selection exists but is far too niche)
If we end up getting to synchros later on because of chaos archfiend, thought ruler archfiend pays a stack as well!
Cosmic cyclose is a staple but obviously not as good as the cont trap for our deck specifically
Really those are all my immediate thoughts! will get back to you Post labbing!!!
Oh yeah! Herald of the Abyss could be a great card to use, and will likely catch people off guard. It's not a bad card by any means
Milling Abominable Unchained Soul sounds like a good idea. Just another body that can recycle itself
Burst Rebirth sounds interesting but I'm not sure if it's worth it when we can play Archfiend's Roar or something. We don't want to run too many LP paying cards but I haven't tested it so it could be good!
I agree though, Appointer is very good
This is so cool! I never looked in depth with Archfiends but this guide really showed the power of Masterking and life point payment cards
These sorts of moves can make Archfiends look and feel very technical which is pretty cool! Just need more consistent ways to get to Unending Nightmare, of at least alternatives to it
Crazy engine! I don’t think there is any other targets with 1000 atk/def unfortunately… Unending nightmare is kinda meta relevant, too; which is interesting! Would love a deck profile to try and get it as consistent as possible or just a master duel deck to help combat this crazy meta!
There's Caius the Mega Monarch which is a level 8 fiend, so that's useful for Dark Spirit recycling! I'll definitely be making a deck profile on this style of gameplay so stay tuned!
This is a really cool way to utilise a card that I imagine many thought would never really be used at all!
Thanks! And exactly, we're discovering more ways to play Archfiends by the day!
That first combo is spicy 🤌🏼
You're a genius. Love your content. I've bought a lot of cards thanks to your videos haha.
XD so long as you're having fun! Thank you very much for the kind words :)
Absolutely, thank you for making my favorite archetype playable.
No worries! Only a matter of time before we find the secret sauce to breaking this archetype wide open
great video thank you
You're welcome!
Great video! interesting interactions as well. Before knowing of them (in particular the one with staff of despair-unending nightmare for the 1k cost) , the card I kept in rotation (as per the maintenance cost of Masterking Archfiend) was Loris, Lady of Lament, which is a great one off in the Labrynth build. With the 1k cost you could circle Malice, but she ain't as good as Loris.
As per the LP issue and a defenssive option I like using Number 49: Fortune Tune, it recovers 500 LP during your standby phase, and it's effect triggers Heiress, Rhino Warrior and Scarm.
A lair of darkness archfiend deck would be so cool imo.
This vid has opened my eyes to how intense the Archfiends can go. Clearly for skilled players. Bravo Sir
You think you could give me some advice foir mine?
Here's my Archfiend deck.
Its kind of a Synchro/Xyz build that turns my foe's cards against em or uses them for my own work.
I was thinking of Adding Virtual World Hime - Nyannyan, Dark Ruler Ha Des, Invader Of Darkness, Pandemonium, Labrynth Labyrinth, Farewelcome Labrynth, Ra'ten, the Heavenly General, Eradicator Epidemic Virus, Torrential Tribute, Warning Point and/or another Tour Guide.
Also I plan on attempting to get Lovely Labrynth of the Silver Castle, Ariane the Labrynth Servant, Arianna the Labrynth Servant,
What should I change out?
Monsters
Jet Synchron
Psychic Wheelder
Scarm, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss
Fiendish Rhino Warrior
Dark Spirit of Banishment
Dark Spirit of Malice
Tour Guide From The Underworld
Archfiend Heiress x3
Archfiend Commander x3
Destrudo The Lost Dragon's Fission
Dinowrestler Pankratops
Chaos Hunter
Labrynth Archfiend
Archfiend Empress
Archfiend Emperor, the First Lord of Horror x2
Abominable Unchained Soul
Magic
Void Apocalypse
Archfiend Palabyrinth
Falling Down x2
Allure of Darkness x3
Monster Reborn
Change Of Heart
Reasoning
Foolish Burial
Trap
Skill Drain
Solemn Strike x2
Archfiend's Ghastly Glitch
Storming Mirror Force
Compulsory Evacuation Device
Infinite Impermanence
Crackdown
Extra
Dharc the Dark Charmer, Gloomy
Cherubini, Ebon Angel of the Burning Abyss
Knightmare Phoenix
Knightmare Unicorn
Borrelend Dragon
D/D/D Wave High King Caesar
Number 22: Zombiestein
Armades, Keeper of Boundaries
Virtual World Beast - Jiujiu
Infernity Doom Archfiend
Cyberse Quantum Dragon
Chaos Ruler, the Chaotic Magical Dragon
Virtual World Kyubi - Shenshen
Baronne de Fleur
Star Eater
Yep MasterKing is underrated, great seeing you use him now lol
Now if only there was a way to easily get to That Six for Masterking.
What do you think about running Trance Archfiend instead of the Plunder Patroll monster? This way even if you summon it from Masterking, you can discard Heiress, any fiend bricks, or even the Dark Spirit pairs
There is! You can use Lord of the Heavenly Prison or that new Pharaonic Advent card. I think that's what it's called anyway. It searches continuous traps!
Trance Archfiend is another good option, yes. You really want to just pick the best possible 500 target for your deck. Trance has the benefit of being an actual Archfiend, and can recycle banished cards which is very good. I only picked Plunder because I can at least draw off it, and if it gets summoned then I can go into Plunder extra deck monsters!
Infernoid Decatron is another one to consider. Level 1 tuner and we already run Void Apocalypse
@@TheArchfiendGuy but wouldnt you only get 1 turn of use out of searching That Six with Lord of the Heavenly Prison? Didnt know about Pharaonic Advent. Thats pretty good since it can special summon itself. It does lock you from other special summons, so its more a MP2 set up. Still have to hard draw both
I didnt think of that Plunder Patroll interaction. You can dig for a card from either Bluebeard or summoning Blackbeard but you cant use the ships effects tho.
Masterking and imprisoned queen have been redeemed 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Our hope, is restored!
¿Por que Konami no ha sacado soporte directo a archfiend?
This has me wishing that falling down had a higher LP cost 😂
Be careful what you wish for! XD
What about running That 6 for Masterking?
Eh, it's cool but clunky. I feel like half the time I want cards going back into the deck anyway. I can see That Six being great for OTK builds though. Mill an Empress, then revive her
Hopefully there's some way to recover LP, otherwise this rotation isn't that sustainable. Also, should we be running Pandemonium or Palabyrinth with something like this?
Yeah you can get pretty low I suppose! There's a few things you can do to recover I guess but you don't want to put too much recovery in otherwise the deck gets a bit diluted and bricky. But Thought Ruler Archfiend can recover LP, and (hilariously) so can Salamangreat Sanctuary. Pandemonium can be good for saving some LP, but I prefer Palabyrinth right now
I almost understood nothing, this is way to big brain for me. 😀
Just bought my Labrynth cards and some more stuff and will carry my Archfiend deck which I got thanks to you, soon to my locals for the very first time. Am incredibly nervous and excited but I think I can do it. I feel it. I'm proud to represent the Archfiend community in germany and I'm so glad I found your channel back then. Only thing I really still have to learn how the chain block with the Archfiend Master works. The last time you explained it to me, I think I got it but it's a bit of time ago.
Also, I wanna say that I like the colour of your hair so much. Its beautiful and vibrant looking. ☺️
In a nutshell, pay 1000 LP to send Archfiend Heiress for a search, or something like Scarm to banish opponent's monsters. With Archfiend's Staff of Despair, you have an equip spell that recycles itself so you can pop it multiple times. The main recycle loop is with Tour Bus of the Underworld (send any monster back into the deck and search it back out with Heiress).
Also, good luck! The deck is quite fun but just keep in mind that the support is so wild right now. It doesn't have the firepower that most modern decks have, but the Dark Spirit loop can hold its own. Dark Spirit of Banishment is definitely a card that people don't expect! With chain blocking, the idea is to just activate Masterking Archfiend last in the chain so that the opponent can only respond to it rather than anything else.
Ha! Thank you very much, you're too kind :)
@@TheArchfiendGuy You're welcome. ☺️
So one is actually abusing the lack of once per turns? This loop of course requires to pull into the Spelldestruction which is why I thought it might not be toooo good.
And with the chain blocking basicly works because I have chain priority? But how? It's spell speed 2, isn't it? Sure in my own turn, I have priority but not in opponents turn right? 🤔
Thank you as well. As for the fire power, I actually think it has lots of that. Just gotta use your ammunition right. When I tested it in Edo Pro, I had some real exciting duels. Only thing I gotta say can be a bit quirky, is going second. I mean, it really has not many fast cards for that and its obviously a trap trix like "Set-Up many Trapcards" deck. But even when going second, it almost always worked out well to just then set up some traps and give your opponent the turn again. Maybe I'm biased (because next to Destiny Heroes, Labrynth is my absolute most loved deck ever since it got announced) but I really think it truly can put Archfiends to a 11/10. Sure, meta is rude but the deck even goes easily against things like Imperm. I'll definetely give my best. 🥰💙
Yes exactly! Tour Bus is a mandatory non once per turn effect, so you can always mill that for GY influencing. You're right though, it does rely on hard drawing backrow removal, but there's other ways around it. Archfiend Commander can pop Staff of Despair, same with cards like Archfiend Glitch in a pinch. This just means we get the single mill off Masterking rather than two, but that's still good.
For the chain blocking stuff, the official term is SEGOC (simultaneous effects go on chain). Cards can't activate at the same time, they have to go on chain, so if Heiress wants to trigger in GY at the same time as Masterking, regardless of who's turn it is, you have to put them on a chain, but you get to choose the order. So you always go chain link 1 Heiress, chain link 2 Masterking. Chains happen in reverse, so Masterking's effect will resolve, then Heiress' effect will resolve.
I think you're right about the ammunition thing. We just need to survive past the first turn! Lots of traps help with that, especially floodgates but I know that's controversial territory!
I dont think its this link time to shine yet,i feel like konami knows how much fiends like grave and mostly paying life are 1000 or 500 so when they did this mons they wanted to be careful so we might not have insane targets till konami wants,but i think is a potentially insane card,i like with garbage lord or trying with punks
The current 500 targets are pretty bad. Ryu Kishin might be something since it fulfills both targets and can be summoned off Unexpected Dai
But yeah, excited to see if we get interesting targets in the future!
Might scrap my Archfiends until the new Chaos cards come out. Tried a meme lv 8 version, then a chess lockdown, neither worked and im conflicted.
Well the Chaos stuff is very new so we don't know yet how useful they'll be, but from initial testing it's refreshing at least
What did both of your variants look like?
@@TheArchfiendGuy The first was a gimmicky hand destruction deck using DD Degsignator, Mind Crush, and exchange. I realized it would have worked better as a Lament/Labrinth deck, but it did allow me to easily banish my monsters. The second was a Lv 4 deck that used Exchange to give Terrorking to my opponent. It wasnt consistent. I am going back to a Lv 8 build with some dangers, might just buy Prohibition cause theres synergy with Necrofear. Also I pulled the pink servant, hooray.
You should check out chaos archfiend it might be a nice addition to the deck.
Chaos Archfiend has such amazing artwork! I reckon it will indeed be a great addition to the deck!
@@TheArchfiendGuy true and it effect to attack all monster and banish instead of sending to graveyard could steal games lol
Yes it could! I always loved that about Berserk Dragon, and now we have a banishing version of that, with a monster than cranks its attack up to 4500!
Could replace Berserk Dragon
@@TheArchfiendGuy imagine equipping that with the new Archfiend equip spell
Hey, I sold my soul to maining floodgate eldlich trap :(. Golden zombie? close enough to archfiends??? um btw that masterking combo is ridiculous
Eldlich has remained meta relevant for some time so I don't blame you! I really like the deck, and it is similar to Archfiends in the sense that it relies on the one boss monster to do the job
U ever gunna add me back on disc? Im the mikanko player u talked to on edo like a week back
Yes! Sorry XD I forget that I need to check message requests