Plug & charge won't work on AC chargers until/if both charger and car support ISO15118, which is likely to be quite some time away, and likely never for many AC chargers as it adds cost.
Love efixx - glad you've covered this as a topic. My experience with this is that at least one of the major chargepoint manufacturers requires a payment to connect their charger to their app in the first instance even after the initial investment in the hardware - I got round this using OCPP but they did not make it easy at all, and it required extra hardware to get the connectivity. The chargers were installed by a developer to discharge their responsibility for a new development, and on the face of it they had - but if on handover the customer couldn't come up and plug in, there is an open question around whether this was even accomplished.
To be fair: OCPP has some hard issues. Many decisions in the protocol lead to the bad downtimes rates of chargers we have today. The worst part is the primitive monitoring of chargers. CPO navigates you to broken chargers they know of. And they are unable to restart them automatically. With the resilience of CPO to upgrade to OCPP 2.x we now have the worst state of public non-Tesla charging infrastructure since introduction. Absolute nightmare!
OCPP is a great idea, but when there's connectivity issues the charger manufacturer and 3rd party App company just point the finger at each other. You end up stuck in the middle, In our case it's never worked and its been over 4 months.
Is Autel Config App working? How can I make an account? I don't see any button to make one on the app page. I'd like to put the charger on our network for testing.
The connection to the OCPP service was painful to watch.. whats the point of a standard when it makes you jump through so many hoops? There was like at least 5+ steps that was needed to get the app up and running on the charger.. ouch.. who is designing the UI/UX of this standard?
Smart technology? On Tuesday We had a new smart boiler and smart wireless programmable timer/room stat , last night we had to get an engineer out as it packed up now waiting for a new part for the boiler and a new wireless programmable timer / room stat . Modern technology doesn’t work.
Totally agree. I’m not a heating engineer but a few days ago a customer asked me how to set the time clock on his new boiler. I asked him for the instructions. He pulled out the instructions for his old boiler that had just been replaced. Turns out his old boiler was 67 years old . Maybe not the most economical but it lasted all that time .
I´m from latin america but this kind of solution aren´t aplicable here and they are needed many peopla had cars and the buildings grid´s have no technical capacity, I don´t have a OCPP provider
Lads and lasses, are you watching the transport ship fire? The source of the fire is not the point, it is the thermal runaway of the EV batteries in the compartments caught in the heat that makes it just a waiting game as there is no safety envelope able to deal with the exothermic reaction. There are enough reports of e-scooter fires and while an EV fire is a low probability of itself it is a high impact event. We need to seriously think about the siting of battery storage, of domestic charge points or in underground car parks. I know you are considering the electromechanical aspects of installations but you should make yourselves conversant with the risks, the least you can do is add a rider that your advice is only current at the date of the production and you are not liable for the interpretation in practice. Under the bed is probably not a good idea.
EV Growing popularity? If we go with national news reports most people are not switching to EV . Alexis Conrran showed in a recent documentary eight out of every ten public charge points don’t work properly something to do with the software that doesn’t accept or recognise credit/ debit card payments secondly most people can’t have an EV charge point , such as those who live in terrest houses and blocks of flats. As good and interesting this video is sorry but your flogging a dead horse. Maybe in 20or30 years time we might have the infrastructure that works for everyone to have EVs . At the moment the government are not interested they are more interested in housing migrants on barges or sending them to Rwanda .
Thanks Sean - There may be a few blips along the away but the number of EV's on the road is growing week on week. My personal experience of EV charging, after 5 years, doesn't match what Alexis experienced. The market continues to innovate providing solutions to reduce barriers to adoption. The current OZEV grants support the installation of EV chargers via community charging hubs for residents of flats and terraced housing. OCPP is a key part of making the chargihg process simpler.
@@efixx thank you I was only going by what I have been hearing on the news BBC and sky news . In know way am I saying I’m right . Also all the charge point that Alexis showed it to be working properly were I all in London it was something to with software not accepting credit card payments.
Great video!! Good explanation. And that is coming from one of the guys that wrote OCPP 1.6 and 2.0.1!!
Plug & charge won't work on AC chargers until/if both charger and car support ISO15118, which is likely to be quite some time away, and likely never for many AC chargers as it adds cost.
It’s available on the Zaptec Pro which we’ve previously reviewed.zaptec.com/en-uk/charging-station-zaptec-pro/
@@efixx And how many cars does it work with ?
@@mikeselectricstuffnot a lot
@@mikeselectricstuff BMW, Ford, Mercedes, Porsche, VW Group and implementing plug and charge.
can this be retrofitted to older EV cars?
Love efixx - glad you've covered this as a topic.
My experience with this is that at least one of the major chargepoint manufacturers requires a payment to connect their charger to their app in the first instance even after the initial investment in the hardware - I got round this using OCPP but they did not make it easy at all, and it required extra hardware to get the connectivity.
The chargers were installed by a developer to discharge their responsibility for a new development, and on the face of it they had - but if on handover the customer couldn't come up and plug in, there is an open question around whether this was even accomplished.
Thanks for the insight 👍
have you tried the ocean platform of etrel chargers?
To be fair: OCPP has some hard issues. Many decisions in the protocol lead to the bad downtimes rates of chargers we have today.
The worst part is the primitive monitoring of chargers.
CPO navigates you to broken chargers they know of. And they are unable to restart them automatically.
With the resilience of CPO to upgrade to OCPP 2.x we now have the worst state of public non-Tesla charging infrastructure since introduction.
Absolute nightmare!
Asking for a friend. How others CSMS could appear in the list like monta and others?
1:36 I swear Gordon said OCCP! Whoops! That's one for the Efixx Outtakes Reel! 😂
Try saying to ten times in row - it's a tongue twister!
OCPP is a great idea, but when there's connectivity issues the charger manufacturer and 3rd party App company just point the finger at each other. You end up stuck in the middle, In our case it's never worked and its been over 4 months.
Which charger and OCPP provider are you using?
Is Autel Config App working? How can I make an account? I don't see any button to make one on the app page. I'd like to put the charger on our network for testing.
The connection to the OCPP service was painful to watch.. whats the point of a standard when it makes you jump through so many hoops? There was like at least 5+ steps that was needed to get the app up and running on the charger.. ouch.. who is designing the UI/UX of this standard?
Smart technology? On Tuesday We had a new smart boiler and smart wireless programmable timer/room stat , last night we had to get an engineer out as it packed up now waiting for a new part for the boiler and a new wireless programmable timer / room stat . Modern technology doesn’t work.
I am glad I am old my petrol car will outlive me, and you can stick these electric cars where the sun don't shine.
Totally agree. I’m not a heating engineer but a few days ago a customer asked me how to set the time clock on his new boiler. I asked him for the instructions. He pulled out the instructions for his old boiler that had just been replaced. Turns out his old boiler was 67 years old . Maybe not the most economical but it lasted all that time .
Get down with OCPP. Yeah you know me. I am sure that was the lyrics to the song.
I´m from latin america but this kind of solution aren´t aplicable here and they are needed many peopla had cars and the buildings grid´s have no technical capacity, I don´t have a OCPP provider
What a lot of hassle. App this app that and in a couple years it will be obsolete or get damaged or just stop working.
That’s the benefit of OCPP you can leap to another platform.
Brian Prairie
Lads and lasses, are you watching the transport ship fire? The source of the fire is not the point, it is the thermal runaway of the EV batteries in the compartments caught in the heat that makes it just a waiting game as there is no safety envelope able to deal with the exothermic reaction. There are enough reports of e-scooter fires and while an EV fire is a low probability of itself it is a high impact event. We need to seriously think about the siting of battery storage, of domestic charge points or in underground car parks. I know you are considering the electromechanical aspects of installations but you should make yourselves conversant with the risks, the least you can do is add a rider that your advice is only current at the date of the production and you are not liable for the interpretation in practice. Under the bed is probably not a good idea.
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EV Growing popularity?
If we go with national news reports most people are not switching to EV . Alexis Conrran showed in a recent documentary eight out of every ten public charge points don’t work properly something to do with the software that doesn’t accept or recognise credit/ debit card payments secondly most people can’t have an EV charge point , such as those who live in terrest houses and blocks of flats. As good and interesting this video is sorry but your flogging a dead horse. Maybe in 20or30 years time we might have the infrastructure that works for everyone to have EVs . At the moment the government are not interested they are more interested in housing migrants on barges or sending them to Rwanda .
Thanks Sean - There may be a few blips along the away but the number of EV's on the road is growing week on week. My personal experience of EV charging, after 5 years, doesn't match what Alexis experienced. The market continues to innovate providing solutions to reduce barriers to adoption. The current OZEV grants support the installation of EV chargers via community charging hubs for residents of flats and terraced housing. OCPP is a key part of making the chargihg process simpler.
@@efixx thank you I was only going by what I have been hearing on the news BBC and sky news . In know way am I saying I’m right . Also all the charge point that Alexis showed it to be working properly were I all in London it was something to with software not accepting credit card payments.
Microsoft Windows is godawful.