your timeline is in 24fps, in resolve playbacks according to your timeline FPS not the actual video's FPS, if want 60 fps playback you have to create 60 fps timeline, you can also have multiple timeline at same time, also if you want resolve to show frame drop there is a option > show all frames in that viewer window.✌
What I came to say but..... In his settings he was showing for 6k red raw, it's right in front of him on the settings. He had it at 24fps playback and timeline
@@WayneWatson1 yes, i also noticed he changed actual project resolution to playback at half res, it is also there in playback option, i think he uses premire to edit and resolve color page to grade may be.
For a really fair test you have to set native parameters in DaVinci for each clip. When creating a new timeline, uncheck "Use Project Settings" and manually set the resolution and framerate according to the source. Noise reduction is the Achilles heel of any graphics card, it's not a deal breaker, and besides, if Premiere doesn't have it, I'd pick some common effect like Glow, or motion blur, or Camera Lens Blur, which both programs have. Anyway, keep up the good work, I love your tests:)
This is why I switched a couple of years ago to DaVinci resolve. They do programming right and I've had a much better experience in editing videos. They just do a better job with the hardware usage. For the cost Adobe charges, you would think they would get their act together but....I just got tired of the bugs and hardware issues with PP
Yep. Resolve is both better and more affordable. The other thing I really like about resolve is that it can import MKV files which is the default file created by OBS which is a program lots of people use to record their screen. Being able to work with the MKV file directly is much better than remuxing it into an MP4.
@5:30 When you create a new project, lets say we want 4k 60fps timeline and 4k 60 fps playback, go to project settings>master settings: select the following ==>Timeline resolution(4k)>Timeline Frame Rate(60)>Playback frame rate(60). Then on the same project settings, go to "Video Monitoring" tab>Video Format==>UHD 2160p 60 This should set our timeline to 4k60 and video playback to 4k60 when viewing/scrubbing.
I'm one of the ones that requested a video like this, so big thanks for making it. These types of in depth videos on how things actually perform in resolve are super useful. Thanks again and keep up the great work 👍👍👍
right click the timeline, timeline settings, uncheck USE PROJECT SETTINGS, put in the framerates you want. You cna also quickly disable nodes by clicking on their number
Nice video- would be interesting to see the 7950x on eco mode with a Nivdia GPU. Also Zen 4 are very sensitive to ram timings- I've seen performance increase between 7-14% using low latency 6000 CL30 memory.
Can you please do the same tests using an Intel CPU? That would be very helpful for me. Thanks and I really love your videos as they have helped me build great video editing system that I use on a daily basis.
As a hobby photo and video editor , I've never used Adobe software. My preferred video editor was Pinnacle, later Avid Liquid Edition. After it became obsolete, I use Editshare Lightworks and occasionally Davinci Resolve.
This is basically a useless test, as you're playing non 24 FPS videos on a 24 FPS time line. To test the smoothness of 60 FPS video, you must create a new project or a new timeline,with the correct FPS. If you want to play a video with a different FPS, than the one in the project/timeline setting, you'd need to change the speed of the clip.
@theTechNotice Thank you very much for the video! Is there anyway you could test an 13700K with an ARC 770? The ARC is still a little buggy but since the release of the new drivers it has become a solid performer in Davinci - at even 8K - according to some members of the Blackmagic forums. Would love to hear your take on this at some point.
I think its the fact that its a Radeon GPU that kinda bottlenecks the Ryzen 9. Of course Intel will be definitely better for video editing due to the decoders on the UHD 770, however I feel that the Ryzen 9 7950x and an NVIDIA GPU might be quite a bit better than the RX 7900 XTX. Would be interested to see you test that combo!
Why are pro's worried about decoders? Most pro's have an ingest server where the source video is transcoded to create proxy files in either PRORES or DNXHR, same ingest server will also convert the final output (immediate output is usually either PRORES or DNXHR as well) for consumer consumption preferably using X264 or X265 for the best quality / size (software encoding). The hardware encoders that comes with the video cards are trash compared to what X264 or X265 can produce. Honestly, it's BS editing video using source clips in H264 or H265 (consumer delivery codecs) - proxied clips using PRORES or DNXHR is just so much smoother / scrubbing / timeline editing. Additionally, a lot of pro's use Apple Equipment as well so Intel \AMD and NVIDIA are not relevant. Resolve 18 eve comes with a "PROXY GENERATOR" standalone app to make this easy. And supports "multiple editors" in the same project (multiple computers) by creating the project in PostgreSQL server ( which can also be running on the ingest server ). Simplifies backing up as well. His workflow needs to change. Linus Tech Tips has an army of video editors and they use an ingest server and properly proxy the files for best editing performance. It's not expensive to build and create an ingest \ NAS server nowadays (if your work depends on it), and connect it to a client workstation using 10 gigabit ethernet with the local NVME acting as a scratch / proxy media source. Tech Notice needs a paradigm shift and stop pushing timeline editing with "CONSUMER CODECs for source clips", I don't even see the render cache being used. You don't need "4090's" on the client computer and can run with less hardware as long as you handle the input properly. Most video editing programs can't use all the the CPU cores, so it's best to have more cores in your ingest server instead to speed up proxy generation, and X264 and X265 will happily use as many as you throw at it.
@@georgedaswani9155 I am interested in knowing more about this workflow. Have a link somewhere? Most of my raw footage is either from OBS or my iPhone 13 Max. I am not a Davinci expert but learning.
@@CreateNowSleepLater The easiest way to do this for windows guys would be to setup another windows workstation to act like file server / ingest station. 1. Build windows 'INGEST' workstation (10 GB ethernet) 2. Install Davinci Resolve on it (1 studio key can be installed on two workstations ) 3. Create the following folders and share them "Media", "Projects", "Output", "Backup" and share them. 4. Copy your media to the INGEST workstation "Media" folder preferably from the INGEST workstation via whatever mechanism you need (USB3,Thunderbolt,Card Reader) 5. Have Davinci Resolve generate the "Media" proxies - for Windows, probably a good idea to use DNXHR Davinci Resolve 18 comes with a program called the "Proxy Generator" which watches a folder then automatically generates proxies but for pro use, kind of useless currently as it proxies to consumer codecs (H264,H265) unlike the full program which can create proxies in DNXHR. I'm sure they'll be updating it soon enough to support DNXHR and PRORES. 6. On your "EDITING" workstation, you can map the INGEST workstation shares as drives. 8. Create a new project on your editing PC (make sure you write the project in another shared folder 'Projects' from the INGEST workstation. 7. Add the media to your project from the Shared Folder @ ingest server 'Media' 8. On your project settings, make sure you configured your "Cache files location" to your workstations SCRATCH disk, additionally - enable the 'render cache' as well 9. Once you are done editing your timeline, export it using DNXHR as the codec to 'Output' share in your INGEST worksation (aka, intermediate output) 10. In your INGEST server, convert the [intermediate output] file to your final [consumer output] file preferably with something that uses X264, or X265. It's fairly easily to automate this using powershell scripts but you can easily use HANDBRAKE to do this. Note - you will get the best 'consumer output' files using this workflow as X264 and X265 produces much better output at the same file sizes. Additionally, you don't have to wait for Davinci Resolve to finish generating the PROXIES on the INGEST station. You can start editing on your EDITING PC while it generates the proxies and you'll notice timeline performance will get better and better. On my EDITING PC, I have an OPTANE NVME drive as a scratch disk for the 'render' cache as it has much better write endurance than TLC / QLC NVME devices. 120GB Optane NVME drives are dirt cheap right now, less than 80$. Davinci has advanced features for allowing multiple editors work to work on the same project / timeline - and that has to do with installing a PostgreSQL server on the INGEST server. No need to do that if you are a lone editor but you can easily add other workstations as well if you have help. Honestly, the price of the hardware originally being discussed is ridiculous (4090?). You can easily build two machines for the same price going this with slightly lesser / more affordable hardware (no need for a 13900K, or a 7950 on the editing PC, most video editors can't use all them cores). I say go with an 8-core on the editing workstation, and 16 on the ingest workstation (X264, X265 won't have any problems doing realtime+ encoding of your consumer output video as it's happy to use all of them). Additionally, tone down on the video cards as well. The INGEST workstation will still need a video card though to support proxy generation but that can be cheaper card - plenty to chose from. Finally, make sure you have a good BACKUP solution on your INGEST server (might even want to look at Tape Drives for backup), the workstations themselves don't really need a backup solution as they are fairly easy to rebuild - but you can back them up occasionally on INGEST workstations 'Backup' share (using the backup tool built into windows). Basically, 10GB ingest workstation, 10GB ethernet switch (5 port?), and workstations with 10GB ethernet as well.
@@georgedaswani9155 You can use render cache a lot less frequently with a powerful PC so the more powerful it is the more time you save. Also, not everyone works for a corporation, and lots of "pro's" prefer Windows, e.g. Linus Tech Tips despises Apple.
Looks like my mind might be made up. I'm not going to upgrade this round, but it looks like I'm going back to Intel when 14th Gen comes out... unless they change something and screw it up, which I don't see happening. But perhaps AMD will improve with Zen4+ or Zen5. What I would be interested to see now, is how Arc compares against the AMD, NVIDIA and the Intel iGPU offerings. I'd really be curious to see if it can make an existing AMD system competitive with an Intel system using the iGPU.
4090 with an i9 12900k is so insane with the amount of encoders and decoders I have. 8K 30fps footage and it only drops frames at the start then picks up. With my old 3080 I was using 100% of the GPU in resolve but now I’m down to 50% with the 4090. Compare that to Premiere where it doesn’t use the 4090 like it should and my 8K footage is super hit or miss. Adding an effect on top makes everything worse.
for 4k 60fps 4.2.2 10 bit, when you refer to intel systems that reproduce it well do you mean only the processor? or even intel gpu? I with an rtx 3070ti and ryzen 9 5900x have some problems with the same files as these... if I put an intel cpu with the nvidia gpu would it be better? or should i change gpu too?
I can literally hear your PC fans going nuts! On primer... I've been using DaVinci resolve for years. I really don't have any plans to go with Adobe. On that amd side, that's fine for me because... I don't go above 4k
Great test! Would like to see more of DaVinci vs PP (different hardware, different scenarios, etc). Just wondering why the Task Manager was not showing any GPU load when noise reduction was pulling > 300W 🤔.
I personally prefer using DaVinci, for once there's an actual free version and I'm digging the unified workflow where there's everything you need in the program. and if you need more power the Studio version is a one time payment and you get really powerful tools, some powered by AI, against which Adobe don't really compete (especially in denoising, color correction, synchronizing clips etc) but the software and workflow reaches another level when you add blackmagic cameras into the mix too, you can record 6K BRAW footage and 1080p "ISO" footage simulatneously, use the ISO files for the actual editing, colour grading and whatnot, then substitute them for the 6K files when you're done. The 1080p files essentially serve as a proxy so you're editing off lighter files but when it comes to the export you have the full quality of your camera
Good morning, I’d like to know if you’re going to compare the new Ryzen 9 7950 X3D with the 7950 X. I work a lot with Lightroom, DXO Pure Raw, Nik Collection, Helicon focus, Aurora HDR and also Photoshop in photo, then Davinci resolves and After Effects in video. The CG is MSI RTX 4090 gaming X trio. I am waiting for your comparison to make a choice because it seems rather tight thank you
I like this testing way a lot: real situations! Not only artificial stress tests and benchmarks. Simulating and reproducing the same we do in our houses, offices etcetera you really make the situation clearer. Okay. Now I have to rewatch the video bacause I'm not that expert and maybe there is some resolution I have never tried!
Resolve is way quicker then pp on average. Because on average pp crashes more. That is why I switched. After I switched they went subscription, making sure I will never be tempted to try pp again
Hi Tech Notice, I'm a big fan of yours and I'm an AMD fan too. Can you recommend me an amd cpu and gpu combo that is comparable to the i5 13600k and Nvidia rtx 4070 in terms of video editing.
I dunno about this Video Editing, but are you Using the RDNA 3 media Video Encoding AV1. I just want to know if this helps on performance, AMD Azor's mentioned that it will be ready in Adobe Premier on December of Last year and no idea if Davinci has this right now.
Great video. This proves that Nvidia, Intel combo os better for editing. Could you do the same video for Resolve and Premiere Pro using 13700k with 4070 Ti?
To all the resolve editors? What is it like if you don't have a huge amount of vram? I have 12 gigs. I definitely don't have 20-24. What do you think. About the numbers he was getting in this video?
Does amd's pro driver (blue) work with the 7900 series gpus like it does with the 6800/6900 gpus? Does this improve davinci and other pro app performance?
Would an AMD cpu with radeon graphics on it have the same performance "boost" that the Intel cpu with graphics have? Just wondering. I prefer AMD cpu's BUT I've always preferred Nvidia graphics cards.
Playback performance is hardly a metric for determining which software is better in editing, which tools software offers, and results with those implemented, is. And Resolve is simply much, much better in almost every way. Premiere Pro is lacking because of Adobe's refusal to invest in proper software development and the amount of problems and glitches that come with Premiere Pro is staggering.
Seriously looks like your system is not utilizing the GPU and CPU on Davinci Resolve. I'm on much older hardware and these tests runs smoothly. Could be setup or drivers. Maybe a bad version of Davinci Resolve... 18.6 is even smoother now. But when your GPU hits 5% during playback, that's a bad sign.
I edit 4k h265, 6k h265 and 4k cdng from fp camera all without proxies on 12 years old hp machine in Davinci Resolve. In premiere pro I can't even playback 1080p 24p without frame drops. What a joke. Premiere pro is the most unoptimized video editing software 😂 Edit: Yes premiere pro is utilizing gpu and cpu. I checked.
Didn't AMD advertise synergy between the iGPU and dGPU? That would sure help the use case to get an AMD card. At this point, the 7900XYX is almost as much as the 4080.
bro seriously this video is 6 months old and you still haven't removed it or added a pin comment or something after messing it up so bad? you can see above the viewer that you're stuck at 24fps cos you set it so in your settings.. that's embarrassing, just delete the video and make a new one or something..
Blackmagic added AV1 decoding support back in 2021,I think it was. Don't know if it's hardware accelerated, that shouldn't really be necessary. But encoding is only just added, and to my knowledge only for RTX cards.
@@akyhne I've got the XTX but it seems Davinci does not support AV1 hardware decoding yet. Still would like to see how the system handles AV1 decoding, as gaming clips on the latest generations of cards can be recorded in AV1.
that and they create proper optimized media, or proper proxies - on a large project, it's ridiculous to be editing using H264, H265, or Canon RAW. Some raw files / containers - 8K from RED cameras (R3D) are so much easier to edit / transcode than let's say Canon RAW (CRM). Editing a Canon RAW file without transcoding first, or creating proxy media is literally shooting yourself in the foot. I'm not sure why this step is being omitted in the videos.
I think you're confusing some things in your conclusion. You say "As you saw, when we were at the H.265 codec here, because AMD doesnt offer hardware acceleration". That's just wrong! Of course it does! Whether the software does, or a specific feature in the software does, is a completely different story! It's not up to AMD to implement this into the software, it's up to the developers of the software! This is at least your second video, that is heavily flawed. You lost me, I'm unsubscribing!
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your timeline is in 24fps, in resolve playbacks according to your timeline FPS not the actual video's FPS, if want 60 fps playback you have to create 60 fps timeline, you can also have multiple timeline at same time, also if you want resolve to show frame drop there is a option > show all frames in that viewer window.✌
What I came to say but..... In his settings he was showing for 6k red raw, it's right in front of him on the settings. He had it at 24fps playback and timeline
@@WayneWatson1 yes, i also noticed he changed actual project resolution to playback at half res, it is also there in playback option, i think he uses premire to edit and resolve color page to grade may be.
Chill dude just wanted to show AMD is better..
All his tests are flawed.
For a really fair test you have to set native parameters in DaVinci for each clip. When creating a new timeline, uncheck "Use Project Settings" and manually set the resolution and framerate according to the source.
Noise reduction is the Achilles heel of any graphics card, it's not a deal breaker, and besides, if Premiere doesn't have it, I'd pick some common effect like Glow, or motion blur, or Camera Lens Blur, which both programs have.
Anyway, keep up the good work, I love your tests:)
Your project settings are to set to 24fps under timeline / playback frame rate, hence the 24fps limit.
This is why I switched a couple of years ago to DaVinci resolve. They do programming right and I've had a much better experience in editing videos. They just do a better job with the hardware usage. For the cost Adobe charges, you would think they would get their act together but....I just got tired of the bugs and hardware issues with PP
Yep. Resolve is both better and more affordable. The other thing I really like about resolve is that it can import MKV files which is the default file created by OBS which is a program lots of people use to record their screen. Being able to work with the MKV file directly is much better than remuxing it into an MP4.
And you should not pay each month temporary downtime.
@5:30 When you create a new project, lets say we want 4k 60fps timeline and 4k 60 fps playback, go to project settings>master settings: select the following
==>Timeline resolution(4k)>Timeline Frame Rate(60)>Playback frame rate(60).
Then on the same project settings, go to "Video Monitoring" tab>Video Format==>UHD 2160p 60
This should set our timeline to 4k60 and video playback to 4k60 when viewing/scrubbing.
I'm one of the ones that requested a video like this, so big thanks for making it. These types of in depth videos on how things actually perform in resolve are super useful. Thanks again and keep up the great work 👍👍👍
Glad it was helpful!
I agree but I really wish I saw this before I bought the 7950x 🤦♂️
right click the timeline, timeline settings, uncheck USE PROJECT SETTINGS, put in the framerates you want. You cna also quickly disable nodes by clicking on their number
Use an Nvidia GPU with the AMD CPU. Should be interesting.
Nice video- would be interesting to see the 7950x on eco mode with a Nivdia GPU. Also Zen 4 are very sensitive to ram timings- I've seen performance increase between 7-14% using low latency 6000 CL30 memory.
Can you please do the same tests using an Intel CPU? That would be very helpful for me. Thanks and I really love your videos as they have helped me build great video editing system that I use on a daily basis.
Please try with the same 7950x CPU but use an Nvidia GPU instead and see if you encounter any issue in Resolve.
I am building a PC soon i am going for AMD Ryzen 7 78003DX. What is this CPU like using Davinci Resolve Running 108060fps and 4k60fps thanks
As a hobby photo and video editor , I've never used Adobe software. My preferred video editor was Pinnacle, later Avid Liquid Edition. After it became obsolete, I use Editshare Lightworks and occasionally Davinci Resolve.
This is basically a useless test, as you're playing non 24 FPS videos on a 24 FPS time line.
To test the smoothness of 60 FPS video, you must create a new project or a new timeline,with the correct FPS.
If you want to play a video with a different FPS, than the one in the project/timeline setting, you'd need to change the speed of the clip.
@theTechNotice Thank you very much for the video! Is there anyway you could test an 13700K with an ARC 770? The ARC is still a little buggy but since the release of the new drivers it has become a solid performer in Davinci - at even 8K - according to some members of the Blackmagic forums. Would love to hear your take on this at some point.
there's another channel that tested this recently. Wasn't that impressive vs the 3060 12GB, and it didn't do as good for raw
What would be interesting
This is why I love this channel and videos. Because what he says make sense!!
I wish you do same tests on the coming AMD cpus and gpus 🎉 great to do such benchmarking from creators perspective.
I think its the fact that its a Radeon GPU that kinda bottlenecks the Ryzen 9. Of course Intel will be definitely better for video editing due to the decoders on the UHD 770, however I feel that the Ryzen 9 7950x and an NVIDIA GPU might be quite a bit better than the RX 7900 XTX. Would be interested to see you test that combo!
Why are pro's worried about decoders? Most pro's have an ingest server where the source video is transcoded to create proxy files in either PRORES or DNXHR, same ingest server will also convert the final output (immediate output is usually either PRORES or DNXHR as well) for consumer consumption preferably using X264 or X265 for the best quality / size (software encoding). The hardware encoders that comes with the video cards are trash compared to what X264 or X265 can produce.
Honestly, it's BS editing video using source clips in H264 or H265 (consumer delivery codecs) - proxied clips using PRORES or DNXHR is just so much smoother / scrubbing / timeline editing. Additionally, a lot of pro's use Apple Equipment as well so Intel \AMD and NVIDIA are not relevant. Resolve 18 eve comes with a "PROXY GENERATOR" standalone app to make this easy. And supports "multiple editors" in the same project (multiple computers) by creating the project in PostgreSQL server ( which can also be running on the ingest server ). Simplifies backing up as well.
His workflow needs to change. Linus Tech Tips has an army of video editors and they use an ingest server and properly proxy the files for best editing performance. It's not expensive to build and create an ingest \ NAS server nowadays (if your work depends on it), and connect it to a client workstation using 10 gigabit ethernet with the local NVME acting as a scratch / proxy media source.
Tech Notice needs a paradigm shift and stop pushing timeline editing with "CONSUMER CODECs for source clips", I don't even see the render cache being used. You don't need "4090's" on the client computer and can run with less hardware as long as you handle the input properly. Most video editing programs can't use all the the CPU cores, so it's best to have more cores in your ingest server instead to speed up proxy generation, and X264 and X265 will happily use as many as you throw at it.
@@georgedaswani9155 I am interested in knowing more about this workflow. Have a link somewhere? Most of my raw footage is either from OBS or my iPhone 13 Max. I am not a Davinci expert but learning.
@@CreateNowSleepLater The easiest way to do this for windows guys would be to setup another windows workstation to act like file server / ingest station.
1. Build windows 'INGEST' workstation (10 GB ethernet)
2. Install Davinci Resolve on it (1 studio key can be installed on two workstations )
3. Create the following folders and share them "Media", "Projects", "Output", "Backup" and share them.
4. Copy your media to the INGEST workstation "Media" folder preferably from the INGEST workstation via whatever mechanism you need (USB3,Thunderbolt,Card Reader)
5. Have Davinci Resolve generate the "Media" proxies - for Windows, probably a good idea to use DNXHR
Davinci Resolve 18 comes with a program called the "Proxy Generator" which watches a folder then automatically generates proxies but for pro use, kind of useless currently as it proxies to consumer codecs (H264,H265) unlike the full program which can create proxies in DNXHR. I'm sure they'll be updating it soon enough to support DNXHR and PRORES.
6. On your "EDITING" workstation, you can map the INGEST workstation shares as drives.
8. Create a new project on your editing PC (make sure you write the project in another shared folder 'Projects' from the INGEST workstation.
7. Add the media to your project from the Shared Folder @ ingest server 'Media'
8. On your project settings, make sure you configured your "Cache files location" to your workstations SCRATCH disk, additionally - enable the 'render cache' as well
9. Once you are done editing your timeline, export it using DNXHR as the codec to 'Output' share in your INGEST worksation (aka, intermediate output)
10. In your INGEST server, convert the [intermediate output] file to your final [consumer output] file preferably with something that uses X264, or X265. It's fairly easily to automate this using powershell scripts but you can easily use HANDBRAKE to do this.
Note - you will get the best 'consumer output' files using this workflow as X264 and X265 produces much better output at the same file sizes. Additionally, you don't have to wait for Davinci Resolve to finish generating the PROXIES on the INGEST station. You can start editing on your EDITING PC while it generates the proxies and you'll notice timeline performance will get better and better. On my EDITING PC, I have an OPTANE NVME drive as a scratch disk for the 'render' cache as it has much better write endurance than TLC / QLC NVME devices. 120GB Optane NVME drives are dirt cheap right now, less than 80$.
Davinci has advanced features for allowing multiple editors work to work on the same project / timeline - and that has to do with installing a PostgreSQL server on the INGEST server. No need to do that if you are a lone editor but you can easily add other workstations as well if you have help.
Honestly, the price of the hardware originally being discussed is ridiculous (4090?). You can easily build two machines for the same price going this with slightly lesser / more affordable hardware (no need for a 13900K, or a 7950 on the editing PC, most video editors can't use all them cores). I say go with an 8-core on the editing workstation, and 16 on the ingest workstation (X264, X265 won't have any problems doing realtime+ encoding of your consumer output video as it's happy to use all of them). Additionally, tone down on the video cards as well. The INGEST workstation will still need a video card though to support proxy generation but that can be cheaper card - plenty to chose from.
Finally, make sure you have a good BACKUP solution on your INGEST server (might even want to look at Tape Drives for backup), the workstations themselves don't really need a backup solution as they are fairly easy to rebuild - but you can back them up occasionally on INGEST workstations 'Backup' share (using the backup tool built into windows).
Basically, 10GB ingest workstation, 10GB ethernet switch (5 port?), and workstations with 10GB ethernet as well.
@@georgedaswani9155 Thanks so much for such a detailed reply!!!
@@georgedaswani9155 You can use render cache a lot less frequently with a powerful PC so the more powerful it is the more time you save. Also, not everyone works for a corporation, and lots of "pro's" prefer Windows, e.g. Linus Tech Tips despises Apple.
Looks like my mind might be made up. I'm not going to upgrade this round, but it looks like I'm going back to Intel when 14th Gen comes out... unless they change something and screw it up, which I don't see happening. But perhaps AMD will improve with Zen4+ or Zen5. What I would be interested to see now, is how Arc compares against the AMD, NVIDIA and the Intel iGPU offerings. I'd really be curious to see if it can make an existing AMD system competitive with an Intel system using the iGPU.
4090 with an i9 12900k is so insane with the amount of encoders and decoders I have. 8K 30fps footage and it only drops frames at the start then picks up. With my old 3080 I was using 100% of the GPU in resolve but now I’m down to 50% with the 4090. Compare that to Premiere where it doesn’t use the 4090 like it should and my 8K footage is super hit or miss. Adding an effect on top makes everything worse.
you show only decoding and playback. you should also show cpu gpu uses during export.
for 4k 60fps 4.2.2 10 bit, when you refer to intel systems that reproduce it well do you mean only the processor? or even intel gpu? I with an rtx 3070ti and ryzen 9 5900x have some problems with the same files as these...
if I put an intel cpu with the nvidia gpu would it be better? or should i change gpu too?
12:11 No! Its not the same! You use the original log footage, while you had a lg correcting lut or set the file to use a CST on the clip.
I can literally hear your PC fans going nuts! On primer... I've been using DaVinci resolve for years. I really don't have any plans to go with Adobe. On that amd side, that's fine for me because... I don't go above 4k
Great test! Would like to see more of DaVinci vs PP (different hardware, different scenarios, etc).
Just wondering why the Task Manager was not showing any GPU load when noise reduction was pulling > 300W 🤔.
I personally prefer using DaVinci, for once there's an actual free version and I'm digging the unified workflow where there's everything you need in the program. and if you need more power the Studio version is a one time payment and you get really powerful tools, some powered by AI, against which Adobe don't really compete (especially in denoising, color correction, synchronizing clips etc)
but the software and workflow reaches another level when you add blackmagic cameras into the mix too, you can record 6K BRAW footage and 1080p "ISO" footage simulatneously, use the ISO files for the actual editing, colour grading and whatnot, then substitute them for the 6K files when you're done. The 1080p files essentially serve as a proxy so you're editing off lighter files but when it comes to the export you have the full quality of your camera
Good morning,
I’d like to know if you’re going to compare the new Ryzen 9 7950 X3D with the 7950 X.
I work a lot with Lightroom, DXO Pure Raw, Nik Collection, Helicon focus, Aurora HDR and also Photoshop in photo, then Davinci resolves and After Effects in video.
The CG is MSI RTX 4090 gaming X trio.
I am waiting for your comparison to make a choice because it seems rather tight
thank you
I like this testing way a lot: real situations! Not only artificial stress tests and benchmarks. Simulating and reproducing the same we do in our houses, offices etcetera you really make the situation clearer. Okay. Now I have to rewatch the video bacause I'm not that expert and maybe there is some resolution I have never tried!
Love the red devils. Beautiful cards.
I like how the table on the webcam lines up with the windows taskbar
Resolve is way quicker then pp on average. Because on average pp crashes more. That is why I switched. After I switched they went subscription, making sure I will never be tempted to try pp again
Hi Tech Notice, I'm a big fan of yours and I'm an AMD fan too. Can you recommend me an amd cpu and gpu combo that is comparable to the i5 13600k and Nvidia rtx 4070 in terms of video editing.
I dunno about this Video Editing, but are you Using the RDNA 3 media Video Encoding AV1. I just want to know if this helps on performance, AMD Azor's mentioned that it will be ready in Adobe Premier on December of Last year and no idea if Davinci has this right now.
Test the AV1 Export.
Thanks for this man
u asked for how to make timeLine fps from 24 to any frame u like ..and u never look back at the comments..they are answers u .
Great video. This proves that Nvidia, Intel combo os better for editing. Could you do the same video for Resolve and Premiere Pro using 13700k with 4070 Ti?
18:30 Premiere playback: completely stuck, Davinci: plays back. You: both show kinda the same timeline performance ;-) …
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No such channel goes deep in these specific details
Amd no channel messes up the tests as much....
why even do the test if you don't know how to set up the application?
GREAT VIDEO!!! I love it :) Yes I still think DR is better :):
To all the resolve editors? What is it like if you don't have a huge amount of vram? I have 12 gigs. I definitely don't have 20-24. What do you think. About the numbers he was getting in this video?
Just use proxies then.
Lol I commented on your short about doing this... I think to get a full pitcher you need studio to get full use out of the CPU and gpu
Does amd's pro driver (blue) work with the 7900 series gpus like it does with the 6800/6900 gpus? Does this improve davinci and other pro app performance?
Would an AMD cpu with radeon graphics on it have the same performance "boost" that the Intel cpu with graphics have? Just wondering. I prefer AMD cpu's BUT I've always preferred Nvidia graphics cards.
I'm curious on how this test will perform on a M2 mac mini.
Playback performance is hardly a metric for determining which software is better in editing, which tools software offers, and results with those implemented, is. And Resolve is simply much,
much better in almost every way. Premiere Pro is lacking because of Adobe's refusal to invest in proper software development and the amount of problems and glitches that come with
Premiere Pro is staggering.
6:57 8:10 13:14 16:11 28:27
Seriously looks like your system is not utilizing the GPU and CPU on Davinci Resolve. I'm on much older hardware and these tests runs smoothly. Could be setup or drivers. Maybe a bad version of Davinci Resolve... 18.6 is even smoother now.
But when your GPU hits 5% during playback, that's a bad sign.
please help me here...i'm a new pc for 2k gaming and editing in davinci resolve....so my question is..
7900x with 7900xt or 13700k with 4070ti?!
I edit 4k h265, 6k h265 and 4k cdng from fp camera all without proxies on 12 years old hp machine in Davinci Resolve. In premiere pro I can't even playback 1080p 24p without frame drops. What a joke. Premiere pro is the most unoptimized video editing software 😂
Edit: Yes premiere pro is utilizing gpu and cpu. I checked.
Didn't AMD advertise synergy between the iGPU and dGPU? That would sure help the use case to get an AMD card. At this point, the 7900XYX is almost as much as the 4080.
Can you do a review of Davinci vs Premiere pro from a professionals point of view?
He's not a professional...
bro seriously this video is 6 months old and you still haven't removed it or added a pin comment or something after messing it up so bad? you can see above the viewer that you're stuck at 24fps cos you set it so in your settings..
that's embarrassing, just delete the video and make a new one or something..
Could you do the same with intel???
YES, the answer to the video title is yes.
Can you do AV1 decoding on timelines? As it's relevant with the new AV1 encoders on RTX 4000 and RX 7000.
Blackmagic added AV1 decoding support back in 2021,I think it was.
Don't know if it's hardware accelerated, that shouldn't really be necessary.
But encoding is only just added, and to my knowledge only for RTX cards.
@@akyhne I've got the XTX but it seems Davinci does not support AV1 hardware decoding yet. Still would like to see how the system handles AV1 decoding, as gaming clips on the latest generations of cards can be recorded in AV1.
@@TheActualChosenOne Decoding doesn't require much power, even your smartphone can probably play back AV1.
Encoding is a different matter!
Supporta la codifica AMD AV1 in modo nativo e la codifica NVIDIA a pagamento
Can you do this test ? Same file (maybe 4k h264) time of rendering with AMD vs NVIDIA with DaVinci and Handbrake
W... Why? DaVinci vs Handbrake? How? What would be the point?
Yes, in large projects multimillion budgets davinci is used on xeons/ amd machines
that and they create proper optimized media, or proper proxies - on a large project, it's ridiculous to be editing using H264, H265, or Canon RAW.
Some raw files / containers - 8K from RED cameras (R3D) are so much easier to edit / transcode than let's say Canon RAW (CRM). Editing a Canon RAW file without transcoding first, or creating proxy media is literally shooting yourself in the foot.
I'm not sure why this step is being omitted in the videos.
FOrget AMD. Test 13700 and arc 770 !!!!!! In the words or Monty Python....Intercourse the AMD! LOVE TECH NOTICE !!!!!
Arc 770 with 13700k plays better that 8k with premier and da vinci )))))
Guy doesn't even know how to use DaVinci... This is just a commercial for Intel. I'm taking back my sub.
NR 1st node always
Well, one is by Adobe. 😉
Thanks for the video, anyway you can evaluate AMD expo 6000 ram and see if it helps for AMD CPU. @theTechNotice
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Adobe premiere is a neglected software. I wonder why adobe tries so hard to upsell their severely unoptimized softwares
Is it just me or did anyone get earr*ped by the ad?
I really hated the ad, your definitely not alone
I think you're confusing some things in your conclusion. You say "As you saw, when we were at the H.265 codec here, because AMD doesnt offer hardware acceleration". That's just wrong! Of course it does!
Whether the software does, or a specific feature in the software does, is a completely different story!
It's not up to AMD to implement this into the software, it's up to the developers of the software!
This is at least your second video, that is heavily flawed. You lost me, I'm unsubscribing!