As I understand it, cultural appropriation becomes a problem when a culture is condemned for an aspect, but then when that aspect is copied by others, its celebrated
Cultural appropriation is a leftist term used by racist SJWs to bash caucasians... telling someone what they can and cannot do based on their culture or skin color is nothing more than discrimination and racism.
@@kevinbrooks9074 while it can certainly be used that way, the proper use for the term is explained here. The use of some rather absurd and radically politically charged buzzwords in your comment seem like a protection mechanism to prevent an honest conversation about a pretty serious issue.
@@corvusclones are you trying to tell me that caucasians are not allowed to do any other than what you perceive as "white culture"? It seems like you wish to divide everyone up based on their culture.
@@kevinbrooks9074 that is very much not what I'm saying. Please dont lie about what i have said when I made it clear. Everyone is free to respectfully enjoy any culture. It only becomes appropriation when an oppressive culture adopts characteristics that it chastises other cultures for.
Your reaction to this is absolutely priceless. I also love this skit. The music, the energy and the humor. These two need to make feature-length skits on film...like making a movie about their Racist Zombie skit.
I hear what you're saying about skin color, but it's deeper than that, in the eyes of most. With most, it's about RACE and ETHNICITY, and what group you identify with, regardless of skin tone.
My favorite skit is Clortho’s Inner City School for Sorcery. That has the potential to be a full blown tv show. It certainly has more legs to stand on than half of the crap that gets greenlit these days.
The topic of cultural appropriation is way more complex than people want it to be. Like you said, the US is a cultural melting pot and expecting people to stay in their own lanes for every tiny thing is ridiculous. If you're angry because you see some White Folks have Fajitas then you need to reexamine the way you live your life. On the other hand if you're planning an Indian theme wedding complete with lehenga and bindi even though you (or your fiance) don't have an Indian heritage, then don't. Someone's cultural heritage is not a wedding theme to be used like that.
Technically, cultural appropriation involves making money off someone else, especially without giving anything back to whatever people you took whatever it is you're selling from. One of the common modern issues of cultural appropriation is that pharmaceutical companies send out scouts to rural people in Africa, South America, Southeast Asia, etc. and basically just ask them what they use as cures if people get sick. Then they take samples of whatever they tell them and go back to the lab and see what's in there. If they find anything that actually has any efficacy, they patent it and make billions off it. If the people they got it from are lucky then it's easily synthesizable and they just never see any of the money that their cultural knowledge earned the company. If they're unlucky and you actually need the plant or whatever to produce it, then the local government gets bribed and suddenly their home is now property of the pharmaceutical company, and the company doesn't want them around because it cuts into production.
What if traditional Indian weddings are better than western weddings? I acknowledge the immediate issues with appropriation, but how do we move past them?
@@navypukevomit literally just ignore people. I am Indian and I could care less because growing up in America, I have taken certain aspects from other cultures as well. People talk about what you are and aren’t allowed to do as if they are your parents. Why take them so seriously? Many of these people who complain about the themes of weddings don’t even have the emotional maturity to handle a relationship.
Not necessarily true in the Indian case. What if the two people who are being wedded are not Indians, but they are Hindus? Then they should have no problem performing a traditional Hindu wedding.
I think a better example of cultural appropriation is turning a groups culture into just a commercial market & devaluing the meaning of it bc the person appropriating it thinks it looks cool. for example indigenous ppl having ceremonial head dresses used for cheap Halloween costumes, tattoos, etc. asian language used for tattoos, culture evolves and changes and grows but sometimes it's exploitive
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of cultural appropriation, my dude. Thankfully there's a really good movie that (probably accidentally) does a fantastic job of serving as an allegory for the difference between appropriation and participation: The Nightmare Before Christmas
I think he’s trying to say that Jack was appropriating Christmas when he brought it to Halloween Town and tried to be Santa. Although I disagree with everything he said. MrLBoyd definitely understands the concepts behind cultural appropriation.
@@SparkimusPrime Firstly: Close, but no Cigar. The issue with what Jack did is both that he not only tried to be Santa, insisted that he would be a better Santa than Santa would be, but also *disallowed* Santa from participation in his own cultural heritage to do it. To bring this back to the real world, this is similar to the way in which, for example, black folk are punished for wearing their hair natural or in protective styles (by being forced to cut or change it or face exclusion, by being called dirty, or any number of other things) while white folks imitating these styles is considered fashionable or trendy. Similar things happen with vocabulary and dialect. Food. All manner of cultural things. And not just to black folks. No one should ever have a problem with others participating in their culture (swinging back to the movie, Halloweentown getting their own white Christmas is portrayed as a good thing in the end), but appropriation is not the same as participation.
There were only a couple of seasons of Dave Chapelle show, but he commonly refers to key and Peele as the spiritual successor. So essentially you are watching the later seasons of the Dave Chapelle show.
Cultural appropriation is a weird concept to me. Either you're insulting someone or you aren't, but as soon as you start dissecting every culturally tinted action a person does and try to find reasons for why it could offend someone, without even hearing the person's intentions or that culture's opinion about it, that's where you're probably going too far. All cultures can and should be celebrated by everyone.
4:42 If I don't normally like musicals but when they're done well I love them is there still something wrong with me? I'm just really picky and it usually has to be a comedy otherwise it seems out of place.
Cultural appropriation is a weird concept to me too. Hasn't that just always happened lol? I don't know how it could happen any differently especially not in America. Cultural appropriation is kinda the point. It means the melting pot is working for you and not against you.
It's just a method to inflict damage via cultural warfare- it's part of the culture war. People dont care that it makes sense only that its end-result claims to support their "culture-team."
I absolutely understand your viewpoint. And in a perfect world, that’s how it would work. But That’s the point. It’s still working against us. Dreadlocks and other Afro-centric hairstyles are still seen as “dirty” and unprofessional on black people, but put them on a Kardashian and they’re “exotic”. All of a sudden, dirty cornrows are now beautiful exotic “boxer braids”. Bantu knots are now “twisted mini buns” Rap music still catches hate for being vulgar and promoting violence and drug use, but white girls can dance to it on TikTok and make millions of dollars, no questions asked. Durags which were invented for black people to be able to train their curl patterns or to protect hairstyles while they sleep. And they’ve been associated with the “thug” or “criminal” stereotype for decades. Hell, I live in Texas. And one of the first times I went to a gun range, one of the targets had a Durag on. But now it’s become a trend to wear “Urban Hair Ties”. How many slang words have been “adopted” into general pop culture in the past 5,10, 20 years? Dance, music, language, fashion, etc. Elements of our history and culture are co-opted and made “acceptable” as long as they’re not on us. That’s why I never liked the “melting pot” analogy. It’s like we have to assimilate and give up what makes us unique so everyone can feel comfortable. I was taught to use the mosaic or quilt analogy, because it allows every part to have its own distinct elements while adding to the overall beauty that is the larger picture.
@@cgsoldier4196 Dreadlocks are not a Black or African exclusive hairstyle. Dreadlocks are like the bow and arrow as every race an culture as used them as an hairstyle since prehistory. Vikings, Slavs, Greeks, Romans Chinese, Indians, Native Americans all have dreadlocks and versions thereof as hairstyles for thousands of years.
6:45 THANK YOU, the human experience is all about exposing yourself to other cultures. We're all marching towards a culturally homogenous state, and that's great.
Every ethnic group does it except us. We should seperate and have our own economy. I live on the East coast and its extemely segregated, Just go to new york and there is a chinese section, Korean section, Ethiopian section, Italian section and so on
I think the sketch thru in a lot of stereotypes and making fun of everything that might be considered bad by some. making fun of white people touching black peoples hair and cultural appropriation. When in Society some of it is just silly to be offended.
Ouch, I might have internal problems, but my dislike of musicals is warranted. Yeah, as someone who comes from a very mixed family segregation is horrible.
Have you seen the Reefer Madness musical with Alan Cumming based on the 1930s propaganda film? Or Cannibal the Musical by/starring Trey Parker and Matt Stone? Both a awesome lol
As I understand it, cultural appropriation becomes a problem when a culture is condemned for an aspect, but then when that aspect is copied by others, its celebrated
Cultural appropriation is a leftist term used by racist SJWs to bash caucasians... telling someone what they can and cannot do based on their culture or skin color is nothing more than discrimination and racism.
@@kevinbrooks9074 while it can certainly be used that way, the proper use for the term is explained here. The use of some rather absurd and radically politically charged buzzwords in your comment seem like a protection mechanism to prevent an honest conversation about a pretty serious issue.
@@corvusclones are you trying to tell me that caucasians are not allowed to do any other than what you perceive as "white culture"? It seems like you wish to divide everyone up based on their culture.
@@kevinbrooks9074 that is very much not what I'm saying. Please dont lie about what i have said when I made it clear. Everyone is free to respectfully enjoy any culture. It only becomes appropriation when an oppressive culture adopts characteristics that it chastises other cultures for.
@@corvusclones where did I lie about what you said?
My favorite skit they ever did (and I love almost all of them, lol). Funny as hell, and the end is a hard kick in the chest.
This reminds me of another good one by them called "What happens when zombies are racists". Hilarious!
There are so many great key and peele songs, there are 3 separate compilations on RUclips if you're looking for something longer and they're all great
Your reaction to this is absolutely priceless. I also love this skit. The music, the energy and the humor. These two need to make feature-length skits on film...like making a movie about their Racist Zombie skit.
Lies again? Gold Cup Gain City Grab CDG
that laugh of yours is priceless
Negrotown does sound nice
I hear what you're saying about skin color, but it's deeper than that, in the eyes of most. With most, it's about RACE and ETHNICITY, and what group you identify with, regardless of skin tone.
@8:31 K&P got us again! Gawd damnit! Lol
I'm early, love from Germany!
Glad you enjoyed this piece of art! It is one of my favorites from them.
Bruh I swear your hesitation to laugh be making me laugh even more. You can tell you are working through the skit and it's hilarious 😂
Luther, Obama's Translator, sketches are some of my favorites.
My favorite skit is Clortho’s Inner City School for Sorcery. That has the potential to be a full blown tv show. It certainly has more legs to stand on than half of the crap that gets greenlit these days.
Speaking of musicals, Key & Peele - Les Mis is a great one!
I just watched the entire season of Schmigadoon, Keegan Michael Key and SNL's Cecily Strong in a comedy musical, and it was absolutely hilarious.
The next one you should do is Key & Peele - Mattress Shopping - Uncensored.
I cannot see what is happening, but what I am listening too is reflecting life in the U.S.
Keegan-Michael Key is in an awesome musical comedy on AppleTV+ called “Schmigadoon!”
Negraph is one of my favourite and most underrated sketches
the valets are the first characters of theirs I saw, they are also well worth seeing
You're making me want an invite to your family reunions, the food has got to be amazing
Oh man, reactions to A Black Lady Sketch Show would be fun.
Found that randomly last year, absolutely brilliant, the astronomy club too 👌👏🔥😂
@@makaveliuk86 i did not know about this and am eternally grateful you mentioned the astronomy club. i'm dyinggg
@@gillian2325glad someone else enjoyed it 😂💜 me and my mate actually started doing Ice Cube day cos of it...👀🤷♂️😂
Belly laughs...
Proceeds to say "That's not funny."
Obligatory emoji: 🤣
Have you seen One At A Time yet? It's their parody of Les Miserables
I'm getting a total Toon Town from Roger Rabbit vibes lmao, well done Jordan Peele
DYYYING😂😂😂never seen this one before 👌👏👏👏😂
Na I love that about your family man,it's brilliant 🤷♂️💜
Well said on your message of us not separating as people of various backgrounds. I feel that’s just backwards.
The topic of cultural appropriation is way more complex than people want it to be. Like you said, the US is a cultural melting pot and expecting people to stay in their own lanes for every tiny thing is ridiculous. If you're angry because you see some White Folks have Fajitas then you need to reexamine the way you live your life. On the other hand if you're planning an Indian theme wedding complete with lehenga and bindi even though you (or your fiance) don't have an Indian heritage, then don't. Someone's cultural heritage is not a wedding theme to be used like that.
Technically, cultural appropriation involves making money off someone else, especially without giving anything back to whatever people you took whatever it is you're selling from.
One of the common modern issues of cultural appropriation is that pharmaceutical companies send out scouts to rural people in Africa, South America, Southeast Asia, etc. and basically just ask them what they use as cures if people get sick. Then they take samples of whatever they tell them and go back to the lab and see what's in there. If they find anything that actually has any efficacy, they patent it and make billions off it. If the people they got it from are lucky then it's easily synthesizable and they just never see any of the money that their cultural knowledge earned the company. If they're unlucky and you actually need the plant or whatever to produce it, then the local government gets bribed and suddenly their home is now property of the pharmaceutical company, and the company doesn't want them around because it cuts into production.
What if traditional Indian weddings are better than western weddings? I acknowledge the immediate issues with appropriation, but how do we move past them?
@@navypukevomit literally just ignore people. I am Indian and I could care less because growing up in America, I have taken certain aspects from other cultures as well.
People talk about what you are and aren’t allowed to do as if they are your parents. Why take them so seriously? Many of these people who complain about the themes of weddings don’t even have the emotional maturity to handle a relationship.
Not necessarily true in the Indian case. What if the two people who are being wedded are not Indians, but they are Hindus? Then they should have no problem performing a traditional Hindu wedding.
I think a better example of cultural appropriation is turning a groups culture into just a commercial market & devaluing the meaning of it bc the person appropriating it thinks it looks cool. for example indigenous ppl having ceremonial head dresses used for cheap Halloween costumes, tattoos, etc. asian language used for tattoos, culture evolves and changes and grows but sometimes it's exploitive
I dont know the exact name of the skit but its something to do with the best police interrogator that one is really funny
You have to watch Key and Peele's "gay wedding advice" clip...a classic!!
The funny part is key and peele are both half white. They’re perspective on race is unique like a lot mixed people that have grown up in both cultures
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of cultural appropriation, my dude. Thankfully there's a really good movie that (probably accidentally) does a fantastic job of serving as an allegory for the difference between appropriation and participation: The Nightmare Before Christmas
Is christmas african american culture in your idea of this allegory (not being pretentious just a lil confused)
I think he’s trying to say that Jack was appropriating Christmas when he brought it to Halloween Town and tried to be Santa. Although I disagree with everything he said. MrLBoyd definitely understands the concepts behind cultural appropriation.
@@SparkimusPrime Firstly: Close, but no Cigar. The issue with what Jack did is both that he not only tried to be Santa, insisted that he would be a better Santa than Santa would be, but also *disallowed* Santa from participation in his own cultural heritage to do it. To bring this back to the real world, this is similar to the way in which, for example, black folk are punished for wearing their hair natural or in protective styles (by being forced to cut or change it or face exclusion, by being called dirty, or any number of other things) while white folks imitating these styles is considered fashionable or trendy. Similar things happen with vocabulary and dialect. Food. All manner of cultural things. And not just to black folks. No one should ever have a problem with others participating in their culture (swinging back to the movie, Halloweentown getting their own white Christmas is portrayed as a good thing in the end), but appropriation is not the same as participation.
@@SuperMelphis See above
7:04
Thank you! Sometimes it needs to be said.
You’ve got to react to ‘One at a Time’ if you like musicals
longest one I could find that you haven't seen - Key & Peele - Georgina and Esther and Satan
Ironically I like a musical called the Guy who Didn’t like Musicals
Why do I not remember this sketch at all? I watched every episode of Key & Peele and I don't remember this at all.
I’ll bet this was a challenge that Key and Peele couldn’t make a sketch that was simultaneously funny and sad
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Negrotown sounds so nice even I want to move there
Thisun is pretty funny...Ty brother
Can you do ASMR? Your voice is calming as hell.
There were only a couple of seasons of Dave Chapelle show, but he commonly refers to key and Peele as the spiritual successor. So essentially you are watching the later seasons of the Dave Chapelle show.
3:29 That's what she said :(
you might enjoy White Zombies from key and peele
yo I wonder how much to get a full long reaction to the full movie of Get Out
& Peele is married to a white woman which makes it even funnier
why is the video transparent?!
If you like Key & Peele and musicals react to their Les Miz skit. :)
Cultural appropriation is a weird concept to me. Either you're insulting someone or you aren't, but as soon as you start dissecting every culturally tinted action a person does and try to find reasons for why it could offend someone, without even hearing the person's intentions or that culture's opinion about it, that's where you're probably going too far. All cultures can and should be celebrated by everyone.
There is a reason reductio ad absurdum is considered a logical fallacy
They’ve sadly forgotten about cultural exchange.
“Shocked and appealled” is the opposite reaction… that sounds amazing. Explains your breadth of perspectives 🙂
I'm here just wondering when your viewers will direct you over to the mattress shopping one.
Fun fact, both Key & Peele have white and black parents
I’m curious what so-called arguments you’ve heard about cultural appropriation to dismiss so definitively…
I can’t see what you’re watching
Why do I think of the wizard of oz, Dorothy hitting her head, the emerald city?
Coheed And Cambria - 'The Unheavenly Creatures'
4:42 If I don't normally like musicals but when they're done well I love them is there still something wrong with me?
I'm just really picky and it usually has to be a comedy otherwise it seems out of place.
3:30 that's what she said
sorry
Fix ur self my mans said 🤣🤣🤣
Key&peele white zombies
About cultural appropriation .... The Multiculturalism Cult by Thomas Sowell
Atlanta?
Cultural appropriation is a weird concept to me too. Hasn't that just always happened lol? I don't know how it could happen any differently especially not in America.
Cultural appropriation is kinda the point. It means the melting pot is working for you and not against you.
It's just a method to inflict damage via cultural warfare- it's part of the culture war. People dont care that it makes sense only that its end-result claims to support their "culture-team."
I absolutely understand your viewpoint. And in a perfect world, that’s how it would work. But That’s the point. It’s still working against us. Dreadlocks and other Afro-centric hairstyles are still seen as “dirty” and unprofessional on black people, but put them on a Kardashian and they’re “exotic”. All of a sudden, dirty cornrows are now beautiful exotic “boxer braids”. Bantu knots are now “twisted mini buns”
Rap music still catches hate for being vulgar and promoting violence and drug use, but white girls can dance to it on TikTok and make millions of dollars, no questions asked.
Durags which were invented for black people to be able to train their curl patterns or to protect hairstyles while they sleep. And they’ve been associated with the “thug” or “criminal” stereotype for decades. Hell, I live in Texas. And one of the first times I went to a gun range, one of the targets had a Durag on. But now it’s become a trend to wear “Urban Hair Ties”.
How many slang words have been “adopted” into general pop culture in the past 5,10, 20 years?
Dance, music, language, fashion, etc. Elements of our history and culture are co-opted and made “acceptable” as long as they’re not on us.
That’s why I never liked the “melting pot” analogy. It’s like we have to assimilate and give up what makes us unique so everyone can feel comfortable. I was taught to use the mosaic or quilt analogy, because it allows every part to have its own distinct elements while adding to the overall beauty that is the larger picture.
TLDR: There’s a difference between “appropriation” and “appreciation”
@@cgsoldier4196 Dreadlocks are not a Black or African exclusive hairstyle. Dreadlocks are like the bow and arrow as every race an culture as used them as an hairstyle since prehistory. Vikings, Slavs, Greeks, Romans Chinese, Indians, Native Americans all have dreadlocks and versions thereof as hairstyles for thousands of years.
@@cgsoldier4196 Articulated wonderfully.
This Is So Great
6:45 THANK YOU, the human experience is all about exposing yourself to other cultures.
We're all marching towards a culturally homogenous state, and that's great.
Now you just need to do Prepared for Terries. It has to be the most ridiculous skit they ever did
Do Key & Peele Gay Wedding coach
White Zombies - Key & Peele
How incredibly stupid that all these years later people still think he was shot for wearing a hoodie 🤣
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draxx them sklounst!!!!! asap
Zing! Lol!
You should react to ultimate fight night XD
Please react to PROF. Lightwork
One at a Time (les mis)
I'm glad somebody finally said the thing I've been saying about cultural appropriation that I've been saying for the longest time
This is as if La La Land had been racially profiled and made into a musical
😅😂
Every ethnic group does it except us. We should seperate and have our own economy. I live on the East coast and its extemely segregated, Just go to new york and there is a chinese section, Korean section, Ethiopian section, Italian section and so on
you are hahaha
I in fact commonly do not like musicals.
Interracial relationships is one of the best thing ever, it's so nice to see it defeating racism.
To think all this fuss over an excess of melanin???Who'd a thought???Hmmm
React to eminem go to sleep
i feel personally attacked. i need to get help? musicals are weird man i didn't know people liked them at all lol
I think the sketch thru in a lot of stereotypes and making fun of everything that might be considered bad by some. making fun of white people touching black peoples hair and cultural appropriation. When in Society some of it is just silly to be offended.
Bro do r kelly trapped in the closet, you would have 33 videos right there to react too
If he did that I would die of laughter.
@@tomh779 He already did the Weird Al version lol and that one is much better 😂
I don't like musicals, there's plenty wrong with me internally.
Kid Rock "We the People" please!
Ouch, I might have internal problems, but my dislike of musicals is warranted.
Yeah, as someone who comes from a very mixed family segregation is horrible.
Outside of Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny, I hate musicals.
Have you seen the Reefer Madness musical with Alan Cumming based on the 1930s propaganda film? Or Cannibal the Musical by/starring Trey Parker and Matt Stone? Both a awesome lol
I agree with the fact that culture appropriation is dumb
Musicals are garbage
the garbage ones are