i love ayaka... truly, if you invest, she is a NUKE! hope this video was helpful, share your thoughts down below ^-^ www.twitch.tv/juicechanyt follow my Twitch where i stream every Wednesday 8PM UK time & Saturday 3PM UK time! you can support me big time by joining my Patreon. If you become a goat or even a crazy horse invincible, you get early access to our content! this includes scripts, TC sheets, and early versions of our videos; www.patreon.com/juice_chan_yt
@@afk6911 you can.. but it’s not that good apart from crit damage, low att and it will only buff skill blackcliff long sword is okay if you need the crit damage
10:02 its not really mentioned in the video, but its already kinda implied anyway since you always want to dash with ayaka before casting your burst to snapshot the cryo bonus. For mistsplitter havers, your combo is also different from what is shown here. your combo will be D->N1->E->Q to really maximize the buffs of the weapon source: KQM guides
yeah i did infer the use i should've been more clear my bad! i try to go in order of when the talents are introduced thank you for listing your source, KQM can be a solid database when its a character the TCS like! such as ayaka
I think you misunderstand something. This video is for those who want to build cryo anyways regardless of its position in the meta. The job of our guides is to teach to play characters in the most optimal way, not to convince somebody on the fence to play her or not. For that our prior video is made for. When you watch this guide you should have already made up your mind. ~ Foxfire
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz in terms of flex options, I’d prefer geo over cryo at least. Outside of noelle(Furina), yunjin(generally not optimal but good enough) zhongli and albedo though they never getting slotted lmao. Cryo I basically never use outside superconduct and freeze which are pretty in element so they never getting the flex slot.
As an Ayaka main myself, I'd say you did a pretty good job here, but I think you'd also laugh at me for using Ayaka, Ganyu, Mona, and Sayu as my team comp ;3
Ayaka has a lot of team options but I tend to always play the same ones and my fav mono cryo team with her is : Ayaka, Qiqi (Clam set), Shenhe, Layla. Super comfy and tanky play with ult on tap. For variations like freeze I prefer Kokomi (or now Furina) and Kazuha. Xiangling is good in there too for melts. Otherwise for weapons, I have my main account with Ayaka in the Mistsplitter, and another (BP only) account where she's using R5 Black Sword and it's honestly really good on her. Ayaka is one of my most played characters, she's really well rounded and has decent cheap or ftp options.
Meanwhile I've been running Harbinger of Dawn on her since her release. As a f2p option it felt ok. Sure it has a low base attack, but it still grants a good 102.9 crit value, which feels nice. I'd never considered Finale of the Deep because the Bond of Life effect felt uncomfy.
I first pulled Kazuha as my main and Kokomi that I got randomly, and then I got Ayaka without planning to use the team. But I guess fate had chosen me to be an Ayaka main.
Thank you, i just got ayaka today and i had 2 more 10 pulls, i was debating to save them but this video made me want her weapon, i ended up getting it, thanks for encouragement
This is ironic I just cleared abyss with freeze Ayaka comp a few days ago after hearing cryo falling off and that it's not good anymore so it's not worth it safe to say I proved them wrong (despite it being true tbf)
of course with good investment you will clear which you proved yourself already even in modern Abyss were bosses are even more tanky compared to back then. But since dendro people are able to achieve similar results with more flexibility and ease. So a lot of people will just pick the easier option.
I think Haran is a nice weapen for her, crit rate still really good because it's can help with consistency in abisses where we don't have full crowd control sides.
Ayaka is my favorite character, she is built quite well and was the character I farmed the most for ever, I have no idea how much time i lost in the blizzard domain. the fact is that despite that I can't reach more than 120% Energy Recharge and have good substats at the same time. 120% is really low and I realized that, but honestly to waste who knows how much more time trying to finally reach the goal, I don't feel like it anymore. This is really frustrating.
1:40 this is actually incorrect most mistsplitter builds should have around 2200-2400ATK at most. Just getting to 2400ATK takes ten ATK% rolls on top of needing all your regular crit/ER rolls which is tough but do-able, but 2700 is out of the question. For reference I was only able to find 2 builds in the top 100 that had 2500+ ATK that still had 30ER. The only time Ayaya should have that much baseline ATK is if you're using an ATK goblet with R5 Mistsplitter, or if you pair her with Furina or both.
hmmm true, i did say 2.7k is on INSANE subs since i have seen it before you need a literal perfect ayaka to achieve it, however also note you can get away with 120-ish ER if you have a C1 shenhe or other sources of ER
Worth noting I guess that Shenhe is probably coming in 4.4, so that's good for whales interested in Ayaka (I guess) and bad for light spenders or F2Ps. Anyone who wants to "buy in" to Ayaka but lacks the actual credit card for the buying part may have trouble assembling an Ayaka team if they didn't already have most of its parts.
I've been trying to get mist for 3 times now and it always gives me the other weapons. This time no difference. Weapon banner is such a scam. Now it looks like i have to get a job to make my Ayaka better😢
I think you underrated Marechaussee set on Ayaka. Well, at least when you’re playing her with Furina (and preferably Kazuha). When played with Furina and Kazuha, Ayaka gets so much dmg bonus, that the 20% cryo dmg bonus from blizzard 2-piece doesn’t boost the damage that much. Meanwhile, the 15% more dmg for na and ca is a good dmg boost for when the burst is on cooldown. Yes, the 40% crit rate from blizzard is better than 36%, but when you’re fighting an unfreezable enemy (for example a boss), you only get 20% crit rate. And there’s a lot of unfreezable enemies in the abyss. Meanwhile, with Furina, you always get the 36% crit rate when on Marechaussee set
My Ayaka is 2.2 attack 37 rate 245 damage R5 Amenoma Idk why why but want to point it out My highest attack on any character is wandrer When the full team gives him their buffs He becomes 72 rate 240 critical damage 5.3k attack with widsith attack buff 4.7 with elemental bonus buff
i'm still on the ayaya train with my top 200 build and am pleased to report that with a crazy good build she can still comfortably clear most abysses even in this economy in version 5.0. she has nothing on the big three tho (neuv arle mualani)
Don't know for sure but I think you can get 12 seconds out of ayaka's c4 since 6 seconds should trigger on every hit of her burst. So her entire burst plus 6 seconds from the last hit.
@@mlbbgameplay5812 i think she's probably 2nd best. kaeya may have better battery potential but Rosaria does somewhat provide more damage and more stuff than kaeya.
wow nice! 23k is good for F2P ayaka you mean kageuchi with shenhe? i mean if i were you, get mistsplitter first and then get shenhe. mist is so insane for ayaka its unreal but i think you can get 30k+ tics easily, i'll test it out on my own ayaka. 35k may be reachable... depends, what's your team & stats? i think pushing it to 40k+ needs mist imo
No mention of Haran? It definitely performs better than a lot of weapons aside from Mistsplitter and she can use the full effect of the weapon unlike Alhaitham’s
@@Juice-chan i use Haran (because is lots my 50/50) and I still have 240 cd that’s enough right? Also I have overlapped cr with blizzard but on a 2pc/2pc I have about 80 cr and the same cd are those good stats?
ayaka can deal like 1 million DPS very fast, but a lot of other units can do even more in a short amount of time, ayaka's strong but not the strongest after all you need so many 5*s to get to this point
@@Juice-chan I get heavy investment is required and the cryo argument (some what) but what other characters can output more (actual dps) over rotations constantly?
Got Ayaka C6 today. With R3 Sig. Nowadays it feels like a necessity just to stay relevant. She does not feels like a nuke. Never seen more then 34k burst numbers. More like a downgraded c0 Novilett. At least, if you using her in classic team (Mona_diona_Sucrose). Barely handles abyss 12 on last seconds.
@@Juice-chan Thank you. Unfortunately, i have no idea how to use Discord, - convoluted chat with tens of channels. But i think i lied a bit. 12-1-1 i can not do at all with Ayaka within reasonable time (over 2 mins needed), 12-2-1 is possible but slow as well. And with Ayaka manages to do up to 30k with her ult ticks, main problem is grouping. Mobs simply ignoring Venti or Sucrose attempts to CC them, and vert often Ayaka have to kill them 1 by 1 on by 2. Do not think it can be helped. But thank you again. Control is the issue.
I know that her banner is coming soon, but i’m saving primogeniture for Raiden Shogun, however Ayaka’s best 5 star weapon is also gonna be on the weapon banner, and now your just giving me a very difficult choice, should i get her weapon and see maybe if i even get lucky enough to get the weapon, or just save my primos for Raiden Shogun And before you ask what’s my pity for the banners, on the event banner it doesn’t show when i got the last 5 star (i think it was around fifty or something), and on the weapon banner i didn’t even summon on it once
as an ayaka main from the old days this is a good refresher as i just came back to play for a long time.. i have a question though and its regarding the ATK stat as you have said its pretty important and as i was watching other videos especially with furina now they also have the same opinion of having the ATK as a high priority over the crits.. so is it practically good to replace my high tier goblet artf of cryo dmg bonus over with the atk%.. both cryo dmg and atk% goblet have very good substats with a slight difference of having the atk% goblet getting a little bit above of atk substat
no, keep Cryo Bonus%, you still need an elemental bonus goblet as it brings you to that point of perfect balance if that makes sense like if you don't have it, then you will overcap on ATK%
@@Juice-chan thanks for the reply.. didnt realized there was a cap but i tried and yeah it came to like 3.1k atk still the dmg still kinda lacks but maybe because my furina and charlotte arent built yet so the supps may be the problem but still its kinda safe to assume that cryo dmg is still needed
@@Juice-chan she has a full blizzard strayer. lvl60. Favonius sword lvl70. c0. talents ate all lvl 3 (except the unupgradeable ones) team is: ayaka, ayato, kuki, and xiangling.
So, I have 50/310 crit ratio on Ayaka. On her nuke setup, with benny and Shenhe, she does around 40k per tick on her burst. But in spiral abyss, the nuke setup isn't much practical. I use her on Mono cryo or freeze team, but her burst only deals 26k per tick, and I'm bad at setting up her burst so it's usually wasted too. Yesterday I decided to replace 2 of my blizzard artifact with gladiator, and for some reason, I'm doing more damage. 30k per burst tick and 25k per elemental skill. And I also decided to remove light of foilar in favour of Amenoma because I have no luck with ER rolls. And I don't wanna farm Blizzard domain again. What am I doing wrong here, my blizzard set is not providing results.(maybe my skill issues are at play here too😮)
You need to pay attention to the enemies you are facing. For example the Tulpa won't be affected by cryo because it is a hydro Monster. So you might crit as much.
If you have 50/310 crit ratio I can pretty much guess that you're not doing much damage because your attack is way too low. That is why you started doing more damage when you equipped Gladiator. I'm assuming your attack was far below 2000 when you had Light of Foliar equipped.
So would a fresh account with ayaka, mistsplitterz and shenhe be worth farming and building or should i just start a fresh Alhaitham with foliar be a better option? Now i dont have the money these days to spend a whole lot of money ..
I wanna build a Ayaka team but i only have I pulled her a while ago and took a break from the game for 1+ year I have 5* Jean/Ayaka/Nahida/Diluc/Traveler 4* heizou/Xianling/Beidou/Diona/Kuki/chongyun/Barbara/Noelle/Collei/Sucrose/Kaya/Amber/Ninguang/Sayu/Mika/yaoyao/Faruzan/Layla/Dori/Lynette/Thoma and Lisa (many without constallation no c6) Can anyone help?
@@Juice-chan I mean for REALLY new players she can easily carry them because of how good she is at exploration and has more than enough damage for overworld but abyss...yeah...kamisato art: 8 rotations moment
Please help me. I just got Ayaka but have no idea how to build a team for her with my Charcters. I have: Neuvillette (lvl 70) Chongyun Diona Mona (lvl 60) Rosaria Obviously Barbara & Kaeya, Lisa Bennet (lvl 70) Yoimiya (lvl 60) Lynette Xiangling (lvl 60) Fischl (lvl 60) Kirara Lyney Yun yin Faruzan Kuki shinobu Beido Collei Layla Freminet Candace Noelle Yanfei Gorou Kaveh Dori Razor My best characters are pyro but i’d like to build a better team. Yoimiya is has the highest atk score now.. (1400 vs neuvillette 1100)
Imagine thinking that dionna is a dmg loss in an ayaka freeze team. Then, still thinking that ayaka is a burst based dps. It's been 3 years, and these misconceptions still exist?. Sad.
... do you think diona is better than rosaria as a 4* pick or that diona beats charlotte in a furina comp or that she beats SHENHE!? also yes the majority of her DPS is burst-based all her talents matter, but her whole kit & teams center around the burst
@Juice-chan dionna being better than rosaria for ayaka freeze with Mona? Hell yeah. Dionna being better than Charlotte for an ayaka freeze comp with furina? No, but she's slightly under Charlotte. Plus, unless furina is the only hydro applicator you have, you shouldn't be running furina with ayaka. Dionna beating out shenhe? Ofc she can't. I never said she did. I said that dionna isn't a dps loss in ayaka freeze teams. Especially if you don't have kokomi to substitute Mona for. Even if we go full on f2p, then dionna is the best choice in a freeze team as your healer and very good shielder. Here's an example if you only have Barbara, sucrose, and dionna for your ayaka, then that team is very useable it will just take creativity and effort. You only think that her dps is burst based because that's how you play her, but in actuality, she's a burst based dps. A true burst based dps could be classified as raiden (but I don't play her like that, so). And no, her teams don't center around her burst unless you make it that way. Her burst and normals are equal in freeze teams, but if you wanna get technical with it, her passives obviously favor her normals more, and her constellations split it somewhat equally. You are willingly focusing on her burst more because you want to, which is fine, but stop spreading that misconception. See, after the furina video you made, I just let things be, but when it comes to certain characters and reactions (especially overload), I'm definitely gonna be watching very carefully since misinformation is spreading alot in the genshin community as of late and I ain't standing for it. So stop with the misconceptions, please. This isn't an attack on you or me bullying you in any way.
@justahumanh427 c4 buffs her whole kit while c1 makes her passive be active alot more and c2 and 3 buff her burst while c6 buffs her charged attks. If we take the mutual buffing constellation out of the picture, you can see that outside of c5, her constellations buff her normals and burst equally.
Have ma girl at c0, 9-8-10 with mist splitter, sadly even with kazuha falls behind hyperbloom kuki, but already tops yae aggravate and xiao (im waiting on the cloud retainer SO HARD)
my friend: told me i HAVE TO pull ayaka bc she's so strong. me: doesn't like ayaka. can't pull her rotation off. doesn't have mistsplitter. nor shenhe. nor kazuha. now i have a very benched ayaka :) but hey after this video i at least KNOW why my ayaka sucks xD
as someone who's built their ayaka up from quite literally what the thumbnail says, i began on trashy 13-16k burst tics in an ayaka/ttds kokomi/venti/rosaria team with no other option here's some references; - F2P kage with no good buffers = very low barely abyss clearable 13-16k burst tics - i got kazuha to replace venti = 21k burst tics - i got ganyu to replace rosaria = 24k burst tics - i got mistsplitter = 30k burst tics - when i use mona = 30-40k burst tics, 40k unsustainable with TTDS - when i got shenhe = 40-60k burst tics depending on buffs used, TTDS mona can push me a little higher (shenhe got me to around 50k-ish burst tics but getting C2R1 bumped that into the 60's) hope those reference points help, i recommend at LEAST a mistsplitter & kazuha for ayaka to be playable! 20k is the minimum burst tics you should be dealing :)
@@Juice-chan lel thanks :D yes all that is obvious from your video, my point being that i was talked into pulling her (in 2022 for reference) but they did not tell me (or realise) that i would ALSO need a mistsplitter, kazuha and shenhe to really get her going :D i played her with the 4* sword and mona-sucrose-diona because that was the best i had :)
I need better artifacts for my Ayaka (C0), with her burst I do 35k damage per hit (with Shenhe, Kazuha and Kokomi with Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers).
im getting ayaka w/ mistsplitter but unfortunely dont have shenhe & kazuha so when they get their reruns i'll get them for now i guess ayaka/kokomi/layla/venti haha
use rosaria instead of layla! you already have kokomi so you won't be lacking in sustain, & layla doesn't really do anythign. she can't battery ayaka that well so use fav on rosa for great particle gen, with either 4PC Noblesse for ayaka buffing or 4PC EOSF for rosa's sub-DPS. if you really want a shielder, sac bow diona is better yes best girl ventilation works fine
Bro istg my ayaka has 35 crit rate over 280 crit damage running freeze build with shenhe and still deals 16k on charge attack wtf and also she's double crown.
@Juice-chan i have Venti,kokomi,Ayaka,shenhe,jean,furina,xingque built up. And I didn't know about Kazuha in the beginning and pulled for Venti. As a f2p I don't have much pulls. Therefore, suggest me what to do exactly ?
as i said, this will be fine too, but then you waste some of the buff you get from her ascension passive thanks to the burst casting animation if you want to skip your N2C & swap off immediately, then skill into burst works fine
No offence but It's a guide video, you should deliver the info slowly and clearly, The excessive use of memes and the fast info delivery gave me a headache x(
i love ayaka... truly, if you invest, she is a NUKE! hope this video was helpful, share your thoughts down below ^-^
www.twitch.tv/juicechanyt follow my Twitch where i stream every Wednesday 8PM UK time & Saturday 3PM UK time!
you can support me big time by joining my Patreon. If you become a goat or even a crazy horse invincible, you get early access to our content! this includes scripts, TC sheets, and early versions of our videos;
www.patreon.com/juice_chan_yt
you love ayaka's forehead actually
hey juice, pls can you help me? can i use Furina's weapon with ayaka? its crit dmg too but im not sure if its fits for ayaka.
@@afk6911 you can.. but it’s not that good apart from crit damage, low att and it will only buff skill blackcliff long sword is okay if you need the crit damage
@@afk6911 and ayaka’s weapons on furina would be better lol
I spent nearly a year getting her best team, weapon. and decent artifact. She's totally worth the effort
10:02 its not really mentioned in the video, but its already kinda implied anyway since you always want to dash with ayaka before casting your burst to snapshot the cryo bonus.
For mistsplitter havers, your combo is also different from what is shown here.
your combo will be D->N1->E->Q
to really maximize the buffs of the weapon
source: KQM guides
yeah i did infer the use i should've been more clear my bad! i try to go in order of when the talents are introduced
thank you for listing your source, KQM can be a solid database when its a character the TCS like! such as ayaka
Keep up the good work Juice and thank you for this guide! ❤
thank you
I literally almost shit my pants in my chair when I pulled ayaka last night .
did you shart extra loud
I am very happy with this guide! If you remember me you know how much I love Hydro and Cryo and this guide helps with my Cryo queen!
happy to hear man, good luck with your ayaka!
@@Juice-chan thx!!!!!! Btw, If you could just for the memes do a Herta guide for Star rail? (You can probably tell my taste in characters now 😂)
Great guide! All the info I was looking for plus some meta knowledge that I didn't know I needed. Awesome edits too!
thank you man, glad you enjoyed! happy that i was able to teach you some things you didn't already know ^-^
The video you posted before this one was about how cryo is a bad element. Now you try to convince me cryo is good.
I think you misunderstand something. This video is for those who want to build cryo anyways regardless of its position in the meta. The job of our guides is to teach to play characters in the most optimal way, not to convince somebody on the fence to play her or not. For that our prior video is made for. When you watch this guide you should have already made up your mind. ~ Foxfire
Cryo is not bad, it's just that it fell off after dendro. There is only one bad element in Genshin.
@@Juice-chansorry for the misunderstanding 😢
@@raixhatv6666 cryo is 2nd worse element lmao only being a bit better than geo since geo got no good characters
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz in terms of flex options, I’d prefer geo over cryo at least. Outside of noelle(Furina), yunjin(generally not optimal but good enough) zhongli and albedo though they never getting slotted lmao. Cryo I basically never use outside superconduct and freeze which are pretty in element so they never getting the flex slot.
Got pulls to FINALLY get Ayaka and so excited for the re-run. Thank you so much for the guide
12:46 as an f2p ayaya main, even i when i sleep,.... That dialogue rings in my head.... Katana wa wasao sasae,takumi wa takara o yuus..
dude really loved the video like speed ran through her build and stuff
really useful for me cuz i got back intomy old hacked account yippie ty
As an Ayaka main myself, I'd say you did a pretty good job here, but I think you'd also laugh at me for using Ayaka, Ganyu, Mona, and Sayu as my team comp ;3
Oh yes Ayaka is coming home and we building with this
i adore ayaka. i have c4r5 and they've been worth every penny. threw nahida in there too for burn melt and got a 374k tick on scara, so very happy
my cryo queen. the character that made me care for this game. come home again girl and bring me that sweet c2
Ayaka has a lot of team options but I tend to always play the same ones and my fav mono cryo team with her is : Ayaka, Qiqi (Clam set), Shenhe, Layla. Super comfy and tanky play with ult on tap. For variations like freeze I prefer Kokomi (or now Furina) and Kazuha. Xiangling is good in there too for melts. Otherwise for weapons, I have my main account with Ayaka in the Mistsplitter, and another (BP only) account where she's using R5 Black Sword and it's honestly really good on her. Ayaka is one of my most played characters, she's really well rounded and has decent cheap or ftp options.
Meanwhile I've been running Harbinger of Dawn on her since her release. As a f2p option it felt ok. Sure it has a low base attack, but it still grants a good 102.9 crit value, which feels nice.
I'd never considered Finale of the Deep because the Bond of Life effect felt uncomfy.
I first pulled Kazuha as my main and Kokomi that I got randomly, and then I got Ayaka without planning to use the team. But I guess fate had chosen me to be an Ayaka main.
Thank you, i just got ayaka today and i had 2 more 10 pulls, i was debating to save them but this video made me want her weapon, i ended up getting it, thanks for encouragement
congrats on getting it man! & no problem, happy to hear you got lucky, ayaka is simply x10 better with that weapon
your edits are so good, how do you edit, its so on point!!!
This is ironic I just cleared abyss with freeze Ayaka comp a few days ago after hearing cryo falling off and that it's not good anymore so it's not worth it safe to say I proved them wrong (despite it being true tbf)
of course with good investment you will clear which you proved yourself already even in modern Abyss were bosses are even more tanky compared to back then. But since dendro people are able to achieve similar results with more flexibility and ease. So a lot of people will just pick the easier option.
I think Haran is a nice weapen for her, crit rate still really good because it's can help with consistency in abisses where we don't have full crowd control sides.
Woah, great memes and editing. Definitely going to check out your other vids.
thank you man! glad you enjoyed
Ayaka is my favorite character, she is built quite well and was the character I farmed the most for ever, I have no idea how much time i lost in the blizzard domain.
the fact is that despite that I can't reach more than 120% Energy Recharge and have good substats at the same time.
120% is really low and I realized that, but honestly to waste who knows how much more time trying to finally reach the goal, I don't feel like it anymore.
This is really frustrating.
C1 shenhe with fav will help
tell me your stats i'll tell you what to sac for more ER
@@Juice-chan 38 Rate, 250 dmg 2100 atk
I just got her! Time to build her now 😭
good luck!
1:40 this is actually incorrect most mistsplitter builds should have around 2200-2400ATK at most. Just getting to 2400ATK takes ten ATK% rolls on top of needing all your regular crit/ER rolls which is tough but do-able, but 2700 is out of the question. For reference I was only able to find 2 builds in the top 100 that had 2500+ ATK that still had 30ER. The only time Ayaya should have that much baseline ATK is if you're using an ATK goblet with R5 Mistsplitter, or if you pair her with Furina or both.
hmmm true, i did say 2.7k is on INSANE subs since i have seen it before
you need a literal perfect ayaka to achieve it, however
also note you can get away with 120-ish ER if you have a C1 shenhe or other sources of ER
Worth noting I guess that Shenhe is probably coming in 4.4, so that's good for whales interested in Ayaka (I guess) and bad for light spenders or F2Ps. Anyone who wants to "buy in" to Ayaka but lacks the actual credit card for the buying part may have trouble assembling an Ayaka team if they didn't already have most of its parts.
Just use Ayaka,Charlote, Kazuha and Furina. Shenhe is a waste of gems for f2p, even more now with Furina.
I've been trying to get mist for 3 times now and it always gives me the other weapons. This time no difference. Weapon banner is such a scam. Now it looks like i have to get a job to make my Ayaka better😢
I think you underrated Marechaussee set on Ayaka. Well, at least when you’re playing her with Furina (and preferably Kazuha).
When played with Furina and Kazuha, Ayaka gets so much dmg bonus, that the 20% cryo dmg bonus from blizzard 2-piece doesn’t boost the damage that much. Meanwhile, the 15% more dmg for na and ca is a good dmg boost for when the burst is on cooldown.
Yes, the 40% crit rate from blizzard is better than 36%, but when you’re fighting an unfreezable enemy (for example a boss), you only get 20% crit rate. And there’s a lot of unfreezable enemies in the abyss. Meanwhile, with Furina, you always get the 36% crit rate when on Marechaussee set
3:08 Love how R5 Finale is 102% of R5 Finale
Math isnt mathing
that's meant to say kage, mb
amazing editing and memes , holy shit i laughed my ass off at 4:40
ty man!
great video as usual, you definetly cooked again! ^^
thank you man!!! :D
very informative too, i bet my ayaka will be at least 20% better soon thanks to you ^^@@Juice-chan
My Ayaka is
2.2 attack
37 rate
245 damage
R5 Amenoma
Idk why why but want to point it out
My highest attack on any character is wandrer
When the full team gives him their buffs
He becomes
72 rate
240 critical damage
5.3k attack with widsith attack buff
4.7 with elemental bonus buff
those stats are really fantastic for amenoma
nice wanderer too
Same here I too use ayaka and wanderer
I've been running Ayaya in a burning melt team lately. It consists of Nahida, Dehya and Qiqi. I don't have Shenhe. It's pretty fun.
i'm still on the ayaya train with my top 200 build and am pleased to report that with a crazy good build she can still comfortably clear most abysses even in this economy in version 5.0. she has nothing on the big three tho (neuv arle mualani)
I'm finally starting to build ayaka and i have to ask if 50% CR is too much on ayaka?
I’m trying so hard to clear 12-1 with her and it’s impossible
loving the ayaka
Is finale of the deep actually good on ayaka?? Idk if the passsive is being used to it's fullest potential so I was jsut wondering.
What about an ayaka neuvillette team?
nah that doesn't work, both are hypercarries you wanna spend a whole team buffing a hc
Brooo did you just meme AZEL 😭I gotta subscribe
Don't know for sure but I think you can get 12 seconds out of ayaka's c4 since 6 seconds should trigger on every hit of her burst. So her entire burst plus 6 seconds from the last hit.
I noticed you didn't mention Layla, she's actually a pretty good option if you're not wanting to pull on Shenhe and she provides shielding too
nah she's just as poor as diona if not even worse than diona since she can't battery, use charlotte if you want cryo sustain
@@Juice-chan is rosaria okay to substitute for shenhe?
@@mlbbgameplay5812 i think she's probably 2nd best. kaeya may have better battery potential but Rosaria does somewhat provide more damage and more stuff than kaeya.
i do like 23k per tick as a f2p talent lvl 9 no shen he yet. What the max potential damage for f2p ayaka using premium team
wow nice! 23k is good for F2P ayaka
you mean kageuchi with shenhe? i mean if i were you, get mistsplitter first and then get shenhe. mist is so insane for ayaka its unreal
but i think you can get 30k+ tics easily, i'll test it out on my own ayaka. 35k may be reachable... depends, what's your team & stats? i think pushing it to 40k+ needs mist imo
@@Juice-chan 215% crit dmg 40 crit rate 140 er 2000 attk
with kazuha
Tenacity dragon thrill and nobless
I love being a triple crowned ayaka main🥰
kamisato art! soumetsu! *60k burst tics at max investment*
:D
I need to hit up the blizzard strayer lockbox 😅😂
yes!
No mention of Haran? It definitely performs better than a lot of weapons aside from Mistsplitter and she can use the full effect of the weapon unlike Alhaitham’s
because you can't have any crit rate rolls at all with haran
If you use haran or jadecutter 2pc blizzard 2pc atk% or burst dmg are sometimes besser
using a CR weapon on ayaka = you can't have a single crit sub you need a TON of CD to compensate
@@Juice-chan i use Haran (because is lots my 50/50) and I still have 240 cd that’s enough right? Also I have overlapped cr with blizzard but on a 2pc/2pc I have about 80 cr and the same cd are those good stats?
Hey im new like level 12 and got her any tips for starting?
Me panic watching this at 4am bc I pulled Ayaka on 15 pity with no 50/50 going for sucrose
hope i helped relieve your panic :D
I now have a reason for this after getting her on 5 pity as a joke lol
hope you have fun with her!
9:57 my favorite part of this video 😂
;D
Haven’t you heard ayaka has fallen off: 60-100k ca’s and 400k+ bursts
ayaka can deal like 1 million DPS very fast, but a lot of other units can do even more in a short amount of time, ayaka's strong but not the strongest
after all you need so many 5*s to get to this point
@@Juice-chan I get heavy investment is required and the cryo argument (some what) but what other characters can output more (actual dps) over rotations constantly?
@@mainfish88 alhaitham qb hutao vv vape is tops dps wise
80k+ dps on both
keqing aggravate i assume is also great since it has no downtime pretty much
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz al qb is actually closer then U might think! hu Tao teams do more but gets atleast 30% dps from subs
@@mainfish88 wtf u talking about hu tao only gets ahead of alhaitham once she has c1r1 without either of these shes worse than him
Wait what about yelan with ayaka T-T
What organ did you sell to get C6 Furina?
liver
@@Juice-chan my liver so damaged that if I sell it, I can't even get a 4 star c6.
Got Ayaka C6 today. With R3 Sig. Nowadays it feels like a necessity just to stay relevant. She does not feels like a nuke. Never seen more then 34k burst numbers. More like a downgraded c0 Novilett. At least, if you using her in classic team (Mona_diona_Sucrose). Barely handles abyss 12 on last seconds.
you have C6? with such bad clear times? hmmm, can you maybe record a run & share it to me on my discord, link is in desc i'd love to help you out
@@Juice-chan Thank you. Unfortunately, i have no idea how to use Discord, - convoluted chat with tens of channels. But i think i lied a bit. 12-1-1 i can not do at all with Ayaka within reasonable time (over 2 mins needed), 12-2-1 is possible but slow as well. And with Ayaka manages to do up to 30k with her ult ticks, main problem is grouping. Mobs simply ignoring Venti or Sucrose attempts to CC them, and vert often Ayaka have to kill them 1 by 1 on by 2. Do not think it can be helped. But thank you again. Control is the issue.
I know that her banner is coming soon, but i’m saving primogeniture for Raiden Shogun, however Ayaka’s best 5 star weapon is also gonna be on the weapon banner, and now your just giving me a very difficult choice, should i get her weapon and see maybe if i even get lucky enough to get the weapon, or just save my primos for Raiden Shogun
And before you ask what’s my pity for the banners, on the event banner it doesn’t show when i got the last 5 star (i think it was around fifty or something), and on the weapon banner i didn’t even summon on it once
hey can we use jean w her
????
Im so upset i stopped playing for a year cus now im super behind and my ayaka is super weak now :(
as an ayaka main from the old days this is a good refresher as i just came back to play for a long time.. i have a question though and its regarding the ATK stat as you have said its pretty important and as i was watching other videos especially with furina now they also have the same opinion of having the ATK as a high priority over the crits.. so is it practically good to replace my high tier goblet artf of cryo dmg bonus over with the atk%.. both cryo dmg and atk% goblet have very good substats with a slight difference of having the atk% goblet getting a little bit above of atk substat
no, keep Cryo Bonus%, you still need an elemental bonus goblet as it brings you to that point of perfect balance if that makes sense
like if you don't have it, then you will overcap on ATK%
@@Juice-chan thanks for the reply.. didnt realized there was a cap but i tried and yeah it came to like 3.1k atk still the dmg still kinda lacks but maybe because my furina and charlotte arent built yet so the supps may be the problem but still its kinda safe to assume that cryo dmg is still needed
Why is my ayaka’s physical damage 1008 per hit and for cryo damage 400 per hit?
can you tell me your build, team & setup?
@@Juice-chan she has a full blizzard strayer. lvl60. Favonius sword lvl70. c0. talents ate all lvl 3 (except the unupgradeable ones) team is: ayaka, ayato, kuki, and xiangling.
Why is ur ayaka on favonius sword? It's meant for supports
Should i usr my c5 diona or c0 rosaria
I use kagotsurube isshin with ayaka n I quite like it...with the hewing gale dealing xtra damage...😅
nice!
It's just sad that I can't R5 isshin...
It will be nice if it can go R5
I have a level 1 shenhe for the longest time and i just pulled a mistapliter in one wish....is hoyo trying to say something?
So, I have 50/310 crit ratio on Ayaka. On her nuke setup, with benny and Shenhe, she does around 40k per tick on her burst. But in spiral abyss, the nuke setup isn't much practical. I use her on Mono cryo or freeze team, but her burst only deals 26k per tick, and I'm bad at setting up her burst so it's usually wasted too. Yesterday I decided to replace 2 of my blizzard artifact with gladiator, and for some reason, I'm doing more damage. 30k per burst tick and 25k per elemental skill. And I also decided to remove light of foilar in favour of Amenoma because I have no luck with ER rolls. And I don't wanna farm Blizzard domain again. What am I doing wrong here, my blizzard set is not providing results.(maybe my skill issues are at play here too😮)
You need to pay attention to the enemies you are facing. For example the Tulpa won't be affected by cryo because it is a hydro Monster. So you might crit as much.
@@Juice-chan if you do account reviews, I would like mine to be featured🤣 I absolutely wanna know what I'm doing wrong.
If you have 50/310 crit ratio I can pretty much guess that you're not doing much damage because your attack is way too low. That is why you started doing more damage when you equipped Gladiator. I'm assuming your attack was far below 2000 when you had Light of Foliar equipped.
So would a fresh account with ayaka, mistsplitterz and shenhe be worth farming and building or should i just start a fresh Alhaitham with foliar be a better option? Now i dont have the money these days to spend a whole lot of money ..
definitely foliar haitham if you're only allowed to pick one, but if you want to invest in constellations down the line pick ayaka
I wanna build a Ayaka team but i only have I pulled her a while ago and took a break from the game for 1+ year
I have 5* Jean/Ayaka/Nahida/Diluc/Traveler
4* heizou/Xianling/Beidou/Diona/Kuki/chongyun/Barbara/Noelle/Collei/Sucrose/Kaya/Amber/Ninguang/Sayu/Mika/yaoyao/Faruzan/Layla/Dori/Lynette/Thoma and Lisa (many without constallation no c6)
Can anyone help?
Genshin players when you tell them there will be a free ayaka at AR42 at the function
GOATDOT MY GOAT
tbh if they gave away a free ayaka nowadays what would that even do its -67k without mistsplitter
@@Juice-chan I mean for REALLY new players she can easily carry them because of how good she is at exploration and has more than enough damage for overworld but abyss...yeah...kamisato art: 8 rotations moment
true her dash is actually not bad, sucks since people are locked off from beyond lvl 40 until inazuma tho
I WILL DISPATCH OF YOU IN 8 ROTATIONS
Is it ok if i use R5 harbinger of dawn on ayaka thats the best weapon i have rn
What about the battle pass weapons for Ayaka ?
the way i have ayaka kokomi and rosaria, but no kazuha or venti, who do i use now 😭 sucrose is bad
heizou with R5 TTDS works!
cannot u use Jean to swirl Benneot ult to apply pyro as fast as ayaka burst
Please help me. I just got Ayaka but have no idea how to build a team for her with my Charcters. I have:
Neuvillette (lvl 70)
Chongyun
Diona
Mona (lvl 60)
Rosaria
Obviously Barbara & Kaeya, Lisa
Bennet (lvl 70)
Yoimiya (lvl 60)
Lynette
Xiangling (lvl 60)
Fischl (lvl 60)
Kirara
Lyney
Yun yin
Faruzan
Kuki shinobu
Beido
Collei
Layla
Freminet
Candace
Noelle
Yanfei
Gorou
Kaveh
Dori
Razor
My best characters are pyro but i’d like to build a better team. Yoimiya is has the highest atk score now.. (1400 vs neuvillette 1100)
Ayaka/Mona/Lynette (use sucrose as soon as you can)/Rosaria
also neuv doesn't need ATK% he needs HP% :)
Imagine thinking that dionna is a dmg loss in an ayaka freeze team. Then, still thinking that ayaka is a burst based dps. It's been 3 years, and these misconceptions still exist?. Sad.
...
do you think diona is better than rosaria as a 4* pick
or that diona beats charlotte in a furina comp
or that she beats SHENHE!?
also yes the majority of her DPS is burst-based
all her talents matter, but her whole kit & teams center around the burst
@Juice-chan dionna being better than rosaria for ayaka freeze with Mona? Hell yeah.
Dionna being better than Charlotte for an ayaka freeze comp with furina? No, but she's slightly under Charlotte. Plus, unless furina is the only hydro applicator you have, you shouldn't be running furina with ayaka.
Dionna beating out shenhe? Ofc she can't. I never said she did. I said that dionna isn't a dps loss in ayaka freeze teams. Especially if you don't have kokomi to substitute Mona for.
Even if we go full on f2p, then dionna is the best choice in a freeze team as your healer and very good shielder.
Here's an example if you only have Barbara, sucrose, and dionna for your ayaka, then that team is very useable it will just take creativity and effort.
You only think that her dps is burst based because that's how you play her, but in actuality, she's a burst based dps. A true burst based dps could be classified as raiden (but I don't play her like that, so). And no, her teams don't center around her burst unless you make it that way.
Her burst and normals are equal in freeze teams, but if you wanna get technical with it, her passives obviously favor her normals more, and her constellations split it somewhat equally.
You are willingly focusing on her burst more because you want to, which is fine, but stop spreading that misconception.
See, after the furina video you made, I just let things be, but when it comes to certain characters and reactions (especially overload), I'm definitely gonna be watching very carefully since misinformation is spreading alot in the genshin community as of late and I ain't standing for it.
So stop with the misconceptions, please.
This isn't an attack on you or me bullying you in any way.
With c3 i find both charge as well as burst imp 👀
Maybe c4 would change it ig
@justahumanh427 c4 buffs her whole kit while c1 makes her passive be active alot more and c2 and 3 buff her burst while c6 buffs her charged attks. If we take the mutual buffing constellation out of the picture, you can see that outside of c5, her constellations buff her normals and burst equally.
Does she work with furina?
Juice I've blackcliff r1 , haran r1 and amenoma r5 which one should give me the most benefits
Haran R1 :) but if you have a bunch of crit rate subs, then Haran isn't good anymore & you should use amenoma
Have ma girl at c0, 9-8-10 with mist splitter, sadly even with kazuha falls behind hyperbloom kuki, but already tops yae aggravate and xiao (im waiting on the cloud retainer SO HARD)
lol xiao only gets topped pre-c6 faruzan, after c6 faruzan even with 4 star weap he does more dmg than ayaka at that point
I cant even get decent artifacts for ayaka, i legit have her at %10/180 crit and my attack is even worse , how do people get good artifacts xD
@@justchillin7274 by farming. A lot. With farming set AND REROLLing for that same set. That's how i got semi-good emblem sets for cookgirl and bookboy
what hydro unit would you recommend when i only have e0 barbara and e6 candace... legitimately the only 2 hydro units that i have unlocked
barbara with R5 TTDS, but use Xingqiu as soon as you can, & upgrade to mona/kokomi/furina ASAP!
my friend: told me i HAVE TO pull ayaka bc she's so strong. me: doesn't like ayaka. can't pull her rotation off. doesn't have mistsplitter. nor shenhe. nor kazuha. now i have a very benched ayaka :) but hey after this video i at least KNOW why my ayaka sucks xD
as someone who's built their ayaka up from quite literally what the thumbnail says, i began on trashy 13-16k burst tics in an ayaka/ttds kokomi/venti/rosaria team with no other option
here's some references;
- F2P kage with no good buffers = very low barely abyss clearable 13-16k burst tics
- i got kazuha to replace venti = 21k burst tics
- i got ganyu to replace rosaria = 24k burst tics
- i got mistsplitter = 30k burst tics
- when i use mona = 30-40k burst tics, 40k unsustainable with TTDS
- when i got shenhe = 40-60k burst tics depending on buffs used, TTDS mona can push me a little higher
(shenhe got me to around 50k-ish burst tics but getting C2R1 bumped that into the 60's)
hope those reference points help, i recommend at LEAST a mistsplitter & kazuha for ayaka to be playable! 20k is the minimum burst tics you should be dealing :)
@@Juice-chan lel thanks :D yes all that is obvious from your video, my point being that i was talked into pulling her (in 2022 for reference) but they did not tell me (or realise) that i would ALSO need a mistsplitter, kazuha and shenhe to really get her going :D i played her with the 4* sword and mona-sucrose-diona because that was the best i had :)
I need better artifacts for my Ayaka (C0), with her burst I do 35k damage per hit (with Shenhe, Kazuha and Kokomi with Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers).
yep def pick up some upgrades! 40k is absolutely within your reach :)
im getting ayaka w/ mistsplitter but unfortunely dont have shenhe & kazuha so when they get their reruns i'll get them
for now i guess ayaka/kokomi/layla/venti haha
use rosaria instead of layla! you already have kokomi so you won't be lacking in sustain, & layla doesn't really do anythign. she can't battery ayaka that well
so use fav on rosa for great particle gen, with either 4PC Noblesse for ayaka buffing or 4PC EOSF for rosa's sub-DPS. if you really want a shielder, sac bow diona is better
yes best girl ventilation works fine
@@Juice-chan okay I’ll level up Rosaría! Thank you!
My ayaka has no damage with 235 CRT damage and 30 crit rate the damage is low
I still use dawn of harbinger for here 😅
Bro istg my ayaka has 35 crit rate over 280 crit damage running freeze build with shenhe and still deals 16k on charge attack wtf and also she's double crown.
Unlike my Navia lit deals 300k every elemental skin running with 4 4stars
can you tell me how much ATK she has & what LVL her talents are?
trying to get c6 ayaka but the char and environment are getting stronger so i hoped to have c2 only
good luck!
what about jean? is she any good on ayaka?
I got the Ayato weapon which gives my Ayaka 50 crit rate and stays at 240 crit damage at 2k atk do i still pull for mistsplitter??
yes mistsplitter is a lot better, you can get much better stats with it
Ayaka Shenhe Furina Jean
playing jean with ayaka is bricked though
@Juice-chan i have Venti,kokomi,Ayaka,shenhe,jean,furina,xingque built up. And I didn't know about Kazuha in the beginning and pulled for Venti. As a f2p I don't have much pulls. Therefore, suggest me what to do exactly ?
Smash. Smash. Smash. Smash.
What if I use Skill -> Burst -> N2C instead?
as i said, this will be fine too, but then you waste some of the buff you get from her ascension passive thanks to the burst casting animation
if you want to skip your N2C & swap off immediately, then skill into burst works fine
No offence but It's a guide video, you should deliver the info slowly and clearly, The excessive use of memes and the fast info delivery gave me a headache x(
other channels guide videos like this if you want, this video good cuz it's different, fast and funny.
Sorry it ain't ya cup a tea. I love it!
you are one boring individual
How to fight boss?
I wonder if its bettwr to go with attack of cryo goblet if i use furina. Probably attack % but i dont have it... 😅
nope, cryo still better
@@Juice-chan even if my furina is c2?
i feel whale at 2.5k atk but im trying 4 3k attack i need to min max more
make sure your other subs are still balanced in turn though!
I got her at c2 under 50 pulls...plus Mona at last so next 5 star is guaranteed Don't know how.
damn sick! stellar luck i'd save for her C4 in future since its C6-quality
Should I go for mistsplitter when Im also getting navia?
yes since you will have a use for both weapons, & ayaka is a LOT better with mist!
Can someone help me with dragonspine domain? American server
This BGM is from Fairy Tail anime right ?
perchance
I have her set 38.2 cr rate and 205crit dmg is that good for her cuz I don’t have a crit sword oh and 2.1 attack
if you're on kageuchi yes this is good
if you're on a 5* weapon this is bad you need more CDMG & ATK
@@Juice-chan yes am on r5 kageuchi
Is 26.7% crit rate and 179.6 crit damage good?
No
Is her brother's weapon works too? That's i only i have
works but then you can't have any CR subs
navias weapon came instead of mistsplitter😭😭🤬🤬😭😭
I even pulled for shenhe and kazu but qiqi came home so I now have a c1 qiqi🤬🤬
aw shucks :( well hey, if you get navia who's a good unit, the weapon looks sick on her!
@@Juice-chan welp I tried getting her but hey I still have time😭😭
i do have ayatos weapon is it also ok for ayaka?
yes but its not as good as mist