@@shuyaku99 lol i've heard that 7950x is better than x3d version hahaha, not because it have x3d at the end means it is faster haha x3d is super hot haha
@@notenjoying666 No, they only produce a part of Intel's CPU, most of the parts are manufactured by Intel on the 7 nm process and the rest is processed by tsmc on the 5 nm or 3 nm process, it's not like Intel can't compete with them. AMD is just stuck with 10 nm because there are still too many undeveloped DUV machines to break even on investment. If they give up self-production or their first chips will be processed by tsmc, then AMD will be the loser. have trouble
The price is realy the issue. That said, the i9 is better for productivity tasks... If the i9 was cheaper, we would have a debate on which one is better. I'm sure some people would go for the i9 for PCs they use for gaming and work.
It doesn't. 14900KS will gain 25-30% more with fast ring/tight ddr5 ram. It's undoubtedly faster than 7800x3d in every single way. 7800x3d for normal gamers, 14900KS for people wanting the absolute fastest.
@@notenjoying666 you have no clue what memory/ring tune does on Intel lol. It shows how clueless masses are about overclocking. It's a generational leap in performance. It scales like crazy. I only have an example with 9900KS on my channel with bdie, but 14900KS has exactly identical sensitivity if not better.
More cache doesn't immediately Translate to better performance. Intel's cache is literally laid out flat on the CCD, making its physical contact farther away from CPU cores-especially P Cores. AMD's Cache is stacked on top of main CCD cores. Making its physical contact distance shorter. Shorter distance alone already making huge difference in IPC. Because the electrons doesn't have to travel too far away. That's why Overclocking any x3D CPU from AMD will immediately revoke warranty. Because they also create foolproof measure on the CPU die to detect whether or not it's overclocked.
Overclocking CPU for maximum fps is dead anyway In esports, you cant compare between 400-500fps and in AAA games CPU is bottlenecked by the GPU anyway @@niezzayt3809
The Ryzen 7 actually lost for perfomance, it does have the efficency advantage. The problem with the i9 are the bad voltages and bad scheduling while gaming (Hardware Unboxed showed gaming perfomance and efficency increasing by a lot with APO).
@@saricubra2867 how bad this aged now people have to use different bios settings to keep ther systems Stable with a Intel 13th and 14th gen so they lose up to 11% performance. Intel is just a joke they take so much money for ther products and from 2010 - 2018 they was bussy scaming people with high prices, without AMD and Radeon we will sit here with 4cores 8 threads for 400 or 600$
Ryzen 7 7800x3d - the best gaming CPU for a new PC building Ryzen 7 5800X3D - the best gaming CPU, who don't want upgrade AM4 socket to AM5. Intel i9 14900KS - not for gamers choice.
5800X3D is too expensive. Might as well buy a new mobo, DDR5 RAM and a 7500f for a little bit more and get the same performance. At least then you still have an upgrade path. 5800X3D should be 200$ MAX based on it's performance.
Haha. So true. You can compare 2 GPUs or CPUs at a similar price point and have the AMD one ahead by a mile but it will still be described as a piece of sh*t at the bottom of the benchmark. Proper fanboy site😂
"In a time of record inflation, the high power consumption and temperatures of the 14900KS will both provide entertainment and heating to the user, something that Advanced Marketing Devices's 7800X3D and its "3D Cache" can only dream to accomplish" or something I suppose ? XD
1. Destroys it in multi threading. 2. Destroys it in PC snappiness and latency 3. Destroys it in gaming with fast tuned ddr5 (can do 25-30% better than here) 4. Literally destroys it in everything speed related besides horrendous efficiency and price. But you gotta pay for the fastest.
@@ArnikoGiri can you read bro? With fast tuned ddr5 and tuned ring clocks. They'll give a ton more fps to that chip, xmp is absolutely crap for a i9 KS cpu.
but what video did you see? ok that the i9 consumes three times as much, but you can't say that the ryzen beats the intel... ok it's more convenient because it costs half as much and consumes 3 times less but the i9 is superior. In some games Ryzen beats it, but Intel won by a lot... then forget one thing... AMD is real shit for programs and heavy work, it's only good on games, while Intel is not only sensational on games, but it's the best for working with... so leaving aside consumption and price intel i9 14900ks is the best processor around currently... amd is only for games, intel for everything.
@@__Francesco__bla bla bla blab blah *intel fanboys after realizing there are 3-4 billion gamers on the planet and editors and people doing works are way way way less
@@SSJBen Nah. 14900k is hotter 90% of the time. And 7800x3d is using 2 times smaller node 10nm vs 5nm so its 2 times harder to cool it. +as author said he undervolted 14900ks so yeah...💀
@@SSJBen, awwww butt hurt Intel fanboy trying to make yourself feel better by saying , look they are equally hot , do you sob a lot looking at these benchmarks Intel always loosing , lol
I don't quite get all the negative comments on intel. 14900k is not focused on gaming. It does a good job ALSO at gaming but is a productivity and multi-tasking monster. 7800x3D is a gaming CPU with all of it's 8 cores available for 3D v-cache. It has a crazy 96Mb of L3 cache and it is also advertised as a gaming processor. It has one primary purpuse and does the job extremely well. 7800x3D - 10/10 for gaming and 7/10 for productivity 14900k - 9/10 for gaming and 10/10 for produvtivity 7950x3D - 9.5/10 for gaming and 8.5/10 for productivity (it also has 8 cores for v-cache, like 7800x3D but requires more fiddling to get all the cores active for games, 7800x3d is plug and play, but in the end it gets similar performance as 7800x3d, perhaps 1% lower results on average). This is the reason why 14900k is 3x the price of 7800x3D...because it can also do much more stuff that is not related for gaming. If you are like me and you are building a PC tower solely for gaming purpuse, get 7800x3D and save some money.
As an XOC guy myself I would like to share a few words of my own first this guy has paired the 14900ks with ddr5 6000 which is not the highest speed ram which it can support unlike the r7 7800x3d which would not even show any difference with any faster ram because its already reached the limits of the infinity fabric so by this what I want is while the 7800x3d is paired with the fastest possible ram it can support which would actually make a difference the 14900ks on the other hand is not so just to make this comparision a little bit more even pair it with atleast ddr5 7200 also you've told that you have undervolted the 14900ks and with my experience with overclocking and also undervolting the 14900ks it works best with the voltage it comes out of the box with about 1.4V if you try to downclock or undervolt this cpu it will make it perform worse undervolting the 14900ks only makes sense if you don't have enough cooling capacity but then why even bother buying the 14900ks also you've told us absolute nothing about which motherboard you are using for the r7 since mobos could make a difference too that matters as well and lastly it is the SP of the cores of both of the processor you've got that matters also your i9 might have worse cores that other i9's and your r7 might have better cores from other r7's and from all this I don't necessairly mean that either one of them is worse the 7800x3d is the best processor for gaming both in it's price point and from AMD andis meant more for consumers who plays games more than tinkering with settings in bios while 14900ks is meant for enthusiast like myself who like bios and making and breaking records more than playing games but what I'm saying is the 7800c3d is paired with the best it could support while the 14900ks is not and one last more thing which I would like to add is that $749 pricetag might not be worth it to consumers but to us it is I mean almost PS- r7 7800x3d is the best gaming processor for normal consumers while the 14900ks is the best gaming processor for enthusiasts although it was not meant to be a gaming processor but rather some to break oc records on PPS- don't mind any mistakes in it, it was a handful typing this Edit: also I see people in the comments taking about power consumption and to that I would say the reason intel processor in whole not only consumes more power but also performs worse than they were meant to is cuz they are on an older processor node compared to AMD and now I know many people will say why pay more for an older process node so that's a whole other debate topic which I don't even wanna get into Edit 2- Y'all don't say I don't even own a 14900ks to begin with I've got 8 of em yes 8 I bought 8 to test those 8 14900ks's seperately and then keep the one with the best silicon or the god bin one and sell the others to my homies for cheaper
Agreed on the RAM Speed being a Handicap for Intel but at least lets agree that the efficiency for the work is ridiculously low.. 50% Usage at 210watts vs 80% Usage at 85watts? I am sorry but the intel is only good at winning OC contests that affect 0.001% of the population for everything else is a horrible pick over AMD.
To start, this comparison IS fair to have the same ram speed. Letting the intel have faster speed is very clearly not making it fair LOL. 4 months ago eTeknix released a video comparing the i9-14900k with the 7800x3d and albeit its a 14900k and not 14900ks, your theory about memory speed was proven wrong on nearly every title he tested (42) especially when it came to 4k resolution. The 7800x3d managed to beat the 14900k in most titles using 7600mhz cl38 ram for both cpus, which performed worse on the amd than the 6000mhz cl30 ram it prefers. Also, theres games that benefit from 6000mhz+ ram speed on the 7800x3d, that is not the max speed it can support. The 7800x3d is the best gaming cpu PERIOD. If you have to spend 2.5x as much, draw 2-3x the power, run 25% faster ram and generate 2-3x the heat just to perform equal or 1% better in gaming, you lost. the 14900ks is the best for overclocking records like you said but if its for gaming go x3d. ruclips.net/video/-Wkr3FV50xI/видео.html video for reference
7800x3d is a real gift to gamers half the price intels top stuff for same performance on average half the power draw so you can get cheaper mobo does not heat up like the sun so you can get a air cooler
Power Consumption: 2.25x Price: +$300 Performance: Almost the same Conclusion: Core i9-14900KS is a waste of silicon, money and power. Just buy a 13900K (or 7950X/3D) if you want high multithreaded performance with great gaming performance. If you don't care about that, 7800X3D is the way to go.
7800X3D is faaaar superior for 1/2 the price. Amazing. This was the first time in over 2 decades I built a RIG with AMD and not Intel. And I don’t think I’m looking back.
@@justsayno1734 It is not. When accounting for features, power draw and RT performance, the 4080 Super is just the better card overall out of the two. I wouldn't look at RX 7900 XTX right now, it made sense only when the 4080 was $1200+, but right now the 4080 Super just killed it. BUT I agree saying AMD is not good at GPUs is pretty stupid.
@@justsayno1734 a wise man would not look at ONLY the gaming performance but the WHOLE gpu itself, if AMD offers good software support and gpu features like Nvidia then AMD Radeon wouldn't have to deal with their low marketshare but until then Nvidia will keep dominating the gpu marketshare
I think when you look at used prices for recent nvidia cards, it’s really pretty price competitive with the AMD stuff. But the features and driver support are way, way ahead. They’re even moving away from the clunky old nvidia control panel with the new nvidia app beta.
It wasnt enough that already the 7 7800x3d beats the 14900KS while being 60% the price and using 40% of the power, but windows just rolled an update that boosts ryzen 7000 series by around 10%
Get ddr5 7600mhz + for i9 or any other intel 12gen and up and test it again. You will have to see difference, or even ddr4 4000mhz + with tight timings. Why do all of these youtube benchmarkers underestimate ram speed when it comes to intel, just why 😮💨.
Two years ago it was amd crying use faster ram, now it's Intel fans wanting the fast ram... 2% better frame rates and spend 60 bucks more.for a kit or ram. Intel lost this round. It's ok. KS chips are going to need a car radiator to keep them cool not thermal throttling.
I know you are trying to compare apples to apples, but I am pretty sure that allowing the Intel processor to run with its maximum memory speed be it 7200, 8000 or 8400 would alter the FPS read out that you are showing here. I am sure that handicapping the Intel processor, based on the memory speed limitations of the AMD processor is the right thing to do, but you might want to make another video that shows "tweaked versions" of both of these processors at their maximum potential. This sort of testing reminds me of putting 87 octane gas on a cammed turbo vehicle, and hearing Scotty saying, "I've given her all she's got captain."
Why are you a fan btw ? It's a corporation that makes computer hardware , what's up with brand loyalty , so stick to a company that hasn't produced a decent cpu since 2017 how does that benefit you ? AMD , Intel , Nvidia or any other company are just corporations, no need for brand loyalty , they won't thank you for it , but if you vote with your wallet you get better computer parts for less . What's up with this fanboyism.
@@skywalker1991 Well being a "fan" of a brand can result from earlier experiences when e.g. brand A products worked flawlessly for you while brand B caused problems.
I am mainly playing simulator games and I was surprised to see that AMD's chip performs better in MSFS. It used to be Intel IIRC a few months/year ago? I am an intel user (an old 9800X from the now stopped X series) and seriously start to consider AMD as an upgrade.. I am not interested in overclocking as I live in hot country (during summer months) so this is an extra plus point for switching to AMD. Only thing is I've seen in YT that there are some issues with some combinations of certain mobos with AMD cpus they can slowly cook/fry the cpu (and even the mobo itself) even on stock settings.. Intel platforms were traditionally more robust and stable and cpus could not be damaged easily even under OC..
Performance of these CPUs is similar because of GPU bottleneck. Based on fact that I9-14900KS is under lower usage by 20%-30% than 7800X3D with the same fps, I9-14900KS seems to give much more fps than 7800X3D when both used on 100%. AMD fanboys just err. Not so easy lol.
@@ForzaHorizon5Player_ based on total utilization. The 14900ks has 3x the cores and 2x the threads over the 7800x3D. I would absolutely expect utilization to be lower. With 20/30% lower utilization and consuming considerably more power, that's not a good result at all. Intel fanboys I guess.
Averaging the average of each game 7800X3D - 156.9FPS - 99.87% 14900KS - 157.1FPS - 100% *14900KS is .13% higher fps* Averaging the c.pwr at the end of the test (when it starts to fade) 7800X3D - 66.4W 14900KS - 170.8W *14900KS uses 2.57x more power(+104.4W)* Lowest retail price in US (5/3/24) 7800X3D - $358.99 14900KS - $663.99 *14900KS costs 1.84 times more(+$305)*
Yup Intel lost it plain, but I do agree the Intel 12th gen i5 12400F, 12600K and 13600K were worth the money paid for em as they were able to be at par or better than AMD CPUs in same price park.
I have a 7900X with my 4090 and my game room stays so hot because of it is almost unbearable. I just ordered a 7800x3d to replace the 7900x and am really looking forward to the lower power draw and reduced heat problems, plus a slight boost in frames and elimination of stuttering due to only having one CCD. I will hang on to the 7900x in case i need to build a productivity system in the future. Its a great CPU but less than ideal for gaming and a monster for power draw.
Warzone seems to do it with any card not just the 4090 even if you'll use 6700 xt on 1090 you will qllpcate very close to it and 1440p you'll allocate 12 gb vram so I guess they have a point here.
I've been happy with my i7-12700K (upgrade from 7700K), but if next year's GPU upgrades + AMD CPU keep trending upwards with Intel just...doing re-releases...I might actually consider fully rebuilding around an AMD board. The stability is nuts too for AMD, maintaining sub 80W...that's impressive and means cooling + PSU becomes much less of an issue in terms buying parts.
When u test solo games i would love to see the performance on 1440p.maybe 4k cause these builds are made for 4k and 2k res imo. I know is a comparison between these 2 in the cpu intensive scenes when u test on 1080p u mainly testing for lows 0.1% in competitive games but for solo players 0.1% matters less. Average fps and 1% lows wich are minim fpses without stutter that's what concers us more.
They test it at 1080p with a 4090 to artificially create a cpu limited scenario to highlight differences between CPUs. For solo games at 1440p and 4k, it's a GPU limited scenario where there is no difference between all last gen CPUs. So take the cheapest AM5 CPU and you'll be fine for a few years and be able to upgrade to another generation later. Buying high end cpu for solo gaming is usually a waste of money.
@@palapapa1510 no it is bs 1080p for 14900ks and 7800x3d ? what a joke, you will be suprised how much better the Ryzen run with how much better FPS then the i9 in higher resolutions.
The 14900KS is a CPU for enthusiasts who OC it to 6.3 GHz on liquid cooling and run 8800 MT/s DDR5 memory. But for everyone else, the 7800X3D is great.
@@enginex99 If you knew anything you'd know its way more than just 1-2% FPS boost in CPU bound scenarios. Sure, 7800X3D makes most sense for most people. But its a lie to try and claim 14900K/KS doesn't beat it.
Most of 14900k's cant run stable even at 7800. 7600 is the fastest anyone can rly run, anything above is a silicon lottery. Also you can oc memory on amd, and tighten up the timings.
14900ks uses more than the double power to deliver the same or less performance and is more than twice as expensive. But 14900ks is amazing for productivity, where the 7800x3d lacks. If you're building only for gaming, DEFINITELY 7800X3D WINS.
@@leonardog.2491 absolutely! You can do many different tasks. I currently have 7800x3d running. And I'm using unity as well as blender, and it runs smoothly no issues whatsoever. But if you're a graphic designer, it might not be the best option for you.
That 3D V-cache is really giving a tough time to intel flagship.. 2x and in some cases 3x the power consumption on intel part. Intel really needs to answer 3D V-cache
The problem is bad scheduling on the i9s, Hardware Unboxed did some tests and increased gaming perfomance by 30% and halved the power consumptio through APO
True.. Intel really needs a 3d vcache competitor or they will lose. Already losing and dying in market share for desktop pc, now with epyc destroying xeon and no one buying arc I don’t see a future in Intel lol
I don't get it. In the majority of tests like Hardware-Unboxed or TechpowerUp, the 7800X3D has a better AVG and 1% low than the i9 14900K. Why is it the other way round in your tests?
RAM Speed being equal on Both handicap Intel so this is best case scenario for AMD. 7800X3D can only support 6000mhz memory while the 14900KS can do over 8000mhz. So if you artificially handicap the 14900KS to slow speed (Its rather slow for it) RAM you have these results.
Damn Intel has fallen HARD, It doesn't make sense compared to the 78x3d it's working about half as hard being roughly 50% underutilized, it temps are ok some times Little bit higher/ lower then the 78x3d, but the major concern is it's power consumption like twice the power for 4 more fps is nuts. Ik it's not gonna happen but I hope that Arrow lake is at least more efficient than its 14th gen predecessor
Ryzen 7800X3D wins this battle, but the 14900KS still has excellent gaming performance and is a productivity monster, albeit, with horrible power efficiency. Intel must step up to the plate with 15th-generation Arrow Lake and performance per watt power efficiency against AMD's Zen 5 platform. The 7800X3D is the better investment for most gamers.
one big thing i noticed is, in the tests the AMD cpu is always around 50% or higher utilization, whereas the intel is as low as 21% at some spots meaning it seems to have a LOT more overhead implying both sides are really just GPU bottle necked
Well... this video confirms me in my decision in getting a 7800x3d. And that is someone saying who only used Intel since I got my first PC, 26 years ago. 🙊
From the 13900K, it took 3 attempts for Intel to beat the 7800X3D in raw performance. That too with 2x the power consumption, and it costing 2x more, for just 2 FPS higher. Safe to say, the 14900KS should NOT be bought for gaming.
unless it's a specific comp game that squeezes slightly more fps with intel or u do productivity work, there's no reason to not get a 7800x3d for gaming specifically. Far cheaper, mobos are also cheaper, way less power consumption which also makes cooling easier and very stable i might add lol.
@TestingGames A comparison could be handy of how much money had been used on electricity, let's say per half an hour or hour of gameplay on AMD and Intel CPUs.
Games :
Resident Evil 4 - 0:00
Call of Duty: Warzone - 0:53
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 1:59
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 3:18
Starfield - 4:25
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 5:29 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
Forza Horizon 5 - 6:45 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Hogwarts Legacy - 7:56 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Remnant 2 - 8:54
The Witcher 3 - 9:48 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesWitcher
System:
Windows 11
Core i9-14900KS - bit.ly/43nHy9P
ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU
CPU Cooler - MSI MAG CORELIQUID C360 - bit.ly/3mOVgiy
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB - bit.ly/3CSaMCj
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj
What's more impressive are the temps, they are very respectable.
well yeah when you cripple the wattage going to the processor.... My 14700K draws more power than that.
Oh so that's what they are doing.@@kamelionify
You sure this was tested on 1080p with 4090? I just checked witcher 3. The FPS was minimum 200FPS
just look at the power consumption of these two processors....
and this is me lowering the voltage on the i9 some more.
the electricity bill will be expensive this month
HOW THE FUCK DOES RE4 MAKE THE CPUS GO ALL THE WAY TO 270W
GPUS*@@flamingophone
@@flamingophone thats the gpu lmaoo
Wow! Crazy difference!! 😮
370€ vs 730€
83W vs 210W
Intel fell asleep for 10 years
CPU isn't only made for gaming
@@willy7968 then there's the 7950X3D
@@willy7968 go on, reply to the 2nd comment - we are waiting for you. ;)
@@shuyaku99 lol i've heard that 7950x is better than x3d version hahaha, not because it have x3d at the end means it is faster haha x3d is super hot haha
less wattage > less heat > smaller rad or aio > even cheaper ( and no overheat issue like 14 gen )
That cpu power consumption of 7800x3d 😮
The key is: Tsmc. Not shit crap intel.
Literally half, insane !
@@furieux6742 Tsmc will produce a mobile cpus for intel. Intel just cant compete anymore.
7800X3D be like: work smarter not harder.
instead of increasing power draw, they added more cache.
@@notenjoying666 No, they only produce a part of Intel's CPU, most of the parts are manufactured by Intel on the 7 nm process and the rest is processed by tsmc on the 5 nm or 3 nm process, it's not like Intel can't compete with them. AMD is just stuck with 10 nm because there are still too many undeveloped DUV machines to break even on investment. If they give up self-production or their first chips will be processed by tsmc, then AMD will be the loser. have trouble
7 7800X3D undoubtedly the best gaming cpu.
I kinda regret not buying it but i already have 5800X3D in my PC from last year. I think ill be alright a few more years
@@Ladioz If you already got that one, you don't need to upgrade for now.
AMD lose - 0.1% 1% . You're too stupid to call the 7800X3D the best gaming CPU today.
However 14900KS can work with high speed DDR5, upto 8000MHz, so it's better to test it with 7600+MHz memory, Ryzen can't work with it.
@@Ladiozyou are good for next 7 years
4:41 damn that i9 is drawing 212 watts
Absolutely disgusting.
E cores my butt.
It's not even doing anything to save power!!!
Yeah 5$ more if you play 10h/day and 30days/month. So in 100 months you will save money for new proc. Logic of AMDeep guys 💪🤦♂️🤣
@@catalinneculita4988 go back to school! you failed math!
@@ICRA7EDamdeeper detected :))
4:50
AMD = 83W
INTEL = 210
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
and dont forget the usage 80% vs 50%. 210 actually half of the max consumption. thats madness :D
Intel al 100% una refrigeración de auto sino se quema o baja potencia consumiendo más de 300 watts una locura
fact)@@umityldrm6355
@@umityldrm6355Based on news, the intel i9 14900ks draws 400W on full load...
@@PanchoGDMKWii isn't 450 Watt under a full load!
The Ryzen 7 7800x3d is also half the price and trades blows with the i9
The price is realy the issue. That said, the i9 is better for productivity tasks... If the i9 was cheaper, we would have a debate on which one is better. I'm sure some people would go for the i9 for PCs they use for gaming and work.
It doesn't. 14900KS will gain 25-30% more with fast ring/tight ddr5 ram. It's undoubtedly faster than 7800x3d in every single way. 7800x3d for normal gamers, 14900KS for people wanting the absolute fastest.
😂😂 Yeah right, Intel fanboy@@HeartOfAdel
@@HeartOfAdel Hardcore copium. 14900ks not getting even 10% increase with faster memory than this. U r literally lying here.
@@notenjoying666 you have no clue what memory/ring tune does on Intel lol. It shows how clueless masses are about overclocking.
It's a generational leap in performance. It scales like crazy.
I only have an example with 9900KS on my channel with bdie, but 14900KS has exactly identical sensitivity if not better.
Nice. I was looking for a ~250w room heater for under $800.
you do know that the temps of the amd are just as hot? lololololol
7800X3D be like: work smarter not harder.
instead of increasing power draw, they added more cache.
More cache doesn't immediately Translate to better performance.
Intel's cache is literally laid out flat on the CCD, making its physical contact farther away from CPU cores-especially P Cores.
AMD's Cache is stacked on top of main CCD cores. Making its physical contact distance shorter. Shorter distance alone already making huge difference in IPC. Because the electrons doesn't have to travel too far away. That's why Overclocking any x3D CPU from AMD will immediately revoke warranty. Because they also create foolproof measure on the CPU die to detect whether or not it's overclocked.
Overclocking CPU for maximum fps is dead anyway
In esports, you cant compare between 400-500fps
and in AAA games CPU is bottlenecked by the GPU anyway @@niezzayt3809
Yup. Great chip. Loving it. Make me laugh the i9 running 20% higher clocks and often consuming more than double the power to match it!!
yeah,7800x3d half the consumption of the intel, and STILL running just as hot.... LOL
I always forgot that Intel still stuck at 10nm and decided to rename it to Intel 7 instead.
It's okay Intel, take your time.
LOL better than calling it 10nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
maybe still 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++@@frederickspeller8117
@@frederickspeller8117 intel on 10nm beating AMDs 5nm LMAO that's true circus. AMD wouldn't even touch intel on 5nm 🤣
@@AdiiS the copium is hard
@@AdiiS Wow. I have never seen someone as delusional as you.
70W vs 170W
nono dude 80 vs 200 watt xd
85W vs 210W lmao
4800mhz x 5900! I downgraded to 5ghz (x50) my i9 14900k consumes 80w totally unnecessary 6 ghz
yeah,7800x3d half the consumption of the intel, and STILL running just as hot.... LOL.
The fact that 7800x3d consumes less than 60-80% of power while performing the same if not better says everything you need to know 💀
The Ryzen 7 actually lost for perfomance, it does have the efficency advantage.
The problem with the i9 are the bad voltages and bad scheduling while gaming (Hardware Unboxed showed gaming perfomance and efficency increasing by a lot with APO).
@@saricubra2867 7800x3d is 3% faster than 14900KS on average.
82 Watts vs 212 is madness 🫣
Power consumption is crazy but the 7800x3d lost in most the games...
@@saricubra2867 how bad this aged now people have to use different bios settings to keep ther systems Stable with a Intel 13th and 14th gen so they lose up to 11% performance. Intel is just a joke they take so much money for ther products and from 2010 - 2018 they was bussy scaming people with high prices, without AMD and Radeon we will sit here with 4cores 8 threads for 400 or 600$
Ryzen 7 7800x3d - the best gaming CPU for a new PC building
Ryzen 7 5800X3D - the best gaming CPU, who don't want upgrade AM4 socket to AM5.
Intel i9 14900KS - not for gamers choice.
5800X3D is too expensive. Might as well buy a new mobo, DDR5 RAM and a 7500f for a little bit more and get the same performance. At least then you still have an upgrade path. 5800X3D should be 200$ MAX based on it's performance.
AMD this is not a processor for PC.
@@mikehawk6918upgraded from 5900 x to 5800x3d and i have more fps everywhere its a beast and not that expensive
@@mikehawk6918 new mobo new ram, 5800x3d right now isnt that expensive, basically like when 5600x was launched priced.
i9 is not for any choices, it is a shame what intel price this cpu at.
If someone is building a new pc, I would recommend to build a AM5 system. Much better for gaming and good upgrade path!
and save huge power usage
yeah, I've upgraded in the end of last year
Brokies
@@RohanSanjith Yk intel sucks ? AM5 way better lga 1700 is dead
Low iq 😂 @@RohanSanjith
How userbenchmark will spin this as a win for Intel?
This is the most important question.
Haha. So true. You can compare 2 GPUs or CPUs at a similar price point and have the AMD one ahead by a mile but it will still be described as a piece of sh*t at the bottom of the benchmark. Proper fanboy site😂
"In a time of record inflation, the high power consumption and temperatures of the 14900KS will both provide entertainment and heating to the user, something that Advanced Marketing Devices's 7800X3D and its "3D Cache" can only dream to accomplish" or something I suppose ? XD
There is a dude in here already commented i5 13400 would get the same result against 7800x3d 🤣, so hilarious.
@@hquan1roflmao, that's a good one !
I don't think I ever red a userbenchmark review, this seems like the best time to do it 😂
It's like Intel brings a gun to a knife fight but also brings the wrong ammunition every time.
2X power consumption
1 GHz higher Clock
+16 Cores
almost twice the cost
No upgrade path
5% slower
Edit - Needs a 360mm AIO to run it
360? You think 75 degrees WHILE GAMING is okay? Imagine any workload on it... 420 minimum...
@@notenjoying666nah a quality 360 is enough. But still too much lol
1. Destroys it in multi threading.
2. Destroys it in PC snappiness and latency
3. Destroys it in gaming with fast tuned ddr5 (can do 25-30% better than here)
4. Literally destroys it in everything speed related besides horrendous efficiency and price.
But you gotta pay for the fastest.
@@HeartOfAdeldestroys it in gaming?
Wut are you smoking?
am talking about gaming, don't care about multitasking at this price.
Its a glorified 13900k
@@ArnikoGiri can you read bro? With fast tuned ddr5 and tuned ring clocks. They'll give a ton more fps to that chip, xmp is absolutely crap for a i9 KS cpu.
Thanks for this Video, i just ordered my 7800X3D & 4080 Super!
7800x3d👍
14900ks👎
Ryzen 7 7800X3D = 70 watt Core i9 14900KS = 150 watt 1:23
Facts
In my country it is not worth buying an Intel processor because of the high electricity costs
@@vovapapi-sk2zgin cyberpunk test, i9 14900ks consumes up to 187w (2:50) and starfield 205w (5:06) 💀
but bruh , the 14900ks has a whole 100 mhz more then the 14900k BRUH you have to get it
Ryzen cpu easy win here vs intel engine
but what video did you see? ok that the i9 consumes three times as much, but you can't say that the ryzen beats the intel... ok it's more convenient because it costs half as much and consumes 3 times less but the i9 is superior. In some games Ryzen beats it, but Intel won by a lot... then forget one thing... AMD is real shit for programs and heavy work, it's only good on games, while Intel is not only sensational on games, but it's the best for working with... so leaving aside consumption and price intel i9 14900ks is the best processor around currently... amd is only for games, intel for everything.
@@__Francesco__bla bla bla blab blah *intel fanboys after realizing there are 3-4 billion gamers on the planet and editors and people doing works are way way way less
thanks to the 7800x3D, I can use air coolers like the Noctua L9x65. 90mm fan, no AIO
BRUH THAT TEMP AND WATTAGE ON 14900KS ☠☠☠
I'll give you wattage. But the 7800x3D is equally as hot lmao.
@@SSJBen Nah. 14900k is hotter 90% of the time. And 7800x3d is using 2 times smaller node 10nm vs 5nm so its 2 times harder to cool it. +as author said he undervolted 14900ks so yeah...💀
@@SSJBen, awwww butt hurt Intel fanboy trying to make yourself feel better by saying , look they are equally hot , do you sob a lot looking at these benchmarks Intel always loosing , lol
@@notenjoying666 Intel is done for
@@SSJBen this tester channel is intard fan boy, he use his best cooler for 14900ks and stock for 7800x3d but 87800x3d still cooler lmao
14900KS = Extreme Overclockers
14900K = Productivity
7800X3D = The Ultimate Gaming Experience
Howewer memory oc record was made on amd am5 platform.
just mind you in no way 5900ghz has same perf as 4800mhz no matter how stacked that 3d cache is
I don't quite get all the negative comments on intel.
14900k is not focused on gaming. It does a good job ALSO at gaming but is a productivity and multi-tasking monster. 7800x3D is a gaming CPU with all of it's 8 cores available for 3D v-cache. It has a crazy 96Mb of L3 cache and it is also advertised as a gaming processor.
It has one primary purpuse and does the job extremely well.
7800x3D - 10/10 for gaming and 7/10 for productivity
14900k - 9/10 for gaming and 10/10 for produvtivity
7950x3D - 9.5/10 for gaming and 8.5/10 for productivity (it also has 8 cores for v-cache, like 7800x3D but requires more fiddling to get all the cores active for games, 7800x3d is plug and play, but in the end it gets similar performance as 7800x3d, perhaps 1% lower results on average).
This is the reason why 14900k is 3x the price of 7800x3D...because it can also do much more stuff that is not related for gaming.
If you are like me and you are building a PC tower solely for gaming purpuse, get 7800x3D and save some money.
As an XOC guy myself I would like to share a few words of my own first this guy has paired the 14900ks with ddr5 6000 which is not the highest speed ram which it can support unlike the r7 7800x3d which would not even show any difference with any faster ram because its already reached the limits of the infinity fabric so by this what I want is while the 7800x3d is paired with the fastest possible ram it can support which would actually make a difference the 14900ks on the other hand is not so just to make this comparision a little bit more even pair it with atleast ddr5 7200 also you've told that you have undervolted the 14900ks and with my experience with overclocking and also undervolting the 14900ks it works best with the voltage it comes out of the box with about 1.4V if you try to downclock or undervolt this cpu it will make it perform worse undervolting the 14900ks only makes sense if you don't have enough cooling capacity but then why even bother buying the 14900ks also you've told us absolute nothing about which motherboard you are using for the r7 since mobos could make a difference too that matters as well and lastly it is the SP of the cores of both of the processor you've got that matters also your i9 might have worse cores that other i9's and your r7 might have better cores from other r7's and from all this I don't necessairly mean that either one of them is worse the 7800x3d is the best processor for gaming both in it's price point and from AMD andis meant more for consumers who plays games more than tinkering with settings in bios while 14900ks is meant for enthusiast like myself who like bios and making and breaking records more than playing games but what I'm saying is the 7800c3d is paired with the best it could support while the 14900ks is not and one last more thing which I would like to add is that $749 pricetag might not be worth it to consumers but to us it is I mean almost
PS- r7 7800x3d is the best gaming processor for normal consumers while the 14900ks is the best gaming processor for enthusiasts although it was not meant to be a gaming processor but rather some to break oc records on
PPS- don't mind any mistakes in it, it was a handful typing this
Edit: also I see people in the comments taking about power consumption and to that I would say the reason intel processor in whole not only consumes more power but also performs worse than they were meant to is cuz they are on an older processor node compared to AMD and now I know many people will say why pay more for an older process node so that's a whole other debate topic which I don't even wanna get into
Edit 2- Y'all don't say I don't even own a 14900ks to begin with I've got 8 of em yes 8 I bought 8 to test those 8 14900ks's seperately and then keep the one with the best silicon or the god bin one and sell the others to my homies for cheaper
Agreed on the RAM Speed being a Handicap for Intel but at least lets agree that the efficiency for the work is ridiculously low.. 50% Usage at 210watts vs 80% Usage at 85watts? I am sorry but the intel is only good at winning OC contests that affect 0.001% of the population for everything else is a horrible pick over AMD.
To start, this comparison IS fair to have the same ram speed. Letting the intel have faster speed is very clearly not making it fair LOL. 4 months ago eTeknix released a video comparing the i9-14900k with the 7800x3d and albeit its a 14900k and not 14900ks, your theory about memory speed was proven wrong on nearly every title he tested (42) especially when it came to 4k resolution. The 7800x3d managed to beat the 14900k in most titles using 7600mhz cl38 ram for both cpus, which performed worse on the amd than the 6000mhz cl30 ram it prefers. Also, theres games that benefit from 6000mhz+ ram speed on the 7800x3d, that is not the max speed it can support. The 7800x3d is the best gaming cpu PERIOD. If you have to spend 2.5x as much, draw 2-3x the power, run 25% faster ram and generate 2-3x the heat just to perform equal or 1% better in gaming, you lost. the 14900ks is the best for overclocking records like you said but if its for gaming go x3d. ruclips.net/video/-Wkr3FV50xI/видео.html video for reference
1% lows are very close. Thanks for providing, lots of these types of videos leave it out.
The 7800x3D sometimes has higher temps, interesting. I guess accessing the 3D cache generates a lot of heat?
smaller chip = more energy in a smaller area = higher temperature. intel has large chips in comparision and can easier remove heat
Yes my 7800x3d can sometimes get to near thermal throttle temp on an air cooler (but doesn't reach throttle).
And AMDs heatspreader is too thic
The 3dv cache, the way is stacked, makes it harder to cool. I currently have a 5800x3d, and yes you need good cooling.
I got 40 degrees idle, 50 degrees just browing.
Starfield with intel 14900ks power consumption: am i joke to You? 😂😂😂 Buahahahaaha
that intel power wattage makes me cry in european
You gotta add the power to end graphs. The dif is nuts
7800x3d is a real gift to gamers
half the price intels top stuff for same performance on average
half the power draw so you can get cheaper mobo
does not heat up like the sun so you can get a air cooler
You know the B650 boards also work well woth R9s.
@@xXXEnderCraftXXx no shiit sherlock
Power Consumption: 2.25x
Price: +$300
Performance: Almost the same
Conclusion: Core i9-14900KS is a waste of silicon, money and power. Just buy a 13900K (or 7950X/3D) if you want high multithreaded performance with great gaming performance. If you don't care about that, 7800X3D is the way to go.
7800X3D is faaaar superior for 1/2 the price. Amazing. This was the first time in over 2 decades I built a RIG with AMD and not Intel. And I don’t think I’m looking back.
Even though AMD is not good at graphics cards, it shows that it is the best when it comes to processors.
Be careful you're gonna get attacked by the rampant AMD Radeon fanboys now 😂
How are they not good in graphic cards? Literally the second best gaming graphic card is made by AMD...😉
@@justsayno1734 It is not. When accounting for features, power draw and RT performance, the 4080 Super is just the better card overall out of the two. I wouldn't look at RX 7900 XTX right now, it made sense only when the 4080 was $1200+, but right now the 4080 Super just killed it. BUT I agree saying AMD is not good at GPUs is pretty stupid.
@@justsayno1734 a wise man would not look at ONLY the gaming performance but the WHOLE gpu itself, if AMD offers good software support and gpu features like Nvidia then AMD Radeon wouldn't have to deal with their low marketshare but until then Nvidia will keep dominating the gpu marketshare
I think when you look at used prices for recent nvidia cards, it’s really pretty price competitive with the AMD stuff. But the features and driver support are way, way ahead. They’re even moving away from the clunky old nvidia control panel with the new nvidia app beta.
You should include wattage useage in these for the final result.
Processador monstruoso esse ryzen 7800x3d a eficiência energética é o que maia chama atenção nele! Verdadeiro Rei do games!
It wasnt enough that already the 7 7800x3d beats the 14900KS while being 60% the price and using 40% of the power, but windows just rolled an update that boosts ryzen 7000 series by around 10%
60W de consumo con el 7800X3D 😮, Una bestia de CPU
siiiii
I was going to make a ‘best $360 I ever spent joke’, but I l realized that could be interpreted both ways because of the insane price difference here.
Waiting DirectSr plus a few patches later. Besides long term usage favors x3d , even not mention power consumption.
14900kW
😂
7800x3d, 4090 is the best combo right now.
Get ddr5 7600mhz + for i9 or any other intel 12gen and up and test it again. You will have to see difference, or even ddr4 4000mhz + with tight timings. Why do all of these youtube benchmarkers underestimate ram speed when it comes to intel, just why 😮💨.
Cause they are like the mainstream youtube reviewers. Dont have a clue about memory tuning.
intel apo with advanced settings changes the situation in a profound way
Two years ago it was amd crying use faster ram, now it's Intel fans wanting the fast ram... 2% better frame rates and spend 60 bucks more.for a kit or ram.
Intel lost this round. It's ok. KS chips are going to need a car radiator to keep them cool not thermal throttling.
@@robertbolzicco9995 Intel Apo is the way
+30% Rainbow six
+20% Meteo Exodus
@@gabrielebarreca1335 those numbers aren't adding up in this video. Seems like a cherry picked % also it's twice the price and twice as hot.
I know you are trying to compare apples to apples, but I am pretty sure that allowing the Intel processor to run with its maximum memory speed be it 7200, 8000 or 8400 would alter the FPS read out that you are showing here. I am sure that handicapping the Intel processor, based on the memory speed limitations of the AMD processor is the right thing to do, but you might want to make another video that shows "tweaked versions" of both of these processors at their maximum potential. This sort of testing reminds me of putting 87 octane gas on a cammed turbo vehicle, and hearing Scotty saying, "I've given her all she's got captain."
As a Intel fan i am disappointed
Well done amd
Why are you a fan btw ? It's a corporation that makes computer hardware , what's up with brand loyalty , so stick to a company that hasn't produced a decent cpu since 2017 how does that benefit you ?
AMD , Intel , Nvidia or any other company are just corporations, no need for brand loyalty , they won't thank you for it , but if you vote with your wallet you get better computer parts for less .
What's up with this fanboyism.
@@skywalker1991 Well being a "fan" of a brand can result from earlier experiences when e.g. brand A products worked flawlessly for you while brand B caused problems.
I am mainly playing simulator games and I was surprised to see that AMD's chip performs better in MSFS. It used to be Intel IIRC a few months/year ago? I am an intel user (an old 9800X from the now stopped X series) and seriously start to consider AMD as an upgrade.. I am not interested in overclocking as I live in hot country (during summer months) so this is an extra plus point for switching to AMD. Only thing is I've seen in YT that there are some issues with some combinations of certain mobos with AMD cpus they can slowly cook/fry the cpu (and even the mobo itself) even on stock settings.. Intel platforms were traditionally more robust and stable and cpus could not be damaged easily even under OC..
And intel claims amd is selling snake oil 😂
So glad I ordered the 7800 last week.
that power consumption 🤣, absolute shintel
Seeing the AMD CPU at half the price while also consuming half the power and still being within 8 FPS in every single game is just insane.
Performance of these CPUs is similar because of GPU bottleneck. Based on fact that I9-14900KS is under lower usage by 20%-30% than 7800X3D with the same fps, I9-14900KS seems to give much more fps than 7800X3D when both used on 100%. AMD fanboys just err. Not so easy lol.
@@ForzaHorizon5Player_ based on total utilization. The 14900ks has 3x the cores and 2x the threads over the 7800x3D. I would absolutely expect utilization to be lower. With 20/30% lower utilization and consuming considerably more power, that's not a good result at all. Intel fanboys I guess.
would also like to know idle power and temps on those
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Usually intel is better at idle power, but they still need to work on full load efficiency
Intel is under 10W idling while Ryzen is around 30W
An 14900ks made by TSMC will be insane
Next 15th gen made by tsmc
I would like to see the same benchmark with Intel Apo(Application optimisation) active in advanced mode to see the difference.
Intel has become what AMD was years ago, extremely high power consumption cpus just to be able to compete and still falls short.
It's because Meteor Lake (true 14th gen ) was a failure and they have to keep older tech on the market.
@@lharsay Intel sucks since skylake. 4690k was the latest rly good and insane intel cpu. Everything after it was a complete mess.
@@notenjoying666 I think 8th gen, 10th gen and 12th gen were good.
@@lharsay Good call brah. 9900k and 10700k were too similar but 10700 was more power efficient. 11th gen was lame af.
Averaging the average of each game
7800X3D - 156.9FPS - 99.87%
14900KS - 157.1FPS - 100%
*14900KS is .13% higher fps*
Averaging the c.pwr at the end of the test (when it starts to fade)
7800X3D - 66.4W
14900KS - 170.8W
*14900KS uses 2.57x more power(+104.4W)*
Lowest retail price in US (5/3/24)
7800X3D - $358.99
14900KS - $663.99
*14900KS costs 1.84 times more(+$305)*
Double the power. Double the price. Same performance.
What a deal!
Yup Intel lost it plain, but I do agree the Intel 12th gen i5 12400F, 12600K and 13600K were worth the money paid for em as they were able to be at par or better than AMD CPUs in same price park.
Natty lifter with elite genetics = 7800x3d
Juiced lifter with bad genetics = 14900ks
only in gaming, in every other productivity application it's the complete opposite
@@STXNCIC And remember its 1080p Testing lol not 1440p
@@officialyashvirgaming when did I say it was 1440p?
@@STXNCIC but the 1400ks cost nearly twice as much...
I have a 7900X with my 4090 and my game room stays so hot because of it is almost unbearable. I just ordered a 7800x3d to replace the 7900x and am really looking forward to the lower power draw and reduced heat problems, plus a slight boost in frames and elimination of stuttering due to only having one CCD. I will hang on to the 7900x in case i need to build a productivity system in the future. Its a great CPU but less than ideal for gaming and a monster for power draw.
yo brother, could you compute the Averages for all the games combined, please?
for both the Avg fps and the lows! thanks a bazillion!!!
Warzone using 24gb vram 💀💀
"allocated" not actively using
Warzone allocates all of your VRAM to prevent lag
Warzone seems to do it with any card not just the 4090 even if you'll use 6700 xt on 1090 you will qllpcate very close to it and 1440p you'll allocate 12 gb vram so I guess they have a point here.
I've been happy with my i7-12700K (upgrade from 7700K), but if next year's GPU upgrades + AMD CPU keep trending upwards with Intel just...doing re-releases...I might actually consider fully rebuilding around an AMD board. The stability is nuts too for AMD, maintaining sub 80W...that's impressive and means cooling + PSU becomes much less of an issue in terms buying parts.
When u test solo games i would love to see the performance on 1440p.maybe 4k cause these builds are made for 4k and 2k res imo. I know is a comparison between these 2 in the cpu intensive scenes when u test on 1080p u mainly testing for lows 0.1% in competitive games but for solo players 0.1% matters less. Average fps and 1% lows wich are minim fpses without stutter that's what concers us more.
They test it at 1080p with a 4090 to artificially create a cpu limited scenario to highlight differences between CPUs. For solo games at 1440p and 4k, it's a GPU limited scenario where there is no difference between all last gen CPUs. So take the cheapest AM5 CPU and you'll be fine for a few years and be able to upgrade to another generation later. Buying high end cpu for solo gaming is usually a waste of money.
@@palapapa1510 no it is bs 1080p for 14900ks and 7800x3d ? what a joke, you will be suprised how much better the Ryzen run with how much better FPS then the i9 in higher resolutions.
The 14900KS is a CPU for enthusiasts who OC it to 6.3 GHz on liquid cooling and run 8800 MT/s DDR5 memory. But for everyone else, the 7800X3D is great.
Damn
you can use higher ram speed with 14900ks to gain more fps since that cpu is for overclocking also
AMD Win
It's 3x more expensive,, drain 2-3x more watts and sometimes deliver few % more FPS... but not always... GOOD JOB INTEL!
Nobody with i9 would go with just 6000MHz RAM though. At minimum they'd get 7200MHz, but probably closer to 8000MHz.
More money for extra 1-2% fps and 200w for power consumption?
@@enginex99 If you knew anything you'd know its way more than just 1-2% FPS boost in CPU bound scenarios. Sure, 7800X3D makes most sense for most people. But its a lie to try and claim 14900K/KS doesn't beat it.
Most of 14900k's cant run stable even at 7800. 7600 is the fastest anyone can rly run, anything above is a silicon lottery.
Also you can oc memory on amd, and tighten up the timings.
@@notenjoying666 you can run the i9 on 8400mhz stable and can amd also do 6.4 ghz like the 14900ks p cores? i dont think so.
@@michagysin3082 Only if you get a good 14900ks chip. Reddit is full of posts where people cant even boot with 8000 xmp profile.
Holy cow the differences in those 1% but especially the .01% lows are huge from one to the other.
14900ks uses more than the double power to deliver the same or less performance and is more than twice as expensive.
But 14900ks is amazing for productivity, where the 7800x3d lacks.
If you're building only for gaming, DEFINITELY 7800X3D WINS.
Could AMD in general be decent enough for productivity when needed?
@@leonardog.2491 absolutely! You can do many different tasks.
I currently have 7800x3d running.
And I'm using unity as well as blender, and it runs smoothly no issues whatsoever. But if you're a graphic designer, it might not be the best option for you.
That 3D V-cache is really giving a tough time to intel flagship..
2x and in some cases 3x the power consumption on intel part.
Intel really needs to answer 3D V-cache
intel is dead
The problem is bad scheduling on the i9s, Hardware Unboxed did some tests and increased gaming perfomance by 30% and halved the power consumptio through APO
True.. Intel really needs a 3d vcache competitor or they will lose. Already losing and dying in market share for desktop pc, now with epyc destroying xeon and no one buying arc I don’t see a future in Intel lol
@@pravnav i agree with you 100% bro
I don't get it. In the majority of tests like Hardware-Unboxed or TechpowerUp, the 7800X3D has a better AVG and 1% low than the i9 14900K. Why is it the other way round in your tests?
RAM Speed being equal on Both handicap Intel so this is best case scenario for AMD.
7800X3D can only support 6000mhz memory while the 14900KS can do over 8000mhz.
So if you artificially handicap the 14900KS to slow speed (Its rather slow for it) RAM you have these results.
If he acctually used the i9 to its full potential its better. It can use 7200+ mt/s ram which is way higher than the 7800x3d.
If Sony and MS don't use x3d chip in their new consoles, I will be very disappointed.
Refresh vs technology
Damn Intel has fallen HARD,
It doesn't make sense compared to the 78x3d it's working about half as hard being roughly 50% underutilized,
it temps are ok some times Little bit higher/ lower then the 78x3d,
but the major concern is it's power consumption like twice the power for 4 more fps is nuts.
Ik it's not gonna happen but I hope that Arrow lake is at least more efficient than its 14th gen predecessor
If your main goal is just to game go for 3d chips... If you want overall performance and you have no such thing as a budget intel is an better option
or you can get a 7950X3D for that?
Better Gaming Performance
Lower Power Consumption
Lower Temperature
Similar multicore performance
Went from a I9-9900k to the 78003DX when it released and im extremely happy with it, including the RTX 4070 TI. Playing on a 3440x1440 OLED
And the 7800x3d is half the price of the Intel 14900ks. Unbelievable.
Something is wrong with the mw3 benchmark, the fps drops indicates instability for the 14900ks. Is the ram correctly tuned?
yeah... at this point intel isn't for games anymore
Ryzen 7800X3D wins this battle, but the 14900KS still has excellent gaming performance and is a productivity monster, albeit, with horrible power efficiency. Intel must step up to the plate with 15th-generation Arrow Lake and performance per watt power efficiency against AMD's Zen 5 platform. The 7800X3D is the better investment for most gamers.
You know that you can overclock the amd one and get more performance right?
Double the power draw and price and 5-8° hotter while still being slower is crazy
I luv my 7800x3d. I upgraded from an Intel 5820k. Electric bill a little happier now.
About 2 weeks ago I bought brand new PC with r7 7800x3d in it. Speechless.
What Motherboard and GPU?
@@TheShadiboy1 Gigabyte aorus elite b650 ax and RTX 2060 SUPER (very soon will upgrade to 4070 super)
14900KS is strongest intel CPU not meant for gaming, as they do not get any increase from i5/i7. You should compare this AMD to i7-14700KF instead.
Better performance with 1/3rd power consumption and price. 7800x3d all day long
In principle, there is parity among processors) in the end everyone will take what their heart desires)
one big thing i noticed is, in the tests the AMD cpu is always around 50% or higher utilization, whereas the intel is as low as 21% at some spots meaning it seems to have a LOT more overhead implying both sides are really just GPU bottle necked
80fps in Hogwarts Legacy with RTX 4090 and this 2 absolute beast CPU in fc**** 1080p...
The 7800X3D is not only better but it has better upgrade path.
Well... this video confirms me in my decision in getting a 7800x3d. And that is someone saying who only used Intel since I got my first PC, 26 years ago. 🙊
From the 13900K, it took 3 attempts for Intel to beat the 7800X3D in raw performance. That too with 2x the power consumption, and it costing 2x more, for just 2 FPS higher. Safe to say, the 14900KS should NOT be bought for gaming.
Power consumption is just amazing. Intel needs couple of years to catch AMD technology.
unless it's a specific comp game that squeezes slightly more fps with intel or u do productivity work, there's no reason to not get a 7800x3d for gaming specifically. Far cheaper, mobos are also cheaper, way less power consumption which also makes cooling easier and very stable i might add lol.
Who tf buys an other CPU for gaming than the 7800 x3d over 350 bucks ?
Good evening. It's practically 2.5 times more energy consumption to get almost the same FPS in starfield.
it does use around 100w less
@TestingGames A comparison could be handy of how much money had been used on electricity, let's say per half an hour or hour of gameplay on AMD and Intel CPUs.