FYI, between 44:00 - and 45:00 in this video (specifically at 44:10) near the intersection of S Radio Rd. and Reuter Rd. (10th Street), Tim and Paul Samaras and Carl Young are killed.
There is a lot of data on most of the stormchasers that were on this storm as they use GPS tracking along with multiple videos of timestamp data, plus all of the data that the NWS and SPC provided. Gabe Garfield from NWS Norman has a great video explaining this, and also Skip Talbot has what is arguably the best analytical video of any tornado ever. He has overlays, GPS data, radar data as well as multiple videos spliced in. It show chaser locations, distance to circulation, distance to storm center where the storm was - basically everything pertinent to the people involved as well as the storm. Jim Burgan, while being morbid, is 100% correct. It's over an hour, but it's incredibly well put together and the information he has made available is staggering. ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
K.M. RN It’s validated. There are some other videos on RUclips which will provide you with some very detailed information. You may find it particularly interesting. Because all of these chasers have handled video cameras, dashboard cameras, and GPS, an extremely detailed, minute-by-minute timeline analysis of where everyone was located was created. Here is the link to that particular video. I highly recommend checking it out. ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
K.M. RN -> I have studied this event more than any other tornado (with the possible exception of the Palm Sunday 1965 Outbreak) and, while I was not chasing this event, I feel reasonably certain my information is correct. As others have stated, this is one of the most studied event in tornado history, and Skip’s video is a must-see for those interested.
They're both good at what they do. There are also a lot of excellent meteorologists in other markets that do very good jobs as well. St Louis has very good meteorologists that have tracked quite a few large tornadoes some of which have tracked right through the metro and there have been very few fatalities.
Yeah it's pretty incredible to re-watch this and other broadcast and 4 + 2 be as good as he is consistently with reading radar, especially when he sang going to go all over the place, I'm paraphrasing but it's not going to to follow a normal path and to watch it.
Will never forget this day. I lived in El Reno the sky was a perfect sunny clear blue sky around 1pm and a couple hours later it went dark outta nowhere. Never seen that much rain and flooding. We went to the shelter at the hospital but man looking back, the actual town of El Reno dodged a major bullet. If the Tornado was a few miles north we would’ve been wiped out.
I live just a little NE of Duncan out in the boonies and this system started out right by us. Tornado wasn’t quite on the ground yet but you couldn’t tell, it shook the whole house. My son was only a month old at the time and I’ve never been more scared in my life
The Sky absolutely fascinates me! I get to see the clouds over the Front Range, and watch the NEXRAD Radar returns to see what it's gonna do. It seems at times the storms that start up on the Front Range over Denver are the genesis of the severe storms in Tornado Alley. 🌪🌩🌧🌬🌫
28:25 "It's not moving!!!" Right. We here in RUclips have a saying for that. If you're looking at a tornado and it's not moving, you're in the path and it's coming straight at you. Lesson learned: Don't argue with the meteorologist who has access to a real-time Doppler radar.
Yeah I almost got mesmerize at a tornado(it wasn't that strong EF-1) and all of a sudden it look like it didn't move but my friend from Oklahoma (I was in Florida) if it doesn't look like it's moving its coming towards my ass so I snap out of it and went to a Winn-Dixie.
It's unbelievable to realize that the width of the tornado near El Reno was 2.6 miles wide. This KWTV weather team did an outstanding job keeping citizens updated.
The way Gary England controls the storm chasers is incredible. They try to yell over each other and get the view on it first, and Gary is trying to get calm, clear, and concise information to the public.
TIMMER had the hood of his vehicle ripped off by the storm. His crew also were the first ones tothe Weather Cannels SUv after it got rolled. Channel 4storm chase team nearly had a really bad day. EMILY Sutton one of there other storm spotters, had her back windows blown out at the same time the storm was crossing Hwy 81 there,
@@sukhastings4200 That powerline ripping Dominator's hood off most likely saved Reed's life, bc he was on same route where Twistex was, slightly behind them, actually.
28:02 Gary England called it. He could see on radar what so many seasoned storm chasers couldn’t read on the ground. That is because this tornado was so huge and traveled in a very irregular path.
Englund was incorporating the chasers’ video feed into his interpretation of the radar, which is often a bit slower than real time. He is a Legend in Tornado Alley.
The more panicky the one guy gets at 12:00, the more calm Gary gets. Gary is like, "Yup, it's right there. I've seen monsters like this before." Pretty calm and collected, focused, all the good stuff...
I stumbled upon this this video. Born and raised, Oklahoman here. I can't tell you the respect Oklahoma has for Gary England. He is hands down the best and we were so lucky to have him. I believe this was his last year at News 9. This coverage takes my breath away and tears are just streaming down my face. The anniversary of this tornado 🌪 is today.
A moment of silence for Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras, Carl Young, and Richard Henderson; the 4 seasoned storm chasers among the 8 deaths in this tornadic tragedy May they chase fairer winds in the life beyond
@@TheNekoMimiGamer unfortunately there may never be another show like it again as it's too risky and causes regular folks to go out and hunt tornadoes.
@@Crooked_Wien Sad. But at least you guys have Damon Lane at KOCO Channel 5. In an episode of a show on The Weather Channel called "Tornado Alley: Real Time Tornado" that profiled the Moore, Oklahoma tornado on May 20, 2013; Damon talked about how he was juggling two roles that day: chief meteorologist and husband.
@@hookedonreactions7649 I understand. Even though I am from Ohio I would want to watch Mike Morgan at KFOR Channel 4 on days where the weather will be good and Damon Lane at KOCO Channel 5 when severe weather strikes. Though I admit that if I was a college student at the University of Oklahoma in Norman and studying meteorology; I would be torn between either Damon or Mike when it comes time to decide which TV station I should apply for an internship.
@@michaellovely6601 Morgan’s degree is in geosciences, not meteorology, which was an option. I don’t know why he didn’t major in meteorology but he didn’t. There’s a RUMOR that he was kicked out of the meteorology program for cheating but I think it’s more likely that he couldn’t handle the math. Meteorology was originally a sub major for a mathematics degree so it’s pretty intense. No shame in that. Probably 10 years or so ago we (OKC) were told that there was a potential for pretty significant severe weather later in the week, all local stations do that. They also update as it gets closer. So the day comes and Morgan starts hyping the risk like chicken little, even had a name for it, I don’t remember now what it was, something like ‘tornado battleground’. But none of the other stations were really hyping it at that point. More or less just saying conditions had changed and while an isolated tornado might occur, there was little chance of an outbreak. I’m not sure it even rained. Some people prefer the chicken little approach but I don’t. He wouldn’t be who I would choose, I’d go with Lane.
15:20 behind the small funnel is the big, dark one that is difficult to see. 16:33 Val has the better view. The right side of his picture is the big one. Sometimes people don’t know what they are looking at.
Since the rating was discussed in the description, I feel obliged to comment. We use damage as a proxy indicator of tornado strength because we rarely have accurate measurements of actual windspeeds. To rate a tornado by where it hits (rural or populated) is completely useless, because that is purely chance, and we would just say that it's hitting a rural or populated area. The whole point of the EF Scale is to rate tornadoes by their capability to cause damage (i.e. wind speeds), which is a useful measurement. We KNOW this tornado had winds near 300 mph, so we know it COULD cause EF5 damage, but by chance, it did not. It should have been rated EF5.
The point of the EF scale is to rate tornadoes by the damage they cause, as it is a damage rating indicator. Where the problem is in the rating is coupling an estimated wind speed to the damage. If the Enhanced Fujita scale was simply a damage assessment rating, then the El Reno 2013 tornado is properly rated as an EF3, as that was the damage it left behind. For trying to determine the tornado's strength after the event, this works. Where you run afoul with this system is when you have a mobile Doppler radar system actively measuring winds within the tornado. In this case, mobile Doppler reading has the tornado clocked at around 300mph. Even if those were taken at a higher elevation and winds are typically 40mph less at the surface, this still puts El Reno at around 250-260mph. We know if that tornado hit structures with that wind speed, we wouldn't be discussing the EF rating, as it would clearly be an EF5 tornado. While it didn't do EF5 damage, to say that El Reno was a tornado that generated an estimated wind speed of 165mph (due to its EF3 rating) is sending the message that this tornado was not at the level of severity as the Moore 2013 tornado that occurred ten days earlier, when, clearly it had the potential. I believe to resolve this debate is to decouple the estimated wind speed from the Enhanced Fujita scale. Keep the EF rating system strictly damage and don't try to tie a wind speed to it. If that doesn't happen, then this situation will occur again, thus rehashing this debate. Or, if decoupling isn't the answer, then we should not try to measure the wind speed of a live tornado and be satisfied with damage results.
It is absolutely crazy how Gary is so smart about super cells and 🌪's!!! Honestly, and I'm not saying this just because of the respect I have for him, but he has a sense and experience only the best of the best have! This is my 3rd or 4th time watching this video! I know Val Castor very well. Which is to say I've seen so many videos of 🌪's and doc's that he has been a part of since the 1990's! Early in the storm (when the tornado is in its infancy) Val & David keep giving updates and have so much adrenaline! They keep trying to get closer, and Gary literally has to yell at them and wake them up to the fact that you NEVER know for sure if a 🌪 is moving or not, and can change in a second! Ironically, that is exactly what was so dangerous about this one, it slowed to a crawl, sped up so fast, you couldn't out run it, and this happened in seconds, out of nowhere, and was without a doubt the most unpredictable and deadly tornado of the last 20 years, maybe EVER! Then later in the video, Gary is trying to name all the counties in it's path, and literally says "this thing could start moving east". Which is exactly what it did! I'm not even halfway through, but wouldn't be surprised if Gary predicted something else, I can't remember for sure. Anyways, the more I watch this video, the more respect I have for Gary and his expertise when it comes to dangerous storms and 🌪's!!! P.S. I remember the broadcast of the 2013 EF5 Moore OK 🌪. He was telling the viewers and anyone in it's path, to either be below ground, or get out of the way if at all possible! He actually said that trying to go in a closet or interior bathroom was most likely not survivable! He was 100% right, and that was a day that set a precedent for future weatherman to make sure they tell the public the truth and what is their best chance for survival!
@@sethcourtemanche5738 maybe theres like most of the tornado is invisible and the condensation is smaller than the actual size so he got trick that the tornado is actually closer then what he thought maybe?
@@sethcourtemanche5738 the El Reno tornado switched directions from East to South. It caught a lot of chasers by surprise. Veteran chasers usually predict where they want to set up to watch the storms at a safe distance. There's an animation of all the chasers on a map scrambling out of the way when the storm changed directions.
I'm a survivor of a EF 4 myself. I have a ton of respect for these men, but Val and all the others talking over each other at times is unbearable. It's still great coverage of a epic storm.
@@nickelodeonstuff1572 First of all; No building is tornado proof, they might be tornado-resistant and really the only buildings that you'd be protected from an EF-4 or EF-5 are Prisons and Large Medical Centers, and even then there's no guarantee you won't be sucked out. Second of all, we aren't talking about Hurricanes, you don't have time to just simply "leave" if you're in the tornadoes path, often these violent tornadoes are rain wrapped making them almost invisible until they're right on top of you, not to mention in the Deep South they can travel as fast as a mile per minute and unlike your vehicle they are subject to the dozens of hazards when driving in a severe storm such as low visibility, other vehicles on the road, sharp turns, blocked roads, etc. That's honestly a pretty ignorant thing to say, I highly doubt you've ever been in a significant tornado event.
@@jaggass Eh. It's a Jan DeBont film. Just grab your popcorn and check your brain at the door. (Same goes for his SPEED films., although Cruise Control is basically unwatchable.
If you live in California, you look at the forecast to decide whether to bring an umbrella or not. In Oklahoma, you look at the forecast to see if you might die.
I have to point out again how Gary tells Val & David they are too close to tornado! It is ironic because it ended up killing 3 famous storm chasers, including Tim Samaras who was known for being extremely cautious and safe. That is just how dangerous this tornado was.
I do not really see a need to talk to the people in the field when there is a helicopter with GPS out there. They know where the tornado is located... there is no need to talk to the storm chasers.
@@VideOH Whenever there are severe storms like this that can cause tornadoes, I personally like hearing there point of view from where they are, but they do over dramatize it sometimes especially David Payne.
@@jakob... I don't think you can over-dramatize a mile-wide, 200+ MPH wind storm capable of annihilating just about everything it comes in contact with.
I remember when the El-Reno tornado happened, it was the last day of sixth-grade year (for me) and my dad picked me up and we went home. But I remember when I got home my mother, father, and me were like shocked and had our eyes glued to the tv. Rewatching this does somewhat shock me, but not like back then when it was like “oh shit, a mega-twister”
We don’t get anything like this in Illinois. I felt extremely concerned for everyone because Moore wasn’t too long before El Reno. I was hoping Moore would’ve been spared this day.
@@FoodMan2001 you forget about the Hillcrest/Fairdale tornado that spun up near Ashton several years back. Was April 9th 2015 I think. An EF4 at its peak that spun up roughly around Ashton Illinois, just narrowly missed the city of Rochelle just clipping the edge of it, destroyed Hillcrest, destroyed Fairdale.
@@FoodMan2001 As others have said, we do get big tornadoes in Illinois too, but not as often as Oklahoma. Look up the tri-state tornado, Roanoke 2004 and Plainfield 1990 too.
I remember a video from a storm chaser looking out the back of their car as they raced away from the tornado and at some point they'll pass Tim's white Chevy Cobalt. They claim it was last confirmed sighting of the trio before their deaths.
I saw that, but I haven't been able to find it again. IIRC a camera pointed toward the back window showed their headlights behind them; when they looked back a few moments later the headlights were gone. The whole sequence is only 5-10 seconds if that long. Update: It's in the "What We Learned from the El Reno Tornado." I think it's the same video that VideOH has linked.
The following video has extensive detail showing where all of the storm chasers, and research scientists were located minute-by-minute during the El Reno tornado. ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
goomba1982 huh? In his footage you can see them disappearing off the road. It was too far away to see the actual vehicle but you can see the headlights
They made a mistake by running a damn cobalt storm chasing. They got into that red clay and got into a bad spot. They didn’t do anything wrong...but damn you have to have 4 all terrain tires spinning with weight to get thru those roads in OK. Loved Tim and Paul and I hate that happened.
Everytime I watched videos of the Reno Tornado. I keep wondering did it not occur to all of them they were actually looking at the Tornado the entire time. Not a Singular Slim Funnel to put it but a Massive WEDGE Monster. Like a land version of a Hurricane. You can't see Hurricanes in a simple perspective unless from Space, but you can see an entire length of sky wall from one to the other. THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AT RENO! All those little funnels they thought were just part of it's outer wall vortex.
@@michaelgonsalves1800 yeah, I actually did some research on the path of this one and you're right allow me to correct myself, if the tornado looks stationary, it USUALLY means it's coming towards you but not always, thanks for pointing that out
This was the day Gary England cemented his legacy as a legend and Mike Morgan’s as a clown. England got this correct from the beginning, he correctly agreed almost immediately with his chasers that the entire wall cloud was on the ground, then he correctly advised people to flee north, into the large hail, but out of the path of the tornado.
Except Mike Morgan’s coverage of this event was better. You can’t understand a damn thing here with these idiots talking over each other. Yes I agree he made a big mistake telling everyone to leave but since channel 9 made David Payne the chief meteorologist I can’t stand them
Morgan telling local residents to get into there cars and flee south was dumb. He should know better. If that twister had paralled i40it would have thron hundreds of vehicles the death toll could have been far worse.
This was a jumbled mess. If you weren't a lifelong tornado alley resident, like me, you would have been confused as shit and thought it was more about them thrill seeking than them disseminating information. This is a joke
My house is right in the area between Yukon @ 6:20 and Bethany @ 6:28 near County Line Rd. Had it not gone south it probably would have hit my house for sure. To this day, it is the only Tornado my family has left the house to get away from. We didn't have a storm shelter then, but we do now.
28:15 is gold lol Gary was not having it with David yelling “GARY GARY GARY” every 20 secs and I think this is where Val somewhat “matured” as a chaser. Gary did everything he could to not lose it.
Working at mustang assisted living that day. We had lots of damage to the building but not the residents or staff. Has caused me PTSD after it all came out.
I'm glad that neither you nor any of your colleagues or the residents of the Mustang Assisted Living Facility were harmed by the tornado that hit El Reno. Just two years earlier firefighters had to pull out residents and staff members of the Greenbriar Nursing Home in Joplin, Missouri following the monstrous EF5 tornado that devastated Joplin on May 22nd, 2011.
I was wishing there was a way to just cut their audio. Like competing children trying to get the attention of their parent. FFS....CALM DOWN!!! ACT like you've been there before...
They did cut their audio of multiple times lol - I remember watching it on air and thinking this is BAD and they're going to start freaking out, which they did lol - to which u told them to not report it unless they saw something and that he knew it was on the ground LoL Ignoring the yelling though, I've been stuck with only AM FM radio when communication was lost and always went between multiple channels so I didn't get nailed by the tornado or hail and they do make a difference and help, even if they are freaking me out, especially if you're kind of used to seeing all these people's lives ruined a year after year, going to help clean up and so on, it really of sucks actually... the only point of this comment originally was just to say did Gary and the people on the others, do tell them to be quiet sometimes, I didn't mean to have it go dark like that LOL sorry
Officially an EF-3 tornado -- Now while some say this is disputed, it is not. The National Weather Service initially had a preliminary rating of EF-5 based on University of Oklahoma Mobile X-Band Doppler Radar measurements, which were in excess of 200 Miles Per Hour (about 400 feet above the surface of the Earth). However, the Enhanced Fujita Scale is a measurement of the *damage* caused by the tornado. Because this tornado remained in primarily rural areas throughout its life cycle, the actual damage was minimal and the structures impacted were not the type of structures you would typically see in a well-built housing development. Due to the minimal nature of the actual damage, the rating of EF-3 was assigned to the El Reno tornado. We can not use measured wind speed estimates from mobile Doppler Radar because there are so few tornadoes with this particular type of data set, and there is no Doppler radar on Earth that can measure wind speed on the surface of the Earth.
Digitalbumpin It’s a top-tier tornado, and is the widest at 2.6mi wide, but not by wind speed. The current record (as of 2019) for “highest measured wind speed by humans near the surface of the Earth” goes to the May 03, 1999 Moore, Oklahoma F-5 Tornado, which had winds measured by a Doppler on Wheels in excess of 300 miles per hour. Approximately 318mph +/- 5mph. It should also be noted that particular wind measurement was not on the surface of the Earth, but about 400 feet aloft.
Initially, it was believed that this particular one did surpass 305 mph. However, it was determined that factoring in all other conditions, it hit around 295+/- 3 mph in the sub-vortex that was believed to have killed Twistex. This same vortex was the one thought to hit the Weather Channel team as well.
For Tim, Paul S, Carl Y and the other stormchaser that passed i believe his name was Richard please correct me if i am wrong. May they all rest in peace.
I remember this storm. As soon as the middle of the storm got to I-35, it turned and went straight south down I-35, almost like it was being controlled somehow. Luckily the tornadic part had ended but the winds threw up so must dust it was like the dust bowl
Gary had a sixth sense about tornadoes. He knew when something was really wrong with one. Imagine if Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras, and Carl Young had been in communication with Gary like this. :(
@@tollboothjason I'm sure when this all was said and done, the guy he warned about that realizes he saved his life right there and kept them from a similar fate.
@@infalliblefowl9809 He most certainly did, this chaser, like many, we’re focused on the sub vortices, not knowing the whole cloud was about to drop and expand the tornado 2.5x what the tornado started as
Haha ... These 2 arguing guys crack me up and I do appreciate them being that way because there is NO Doubt they are telling the truth. If these 2 guys and Mr. England can't get people in their safe places, no one will ... Ever. Thank you guys!
A very violent drillbit tornado with 300+ mph at the surface can easily do EF5 damage. It is really hard to say if this tornado for sure if this tornado would have done EF5 damage. Yes, it was extraordinarily wide and seemed violent but that doesn't always mean everything. I saw the damage from the Bassfield/Soso, MS 2.25 mile-wide high-end EF4 tornado and am sure it was capable of EF5 damage likely in rural areas
Change the scale to represent the strength of the storm, not damage! If this storm had 295mph winds it should've been listed at ef5 not ef3!! Get it right ya'll lives are at stake.
It represents damage because damage is what matters. "Strength" only matters to the looky-lous and adrenaline junkies looking for that "ultimate" storm.
We just do not have enough mobile radars to make near-ground level observation possible. There are only a handful of tornadoes that have the data set this particular one has. It will be one of those EF-3* tornadoes in the books, and the asterisk will speak for itself.
Storm rating doesn"t matter . It falls into play after the storm is over . Only thing they have to convey to the public is that it is a very large and destructive tornado that will kill you if you are not underground or get out of the path of the storm . Any storm can kill if you get caught in it from flying objects and lightning. Storm rating and damage is determined after the storm is over.
Growing up in Kansas, we all knew our meteorologists by voice. Gary England was the best there ever was. Hands down. Merrill Teller In Wichita was close.
@@allenniggemeyer474 You might be thinking about Dave Freeman. Dave became a legend due to his coverage of the May 4th, 2007 tornado that hit Greensburg, Kansas due to advice he gave on air to kids who were either at home alone or with a babysitter due to their parents being out to dinner and no doubt scared to death. Dave told them that they had to be brave and turn up the volume on the TV or the computer speakers or the radio so they could hear him as they took shelter. Something tells me that the kids who followed Dave's advice during the Greensburg tornado are now parents themselves and use his advice with their own children.
I'm glad you mentioned Bryan Busby. I live in Kansas City and, as a general rule, never watch KMBC 9 (his station), but, if there's a Tornado Watch/Warning in the KC area, Bryan Busby and his team are the only team I watch. Their weather team has a deep bench; Katie Horner (their morning meteorologist, who I acknowledge has caused very-divisive opinions), was the Chief Meteorologist at another KC station for 13 years.
I understand people lost their life in this thing and that’s always tragic but I’m very grateful this didn’t go into a highly populated area. The loss of life would’ve been staggering.
Gary England was made for this. What a loss ! He was on point. The others sounded panicked ( as I would have been ) one place I wouldn't want to be is " in the bear cage " ever !
There have been 9 EF5 in my life time that are not disputed and a total of 12 that are disputed including this one and I am only 15 luckily I haven't had to experience any of those
Storm chaser Dan Robinson narrowly escaped with his life during this tornado. In his footage here on RUclips you can see him running for a ditch because his Toyota Yaris could not cope with the strong headwind and he was not able to turn off traction control. The sad thing is he simply does not have the money to run a larger and more powerful vehicle. These guys make insane amounts of mileage during storm season and many can simply not afford burning gallons of gas each day.
Yes, this was the tornado which unfortunately took the lives of the Twistex team. Here is an extensive video showing where all of the storm chasers, and research scientists were located minute-by-minute during the El Reno tornado. I highly recommend checking it out. ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
Most people who lived in OKC during this event will also remember the incredible flooding that happened in the OKC metro area. This storm eventually moved into the OKC metro, and proceeded to dump nearly 11 inches of rain. The storm became semi-stationary, and backfilled over the metro, and rained for nearly 6 hours. MANY people lost their cars as they got caught unawares while trying to outrun the storm, as Mike Morgan of KFOR channel 4 told people to get out of the way of the tornado. He said, essentially, to "get in your car and go south if you are in the path of the storm" as you would not likely survive this tornado if caught above ground. I-35 South through the city became logjammed with cars, and had the tornado not lifted before entering the west side of OKC, MANY hundreds of people could have been killed, while driving or stuck in traffic. Not including the people in the densely populated NW Side. What a day....
Gary is not only very good, but very patient!! That Dave guy was doing more harm than good trying to talk over everyone, like a kid wanting attention. 🤦♂️
Thats why these broadcast are an example of what not to do. The meteorologist should be the one talking except when getting relevant info to warn people. Gary England made it the chaser show and alot of them are attention seeking screaming maniacs. There are chasers who don't scream and just let the storm talk lol Chance Coldiron is an underrated one to me just for that fact
@@millhousemillard2140 Justin Cox and Chance Coldiron did a great job at covering the EF5 tornado that tore through Moore, Oklahoma on May 20, 2013 for Oklahoma City's ABC affiliate KOCO Channel 5. The station's chief meteorologist Damon Lane talked in an episode of a show on The Weather Channel called "Real Time Tornado" that profiled the Moore tornado about how he was juggling two roles that day: chief meteorologist and husband.
The tornado that hit Mulhall was 2.5 miles wide and the El Reno tornado took the title of widest tornado from Mulhall at 2.6 miles in width. The costliest tornado on record is the EF5 tornado that hit Joplin, Missouri on May 22, 2011.
I'm trying to watch footage from different stations/chasers, and am wondering if there is footage from KFOR along the lines of this? I'm interested in seeing how Mike Morgan dealt with his spotter monkeys like Gary did. I've also seen Reed's TVN footage. When I search the footage I found for KFOR seems to start at 6:45pm.
(1:10:43)-(WARNING UPDATE): Tornado Moving around to Oklahoma by Still HUGE Tornado. [Jim Burgan] 2 Years ago "FYI, between 44:00 - and 45:00 in this video (specifically at 44:10) near the intersection of S Radio Rd. and Reuter Rd. (10th Street), Tim and Paul Samaras and Carl Young are killed." They killed 3 People by a HUGE Tornado. 7:00 PM EDT...Tornado Continued on Strong Tornado to 100% House Destroyed. You should cover now! get on the lowest floor, close the outside door, or Stay away from Window. Stay tune to using network, or NOAA Radio media on the Weather Service Information.
They get a bonus of $10 every time they say multiple vortex, wall cloud, violent tornado, RFD, debris ball.... Some were able to retire after this broadcast.
I've never seen the movie but it may have been former KFOR Chopper pilot Jon Welsh covering the Moore Oklahoma tornado on May 20th 2013, 11 days earlier than the El Reno tornado
el reno especially acted more like a hurricane. very strange. also 2013-2015 had very active hurricane seasons. 4 category 4 hurricanes danced around the hawaiian islands in 2015. the pineapple express was so strong, it brought California out if a biblical sized drought and nearly busted oroville dam. it’s all interconnected.
@@Sj430 I think that not many people outside of Oklahoma know about the tornado that hit El Reno on May 24th, 2011 because it occurred just two days after the EF5 tornado that devastated Joplin, Missouri. So the eyes of the world turned to Joplin and focused on the rescue and cleanup efforts.
@@michaellovely6601 I agree. Also the death toll did not help in Joplin. I did not know El Reno had a tornado in 2011 until I was reading a comment on a RUclips video. It just had to happen 2 days after the Joplin tornado. At the time all I heard in the news at that time was what happened to Joplin.
52:22 You know shit has just gotten real when the Doppler radar goes BLACK in the middle of the cell. I don't know whether that was precipitation or a wind speed product that he was looking at, but holy crap I've never seen a radar display look like that.
This thing is the only tornado that was insane enough to have killed storm chasers. It has the 2nd highest recorded wind speeds on earth. And it was the 2nd widest multi vortex tornado ever measured behind the May 3rd Mulhall Tornado. And it only gets a 3? 🤨 What exactly does the Enhanced Fujita Scale do that the old one didn't?
they said they go off damage i cann bs when this storm was a EF-5 for sure the winds alone were really even a EF-6 surprised they dont have a cat 6 yet
@@joeyjohnson942 Overlooked by everyone because no one was out there that night recording it. And no ones hero died there. It is interesting that 2 of the largest tornados on record got less than an EF-5 rating. Size isn't everything. Mulhall got an EF-4 rating. This is from Wiki: A Doppler On Wheels (DOW) mobile radar observed this tornado as it crossed Mulhall. The DOW documented the largest-ever-observed core flow circulation with a distance of 1,600 m (5,200 ft) between peak velocities on either side of the tornado, and a roughly 7 km (4.3 mi) width of peak wind gusts exceeding 43 m/s (96 mph), making the Mulhall tornado the largest tornado ever measured quantitatively.
You post the “mulhall tornado was overlooked by everyone” on every tornado video on youtube. Nobody overlooked it. It was larger but did not have the recorded wind speed that this one had or the may 3 1999 moore tornado had.
@@Deucealive75 Seems that a 300mph tornado could travel over 50 miles of farm country doing little real damage while a 200mph tornado over a major city could cause a tremendous amount of damage. Maybe with modern radar, etc. they need a new scale?
This question probably won't get answered but, why exactly was there SO much traffic at the time the tornado hit? Was it rush hour time? I figure some people were trying to get away from it but, man that was so much traffic.. 🤔
It started around rush hour time AND there were a ton of storm chasers that collected themselves here and then booked it to get away. Check out Carly Anna WX about it as well.
Lord I gotta say if ya don't love an miss Gary England every night an day knowing he was always on watch for us GODBLESS Gary he was definitely one of a kind an also gotta say David Payne has done great an those some big Ol Shoes to fill.
i have a son who lives in okc. The next time anything happens will i be able to see LIVE CHANNEL 9 report like THIS? you had better believe ill be glued to it. someone please respond
CAPE Values were at unheard of levels that day it was like the Grand Finale of 2 weeks of Tornado Outbreaks in North Texas and Oklahoma. The storm Chasers new that but there was to many of them in the same area and got caught in the bears cage as the whole damn thing came down to the ground when they were fooled by smaller vortices early on. Just a dangerous once in a decade storm and the storm chasers do a good job but I hope they learned a lesson from this one
FYI, between 44:00 - and 45:00 in this video (specifically at 44:10) near the intersection of S Radio Rd. and Reuter Rd. (10th Street), Tim and Paul Samaras and Carl Young are killed.
How do you know that for sure?
There is a lot of data on most of the stormchasers that were on this storm as they use GPS tracking along with multiple videos of timestamp data, plus all of the data that the NWS and SPC provided. Gabe Garfield from NWS Norman has a great video explaining this, and also Skip Talbot has what is arguably the best analytical video of any tornado ever. He has overlays, GPS data, radar data as well as multiple videos spliced in. It show chaser locations, distance to circulation, distance to storm center where the storm was - basically everything pertinent to the people involved as well as the storm. Jim Burgan, while being morbid, is 100% correct. It's over an hour, but it's incredibly well put together and the information he has made available is staggering. ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
K.M. RN It’s validated. There are some other videos on RUclips which will provide you with some very detailed information. You may find it particularly interesting. Because all of these chasers have handled video cameras, dashboard cameras, and GPS, an extremely detailed, minute-by-minute timeline analysis of where everyone was located was created. Here is the link to that particular video. I highly recommend checking it out. ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
K.M. RN -> I have studied this event more than any other tornado (with the possible exception of the Palm Sunday 1965 Outbreak) and, while I was not chasing this event, I feel reasonably certain my information is correct. As others have stated, this is one of the most studied event in tornado history, and Skip’s video is a must-see for those interested.
Leo Fender Skip Talbots video is great and you're right, it's possibly the best tornado video ever made. You know he put a lot of time into making it.
R.I.P. TWISTEX R.I.P. Thank you for loading this historical feed.
There are two meteorologists I'd want doing tornado coverage and warning the public - James Spann and Gary England. The absolute best in the business.
Amen! I wish James Spann was my TV meteorologist!
They're both good at what they do. There are also a lot of excellent meteorologists in other markets that do very good jobs as well. St Louis has very good meteorologists that have tracked quite a few large tornadoes some of which have tracked right through the metro and there have been very few fatalities.
You forgot about travis Meier from sister station news on 6 in Tulsa
How about Mike Morgan of KFOR
Mike is alright but he has history of giving very bad advice in these situations. May 3rd especially.
Gary England and Mike Morgan are absolute LEGENDS in the weather community especially in the OKC area.
When Gary England tells you you’re too close, you’re too close. He knew how dangerous and complex El Reno was before so many others did.
Yeah it's pretty incredible to re-watch this and other broadcast and 4 + 2 be as good as he is consistently with reading radar, especially when he sang going to go all over the place, I'm paraphrasing but it's not going to to follow a normal path and to watch it.
Here in Chicago, we have Tom Skilling on WGN. He is very detailed in his reporting and accurate.
you forget mike morgan
28:10
You happen to know approximately when in the video he told the chaser he was too close? I didn't hear it
And Gary most likely saved Val and David.... telling them they weren’t in good locations, and that it might look stationary but it IS MOVING.
28:10
David Payne and Val Castor were a bunch of boneheads.
Will never forget this day. I lived in El Reno the sky was a perfect sunny clear blue sky around 1pm and a couple hours later it went dark outta nowhere. Never seen that much rain and flooding. We went to the shelter at the hospital but man looking back, the actual town of El Reno dodged a major bullet. If the Tornado was a few miles north we would’ve been wiped out.
I live just a little NE of Duncan out in the boonies and this system started out right by us. Tornado wasn’t quite on the ground yet but you couldn’t tell, it shook the whole house. My son was only a month old at the time and I’ve never been more scared in my life
That’s what makes El Reno so extra terrifying to me. As awful as it was (and it was terrible) it could have somehow been conceivably worse. So tragic.
The Sky absolutely fascinates me! I get to see the clouds over the Front Range, and watch the NEXRAD Radar returns to see what it's gonna do. It seems at times the storms that start up on the Front Range over Denver are the genesis of the severe storms in Tornado Alley. 🌪🌩🌧🌬🌫
28:25 "It's not moving!!!"
Right. We here in RUclips have a saying for that. If you're looking at a tornado and it's not moving, you're in the path and it's coming straight at you.
Lesson learned: Don't argue with the meteorologist who has access to a real-time Doppler radar.
Yeah I almost got mesmerize at a tornado(it wasn't that strong EF-1) and all of a sudden it look like it didn't move but my friend from Oklahoma (I was in Florida) if it doesn't look like it's moving its coming towards my ass so I snap out of it and went to a Winn-Dixie.
28:29 Man, Gary was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT with that call.
It's unbelievable to realize that the width of the tornado near El Reno was 2.6 miles wide. This KWTV weather team did an outstanding job keeping citizens updated.
The way Gary England controls the storm chasers is incredible. They try to yell over each other and get the view on it first, and Gary is trying to get calm, clear, and concise information to the public.
reed timmer was more calm than david payne.
and that's saying quite a bit.
TIMMER had the hood of his vehicle ripped off by the storm. His crew also were the first ones tothe Weather Cannels SUv after it got rolled. Channel 4storm chase team nearly had a really bad day. EMILY Sutton one of there other storm spotters, had her back windows blown out at the same time the storm was crossing Hwy 81 there,
@@sukhastings4200 Powerline ripped it off lol
@@dude3278I thought reeds voice broke it
@@sukhastings4200 That powerline ripping Dominator's hood off most likely saved Reed's life, bc he was on same route where Twistex was, slightly behind them, actually.
28:02 Gary England called it. He could see on radar what so many seasoned storm chasers couldn’t read on the ground. That is because this tornado was so huge and traveled in a very irregular path.
Englund was incorporating the chasers’ video feed into his interpretation of the radar, which is often a bit slower than real time. He is a Legend in Tornado Alley.
The more panicky the one guy gets at 12:00, the more calm Gary gets. Gary is like, "Yup, it's right there. I've seen monsters like this before." Pretty calm and collected, focused, all the good stuff...
Well considering how many tornadoes Gary England had covered for KWTV Channel 9 this was nothing new for him.
To be fair, the guy speaking is out in the middle of the storm in a car! Gary is in a studio.
I stumbled upon this this video. Born and raised, Oklahoman here. I can't tell you the respect Oklahoma has for Gary England. He is hands down the best and we were so lucky to have him. I believe this was his last year at News 9. This coverage takes my breath away and tears are just streaming down my face. The anniversary of this tornado 🌪 is today.
RIP TIM, PAUL, & CARL
A moment of silence for Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras, Carl Young, and Richard Henderson; the 4 seasoned storm chasers among the 8 deaths in this tornadic tragedy
May they chase fairer winds in the life beyond
Nature wins all the time. Tragic miscalculation.
@@markponn544 a sad truth we all must face
This massive storm ended the lives of many storm chasers. It also ended my favorite show "Tornado Chasers" on Discovery. RIP 🙏
@@djxxxplicit I watched that same show and I was so sad 😭
@@TheNekoMimiGamer unfortunately there may never be another show like it again as it's too risky and causes regular folks to go out and hunt tornadoes.
I live in Cincinnati, but I love Gary England... You guys in Oklahoma were so fortunate to have him ..
Too bad News 9 is stuck with David Payne that dude is super dramatic and all over the place.
@@Crooked_Wien Sad. But at least you guys have Damon Lane at KOCO Channel 5. In an episode of a show on The Weather Channel called "Tornado Alley: Real Time Tornado" that profiled the Moore, Oklahoma tornado on May 20, 2013; Damon talked about how he was juggling two roles that day: chief meteorologist and husband.
@@michaellovely6601 he’s the only one I can stand to watch now.
@@hookedonreactions7649 I understand. Even though I am from Ohio I would want to watch Mike Morgan at KFOR Channel 4 on days where the weather will be good and Damon Lane at KOCO Channel 5 when severe weather strikes. Though I admit that if I was a college student at the University of Oklahoma in Norman and studying meteorology; I would be torn between either Damon or Mike when it comes time to decide which TV station I should apply for an internship.
@@michaellovely6601 Morgan’s degree is in geosciences, not meteorology, which was an option. I don’t know why he didn’t major in meteorology but he didn’t. There’s a RUMOR that he was kicked out of the meteorology program for cheating but I think it’s more likely that he couldn’t handle the math. Meteorology was originally a sub major for a mathematics degree so it’s pretty intense. No shame in that.
Probably 10 years or so ago we (OKC) were told that there was a potential for pretty significant severe weather later in the week, all local stations do that. They also update as it gets closer. So the day comes and Morgan starts hyping the risk like chicken little, even had a name for it, I don’t remember now what it was, something like ‘tornado battleground’. But none of the other stations were really hyping it at that point. More or less just saying conditions had changed and while an isolated tornado might occur, there was little chance of an outbreak.
I’m not sure it even rained. Some people prefer the chicken little approach but I don’t. He wouldn’t be who I would choose, I’d go with Lane.
Every spring I do nothing but watch tornado coverage videos.
That's what I'm here doing. On may 3rd anniversary, too but I've been doing it all week. Lol
Skip Talbot's Analysis is very good if you haven't seen his work. He has two vid's that are both very informative
Skip Talbot is a pro in Tornado catching?
Skip Talbot is a pretty good storm chaser.
15:20 behind the small funnel is the big, dark one that is difficult to see. 16:33 Val has the better view. The right side of his picture is the big one. Sometimes people don’t know what they are looking at.
There is so little footage of the tornado at full size!
I'm listening to this, not watching, and all I hear is the voice of spring time from my childhood until I left OKC. Gary was the best!
Since the rating was discussed in the description, I feel obliged to comment. We use damage as a proxy indicator of tornado strength because we rarely have accurate measurements of actual windspeeds. To rate a tornado by where it hits (rural or populated) is completely useless, because that is purely chance, and we would just say that it's hitting a rural or populated area. The whole point of the EF Scale is to rate tornadoes by their capability to cause damage (i.e. wind speeds), which is a useful measurement. We KNOW this tornado had winds near 300 mph, so we know it COULD cause EF5 damage, but by chance, it did not. It should have been rated EF5.
The point of the EF scale is to rate tornadoes by the damage they cause, as it is a damage rating indicator. Where the problem is in the rating is coupling an estimated wind speed to the damage. If the Enhanced Fujita scale was simply a damage assessment rating, then the El Reno 2013 tornado is properly rated as an EF3, as that was the damage it left behind. For trying to determine the tornado's strength after the event, this works. Where you run afoul with this system is when you have a mobile Doppler radar system actively measuring winds within the tornado. In this case, mobile Doppler reading has the tornado clocked at around 300mph. Even if those were taken at a higher elevation and winds are typically 40mph less at the surface, this still puts El Reno at around 250-260mph. We know if that tornado hit structures with that wind speed, we wouldn't be discussing the EF rating, as it would clearly be an EF5 tornado.
While it didn't do EF5 damage, to say that El Reno was a tornado that generated an estimated wind speed of 165mph (due to its EF3 rating) is sending the message that this tornado was not at the level of severity as the Moore 2013 tornado that occurred ten days earlier, when, clearly it had the potential.
I believe to resolve this debate is to decouple the estimated wind speed from the Enhanced Fujita scale. Keep the EF rating system strictly damage and don't try to tie a wind speed to it. If that doesn't happen, then this situation will occur again, thus rehashing this debate.
Or, if decoupling isn't the answer, then we should not try to measure the wind speed of a live tornado and be satisfied with damage results.
It is absolutely crazy how Gary is so smart about super cells and 🌪's!!!
Honestly, and I'm not saying this just because of the respect I have for him, but he has a sense and experience only the best of the best have!
This is my 3rd or 4th time watching this video! I know Val Castor very well. Which is to say I've seen so many videos of 🌪's and doc's that he has been a part of since the 1990's!
Early in the storm (when the tornado is in its infancy) Val & David keep giving updates and have so much adrenaline! They keep trying to get closer, and Gary literally has to yell at them and wake them up to the fact that you NEVER know for sure if a 🌪 is moving or not, and can change in a second! Ironically, that is exactly what was so dangerous about this one, it slowed to a crawl, sped up so fast, you couldn't out run it, and this happened in seconds, out of nowhere, and was without a doubt the most unpredictable and deadly tornado of the last 20 years, maybe EVER!
Then later in the video, Gary is trying to name all the counties in it's path, and literally says "this thing could start moving east". Which is exactly what it did! I'm not even halfway through, but wouldn't be surprised if Gary predicted something else, I can't remember for sure.
Anyways, the more I watch this video, the more respect I have for Gary and his expertise when it comes to dangerous storms and 🌪's!!!
P.S. I remember the broadcast of the 2013 EF5 Moore OK 🌪. He was telling the viewers and anyone in it's path, to either be below ground, or get out of the way if at all possible! He actually said that trying to go in a closet or interior bathroom was most likely not survivable! He was 100% right, and that was a day that set a precedent for future weatherman to make sure they tell the public the truth and what is their best chance for survival!
Most unpredictable tornado in history. It changed speeds, directions, width, vortices, wrapped. In addition, it took our best scientist(Tim).
Even caught the Weather Channels crew by surpriseMike Bettes was really lucky. His cameraman was severely injured.
I watched his vehicle get rolled on live TV!
How did Mike bettes make that mistake? You wait for the twister to move out of the way not try to outrun it especially one that size
@@sethcourtemanche5738 maybe theres like most of the tornado is invisible and the condensation is smaller than the actual size so he got trick that the tornado is actually closer then what he thought maybe?
@@sethcourtemanche5738 the El Reno tornado switched directions from East to South. It caught a lot of chasers by surprise. Veteran chasers usually predict where they want to set up to watch the storms at a safe distance. There's an animation of all the chasers on a map scrambling out of the way when the storm changed directions.
I'm a survivor of a EF 4 myself. I have a ton of respect for these men, but Val and all the others talking over each other at times is unbearable. It's still great coverage of a epic storm.
Im a Ef 3 survivor
EF1 survivor here.
Also, NOT an EF5 survivor, because we listened, and GTFO of the area.😌
Jason Sudbury you’re only a “survivor”because you were too dumb to take shelter or leave.
@@nickelodeonstuff1572 First of all; No building is tornado proof, they might be tornado-resistant and really the only buildings that you'd be protected from an EF-4 or EF-5 are Prisons and Large Medical Centers, and even then there's no guarantee you won't be sucked out.
Second of all, we aren't talking about Hurricanes, you don't have time to just simply "leave" if you're in the tornadoes path, often these violent tornadoes are rain wrapped making them almost invisible until they're right on top of you, not to mention in the Deep South they can travel as fast as a mile per minute and unlike your vehicle they are subject to the dozens of hazards when driving in a severe storm such as low visibility, other vehicles on the road, sharp turns, blocked roads, etc.
That's honestly a pretty ignorant thing to say, I highly doubt you've ever been in a significant tornado event.
Val Castor said about 2 years ago him and his wife Amy no longer get closer than a mile,farther away for larger ones
Gary England and James Spann are the best in their field.
Gary England appeared on Twister when an F5 hit Jo's house at the beginning. That was real footage of a tornado warning.
@@DemonCipher13 that movie at the beggining took place in 1969 which I don't believe there was f ratings in 1969
@@corysartin4558 There wasn't an F-Scale until two years later.
@@generalmoonstone Well Twister has so many mistakes in it.
@@jaggass This is true.
@@jaggass Eh. It's a Jan DeBont film. Just grab your popcorn and check your brain at the door. (Same goes for his SPEED films., although Cruise Control is basically unwatchable.
It's funny how Gary has to be almost like a babysitter or kindergarten teacher sometimes.
Well because people weren't taking this thing seriously. Driving away from the tornado does not count as taking precautions.
@@Copper20 I meant regarding the spotters and people talking.
Well, you never know how some people will react when they’re scared.
If you live in California, you look at the forecast to decide whether to bring an umbrella or not. In Oklahoma, you look at the forecast to see if you might die.
Hard to believe it’s been 10 years since we lost Tim samaras
Someone should have tranquilized David. "Gary, Gary, Gary... GAAAARRRRYYYYY"
I have to point out again how Gary tells Val & David they are too close to tornado! It is ironic because it ended up killing 3 famous storm chasers, including Tim Samaras who was known for being extremely cautious and safe. That is just how dangerous this tornado was.
Thank you Gary,
You are sorely missed sir.
"It's on the ground". Repeat 150 times.
I do not really see a need to talk to the people in the field when there is a helicopter with GPS out there. They know where the tornado is located... there is no need to talk to the storm chasers.
@@VideOH Whenever there are severe storms like this that can cause tornadoes, I personally like hearing there point of view from where they are, but they do over dramatize it sometimes especially David Payne.
@@jakob... I don't think you can over-dramatize a mile-wide, 200+ MPH wind storm capable of annihilating just about everything it comes in contact with.
@@VideOH there is absolutely a need to talkin to chasers in the field. Electronics like gps etc. can fail.
@@VideOH GPs systems are full proof never fully trust GPS or tech
I remember when the El-Reno tornado happened, it was the last day of sixth-grade year (for me) and my dad picked me up and we went home. But I remember when I got home my mother, father, and me were like shocked and had our eyes glued to the tv. Rewatching this does somewhat shock me, but not like back then when it was like “oh shit, a mega-twister”
We don’t get anything like this in Illinois. I felt extremely concerned for everyone because Moore wasn’t too long before El Reno. I was hoping Moore would’ve been spared this day.
@@FoodMan2001 you forget about the Hillcrest/Fairdale tornado that spun up near Ashton several years back. Was April 9th 2015 I think. An EF4 at its peak that spun up roughly around Ashton Illinois, just narrowly missed the city of Rochelle just clipping the edge of it, destroyed Hillcrest, destroyed Fairdale.
@@FoodMan2001 rochelle illinois being practically an ef5:
@@FoodMan2001 As others have said, we do get big tornadoes in Illinois too, but not as often as Oklahoma. Look up the tri-state tornado, Roanoke 2004 and Plainfield 1990 too.
It's almost like listening to a bunch of kids trying to tell daddy what they found.
Bahahaha, EXACTLY, that is it, thanks. I found most of them good though, just that David Payne. He is a payne in the arse, far as I can tell. :D
Yes I couldn't agree more
"dad! dad! we found something!"
"what is it?"
*shows him the tornado*
"...dude, that's a *tornado."*
I remember a video from a storm chaser looking out the back of their car as they raced away from the tornado and at some point they'll pass Tim's white Chevy Cobalt. They claim it was last confirmed sighting of the trio before their deaths.
I saw that, but I haven't been able to find it again. IIRC a camera pointed toward the back window showed their headlights behind them; when they looked back a few moments later the headlights were gone. The whole sequence is only 5-10 seconds if that long.
Update: It's in the "What We Learned from the El Reno Tornado." I think it's the same video that VideOH has linked.
Zoomer30 It was a National Geographic documentary on this tornado.
The following video has extensive detail showing where all of the storm chasers, and research scientists were located minute-by-minute during the El Reno tornado. ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
goomba1982 huh? In his footage you can see them disappearing off the road. It was too far away to see the actual vehicle but you can see the headlights
They made a mistake by running a damn cobalt storm chasing. They got into that red clay and got into a bad spot. They didn’t do anything wrong...but damn you have to have 4 all terrain tires spinning with weight to get thru those roads in OK. Loved Tim and Paul and I hate that happened.
Just met Gary today. Good man
Did he retire?
I lived in mustang when this happened and yes it was as terrifying as it seems!
Everytime I watched videos of the Reno Tornado. I keep wondering did it not occur to all of them they were actually looking at the Tornado the entire time. Not a Singular Slim Funnel to put it but a Massive WEDGE Monster. Like a land version of a Hurricane.
You can't see Hurricanes in a simple perspective unless from Space, but you can see an entire length of sky wall from one to the other. THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AT RENO! All those little funnels they thought were just part of it's outer wall vortex.
if the tornado looks "stationary", that means it's coming right at you
Not in this one. The tornado actually was stationary and picked up its intensity and made the hard left turn.
@@michaelgonsalves1800 yeah, I actually did some research on the path of this one and you're right
allow me to correct myself, if the tornado looks stationary, it USUALLY means it's coming towards you
but not always, thanks for pointing that out
Or it is just stationary? Ever think of that?
Untrue. It could be going _away_ from you, too.
Massive Weather Nerd better to be safe than sorry
This was the day Gary England cemented his legacy as a legend and Mike Morgan’s as a clown. England got this correct from the beginning, he correctly agreed almost immediately with his chasers that the entire wall cloud was on the ground, then he correctly advised people to flee north, into the large hail, but out of the path of the tornado.
Except Mike Morgan’s coverage of this event was better. You can’t understand a damn thing here with these idiots talking over each other. Yes I agree he made a big mistake telling everyone to leave but since channel 9 made David Payne the chief meteorologist I can’t stand them
@@ItsLilRobs this is about that day, not the current crew. Also Payne’s mentor was Morgan so guess where he learned how to be annoying
Morgan telling local residents to get into there cars and flee south was dumb. He should know better. If that twister had paralled i40it would have thron hundreds of vehicles the death toll could have been far worse.
@BlackCats Matter "you have to be below ground, an interior room aint gonna cut it"
Gary England
May 3rd, 1999
Multiple times
This was a jumbled mess. If you weren't a lifelong tornado alley resident, like me, you would have been confused as shit and thought it was more about them thrill seeking than them disseminating information. This is a joke
295 mph is an F-5/EF-5 on both the original and enhanced Fujita scale!
My house is right in the area between Yukon @ 6:20 and Bethany @ 6:28 near County Line Rd. Had it not gone south it probably would have hit my house for sure. To this day, it is the only Tornado my family has left the house to get away from. We didn't have a storm shelter then, but we do now.
28:15 is gold lol Gary was not having it with David yelling “GARY GARY GARY” every 20 secs and I think this is where Val somewhat “matured” as a chaser. Gary did everything he could to not lose it.
Working at mustang assisted living that day. We had lots of damage to the building but not the residents or staff. Has caused me PTSD after it all came out.
I'm glad that neither you nor any of your colleagues or the residents of the Mustang Assisted Living Facility were harmed by the tornado that hit El Reno. Just two years earlier firefighters had to pull out residents and staff members of the Greenbriar Nursing Home in Joplin, Missouri following the monstrous EF5 tornado that devastated Joplin on May 22nd, 2011.
"Dueling storm spotters" talking over each other do more harm than good...
I was wishing there was a way to just cut their audio. Like competing children trying to get the attention of their parent. FFS....CALM DOWN!!! ACT like you've been there before...
EXACTLY, super irritating
They did cut their audio of multiple times lol - I remember watching it on air and thinking this is BAD and they're going to start freaking out, which they did lol - to which u told them to not report it unless they saw something and that he knew it was on the ground LoL
Ignoring the yelling though, I've been stuck with only AM FM radio when communication was lost and always went between multiple channels so I didn't get nailed by the tornado or hail and they do make a difference and help, even if they are freaking me out, especially if you're kind of used to seeing all these people's lives ruined a year after year, going to help clean up and so on, it really of sucks actually... the only point of this comment originally was just to say did Gary and the people on the others, do tell them to be quiet sometimes, I didn't mean to have it go dark like that LOL sorry
The strength of it has to be questioned. I read EF-3, but I've also read it was upgraded to a EF-5. I'd say it was a EF-5.
Officially an EF-3 tornado -- Now while some say this is disputed, it is not. The National Weather Service initially had a preliminary rating of EF-5 based on University of Oklahoma Mobile X-Band Doppler Radar measurements, which were in excess of 200 Miles Per Hour (about 400 feet above the surface of the Earth). However, the Enhanced Fujita Scale is a measurement of the *damage* caused by the tornado. Because this tornado remained in primarily rural areas throughout its life cycle, the actual damage was minimal and the structures impacted were not the type of structures you would typically see in a well-built housing development. Due to the minimal nature of the actual damage, the rating of EF-3 was assigned to the El Reno tornado. We can not use measured wind speed estimates from mobile Doppler Radar because there are so few tornadoes with this particular type of data set, and there is no Doppler radar on Earth that can measure wind speed on the surface of the Earth.
Digitalbumpin It’s a top-tier tornado, and is the widest at 2.6mi wide, but not by wind speed. The current record (as of 2019) for “highest measured wind speed by humans near the surface of the Earth” goes to the May 03, 1999 Moore, Oklahoma F-5 Tornado, which had winds measured by a Doppler on Wheels in excess of 300 miles per hour. Approximately 318mph +/- 5mph. It should also be noted that particular wind measurement was not on the surface of the Earth, but about 400 feet aloft.
Initially, it was believed that this particular one did surpass 305 mph. However, it was determined that factoring in all other conditions, it hit around 295+/- 3 mph in the sub-vortex that was believed to have killed Twistex. This same vortex was the one thought to hit the Weather Channel team as well.
Either way, it wasn't as fast as the 99 Moore tornado. That hit 318mph.
Mack Blumenberg that's right. Dr. Josh Wurman recorded that wind speed with his D.O.W. ( Doppler on Wheels ).
For Tim, Paul S, Carl Y and the other stormchaser that passed i believe his name was Richard please correct me if i am wrong. May they all rest in peace.
I remember this storm. As soon as the middle of the storm got to I-35, it turned and went straight south down I-35, almost like it was being controlled somehow.
Luckily the tornadic part had ended but the winds threw up so must dust it was like the dust bowl
@28:25 you tell 'em Gary.
EXACTLY my thought! Do NOT argue with the guy reading the radar!!! That guy annoys me, wish there was mute, lol.
Gary had a sixth sense about tornadoes. He knew when something was really wrong with one. Imagine if Tim Samaras, Paul Samaras, and Carl Young had been in communication with Gary like this. :(
@@tollboothjason I'm sure when this all was said and done, the guy he warned about that realizes he saved his life right there and kept them from a similar fate.
@@infalliblefowl9809 He most certainly did, this chaser, like many, we’re focused on the sub vortices, not knowing the whole cloud was about to drop and expand the tornado 2.5x what the tornado started as
Haha ... These 2 arguing guys crack me up and I do appreciate them being that way because there is NO Doubt they are telling the truth. If these 2 guys and Mr. England can't get people in their safe places, no one will ... Ever. Thank you guys!
A very violent drillbit tornado with 300+ mph at the surface can easily do EF5 damage. It is really hard to say if this tornado for sure if this tornado would have done EF5 damage. Yes, it was extraordinarily wide and seemed violent but that doesn't always mean everything. I saw the damage from the Bassfield/Soso, MS 2.25 mile-wide high-end EF4 tornado and am sure it was capable of EF5 damage likely in rural areas
When he said that the wall cloud keeps touching the ground, the tornado has touched down at 23:10
Val and David need to cut-back on the Red Bulls and Monsters. “GARY!? 🙋🙋🏻♂️Gary!? Hey Gary!? Gary!?!” 😝🤪
Change the scale to represent the strength of the storm, not damage! If this storm had 295mph winds it should've been listed at ef5 not ef3!! Get it right ya'll lives are at stake.
It represents damage because damage is what matters. "Strength" only matters to the looky-lous and adrenaline junkies looking for that "ultimate" storm.
Jeremiah Miller what creates the damage, wind speed right. So it should be based on wind speed too.
We just do not have enough mobile radars to make near-ground level observation possible. There are only a handful of tornadoes that have the data set this particular one has. It will be one of those EF-3* tornadoes in the books, and the asterisk will speak for itself.
Storm rating doesn"t matter . It falls into play after the storm is over . Only thing they have to convey to the public is that it is a very large and destructive tornado that will kill you if you are not underground or get out of the path of the storm . Any storm can kill if you get caught in it from flying objects and lightning. Storm rating and damage is determined after the storm is over.
I suppose that absence of radar or other equipment to objectively measure wind speed is why the EF scale has to be used, unlike hurricanes.
Imagine if this impacted El Reno directly. Thank goodness it somehow went around the city.
Growing up in Kansas, we all knew our meteorologists by voice. Gary England was the best there ever was. Hands down. Merrill Teller In Wichita was close.
How about Dave Duncan (?), who was at KSN and Bryan Busby at KMBC 9, or Gary Amble at KCTV5?
@@allenniggemeyer474 All are right at the top but they had to be. We traveled to Ok City often.
He never even got on screen the whole time
Spann is way better
@@allenniggemeyer474 You might be thinking about Dave Freeman. Dave became a legend due to his coverage of the May 4th, 2007 tornado that hit Greensburg, Kansas due to advice he gave on air to kids who were either at home alone or with a babysitter due to their parents being out to dinner and no doubt scared to death. Dave told them that they had to be brave and turn up the volume on the TV or the computer speakers or the radio so they could hear him as they took shelter. Something tells me that the kids who followed Dave's advice during the Greensburg tornado are now parents themselves and use his advice with their own children.
I'm glad you mentioned Bryan Busby. I live in Kansas City and, as a general rule, never watch KMBC 9 (his station), but, if there's a Tornado Watch/Warning in the KC area, Bryan Busby and his team are the only team I watch. Their weather team has a deep bench; Katie Horner (their morning meteorologist, who I acknowledge has caused very-divisive opinions), was the Chief Meteorologist at another KC station for 13 years.
I understand people lost their life in this thing and that’s always tragic but I’m very grateful this didn’t go into a highly populated area. The loss of life would’ve been staggering.
If Gary England produced a line of RUclipsr plushies, I'd buy a dozen of them and prop them up near my tornado sirens. WE NEED AN ARMY OF GARYS
Of all the tornado videos I've watched, that's the greenest sky I've ever seen.
"GREEN IS MEAN!"
Everytime I've seen a green sky because of a super cell there has always been a funnel and usually a tornado. Big hail for sure too!
Gary England was made for this. What a loss ! He was on point.
The others sounded panicked ( as I would have been ) one place I wouldn't want to be is " in the bear cage " ever !
I've heard the only thing bigger than David's mouth is his lust to have Gary take his stream
@@GravyHucker 😂😂😂
@@GravyHucker He sounds like a Reed Timmer wannabe.
what happened to him? hopefully just retirement
@@apray359 retired
Thank God tornadoes like this one are extremely rare.
There have been 9 EF5 in my life time that are not disputed and a total of 12 that are disputed including this one and I am only 15 luckily I haven't had to experience any of those
Uh...just 10 days earlier, Moore took a direct hit from an EF5. Catastrophic damage.
@@brianschaffer9220 I mean, there are hundreds of tornados ever year, twenty out of three or four hundred is a pretty small amount.
why the hell were you chasing in a Chevy Cobalt that's one thing I never understood??
Their Chevy truck broke down a couple days before! It was a rental.
Storm chaser Dan Robinson narrowly escaped with his life during this tornado. In his footage here on RUclips you can see him running for a ditch because his Toyota Yaris could not cope with the strong headwind and he was not able to turn off traction control. The sad thing is he simply does not have the money to run a larger and more powerful vehicle. These guys make insane amounts of mileage during storm season and many can simply not afford burning gallons of gas each day.
@@steveb6103 they had that little car for years watch the discovery channel they had a truck and a car for many years
i never said that a year before they were killed and that show storm chasers they were on never got that either
@@P1nkR then they simply shouldnt be chasing if they cant afford everything they put themselfs in dangers and others
I was gonna ask if this was the video of el Reno that took the Strom chaser
Yes, this was the tornado which unfortunately took the lives of the Twistex team. Here is an extensive video showing where all of the storm chasers, and research scientists were located minute-by-minute during the El Reno tornado. I highly recommend checking it out. ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
I'm glad David is now inside doing the weather. Look at my screen gets old.
I love Val and Amy. “Gary!… Gary!…” I love you by default.
That’s a lot of red and pink.
Never saw that kind of radar product before in N.E. Ohio.
46:38 Garth Brooks blvd? Did I hear that correctly?
Garth Brooks is from Yukon Ok. You heard correctly Brooks has even spoken on occasion about several close encounter s with tornadoes
whats strange is there was no tornado damage in the okc metro from these storms
Most people who lived in OKC during this event will also remember the incredible flooding that happened in the OKC metro area. This storm eventually moved into the OKC metro, and proceeded to dump nearly 11 inches of rain. The storm became semi-stationary, and backfilled over the metro, and rained for nearly 6 hours. MANY people lost their cars as they got caught unawares while trying to outrun the storm, as Mike Morgan of KFOR channel 4 told people to get out of the way of the tornado. He said, essentially, to "get in your car and go south if you are in the path of the storm" as you would not likely survive this tornado if caught above ground. I-35 South through the city became logjammed with cars, and had the tornado not lifted before entering the west side of OKC, MANY hundreds of people could have been killed, while driving or stuck in traffic. Not including the people in the densely populated NW Side. What a day....
It was not just Mike Morgan; a bunch of people did this on their own free will disregarding the NWS's orders.
Gary is not only very good, but very patient!! That Dave guy was doing more harm than good trying to talk over everyone, like a kid wanting attention. 🤦♂️
Thats why these broadcast are an example of what not to do. The meteorologist should be the one talking except when getting relevant info to warn people. Gary England made it the chaser show and alot of them are attention seeking screaming maniacs. There are chasers who don't scream and just let the storm talk lol Chance Coldiron is an underrated one to me just for that fact
@@millhousemillard2140 Justin Cox and Chance Coldiron did a great job at covering the EF5 tornado that tore through Moore, Oklahoma on May 20, 2013 for Oklahoma City's ABC affiliate KOCO Channel 5. The station's chief meteorologist Damon Lane talked in an episode of a show on The Weather Channel called "Real Time Tornado" that profiled the Moore tornado about how he was juggling two roles that day: chief meteorologist and husband.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but cyclonic is counter-clockwise, correct? So that would make an anti-cyclonic storm spinning clockwise, right?
In the Northern Hemisphere, yes. It reverses in the Southern Hemisphere.
They need a new producer desperately. You can’t have people talking over each other like that in a situation that is life and death.
i dont understand why the mulhall tornado is overlooked as it was almost twice the size of this
Nobody overlooked it. It was larger but did not have the recorded wind speed that this one had or the may 3 1999 moore tornado had.
The tornado that hit Mulhall was 2.5 miles wide and the El Reno tornado took the title of widest tornado from Mulhall at 2.6 miles in width. The costliest tornado on record is the EF5 tornado that hit Joplin, Missouri on May 22, 2011.
When the meteorologists say "ditch the interior rooms you have to be underground or out of the way!"
You better start taking things real serious.
I'm trying to watch footage from different stations/chasers, and am wondering if there is footage from KFOR along the lines of this? I'm interested in seeing how Mike Morgan dealt with his spotter monkeys like Gary did. I've also seen Reed's TVN footage. When I search the footage I found for KFOR seems to start at 6:45pm.
31:24 Heidi Farrar was spazzing out about the size of the hail at about this point. It was the size of grapefruits. Just an amazing storm.
Her and Dave Demko,her chase partner, picked several hailstones up to 5" in diameter,
I don't blame Heidi Farrar for freaking out about the size of the hailstones. People could have gotten badly injured by grapefruit size hail.
6:00 words were so true
(1:10:43)-(WARNING UPDATE): Tornado Moving around to Oklahoma by Still HUGE Tornado. [Jim Burgan] 2 Years ago "FYI, between 44:00 - and 45:00 in this video (specifically at 44:10) near the intersection of S Radio Rd. and Reuter Rd. (10th Street), Tim and Paul Samaras and Carl Young are killed." They killed 3 People by a HUGE Tornado. 7:00 PM EDT...Tornado Continued on Strong Tornado to 100% House Destroyed. You should cover now! get on the lowest floor, close the outside door, or Stay away from Window. Stay tune to using network, or NOAA Radio media on the Weather Service Information.
They get a bonus of $10 every time they say multiple vortex, wall cloud, violent tornado, RFD, debris ball....
Some were able to retire after this broadcast.
Okay I laughed way too hard at that!
How many tornadoes were there that day?
24:26 -- Gary was right about that!
Was Jim gardner in the movie Into the Storm??
I think his comments during this tornado were towards the end of the movie.
I've never seen the movie but it may have been former KFOR Chopper pilot Jon Welsh covering the Moore Oklahoma tornado on May 20th 2013, 11 days earlier than the El Reno tornado
2 of our worst tornados in Oklahoma history were 11 days apart(May 20th). 20ish miles apart. There's something about that area.
el reno especially acted more like a hurricane. very strange. also 2013-2015 had very active hurricane seasons. 4 category 4 hurricanes danced around the hawaiian islands in 2015. the pineapple express was so strong, it brought California out if a biblical sized drought and nearly busted oroville dam. it’s all interconnected.
Moore had a F5 in 1999 and F4 in 2003. El Reno had a EF5 in 2011.
Yes, it's called being smack dab in the middle of tornado alley.
@@Sj430 I think that not many people outside of Oklahoma know about the tornado that hit El Reno on May 24th, 2011 because it occurred just two days after the EF5 tornado that devastated Joplin, Missouri. So the eyes of the world turned to Joplin and focused on the rescue and cleanup efforts.
@@michaellovely6601 I agree. Also the death toll did not help in Joplin. I did not know El Reno had a tornado in 2011 until I was reading a comment on a RUclips video. It just had to happen 2 days after the Joplin tornado. At the time all I heard in the news at that time was what happened to Joplin.
52:22 You know shit has just gotten real when the Doppler radar goes BLACK in the middle of the cell. I don't know whether that was precipitation or a wind speed product that he was looking at, but holy crap I've never seen a radar display look like that.
I notice in almost all of Gary's coverage he does not like being in the wall. Do you know why?
Probably wants pictures to give you the story.
That weatherman hates those rowdy stormchasers.
Nobody notice there’s a hook in the west side of the storm 3:10 it shows that it’s a EF0
Where does it show its an ef0???
This thing is the only tornado that was insane enough to have killed storm chasers. It has the 2nd highest recorded wind speeds on earth. And it was the 2nd widest multi vortex tornado ever measured behind the May 3rd Mulhall Tornado. And it only gets a 3? 🤨 What exactly does the Enhanced Fujita Scale do that the old one didn't?
mulhall is overlooked by everyone
they said they go off damage i cann bs when this storm was a EF-5 for sure the winds alone were really even a EF-6 surprised they dont have a cat 6 yet
@@joeyjohnson942 Overlooked by everyone because no one was out there that night recording it. And no ones hero died there. It is interesting that 2 of the largest tornados on record got less than an EF-5 rating. Size isn't everything. Mulhall got an EF-4 rating.
This is from Wiki:
A Doppler On Wheels (DOW) mobile radar observed this tornado as it crossed Mulhall. The DOW documented the largest-ever-observed core flow circulation with a distance of 1,600 m (5,200 ft) between peak velocities on either side of the tornado, and a roughly 7 km (4.3 mi) width of peak wind gusts exceeding 43 m/s (96 mph), making the Mulhall tornado the largest tornado ever measured quantitatively.
You post the “mulhall tornado was overlooked by everyone” on every tornado video on youtube. Nobody overlooked it. It was larger but did not have the recorded wind speed that this one had or the may 3 1999 moore tornado had.
@@Deucealive75 Seems that a 300mph tornado could travel over 50 miles of farm country doing little real damage while a 200mph tornado over a major city could cause a tremendous amount of damage. Maybe with modern radar, etc. they need a new scale?
This question probably won't get answered but, why exactly was there SO much traffic at the time the tornado hit? Was it rush hour time? I figure some people were trying to get away from it but, man that was so much traffic.. 🤔
It started around rush hour time AND there were a ton of storm chasers that collected themselves here and then booked it to get away. Check out Carly Anna WX about it as well.
How far away from the tornado was the helicopter?
Joe Schoe A few miles
I think I recall the pilot saying any closer, and the suction started pulling them in, and he even had to fight where he was.
Lord I gotta say if ya don't love an miss Gary England every night an day knowing he was always on watch for us GODBLESS Gary he was definitely one of a kind an also gotta say David Payne has done great an those some big Ol Shoes to fill.
Lose the screamer, he is a danger more than a help
That screamer has forgotten more about weather than most people will ever learn.
RIP Twistex team
i have a son who lives in okc. The next time anything happens will i be able to see LIVE CHANNEL 9 report like THIS? you had better believe ill be glued to it. someone please respond
Yes! News 9 has an app and website you can use to watch live coverage. KOCO 5, and News Channel 4 also do the same.
Why did they take this down?
At time 1:02:39 , when he says they have an accident with injuried and looking for missing people... I bet they are talking about the Twistex team. 😮
in retrospect, the broadcaster was absolutely right in insisitng people move north. no doubt saved lives that day
CAPE Values were at unheard of levels that day it was like the Grand Finale of 2 weeks of Tornado Outbreaks in North Texas and Oklahoma. The storm Chasers new that but there was to many of them in the same area and got caught in the bears cage as the whole damn thing came down to the ground when they were fooled by smaller vortices early on. Just a dangerous once in a decade storm and the storm chasers do a good job but I hope they learned a lesson from this one
Do you know the cape values that day? I wonder how they compare to april 27 2011
@@SEngland1985 I’ve read that it was around 5000-5500. Shear was double of what was needed.
@@nolancain8792 what the heck are those cape values????
@@herisuryadi6885 it means there was significant energy available for anything to form.